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Okay, folks, we are finally getting

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started. So, welcome to tonight's

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meeting of the Port Phillip City

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Council. The council respectfully

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acknowledges the traditional owners and

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custodians of the Kulin Nation and we

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acknowledge their legacy and spiritual

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connection to the land and waterways

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across the City of Port Phillip and pay

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our heartfelt respect to their Elders

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past, present, and emerging. So, this

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meeting is being conducted on a

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hybrid style and streamed via council's

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webcast page and Facebook live. We would

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ask that  you do not publish or 

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reproduce any of the recordings of

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council without the permission of

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council. If there are any 

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technical difficulties like me not being

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able to speak, we might take a short

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meet  adjournment and come back once

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we've resolved the issue. Just a

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reminder that attendees and members of

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the public addressing council must

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extend due courtesy and respect to

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council and the processes under which it

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operates and must take direction from

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the chair whenever called on to do so.

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And all speakers must remain respectful

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and any statements or questions must not

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be defamatory, offensive or

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objectionable aimed at embarrassing a

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counselor or member of council staff or

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relate to a matter outside of staff.

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 I'm just going to move through some

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of them.  if you've I know that we've

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got some handouts already. If anyone

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else has any handouts, please could you

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see the governance team and they will

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get them to us

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and if there are any emergencies again

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also look towards  the governance

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team. Now there is a formal announcement

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which obviously we will put out on our

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 various pages but there is a change

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of date for the next council meeting 

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reminding community that it will be

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scheduled on the 2nd Tuesday the 2nd of

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September 2025 instead of Wednesday the

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3rd of September. and it will be on our

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website. So, let's get started.

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Is everything all right there?

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 firstly, councilors, do we have any

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apologies?

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I do believe councilor Thomann is online.

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Thank you. Great.

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Yes, I am.

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Fantastic. Where are you at the moment,

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Councilor Thomann?

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I'm in Marseilles.

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Lovely.

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Okay. Minutes of the previous meetings.

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 councilors, the council meeting of

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the 6th of August 2025 have been

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circulated. Are there any questions

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regarding these minutes?

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If not, could I have a mover and a

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seconder? Councilor Mears to move councilor Makin

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to second. Let's put that to the vote.

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All those in favour that is carried

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unanimously.

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 three. Does anyone have a conflict of

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interest in any matter being discussed

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at tonight's meeting?

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No. Then we're going to move on to a

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condolence motion. So a condolence

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motion has been added to tonight's

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agenda for Wayne Mouse Thompson, who

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sadly passed away on the 2nd of August,

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2025. So, I'm going to now refer to, are

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you ready, Councelor Jay, to say a few

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words,

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or would you like me to pass over what I

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have here?

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 St. Kilda has lost one of its most

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vibrant and influential locals. Known

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for his iconic inline skate shop, Apache

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Junction on Ackland Street, Wayne was a

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great community advocate and a

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passionate skater in Australia's

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rollerblading community and was a

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contributor into getting the skate park

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built in St. Kilda. Having experienced

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life on the streets from the age of 14,

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Wayne was deeply committed to steering

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others away from similar paths. He

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remained a fixture in St. Kilda until

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2021 when he relocated to Wonthaggi. Wayne

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leaves behind a legacy of community,

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creativity, and compassion. We imagine

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him now reunited with Big Max and Mini

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Max. He will be remembered 

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fondly and will be deeply missed.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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So, we have the obviously image up there

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of Mouse Thompson. So councilors,

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I'm going to read the motion and then

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I'm going to seek a mover and second. I

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assume councelor Jay would probably be

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the mover. That council expresses its

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deep regret on the passing of Wayne

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Mouse Thompson offers its sincere

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condolences to their family and places

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on record its appreciation for their

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service to the City of Port Phillip. So,

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councelor Jay to move and do I have a

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seconder?

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Councilor Buckingham. Oh, councelor Thomann

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 is that all right? 

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yes.

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So, let's put that to the vote. All

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those in favour, that is carried

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unanimously. Thank you. We're moving on

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to item four on the agenda, which is

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public question time and submissions.

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So, this is the opportunity to hear all

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of the  public questions and

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submissions. And under our governance

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rules, public questions can only be

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asked about items not on the agenda, and

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they will be referred to Office of

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Response and if you ask a question

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referring to a submission, a counselor

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may choose to take that up when we get

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to the item. So,

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 could I get Paul Hickey if you

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could Yep. Great. Paul, if you could

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state your name and suburb and then we

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have over 10 speakers who I'll give you

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two minutes, but I will be a little bit

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flexible at the end if people need

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that little bit of extra time. So,

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yeah. Good evening, Mayor Council. It's

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good to see you again. I may have to

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come back next week, Mayor, as my

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questions. I've got eight.  I'm not

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going to get

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Well, 2 minutes is yours. That's

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I know. Yeah. First question, which is

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an important one.  speaking with a

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fellow neighbor,  clearly there's

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still problems with regards to planning,

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building, and heritage within the

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administration of building applications.

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I was here in 2017

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speaking with the then Mayor and

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expressing to her the dreadful

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experience we had, total frustration. It

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took us 22 months to get an application

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through for rebuilding our fence. What

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we discovered was just dysfunctionality

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across building, heritage, and planning.

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Neither unit spoke to the other. They

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lost our application three times. Three

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times. Fourth time we had to lodge it.

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The only reason it was eventually put

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through is I I got on to a senior member

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of council  staff who said he was

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ashamed of what we'd gone through and he

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took action to take control of our

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application and get it done. It hasn't

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improved.

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 we were promised changes. We were

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promised improvement in 2017. So the

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council, I ask you what has been done.

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I'll direct you back to the questions I

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asked in April of 2017

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because from what I'm hearing of my

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neighbors, it has not changed. Second

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question,  I thank you council for

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standing up to this um  survey on the

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 Grand Prix amendment. It has not been

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a consultation of affected stakeholders

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by the Allen government and we deserve

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to be asked whether we agree with this

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Grand Prix being extended from three

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days to 3 weeks. As you know, I have

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been here before to express to you our

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frustration at the way we are treated by

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the Australian Grand Prix Corporation,

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but also the failure in parking. This

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can't go on and we deserve the right to

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be heard. We deserve the right to

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protest at this event. And I would ask

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council that we we we need to go to Nina

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Taylor. She is the member of parliament

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representing this electorate and we need

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to be expressing that no, we do not want

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the Grand Prix going on and we deserve

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the right to for her to hear us and the

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government to hear us as to how the

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Grand Prix Corporation is failing us,

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failing to acknowledge the impact it has

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on our right to our access our homes,

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our streets, , and and our life during

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the time it's on. Two other quick ones.

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Um, with regards to the trees, please

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that were put up in the nature strips.

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We weren't consulted about this. , I

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already have to take care of 100 m of

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nature strip. I mow it every day for you

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guys. I mow it for council. I look after

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it. Trees were put in there which have

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made our job a lot harder. I wasn't

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asked. No neighbors were asked whether

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these trees were appropriate. And if you

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want to put the trees in, council takes

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over the management and the maintenance

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of the nature strips.  again, that was

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another question I had. Why have these

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trees been put in with no consultation

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or regard to the effect it has for the

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maintenance of the strips that the

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neighbors that the residents are doing?

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Well, I am going to stop you there

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because we didn't put the timer on.

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Can I come back next week then?

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You can come back next week. So,

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see you go all again another time,

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another venue.

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Yeah, thank you. Um well, you could just

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email through and we can get the answers

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and writing. So I'm only going to get

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take responses to two of those

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questions. So the first one, Paul Wood,

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you're going to speak to that, please.

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Paul, thank you for your question and

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through your Mayor.  firstly, I'm

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sorry to hear that you've had historical

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problems with planning, building, and

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heritage related matters.  while I

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can't speak to the particular

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circumstances from a number of years

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ago, I can outline the improvements that

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have been made and are being made to

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planning and building processes.

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Currently  we have a um a focus on

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service delivery, tracking of customer

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complaints and improving the active

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management of applications. Um we've

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implemented service improvements with a

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focus on customer service and making

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quicker decisions. Last year in planning

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we reduced the average time it takes to

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get a decision by about 30 days.  and

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also increased the percentage of

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applications decided within time frame

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by about  11 or 12% on the year

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before. This year we've already seen

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further improvements where we're sitting

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well above the inner and metro average

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within planning. So while we continue to

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reflect on customer feedback um we do

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make improvements to our service

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delivery to reflect that feedback. Thank

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you.

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 and we're going to go to Mike Fischer

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I believe to respond to the second part

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or the second question

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through you Mayor and thank you for the

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question. Um so council worked closely

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with community stakeholders to inform

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our submission which was endorsed at the

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most recent council meeting and has now

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been published on our website. So the

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submission does reflect the key concerns

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concerns raised by the community

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including the short time frame for

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public consultation which risks

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excluding community voices and

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undermining trust in the process. 

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disruption to the sporting clubs that

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rely on uninterrupted access to the

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lake. restrictions on passive recreation

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which negatively impact residents

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well-being and the potential

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environmental impacts on the lakes's

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biodiversity. So we council remains

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committed to working with the Australian

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Grand Prix Corporation and local members

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of parliament

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excuse me to ensure the concerns of our

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community continue to be represented.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Okay. Um we are moving on to item 11.1

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the dog off leash area changes. So,

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we're going online first to Terrence

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Glennine.

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Hi, Terrence.

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Is it a press? There might be a popup.

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Unmute yourself. That old chestnut.

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Hi, Terrence.

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Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Hi. Oh, if you could state your name on

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suburb, we can hear you. And you've got

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 two minutes. Thank you. Terrence

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Glennane, Sincilda.

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 I am the president of the  dog

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owners group of S Kilda. We have

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approximately 2,400 members, many of

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whom walk the their dogs in the shared

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sports ovals, including Peanut Farm. I'm

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also on the steering committee of the

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City of Port Phillip dog network.

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It was overwhelming overwhelmingly clear

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from the council's dog off leash survey

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that there is a need for more dog off

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leash spaces right now. We ask you to

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support the proposal to keep SS Anderson

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off leash to keep Northport off leash to

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make Fennel Reserve off leash and to

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change summer access to two beaches. But

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more green spaces are needed right now.

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I'm very concerned that council officers

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have recommended the loss of the off

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leash sports field in Port Melbourne.

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This is JL Murphy pitch three. This sets

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a dangerous precedent. What will be

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next? Will dogs be banned from the

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peanut farm.

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With such little green space available

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for dog owners in our City, the sharing

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of sports fields is essential. Now that

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JL Murphy Pitch 3 is synthetic, it's

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inevitable that dogs will be banned and

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we therefore ask council to ensure that

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a new green space for dogs is created in

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the vicinity of pitch three. We suggest

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that this should be in the field at the

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junction of Williamstown Road and Graham

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Street. It just needs some proper

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fencing on two sides and it's already

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designated an off leash space. My

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colleagues will speak about Robinson's

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reserve and how Cresant Reserve West in

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more detail and why we believe the

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survey data supports ongoing with these

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proposed new off leash spaces. The City

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of Port Philip Group is concerned that

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changes to the off leash spaces may not

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be imple implemented by council to the

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degree that it will be expected by the

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result of this survey. The community

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including dog owners expects council to

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listen to them and act accordingly.

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I do.

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Thank you, Terrence.

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, in person, Louisa Lan,

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apologies for my coughing as we go

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through. Apologies. I've got that tickle

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in the back of my throat. Um, so Louisa

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name, suburb, end 2 minutes.

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Thank you, Mayor and counselors. I'm

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speaking to item 11.1.

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The Cop Dog Network has 2,000 members

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across our entire City, of which 7% live

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in South Melbourne,

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10% live in Elwood, 32% live in Port

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Melbourne, and it is the residents of

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these specific wards who have asked us

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to speak to you tonight.

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We ask you to support the following

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recommendations which were clearly

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supported in the survey. Change Fennel

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Reserve to off leash. SS Anderson Sports

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Ground to remain off leash. Northport

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Oval remains on leash. Extended summer

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access to the two beaches. Also clearly

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supported to go ahead are Robinson

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Reserve 80% support and how Cresant

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Reserve West 62%.

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Yet the re recommendation is not to go

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ahead and we ask you to reconsider this.

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My fellow dog owners will propose a

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solution that reflects the qualitative

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and quantitative data. I will focus

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tonight on the proposed loss of JL

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Murphy's pitch three which Terry

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mentioned earlier. Only 27% of

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respondents supported banning dogs here.

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Now it has already been made synthetic.

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So dogs are banned whether we liked it

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or not. Regardless of the survey result,

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what we're concerned about is that the

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housing developments at Fisherman's Bend

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are targeted to bring in 80,000

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residents by 2050. If we conservatively

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estimate that 30% of them own a dog,

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we're talking 24,000

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additional dogs. New dog owners are

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already arriving in their droves. With

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the pressure on green spaces increasing,

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it's critical that sports fields share

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their spaces with dog owners. Making

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fennel reserve off leash is fantastic,

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but it will not cancel out the loss of

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pitch three. The sites are in fact 2 km

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away. There is however a simple

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solution, the same solution Terry has

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proposed. Make the underutilized green

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space at the corner of Graham Street and

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Williamstown Road a properly fenced in

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dog off leash park. Thank you very much

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for listening.

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Thank you, Louisa.

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Sally Blair.

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Hi, Sally. If you could state your name

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and suburban again, two minutes. Thank

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you. Okay. I'm I'm Sally Blair. Thank

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you for counselors for being present and

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listening to us dog fanatics.

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Okay. So, I I live in Albert Park. ,

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and I've got two dogs, two little dogs,

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and I always seek out off leash parks. I

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do walk them around the streets. , but

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they do like to mix with other dogs,

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play, and the off leash parks provides

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the owners time to get to know each

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other, and it's and it um creates a

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community feel about about things. So,

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I'm going to talk about South Melbourne

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because I do take my dogs to South

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Melbourne to walk.

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And we're proposing that you seriously

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consider the How Crescent West

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to be designated as an as a off off

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leash trial and then if it um is

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positive feedback then maybe offense.

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Right. So also there there is the ANZAC

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reserve,

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Anzac Gardens Reserve in South Melbourne

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and that's already being used by dogs

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and we would like that to definitely be

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off off leash as well, permanent off

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leash that there are dogs there all the

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time. It's um it's quite out of the way.

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It's not near any main roads. It's right

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on the um light rail line. So the dogs

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can walk there, the owners can talk

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there, and it's it's it's it's

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reasonably safe at all times. So making

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that a permanent off leash would be very

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much recommended by us dog owners.

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So thank you for listening. Okay, thank

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you very much.  we're going online

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again to Peter Holland.

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Hi Peter.

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Are you there Peter? We know you've done

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this before.

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Unmute. I Does it pop up? Is it a popup?

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I I should do it from home one time to

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know what the process is.

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Peter, are you there?

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Should we come back?

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You unmute. Peter, they're asking me to

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ask you to press unmute somewhere on

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your screen.

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We're going to come back to you, Peter.

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We'll we'll try and figure that. All

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right, we're going to Sonia Ollity.

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Did I say that correctly? You can

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correct me as you see there. Hi, Sonia.

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Could you say your name and suburb and

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then you've got two minutes.

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Good evening, counselors. My name is

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Sonia Ollity and I'm from St Kilda. I'm

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a member of the cop dog network who

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support dog owners across the whole of

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Port Phillip. I've lived in St Kilda for

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eight years. I've raised my family in

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Elwood for 15 years, 10 of them being

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their sports taxi. A dog owner for seven

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years. And my work takes me to St Kilda,

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Elwood, and South Melbourne. And I'm

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part of a walking group that walks the

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length and breadth of St Kilda West

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beaches all the way down to Elwood 5

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days a week, every week, dogs in tow. I

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am supportive of Fenel Reserve becoming

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fenced off leash, SS Anderson remaining

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off leash, Northport Oval remaining on

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leash, and summer beach access for Port

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Melbourne and Elwood. I'm supportive of

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either Hal Cresant or Anzac Gardens. I

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can take my dog to work, but I don't

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because there's nowhere for my dog to

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play in South Melbourne when we take a

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break at lunchtime.

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I'm supportive of either Robinson

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Reserve or Point Orman Reserve. Robinson

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is a large space in a trafficheavy

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location, but with 80% support, the

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survey has identified what a valuable

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public resource this could offer. There

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is already pedestrian access around it

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with four traffic light crossings on

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Marine Parade, Barkley Street, and Glenn

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Huntley Road. It would require

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investment in appropriate fencing,

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facilities, and increased vegetation,

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but that's what the funding's for.

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I ask council to go back to community

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consultation to decide on either

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Robinson Reserve or Point Orman Reserve.

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Getting Lwood sorted quickly and easily

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enables you to then focus on more areas

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in the mun municipality.

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Thank you. That's it.

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Thank you. You

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not short and sweet. Thank you very

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much.

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You're welcome.

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Do we want to go back online to either

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Peter or Brody? Not yet. Not yet. Okay,

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we're going to go to Jen Bishop, please.

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Hi, Jen. I don't need to tell you what

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to do.

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Evening. I'm Jen Bishop, Elwood

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resident. I've been deeply embedded into

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this community, this Elwood community

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for over 25 years. Um, I walk the

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streets. I walk the beach of Elwood

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every single day. I know hundreds of

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people in Elwood. Um I now have a group,

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an online group which contains 300

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people who are specifically Elwood based

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residents. So not from anywhere else. So

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I think I have a fairly good

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understanding of what it is that the

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Elwood community wants. And whilst um

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it's true that that quantitative survey

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said 80% of people agreed with

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Robinson's reserve,  the people

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filling in the survey suffer from a

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thing called nonrespondent

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bias or sample bias. Therefore, it's not

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a random sample. So, um anybody can fill

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in that survey. So, it can be people

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from Port Melbourne, it can be people

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from South Melbourne who are all filling

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in that survey. So, it's not necessarily

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representative of the Elwood community.

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There was an overwhelming response um

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against Robinson's Reserve and the

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safety and the danger of Robinson's

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Reserve.

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Sorry.

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Some say Elwood Dogs know the council

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agenda better than their owners, and

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tonight they'll be very pleased with

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item 11.1.

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This motion is a once- in a decade

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opportunity for Elwood dog owners. Thank

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you. Thank you so much. And here's why.

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Until now, we only had 250 m of space

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for 2 hours of the day for 5 months of

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the year and only one little reserve to

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put our dogs in. So, this is a huge

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change and everyone is super excited

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about having an extra 350 m and evening

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access. So, while other areas may have

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two dog beaches and eight reserves,

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we've got one tiny reserve and only that

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tiny bit of beach. So, we're super

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excited. Thank you. In 2024, I organized

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a petition signed by over 300 local

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Elwood residents, which led to tonight's

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decision, which I'm incredibly excited

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and happy about. So, thank you to

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everyone who filled in that position

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petition, walked, and spoke at this

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council meeting on behalf of the Oldwood

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residents. We're grateful and committed

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to being responsible dog owners, picking

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up after ourselves with our own poo bags

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and looking after our treasured beach.

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But for these changes to succeed, we

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need clear signage. We need consistent

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enforcement and we need online and

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social media support to make sure people

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know what they're doing. Robinson's

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Reserve sits on a traffic island. It's

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bounded by four of the busiest lanes of

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traffic in Melbourne and also by

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Barkley.

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Um I've actually submitted to you today

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a letter which is signed by our local

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Elwood vet and two trainers with 20

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years experience saying this is an

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unsafe, dangerous and silly place to put

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a dog off lead area. I've also emailed

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you four other much better locations,

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safer locations um which I hope that you

00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:24.296
will consider. take Robinson's Reserve

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right out of the community consultation

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and put those four spaces in. Clark

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Reserve, um, Orman Point Hill, Jen, I

00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:34.775
might have to wrap you up.

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And Clark Reserve. Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Are we going back online? We're going to

00:24:41.919 --> 00:24:44.919
try Brody Mitchell online. Hi, Brody.

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Good evening, everyone. Brody Mitchell

00:24:48.960 --> 00:24:51.960
here of Port Melbourne. I'm the founder

00:24:52.080 --> 00:24:55.080
of Port Phip Pooches, a group of over

00:24:55.120 --> 00:24:57.816
over 2,000 Port Phillip residents and

00:24:57.840 --> 00:25:00.616
dog owners. Um, and I'm a member of the

00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:03.176
COP Dog Network steering committee as

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well. If you can hear snoring in the

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background tonight, I assure you it's

00:25:07.600 --> 00:25:10.056
not me. That would be George, my French

00:25:10.080 --> 00:25:12.376
bulldog. He's never been one to listen

00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:15.400
to me, but he's sure as keen to see

00:25:15.679 --> 00:25:18.679
action in our open spaces.

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Having reviewed the recommendations, I

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did want to make one general remark on

00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:26.535
the recommendations

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and that is that the dog off leash

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guidelines call for no net loss of dog

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off leash spaces. But we also need to

00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:37.960
ensure that open spaces remain equitable

00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:41.255
in access for everybody.

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As an example, if council is investing

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in significant sport and recreation

00:25:47.360 --> 00:25:49.576
infrastructure for shared grounds such

00:25:49.600 --> 00:25:52.600
as Lagoon Reserve, which increases

00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:55.576
access to organized sport, there is a

00:25:55.600 --> 00:25:58.216
net loss of access that happens for dog

00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:01.240
owners that needs to be considered.

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Similarly, shared grounds also need to

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be safe and accessible for everyone,

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which means that dog off leash areas

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near hightra um roads or or busy areas

00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:17.655
need to be fenced.

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I welcome the following recommendations.

00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:23.655
 the change to fennel  reserve to

00:26:23.679 --> 00:26:26.679
off leash. SS Anderson sports ground to

00:26:27.120 --> 00:26:29.336
remain off leash.

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um and the the extend extending the

00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:34.936
summer access to the two beaches and

00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:37.960
Northport Oval being on leash. I agree

00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:41.015
with Louisa and Terry who spoke

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previously regarding the urge to

00:26:43.120 --> 00:26:45.496
consider fencing that corner at

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Williamstown Road and Graeme Street to

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ensure that equitable and safe use for

00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:54.200
dog owners as an off leash dog area.

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In regards to how Cresant West, I would

00:26:58.480 --> 00:27:00.775
urge council to proceed in line with

00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.655
community feedback and re recommend it

00:27:03.679 --> 00:27:06.679
be changed to dog off leash. I

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understand that there's been a

00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:11.480
recommendation to consider ANZAC gardens

00:27:11.679 --> 00:27:14.679
for exploration. However,

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given that Memorial Hall conservation

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management plan that was constructed in

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2021 and the heritage overlay there,

00:27:23.760 --> 00:27:26.135
existing buildings and infrastructure,

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this looks to me to be a complex and

00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:31.480
very long-term project and we need

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solutions now.

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I'm going to have to ask you to wrap up,

00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:35.736
please.

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Thank you. That's it. Thank you.

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Thank you. Great. Thank you. Do we want

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to go online? All right. We're going to

00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:44.440
go for still online.  Peter Holland.

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Hi, Peter.

00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:55.096
Maybe not. All right, let's go to

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Michelle Watson who's in person. Hi,

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Michelle.

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If you could state your name and suburb

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and then got a bit over two minutes.

00:28:07.120 --> 00:28:09.096
 good evening counselors. My name is

00:28:09.120 --> 00:28:12.120
Michelle  Watson from Silda. I'm a

00:28:12.559 --> 00:28:14.056
lifelong

00:28:14.080 --> 00:28:16.296
fifth generation Sincilda resident and

00:28:16.320 --> 00:28:19.255
dog owner. My mother Margaret Watson

00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:21.255
successfully campaigned for the Silda

00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:24.279
dog beach over 15 years ago.  I signed

00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:27.176
the petition last year and completed the

00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:29.496
have your say survey earlier this year

00:28:29.520 --> 00:28:31.655
supporting Robinson Reserve becoming a

00:28:31.679 --> 00:28:34.679
fenced off leash dog area.

00:28:35.120 --> 00:28:38.120
 Mooran is too small, weirdly shaped

00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:41.655
and overcrowded. We do not need council

00:28:41.679 --> 00:28:44.679
to provide such a poor resource again.

00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:47.976
Robinson Reserve doesn't need much for

00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:51.000
it to become a usable community space.

00:28:51.520 --> 00:28:54.216
Fencing, water bowls, some low-level

00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:57.015
vegetation that does not restrict sight

00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:00.039
lines of our fur babies. Um this space

00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:03.255
is rarely used by anyone because of its

00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:04.856
current location.

00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.816
Sorry, not current, just location. Um,

00:29:07.840 --> 00:29:10.216
so why not turn it into a resource that

00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:13.240
the community has shown support for? Of

00:29:14.320 --> 00:29:16.936
the 80% who responded to the council's

00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:19.336
have your say survey and supported their

00:29:19.360 --> 00:29:22.360
proposal, 2th3s live or work locally.

00:29:23.760 --> 00:29:26.760
Council has 1.5 million budget for three

00:29:27.679 --> 00:29:30.056
additional spaces. This would be a great

00:29:30.080 --> 00:29:32.775
use of a reserve that deserves much

00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:35.655
better. Thank you.

00:29:35.679 --> 00:29:38.296
Thank you, Michelle. , and then

00:29:38.320 --> 00:29:41.320
Annabal Jones,

00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:47.096
if you could state your name and

00:29:47.120 --> 00:29:49.336
suburban again. You've got two minutes.

00:29:49.360 --> 00:29:51.895
Thank you. Here we are 12 months on.

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Good evening, Mayor. Good evening,

00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:54.936
councilors. My name is Annabal Jones.

00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:56.696
I'm from Port Melbourne. I'm also a

00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:58.775
member of the COPD dog network. In the

00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:01.015
spirit of time tonight, I'll just focus

00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:03.176
on two recommendations. Robertson

00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:05.336
Reserve in Elwood and how Cresant West

00:30:05.360 --> 00:30:08.216
in South Melbourne. Um you guys should

00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:10.616
have some handouts there um showing the

00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:13.640
quantity of data from the surveys. Given

00:30:14.399 --> 00:30:17.399
the open space team's due diligence on

00:30:17.520 --> 00:30:19.576
these two areas prior to going to

00:30:19.600 --> 00:30:21.655
community and the results of the

00:30:21.679 --> 00:30:24.679
community, we respectfully ask that you

00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:27.655
these areas now be approved. We strongly

00:30:27.679 --> 00:30:30.679
support Robinson Reserve still becoming

00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:33.960
a fenced dogs off leash area. In

00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:37.336
recommendations 4.27,

00:30:37.360 --> 00:30:40.135
the data appears to be misread. The

00:30:40.159 --> 00:30:43.159
survey shows 80% support for this space.

00:30:43.679 --> 00:30:46.679
And of that 80%, 65%

00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:50.440
live near the area or use the area. With

00:30:51.600 --> 00:30:54.056
proper fencing, similar to the

00:30:54.080 --> 00:30:55.416
playgrounds in the middle of Dank

00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:56.936
Street, which are in the photographs of

00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.816
the handouts, this reserve could be

00:30:59.840 --> 00:31:02.056
utilized safely.

00:31:02.080 --> 00:31:04.056
Before ruling against this reserve, we

00:31:04.080 --> 00:31:06.135
propose that this reserve and any

00:31:06.159 --> 00:31:07.976
alternatives be put to community

00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:10.135
consultation.

00:31:10.159 --> 00:31:12.535
House Street West. The survey also

00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:15.559
strongly shows community support with

00:31:15.919 --> 00:31:18.919
64% of the respondents living close or

00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:21.895
actively using this park. I've spoken

00:31:21.919 --> 00:31:23.976
directly to animal management regarding

00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:27.000
incidents and house cresant west. Since

00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.535
December 2024, there have been six

00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.416
active patrols with only three

00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:36.135
infringements for dogs off leave. And

00:31:36.159 --> 00:31:38.216
they've only received one formal

00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:41.240
complaint about dogs being off given the

00:31:41.919 --> 00:31:44.135
shortage of off leash spaces in South

00:31:44.159 --> 00:31:46.456
Melbourne and considering investigating

00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:48.616
the alternative such as Anset Gardens

00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:51.640
could take a further 12 to 15 months. We

00:31:52.399 --> 00:31:54.775
propose that how Cresant West be

00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:57.576
approved as an off leash dog area even

00:31:57.600 --> 00:32:00.456
if temporary. This could proceed without

00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:02.856
fencing keeping cost to a minimum with

00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:05.880
only a change to signage. Both Robertson

00:32:06.080 --> 00:32:08.135
Reserve and how Cresant West represent

00:32:08.159 --> 00:32:10.456
opportunities to respond to strong

00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:12.216
community and provide safe and

00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.535
accessible spaces for dogs and their

00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:17.336
owners. Finally, I'd like to say thank

00:32:17.360 --> 00:32:20.360
you for the approving the extended beach

00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:24.279
times, fennel dog reserve, and various

00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:26.296
other areas that you considered and

00:32:26.320 --> 00:32:28.856
surveyed. Thanks for your time. Thank

00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:30.775
you very much.

00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:33.799
Um, moving on to item 11.2, which is the

00:32:34.080 --> 00:32:36.296
Balaca and East Kilda urban forest

00:32:36.320 --> 00:32:38.936
precinct plan. Helen Holidayiday, oh,

00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:40.936
there you are, Helen. Um, if you could

00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:42.375
state your name and suburb, and then

00:32:42.399 --> 00:32:44.936
you've got two minutes, please.

00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:47.495
 thank you madame Mayor. My name is

00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:50.135
Helen Holidayiday and I'm here to talk

00:32:50.159 --> 00:32:53.159
about the urban forest strategy.  I'm

00:32:54.159 --> 00:32:57.159
I'm speaking on behalf of um the BGI

00:32:58.320 --> 00:33:01.320
group in which is part of Pan which also

00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:04.056
has quite a number of members  not

00:33:04.080 --> 00:33:07.080
always here but still articulate. Um

00:33:07.279 --> 00:33:10.279
we'd like to re to commend the council

00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:13.640
for the finalization of the urban forest

00:33:13.679 --> 00:33:15.976
strategy and the precinct plans for

00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:19.000
Bellaclava and St. Kilder East.  it

00:33:19.360 --> 00:33:22.360
it's um been a wonderful thing to to see

00:33:23.120 --> 00:33:25.495
the progress of this particular project.

00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:28.135
It's took taken about five years I

00:33:28.159 --> 00:33:30.696
believe and  it's one of the few

00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.015
projects where the project manager Jen

00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:36.039
Witch has remained on board and on on on

00:33:37.760 --> 00:33:40.296
scope  for the entirety of that

00:33:40.320 --> 00:33:42.216
period. So we'd like to give her

00:33:42.240 --> 00:33:45.240
particular thanks in that regard. Um

00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:49.000
we'd also like to to point out that 

00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:52.279
the next stage of the of the elicate

00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.720
will reserve is now underway which is

00:33:55.840 --> 00:33:58.216
also going to be of huge benefit to the

00:33:58.240 --> 00:34:01.015
City of Port Phillip and I'd like to

00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:04.039
make some two two requests. , one

00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:07.880
relates to the provision of protocols

00:34:07.919 --> 00:34:10.919
for any changes in in um streetscapes so

00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:15.639
that we avoid some of the more apparent

00:34:16.000 --> 00:34:19.000
um concerns that people have when 

00:34:19.760 --> 00:34:22.760
trees are unexpectedly planted. Um, and

00:34:23.520 --> 00:34:26.520
I'd also like to ask that the

00:34:26.560 --> 00:34:29.560
consideration be given to to a broader

00:34:29.839 --> 00:34:32.839
diverse species of um the genus quirkus

00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:37.000
which has got 400 sorry the  yeah the

00:34:37.919 --> 00:34:40.919
genus quirkus it's got 400 species as

00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:43.976
opposed to plain trees which has got

00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.776
four species. In other words  the

00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:49.800
quirkus is likely to be much more

00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:53.000
robust.  the choice of plants can be

00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:56.760
much more specific to the area and it

00:34:57.520 --> 00:35:00.520
and yet on the record we've only got um

00:35:01.359 --> 00:35:04.359
four species and finally I would like to

00:35:04.640 --> 00:35:07.640
suggest that um that the any money that

00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:11.736
comes as a result of the sale of coals

00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:14.760
be redirected to this area to enhance

00:35:15.119 --> 00:35:18.119
the the provision of um  of both the

00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:22.599
open space and much better street

00:35:23.040 --> 00:35:26.040
streetcapes and and trees.

00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:27.496
Thank you, madame.

00:35:27.520 --> 00:35:30.376
Thank you, Helen. And finally, on item

00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:32.696
11.3, which is the ministerial referral

00:35:32.720 --> 00:35:35.720
for planning scheme amendment C28 port.

00:35:36.160 --> 00:35:39.160
Um, Michael Hurst.

00:35:42.240 --> 00:35:43.416
Hi, Michael. If you could state your

00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.095
name and suburb and you've got two two

00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:46.136
minutes.

00:35:46.160 --> 00:35:47.976
No problems. , thank you madam chair

00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:49.976
and councilors for having me. I am

00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:51.496
speaking

00:35:51.520 --> 00:35:53.496
 not from the City of Port Phillip but

00:35:53.520 --> 00:35:56.520
on behalf of our client in favour of

00:35:57.680 --> 00:36:00.680
amendment C218 port. Um we'd also like

00:36:01.200 --> 00:36:02.776
to extend our thanks to the department

00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:04.456
of transport and planning the

00:36:04.480 --> 00:36:06.616
fisherman's ben task force who have been

00:36:06.640 --> 00:36:08.696
instrumental in this application process

00:36:08.720 --> 00:36:10.456
to date.

00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:12.136
I'm presenting today on behalf of the

00:36:12.160 --> 00:36:15.160
development proponents NOMB RMN who are

00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:16.936
seeking approval for a mixeduse

00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:19.960
development at 264 to 270 Nomi Road,

00:36:21.520 --> 00:36:24.456
South Melbourne. The proponent is a

00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:26.456
local with demonstrated experience in

00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.456
delivering mixeduse developments of

00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:30.136
scale.

00:36:30.160 --> 00:36:32.456
To preface my short discussion and

00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:34.696
presentation, I would like to note that

00:36:34.720 --> 00:36:37.720
the recommendation before council is a

00:36:38.320 --> 00:36:40.296
result of an extensive and highly

00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:42.136
collaborative pre-lodgement and

00:36:42.160 --> 00:36:45.160
assessment process without with council

00:36:46.480 --> 00:36:49.480
officers DTP the task force alike.

00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.016
It includes several workshops and a lot

00:36:53.040 --> 00:36:54.856
of broader correspondence with referral

00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:57.095
authorities.

00:36:57.119 --> 00:36:59.416
The amendment is also informed by a full

00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.440
suite of consultant inputs that are

00:37:02.560 --> 00:37:04.776
required to prove up and enable a

00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:07.575
project of this scale. To this end, it

00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:09.896
is a finely tuned and highly considered

00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:12.616
design response that our client is able

00:37:12.640 --> 00:37:15.335
to advance to design detail, building

00:37:15.359 --> 00:37:18.055
permit consent, tendering, and

00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:21.079
construction with confidence.

00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:24.280
The proposal aligns with the objectives

00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:26.856
of the fisherman's band planning

00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:28.936
framework and has been tailored to

00:37:28.960 --> 00:37:30.616
directly respond to the streetscape

00:37:30.640 --> 00:37:32.456
condition.

00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:34.376
Should council resolve to support this

00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:37.016
proposal, it will be supporting a

00:37:37.040 --> 00:37:38.536
development that provides much neededed

00:37:38.560 --> 00:37:40.776
housing in one, two, and threebedroom

00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:42.696
apartment typologies,

00:37:42.720 --> 00:37:44.936
affordable housing provision and a

00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:46.616
further provision of social housing

00:37:46.640 --> 00:37:48.296
under the dwelling density uplift

00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:49.976
requirement.

00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:51.976
It will also be supporting best practice

00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.000
ESD ESD outcomes and an adaptable

00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:57.496
residential floor plates that allow for

00:37:57.520 --> 00:37:59.815
the retrofitting of apartment typologies

00:37:59.839 --> 00:38:01.736
to meet future demand and changing

00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:03.736
apartment needs.

00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:05.736
Thank you.

00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:07.736
 councilors that ends the public

00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:10.760
section of question time. So  we will

00:38:11.359 --> 00:38:14.296
now move to councelor question time. So

00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:16.376
councilors are there any questions you'd

00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:18.616
like to raise? Councelor Consol.

00:38:18.640 --> 00:38:20.536
Thank you all. This is dog related. I

00:38:20.560 --> 00:38:23.560
don't think it's to the item 11.1. 

00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:26.216
I'd like to ask a question for an or in

00:38:26.240 --> 00:38:27.575
general about an update to the new

00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:29.335
signage for our dog parks and on the

00:38:29.359 --> 00:38:32.359
foreshore. Please

00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:35.400
Dana Pritchard.

00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:39.256
 through you, Mayor. Over the last few

00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:41.176
months, we've been um doing audits on

00:38:41.200 --> 00:38:42.856
all of our signage right across the

00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:44.456
municipality. That includes the

00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:46.936
foreshore. Um, we're now in the final

00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:49.736
stages of designing those signs and

00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:52.760
we'll bring them to council before they

00:38:52.880 --> 00:38:55.880
put out in the public. We are aiming to

00:38:56.160 --> 00:38:58.936
have all the foreshore signs um, put up

00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.496
before summer begins. Um, but we're

00:39:01.520 --> 00:39:03.335
waiting for the outcome of the meeting

00:39:03.359 --> 00:39:05.335
tonight before rolling out the full

00:39:05.359 --> 00:39:07.896
suite of signs.

00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:10.920
Great. Any further council questions?

00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.376
If not, we shall move on to six, which

00:39:16.400 --> 00:39:17.815
is the ceiling schedule, of which we

00:39:17.839 --> 00:39:20.839
have none. , item seven is petitions

00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:22.856
and joint letters, and we don't have any

00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:25.880
tonight. So, let's move to 8 to 14,

00:39:25.920 --> 00:39:28.920
which is the presentation of reports.

00:39:29.520 --> 00:39:32.376
So, 11.1, which is the dog off leash

00:39:32.400 --> 00:39:34.456
area changes.

00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:36.376
So, councils, we obviously heard from

00:39:36.400 --> 00:39:37.976
the public on this one. Do we have any

00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:40.376
questions for the officers? Councelor

00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:43.400
Consol or

00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:46.920
I got quite a few.  so with pitch one

00:39:47.839 --> 00:39:50.839
or SS Anderson and um Northport for

00:39:51.680 --> 00:39:54.680
example, why were these  included

00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:57.095
along the process being recommended to

00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.119
be dog restricted?

00:40:00.640 --> 00:40:03.016
Claire, that's for you.

00:40:03.040 --> 00:40:06.040
Oh, sorry. I'm through you Mayor. So

00:40:06.640 --> 00:40:08.216
these sites were included in the

00:40:08.240 --> 00:40:10.376
community engagement process as they are

00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:12.216
specialized sports fields that have a

00:40:12.240 --> 00:40:14.216
premier level playing surface and host

00:40:14.240 --> 00:40:16.776
elite sport. It is difficult to maintain

00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:18.696
these sites to the high standard they

00:40:18.720 --> 00:40:20.536
need to be kept at when dogs are also

00:40:20.560 --> 00:40:23.016
using the site. The change was proposed

00:40:23.040 --> 00:40:24.936
to reduce maintenance on these grounds

00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:27.335
and ensure they are fit for purpose.

00:40:27.359 --> 00:40:29.176
During community engagement, we heard a

00:40:29.200 --> 00:40:30.776
mix of feedback including that dogs

00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:33.176
damage these surfaces and leave waste.

00:40:33.200 --> 00:40:34.776
We also heard that there is a growing

00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:36.616
demand for dogs to be off leash in

00:40:36.640 --> 00:40:38.376
Fisherman's Ben due to the increasing

00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:41.176
dog population. Council officers have

00:40:41.200 --> 00:40:42.936
recommended not making any changes to

00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:44.696
these sites at this stage to ensure

00:40:44.720 --> 00:40:46.536
there is minimal loss of green spaces

00:40:46.560 --> 00:40:48.456
for dogs to be off leash in the

00:40:48.480 --> 00:40:50.696
fisherman's ven community and we can

00:40:50.720 --> 00:40:52.216
relook at these spaces in the future

00:40:52.240 --> 00:40:54.136
when new dog off leash areas come online

00:40:54.160 --> 00:40:56.456
in fisherman's bend.

00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:57.656
Thank you. Another question.

00:40:57.680 --> 00:40:59.496
Yeah, follow up. So some of the comments

00:40:59.520 --> 00:41:01.575
tonight talked about things that are not

00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:03.256
exactly in the office's recommendation

00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:05.016
and I know that when we go to community

00:41:05.040 --> 00:41:06.376
engagement and then what we can do on

00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:07.815
the back side of that can be a bit

00:41:07.839 --> 00:41:10.839
tricky. So some suggestions were a trial

00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:14.280
for just off leash for how Cresant West

00:41:15.119 --> 00:41:17.656
not fenced. There was also about

00:41:17.680 --> 00:41:19.575
investigating Anzac Reserve which I see

00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:22.599
is recommended there but um and Port

00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.176
Orman Reserve. What is the process on

00:41:25.200 --> 00:41:27.335
these ones? Could they if we said yes

00:41:27.359 --> 00:41:30.136
tonight, if we voted those up, what when

00:41:30.160 --> 00:41:33.160
would those be available?

00:41:34.319 --> 00:41:35.736
Maybe you should stay in the chair,

00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:38.055
Claire, for a moment.

00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:40.696
I'll get comfortable through you, Mayor.

00:41:40.720 --> 00:41:43.335
So, it depends on the site. So, for how

00:41:43.359 --> 00:41:45.496
Crescent Reserve West, because this was

00:41:45.520 --> 00:41:47.176
included in the community engagement

00:41:47.200 --> 00:41:49.815
process, our lawyers have confirmed that

00:41:49.839 --> 00:41:52.055
this could be changed immediately as

00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:53.736
it's gone through the natural justice

00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:56.760
process. um for Anzac Gardens or any

00:41:57.200 --> 00:41:59.416
other sites that weren't identified in

00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.416
the community engagement that was

00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:03.335
conducted in March and April, we would

00:42:03.359 --> 00:42:06.359
need to go back to community engagement.

00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:08.776
Okay. Thank you.

00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:10.376
Um so I'm going to council make and then

00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:11.575
I'll come to councelor Buckingham.

00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:13.016
I do have one more. That's

00:42:13.040 --> 00:42:15.976
Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Obviously,

00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:17.976
there's a number of recommendations

00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:21.000
before us. Looking specifically at 

00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:24.216
the Port Melbourne Fisherman's Band

00:42:24.240 --> 00:42:25.736
locality.

00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:27.656
If we accept the recommendations before

00:42:27.680 --> 00:42:30.680
us, will there be a net increase of dog

00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:33.880
off leash space for dogs?

00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:35.736
Claire,

00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:37.496
through you, Mayor. So the

00:42:37.520 --> 00:42:39.656
recommendation as it's currently written

00:42:39.680 --> 00:42:42.216
would propose to reduce approximately

00:42:42.240 --> 00:42:44.055
6,800

00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:46.295
800 square meters of dog off leash green

00:42:46.319 --> 00:42:48.376
space by restricting dogs from pitch

00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:51.400
three. However, the offset would be

00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:54.856
transforming approximately 5,000 square

00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:57.416
meters of dog on leash space by making

00:42:57.440 --> 00:43:00.216
Fennel Reserve a fence dog park. There

00:43:00.240 --> 00:43:03.240
would also be an additional 350 m length

00:43:03.839 --> 00:43:06.616
of beach along Port Melbourne as well as

00:43:06.640 --> 00:43:08.696
an additional 300 m length of beach

00:43:08.720 --> 00:43:10.616
along Elwood. It's hard to quantify

00:43:10.640 --> 00:43:13.640
these spaces due to the shift in tide.

00:43:13.680 --> 00:43:16.295
Um it would also deliver one new fence

00:43:16.319 --> 00:43:18.536
dog park in the municipality which would

00:43:18.560 --> 00:43:20.776
increase our fence dog parks from two to

00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:23.176
three by making Fennel Reserve a fence

00:43:23.200 --> 00:43:25.815
dog park. Um this is the first in a

00:43:25.839 --> 00:43:28.216
rolling program of new fence dog parks

00:43:28.240 --> 00:43:29.896
which are committed under the council

00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:32.616
plan over the next 5 years.

00:43:32.640 --> 00:43:35.416
Sorry just to further clarify if we

00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:37.416
accept the recommendation and therefore

00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:40.440
retain pitch one that would be you know

00:43:40.640 --> 00:43:43.335
retaining space as well for dogs on top

00:43:43.359 --> 00:43:46.359
of fennel fennel reserve 2 which would

00:43:46.640 --> 00:43:49.575
negate then the loss of the synthetic

00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:51.896
pitch which is unsuitable for dogs being

00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:54.616
a synthetic ground. through. You may

00:43:54.640 --> 00:43:57.640
guess that would be correct.

00:43:57.760 --> 00:44:00.760
Councelor Buckingham,

00:44:03.839 --> 00:44:05.815
I'm particularly interested in the dog

00:44:05.839 --> 00:44:08.839
spaces around Elwood and the um

00:44:09.040 --> 00:44:10.856
recommendation that Robinson's Reserve

00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:13.880
is not appropriate for as an off leash

00:44:14.319 --> 00:44:17.319
park. Could you please  describe the

00:44:17.680 --> 00:44:19.496
safety concerns around Robinson's

00:44:19.520 --> 00:44:22.520
Reserve?

00:44:23.119 --> 00:44:23.896
Claire

00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:25.656
through you Mayor. So following

00:44:25.680 --> 00:44:27.656
community engagement feedback, council

00:44:27.680 --> 00:44:29.976
officers reviewed Robinson Reserve

00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:32.295
against the guideline. What we heard

00:44:32.319 --> 00:44:34.136
both during the community engagement

00:44:34.160 --> 00:44:36.136
process and our review of the guideline

00:44:36.160 --> 00:44:38.856
is that the safety concerns around the

00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:41.880
dogs being um the park being adjacent to

00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:44.376
Marine Parade and Glenn Huntley Road.

00:44:44.400 --> 00:44:46.536
poor pedestrian accessibility given that

00:44:46.560 --> 00:44:49.095
the reserve is bordered by four roads.

00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:52.119
Um, two being quite major roads. Um, the

00:44:52.640 --> 00:44:54.856
significant traffic noise impeding a

00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:57.880
dog's recall. Um, and that this would

00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:00.776
require significant fencing, um, double

00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:03.800
gates, things like that.

00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:08.936
to do a similar analysis of the  point

00:45:08.960 --> 00:45:11.960
Orman space on the other side of 

00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:13.976
Marine Parade.

00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:16.055
Do you have a sense of how much time

00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:19.079
that would take

00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:22.055
through? You may officers would need to

00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:23.815
review the site against the guideline

00:45:23.839 --> 00:45:25.256
and we would then need to go out to

00:45:25.280 --> 00:45:27.256
community engagement because we didn't

00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:28.776
run this site through the community

00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:31.800
engagement process. um it could be done

00:45:32.160 --> 00:45:34.856
fairly quickly depending on how quickly

00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.176
we go out to community engagement and

00:45:37.200 --> 00:45:39.335
how that would um fit in with the time

00:45:39.359 --> 00:45:42.359
frames around Christmas.

00:45:42.400 --> 00:45:45.400
Yeah.  councelor J.

00:45:46.560 --> 00:45:49.560
Um there's a lot of  interest in how

00:45:50.319 --> 00:45:53.319
Cresant Reserve West um obviously

00:45:54.319 --> 00:45:57.016
um the figures look like there was

00:45:57.040 --> 00:45:59.496
majority support for it. So can you

00:45:59.520 --> 00:46:02.520
maybe speak a little bit to

00:46:03.040 --> 00:46:06.040
why the officers haven't um  supported

00:46:07.200 --> 00:46:10.055
that option? Um we also have had you

00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:12.136
know obviously tried to find as many

00:46:12.160 --> 00:46:15.160
nearby parks as possible. So with ANZAC

00:46:15.200 --> 00:46:17.335
now into consideration just because of

00:46:17.359 --> 00:46:20.359
its natural natural position. Um

00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:24.696
can you

00:46:24.720 --> 00:46:26.616
I mean obviously we want dog parks but

00:46:26.640 --> 00:46:29.016
we're so short on green space full stop.

00:46:29.040 --> 00:46:32.040
Um can you maybe just explain um a

00:46:32.160 --> 00:46:34.216
little bit the offic's thought process

00:46:34.240 --> 00:46:37.240
behind um how cresant and being with

00:46:37.520 --> 00:46:39.416
fencing without fencing and what that

00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:40.136
looks like.

00:46:40.160 --> 00:46:43.160
Back to you cla

00:46:43.680 --> 00:46:46.680
through you Mayor. So through following

00:46:46.880 --> 00:46:48.936
community engagement when we reviewed

00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:51.960
all the feedback there was a 60 62%

00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.335
level of support. However when we drill

00:46:55.359 --> 00:46:57.416
down into the data over one-third of

00:46:57.440 --> 00:46:59.575
these responses came from people who

00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:01.736
don't live near the reserve or have a

00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:04.055
connection to the reserve don't use it.

00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:06.295
Um, we heard a lot of the local

00:47:06.319 --> 00:47:08.216
community who live within a 10-minute

00:47:08.240 --> 00:47:10.295
walk or own a property or business

00:47:10.319 --> 00:47:12.376
within a 10-minute walk that they have

00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:14.376
concerns about the amenity impacts of

00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:17.400
the reserve. Um we reviewed this site

00:47:17.680 --> 00:47:19.815
against the guideline and our

00:47:19.839 --> 00:47:22.216
recommendation is based on

00:47:22.240 --> 00:47:23.976
recommendation of not changing the site

00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:26.136
is based on the location to exist

00:47:26.160 --> 00:47:28.776
existing residential dwellings that it's

00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.176
located within a heritage overlay and

00:47:31.200 --> 00:47:33.656
safety concerns for dogs as the reserve

00:47:33.680 --> 00:47:36.680
is adjacent to a tram line. The space is

00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:39.095
quite small. It's very similar in size

00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:41.736
to Eastern Reserve North where we have

00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:44.216
experienced a lot of amenity issues and

00:47:44.240 --> 00:47:45.815
we've got quite a few mitigation

00:47:45.839 --> 00:47:47.976
measures in place in that reserve

00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:50.616
including um locking and unlocking of

00:47:50.640 --> 00:47:53.640
the gates every morning and evening.

00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:56.696
We could look at making the space a dog

00:47:56.720 --> 00:47:58.616
or off leash area without a fence if

00:47:58.640 --> 00:48:00.456
that is something that councilors would

00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:02.696
like to consider and that can occur

00:48:02.720 --> 00:48:05.016
immediately as the community engagement

00:48:05.040 --> 00:48:06.856
process has satisfied the requirements

00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:09.880
under the council order.

00:48:10.480 --> 00:48:13.480
Did you have a follow-up?

00:48:13.520 --> 00:48:16.216
Yeah, I mean my biggest concern is the

00:48:16.240 --> 00:48:18.456
data. I I door knocked that area for 4

00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:20.376
and 1/2 hours and there was such a

00:48:20.400 --> 00:48:23.400
strong um  rejection of having that as

00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:27.256
a a fence dog park and I've obviously

00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:29.095
gone back to try and get some local

00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:31.656
information and um they're just as

00:48:31.680 --> 00:48:34.216
superbly freaked out as an offense dog

00:48:34.240 --> 00:48:36.696
park as well. It's a hard situation. I

00:48:36.720 --> 00:48:37.815
mean got one

00:48:37.839 --> 00:48:38.776
I'm just going to ask is there a

00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:39.256
question?

00:48:39.280 --> 00:48:39.656
No.

00:48:39.680 --> 00:48:41.176
No.

00:48:41.200 --> 00:48:43.016
Council

00:48:43.040 --> 00:48:45.016
Min,

00:48:45.040 --> 00:48:47.095
what would a trial look like in terms of

00:48:47.119 --> 00:48:49.575
practicality if we were to look at a

00:48:49.599 --> 00:48:51.736
potential for a trial and let's say we

00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:54.295
then went through the consultation for

00:48:54.319 --> 00:48:56.376
Anzac Gardens and hypothetically that

00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:58.535
was favoured. What would it look like

00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:01.559
from a practical perspective in then

00:49:01.680 --> 00:49:04.680
shifting that trial  to Anzac Gardens?

00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:08.696
CLA

00:49:08.720 --> 00:49:10.936
through you Mayor. So that is something

00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:12.856
that council officers would need to work

00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.880
with council on. To trial a dog or leash

00:49:15.920 --> 00:49:17.736
area, we would still need to go through

00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:19.815
the same process of amending the council

00:49:19.839 --> 00:49:21.815
order. So effectively, it's the same as

00:49:21.839 --> 00:49:24.376
designating a space permanently. We

00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:26.616
would need to seek advice from um

00:49:26.640 --> 00:49:28.535
council's lawyer about how you would

00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:31.335
then potentially resend. I assume it's

00:49:31.359 --> 00:49:33.575
through the same process as um

00:49:33.599 --> 00:49:35.736
rescending a designation like we

00:49:35.760 --> 00:49:38.456
recommending tonight. Um, separate to

00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:40.616
their statutory process of amending the

00:49:40.640 --> 00:49:42.535
council order, council would need to

00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:44.776
determine assessment criteria and

00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:47.016
measures of success prior to commencing

00:49:47.040 --> 00:49:49.256
a trial so that we could be really clear

00:49:49.280 --> 00:49:51.256
to the community how the trial would be

00:49:51.280 --> 00:49:54.280
reviewed. Um, in the context of how

00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:57.095
Crescent Reserve West, we would not be

00:49:57.119 --> 00:50:00.119
recommending changes even as a trial due

00:50:00.160 --> 00:50:02.295
to the safety risks without a fence in

00:50:02.319 --> 00:50:03.815
place.

00:50:03.839 --> 00:50:05.656
Councelor

00:50:05.680 --> 00:50:08.680
Jay. Um I'm not comfortable going

00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:11.575
through to a trial without actually um

00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:13.496
going back to consultation with the

00:50:13.520 --> 00:50:15.976
residents. I think that's the thing

00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:18.776
here. It's all good. Um you know

00:50:18.800 --> 00:50:21.016
approving amenities, but the people that

00:50:21.040 --> 00:50:22.696
are immediately affected and have the

00:50:22.720 --> 00:50:24.856
biggest fear around safety in this

00:50:24.880 --> 00:50:26.856
location both for themselves and the

00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:29.880
dogs. Um what would it look like? Could

00:50:29.920 --> 00:50:32.616
we go out and consult when we're

00:50:32.640 --> 00:50:35.640
consulting with ANZAC about this being

00:50:35.839 --> 00:50:38.839
an unfenced offly dog park and going

00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:41.880
back that way

00:50:43.040 --> 00:50:45.496
through you may council are supportive

00:50:45.520 --> 00:50:47.815
of that recommendation. We can look at

00:50:47.839 --> 00:50:50.535
running an engagement piece on any other

00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:52.376
sites that haven't been considered as

00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:54.616
part of the March and April consultation

00:50:54.640 --> 00:50:56.936
process this year and we can look at how

00:50:56.960 --> 00:50:59.896
we can um make that a priority for

00:50:59.920 --> 00:51:02.920
council officers to start that program.

00:51:02.960 --> 00:51:04.936
Council Min,

00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:06.776
there's obviously understandably

00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:09.016
concerned from community around the time

00:51:09.040 --> 00:51:11.416
some of this stuff takes.

00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:13.335
If we go through further consultation

00:51:13.359 --> 00:51:14.936
around other reserves, would there

00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:17.575
practically be a delay in terms of the

00:51:17.599 --> 00:51:19.496
budgetary allocation, the time required

00:51:19.520 --> 00:51:22.136
to fence those etc. given obviously the

00:51:22.160 --> 00:51:25.160
pipeline of some of the other off leash

00:51:25.200 --> 00:51:28.200
parks we've identified

00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:31.815
through you may need to look at that

00:51:31.839 --> 00:51:34.136
through our work plan. So fennel reserve

00:51:34.160 --> 00:51:35.976
if that is supported by councilors

00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.616
tonight will be commencing design with

00:51:38.640 --> 00:51:41.416
delivery to occur next financial year.

00:51:41.440 --> 00:51:44.440
Um in terms of timing the guideline was

00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:46.776
adopted almost a year to the day I think

00:51:46.800 --> 00:51:49.256
it was a year tomorrow. We then

00:51:49.280 --> 00:51:51.815
undertook consultation this year. That

00:51:51.839 --> 00:51:54.456
was the fastest we could do it following

00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:56.216
having the guideline adopted in the

00:51:56.240 --> 00:51:58.376
Christmas period. But given that there

00:51:58.400 --> 00:51:59.976
might be less spaces and we've been

00:52:00.000 --> 00:52:01.416
through this process before, we could

00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:04.440
look at how we can do it quicker.

00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:06.776
CEO

00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.800
um through you may think CLA and the

00:52:11.040 --> 00:52:13.176
team will do their very best, but 

00:52:13.200 --> 00:52:14.936
there needs to be a recognition that

00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:17.496
they are a small team. They have a full

00:52:17.520 --> 00:52:19.896
work program.  they not only work look

00:52:19.920 --> 00:52:21.736
after dog leash but they got broader

00:52:21.760 --> 00:52:23.815
responsibilities by public space policy

00:52:23.839 --> 00:52:26.535
and strategy implementation.

00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:29.416
Um and so we would come back with

00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:31.575
options if you wanted to accelerate or

00:52:31.599 --> 00:52:33.335
to add to the work program. We'd come

00:52:33.359 --> 00:52:34.776
back with options about how we would

00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:36.856
resource that but likely we'd have to

00:52:36.880 --> 00:52:38.295
engage some additional support if you

00:52:38.319 --> 00:52:40.776
want to do it faster.

00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:42.456
Or could I ask a followup question or

00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:44.616
something would have to be delayed in

00:52:44.640 --> 00:52:46.696
the re reality it's resourcing and

00:52:46.720 --> 00:52:48.055
capaCity

00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:49.976
through your that's right so we we'd

00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:51.815
come back with options around what could

00:52:51.839 --> 00:52:53.496
we delay

00:52:53.520 --> 00:52:55.815
um or how could we get some additional

00:52:55.839 --> 00:52:58.696
resource to fast to speed things up but

00:52:58.720 --> 00:53:01.176
it is a small team looking after a lot

00:53:01.200 --> 00:53:04.136
of a lot of projects beyond

00:53:04.160 --> 00:53:07.160
um dog off leash um priorities

00:53:09.520 --> 00:53:11.416
I'll ask a question If I may, in our

00:53:11.440 --> 00:53:12.535
commitment to the dog off leash

00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:13.736
guidelines, we never said we could

00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:15.095
deliver it all at once. It was always

00:53:15.119 --> 00:53:17.496
going to be a staged process though.

00:53:17.520 --> 00:53:19.656
That was the kind of commitment. It was

00:53:19.680 --> 00:53:21.815
never a bang, it's all going to be done.

00:53:21.839 --> 00:53:23.896
Can I just check that in? Is my memory

00:53:23.920 --> 00:53:25.896
correct?

00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:27.416
Through you, Mayor. That is correct.

00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:29.335
There was a 2-year implementation plan

00:53:29.359 --> 00:53:32.216
and that was focused around signage and

00:53:32.240 --> 00:53:34.216
also undertaking community engagement

00:53:34.240 --> 00:53:36.535
which we have completed. There is a

00:53:36.559 --> 00:53:38.696
5-year rolling program of delivering new

00:53:38.720 --> 00:53:41.256
fence dog parks that is committed in the

00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:43.416
council plan

00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:45.335
if we can find the land. Okay. Councelor

00:53:45.359 --> 00:53:47.016
Halliday,

00:53:47.040 --> 00:53:48.776
just on that um rolling program of

00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:51.335
fencing,  how much money is allocated

00:53:51.359 --> 00:53:54.295
to that program and what is an

00:53:54.319 --> 00:53:57.256
indicative cost of that sort of fencing

00:53:57.280 --> 00:53:59.976
for a dog park? like and and what would

00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:01.736
something like Robinson Reserve cost

00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:04.055
which might be a more significant um you

00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:07.079
know fencing exercise? Sorry for the

00:54:07.200 --> 00:54:08.376
question without

00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:09.736
Dana Dana Pritchard

00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:12.760
through you Mayor. Um the Emma Moran dog

00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:15.496
park was around um half a million

00:54:15.520 --> 00:54:18.520
dollars to  deliver. Um and that's

00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:21.559
what we're currently basing  our dog

00:54:22.079 --> 00:54:25.079
fenced areas on.  I I can I'll take on

00:54:25.680 --> 00:54:27.176
notice how much we've actually got in

00:54:27.200 --> 00:54:29.736
the budget, but that's that's the

00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:32.295
minimum cost at the moment

00:54:32.319 --> 00:54:33.815
through you.

00:54:33.839 --> 00:54:36.136
Yeah, it will depend on each site. The

00:54:36.160 --> 00:54:38.376
fencing itself

00:54:38.400 --> 00:54:40.456
um we've got, you know, we get we're

00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:42.055
getting better expertise at how we do

00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:43.335
that. But it depends on whether there's

00:54:43.359 --> 00:54:45.496
soil contamination or limitations,

00:54:45.520 --> 00:54:47.976
depends on the underlying um quality of

00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:51.000
the surface and what kind of landscaping

00:54:51.359 --> 00:54:54.359
we need to do. Um I I live in Bayside. I

00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:57.960
recently saw a pop-up  dog trial park,

00:54:59.200 --> 00:55:02.200
but it had existing, you know, trees and

00:55:02.240 --> 00:55:03.815
spaces around it, which have made it a

00:55:03.839 --> 00:55:06.839
bit more potentially a bit more um

00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:09.256
robust. Whereas a lot of the spaces

00:55:09.280 --> 00:55:11.335
we're talking about would require some

00:55:11.359 --> 00:55:12.936
additional reinforcement or additional

00:55:12.960 --> 00:55:15.095
changes in in the landscaping to make

00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:17.815
them robust like Maran Reserve, which

00:55:17.839 --> 00:55:19.335
has taken quite a while for some of that

00:55:19.359 --> 00:55:21.896
landscaping to to bed in.

00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:23.736
Sorry, through you Mayor I can answer

00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:26.376
the question. We've got 1.5 million over

00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:29.400
the next five years towards dog parks.

00:55:29.839 --> 00:55:31.575
Councelor Hardy.

00:55:31.599 --> 00:55:33.575
Yeah. Just off the top of your head, how

00:55:33.599 --> 00:55:35.176
many dogs are registered in the City of

00:55:35.200 --> 00:55:37.016
Port Phillip?

00:55:37.040 --> 00:55:40.040
It's about 8,000, isn't it, Tom?

00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:42.216
8 and a half.

00:55:42.240 --> 00:55:44.216
Through you, Mayor. Around 8,000.

00:55:44.240 --> 00:55:44.856
Thank you.

00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:47.880
How many people?

00:55:48.160 --> 00:55:50.136
All right. Any further questions or we

00:55:50.160 --> 00:55:53.160
have an officer's recommendation

00:55:53.359 --> 00:55:55.176
to someone question

00:55:55.200 --> 00:55:57.896
one more question. So um on six sorry

00:55:57.920 --> 00:55:59.256
we'll pick back up.  in the

00:55:59.280 --> 00:56:01.736
recommendation 3.6 it's saying notes

00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:04.055
that no changes will be made. I'm just

00:56:04.079 --> 00:56:06.295
worried that maybe in the future we

00:56:06.319 --> 00:56:08.216
might want to look at something like

00:56:08.240 --> 00:56:09.896
reserve if it's not being supported

00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:12.920
tonight. Do in 5 years, 10 years, are we

00:56:14.240 --> 00:56:17.240
going to look back and then say it's not

00:56:17.359 --> 00:56:19.176
doable because it wasn't agreed at that

00:56:19.200 --> 00:56:20.775
council meeting? Do we have to change

00:56:20.799 --> 00:56:23.016
any language that just says not now or

00:56:23.040 --> 00:56:25.656
anything that allows us to still look at

00:56:25.680 --> 00:56:28.680
it in the future?

00:56:29.359 --> 00:56:32.136
 through you, Robin, maybe this one's

00:56:32.160 --> 00:56:35.160
for you.

00:56:35.920 --> 00:56:37.736
I'm sorry. Could you I ask you to repeat

00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:38.055
the question?

00:56:38.079 --> 00:56:39.736
Yeah, I'll try to repeat it better as

00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:42.696
well.  so in 3.6 in the recommendation

00:56:42.720 --> 00:56:44.696
it's saying that no changes will be made

00:56:44.720 --> 00:56:46.535
to these current conditions. I'm just

00:56:46.559 --> 00:56:48.616
concerned in say 5 years 10 years if

00:56:48.640 --> 00:56:50.856
it's ever reviewed. It's not seen as a

00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:52.136
decision that we're not going to ever

00:56:52.160 --> 00:56:54.055
look at these but more that we're just

00:56:54.079 --> 00:56:56.616
not looking at them now because there

00:56:56.640 --> 00:56:58.376
could still be another consideration

00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:00.456
later. I didn't know if the language had

00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:03.480
to be just for now or anything.

00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:05.736
 through you may I don't believe that

00:57:05.760 --> 00:57:07.976
we need to be explicit that no further

00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:09.416
changes would be considered in the

00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:11.256
future. If there was a report to council

00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:13.815
in the future proposing changes that

00:57:13.839 --> 00:57:16.295
would naturally override this resolution

00:57:16.319 --> 00:57:18.136
tonight and a future decision of council

00:57:18.160 --> 00:57:20.055
in this space. So I think the wording is

00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:23.079
okay for this evening.

00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:25.656
All right. through through you Mayor

00:57:25.680 --> 00:57:28.376
though if councilors wish to they could

00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:31.016
could say notes that no changes at this

00:57:31.040 --> 00:57:34.040
point in time will be made if you wanted

00:57:34.480 --> 00:57:37.480
to be abundantly clear

00:57:40.880 --> 00:57:43.880
through you may I ask a question

00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:48.760
of officers if given the process

00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:53.079
of making change the gazett until the

00:57:54.000 --> 00:57:56.295
public engagement

00:57:56.319 --> 00:57:57.496
formally need to

00:57:57.520 --> 00:57:59.976
if would if we say there's at the

00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:01.736
conclusion of that process there is no

00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:03.256
change

00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:06.280
would that require another process to be

00:58:06.319 --> 00:58:07.896
run or is there some other way we could

00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:10.295
word this that gives the council the

00:58:10.319 --> 00:58:12.136
option to revisit that without having to

00:58:12.160 --> 00:58:15.160
rerun the process.

00:58:17.760 --> 00:58:20.760
We might

00:58:22.559 --> 00:58:24.055
surely we'd have to we probably have to

00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:26.535
go out again. I imagine because we'd

00:58:26.559 --> 00:58:28.376
have to do it as part of another formal

00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:30.376
process cuz you can't just carry over a

00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:32.775
gazette, can you?

00:58:32.799 --> 00:58:34.216
I'm just saying you can't carry over a

00:58:34.240 --> 00:58:35.656
gazetting.

00:58:35.680 --> 00:58:37.815
Yeah. Through you, Mayor. Um, we'd have

00:58:37.839 --> 00:58:39.896
to double check. It was legal advice

00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:42.920
that we received before. Um our

00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:44.456
understanding is that we would probably

00:58:44.480 --> 00:58:46.136
have to rerun the process again

00:58:46.160 --> 00:58:49.160
regardless.

00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:52.775
A future council can re you know look

00:58:52.799 --> 00:58:54.376
that. All right counselors do we have

00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:57.400
any other questions or can we go to um

00:58:57.599 --> 00:58:59.335
mover and a second for the councelor

00:58:59.359 --> 00:59:00.936
offic's recommendation or something

00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:03.960
different?

00:59:04.319 --> 00:59:06.775
I'm happy to move this one. Do I have a

00:59:06.799 --> 00:59:09.335
seconder

00:59:09.359 --> 00:59:12.359
council min? All right. , I just want

00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:13.656
to say thank you. A lot of the people

00:59:13.680 --> 00:59:16.680
who are um passionate about when we did

00:59:17.040 --> 00:59:18.535
the dog off leash guidelines are here in

00:59:18.559 --> 00:59:20.456
the room tonight and it was it was your

00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:23.256
advocacy and efforts that um kind of got

00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:25.575
to this clarity point. So I think

00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:27.256
finally we've gone out and we've

00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:29.176
gazetted and there will be an increased

00:59:29.200 --> 00:59:31.736
amount particularly on beaches  and a

00:59:31.760 --> 00:59:34.295
new dog off leash fenced park that will

00:59:34.319 --> 00:59:36.616
be created. So um I think this is your

00:59:36.640 --> 00:59:39.640
win tonight. Um we there is obviously

00:59:39.839 --> 00:59:41.736
still future work to do. We haven't got

00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:44.696
there right in Lwood. Um but that's

00:59:44.720 --> 00:59:45.896
okay. There's there's there's an

00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:48.616
adjustments being made to the to  in

00:59:48.640 --> 00:59:50.456
the um recommendation to keep

00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:51.976
investigating and that was always the

00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:54.456
commitment is it was never a a stop

00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:56.456
process. It's a continual process of

00:59:56.480 --> 00:59:58.136
looking and who knows little other

00:59:58.160 --> 00:59:59.815
pockets of lands might magically appear

00:59:59.839 --> 01:00:01.416
that would be suitable that we don't

01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:03.256
know about yet or opportunities that we

01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:05.335
just can't see coming. So I I just want

01:00:05.359 --> 01:00:06.616
to say one of the other things I did

01:00:06.640 --> 01:00:07.896
want to address though when we make

01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:09.896
decisions it's not based on one input.

01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:11.496
It is based on many different inputs.

01:00:11.520 --> 01:00:14.520
It's surveys. It's  officer analysis.

01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:17.176
It's  you know talking to our

01:00:17.200 --> 01:00:19.896
community. It's you know very very many

01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:22.376
different inputs. Um although the survey

01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:24.856
went a certain way it was um we didn't

01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:26.775
hear from a lot of non-dog owners who

01:00:26.799 --> 01:00:28.295
also might have had their say if we were

01:00:28.319 --> 01:00:31.016
really clearly um trying to get a random

01:00:31.040 --> 01:00:33.256
sample. We heard very clearly from the

01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:35.896
the  dog owning and loving community

01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.136
that you wanted more of these spaces and

01:00:38.160 --> 01:00:39.736
that is what we have endeavored to

01:00:39.760 --> 01:00:41.416
deliver and it's always going to be an

01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:42.775
imperfect balance that we have to

01:00:42.799 --> 01:00:44.535
undertake because we do have to balance

01:00:44.559 --> 01:00:46.856
an expensive sports fields and and other

01:00:46.880 --> 01:00:49.416
competing. It is it is an ongoing

01:00:49.440 --> 01:00:52.055
management program of of land use in

01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:54.856
this City where we have limited um space

01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:56.535
but lots of people wanting to use it for

01:00:56.559 --> 01:00:58.376
different purposes. So I think it's a

01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:00.295
really good news story. We're going to

01:01:00.319 --> 01:01:02.216
keep looking. there's more space. It's

01:01:02.240 --> 01:01:03.656
going to be done in time for summer. We

01:01:03.680 --> 01:01:05.736
are we are going to get signs before

01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:08.376
summer. That is a win in itself. Um so I

01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:09.896
I just want to thank officers for all

01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:11.496
the involve thank the community for all

01:01:11.520 --> 01:01:13.656
your advocacy and councilors I urge you

01:01:13.680 --> 01:01:15.575
all urge you to support the offic's

01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:17.896
recommendation. Council Mak

01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:20.295
in Port Melbourne dogs rule and we're

01:01:20.319 --> 01:01:23.319
seeing this in the additional open 

01:01:23.359 --> 01:01:24.775
dog off leash space that will be

01:01:24.799 --> 01:01:27.016
provided through Fennel Reserve as well

01:01:27.040 --> 01:01:29.496
as also retaining the existing spaces

01:01:29.520 --> 01:01:32.520
within Port Melbourne. While we need to

01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:35.496
appreciate local communities and their

01:01:35.520 --> 01:01:37.335
views in other areas in Port Melbourne,

01:01:37.359 --> 01:01:39.176
we are reflecting the views of the

01:01:39.200 --> 01:01:42.200
community and we have a net increase in

01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:44.856
off leash space in Port Melbourne. Port

01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:46.456
Melbourne actually has one of the

01:01:46.480 --> 01:01:48.856
highest proportions of dog ownership 

01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:51.095
in Port Phillip and therefore across the

01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:52.856
country. Port Phillip itself has some of

01:01:52.880 --> 01:01:55.880
the highest levels of dog ownership and

01:01:56.079 --> 01:01:57.976
this is just the start. You know,

01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:01.000
Fisherman's Bend  is coming online. We

01:02:01.200 --> 01:02:03.335
need additional space in Fisherman's

01:02:03.359 --> 01:02:06.295
Band for dogs. This is a start to make

01:02:06.319 --> 01:02:08.616
sure that Port Melbourne, where dogs

01:02:08.640 --> 01:02:11.496
clearly rule, and I assume all the time,

01:02:11.520 --> 01:02:14.216
, continues to have space available

01:02:14.240 --> 01:02:17.240
for our four-legged furry friends. I

01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:20.216
commend the motion.

01:02:20.240 --> 01:02:23.240
Councilors, Councelor Holidayiday.

01:02:23.599 --> 01:02:26.599
, thank you, Mayor. Um, I I will

01:02:27.040 --> 01:02:29.896
support this motion. Um, I think that it

01:02:29.920 --> 01:02:32.920
represents a um a balanced outcome here.

01:02:33.520 --> 01:02:35.896
I just like to pick up on Jen's point

01:02:35.920 --> 01:02:38.696
from earlier when we ask um you know we

01:02:38.720 --> 01:02:40.376
often go out to community consultations

01:02:40.400 --> 01:02:43.095
and we ask dog people whether they would

01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:45.016
like more space for dogs and they say

01:02:45.040 --> 01:02:46.775
yes and we ask sports people whether

01:02:46.799 --> 01:02:48.535
they would like more space for sports

01:02:48.559 --> 01:02:51.496
and they say yes but we never ask um you

01:02:51.520 --> 01:02:53.896
know other people whether they would

01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:56.136
like space for quiet enjoyment of the

01:02:56.160 --> 01:02:59.160
outdoors um and we miss them because

01:02:59.839 --> 01:03:02.696
they're not a big organized group who

01:03:02.720 --> 01:03:05.416
comes to us um begging for open space

01:03:05.440 --> 01:03:08.136
and we see those spaces getting squeezed

01:03:08.160 --> 01:03:11.160
out um you know those normal everyday

01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:13.896
spaces where you could have a picnic or

01:03:13.920 --> 01:03:16.920
just enjoy the  a natural space. Um so

01:03:18.160 --> 01:03:21.160
I think this is a reasonable 

01:03:21.440 --> 01:03:23.815
implementation. Um, but in the future in

01:03:23.839 --> 01:03:25.335
places like Fisherman's Bend, I think

01:03:25.359 --> 01:03:27.976
that we need to consider the that third

01:03:28.000 --> 01:03:30.295
group who we don't talk to, who  are

01:03:30.319 --> 01:03:33.319
not organized, but who do still use and

01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:36.295
benefit um from open spaces? Um so

01:03:36.319 --> 01:03:39.095
again, I will support this.

01:03:39.119 --> 01:03:40.775
Any other counselor wish to speak to the

01:03:40.799 --> 01:03:43.799
motion? Councelor J.

01:03:44.799 --> 01:03:47.095
Um, I've asked myself throughout this

01:03:47.119 --> 01:03:49.656
process, what is the purpose of dog

01:03:49.680 --> 01:03:51.416
parks and what is the purpose of off

01:03:51.440 --> 01:03:54.295
lead dog parks? And I've learned they're

01:03:54.319 --> 01:03:55.736
not just for the dogs or the dog

01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:57.736
walkers. They're just as much a place

01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:00.760
and a space for the owners

01:04:00.799 --> 01:04:03.416
um to meet and a community to build an

01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:06.440
even closer community. Um that's very

01:04:06.880 --> 01:04:09.880
apparent in Peanut Farm Reserve with the

01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:11.976
community there and also in Hester

01:04:12.000 --> 01:04:13.575
Reserve with the light rail in Port

01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:16.055
Melbourne community um who get together

01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:18.295
with cheese and wine and their dogs and

01:04:18.319 --> 01:04:21.015
have more fun than the puppies.  South

01:04:21.039 --> 01:04:22.775
Melbourne absolutely does deserve a

01:04:22.799 --> 01:04:25.799
space like this. Um is it how cresant?

01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:29.880
I'm I'm sad to say no. It isn't. I

01:04:30.720 --> 01:04:32.295
walked the streets for 4 and a half

01:04:32.319 --> 01:04:34.535
hours speaking to residents, speaking to

01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:37.559
dog owners and dog walkers and um I had

01:04:37.839 --> 01:04:39.896
a visceral reaction when I brought up

01:04:39.920 --> 01:04:42.775
how cresant. Um there was absolutely

01:04:42.799 --> 01:04:44.856
zero support from the people that I

01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:46.856
spoke to and limited support from the

01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:49.880
locals in in in the consultation.

01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:52.376
Um although while walking through the

01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:54.456
community I found the other park Anzac

01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:56.535
Gardens Anzac Park which is already

01:04:56.559 --> 01:04:59.559
being used as a dog community and during

01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:01.575
co all the residents met there and they

01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:03.335
even have a plaque on the park bench

01:05:03.359 --> 01:05:04.936
with all their dogs names. It's the

01:05:04.960 --> 01:05:06.775
banjo club and the founding members

01:05:06.799 --> 01:05:09.799
which is really beautiful. I walked into

01:05:09.839 --> 01:05:11.575
this park as the people were having

01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:13.896
birthday cake. There was about 10 locals

01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:15.815
sharing stories, sharing cake and

01:05:15.839 --> 01:05:18.295
sharing drinks. And I spoke to them in

01:05:18.319 --> 01:05:21.319
in very great detail. And it's Anzac

01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:23.896
Park that they want as an off lead dog

01:05:23.920 --> 01:05:26.775
park. The streets are quieter. Um

01:05:26.799 --> 01:05:28.775
they're already using it and it's safer

01:05:28.799 --> 01:05:31.799
for both the dogs and the owners.

01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:34.136
Um the officers have absolutely

01:05:34.160 --> 01:05:36.376
supported the investigation of Anzac

01:05:36.400 --> 01:05:39.400
Park. Um and I'm really hopeful that'll

01:05:40.160 --> 01:05:42.535
get across.  the truth is there's not

01:05:42.559 --> 01:05:44.295
enough green space in South Melbourne

01:05:44.319 --> 01:05:47.015
full stop. Not for people and not for

01:05:47.039 --> 01:05:49.736
dogs. And this is a situation as

01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:51.335
councelor Holidayiday has pointed out

01:05:51.359 --> 01:05:54.359
that how Cresant Reserve um  remains a

01:05:55.200 --> 01:05:57.015
place for for the residents and for the

01:05:57.039 --> 01:05:59.256
people and a quiet space on a sunny day

01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:02.216
and a very limited green space. There

01:06:02.240 --> 01:06:05.240
was absolute hesitation. um at a fully

01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:08.440
fenced um how cresant there was fears

01:06:08.720 --> 01:06:11.720
that it would turn into a a dusty dirt

01:06:12.079 --> 01:06:14.535
fil place just like Eastern Reserve. So

01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:17.559
that was not what we wanted down in

01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:20.920
South Melbourne. Um I have  this is

01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:23.575
one of the hardest ones that I've had

01:06:23.599 --> 01:06:25.335
just considering, you know, the

01:06:25.359 --> 01:06:27.256
passionate people and the dogs and then

01:06:27.280 --> 01:06:29.095
balancing that with the immediate

01:06:29.119 --> 01:06:31.736
community. I will support the offic's

01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:33.736
recommendations, but I absolutely will

01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:35.976
also give everyone my word that while on

01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:39.000
council, I will push and and and support

01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:41.656
new parks both for people and for dogs

01:06:41.680 --> 01:06:44.456
and create more of these communities as

01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:47.176
I know that we're all really keen to do.

01:06:47.200 --> 01:06:49.656
So I will support the offic's

01:06:49.680 --> 01:06:51.736
recommendation on this one and just keep

01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:54.760
an eye on all all the other spaces that

01:06:54.799 --> 01:06:57.496
we can use now and in future and and and

01:06:57.520 --> 01:07:00.216
find the the suitable place for

01:07:00.240 --> 01:07:03.095
everyone. So thank you and thank you to

01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:06.119
the dog network um for meeting with me

01:07:06.319 --> 01:07:08.936
and discussing all our options and the

01:07:08.960 --> 01:07:11.496
pooches of Port Melbourne and and please

01:07:11.520 --> 01:07:13.656
please keep coming and keep on us and

01:07:13.680 --> 01:07:16.680
keep keep um speaking for the dogs. This

01:07:16.720 --> 01:07:19.335
is exactly what we need and we will we

01:07:19.359 --> 01:07:21.256
are responding and we will continue to

01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:22.775
respond. I wish this was a little bit

01:07:22.799 --> 01:07:25.256
more perfect but it's not. Um but we

01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:26.936
know what you want. We know what the

01:07:26.960 --> 01:07:29.960
community wants and we will get there.

01:07:30.319 --> 01:07:31.896
Any other council wish to speak to the

01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:34.920
motion?

01:07:38.319 --> 01:07:41.095
C sorry is councelor Consol.

01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:43.015
Yep. Thank you. Can I say what? Oh,

01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:46.039
go ahead. Sorry.

01:07:46.240 --> 01:07:47.896


01:07:47.920 --> 01:07:49.656
I obviously I've followed everything

01:07:49.680 --> 01:07:51.896
from here and I support what's

01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:54.136
discussed. It's not the end of the

01:07:54.160 --> 01:07:56.775
story. Um I know a lot of dog owners

01:07:56.799 --> 01:07:59.736
having a dog myself and  there's a lot

01:07:59.760 --> 01:08:02.376
of passion out there.  most of the

01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:04.775
people are very responsible and 

01:08:04.799 --> 01:08:07.496
council is there to provide spaces for

01:08:07.520 --> 01:08:10.055
people to enjoy their activities with

01:08:10.079 --> 01:08:11.976
their dogs and I think  you know what

01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:14.535
we decided today is not the end  of

01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:16.936
the journey and there's a lot more to do

01:08:16.960 --> 01:08:19.416
I agree with what just councelor Jay

01:08:19.440 --> 01:08:22.440
just said  it's not the end of  of

01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:25.416
reflection and u but it's a good start

01:08:25.440 --> 01:08:27.896
and good and thanks for everybody who

01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:30.616
has   talked to

01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:33.640
about this very important issue in our

01:08:33.839 --> 01:08:36.839
City.

01:08:37.040 --> 01:08:39.255
All right.  Council Consol,

01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:40.695
thank you. There have been many

01:08:40.719 --> 01:08:42.376
petitions over the years that's resulted

01:08:42.400 --> 01:08:43.976
in this tonight. And I I think there's

01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:45.175
some people who aren't in the room who

01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:46.295
started some of that, but the people

01:08:46.319 --> 01:08:47.735
who've taken it on the legacy and the

01:08:47.759 --> 01:08:49.655
amount of dog groups have really grown.

01:08:49.679 --> 01:08:51.655
I'm I'm um so pleased to live in the

01:08:51.679 --> 01:08:53.335
City of Port Phillip and have that dog

01:08:53.359 --> 01:08:56.359
community quite  come out if that's

01:08:56.480 --> 01:08:58.376
something out of co etc. that it's

01:08:58.400 --> 01:09:00.215
really established has been a great one.

01:09:00.239 --> 01:09:03.239
 there are some some good 

01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:05.016
improvements here particularly up in the

01:09:05.040 --> 01:09:06.695
Port Melbourne end with the fence dog

01:09:06.719 --> 01:09:09.096
park and the dog beach hours increased.

01:09:09.120 --> 01:09:12.120
So it'll be it'll be noticed.  that

01:09:13.359 --> 01:09:15.896
community pitch not being included I

01:09:15.920 --> 01:09:17.335
don't think will be a problem because

01:09:17.359 --> 01:09:18.856
it's actually probably a good thing that

01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:20.856
we have a place to go sports there

01:09:20.880 --> 01:09:22.616
you're there you're undisturbed. So

01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:25.016
maybe they'll move off the other pitches

01:09:25.040 --> 01:09:27.335
and it'll open it up. It won't be one or

01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:29.096
two people and the dogs all kind of

01:09:29.120 --> 01:09:31.976
competing. It'll be more concentrated by

01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:34.936
um the separation in a way. The locking

01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:37.960
the gates at um Eastern Reserve North

01:09:38.719 --> 01:09:41.416
seems to be really helpful and it was

01:09:41.440 --> 01:09:44.215
just an idea that was put out there one

01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:46.135
day, but it seems to be the solution for

01:09:46.159 --> 01:09:48.536
now for a difficult area. Over the

01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:50.056
years, when we're looking for more

01:09:50.080 --> 01:09:51.416
space, cuz we're here, we want more

01:09:51.440 --> 01:09:53.096
space. We look at a map. We think of

01:09:53.120 --> 01:09:55.896
these little spaces like how Cresant

01:09:55.920 --> 01:09:58.296
West, it seemed ideal, but when you

01:09:58.320 --> 01:10:00.296
speak to the people in the area and that

01:10:00.320 --> 01:10:03.320
is not ticking all the boxes, we have to

01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:06.536
respect that. I'm I'm on board with

01:10:06.560 --> 01:10:08.616
saying, why don't we trial it? But I'm

01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:10.215
also worried that there'll be a few dogs

01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:11.736
that might perish because of it because

01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:14.215
it's not safe. maybe for older dogs that

01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:15.816
aren't going to run around as much as a

01:10:15.840 --> 01:10:17.655
puppy, but some people who are new to

01:10:17.679 --> 01:10:19.976
having puppies kind of go, "Oh, it must

01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:21.816
be safe because council allowed it to

01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:23.816
be." So, I just worry that there's a lot

01:10:23.840 --> 01:10:26.135
of responsibility and that we have to

01:10:26.159 --> 01:10:27.816
hold that even though it would work for

01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:29.736
some dogs, it's probably not the best

01:10:29.760 --> 01:10:32.296
place for majority of people who be

01:10:32.320 --> 01:10:35.320
seeking it out. Um, I'm I'm pleased to

01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:37.816
see that this there's still more that

01:10:37.840 --> 01:10:40.296
will be investigated in the back of this

01:10:40.320 --> 01:10:41.896
and

01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:44.695
 including like Anzac Gardens. That

01:10:44.719 --> 01:10:46.456
that's that's a great one identified. It

01:10:46.480 --> 01:10:49.175
sounds like it could work very well. ,

01:10:49.199 --> 01:10:51.096
okay. I'll leave it there, but thank you

01:10:51.120 --> 01:10:53.016
for all the years of work on this, the

01:10:53.040 --> 01:10:55.576
team who are still here and who have

01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:57.896
been here. Thank you,

01:10:57.920 --> 01:10:59.496
Councelor Buckingham. And then I'll come

01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:01.736
to you in a sec.

01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:04.760
I want to also acknowledge the  work

01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:07.096
of the officers in City of Port Phillip

01:11:07.120 --> 01:11:10.120
and the members of the community that we

01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:13.239
we operate um with very restricted

01:11:14.239 --> 01:11:17.239
surrounds and that pushes us to look for

01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:20.135
innovative ways to create more spaces

01:11:20.159 --> 01:11:23.159
for um dogs and off leash spaces in

01:11:23.440 --> 01:11:25.736
areas that might not conventionally be

01:11:25.760 --> 01:11:28.376
considered. And I think when I first

01:11:28.400 --> 01:11:29.816
considered the idea of Robinson's

01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:31.096
Reserve at first flush, I was like,

01:11:31.120 --> 01:11:33.655
"Yeah, you know, it's a big relatively

01:11:33.679 --> 01:11:36.616
for our area relatively large um green

01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:39.640
space." Um but then when you have those

01:11:40.320 --> 01:11:43.320
further conversations with  vets and

01:11:44.320 --> 01:11:47.320
dog owners and the officers advice that

01:11:47.440 --> 01:11:50.215
actually it poses safety issues for the

01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:53.239
animals and for  drivers and cyclists

01:11:53.840 --> 01:11:55.976
going along Marine Parade. um the

01:11:56.000 --> 01:11:57.576
complexity and the challenge that we're

01:11:57.600 --> 01:12:00.600
faced with really um comes to the four

01:12:01.199 --> 01:12:03.736
and so I'll be supporting the office's

01:12:03.760 --> 01:12:06.760
recommendations tonight  with a

01:12:07.040 --> 01:12:09.336
renewed focus particularly in Elwood

01:12:09.360 --> 01:12:11.976
around Almond Point and looking for more

01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:15.000
innovative spaces that we can use um to

01:12:16.239 --> 01:12:19.239
create more off leash spaces.  the

01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:23.016
extension on the old foreshore is a

01:12:23.040 --> 01:12:25.736
really positive step and I'm sure that

01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:27.496
if we continue the conversation going

01:12:27.520 --> 01:12:30.520
continue the analysis we'll um find more

01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:34.199
spaces into the future. Council Hardy,

01:12:35.920 --> 01:12:37.655
I suppose where the middle park, sorry,

01:12:37.679 --> 01:12:39.336
the Albert Park board's a bit spoiled in

01:12:39.360 --> 01:12:41.655
relation to the access to the Albert

01:12:41.679 --> 01:12:44.536
Park reserve and those residents in

01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:47.175
Western Kildren also Middle Park utilize

01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:49.336
the Albert Park Reserve fully for their

01:12:49.360 --> 01:12:52.056
on and off leash dog exploits. I do

01:12:52.080 --> 01:12:55.080
applaud the increase in beach access

01:12:55.760 --> 01:12:58.760
which  I think opens up the beach

01:12:58.800 --> 01:13:01.800
access off lead from West Son Kilder to

01:13:02.159 --> 01:13:04.776
Port Melbourne which will be greatly

01:13:04.800 --> 01:13:06.616
utilized and applauded by those people

01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:08.856
who walk their dogs along the beach. So

01:13:08.880 --> 01:13:10.135
I'll be supporting this 

01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:13.159
recommendation.

01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:15.816
Did you want to speak? No. All right, I

01:13:15.840 --> 01:13:18.056
can I will wrap up. Thank you deputy

01:13:18.080 --> 01:13:20.856
meers. Um, I want to say that I think

01:13:20.880 --> 01:13:23.576
Elwood is close, maybe equal to Port

01:13:23.600 --> 01:13:25.336
Mill. Oh, you do want to speak. Okay.

01:13:25.360 --> 01:13:27.976
All right. We'll go to you.

01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:31.000
I love dogs. I don't have any dogs, but

01:13:31.040 --> 01:13:33.896
I love dogs and I'll support this. Thank

01:13:33.920 --> 01:13:35.496
you.

01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:37.655
I think that's the best speech yet

01:13:37.679 --> 01:13:40.456
tonight.

01:13:40.480 --> 01:13:42.215
Um, I I'll just quickly close. I think

01:13:42.239 --> 01:13:45.096
Elwood might rival Port Melbourne for

01:13:45.120 --> 01:13:47.896
being dog City and love of dogs. Um, I

01:13:47.920 --> 01:13:50.056
do wanted to say Robinson Reserve was an

01:13:50.080 --> 01:13:52.616
idea I had when we were looking for

01:13:52.640 --> 01:13:55.096
extra open, you know, unutilized space,

01:13:55.120 --> 01:13:57.896
but um, so it was an idea that's come

01:13:57.920 --> 01:13:59.576
and gone and there'll be other ideas.

01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:00.536
So, I'm looking forward to the

01:14:00.560 --> 01:14:02.936
opportunity to to look into those. But,

01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:04.215
thank you counselors. It looks like

01:14:04.239 --> 01:14:05.336
we're all going to support this. So,

01:14:05.360 --> 01:14:07.016
let's put that to the vote. All those in

01:14:07.040 --> 01:14:10.040
favour that is carried unanimously. Good

01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:11.976
work.

01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:13.816
All right. Now dog people, if you want

01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:15.416
to go, please feel free cuz we're going

01:14:15.440 --> 01:14:18.135
to continue on to 11.2

01:14:18.159 --> 01:14:19.816
 and then we'll take a break after

01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:21.976
that. So 11.2 is Balaclava and East St

01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:24.056
Kilda urban forest precinct plan.

01:14:24.080 --> 01:14:26.376
Councilors, do we have any questions for

01:14:26.400 --> 01:14:29.400
officers?

01:14:30.960 --> 01:14:33.960
 council.

01:14:34.480 --> 01:14:36.695
Thank you Mayor. Um just taking up one

01:14:36.719 --> 01:14:39.719
of the questions um from the audience.

01:14:40.719 --> 01:14:43.719
How will we engage with locals on a

01:14:44.000 --> 01:14:47.000
street by street basis um as we as we

01:14:48.400 --> 01:14:51.336
roll out this urban forest strategy to

01:14:51.360 --> 01:14:53.976
their to their local areas?

01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:55.336
Dana Pritchard

01:14:55.360 --> 01:14:57.416
 through you may it'll be the same as

01:14:57.440 --> 01:14:59.496
what we do with other capital projects.

01:14:59.520 --> 01:15:02.056
So it will be when we start a project on

01:15:02.080 --> 01:15:04.135
a street, the first part of that will be

01:15:04.159 --> 01:15:06.616
engaging with those residents on the

01:15:06.640 --> 01:15:08.936
street to understand how they use the

01:15:08.960 --> 01:15:11.960
street um and um you know what the

01:15:12.080 --> 01:15:15.080
constraints might be as well.

01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:18.600
Council Buckingham,

01:15:20.239 --> 01:15:23.239
how will the plan intersect with other

01:15:24.080 --> 01:15:26.616
council initiatives and works and

01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:28.936
actions in the area? for example, the

01:15:28.960 --> 01:15:31.960
Carile Street streetscape plan,  the

01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:35.159
Ripen Lee master plan and um other

01:15:36.159 --> 01:15:38.376
active projects

01:15:38.400 --> 01:15:40.856
 through you may. The idea of the plan

01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:43.096
is that it will complement um other

01:15:43.120 --> 01:15:46.120
things that council are also doing. Um

01:15:46.400 --> 01:15:48.616
the plan does reference  both the

01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:51.576
Carile Street project and also the Ripen

01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:54.600
Lee master plan with an idea that um the

01:15:55.040 --> 01:15:57.016
streets that have ident been identified

01:15:57.040 --> 01:16:00.040
around those areas um would be um

01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:02.135
included in those upgrades as they come

01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:05.159
around

01:16:05.840 --> 01:16:07.655
through sorry

01:16:07.679 --> 01:16:10.215
if I can if I can add to that we'll also

01:16:10.239 --> 01:16:11.736
look to how this will be a reference

01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:13.896
document when we're doing things like

01:16:13.920 --> 01:16:16.135
border asset upgrades so with Argal

01:16:16.159 --> 01:16:18.135
Street. We're doing a road renewal

01:16:18.159 --> 01:16:19.256
program and we're looking at an

01:16:19.280 --> 01:16:22.056
opportunity there for how we integrate

01:16:22.080 --> 01:16:23.976
um the urban forest strategy outcomes at

01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:25.976
the same time. So, this will be an

01:16:26.000 --> 01:16:28.056
important reference document for a wide

01:16:28.080 --> 01:16:30.856
range of council activities. Um and

01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:32.056
we'll look to take advantage of

01:16:32.080 --> 01:16:33.576
integrating those works where we can to

01:16:33.600 --> 01:16:35.416
have economies of scale and and better

01:16:35.440 --> 01:16:37.256
value.

01:16:37.280 --> 01:16:38.856
Any further questions? Councelor

01:16:38.880 --> 01:16:40.215
Holidayiday.

01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:41.816
Yeah, thank you ma'am. Just noting that

01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:44.840
the um that 3.2 to um

01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:49.000
show well says that basically the 

01:16:49.440 --> 01:16:51.175
funding is available for the initial

01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:52.936
primary projects here under the urban

01:16:52.960 --> 01:16:55.896
forest strategy. These primary streets

01:16:55.920 --> 01:16:58.536
um do we currently have in our forward

01:16:58.560 --> 01:17:01.560
budget enough money to um to fund urban

01:17:03.040 --> 01:17:05.175
forest strategy projects that will get

01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:08.199
us to our 30% canopy cover by 2040? It's

01:17:08.800 --> 01:17:11.256
a long question. Excuse

01:17:11.280 --> 01:17:14.280
 through you, Mayor. Um this  urban

01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:18.199
forest precinct plan has been um costed

01:17:18.719 --> 01:17:21.496
um and there are is money within that to

01:17:21.520 --> 01:17:24.056
um deliver all the primary projects. All

01:17:24.080 --> 01:17:25.896
the projects that we deliver will be

01:17:25.920 --> 01:17:28.456
aiming for at least 30% canopy cover on

01:17:28.480 --> 01:17:31.480
the street and 40% in parks. That's the

01:17:32.080 --> 01:17:34.456
intention. As we roll out the next eight

01:17:34.480 --> 01:17:37.480
projects u precinct plans um we intend

01:17:38.960 --> 01:17:40.695
to do the similar process where the

01:17:40.719 --> 01:17:43.719
primary projects would be funded um and

01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:46.376
after that secondary projects would then

01:17:46.400 --> 01:17:49.400
be looked at. Um at that point we can um

01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:53.816
councilors can consider whether or not

01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:56.776
um additional funding is needed for the

01:17:56.800 --> 01:17:59.800
programs to  reach those targets.

01:18:02.719 --> 01:18:05.496
Yeah. So through you may when we set

01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:08.296
about establishing the urban forest

01:18:08.320 --> 01:18:11.320
strategy um we did look to make sure

01:18:11.360 --> 01:18:12.936
that the targets were achievable with

01:18:12.960 --> 01:18:15.736
the budget that was available.  noting

01:18:15.760 --> 01:18:17.016
though that we'd be going through a

01:18:17.040 --> 01:18:19.416
secondary layer of planning with the

01:18:19.440 --> 01:18:21.736
urban with the the precinct plans and as

01:18:21.760 --> 01:18:23.416
part of those processes as we got more

01:18:23.440 --> 01:18:25.016
certainty

01:18:25.040 --> 01:18:26.376
where needed we would come back to

01:18:26.400 --> 01:18:28.695
council and and potentially seek

01:18:28.719 --> 01:18:31.416
additional funding. We're not doing that

01:18:31.440 --> 01:18:34.056
on the first one,

01:18:34.080 --> 01:18:35.816
but we probably will after we do the

01:18:35.840 --> 01:18:38.840
next couple. Um, but we just we want to

01:18:38.960 --> 01:18:40.376
make sure that we've got an equitable

01:18:40.400 --> 01:18:42.135
process for how we allocate the

01:18:42.159 --> 01:18:44.536
resources across. Um, so we want to do

01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:46.296
this next layer of planning. There's

01:18:46.320 --> 01:18:47.896
enough for us to get on with and that

01:18:47.920 --> 01:18:50.920
will go away to um hitting our targets

01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:53.096
particularly in the Balaclava area, but

01:18:53.120 --> 01:18:54.376
there will be opportunities to

01:18:54.400 --> 01:18:56.856
accelerate or amplify that.  we just

01:18:56.880 --> 01:18:58.215
want to do some more planning before we

01:18:58.239 --> 01:18:59.496
come back to you and start asking for

01:18:59.520 --> 01:19:02.520
more money.

01:19:02.800 --> 01:19:05.800
Your council mak

01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:07.736
 there was also a question in the

01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:10.135
gallery around  discussion around tree

01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:12.135
species. Will that consultation

01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:15.159
incorporate input into tree species and

01:19:15.440 --> 01:19:18.056
that sort of level of detail?

01:19:18.080 --> 01:19:19.496
Dana

01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:22.520
through you Mayor. Um some of the 

01:19:23.040 --> 01:19:26.040
engagement will um include tree species.

01:19:26.320 --> 01:19:29.320
Some um there may be parameters around

01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:32.695
what species are available and not. We

01:19:32.719 --> 01:19:35.719
have undertaken some work on the best

01:19:35.760 --> 01:19:37.896
species for the City of Port Phillips.

01:19:37.920 --> 01:19:40.920
So we would be looking um to that as our

01:19:41.360 --> 01:19:42.856
primary source.

01:19:42.880 --> 01:19:44.776
There's a number of

01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:47.800
Yes.

01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:50.456
Any further questions? Well, we have an

01:19:50.480 --> 01:19:52.456
officer's recommendation or do we have a

01:19:52.480 --> 01:19:53.976
mover for that? Councelor Holidayiday.

01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:56.536
Councelor Buckingham to second.

01:19:56.560 --> 01:19:59.560
Councelor Holidayiday. Yep. Um thank

01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:03.096
you, Mayor. Um

01:20:03.120 --> 01:20:05.496
this urban forest strategy is the

01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:08.520
culmination of literally years of work

01:20:09.360 --> 01:20:12.360
um internal to council but also from the

01:20:13.040 --> 01:20:14.776
community who have engaged in the

01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:17.800
process of um contributing to this 

01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:21.336
through their passion for their local

01:20:21.360 --> 01:20:24.215
streets, their knowledge of what those

01:20:24.239 --> 01:20:25.655
streets need and sometimes their

01:20:25.679 --> 01:20:28.135
knowledge of species like quirkus um

01:20:28.159 --> 01:20:31.159
which I'm learning about today. Um so I

01:20:31.600 --> 01:20:34.456
think that for us as a council this is

01:20:34.480 --> 01:20:37.480
an amazing next step for us achieving um

01:20:37.600 --> 01:20:39.496
the targets that we set ourselves in the

01:20:39.520 --> 01:20:42.520
longer term and um hopefully we can

01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:45.256
through this first implementation learn

01:20:45.280 --> 01:20:47.175
what it will take us to get there as

01:20:47.199 --> 01:20:50.199
well. So, um, I'd like to, um, commend

01:20:50.480 --> 01:20:52.056
all of the officers who've put in all

01:20:52.080 --> 01:20:55.080
the work on this, um, which, , you

01:20:55.360 --> 01:20:57.736
know, I'm really privileged to be in a

01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:00.760
position here to be, um, you know, to be

01:21:00.880 --> 01:21:03.336
moving this particular, , motion

01:21:03.360 --> 01:21:05.896
tonight, and I look forward to seeing

01:21:05.920 --> 01:21:08.776
these first streets roll out and to see

01:21:08.800 --> 01:21:10.456
the transformation that we're going to

01:21:10.480 --> 01:21:12.856
bring to these places that, um, that

01:21:12.880 --> 01:21:15.880
need these these trees that the

01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:17.976
transformation that will have on their

01:21:18.000 --> 01:21:20.056
lives the people who live there, the

01:21:20.080 --> 01:21:21.336
people who just pass through those

01:21:21.360 --> 01:21:23.016
places, whether it's going to the shops,

01:21:23.040 --> 01:21:25.336
going to their schools, or going to work

01:21:25.360 --> 01:21:27.256
um or living their day-to-day lives. So,

01:21:27.280 --> 01:21:30.215
I'm incredibly um passionate about this

01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:33.016
and um I'm keen to see us get underway.

01:21:33.040 --> 01:21:35.016
So, again, thank you to the officers,

01:21:35.040 --> 01:21:37.336
thank you to the community. Um let's get

01:21:37.360 --> 01:21:40.360
going on planting these trees. Councelor

01:21:41.360 --> 01:21:44.360
Buckingham,

01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:47.640
it is a real pleasure to be 

01:21:47.679 --> 01:21:49.576
considering this plan tonight and I'd

01:21:49.600 --> 01:21:52.600
like to also um echo councelor

01:21:53.280 --> 01:21:55.655
Holidayiday in thanking the officers for

01:21:55.679 --> 01:21:58.215
all of their hard work on designing this

01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:01.239
plan. It um first one to go, a bit of

01:22:01.840 --> 01:22:04.776
the guinea pig. Um, so a huge amount of

01:22:04.800 --> 01:22:06.695
work has gone into designing it and I

01:22:06.719 --> 01:22:09.416
think it will be a really good um basis

01:22:09.440 --> 01:22:12.440
for the other precinct plans. I'd also

01:22:12.480 --> 01:22:14.135
like to acknowledge the community

01:22:14.159 --> 01:22:16.856
members that engaged with officers

01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:19.880
around the plan um and you know many

01:22:20.080 --> 01:22:22.936
walkounds  the local streets teaching

01:22:22.960 --> 01:22:25.655
me a lot about trees. I've learned a lot

01:22:25.679 --> 01:22:28.056
about trees since becoming a counselor.

01:22:28.080 --> 01:22:30.056
Um

01:22:30.080 --> 01:22:33.080
the plan it's it's very challenging

01:22:33.520 --> 01:22:36.456
particularly in this area where um there

01:22:36.480 --> 01:22:39.480
are a number of very small streets where

01:22:40.159 --> 01:22:42.856
space there's there's competition for

01:22:42.880 --> 01:22:45.576
space whether it be um accessibility

01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:48.600
requirements parking u electriCity wires

01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:51.736
you know there is so much competition

01:22:51.760 --> 01:22:54.760
for space along um these pedestrian

01:22:54.880 --> 01:22:57.880
thorough affairs um and so having a plan

01:22:57.920 --> 01:22:59.976
for actually increasing the canopy is no

01:23:00.000 --> 01:23:02.615
easy task and we're really trying to

01:23:02.639 --> 01:23:05.639
retrofit streets um into an urban forest

01:23:07.040 --> 01:23:08.615
which is not easy but it is so

01:23:08.639 --> 01:23:11.496
important. This plan goes to um

01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:14.215
addressing heat island effect 

01:23:14.239 --> 01:23:17.096
increasing biodiversity pedestrian

01:23:17.120 --> 01:23:18.695
thorough affairs and walkability through

01:23:18.719 --> 01:23:21.096
our neighborhoods. So it's it's so

01:23:21.120 --> 01:23:22.376
important that we get this right and

01:23:22.400 --> 01:23:25.400
this is a really crucial step. Um there

01:23:26.000 --> 01:23:28.056
will be a lot of challenges in the

01:23:28.080 --> 01:23:29.576
implementation

01:23:29.600 --> 01:23:32.600
um of this plan. It is ambitious and um

01:23:33.679 --> 01:23:36.679
it's going to really  be challenged

01:23:37.199 --> 01:23:38.936
when we do look at it street by street

01:23:38.960 --> 01:23:41.175
and corner by you know corner by corner.

01:23:41.199 --> 01:23:43.336
But the plan sets us up in a strong

01:23:43.360 --> 01:23:45.175
position to have those conversations and

01:23:45.199 --> 01:23:47.096
to and to go ahead and get the trees in

01:23:47.120 --> 01:23:49.655
the ground and growing.

01:23:49.679 --> 01:23:52.679
So, it's a really fantastic start and it

01:23:53.040 --> 01:23:55.336
allows for immediate action and really

01:23:55.360 --> 01:23:57.976
lays the tracks for our future planning

01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:01.000
and planting.

01:24:01.360 --> 01:24:02.936
Any other council wish to speak to it?

01:24:02.960 --> 01:24:05.175
Councelor J.

01:24:05.199 --> 01:24:07.256
Um, greening Port Phillip is important

01:24:07.280 --> 01:24:09.816
to all of us. This is fantastic. Having

01:24:09.840 --> 01:24:12.840
the urban strategy plan broken up by

01:24:13.120 --> 01:24:15.655
ward. Um, I'm really happy that Justin

01:24:15.679 --> 01:24:17.655
and Libby went first. Justin's a real

01:24:17.679 --> 01:24:19.256
greeny, so we're all just going to copy

01:24:19.280 --> 01:24:22.280
his strategy and roll it out.

01:24:24.159 --> 01:24:26.536
Yeah. No.

01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:28.536
Um, but no, this is fantastic and we

01:24:28.560 --> 01:24:30.536
completely support this. So, good work,

01:24:30.560 --> 01:24:32.615
guys. Good work. Officers,

01:24:32.639 --> 01:24:33.896
any other counselor?

01:24:33.920 --> 01:24:34.456
Why not?

01:24:34.480 --> 01:24:37.096
Councelor Hardy,

01:24:37.120 --> 01:24:40.120
again, the ward of Albert Park is

01:24:40.320 --> 01:24:43.256
completely spoiled by our trees. The

01:24:43.280 --> 01:24:45.336
canopy cover creates an unprecedented

01:24:45.360 --> 01:24:48.215
vista in the whole of Melbourne and 

01:24:48.239 --> 01:24:51.239
greening Port Phillip under this plan

01:24:51.280 --> 01:24:54.280
hopefully ensures a green balaclava and

01:24:56.320 --> 01:24:58.856
eastern Kilda. But please, please,

01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:00.856
please, please, the inappropriate

01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:03.175
planting of olive trees and what's known

01:25:03.199 --> 01:25:06.199
as cowitch trees are a blight and a cost

01:25:06.480 --> 01:25:09.256
to the City of Port Phillip. Hopefully

01:25:09.280 --> 01:25:11.576
we can take on the speaker, Miss

01:25:11.600 --> 01:25:14.456
Holidayiday's suggestions of appropriate

01:25:14.480 --> 01:25:17.480
species in this area.

01:25:18.960 --> 01:25:20.296
Any other councelor?

01:25:20.320 --> 01:25:21.736
I'm going to channel the deputy Mayor

01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:23.655
and say I love trees. Our community

01:25:23.679 --> 01:25:26.376
loves trees.  it is fantastic that

01:25:26.400 --> 01:25:29.016
we're actually piloting and instigating

01:25:29.040 --> 01:25:31.736
this  through

01:25:31.760 --> 01:25:34.760
our s kilda  balaclava so that when we

01:25:35.440 --> 01:25:37.655
look at areas like fisherman's bend

01:25:37.679 --> 01:25:40.135
where our canopy overall coverage is

01:25:40.159 --> 01:25:42.695
significantly under the goal of 30%. We

01:25:42.719 --> 01:25:44.695
will have models that will work and get

01:25:44.719 --> 01:25:47.719
us to those targets. So I really look

01:25:48.400 --> 01:25:50.376
forward to the work being underway,

01:25:50.400 --> 01:25:51.896
support this wholeheartedly and my

01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:53.736
fellow council colleagues and look

01:25:53.760 --> 01:25:56.760
forward to us getting on with the job.

01:25:57.040 --> 01:25:59.016
Any other councelor or can we put that

01:25:59.040 --> 01:26:01.175
to the vote?

01:26:01.199 --> 01:26:03.655
Do you want to close?

01:26:03.679 --> 01:26:06.376
Um while Sin Kilder East and Bellaclava

01:26:06.400 --> 01:26:08.856
are going first, the other  wards

01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:11.576
won't be far behind. So let's get them

01:26:11.600 --> 01:26:14.215
accelerated as well. Thank you, Mayor.

01:26:14.239 --> 01:26:15.496
All right, let's put that to the vote.

01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:18.135
All those in favour, all those against.

01:26:18.159 --> 01:26:21.159
That is carried unanimously.

01:26:21.440 --> 01:26:22.856
Councilors, I'm just going to put this

01:26:22.880 --> 01:26:25.096
question to you. Do you want to take a

01:26:25.120 --> 01:26:27.016
5m minute break? Yep. Okay, great. All

01:26:27.040 --> 01:26:28.936
right, we're going to come back at about

01:26:28.960 --> 01:26:31.896
I say 5 minutes, 10 to 8. Ready to go

01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:34.920
everybody at the latest. Thank you

01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:38.135
everyone. Let's let's focus in and

01:26:38.159 --> 01:26:40.936
return. Welcome back. Um we are at item

01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:43.655
11.3 which is the ministerial referral

01:26:43.679 --> 01:26:46.679
for planning scheme amendment C28 port

01:26:47.440 --> 01:26:48.695
councils do have any questions for

01:26:48.719 --> 01:26:50.456
office. Okay council m

01:26:50.480 --> 01:26:53.016
 just wanted to confirm that in this

01:26:53.040 --> 01:26:55.576
 the agenda before us and this

01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:58.135
application before us council is not the

01:26:58.159 --> 01:26:59.896
responsible decision-making authority.

01:26:59.920 --> 01:27:02.920
We are simply providing advice to

01:27:03.040 --> 01:27:04.376
 the minister for planning. Is that

01:27:04.400 --> 01:27:05.496
correct? Through a planning scheme

01:27:05.520 --> 01:27:08.520
amendment. Patricia Stewart

01:27:08.639 --> 01:27:10.456
through you Mayor. Um that is correct.

01:27:10.480 --> 01:27:12.135
The Minister of Planning is the

01:27:12.159 --> 01:27:13.736
responsible authority.

01:27:13.760 --> 01:27:15.016
Great.

01:27:15.040 --> 01:27:18.040
Any other questions? Councilors.

01:27:18.400 --> 01:27:20.215
Councilor Holidayiday.

01:27:20.239 --> 01:27:23.096
Thank you, Mayor. Um on on page 236, we

01:27:23.120 --> 01:27:26.120
see um some photos of  other

01:27:27.840 --> 01:27:30.536
developments in the area. And I note the

01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:33.560
the difference in, you know, I'm just a

01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:36.056
simple um St Kilder East resident, but

01:27:36.080 --> 01:27:39.080
in articulation of those designs, in the

01:27:39.440 --> 01:27:42.056
refinement of their appearance compared

01:27:42.080 --> 01:27:45.080
to this building that we have here at 

01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:48.600
Normandy Road. I'm wondering um through

01:27:48.960 --> 01:27:50.936
these recommendations here whether we

01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:53.576
have a mechanism by which we can engage

01:27:53.600 --> 01:27:56.376
with the developers to um improve the

01:27:56.400 --> 01:27:59.400
articulation or the design finish of the

01:27:59.840 --> 01:28:02.056
tower itself rather than just the

01:28:02.080 --> 01:28:04.296
podium.

01:28:04.320 --> 01:28:06.456
Patricia

01:28:06.480 --> 01:28:08.215
through you may  thank you for the

01:28:08.239 --> 01:28:11.239
question. So recommend a condition 13 at

01:28:12.560 --> 01:28:14.856
attachment five

01:28:14.880 --> 01:28:17.880
um does recommend condition that of

01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:20.856
facad strategy materials and finishes

01:28:20.880 --> 01:28:22.776
those details are provided to the

01:28:22.800 --> 01:28:24.296
satisfaction of the responsible

01:28:24.320 --> 01:28:27.320
authority.

01:28:27.840 --> 01:28:29.096
Thank you.

01:28:29.120 --> 01:28:32.120
Any other questions for the officers?

01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:35.256
If not could I have a mover?

01:28:35.280 --> 01:28:35.896
Happy to move.

01:28:35.920 --> 01:28:38.456
Council making a move. Come on. Council

01:28:38.480 --> 01:28:41.480
Holidayiday second council min

01:28:42.960 --> 01:28:45.336
it's never easy when council is not the

01:28:45.360 --> 01:28:47.496
decision-m authority not the responsible

01:28:47.520 --> 01:28:49.336
authority in terms of planning but this

01:28:49.360 --> 01:28:50.695
provides an opportunity for us to

01:28:50.719 --> 01:28:53.096
provide input that we trust  the

01:28:53.120 --> 01:28:54.296
minister through the department of

01:28:54.320 --> 01:28:56.695
transport and planning will heed our

01:28:56.719 --> 01:28:59.719
advice. We you know as  imperfect as

01:29:00.480 --> 01:29:02.135
state government may view councils

01:29:02.159 --> 01:29:04.376
around planning decisions the reality is

01:29:04.400 --> 01:29:06.456
we are closest to the community. We know

01:29:06.480 --> 01:29:08.936
our communities. We know what is

01:29:08.960 --> 01:29:10.615
required for Fisherman's Bend and the

01:29:10.639 --> 01:29:13.175
urban renewal. And we trust that the

01:29:13.199 --> 01:29:15.496
minister will heed our advice on this. I

01:29:15.520 --> 01:29:17.576
commend the motion.

01:29:17.600 --> 01:29:20.056
Council Holiday.

01:29:20.080 --> 01:29:21.976
No. Anyone else wish to speak to the

01:29:22.000 --> 01:29:25.000
motion?

01:29:25.040 --> 01:29:27.096
Okay. Let's put that to the vote.

01:29:27.120 --> 01:29:30.120
All those in favour? All those against?

01:29:30.719 --> 01:29:33.719
That motion is carried unanimously.

01:29:34.080 --> 01:29:36.215
Item 11.4, four, which is the planning

01:29:36.239 --> 01:29:39.239
scheme amendment C224 port, which is the

01:29:39.760 --> 01:29:42.456
anomaly correction. Councilors, do we do

01:29:42.480 --> 01:29:45.480
we have questions for officers?

01:29:46.239 --> 01:29:47.736
No.

01:29:47.760 --> 01:29:49.175
If there's no questions, do I have a

01:29:49.199 --> 01:29:52.056
mover and a second, please? Councelor J

01:29:52.080 --> 01:29:53.976
to move councelor Hardy to second.

01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:56.056
Councelor J.

01:29:56.080 --> 01:29:58.456
Councelor Hardy.

01:29:58.480 --> 01:30:01.480
Anyone like anyone like to speak to it?

01:30:01.840 --> 01:30:04.135
All right. If not, let's put that to the

01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:07.159
vote then. All those in favour,

01:30:07.199 --> 01:30:08.456
all those against, that is carried

01:30:08.480 --> 01:30:11.256
unanimously.

01:30:11.280 --> 01:30:14.280
Okay.  13.1.

01:30:15.280 --> 01:30:17.896
So that is the audit and risk committee

01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:19.816
annual review of the committee charter.

01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:22.840
Council has any questions for officers?

01:30:23.840 --> 01:30:26.840
As per  the benchmark exercise, this

01:30:27.520 --> 01:30:29.736
is now going to put in place term limits

01:30:29.760 --> 01:30:31.655
for the ordinary the independent

01:30:31.679 --> 01:30:33.096
advisers on the ordinary risk committee.

01:30:33.120 --> 01:30:35.016
Is that correct?

01:30:35.040 --> 01:30:36.856
 who am I going to? Robin Bley.

01:30:36.880 --> 01:30:38.536
Yeah, thank you Mayor. That is correct.

01:30:38.560 --> 01:30:40.856
We're proposing a cap of 10 of nine

01:30:40.880 --> 01:30:43.736
years for independent members.

01:30:43.760 --> 01:30:45.896
Thank you.

01:30:45.920 --> 01:30:48.695
Any other questions?

01:30:48.719 --> 01:30:50.296
council

01:30:50.320 --> 01:30:53.320
min to move council holiday to second.

01:30:54.080 --> 01:30:55.816
I'm just going to do you in in future.

01:30:55.840 --> 01:30:58.840
Um  councelor min

01:30:59.199 --> 01:31:02.199
just briefly this was a culmination of

01:31:03.679 --> 01:31:05.576
an alternate recommendation that was put

01:31:05.600 --> 01:31:08.456
forward at  council earlier this year.

01:31:08.480 --> 01:31:10.135
It is great to see that we have

01:31:10.159 --> 01:31:12.215
undertaken that benchmarking exercise

01:31:12.239 --> 01:31:14.376
and we are aligning our audit and risk

01:31:14.400 --> 01:31:16.856
committee charter with best practice.

01:31:16.880 --> 01:31:19.336
This is actually one of the most it's

01:31:19.360 --> 01:31:21.336
actually a legislative requirement but

01:31:21.360 --> 01:31:22.856
also one of the most important

01:31:22.880 --> 01:31:25.880
committees that  council has. So great

01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:28.135
to see that benchmarking undertaken. I

01:31:28.159 --> 01:31:29.736
commend  the officers for that

01:31:29.760 --> 01:31:32.215
exercise and to bring us in line with

01:31:32.239 --> 01:31:34.056
best practice in not just local

01:31:34.080 --> 01:31:36.056
government but audit and risk more

01:31:36.080 --> 01:31:39.016
broadly. Commend the motion.

01:31:39.040 --> 01:31:40.376
All right, let's put that to the vote.

01:31:40.400 --> 01:31:42.695
All those in favour, all those against.

01:31:42.719 --> 01:31:45.096
That is carried unanimously.

01:31:45.120 --> 01:31:47.336
Item 13.2 to the audit and risk

01:31:47.360 --> 01:31:49.576
committee by annual report as of 30th of

01:31:49.600 --> 01:31:52.456
June 2025.

01:31:52.480 --> 01:31:55.480
Any questions?

01:31:55.840 --> 01:31:57.655
I'm happy to move this one. Council me,

01:31:57.679 --> 01:31:59.736
did you want to second this one? Um this

01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:01.496
is just speaks to the report. Um

01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:04.135
councelor M and myself are the two um

01:32:04.159 --> 01:32:07.159
councelor reps. Um just to note that

01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:11.336
it is a very long meeting and there is a

01:32:11.360 --> 01:32:13.576
lot of detail covered. I can assure you

01:32:13.600 --> 01:32:16.600
that  councelor takes his um

01:32:16.800 --> 01:32:19.096
commitments around risk and 

01:32:19.120 --> 01:32:21.256
constantly  in continual improvement

01:32:21.280 --> 01:32:24.280
in processes and  very seriously and

01:32:25.679 --> 01:32:28.215
it's a very long meeting and I'm here

01:32:28.239 --> 01:32:30.776
proof to say that it definitely happens.

01:32:30.800 --> 01:32:32.615
We've got one coming up soon. So I just

01:32:32.639 --> 01:32:34.376
want to on serious matters though I just

01:32:34.400 --> 01:32:35.736
want to commend this to you. They work

01:32:35.760 --> 01:32:37.655
really hard that there is so much um

01:32:37.679 --> 01:32:40.135
effort that the organization puts into

01:32:40.159 --> 01:32:42.135
checking things over and improvement. Um

01:32:42.159 --> 01:32:43.655
and so I just want to commend the motion

01:32:43.679 --> 01:32:46.135
to you council me.

01:32:46.159 --> 01:32:49.159
Thank you Mayor.  I I support  the

01:32:50.159 --> 01:32:53.159
motion and can I also  agree with

01:32:53.920 --> 01:32:56.920
Mayor the the detail with which  that

01:32:58.880 --> 01:33:01.880
this committee goes through to ensure

01:33:02.960 --> 01:33:05.896
that all of the  correct procedures

01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:07.736
are followed and all of the systems

01:33:07.760 --> 01:33:10.456
everything is checked and rechecked. It

01:33:10.480 --> 01:33:13.480
is relentless and um I commend this

01:33:14.000 --> 01:33:15.896
motion.

01:33:15.920 --> 01:33:17.416
Would anyone else like to speak to the

01:33:17.440 --> 01:33:20.215
motion? Let's put that to the vote. All

01:33:20.239 --> 01:33:22.456
those in favour, all those against, that

01:33:22.480 --> 01:33:25.480
is carried unanimously.

01:33:26.080 --> 01:33:28.776
13.3, which is the council's expenses

01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:31.256
monthly reporting July 2025. Any

01:33:31.280 --> 01:33:33.736
questions?

01:33:33.760 --> 01:33:35.336
Who's moving and who's seconding?

01:33:35.360 --> 01:33:38.360
Councelor Hardy to move. Council me to

01:33:38.560 --> 01:33:40.215
second. Councelor Hardy.

01:33:40.239 --> 01:33:43.239
No, Council M.

01:33:43.760 --> 01:33:46.760
 I love expenses and  this is a

01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:49.655
great motion and I support it full.

01:33:49.679 --> 01:33:51.576
Thank you.

01:33:51.600 --> 01:33:54.376
I'm waiting for what you don't love.

01:33:54.400 --> 01:33:57.400
Any other counselor wish to No. Let's

01:33:57.600 --> 01:33:58.776
put that to the vote. All those in

01:33:58.800 --> 01:34:00.536
favour, all those against. That is

01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:02.456
carried unanimously.

01:34:02.480 --> 01:34:03.896
Councilors, there are no notices of

01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:06.920
motion tonight, but item 16 is reports

01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:08.936
by councelor delegates. Do we have any

01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:11.336
reports from councelor delegates? This

01:34:11.360 --> 01:34:14.215
is a good moment because there's time if

01:34:14.239 --> 01:34:17.239
you wish.

01:34:18.960 --> 01:34:20.376
I'm going to do a little one on I'm the

01:34:20.400 --> 01:34:22.376
representative on the Lynden new art

01:34:22.400 --> 01:34:24.776
board. Um and it has come to my

01:34:24.800 --> 01:34:26.296
attention that it is 40 years

01:34:26.320 --> 01:34:28.215
celebration for Lyndon next year. So it

01:34:28.239 --> 01:34:29.896
will be a particularly important year in

01:34:29.920 --> 01:34:31.896
celebrating the long history of and

01:34:31.920 --> 01:34:34.695
contribution that um obviously our

01:34:34.719 --> 01:34:36.536
associated art gallery has provided to

01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:38.536
the City. Um and it will be very

01:34:38.560 --> 01:34:40.056
interesting to see that history play out

01:34:40.080 --> 01:34:41.175
and they're looking at lots of

01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:43.175
interesting things. So um and the

01:34:43.199 --> 01:34:45.096
postcard show will open soon. So please

01:34:45.120 --> 01:34:46.615
keep um that's in your diaries. I think

01:34:46.639 --> 01:34:47.976
it's in about 2 weeks time. You should

01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:49.096
definitely go and see that. They've had

01:34:49.120 --> 01:34:50.776
more entries than ever before and it

01:34:50.800 --> 01:34:53.416
will be very exciting.

01:34:53.440 --> 01:34:54.856
Anyone else? Council M

01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:56.776
update on the Metropolitan Transport

01:34:56.800 --> 01:34:58.056
Forum where I'm the council

01:34:58.080 --> 01:35:00.776
representative and deputy chair.  the

01:35:00.800 --> 01:35:03.416
Metro and Transport Forum has a meeting

01:35:03.440 --> 01:35:05.256
with Minister Williams tomorrow

01:35:05.280 --> 01:35:08.280
afternoon to discuss  public transport

01:35:08.400 --> 01:35:11.175
 promised  public transport

01:35:11.199 --> 01:35:12.695
commitments across metropolitan

01:35:12.719 --> 01:35:14.776
Melbourne. And more broadly, we are

01:35:14.800 --> 01:35:17.800
preparing advocacy platforms to look at

01:35:18.159 --> 01:35:20.056


01:35:20.080 --> 01:35:22.296
many  commitments that we require here

01:35:22.320 --> 01:35:24.376
in Port  Port Phillip, but also more

01:35:24.400 --> 01:35:26.056
broadly in terms of more frequent, more

01:35:26.080 --> 01:35:28.215
reliable public transport, including a

01:35:28.239 --> 01:35:30.536
long- aaited, long promised tram

01:35:30.560 --> 01:35:33.560
upgrades and Metro 2 in Port Phillip.

01:35:35.120 --> 01:35:38.120
Any other council delegate report?

01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:42.135
Council consol  this for guest works

01:35:42.159 --> 01:35:45.159
 arts park board.  we have a new CEO

01:35:45.199 --> 01:35:47.336
Sam Strong and it's very exciting to see

01:35:47.360 --> 01:35:50.360
his new  ideas coming through. It's

01:35:50.719 --> 01:35:53.016
also 40 years next year so I'm not sure

01:35:53.040 --> 01:35:55.896
what was going on in 1984 in the early

01:35:55.920 --> 01:35:58.615
80s but St. Kill South Miller was really

01:35:58.639 --> 01:36:00.215
getting some good ideas that we've kept

01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:03.239
going.  so watch this space.

01:36:04.719 --> 01:36:06.776
I think it's about 40 years for the St

01:36:06.800 --> 01:36:08.376
Kilda Festival and the film festival.

01:36:08.400 --> 01:36:10.615
There was a lot going on at council at

01:36:10.639 --> 01:36:11.976
that point in time.

01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:13.336
Council was very progressive.

01:36:13.360 --> 01:36:15.896
Progressive. Okay, councilors. , thank

01:36:15.920 --> 01:36:17.976
you for that. We're no items of urgent

01:36:18.000 --> 01:36:20.056
business and we have no confidential

01:36:20.080 --> 01:36:22.936
items  listed on the agenda. So, ,

01:36:22.960 --> 01:36:24.215
there being no further business, I

01:36:24.239 --> 01:36:27.239
declare the meeting closed. Thank you.