WEBVTT 00:00:01.520 --> 00:00:03.720 welcome to tonight's meeting of the Port 00:00:03.799 --> 00:00:06.000 Phillip City Council the City of Port 00:00:06.080 --> 00:00:08.080 Phillip respectfully 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:09.679 acknowledges the traditional owners of 00:00:09.759 --> 00:00:11.279 this land the people of the Kulin 00:00:11.359 --> 00:00:13.359 Nations we pay respects to their elders 00:00:13.439 --> 00:00:15.839 past present and emerging we acknowledge 00:00:15.919 --> 00:00:17.399 and uphold their continued relationship 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:18.600 to this land 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:20.440 this meeting is being conducted in a 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:22.960 hybrid style in stream via council's 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:25.719 webcast page and Facebook live streams 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:27.120 and recordings of council meetings are 00:00:27.199 --> 00:00:28.839 copyrighted and cannot be altered 00:00:28.920 --> 00:00:31.440 reproduced or republished without the 00:00:31.519 --> 00:00:33.759 permission of council 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:35.119 if we experience any technical 00:00:35.200 --> 00:00:36.759 difficulties this evening we will 00:00:36.840 --> 00:00:38.479 adjourn the meeting for a short time to 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:39.960 resolve the issue 00:00:40.039 --> 00:00:41.920 our remind attendees that any member of 00:00:42.000 --> 00:00:43.439 the public addressing council must 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:45.359 extend due courtesy and respect to 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:47.640 council and the processes under which it 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:49.840 operates and must take direction from 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:52.200 the chair whenever called on to do so 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:54.520 speakers must remain respectful and 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:56.119 statements or questions must not be 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:58.560 defamatory offensive or objectionable 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:00.799 aimed at embarrassing a councilor or a 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.119 member of council staff will relate to a 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:05.319 matter outside the powers of council I 00:01:05.400 --> 00:01:07.000 note that our CEO Chris Carroll is 00:01:07.079 --> 00:01:09.480 unwell and unable to attend 00:01:09.560 --> 00:01:12.000 tonight's meeting Brian Tee General 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:13.719 Manager of City Growth and Development 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:15.879 will be the presiding officer 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:18.879 for tonight's meeting thank you 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:21.480 the first item is to 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:24.560 um the request by request to attend by 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:26.400 electronic means I've been advised by 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:28.000 the CEO that we have received no 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:29.760 requests to attend electronically for 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:31.680 tonight's meeting we'll move on to 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:33.040 apologies 00:01:33.120 --> 00:01:35.079 councilor Clarke is not in attendance at 00:01:35.159 --> 00:01:37.079 tonight's meeting and has requested a 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:39.120 leave of absence from the 28th of July 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:43.439 to the 28th of August 2023. councilors I 00:01:43.519 --> 00:01:45.840 now seek a mover for the motion that 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:47.840 Council grants a leave of absence for 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:50.480 councilor Clark from Friday the 28th of 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:53.439 July to Monday the 28th of August 2023. 00:01:53.519 --> 00:01:55.680 councilor Sirkopv councilor 00:01:55.760 --> 00:01:58.519 Martin to second 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:01.359 all right now that to the vote all those 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:02.640 in favour 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:06.120 that's carried unanimously thank you 00:02:06.200 --> 00:02:08.280 I'll also just advise everybody that 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:10.240 councilor Pearl is running late so he 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:14.599 will be joining us later on but not yet 00:02:14.680 --> 00:02:17.319 on to minutes of previous meetings 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:19.639 councilors in the minutes of the council 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:21.840 meeting held on the 19th of July 2023 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:24.159 have been circulated are there any 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:27.919 questions regarding these minutes 00:02:34.280 --> 00:02:36.159 thank you 00:02:36.240 --> 00:02:37.800 I'll put that to the vote all those in 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:38.680 favour 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:42.199 it's carried unanimously thank you 00:02:43.080 --> 00:02:45.639 on to conflict of interest 00:02:45.719 --> 00:02:47.680 does anyone have a conflict of interest 00:02:47.759 --> 00:02:49.719 in a matter being discussed at tonight's 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:51.280 meeting 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:53.319 I see none 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:55.280 we'll move on I'm going to read a 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:56.919 statement 00:02:57.000 --> 00:02:59.159 so before we continue the agenda I would 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:00.759 like to take this opportunity to read a 00:03:00.840 --> 00:03:02.719 statement on behalf of council 00:03:02.800 --> 00:03:05.000 Council wishes to convey its heartfelt 00:03:05.080 --> 00:03:06.639 congratulations to the Port Melbourne 00:03:06.719 --> 00:03:08.719 Football Club for their Premiership in 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:12.159 the 2023 VFLW Grand Final on Sunday 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:15.039 against Collingwood Football Club 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:17.520 after competitive finals campaign with 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:19.919 an exceptionally close semi-final this 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:22.240 is a great achievement for the Club Port 00:03:22.319 --> 00:03:23.879 Phillip community and women in sport 00:03:23.960 --> 00:03:25.439 more broadly 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:27.360 success coming so early in the team's 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:29.080 inception is a testament to the work the 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:30.719 club and the players have invested to 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:32.159 gain this result 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:33.759 we look forward to continuing our 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:34.919 relationship with the Port Melbourne 00:03:35.000 --> 00:03:37.479 Football Club ahead of the 2024 season 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:40.199 this success will assist in supporting 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:42.280 participation in partnership with the 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:44.439 local football clubs particularly junior 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:46.800 girls beginning their football careers 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:49.120 we hope you enjoy the celebration that 00:03:49.199 --> 00:03:51.719 you are hopefully still having and wish 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:52.840 you all the best for the remainder of 00:03:52.919 --> 00:03:55.240 the VFL season and future campaigns 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:57.719 ? 00:03:57.800 --> 00:03:59.319 now we'll move on to public question 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:01.840 time and submissions 00:04:01.919 --> 00:04:04.360 under council's governance rules public 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:07.000 questions can only be asked about items 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:09.280 not on the agenda therefore if you're 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:11.000 speaking to an item on the agenda 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:13.360 tonight please note I will not refer 00:04:13.439 --> 00:04:15.479 these to the questions to an officer for 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:17.759 response however a counselor may wish to 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:19.439 take up the question on your 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:23.399 behalf when the item is considered 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:28.560 so we have one speaker who's joining us 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:30.959 no speakers virtually sorry 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:32.680 everyone's in the room it's been a 00:04:32.759 --> 00:04:34.160 change 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:36.800 so we don't have to tell how to work 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:39.519 the web page 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:41.319 so I'll now call upon people who are in 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:42.959 the room the microphone should already 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:44.680 be on do you see the light okay thank 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:46.240 you it's on 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:48.279 when I call your name please come up say 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:50.160 your name your suburb and you'll be 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:52.000 given three minutes to speak 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:54.000 so I first call upon Claire Mirror 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:56.240 speaking to item 10.2 options for 00:04:56.319 --> 00:04:58.319 regulation and management of short stay 00:04:58.399 --> 00:05:02.759 accommodation hi Claire hi okay 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:04.560 thank you 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:07.120 I'm talking about short-term lets this 00:05:07.199 --> 00:05:09.639 evening I've been a super host for 00:05:09.720 --> 00:05:11.319 almost 10 years sorry real quick name 00:05:11.399 --> 00:05:13.839 and suburb Claire Mayor St Kilda thank 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:15.279 you apologies 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:16.959 um I've been a super host for almost 10 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:19.560 years meaning I'm a five-star host I 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:21.399 offer family friendly accommodation to 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:24.000 guests from all walks of life I provided 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:25.480 a roof over the head of hundreds of 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:27.839 families who were visiting St Kilda for 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:28.879 appointments at the Royal Children's 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:31.319 Hospital attending football matches 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:33.839 shows at the Palais Pride St Kilda 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:36.519 Festival triathlons I house medical 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:38.040 staff during covert for those who 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:40.000 couldn't make it home and I'm also 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:41.279 emergency accommodation for those 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:44.279 affected by floods and fires I'm exactly 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:46.600 who most hosts are just someone with an 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:48.279 investment property who's been scorned 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:50.439 by the permanent rental system 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:52.879 I've never left and I'll never list it 00:05:52.959 --> 00:05:55.040 permanently again with non-australia 00:05:55.120 --> 00:05:56.759 with a non-australian husband and a 00:05:56.839 --> 00:05:58.439 daughter the flexibility this offers me 00:05:58.519 --> 00:06:00.040 ensures our overseas family has 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:01.959 somewhere to stay for long periods when 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:03.759 we simply don't have the room to 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:06.160 accommodate them in our own home I've 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:08.439 hosted families calling Australia their 00:06:08.519 --> 00:06:09.600 home 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:11.399 and I'm proud that all eventually 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:14.079 settled in Bayside ironically I had a 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:16.319 guest leave a week early in December 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:18.160 last year because of a permanent renter 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:20.279 across the road partying all weekend and 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:22.959 police not bothering to show up Airbnb 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:25.680 with Airbnb you can evict unruly people 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:28.360 within 24 hours if they're causing a 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:30.319 problem to your neighbors in 10 years 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:31.839 I've had one complaint from a neighbor 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:33.319 in my apartment block and it was a 00:06:33.399 --> 00:06:34.879 subtle nudge because the two boys with 00:06:34.959 --> 00:06:36.600 terrible jet lag were jumping off the 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:38.079 the bunk beds 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:40.240 the simple fact is short-term rentals 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:41.800 aren't the problem the human behavior 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:43.360 and the lack of respect of anyone's 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:45.839 right to a quiet living is the issue and 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:47.319 you'll get that whether you live next 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:49.720 door to a full-time renter an owner and 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:51.319 I'm sure you're aware of some of the 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:54.759 issues that property owners were faced 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:56.279 with by housing authorities who didn't 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:59.079 think twice about putting people with 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:01.600 drug addictions drug dealing and and 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:04.480 terrible mental health issues putting 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:06.319 others at dangers it happens everywhere 00:07:06.399 --> 00:07:09.279 I commend the report pulled together and 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:11.720 point out that 153 complaints over seven 00:07:11.800 --> 00:07:13.680 years is minimal and even more confusing 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:17.040 that 44 came in one go uh coincidentally 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:18.600 after it was raised in a council meeting 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:20.879 a couple of months ago even more 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:23.279 worrying is that many were Anonymous so 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:25.120 as a data geek myself I'm afraid I'm 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:25.959 going to have to question The 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:28.360 credibility of some of the information 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:30.120 the list of complaints which is noise 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:32.160 antisocial Behavior Ben's left out 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:33.600 tossing cigarettes New Year's Eve 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:36.120 parties excessively loud balconies have 00:07:36.199 --> 00:07:38.560 you heard the abandoned covert dogs that 00:07:38.639 --> 00:07:40.839 are barking daily around sync Kilda it's 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:42.879 it's actually quite sad 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:44.439 um it's our neighborhood every day of 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:45.839 the week no matter whether it's a 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:48.120 short-term rental or long term my 00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:49.959 request is that Council please not weigh 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:52.040 in into getting involved in short-term 00:07:52.120 --> 00:07:54.120 rentals at all I want my rubbish 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:56.000 collected on time I want trees planted 00:07:56.079 --> 00:07:58.120 and maintained I want Gray Street foot 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:00.759 bath footpath fixed and leveled I'd like 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:02.439 better Lighting in the dark alleys 00:08:02.519 --> 00:08:04.480 that's what I'd like from my Council and 00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:05.800 not getting involved in something that 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:07.360 affects less than one percent of the 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:09.879 city of Port Phillip by all means let 00:08:09.959 --> 00:08:12.160 stls be regulated but leave it to the 00:08:12.240 --> 00:08:15.279 state for Conformity if Council Wayne 00:08:15.360 --> 00:08:17.199 and we start paying more than the eye 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:18.839 watering rates we already Fork out 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:20.399 someone else something else in the 00:08:20.480 --> 00:08:22.160 community will have to give I've got one 00:08:22.240 --> 00:08:24.319 more line okay um if Council make it 00:08:24.399 --> 00:08:26.519 difficult or costly for short-term 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:28.800 rentals I'd like people to think about 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:31.439 my neighbor who simply rents out a room 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:33.320 to Young students traveling to Australia 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:35.679 for some extra needed cash after being 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:37.879 widowed they're basically the 00:08:37.960 --> 00:08:39.960 demographic of some of our short-term 00:08:40.039 --> 00:08:43.960 rental people thank you very much Claire 00:08:44.039 --> 00:08:46.360 I call upon Ray Hansen speaking to item 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:48.799 10.2 options for regulation and 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:50.879 management of short stay accommodation 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:53.039 hi Roy hi there 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:57.279 Roy Hansen I live in St Kilda as well 00:08:57.360 --> 00:08:59.759 so I'm talking to the report 00:08:59.840 --> 00:09:01.200 um unfortunately from a marketing 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:04.080 research perspective the report on its 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:06.159 status very flawed and does not give it 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:09.200 a correct um picture of the situation 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:12.200 my main concern with the data used 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:14.639 is the weather of the Council of Sir can 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:17.759 operate a total number of 744 short-term 00:09:17.840 --> 00:09:19.360 recommendations 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:21.919 using real data from inside Airbnb and 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:26.960 airdna you can count 2692 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:30.159 listings as of yesterday and that's for 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:32.799 Airbnb only not taking into booking.com 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:36.080 and other platforms 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:38.919 this conservative number totals of four 00:09:39.000 --> 00:09:40.679 percent of the housing stock in city of 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:42.919 Port Phillips four times greater than 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:45.399 indicated in the report 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:47.440 these numbers completely skewed a 00:09:47.519 --> 00:09:48.919 potential cost to the council in the 00:09:49.000 --> 00:09:50.559 summary 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:52.480 based on the actual number of listings 00:09:52.559 --> 00:09:53.960 Council would turn a million dollar 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:58.240 profit from registration fees alone 00:09:58.320 --> 00:10:01.080 the 50 top Airbnb host in city of 00:10:01.159 --> 00:10:04.600 portfolio controls 543 full-time 00:10:04.679 --> 00:10:06.519 listings between them 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:09.200 that's an average of 10 properties each 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:12.759 so not treating these operators as a 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:16.000 commercial business is just ignorant 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:18.639 my other concern as voice to the CEO at 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:20.240 an early stage is how incredible 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:21.799 difficult it was for anyone to navigate 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:23.799 the website and find out where to Lodge 00:10:23.879 --> 00:10:25.960 to complain 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:29.799 as per local law as 59 short stay 00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:31.480 accommodation is included in the 00:10:31.559 --> 00:10:34.000 definition of commercial property 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:37.440 as a rate payer I am asking for us 59 to 00:10:37.519 --> 00:10:38.679 be used to control short-term 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:40.480 accommodations when it's detrimentally 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:42.399 affect neighborhood amenities and create 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:43.600 nuisance 00:10:43.679 --> 00:10:45.879 this does not contradict on this 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:47.879 cooperation Act 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:49.799 as for benefits to short-stay 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:51.799 accommodations to the community 00:10:51.879 --> 00:10:53.679 the reports takes a very super 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:56.480 superficial approach to it with no data 00:10:56.559 --> 00:10:58.000 to back it up 00:10:58.080 --> 00:10:59.639 to be honest it sounds more like a 00:10:59.720 --> 00:11:02.080 marketing exercise from Airbnb itself 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:03.799 many of the statements seems to be 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:05.679 personal opinions of the council officer 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:06.919 who wrote it 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.879 and again with no data 00:11:09.960 --> 00:11:12.000 these were thrown from speaking about 00:11:12.080 --> 00:11:13.480 Council officers 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:15.639 after highlighting some of the major 00:11:15.720 --> 00:11:17.799 flaws of this reporter suggest that the 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:19.720 report should be reviewed by independent 00:11:19.799 --> 00:11:22.240 professional to provide real figures 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:25.200 any Assumption of or statements must be 00:11:25.279 --> 00:11:26.919 backed up with Data before the options 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:30.120 in the summary is being voted on 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:31.440 thank you 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:33.559 thank you 00:11:34.080 --> 00:11:35.759 all right one more speaker I call upon 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:39.360 Vince Carter speaking title 7.1 joint 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:41.360 letter requesting installation of a gate 00:11:41.440 --> 00:11:44.320 to restrict public access to a lane hi 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:48.519 Vince please take a seat name for it and 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:50.879 I live in Port Melbourne 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:54.799 it's just basically installing a gate to 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:57.639 stop public unwanted public coming here 00:11:57.720 --> 00:12:00.639 and using it as a puppy toilet and I 00:12:00.720 --> 00:12:02.639 mean by using it as number ones and 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:05.240 number twos it also 00:12:05.320 --> 00:12:08.759 people walking in with dogs dogs using 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:12.039 it as a toilet as well now I have my 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:15.360 mother-in-law she's 87 years old 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:17.759 she's been living there for almost 58 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:18.799 years 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:22.240 and the condition of that laneway is 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:24.600 absolutely disgusting after these people 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:27.399 have been through it now she has an 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:29.759 injury at the moment and that's her only 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:30.919 access 00:12:31.000 --> 00:12:34.559 flat axis to get to a taxi to go doctors 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:37.360 to do the shopping so you can't use the 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:38.879 front because the front has two large 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:41.559 steps well we are 00:12:41.639 --> 00:12:44.639 um I asked the council they've given me 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:46.200 um 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:50.759 how guidance in purchasing the land 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:52.840 um I spoke to the neighbors and the cost 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:55.240 is way too high we can't afford it 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:58.320 especially when I had on GST 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:02.360 also the land is not useful to build on 00:13:02.440 --> 00:13:06.759 there's a lot of surfaces the sewer gas 00:13:06.840 --> 00:13:10.200 water it's a dead land we can't build on 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:13.559 it so all we're asking is actually we're 00:13:13.639 --> 00:13:16.960 begging that we get a gate put in 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:21.039 to keep us safe we've been abused we've 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:24.799 been sworn at threatened and it's just 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:25.840 not old 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:28.720 especially for Maria 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:30.799 Thank You Vince thank you thanks for 00:13:30.879 --> 00:13:33.120 your time 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:35.440 oh sorry cancer circoff has a question 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:37.120 for you you can come back and answer 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:38.679 it's good to use the microphones because 00:13:38.759 --> 00:13:40.559 it's being recorded oh sorry so go ahead 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:43.200 oh welcome I'm I'm just wondering how 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:45.600 how do um how many properties would I've 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:46.919 looked at the map 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:48.759 um the area just so how many properties 00:13:48.840 --> 00:13:50.360 would be 00:13:50.440 --> 00:13:53.360 um affected and would require 00:13:53.440 --> 00:13:57.000 sharing uh keys or some kind of um 00:13:57.080 --> 00:13:59.200 there's only three properties there's 00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:01.840 more my property there's a laneway and 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:04.120 my next door neighbors and Maria's 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:06.600 property runs at the end of the long way 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:08.759 she has full access 00:14:08.840 --> 00:14:11.320 right-of-way because she's had that for 00:14:11.399 --> 00:14:13.480 over 8600 years 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:16.440 of actually what's happened is at that 00:14:16.519 --> 00:14:18.679 laneway used to be dirt and a little 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.320 little brick Valley for the water and my 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:25.000 costs my time my effort I've cleaned it 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:26.679 all up I've paid for extra bricks I've 00:14:26.759 --> 00:14:30.000 made a flat for them to use I've 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:32.679 maintained it I've added security lights 00:14:32.759 --> 00:14:34.840 I've added security system 00:14:34.919 --> 00:14:37.240 try and keep these people out 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:39.600 and how frequently do you have 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:42.879 um people ah coming down in slain it 00:14:42.960 --> 00:14:45.159 varies in a week it could be five six 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:50.200 times I've had one last two weeks I've 00:14:50.279 --> 00:14:52.720 had a lady come through a dog off the 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:53.759 lead 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:55.799 those gone up the line my Dennis pieces 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:57.519 I've come out and I've asked to excuse 00:14:57.600 --> 00:14:59.799 me do you mind we use this as a private 00:14:59.879 --> 00:15:01.200 laneway 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:04.360 and because the house went up for sale a 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:06.240 few months back she goes I definitely 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:08.440 know this is not a private laneway so 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:11.440 this now is going to get out there and 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:13.480 more people I've had people just come in 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:16.000 just kids young kids just standing there 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:19.200 playing around while they go up the road 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:21.000 pay for the drugs and stuff like that 00:15:21.080 --> 00:15:24.000 and then they draw on walls and it's 00:15:24.080 --> 00:15:27.679 it's a dangerous language it like likely 00:15:27.759 --> 00:15:30.600 I have a sense of light but that doesn't 00:15:30.679 --> 00:15:32.919 do anything they just come in they steal 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:34.120 our rubbish bins they feel like they're 00:15:34.200 --> 00:15:35.159 rubbish 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:38.159 bins that we're supposed to be using all 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:40.919 I'm asking is I've maintained it for 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:42.639 over 18 years 00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:44.759 and I'm willing to keep maintaining I've 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:48.120 never asked the scent for anyone 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:52.120 we solely purposes is for Maria to use 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:53.360 that 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:56.039 and um yeah so if we had a gate it'll 00:15:56.120 --> 00:15:57.919 stop people coming in unwanted people 00:15:58.000 --> 00:15:59.320 coming in and doing all their business 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:00.600 and doing whatever in that language 00:16:00.679 --> 00:16:02.679 thank you very much just for safety 00:16:02.759 --> 00:16:05.159 thank you thank you 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:07.559 right that is the end of public question 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:09.919 time and submissions so we'll move on to 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:11.559 counselor question time councilors do 00:16:11.639 --> 00:16:13.240 you have any questions in of a general 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:14.919 nature that you'd like to raise right 00:16:15.000 --> 00:16:16.799 now 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:18.759 I see none will keep going on to feeling 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:21.399 schedule councilors we have no items for 00:16:21.480 --> 00:16:24.759 ceiling on tonight's agenda next then is 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:27.600 petitions and Joint letters councilors 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:29.200 we have one joint letter and no 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:32.000 petitions on tonight's agenda 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:34.440 7.1 is joint letter requesting 00:16:34.519 --> 00:16:36.039 installation of a gate to restrict 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:38.200 public access to Lane 00:16:38.279 --> 00:16:39.879 do councilors have any questions of the 00:16:39.960 --> 00:16:41.480 officers in relation in regards to the 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:43.159 item 00:16:43.240 --> 00:16:46.480 is that a question Council Baxter 00:16:46.559 --> 00:16:47.919 thank you 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:50.320 um just with regards to 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:52.000 um listening what the gentleman was 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:53.120 saying before 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:55.919 just uh noting that a proper response 00:16:56.000 --> 00:16:57.399 will be will be given later this is just 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:00.399 to to take on the um petition but other 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:01.480 other 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:04.599 um examples where this sort of treatment 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:07.680 has occurred 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:10.480 um before and if so does that affect 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:12.279 things like adverse possession and stuff 00:17:12.359 --> 00:17:14.720 like that 00:17:16.079 --> 00:17:18.400 oh sorry Lachlan Johnson 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:22.240 at three men so 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:24.519 at the moment the access to the access 00:17:24.599 --> 00:17:26.200 to the laneway is governed under the 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:28.119 road management act it's not possible 00:17:28.200 --> 00:17:31.079 for Council to install a gate and 00:17:31.160 --> 00:17:32.799 restrict access under the road 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:34.839 management act but tonight we're 00:17:34.920 --> 00:17:37.079 receiving the petition and we'll provide 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:38.920 a response in a number of weeks where 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:40.200 we're going to look at other options 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:43.079 that could potentially be available as 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:44.759 the resident has spoken about this 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:46.680 evening there has been some 00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:49.720 correspondence about the purchase of the 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:52.720 of the public roads in other words 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:54.920 discontinuing the road closing the road 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:57.519 having it become Freehold land and then 00:17:57.599 --> 00:18:00.640 being sold that's not a practical it's 00:18:00.720 --> 00:18:02.160 been advisor that's not a practical 00:18:02.240 --> 00:18:04.920 option in this case so officers are 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:06.720 going to consider alternatives 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:09.279 that potentially achieve the same 00:18:09.359 --> 00:18:11.519 outcome in the next few weeks and bring 00:18:11.599 --> 00:18:13.519 something back to council with regards 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:16.680 to other circumstances across the city 00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:18.960 where similar issues have Arisen I have 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:20.640 to take that on notice I'm not I'm not 00:18:20.720 --> 00:18:22.599 sure of any off the top of my head thank 00:18:22.680 --> 00:18:24.279 you do you know the question yeah just 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:28.680 just a follow-up um so uh if if the if a 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:30.519 discontinuance was gone through with we 00:18:30.599 --> 00:18:34.000 could then consider a gate potentially 00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:35.680 it's actually the fact that it's a road 00:18:35.759 --> 00:18:38.559 that is that what you're saying makes it 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:41.640 yeah Lachlan Johnson yeah three mate yes 00:18:41.720 --> 00:18:44.519 so as a road it needs to have free 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:46.240 access so we can't put a gate on the 00:18:46.319 --> 00:18:49.240 road but if the road is discontinued 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:51.400 it's no longer a road so therefore we 00:18:51.480 --> 00:18:52.839 could look at other access controls 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:55.599 around that space and thank you any 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:57.400 other questions tonight 00:18:57.480 --> 00:18:59.200 otherwise we are just voting to receive 00:18:59.279 --> 00:19:01.319 this tonight 00:19:01.400 --> 00:19:03.759 so it will advance uh we will let's see 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:05.240 if no more questions I'll look for a 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:07.480 mover of this item cancer Crawford and a 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:10.119 secondary councilor Martin 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:11.880 Council Crawford object to speak to it 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:14.440 Council Martin would Jack speak to it 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:16.720 very briefly mayor thank you thank you 00:19:16.799 --> 00:19:18.839 so much to the speaker for outlining 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:20.680 those very very serious concerns it 00:19:20.759 --> 00:19:22.680 sounds like a quite unpleasant situation 00:19:22.759 --> 00:19:24.160 for the people surrounding this laneway 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:26.920 thank you to Mr Johnson for outlining 00:19:27.000 --> 00:19:28.359 the difficulties implementing the 00:19:28.440 --> 00:19:30.440 request that's put out in the letter but 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:31.960 I'm hoping I'm sure that our officers 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:34.000 will come back to us very very quickly 00:19:34.079 --> 00:19:35.000 with 00:19:35.079 --> 00:19:37.079 an alternative recommendation perhaps 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:38.400 not the one that 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:39.640 is set out here in the letter but 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:41.079 something that enables us to act quickly 00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:42.839 so that the people surrounding the slave 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:45.079 way can laneway can have a nice peaceful 00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:46.240 existence without the issues that 00:19:46.319 --> 00:19:47.960 they've outlined 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:50.559 um there's a quite unpleasant and I'm 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:51.880 looking forward to us finding a way of 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:53.200 addressing this 00:19:53.279 --> 00:19:55.240 thank you any other councilors want to 00:19:55.319 --> 00:19:56.640 speak to it 00:19:56.720 --> 00:19:58.319 otherwise let's take that to the vote 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:00.400 all those in favour 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:04.400 that's Carrie unanimous thank you 00:20:07.160 --> 00:20:09.160 all right you're welcome to stay or 00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:10.519 you're welcome to leave whatever you 00:20:10.599 --> 00:20:13.839 like since your item is done 00:20:14.079 --> 00:20:15.839 thank you for coming in 00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:17.200 all right councilors we're going to now 00:20:17.279 --> 00:20:20.519 move into the presentation of reports 00:20:20.599 --> 00:20:23.559 the first one is 10.1 Community safety 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:26.799 plan and public space CCTV cameras and 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:28.839 policy report 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:31.440 councilors do we have any questions of 00:20:31.519 --> 00:20:34.759 the officers in relation to the report 00:20:39.920 --> 00:20:41.519 right 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:43.079 then I'll look for someone who wants to 00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:46.160 move this or something else 00:20:46.680 --> 00:20:49.680 anybody want to move this one 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:52.240 I'll move it I would like to Second it 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:54.640 only write my own name 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:57.599 sorry counselor Bond a second 00:20:57.680 --> 00:20:59.920 okay all Reserve Council Obama would 00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:01.480 like to speak to it 00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:03.440 any other councilors want to speak to 00:21:03.519 --> 00:21:04.960 the item 00:21:05.039 --> 00:21:07.960 kill the circle 00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:11.079 oh thank you me 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:12.720 um yeah I think that Council needs to 00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:14.559 continue to keep up with the latest 00:21:14.640 --> 00:21:16.759 strategy strategies 00:21:16.839 --> 00:21:18.960 um so that we can deliver safer spaces 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:20.200 for our community 00:21:20.279 --> 00:21:22.920 and also for visitors to our city and at 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:25.440 the same time deter and prevent criminal 00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:27.519 behavior on our high streets 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:30.079 although this is not an easy job this 00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:32.519 comes down to managing risks with 00:21:32.599 --> 00:21:34.920 Partners such as the Victoria police 00:21:35.000 --> 00:21:36.200 force 00:21:36.279 --> 00:21:38.519 maintenance and upgrades with the latest 00:21:38.599 --> 00:21:41.519 Technologies of council's cpdtv 00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:44.440 infrastructure is just one of the uh one 00:21:44.519 --> 00:21:46.519 of those mechanisms and which go hand in 00:21:46.599 --> 00:21:48.319 hand with a local 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:50.640 Council laws which have just been 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:53.880 implemented uh on the on the new the 00:21:53.960 --> 00:21:55.920 revised laws on the 1st of August of 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:58.720 this year over the past year two years 00:21:58.799 --> 00:22:01.319 the expectations of safer streets has 00:22:01.400 --> 00:22:03.839 been demonstrated by our residents at 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:05.759 several Community safety meetings in the 00:22:05.839 --> 00:22:08.440 same Kilda town hall and just recently 00:22:08.519 --> 00:22:11.440 we had a large panel of Victorian police 00:22:11.519 --> 00:22:14.920 which contained which was a panel of 00:22:15.000 --> 00:22:17.559 senior police and staff speaking to our 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:21.400 residents at a community safety meeting 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:23.799 I'm aware that our local police are 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:25.880 supportive of upgrades to the current 00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:30.400 CCTV upgrades to this infrastructure is 00:22:30.480 --> 00:22:32.799 is one way to assist police to 00:22:32.880 --> 00:22:34.920 investigate crime and deal with the 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:39.160 latest crime Trend the crime Trend and 00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:42.960 statistics which show for June 2020 for 00:22:43.039 --> 00:22:46.680 June 2023 that cop is unfortunately 00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:49.599 close to double a Victorian rate 00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:54.400 of 54 344 per 100 000 of population 00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:58.240 which includes a 7.7 increase in the 00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:00.759 last quarter so I'm supportive of this 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:03.559 recommendation when it brings safety to 00:23:03.640 --> 00:23:05.200 when it brings safety to the Forefront 00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:07.079 of our community 00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:08.920 thank you any other councilors speak 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:11.640 into the item 00:23:12.279 --> 00:23:14.279 otherwise I'll close uh thank you 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:15.759 Council serikov if you've said a lot 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:17.440 that I would say this is very important 00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:19.119 to our community make sure it's a safe 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:21.559 place I'd also like to continue the 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:23.519 advocacy I've been doing with the state 00:23:23.599 --> 00:23:25.920 government to help fund this to The 00:23:26.000 --> 00:23:30.759 Replacements it's a tool that is used by 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:33.519 our local police and important to to 00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:34.720 keep it going 00:23:34.799 --> 00:23:36.200 all right let's take that to the vote 00:23:36.279 --> 00:23:38.319 all those in favour 00:23:38.400 --> 00:23:41.839 it's carried unanimous thank you 00:23:45.519 --> 00:23:48.319 all right on to 10.2 this is the options 00:23:48.400 --> 00:23:50.440 for regulation and management of short 00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:52.720 stay accommodation 00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:54.559 councilors we have the officers report 00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:56.559 does anybody have a question of the 00:23:56.640 --> 00:23:59.759 officers in relation to the report 00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:01.720 Council niagui 00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:03.279 uh yeah there's been a number of 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:04.720 questions from the community in regard 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:07.680 to the calculation of the 750 or so 00:24:07.759 --> 00:24:09.960 listings in Port Phillip I was wondering 00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:10.960 if one of the officers could just 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:12.880 clarify for the community as to how we 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:15.200 came to that figure 00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.200 Cindy would you just answer it 00:24:18.279 --> 00:24:20.839 thank you 00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:23.920 speak into the microphone just because 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:25.680 it's been recorded thank you sorry about 00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:27.960 that okay I'll start again we 00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:29.640 acknowledge that the data immediately 00:24:29.720 --> 00:24:31.599 available to the community on websites 00:24:31.680 --> 00:24:34.480 like air DNA appears to me much higher 00:24:34.559 --> 00:24:36.759 than what officers have researched and 00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:38.880 we researched sites such as booking.com 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:44.200 stays VRBO Airbnb cozy cozy Etc we 00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:45.440 believe this 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:48.200 discrepancy to be because officers have 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:49.720 not counted properties outside of 00:24:49.799 --> 00:24:51.440 Municipal boundaries that show up in 00:24:51.519 --> 00:24:52.720 search areas 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:54.759 we did data match into account for 00:24:54.839 --> 00:24:56.400 duplicate listings on the various 00:24:56.480 --> 00:24:59.079 platforms and across the various suburb 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:02.440 areas we did data matching to account 00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:04.920 oh sorry we also did not count listings 00:25:05.000 --> 00:25:06.839 that were greater than 30 days and would 00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:08.759 not really fit the brief of what truly 00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:11.759 is short stay accommodation and we also 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:13.920 excluded service departments hotels and 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:16.200 the like that were listing only a room 00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:18.640 to rent and not an entire property what 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:20.920 is important to note that is that short 00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:23.680 stay accommodation is a fluid market and 00:25:23.759 --> 00:25:25.759 with what is listed at any given time 00:25:25.839 --> 00:25:28.559 changing depending on 00:25:28.640 --> 00:25:32.039 the situation in the municipality we 00:25:32.119 --> 00:25:33.839 have carried out this data analysis on 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:35.680 two separate occasions in April and 00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:37.240 again in June so that we could be 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:40.920 sufficiently confident in this data 00:25:41.000 --> 00:25:42.839 thank you any further questions of 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:43.839 officers 00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:45.759 councilman 00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:47.200 in a similar question to council 00:25:47.279 --> 00:25:49.799 miyagi's offices data show as a 00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:52.039 significant spike in the number of 00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:53.960 concerns raised about short-term 00:25:54.039 --> 00:25:56.079 accommodation in the month of June can I 00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:58.680 ask and obviously we officers can't 00:25:58.759 --> 00:25:59.880 divulge 00:25:59.960 --> 00:26:01.839 exactly which premises are being 00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:03.039 complained about 00:26:03.119 --> 00:26:06.640 were there many many new premises that 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:07.839 we hadn't heard of before that were 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:09.559 complained about did these complaints 00:26:09.640 --> 00:26:12.200 relate to only a few premises or are we 00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:13.599 not sure where these complaints came 00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:15.880 from 00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:19.000 Mark J 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:21.200 thank you and through you mayor 00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:22.960 um yes there has been a spike in the 00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:26.160 June period of complaints 00:26:26.240 --> 00:26:30.079 um that we have received there was not a 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:32.440 particular pattern there across the 00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:34.839 entire municipality but they're all 00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:37.160 Airbnb listed properties 00:26:37.240 --> 00:26:40.440 the the spike was really around 00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:42.680 um Anonymous complaints which has made 00:26:42.759 --> 00:26:44.319 it very difficult for officers to 00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:47.000 investigate 00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:50.359 thank you further questions 00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:54.400 anything else 00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:56.440 cancer bond to move do I have a 00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:59.279 secondary councilor Crawford II 00:26:59.359 --> 00:27:00.680 thank you cancer bomb would like to 00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:01.960 speak to it 00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:03.440 precision 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:06.640 okay so we'll handle the procedural 00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:09.640 motion councilor Martin so through you 00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:11.440 me in accordance with section 42 of 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:13.559 councilors governance rules I move a 00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:14.799 procedural motion that the matter be 00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:16.119 adjourned to the council meeting to be 00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:18.559 held at 6 30 pm on the 4th of October 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:20.200 2023 00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:23.759 thank you I'll second that 00:27:24.240 --> 00:27:25.839 uh so we'll go ahead and vote on the 00:27:25.920 --> 00:27:28.119 procedural motion oh no I don't oh it 00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:30.160 gets debated sorry all right councilman 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:31.200 would you like to speak to it first 00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:33.160 thank you mate 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:35.400 um as we've been debating behind closed 00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:37.000 doors amongst our social councilors 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:39.319 about the various options there I find 00:27:39.400 --> 00:27:41.559 myself believing that most of the 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:43.480 recommendations option one which is the 00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:45.039 officer's recommendation a very very 00:27:45.119 --> 00:27:47.440 sound recommendations however also 00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:49.319 believe that we do have powers under 00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:52.079 Clause 59 of the local law to act in 00:27:52.160 --> 00:27:54.400 particular situations where 00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:57.640 um other efforts to um selfish is having 00:27:57.720 --> 00:27:59.559 failed so for example an owner's 00:27:59.640 --> 00:28:01.440 Corporation has been unable to resolve 00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:03.440 issues so while I firmly believe that 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:06.039 most matters concerning um the 00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:07.319 management of short say accommodation 00:28:07.400 --> 00:28:08.559 amenities should be dealt with by the 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:09.759 state government and we've certainly 00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:12.079 asked the state government through our 00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:15.400 local government Association to 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:18.079 develop laws that can be uniform across 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:20.079 the state I believe that it behooves us 00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:23.920 as a council to come up with at least 00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:26.400 the potential to use Clause 59 of the 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:28.119 local law if and when we don't we 00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:29.559 believe that all other efforts to solve 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:32.200 a dispute have failed now option two as 00:28:32.279 --> 00:28:33.839 it's currently listed doesn't spell that 00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:35.680 out it basically leaves 00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:37.559 um 00:28:37.640 --> 00:28:41.680 close 59 is there to be used and anytime 00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:42.880 there's any complaint and I believe that 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:45.440 could create an unnecessary workload for 00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:47.400 officers and it also means that many 00:28:47.480 --> 00:28:49.200 complaints which could be sorted out 00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:50.920 easily at the local level will come to 00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:52.720 count and be escalated to council and 00:28:52.799 --> 00:28:55.200 it's not necessary since neither of the 00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:57.839 two options fully spell out a solution 00:28:57.920 --> 00:28:59.640 to the concerns I've raised I'm asking 00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:02.559 the councilors are prepared to leave 00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:04.720 this until Council officers can come 00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:07.240 back and bring back a recommendation to 00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:10.559 us that allows us to fully Implement 00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:12.279 most of the recommendations in the 00:29:12.359 --> 00:29:14.160 current offices Rec in option one but 00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:16.480 also provide an alternate which allows 00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:18.160 under particular circumstances for 00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:20.519 officers to implement local law Clause 00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:22.359 59 to deal with situations which can't 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:24.960 can't be solved in any other way and in 00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:26.519 the meantime we have that the state 00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:28.079 government eventually comes up with some 00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:31.200 some overall State guidelines which 00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:32.680 means that we don't need to take this on 00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:35.680 at a local level so yeah 00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:38.039 supportive of 90 of the officers but 00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:39.440 believe we need to give ourselves the 00:29:39.519 --> 00:29:41.680 option to be able to act in particular 00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:44.200 circumstances using Clause 59 there's 00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:45.640 nothing in the current wreck that allows 00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:47.880 us to do that appropriately we need to 00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:49.200 check our legals and I hope that 00:29:49.279 --> 00:29:51.079 councilors will support this procedural 00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.039 motion which will allow us to come back 00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.319 in a few weeks time and come up with 00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:58.680 what I believe is a better motion than 00:29:58.759 --> 00:30:00.960 it's currently on the table 00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:02.960 thank you I'll speak to the secondary 00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:05.400 for the procedural motion uh we've heard 00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:06.880 people speak for and again this is 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:08.400 really important to our community we 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:10.079 need to get it right so I'm happy to 00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:11.519 take a little bit more time to explore 00:30:11.599 --> 00:30:14.519 the options and come back on the item 00:30:14.599 --> 00:30:15.880 would anybody else like to speak to this 00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.319 procedural motion console Bond 00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:20.960 um just to say that I would be happy to 00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:22.839 to vote on this tonight would be happy 00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:24.279 to support the officer's recommendation 00:30:24.359 --> 00:30:26.920 had we been allowed to vote on this 00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:28.000 tonight 00:30:28.079 --> 00:30:29.799 um I just will say this is probably 00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:31.119 going to get up this procedural motion 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.559 even though I don't support it I will 00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:35.680 say a lot of the discussion has been 00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:37.920 around the number of premises on Airbnb 00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:40.720 the number of listings I did a probably 00:30:40.799 --> 00:30:43.119 spent 20 25 minutes 00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:46.480 today on Airbnb and yes when you put in 00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:48.559 the name Saint Kilda it comes back and 00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:50.559 says you know there's a thousand plus 00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:52.440 properties available in St Kilda and 00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:54.400 people are using that to say hey the 00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:55.960 numbers the officers have given us of 00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:57.799 wrong but when you drill down into those 00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.279 it spits out properties in 00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:02.200 um all along St Kilda Road Saint Kilda 00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:04.480 East balaclava Elwood Middle Park 00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:06.960 they're all included under a St Kilda 00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.200 search so whether you know when you put 00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:10.960 Saint Kilda in it's including properties 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:12.759 within a two kilometer five kilometer 10 00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:14.279 kilometer radius I don't know how they 00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:17.200 come up with their thousand but when you 00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:19.119 go to the mapping function and you look 00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:20.880 at the on the map the actual number of 00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:23.440 properties in what I would consider to 00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.039 be the St Kilda boundary I.E excluding 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:29.079 St Kilda West and St Kilda East and all 00:31:29.160 --> 00:31:30.519 these other old and all those things the 00:31:30.599 --> 00:31:31.960 numbers there were generally consistent 00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:34.240 with the the numbers our officers have 00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:37.440 here in their report so it's I can't see 00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:39.079 or couldn't see this afternoon how they 00:31:39.160 --> 00:31:40.559 were missing thousands of properties 00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:42.559 that people are telling us are on these 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.640 listings so you know my own research 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:47.319 sort of aligns with what's in the report 00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:49.559 in front of us so that's just my no 00:31:49.640 --> 00:31:51.119 sorry 00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:53.200 please so they're generally consistent 00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:54.960 with the officers so 00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:56.559 um just to put that out there 00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:57.680 um I'd be happy as I said I'd be happy 00:31:57.759 --> 00:31:59.279 to vote on this tonight at my support 00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:01.599 and adjournment but I feel I'm probably 00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:03.279 going to lose that tonight 00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:05.039 thank you councilor about an email speak 00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:06.640 to the procedure motion councilor Baxter 00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:09.640 yeah I won't be supporting the deferral 00:32:09.720 --> 00:32:12.319 um of this motion uh I understand the 00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:13.680 councilors want to get it right I think 00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:16.119 the best way to get it right would be to 00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.079 um look at uh doing consultation 00:32:19.160 --> 00:32:20.319 um that with the community on 00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:21.680 implementing a registration and 00:32:21.759 --> 00:32:23.640 compliance system as has happened in 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:26.519 other councils in Victoria and across 00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:27.799 Australia 00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:30.960 um I just like most people would rather 00:32:31.039 --> 00:32:33.759 the state regulate this they're refusing 00:32:33.839 --> 00:32:35.039 to do so 00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:36.680 um so given the impacts Upon Our 00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:38.319 Community I think that we should be 00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:41.079 stepping into that space 00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:43.319 and perhaps we can step out again if the 00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:45.599 state decides to implement a Statewide 00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:48.640 registration scheme but we need to be 00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:50.880 doing right by our community and I don't 00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:53.160 see any benefit into in deferring this 00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:55.559 motion 00:32:55.640 --> 00:32:57.039 thank you 00:32:57.119 --> 00:32:59.559 anyone else 00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:01.359 if not we're voting on the procedural 00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:02.640 motion 00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.759 go to the vote now all those in favour 00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.400 one two three four five that's majority 00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:10.119 because we have seven councilors so it 00:33:10.200 --> 00:33:11.880 passes all those against 00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:14.640 one two thank you sorry now it passes 00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.400 apologies 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:23.960 you guys are getting along so well 00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:26.079 okay 00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:29.400 thank you I catch up on my paperwork 00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:32.799 right so we'll move on to 13.1 the 00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:36.319 Electoral representation review 00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:38.079 sponsored electoral representation 00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:42.000 advisory panel preliminary report 00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:44.400 councilors do you have any questions of 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.880 the offices in relation to this report 00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:51.680 no questions all right I'll look for a 00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:53.960 mover of this thank you councilor Martin 00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:56.559 to Second councilor sierkov councilor 00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:58.559 Martin would Jack to speak to it 00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:00.160 thank you to the officers for preparing 00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:01.559 the report which is based on the 00:34:01.640 --> 00:34:02.759 Victorian electoral commission's 00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:04.359 recommendations 00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:06.400 um 00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.519 whether or not Council 00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:09.960 reports there's members of the public 00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:11.679 anyone listening in anyone else out 00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:12.880 there you'll have an opportunity the 00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:15.880 public hearings to put your own views 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:18.039 um I think what the officer's 00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:19.239 recommendation here is a very reasonable 00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:20.920 one and I'm happy to support it but I 00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:23.119 also advise people out there that anyone 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:24.320 who lives in the city of Port Phillip 00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:25.639 would like to have some input into the 00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:27.039 process will have their opportunity 00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:28.440 doing the public hearings and if you 00:34:28.519 --> 00:34:30.079 think the council's got it wrong you can 00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:31.440 have your chance to make that view and 00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:33.159 then at some stage in the next few 00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:34.480 months the Electoral commission will 00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:36.480 finally uh 00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:38.920 and announce what the the boundaries are 00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:40.239 so whether they're the ones that council 00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:42.079 is supporting tonight at others we'll 00:34:42.159 --> 00:34:43.599 have to wait and see but thank you 00:34:43.679 --> 00:34:45.239 officers thank you councilors I think 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:46.960 our recommendation is a very reasonable 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:48.320 one I hope the Electoral commission 00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:50.239 looks on it favourably 00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:51.880 thank you council do you want to speak 00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:54.159 to it no anybody else want to speak to 00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:55.199 the item 00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:57.159 councilor Baxter 00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.079 um thank you yeah uh I won't be 00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:00.239 supporting this 00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:02.119 um uh submission as I don't think any of 00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:05.119 the three models given by the e-wrap 00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:09.360 um worked well enough to meet their own 00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:12.519 criteria with with great respect of them 00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:15.159 um who put them together so I'll be 00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:17.679 putting in my my own submission as a as 00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:19.960 a further option but uh yeah I can't 00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:21.000 support 00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:23.320 supporting one of those options 00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:26.840 so I'll probably abstain I guess 00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:29.679 thank you anybody else speaking to the 00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:31.840 item 00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:35.440 go to the vote all those in favour 00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:38.119 okay all those against 00:35:38.199 --> 00:35:40.760 all those abstaining okay then that's 00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:43.320 carried 00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:52.079 okay 00:35:53.519 --> 00:35:56.199 on to 13.2 this is the admissible 00:35:56.280 --> 00:35:58.320 Association of Victoria State Council 00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:01.760 for October 2023 submissions 00:36:01.840 --> 00:36:03.079 councilors do you have any questions of 00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:06.400 the officers in relation to the report 00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:09.400 no all right I'm looking for someone to 00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:11.199 move this or something else councilor 00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:12.480 Martin 00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.079 who would like to Second it 00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:17.400 all right I'll second it 00:36:17.480 --> 00:36:18.880 councilman would you like to speak to it 00:36:18.960 --> 00:36:21.000 thank you to the officers for developing 00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:23.320 these recommendations to the mov 00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:25.960 conference the first one about a 00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:27.400 coordinated approach to the development 00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:29.000 of regulatory and compliance framework 00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:31.440 that that's consistent across the state 00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:33.159 will make life so much easier for all of 00:36:33.239 --> 00:36:34.639 our local councils and make life so much 00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:36.719 as if all of our communities if the 00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:38.119 whole state is working under the same 00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:41.400 regulatory framework at the moment uh 00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:43.360 they're inconsistencies and I note that 00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:45.280 other states have been able to make 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:47.920 things consistent hopefully the mov can 00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:51.039 pressure our state government to 00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:52.320 um have the same consistency here in 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:54.840 Victoria the second one I note is that 00:36:54.920 --> 00:36:57.639 it concerns um open space when we're 00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.159 noting we're asking the mov and the 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:01.480 state government to note that open space 00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:03.239 is critical to ensure livability health 00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:04.960 and thriving communities and we're 00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:06.719 noting ongoing concerns regarding the 00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:07.960 failure to provide open space and 00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:09.719 developing areas like Fisherman's Bend 00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:11.440 and we're advocating to the state 00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:12.960 government to prioritize the delivery of 00:37:13.039 --> 00:37:14.480 open space including working with 00:37:14.559 --> 00:37:16.000 councils to develop and deliver open 00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:17.880 space strategies and this is quite 00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:19.719 timely because as recently as last 00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:22.719 Sunday Council was advocating publicly 00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:25.440 for the currently listed area that's 00:37:25.519 --> 00:37:26.880 listed in the fisherman's band master 00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.320 plan as open space to be used as open 00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:31.440 space and there are concerns that there 00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:32.719 may be 00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:35.440 you know in other parts of our community 00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:38.079 um and intend to use that the land in 00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:39.480 particular to docent of the North Port 00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:41.320 over the area for something other than 00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:43.599 open space so very very timely this 00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.199 motion is going through to the mov 00:37:46.280 --> 00:37:49.239 thank you councilor Martin 00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:50.920 I'm pretty good you said it all thank 00:37:51.000 --> 00:37:52.519 you very much and any other councilors 00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:54.719 want to speak to it 00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:56.320 if not we'll take you to the vote all 00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:58.079 those in favour 00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:01.960 that's Carrie unanimous thank you 00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:07.199 great on to 13.3 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:08.679 now we're going to take the next three 00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:11.920 on block so that means 13.3 which is 00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:13.480 status of council decisions and 00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:15.360 questions taken on notice recorded by 00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:17.800 Council the 1st of April to the 30th of 00:38:17.880 --> 00:38:19.639 June 2023 00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.760 as well as 13.4 counselor expenses 00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:26.599 monthly reporting for June 2023 and 13.5 00:38:26.679 --> 00:38:29.559 updates the S5 instrument of Delegation 00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:32.440 Council to the Chief Executive Officer 00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:34.440 we will take one vote for the three 00:38:34.519 --> 00:38:36.519 items but councilors can ask questions 00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:39.599 or speak to any of them in the one go up 00:38:39.679 --> 00:38:40.639 front 00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:42.280 so 00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:44.559 here we go does anybody have any 00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:45.719 questions in relation to any of the 00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:46.960 items 00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:49.440 no I'm looking for a mover of the three 00:38:49.519 --> 00:38:51.960 items councilor Martin is there a second 00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:53.800 or for the three items councilor 00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:54.760 Crawford 00:38:54.840 --> 00:38:56.599 thank you Council Martin would you speak 00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:57.599 to it 00:38:57.679 --> 00:38:59.400 again very briefly Matt I was going 00:38:59.480 --> 00:39:01.000 through the list of council meeting and 00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:04.119 planning committee decisions and 00:39:04.199 --> 00:39:06.159 I'm amazed the amount of work that we do 00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:08.000 as a council and the amount of work that 00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:10.719 our Council officers do if anyone thinks 00:39:10.800 --> 00:39:12.960 that our Council officers and the 00:39:13.039 --> 00:39:14.480 council sitting around this table are 00:39:14.559 --> 00:39:16.440 not fully employed and looking after the 00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:17.760 people of the city of Port Phillip I 00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:19.199 suggest they go through and look at all 00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:20.920 the Motions that have gone through and 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:21.880 the work that's come out of those 00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:23.880 motions because it's a very good um 00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:25.960 record of what our council's done over 00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:28.199 the last few months so 00:39:28.280 --> 00:39:29.880 um I'd like to highlight that and come 00:39:29.960 --> 00:39:33.039 into three motions to you 00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:34.960 the three recommendations 00:39:35.039 --> 00:39:37.719 thank you councilor Crawford 00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:38.880 no 00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:40.760 all right I would like to add just on 00:39:40.840 --> 00:39:42.360 the expenses report there's a large 00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:46.239 expense against me and I did do the aicd 00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:49.320 course however I used our existing mov 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:51.639 credits so there was no additional cost 00:39:51.719 --> 00:39:53.800 to council but it has to still be 00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:55.719 reflected there 00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:57.360 all right anybody else speaking to the 00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.239 item tonight the items three items nope 00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:02.480 otherwise let's take it to the vote all 00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:04.000 those in favour 00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.760 that's Carrie unanimous thank you 00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:13.440 20 minutes all right I've been told that 00:40:13.519 --> 00:40:14.920 Council of pearls here in 20 minutes 00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.559 we'll see if we are still in the meeting 00:40:17.639 --> 00:40:20.239 huh well we're gonna we got one more 00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:21.719 item so we're done with presentation 00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:22.920 report so we're going on to the nurse 00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:25.519 emotions councilors we have one notice 00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:28.719 the motion tonight it's 14.1 it's a 00:40:28.800 --> 00:40:30.519 motion that I have raised in relation to 00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:32.880 the South Bank police station parking 00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:34.199 permits 00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:36.360 I will move this motion is there a 00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:37.360 secondary 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:40.840 councilor Crawford thank you 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:44.199 all right 00:40:44.280 --> 00:40:46.519 so 00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:49.360 I'll ask if well I guess I will speak to 00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:52.960 it and ask for questions is that 00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:55.079 I might ask for questions first they may 00:40:55.159 --> 00:40:56.480 have any questions in relation to the 00:40:56.559 --> 00:40:58.960 motion 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:02.079 no all right then I will go ahead and 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:04.639 speak to it so this was actually a part 00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:06.840 of a previous vote when we were looking 00:41:06.920 --> 00:41:09.239 at parking permits our policy more 00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:12.719 broadly and we had decided to decline 00:41:12.800 --> 00:41:16.119 all the South Bank police station is a 00:41:16.199 --> 00:41:17.599 little bit different in the fact that 00:41:17.679 --> 00:41:20.079 although it is within our boundary it's 00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:22.440 the very top end and they they're meant 00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:24.360 to be doing most of the work in the city 00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:26.400 of Melbourne sometimes they do offer 00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:28.639 support to the South Melbourne uh Branch 00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:31.119 when or station when they are 00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:32.719 understaffed 00:41:32.800 --> 00:41:35.079 but the difference also because we have 00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:38.480 police permits to Saint Kilda and South 00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:41.880 Melbourne is that there are no garages 00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:44.239 or parking facilities that are 00:41:44.320 --> 00:41:46.199 accessible to those police stations in 00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:48.760 the nearby vicinity whereas this one 00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:50.760 does however we've had feedback from the 00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:52.920 police station to say that those 00:41:53.000 --> 00:41:55.239 actually are more permanent out and not 00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:57.639 as readily available as we were saw in 00:41:57.719 --> 00:41:59.679 the report and so they were asking to 00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:01.199 have 00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:03.639 um some permits reconsidered so this is 00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:04.719 a 00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:08.199 an attempt at finding the middle ground 00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:11.199 maybe like a comprise situation to 00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:13.000 introduce a few more permits back to 00:42:13.079 --> 00:42:15.039 them their request was for much higher 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:16.719 and I acknowledge that 00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:19.840 uh and that it recharged at the visitor 00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:22.639 parking rate whereas we are not charging 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:23.880 the other ones 00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:25.199 so 00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:27.840 I would like that councilors to consider 00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:31.199 this tonight to support the police and 00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:34.519 their existence in our municipality 00:42:34.599 --> 00:42:37.079 Council Crawford Jack speak to it oh 00:42:37.159 --> 00:42:38.760 just to say look we acknowledge the good 00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:40.519 work they do it is a difficult situation 00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:42.960 we have lots of these Legacy car parking 00:42:43.039 --> 00:42:45.400 that is not applied equally or fairly 00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:48.039 across our municipality so this is an 00:42:48.119 --> 00:42:49.519 attempt to 00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:50.480 um 00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:53.119 uh to take on what some of what they've 00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:55.639 said in in in regards to Arrangements 00:42:55.719 --> 00:42:57.719 but it also isn't fair to The Wider 00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:00.280 Community to continue 00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:02.599 um with those Legacy permits as they 00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:03.960 were 00:43:04.039 --> 00:43:05.800 thank you anybody else want to speak to 00:43:05.880 --> 00:43:07.480 them because of Sarah cough 00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:10.119 you'll be supportive of this I think 00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:11.599 it's um 00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:13.360 it was unfortunate in the situation when 00:43:13.440 --> 00:43:15.239 we were looking at this at back in May 00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:18.000 of May of this year and 00:43:18.079 --> 00:43:20.719 um there was a situation where we were 00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:21.840 going to be 00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:25.440 removing our parking permits to the 00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:27.159 police but I'm glad that this motion's 00:43:27.239 --> 00:43:29.920 been brought forward to amend that 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:32.440 because I think the police force play an 00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:34.519 important part in our community they 00:43:34.599 --> 00:43:37.199 might have their day-to-day call outs 00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:39.000 which um 00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:42.000 just ordinary situations but then again 00:43:42.079 --> 00:43:44.519 they do face a lot of unpleasant 00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:46.960 situations emergency situations 00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:49.199 anti-social situations and if this is 00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:51.480 one way that we can support them when 00:43:51.559 --> 00:43:54.239 they're going to work and coming going 00:43:54.320 --> 00:43:58.360 home again to make it easy for them for 00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:00.480 accessing parking I'm I'm in support of 00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:02.480 this when when they're a critical part 00:44:02.559 --> 00:44:07.320 of our safety on the streets thank you 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:09.719 thank you any of the councilors speaking 00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:12.760 to the item Council nyagri 00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.039 I won't be supporting this 00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:16.599 um I think it's a look it's always a 00:44:16.679 --> 00:44:18.000 tricky thing well unfortunately when it 00:44:18.079 --> 00:44:20.599 comes to parking there's lots of um 00:44:20.679 --> 00:44:22.960 worthy groups and where the individuals 00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:24.719 who would like to have better access to 00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:26.800 parking and further parking permits but 00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:29.639 ultimately the point of the process we 00:44:29.719 --> 00:44:31.199 went through a couple of months ago was 00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:34.079 to reduce the number of difficult to 00:44:34.159 --> 00:44:37.519 administer bespoke permits and I don't 00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:39.840 think creating another 30 00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:41.639 spark permits that are slightly 00:44:41.719 --> 00:44:43.800 different to the other police permits is 00:44:43.880 --> 00:44:46.119 reducing the industry of burden to our 00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:47.920 staff and I don't think ultimately that 00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:49.920 it is unreasonable for us to ask people 00:44:50.000 --> 00:44:53.320 who work in our city most of whom in any 00:44:53.400 --> 00:44:55.480 other sector would not get a permit to 00:44:55.559 --> 00:44:58.199 also find alternative methods there are 00:44:58.280 --> 00:44:59.880 obviously public transport options 00:44:59.960 --> 00:45:02.639 available and other things so I won't be 00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:05.239 supporting this 00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:08.880 thank you anybody else speaking to the 00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:10.239 Adam 00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:12.239 if not we'll go to the vote all those in 00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:14.239 favour 00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:17.199 all right that's five all those against 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:19.719 two thank you that's carried 00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:23.320 all right I would like to now would not 00:45:23.400 --> 00:45:25.760 be a good time okay I just had an update 00:45:25.840 --> 00:45:28.320 from councilor Pearl that I'd like to 00:45:28.400 --> 00:45:30.960 submit an apology retrospectively on his 00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:32.599 behalf 00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:34.719 you're not going to make it in time he 00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:37.840 didn't think we'd be so fast look at us 00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:39.880 all right 00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:41.880 so that's recorded in the minutes thank 00:45:41.960 --> 00:45:43.119 you 00:45:43.199 --> 00:45:44.639 then we're going to move on to reports 00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:46.920 by Council delegates does anybody have a 00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:48.880 report by counselor delegates you would 00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:51.039 like to give tonight 00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:53.079 moving on onto urgent items of business 00:45:53.159 --> 00:45:55.119 councilors do have any urgent items a 00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:57.360 business I don't know about already 00:45:57.440 --> 00:45:59.800 no thank you confidential matters 00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:01.599 councilors we have no confidential 00:46:01.679 --> 00:46:04.679 reports listed on the agenda 00:46:04.760 --> 00:46:06.960 there be no further business I declare 00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:08.920 the meeting closed 00:46:09.000 --> 00:46:11.440 thank you 00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:15.679 7 17. well done