WEBVTT FILE 1 00:00.160 --> 00:02.696 Hi everybody. 2 00:02.720 --> 00:04.775 so welcome to tonight's unusual 3 00:04.799 --> 00:06.616 meeting of the Port Phillip City 4 00:06.640 --> 00:08.936 Council. council respectfully 5 00:08.960 --> 00:10.615 acknowledges the traditional owners and 6 00:10.639 --> 00:12.615 custodians of the Kulin Nation. We 7 00:12.639 --> 00:14.535 acknowledge their legacy and spiritual 8 00:14.559 --> 00:15.896 connection to the lands and waterways 9 00:15.920 --> 00:17.896 across the City of Port Phillip and pay 10 00:17.920 --> 00:19.896 our heartfelt respect to their Elders 11 00:19.920 --> 00:22.376 past, present, and emerging. So um 12 00:22.400 --> 00:24.776 obviously everyone in the gallery and 13 00:24.800 --> 00:26.616 counselors and officers thank you for 14 00:26.640 --> 00:29.640 your patience as we do this hybrid 15 00:30.960 --> 00:33.960 meeting so thank you in 16 00:34.399 --> 00:35.976 advance for any patience and if we have 17 00:36.000 --> 00:37.656 any troubles we'll just adjourn for a 18 00:37.680 --> 00:40.680 minute and hopefully we won't. so 19 00:40.800 --> 00:41.976 please note that this meeting is 20 00:42.000 --> 00:44.055 commencing at a later of 7 p.m. 21 00:44.079 --> 00:46.535 instead of the original scheduled 6:30 22 00:46.559 --> 00:48.535 p.m. This adjustment has been made in 23 00:48.559 --> 00:50.695 recognition of Rashana, the Jewish New 24 00:50.719 --> 00:52.616 Year, which is being celebrated by many 25 00:52.640 --> 00:54.855 members of our community and we extend 26 00:54.879 --> 00:56.456 our warMearst wishes to all who are 27 00:56.480 --> 00:59.096 observing this important occasion. 28 00:59.120 --> 01:01.015 So obviously we're doing a hybrid style 29 01:01.039 --> 01:04.039 meeting more than usual and just a 30 01:04.080 --> 01:05.576 reminder that streams and recordings of 31 01:05.600 --> 01:07.256 council meetings are copyrighted and 32 01:07.280 --> 01:08.856 cannot be altered, reproduced or 33 01:08.880 --> 01:10.455 republished 34 01:10.479 --> 01:13.256 without the permission of council. Just 35 01:13.280 --> 01:15.816 a reminder that attendees that any 36 01:15.840 --> 01:17.256 member of the public addressing council 37 01:17.280 --> 01:19.095 must extend due courtesy and respect to 38 01:19.119 --> 01:20.775 council and the processes under which it 39 01:20.799 --> 01:23.095 operates speakers must remain 40 01:23.119 --> 01:24.856 respectful and statements or 41 01:24.880 --> 01:26.455 questions must not be defamatory, 42 01:26.479 --> 01:28.376 offensive, or objectionable aimed at 43 01:28.400 --> 01:30.296 embarrassing a counselor or a member of 44 01:30.320 --> 01:31.976 council staff or relate to a matter 45 01:32.000 --> 01:34.616 outside the powers of council and 46 01:34.640 --> 01:36.536 please be careful not to disclose anyone 47 01:36.560 --> 01:39.560 else's individual personal information. 48 01:40.960 --> 01:42.775 Should anyone participating at tonight's 49 01:42.799 --> 01:43.976 meeting not take direction from the 50 01:44.000 --> 01:45.735 chair, we may ask you to leave, and that 51 01:45.759 --> 01:47.415 hopefully will not occur as that makes 52 01:47.439 --> 01:49.576 it very difficult for me. and if you 53 01:49.600 --> 01:51.095 do have any handouts for counselors, 54 01:51.119 --> 01:52.775 please just hand it over to the 55 01:52.799 --> 01:54.135 governance team and not approach the 56 01:54.159 --> 01:57.159 counselors at their desk. Okay, so let's 57 01:57.280 --> 01:59.896 move on. Councilors, number one on 58 01:59.920 --> 02:02.216 our agenda is apologies and we have 59 02:02.240 --> 02:03.896 received an apology from councelor 60 02:03.920 --> 02:06.920 Hardy. Do we have any further apologies? 61 02:08.000 --> 02:10.375 No. All right. Minutes of the previous 62 02:10.399 --> 02:11.976 meeting councilors, the minutes of the 63 02:12.000 --> 02:13.736 meeting council meeting held on the 64 02:13.760 --> 02:15.816 17th of September, 2025 have been 65 02:15.840 --> 02:18.616 circulated. Are there any questions? And 66 02:18.640 --> 02:20.295 if not, could I have a mover and a 67 02:20.319 --> 02:22.776 seconder? So, councelor Thomann to move and 68 02:22.800 --> 02:24.935 councelor Mears to second. Let's put that 69 02:24.959 --> 02:27.656 motion to a vote. All those in favor and 70 02:27.680 --> 02:29.096 could you raise your hands really high 71 02:29.120 --> 02:32.120 so I can actually see them. Heather, 72 02:32.160 --> 02:33.495 I can't Oh, yeah, I can see yours. Okay, 73 02:33.519 --> 02:36.519 that is carried unanimously. 74 02:37.519 --> 02:39.896 declarations of conflicts of 75 02:39.920 --> 02:41.816 interest. Councilors, does anyone have a 76 02:41.840 --> 02:43.896 declaration of tonight? Councelor 77 02:43.920 --> 02:45.575 Halliday 78 02:45.599 --> 02:47.575 thank you, Mayor. I'd like to declare 79 02:47.599 --> 02:50.599 a conflict of interest with the 80 02:52.480 --> 02:55.480 item 8.1 Merchesen Street. I am 81 02:58.879 --> 03:01.879 a resident of Merchesen Street. and 82 03:02.000 --> 03:05.000 I am declaring a perceived 83 03:05.120 --> 03:06.696 conflict of interest in this matter and 84 03:06.720 --> 03:08.776 I will be excusing myself from the 85 03:08.800 --> 03:11.176 discussions and the vote on this. 86 03:11.200 --> 03:13.575 Thank you. 87 03:13.599 --> 03:16.376 Now moving on to change to order of 88 03:16.400 --> 03:18.855 business. So in line with the earlier 89 03:18.879 --> 03:20.376 start of this meeting and 90 03:20.400 --> 03:22.456 recognition of Rashana, 91 03:22.480 --> 03:24.536 I am proposing to amend the order of 92 03:24.560 --> 03:26.696 business to hear counselor question 93 03:26.720 --> 03:28.295 before public question and 94 03:28.319 --> 03:31.256 submissions. So I seek a mover for the 95 03:31.280 --> 03:33.336 motion that council amends the order of 96 03:33.360 --> 03:35.495 business to hear counselor question 97 03:35.519 --> 03:38.295 first. Who's going to move it for me? 98 03:38.319 --> 03:40.376 Councelor Mears to move it and councelor 99 03:40.400 --> 03:42.536 Thomann. You are in my easy sighteline. 100 03:42.560 --> 03:44.376 So you may be the key people tonight. 101 03:44.400 --> 03:46.935 is to second. So let's put that motion 102 03:46.959 --> 03:49.816 to the vote. All those in favor that is 103 03:49.840 --> 03:51.976 carried unanimously. 104 03:52.000 --> 03:54.536 So councilors, we are at councelor 105 03:54.560 --> 03:56.376 question . Do you have any questions 106 03:56.400 --> 03:57.896 you would like to raise separate from 107 03:57.920 --> 03:59.336 any of the items to be discussed 108 03:59.360 --> 04:02.056 tonight? 109 04:02.080 --> 04:05.080 Councilor Halliday. 110 04:05.280 --> 04:08.280 thank you, Mayor. 111 04:08.560 --> 04:11.560 the ride share scooter program that 112 04:11.840 --> 04:13.736 we run here in the city of Port Phillip. 113 04:13.760 --> 04:15.575 I'm wondering what we are doing about 114 04:15.599 --> 04:18.599 the narrow footpath obstructions in the 115 04:18.880 --> 04:21.656 city um that these scooters soMears 116 04:21.680 --> 04:23.656 cause in light of the recent city of 117 04:23.680 --> 04:26.680 Yarra VCAT decision. 118 04:27.600 --> 04:29.256 Now, someone's going to have to point 119 04:29.280 --> 04:30.696 me to who am I going to go to. Is that 120 04:30.720 --> 04:31.256 Brian T? 121 04:31.280 --> 04:33.976 Through you, Mayor. Yes. Thank you 122 04:34.000 --> 04:36.296 and council thank you for your 123 04:36.320 --> 04:38.296 question. we are I think still 124 04:38.320 --> 04:40.536 formally waiting for the outcome of the 125 04:40.560 --> 04:43.560 Yara decision but it does the 126 04:44.400 --> 04:46.615 case does concern the equal 127 04:46.639 --> 04:49.016 opportunity act and the blockage of 128 04:49.040 --> 04:51.096 e scooters 129 04:51.120 --> 04:54.120 of footpaths 130 04:54.800 --> 04:57.800 which occurred in prior to the 131 04:58.000 --> 05:00.536 conclusion of their trial in April this 132 05:00.560 --> 05:03.416 year. I should say that council 133 05:03.440 --> 05:06.440 since then has worked closely with our 134 05:07.120 --> 05:09.735 providers and we put in place a number 135 05:09.759 --> 05:12.455 of processes and we continue to work 136 05:12.479 --> 05:15.479 with our providers to use technology 137 05:15.600 --> 05:18.600 to make sure that our foot paths are not 138 05:19.520 --> 05:22.520 obscured. We now have 100% of our 139 05:22.880 --> 05:25.735 fleet have got foot path detection 140 05:25.759 --> 05:28.056 technology. We're the first in Australia 141 05:28.080 --> 05:31.080 to achieve this. Our there is our 142 05:34.240 --> 05:36.216 requirements are that there is to be no 143 05:36.240 --> 05:39.240 riding on foot paths. The technology 144 05:39.440 --> 05:41.816 provides an audible alert to users if 145 05:41.840 --> 05:44.840 they are riding on foot paths and it 146 05:44.880 --> 05:47.256 will th and the speeds are reduced to 147 05:47.280 --> 05:49.496 walking pace in high activity areas if 148 05:49.520 --> 05:52.136 you are on a foot path 149 05:52.160 --> 05:54.696 and the operators are automatically 150 05:54.720 --> 05:56.536 advised if someone is on a foot path so 151 05:56.560 --> 05:58.455 that they can either educate, find or 152 05:58.479 --> 06:01.479 ban the riders and we'll continue to 153 06:01.919 --> 06:03.336 monitor the effectiveness of that 154 06:03.360 --> 06:06.360 technology. we do not allow parking. 155 06:06.560 --> 06:08.455 We do allow parking on our foot paths 156 06:08.479 --> 06:11.175 but not on foot paths of less than 157 06:11.199 --> 06:14.199 1.5 mters. And we are working through 158 06:14.240 --> 06:16.376 geo fencing 159 06:16.400 --> 06:18.295 all of our foot paths to identify 160 06:18.319 --> 06:21.319 those that are smaller than 1.5 m wide 161 06:21.600 --> 06:24.600 so that we can exclude um e scooters 162 06:25.840 --> 06:28.776 from those footpaths. where you are 163 06:28.800 --> 06:31.096 able to go on a foot path and indeed 164 06:31.120 --> 06:34.056 park on the footpath. Um we now require 165 06:34.080 --> 06:37.080 the taking of a photo by the rider to 166 06:37.120 --> 06:40.120 show that the um escooter is 167 06:41.120 --> 06:44.120 appropriately parked. and the the 168 06:44.800 --> 06:46.615 charging mechanism is such that until 169 06:46.639 --> 06:49.015 that photo has been taken and accepted 170 06:49.039 --> 06:52.039 um the the rider continues to um be 171 06:52.880 --> 06:55.015 charged for the use of the e scooter. 172 06:55.039 --> 06:58.039 we are also looking for bays so that 173 06:58.400 --> 07:00.136 people and encouraging people to 174 07:00.160 --> 07:03.096 properly park in designated parking 175 07:03.120 --> 07:05.575 bays. We've already allocated some 12 176 07:05.599 --> 07:07.496 and we'll continue to look for 177 07:07.520 --> 07:10.520 opportunities to do so. So we are aware 178 07:11.280 --> 07:13.256 of the amenity and safety impacts. We 179 07:13.280 --> 07:15.575 are aware of of e scooters and continue 180 07:15.599 --> 07:18.136 to work with the providers to improve 181 07:18.160 --> 07:20.376 those impacts and address those 182 07:20.400 --> 07:23.400 concerns. 183 07:26.639 --> 07:28.455 Thank you. Okay, I'm going to go to 184 07:28.479 --> 07:30.455 councelor Makin, I believe, has a 185 07:30.479 --> 07:31.256 question. 186 07:31.280 --> 07:34.280 Thank you very much, Mayor. We recently 187 07:34.400 --> 07:36.696 had the Victorian Auditor General's 188 07:36.720 --> 07:39.720 office undertake an audit in terms of 189 07:39.840 --> 07:41.735 the delivery fraMears around a number 190 07:41.759 --> 07:44.376 of projects in Fisherman's Bend. That 191 07:44.400 --> 07:46.136 audit found that a number of projects 192 07:46.160 --> 07:49.015 whether transport or state required 193 07:49.039 --> 07:50.536 infrastructure had not been delivered in 194 07:50.560 --> 07:53.096 a ly manner. What collaboration have 195 07:53.120 --> 07:54.936 we had with the city of Melbourne given 196 07:54.960 --> 07:57.015 the split governing arrangements of 197 07:57.039 --> 07:59.096 fisherman's band in pursuing some of 198 07:59.120 --> 08:02.120 those items at a joint advocacy level? 199 08:03.039 --> 08:05.656 is that Brian T again? yes, thank 200 08:05.680 --> 08:08.680 you and through you may 201 08:08.720 --> 08:11.096 um and council thank you for the 202 08:11.120 --> 08:13.575 question and your continued interest in 203 08:13.599 --> 08:16.376 the matter of fisherman's bend and 204 08:16.400 --> 08:18.376 the concern that council has that 205 08:18.400 --> 08:20.855 without adequate infrastructure 206 08:20.879 --> 08:23.175 particularly around transport there will 207 08:23.199 --> 08:25.096 be an impact in terms of the type and 208 08:25.120 --> 08:27.816 the level of development as well as 209 08:27.840 --> 08:29.096 the impact that it'll have on the 210 08:29.120 --> 08:31.575 community and their capacity to get 211 08:31.599 --> 08:34.455 to and from fisherman's bend. it is a 212 08:34.479 --> 08:37.479 advocacy priority for council and at 213 08:37.919 --> 08:40.919 the recent M9 meeting which the mayor 214 08:41.680 --> 08:44.680 and I attended this issue was raised 215 08:44.800 --> 08:47.016 by me with the city of Melbourne 216 08:47.040 --> 08:49.736 we've agreed that it is a shared concern 217 08:49.760 --> 08:51.576 and we've agreed that we'll be 218 08:51.600 --> 08:53.896 looking to set up and a meeting with the 219 08:53.920 --> 08:55.976 CEO and the Lord mayor to look at 220 08:56.000 --> 08:57.896 advocacy opportunities to make sure we 221 08:57.920 --> 08:59.416 get a better outcome. 222 08:59.440 --> 09:01.976 Thank you. 223 09:02.000 --> 09:05.000 Okay. Any other questions, councilors? 224 09:06.240 --> 09:09.240 I can't see any hands. Someone No, 225 09:11.279 --> 09:13.416 is that okay? We don't have any hands. 226 09:13.440 --> 09:15.576 Okay, great. Um, I'm just going back to 227 09:15.600 --> 09:18.375 my script. Bear with me, folks. Okay. 228 09:18.399 --> 09:20.136 , now we're going to move to public 229 09:20.160 --> 09:23.160 question . , 230 09:23.600 --> 09:25.416 under council's governance rules, public 231 09:25.440 --> 09:27.176 questions can only be asked about items 232 09:27.200 --> 09:29.336 not on the agenda. Therefore, public 233 09:29.360 --> 09:30.856 question um public questions will 234 09:30.880 --> 09:32.856 be referred to an office for response. 235 09:32.880 --> 09:34.456 If you're speaking to an agenda item 236 09:34.480 --> 09:36.375 tonight, a counselor may wish to take up 237 09:36.399 --> 09:38.616 the question when we reach that item. 238 09:38.640 --> 09:40.935 Okay, so let's go. We're going to go 239 09:40.959 --> 09:43.959 first I believe in person. it's Isaac 240 09:44.160 --> 09:46.456 Herman. Isaac, you know the drill. If 241 09:46.480 --> 09:49.016 you could not with me virtually, but if 242 09:49.040 --> 09:51.495 you could take a seat and state 243 09:51.519 --> 09:52.856 your name and suburb and then you'll 244 09:52.880 --> 09:54.216 have two minutes, which I believe is on 245 09:54.240 --> 09:55.976 the screen. I'm not sure if I can see 246 09:56.000 --> 09:58.776 Oh, yes, I can see it. Great. good 247 09:58.800 --> 10:01.016 evening everyone. is the microphone 248 10:01.040 --> 10:01.896 speak? 249 10:01.920 --> 10:04.136 Yep. Good evening everyone. Isaac Herman 250 10:04.160 --> 10:07.160 from M Street Lwood. Um this evening on 251 10:07.360 --> 10:09.576 behalf of the Elwood Canal Action Team 252 10:09.600 --> 10:12.456 Incorporated. Um a few questions. What 253 10:12.480 --> 10:14.136 were the conditions or requirements to 254 10:14.160 --> 10:16.536 be fulfilled by Bayside Council upon 255 10:16.560 --> 10:19.560 receipt of Port Phillips $350,000 256 10:20.000 --> 10:21.976 funding of works associated with the 257 10:22.000 --> 10:24.456 elicate will nature reserve? What part 258 10:24.480 --> 10:26.375 of this funding was associated with a 259 10:26.399 --> 10:29.016 reserve master plan of 2020? Did the 260 10:29.040 --> 10:30.696 city of Port Philip engage in any 261 10:30.720 --> 10:32.456 oversight of contractual funding 262 10:32.480 --> 10:34.935 obligations? Was there an actual aqu 263 10:34.959 --> 10:37.959 quiddle of funding process in place? 264 10:38.959 --> 10:40.456 Will the city of Port Philip acknowledge 265 10:40.480 --> 10:42.055 that the city of Bayside has made 266 10:42.079 --> 10:43.656 arrangements and carried out works 267 10:43.680 --> 10:45.576 contrary to the master plan with 268 10:45.600 --> 10:48.600 specific regards to an extreme reduction 269 10:48.640 --> 10:51.495 from the flood [ __ ] capacity goals. 270 10:51.519 --> 10:53.576 one, two, the deliberate removal of 271 10:53.600 --> 10:56.600 between 66 to 81 trees in the reserve 272 10:56.640 --> 10:58.935 southern wetland above what was actually 273 10:58.959 --> 11:01.016 specified in the master plan that 274 11:01.040 --> 11:02.935 included the culling of three mature 275 11:02.959 --> 11:05.255 river red gums. 276 11:05.279 --> 11:07.815 Three, um the reduction in invisaged 277 11:07.839 --> 11:09.736 biodiversity subsequent to the shallow 278 11:09.760 --> 11:11.736 depth and proposed sealing of the new 279 11:11.760 --> 11:13.336 wetland. 280 11:13.360 --> 11:14.856 Will the city of Port Philip now 281 11:14.880 --> 11:17.255 investigate these concerns? Will the 282 11:17.279 --> 11:19.096 city of Port Philip request that Bayside 283 11:19.120 --> 11:20.935 consequently undertake substantive 284 11:20.959 --> 11:22.856 remedial works in line with the master 285 11:22.880 --> 11:25.495 plan principles, targets, and actions? 286 11:25.519 --> 11:28.136 Andor that Bayside refund part or all of 287 11:28.160 --> 11:30.296 Port Phillips funding relative to their 288 11:30.320 --> 11:32.935 deviation from the master plan to date. 289 11:32.959 --> 11:34.935 and or three that Bayside be held to 290 11:34.959 --> 11:36.935 account for making false claims on the 291 11:36.959 --> 11:39.416 previous protection from flooding that 292 11:39.440 --> 11:41.736 elder residents would enjoy inherent in 293 11:41.760 --> 11:44.216 the adoption of the master plan of 2020 294 11:44.240 --> 11:46.536 that may constitute a contractual breach 295 11:46.560 --> 11:49.495 of faith. Will the city of Port Phillip 296 11:49.519 --> 11:51.896 now withhold any and all planned for 297 11:51.920 --> 11:53.976 potential future funding of Bayside's 298 11:54.000 --> 11:55.976 nature reserve reportedly to be in the 299 11:56.000 --> 11:59.000 vicinity of 650,000 subsequent to a full 300 11:59.680 --> 12:02.216 investigation. And just lastly, if we 301 12:02.240 --> 12:04.055 could have a full response in writing. 302 12:04.079 --> 12:05.976 Thank you. 303 12:06.000 --> 12:07.815 Thank you, Isaac. I'm going to go to 304 12:07.839 --> 12:09.815 Brian T. 305 12:09.839 --> 12:11.176 Thank you. And through you, man. Thank 306 12:11.200 --> 12:12.935 you, Mr. Herman, for your your question 307 12:12.959 --> 12:14.776 and and your interest ongoing 308 12:14.800 --> 12:17.255 interest in this matter. we did 309 12:17.279 --> 12:19.736 council well did have a funding 310 12:19.760 --> 12:21.495 agreement with Bayside. That agreement 311 12:21.519 --> 12:24.375 expired in March or not March expired 312 12:24.399 --> 12:27.399 in 2023. it did provide funding of 313 12:28.079 --> 12:29.896 $350,000. 314 12:29.920 --> 12:32.920 that was council's contribution to 315 12:33.360 --> 12:35.976 the master plan along with the detailed 316 12:36.000 --> 12:38.536 design and our contribution to a 317 12:38.560 --> 12:41.336 concrete wall known as the active 318 12:41.360 --> 12:43.896 edge public amenity. 319 12:43.920 --> 12:46.536 in terms of the oversight of the 320 12:46.560 --> 12:49.176 funding, council participated in a 321 12:49.200 --> 12:51.896 project working group that ensured 322 12:51.920 --> 12:54.375 that the project deliverables were met 323 12:54.399 --> 12:57.399 and that we received um the value for 324 12:57.519 --> 13:00.519 money. we are satisfied that the 325 13:00.800 --> 13:03.656 milestones were met and that indeed 326 13:03.680 --> 13:06.055 the city of Bayside has met the terms of 327 13:06.079 --> 13:08.536 that funding agreement. 328 13:08.560 --> 13:09.896 you ask about the reduction in 329 13:09.920 --> 13:11.896 funding capacity from that provided in 330 13:11.920 --> 13:14.920 the master plan and indeed I can confirm 331 13:15.200 --> 13:17.255 that as the project has gone from that 332 13:17.279 --> 13:19.255 higher level master plan to concept 333 13:19.279 --> 13:21.576 design and finally through to detailed 334 13:21.600 --> 13:24.600 design and into construction there 335 13:25.120 --> 13:28.120 has been a reduction in flood capacity 336 13:28.160 --> 13:30.696 from that provided in the master plan 337 13:30.720 --> 13:33.576 this was due to site constraints that 338 13:33.600 --> 13:35.976 weren't foreseen at the of the 339 13:36.000 --> 13:38.136 master plan and Melbourne water 340 13:38.160 --> 13:41.160 requirements for retarding basins. 341 13:41.360 --> 13:43.416 I'd say that in in projects of this 342 13:43.440 --> 13:45.176 nature, it's not unusual that as you 343 13:45.200 --> 13:47.976 move through the design stages, outcoMears 344 13:48.000 --> 13:50.776 are modified as you respond to new 345 13:50.800 --> 13:52.615 information or new more information that 346 13:52.639 --> 13:55.639 becoMears available. Um, you ask if the 347 13:56.959 --> 13:59.175 master plan if bay has met the master 348 13:59.199 --> 14:00.696 plan requirements particularly in 349 14:00.720 --> 14:03.720 relation to the loss of trees. 350 14:04.480 --> 14:06.696 the Port Phillip we don't have 351 14:06.720 --> 14:09.576 oversight in terms of um our Bayside 352 14:09.600 --> 14:12.600 equipped themselves with um their area 353 14:12.959 --> 14:15.959 of the project. it's not not an 354 14:16.880 --> 14:18.856 issue. It's not a matter that we've got 355 14:18.880 --> 14:21.880 oversight or indeed jurisdiction over 356 14:22.079 --> 14:25.079 and therefore um we cannot really 357 14:26.880 --> 14:29.880 investigate it. We are in terms of 358 14:30.160 --> 14:33.016 the impact on Port Phillip we believe 359 14:33.040 --> 14:34.935 that all the requirements have been 360 14:34.959 --> 14:37.336 met. you ask about additional funding 361 14:37.360 --> 14:38.856 and and I think you suggested a figure 362 14:38.880 --> 14:41.880 of um $650,000. 363 14:42.480 --> 14:45.096 the council budget does not have any 364 14:45.120 --> 14:46.615 funding. There is no allocation of 365 14:46.639 --> 14:49.639 funding for the Bayside Nature 366 14:49.760 --> 14:52.760 Reserve. 367 14:53.760 --> 14:55.896 Thank you. Can I just clarify Brian T 368 14:55.920 --> 14:58.296 but there is 650,000 in regards that is 369 14:58.320 --> 15:00.296 kept for the storm water management 370 15:00.320 --> 15:03.096 possible storm water harvesting 371 15:03.120 --> 15:05.016 I don't know about that exact figure but 372 15:05.040 --> 15:07.495 there is funding for the storm water 373 15:07.519 --> 15:10.519 harvesting project yes 374 15:11.360 --> 15:13.656 and sorry finally through your mayor 375 15:13.680 --> 15:16.296 I'm happy to provide a copy in 376 15:16.320 --> 15:19.320 writing as requested by Mr. Herman. 377 15:19.440 --> 15:22.440 Thank you. Okay. Thanks, Isaac. Um, 378 15:23.519 --> 15:26.519 we're going to go to Frank Artuso. Hi, 379 15:26.800 --> 15:28.615 Frank. 380 15:28.639 --> 15:31.639 Okay. 381 15:32.160 --> 15:33.815 And Frank, you also know the drill. If 382 15:33.839 --> 15:35.736 you could state your name and suburb and 383 15:35.760 --> 15:37.736 then you've got your two minutes. 384 15:37.760 --> 15:40.760 Sure. 385 15:42.480 --> 15:45.480 Frank Alto Albert Park for and in the 386 15:45.519 --> 15:48.216 public interest. sha tova to those 387 15:48.240 --> 15:50.696 that celebrate it. Question one, would 388 15:50.720 --> 15:53.016 council produce a companion flowchart 389 15:53.040 --> 15:54.456 illustrating protocols of the vision 390 15:54.480 --> 15:57.480 four motions and debate section 23 to 43 391 15:57.759 --> 15:59.495 of the new council governance rule 392 15:59.519 --> 16:02.055 supporting efficient and effective 393 16:02.079 --> 16:03.976 running of council meetings. Question 394 16:04.000 --> 16:07.000 two, one of the clever port Philip 395 16:07.839 --> 16:10.776 initiatives is improving financial 396 16:10.800 --> 16:13.336 efficiency. Would council explore an AI 397 16:13.360 --> 16:16.055 tool or Excel spreadsheet to analyze 398 16:16.079 --> 16:17.976 parking infringement delinquencies which 399 16:18.000 --> 16:20.615 reflect on operating cash flow ratio? 400 16:20.639 --> 16:23.016 Would analysis by retro number plate 401 16:23.040 --> 16:24.935 identifying local, metro, regional, 402 16:24.959 --> 16:27.255 interstate, rental vehicles, age and 403 16:27.279 --> 16:29.016 type of vehicles and hotspot areas 404 16:29.040 --> 16:32.040 better scope the $3.3 million or 15.77% 405 16:33.600 --> 16:35.896 budget allowance for impairments on 406 16:35.920 --> 16:37.656 parking infringement problem that we 407 16:37.680 --> 16:39.815 have here? Council minutes of the 2nd of 408 16:39.839 --> 16:42.055 September stated a formal review has not 409 16:42.079 --> 16:45.016 been undertaken. Does no action mean you 410 16:45.040 --> 16:47.016 treat it as a cost of doing business? 411 16:47.040 --> 16:49.255 Question three. Would you advise how 412 16:49.279 --> 16:51.336 many M9 Alliance Council meeting have 413 16:51.360 --> 16:53.175 been held in person since the last 414 16:53.199 --> 16:55.336 council election? The scope of attendees 415 16:55.360 --> 16:58.136 by way of counselors, officers, external 416 16:58.160 --> 17:00.776 subject matter experts. When was the 417 17:00.800 --> 17:02.935 last face-to-face discussion on one of 418 17:02.959 --> 17:05.576 the six key strategic priorities being 419 17:05.600 --> 17:07.256 community resilience or community 420 17:07.280 --> 17:10.280 cohesion as an element? Does the city 421 17:11.039 --> 17:13.175 of Port Philip review other council 422 17:13.199 --> 17:15.256 meeting agendas to identify similar 423 17:15.280 --> 17:16.935 subjects that are addressed from a 424 17:16.959 --> 17:19.175 contrasting perspective particularly 425 17:19.199 --> 17:21.175 given the diversity of diaspora within 426 17:21.199 --> 17:24.055 30 minutes drive from this town hall? 427 17:24.079 --> 17:27.079 and four public interest question. Given 428 17:27.280 --> 17:29.496 councelor's role is part-, what are 429 17:29.520 --> 17:31.496 the usual hours involved and what 430 17:31.520 --> 17:34.296 process processes and preparation is 431 17:34.320 --> 17:36.376 typically required from a council 432 17:36.400 --> 17:39.400 meeting? Um, governor's rule 533 433 17:39.919 --> 17:42.919 53.10 for any clarifying questions and 434 17:43.360 --> 17:44.775 there's no need to thank me for my 435 17:44.799 --> 17:47.416 questions. 436 17:47.440 --> 17:49.816 Thanks, Frank. Um, we're going to go to 437 17:49.840 --> 17:52.136 Brian T to answer number two first and 438 17:52.160 --> 17:54.936 then we'll go to JaMears Gullan. So Brian, 439 17:54.960 --> 17:57.336 thank you. and through you, mayor. 440 17:57.360 --> 17:59.256 we do have limited parking available in 441 17:59.280 --> 18:01.336 Port Phillip. Um and parking 442 18:01.360 --> 18:04.360 restrictions ensure a fair share of that 443 18:04.880 --> 18:07.336 parking. Um and this is particular issue 444 18:07.360 --> 18:10.360 for businesses who are keen to make sure 445 18:10.400 --> 18:12.136 that parking is available for their 446 18:12.160 --> 18:14.456 customers. But of course, and the point 447 18:14.480 --> 18:15.976 you're making is that there's no point 448 18:16.000 --> 18:18.616 in having those restrictions unless they 449 18:18.640 --> 18:20.775 are enforced. and we're always 450 18:20.799 --> 18:23.799 looking to technology to ensure that um 451 18:24.480 --> 18:27.480 we get the right enforcement outcoMears. 452 18:27.520 --> 18:29.976 you ask about our data tools and we 453 18:30.000 --> 18:31.576 do use data tools, we do use 454 18:31.600 --> 18:34.216 spreadsheets, we do use PowerBI to 455 18:34.240 --> 18:37.240 analyze um delinquency and we are 456 18:38.000 --> 18:40.456 always looking at targeted cost 457 18:40.480 --> 18:43.480 mitigation approaches via the courts 458 18:43.520 --> 18:46.520 to increase the collections of fees. 459 18:48.480 --> 18:51.480 we are also able to use registration 460 18:51.760 --> 18:54.056 number to identify if a vehicle is local 461 18:54.080 --> 18:57.080 or interstate. Um and we can advise that 462 18:57.760 --> 19:00.760 approximately 17% of infringements 463 19:01.440 --> 19:04.440 are um city of P Philip originated 464 19:05.360 --> 19:07.976 and then as you move further away 465 19:08.000 --> 19:11.000 that number as you'd expect decreases 466 19:11.760 --> 19:14.760 in terms of pursuing infringements. 467 19:14.880 --> 19:17.880 Um again within Victoria there is a 468 19:18.559 --> 19:20.535 process and and we work through the 469 19:20.559 --> 19:22.296 courts and indeed we've got a system 470 19:22.320 --> 19:23.816 through the state government that allows 471 19:23.840 --> 19:26.216 us to effectively pursue those. 472 19:26.240 --> 19:29.240 interstate infringements are are more 473 19:29.280 --> 19:31.096 difficult. They are more costly and more 474 19:31.120 --> 19:33.816 consuming but we do pursue them. 475 19:33.840 --> 19:36.296 on occasions there are limits in 476 19:36.320 --> 19:39.320 terms of our jurisdiction. For example, 477 19:39.360 --> 19:42.360 um collection via interstate sheriff 478 19:42.480 --> 19:44.775 departments is not something that we can 479 19:44.799 --> 19:46.775 do in those very rare cases that is 480 19:46.799 --> 19:49.256 required. but on on all other 481 19:49.280 --> 19:51.816 occasions, we do pursue parking 482 19:51.840 --> 19:54.840 infringement um returns. 483 19:56.480 --> 19:59.015 Okay, thank you. Um we are going to go 484 19:59.039 --> 20:01.015 to JaMears Gullan to answer the rest of 485 20:01.039 --> 20:03.576 those questions for you Frank. 486 20:03.600 --> 20:06.136 Great. And thank you Frank and through 487 20:06.160 --> 20:08.376 you may I might group questions one 488 20:08.400 --> 20:09.736 and four as they relate to the 489 20:09.760 --> 20:12.136 governance um capacity of council then 490 20:12.160 --> 20:13.895 go to question three which relates to 491 20:13.919 --> 20:16.919 our advocacy priorities. for your 492 20:17.200 --> 20:19.496 first question around a flowchart to 493 20:19.520 --> 20:21.256 improve understanding of the council 494 20:21.280 --> 20:23.336 governance rules. Um we've recently 495 20:23.360 --> 20:24.936 passed our new governance rules on the 496 20:24.960 --> 20:27.256 2nd of September. Um as part of the 497 20:27.280 --> 20:29.256 uplift in this space we're undertaking a 498 20:29.280 --> 20:31.976 review of the governance p pages um 499 20:32.000 --> 20:33.576 particularly in relation to improving 500 20:33.600 --> 20:36.296 the user experience civic education 501 20:36.320 --> 20:38.696 and how community can better register to 502 20:38.720 --> 20:40.696 speak in terms of the suggestions 503 20:40.720 --> 20:42.216 we'll feed that into the process. So 504 20:42.240 --> 20:44.296 I'll keep you updated once we do have 505 20:44.320 --> 20:46.296 those uplifts as well Frank and 506 20:46.320 --> 20:48.456 others within the chamber I'd invite you 507 20:48.480 --> 20:49.976 to provide any further feedback to 508 20:50.000 --> 20:51.816 inform any continuous improvement in 509 20:51.840 --> 20:53.816 this space. We do want council meetings 510 20:53.840 --> 20:56.840 to be as accessible as possible. Um in 511 20:57.440 --> 21:00.056 relation to um the question around 512 21:00.080 --> 21:02.775 counselor's role, is it a part- 513 21:02.799 --> 21:05.799 role? What are the usual hours involved? 514 21:06.000 --> 21:08.216 Um I might not be best placed to answer 515 21:08.240 --> 21:09.895 this, but I will on behalf of the 516 21:09.919 --> 21:12.696 counselors here. um based on the 517 21:12.720 --> 21:15.256 findings of V um the Victorian Councilor 518 21:15.280 --> 21:17.736 Census report which was run by the BLGA 519 21:17.760 --> 21:20.760 in 2024 where they surveyed 301 520 21:21.440 --> 21:24.056 counselors. the average weekly 521 21:24.080 --> 21:27.080 committed um that councilors spent 522 21:27.360 --> 21:29.336 on council related activities was in 523 21:29.360 --> 21:32.135 excess of 30 hours per counselor. Um 524 21:32.159 --> 21:34.056 I've taken a bit of a straw pole test of 525 21:34.080 --> 21:35.655 the counselors in the room that feel 526 21:35.679 --> 21:38.296 that that is about on par for the 527 21:38.320 --> 21:41.176 counselors in this room as well. Um some 528 21:41.200 --> 21:42.856 of the work when you think about 30 529 21:42.880 --> 21:45.736 hours is beyond just the remitt in this 530 21:45.760 --> 21:47.895 room. there's things around attending 531 21:47.919 --> 21:49.655 meetings, engaging with constituents, 532 21:49.679 --> 21:51.256 reading briefing materials, 533 21:51.280 --> 21:53.976 participating in community events and 534 21:54.000 --> 21:56.696 advisory committees. Um councilors also 535 21:56.720 --> 21:59.336 reminded me that it is a 7-day a week 536 21:59.360 --> 22:02.360 role that they some of their remit 537 22:02.400 --> 22:05.096 never stops. Um and just to illustrate 538 22:05.120 --> 22:08.056 for example today and I've been um 539 22:08.080 --> 22:10.135 witnessed to this councilors have 540 22:10.159 --> 22:11.655 been involved in reading and preparing 541 22:11.679 --> 22:13.655 and reviewing agenda papers for tonight, 542 22:13.679 --> 22:15.655 seeking briefings for tonight and 543 22:15.679 --> 22:17.496 further meetings, consulting with 544 22:17.520 --> 22:19.096 community members, drafting amendments 545 22:19.120 --> 22:21.976 and motions for agenda items tonight 546 22:22.000 --> 22:24.616 and also um continue work around 547 22:24.640 --> 22:26.376 understanding the new governance rules. 548 22:26.400 --> 22:29.400 So um it is a big job and it is um an 549 22:31.280 --> 22:33.816 important job. So I might just reiterate 550 22:33.840 --> 22:35.256 my thanks to councilors for the work 551 22:35.280 --> 22:37.176 that they do. Um while I've got the 552 22:37.200 --> 22:40.200 microphone um through you may like to 553 22:42.000 --> 22:44.056 reiterate in my experience of nearly 554 22:44.080 --> 22:45.816 12 years here at city of Port Phillip we 555 22:45.840 --> 22:46.775 have some of the hardest working 556 22:46.799 --> 22:49.799 counselors that I've met. Um 25 to 30 557 22:50.720 --> 22:53.015 hours plus would be the general 558 22:53.039 --> 22:54.616 expectation that I would have seen 559 22:54.640 --> 22:57.640 throughout that . um 7 days a week 560 22:57.840 --> 23:00.296 and in particular now with social media 561 23:00.320 --> 23:03.320 emails it is always on for counselors 562 23:04.320 --> 23:06.616 um they work very very hard and the 563 23:06.640 --> 23:09.640 expectations are significant and they 564 23:09.760 --> 23:11.655 all work very very diligently to meet 565 23:11.679 --> 23:14.216 those expectations. 566 23:14.240 --> 23:16.056 Thank you. All right, we're going to go 567 23:16.080 --> 23:16.535 to 568 23:16.559 --> 23:17.976 Sorry. Oh, sorry. Was there one more? 569 23:18.000 --> 23:19.015 There was one more. Sorry. 570 23:19.039 --> 23:20.616 And apologies. I'll try and make this 571 23:20.640 --> 23:23.640 one quick. Um just in relation to the 572 23:23.760 --> 23:25.336 question for the M9 Alliance for those 573 23:25.360 --> 23:27.176 in the chamber unaware it's a strategic 574 23:27.200 --> 23:29.015 membership we're part of with eight 575 23:29.039 --> 23:31.655 other inner metropolan politan councils 576 23:31.679 --> 23:34.616 where we advocate collectively. we 577 23:34.640 --> 23:36.775 continue to work closely and effectively 578 23:36.799 --> 23:38.775 together. since the last council 579 23:38.799 --> 23:40.296 election we've held a number of meetings 580 23:40.320 --> 23:42.696 with key political stakeholders. Um 581 23:42.720 --> 23:44.936 similarly the CEO and mayors also meet 582 23:44.960 --> 23:47.416 frequently in this space and I 583 23:47.440 --> 23:50.135 similarly meet with my equivalents in 584 23:50.159 --> 23:52.535 various councils not only to reduce um 585 23:52.559 --> 23:54.936 to review advocacy opportunities but 586 23:54.960 --> 23:57.015 also what's on our governance agendas 587 23:57.039 --> 23:59.976 and in our council meetings as well. So 588 24:00.000 --> 24:02.376 um we do try and work collaboratively on 589 24:02.400 --> 24:04.775 regional issues where we can and it 590 24:04.799 --> 24:07.576 is an important alliance for us. 591 24:07.600 --> 24:09.336 Thank you. if I can 592 24:09.360 --> 24:11.496 add to that. Sorry, mayor. 593 24:11.520 --> 24:13.336 Okay. Yeah, I want to keep us moving. 594 24:13.360 --> 24:15.655 Yes, but we have recently met with the 595 24:15.679 --> 24:18.679 um I think the mayor and Mr. T on my 596 24:18.799 --> 24:20.456 behalf met with the planning minister 597 24:20.480 --> 24:22.936 only last week um to discuss important 598 24:22.960 --> 24:25.816 topics of planning around housing 599 24:25.840 --> 24:27.736 which is a key part of our strategic 600 24:27.760 --> 24:29.895 directions in the council plan. We've 601 24:29.919 --> 24:31.655 also met and discussed around priorities 602 24:31.679 --> 24:33.015 around community safety and social 603 24:33.039 --> 24:36.039 cohesion and that will be um an emerging 604 24:36.320 --> 24:39.015 topic or priority for the M9 councils. 605 24:39.039 --> 24:41.336 All of them expressed challenges in this 606 24:41.360 --> 24:42.775 space and a desire to work together and 607 24:42.799 --> 24:44.696 we're looking to set up some key 608 24:44.720 --> 24:47.720 stakeholder meetings with um police and 609 24:47.760 --> 24:50.135 others as an M9 collective. You also 610 24:50.159 --> 24:52.936 refer to the broader area and some close 611 24:52.960 --> 24:54.856 neighbors work very closely with them as 612 24:54.880 --> 24:55.976 well even though they're not part of the 613 24:56.000 --> 24:59.000 M9. we also have strong relationships 614 24:59.279 --> 25:01.496 with Glen Ira, with Bayside and with 615 25:01.520 --> 25:04.135 Kingston. and we have got some 616 25:04.159 --> 25:06.056 current collaborative work that the 617 25:06.080 --> 25:08.456 mayor or the mayors and some senior 618 25:08.480 --> 25:09.895 officers have been working on around 619 25:09.919 --> 25:12.135 community safety and co social cohesion 620 25:12.159 --> 25:13.736 which is also now broadening out to 621 25:13.760 --> 25:15.736 other areas and topics. But I have a 622 25:15.760 --> 25:17.816 very close relationship with the CEOs of 623 25:17.840 --> 25:19.496 those organizations and frequently we 624 25:19.520 --> 25:22.456 talk to them about um topics of interest 625 25:22.480 --> 25:24.856 um that may exceed what we're doing with 626 25:24.880 --> 25:27.736 the M9 or may also be aligned to the 627 25:27.760 --> 25:29.496 work that we're doing with M9 as well. 628 25:29.520 --> 25:31.736 Okay. Thank you. 629 25:31.760 --> 25:33.015 Thank you. All right. I'm going to call 630 25:33.039 --> 25:35.015 on I'm not sure if it's Jill Don or 631 25:35.039 --> 25:38.039 Gildon um a question regarding dogs. 632 25:39.520 --> 25:41.096 So, 633 25:41.120 --> 25:44.056 girl, if you could take your seat and 634 25:44.080 --> 25:45.655 state your name and suburb, but then 635 25:45.679 --> 25:48.679 you've got 2 minutes. 636 25:53.279 --> 25:55.096 First of all, I must say that I don't 637 25:55.120 --> 25:57.336 work for the Lost Dogs Home, so this is 638 25:57.360 --> 25:59.736 just a question to help our canines 639 25:59.760 --> 26:02.760 within the future. You may not probably 640 26:02.799 --> 26:03.816 be aware, 641 26:03.840 --> 26:05.416 Jill, in the future. 642 26:05.440 --> 26:07.015 Jill, you just have to state your name 643 26:07.039 --> 26:08.775 and suburb, sorry, for the record. And 644 26:08.799 --> 26:10.456 then you can continue. We'll restart the 645 26:10.480 --> 26:11.015 clock. 646 26:11.039 --> 26:13.015 Suburb. 647 26:13.039 --> 26:15.736 Jill Don sec. 648 26:15.760 --> 26:17.015 Thank you. Continue. 649 26:17.039 --> 26:20.039 Jill Don Sakilda Seca East. You may not 650 26:20.799 --> 26:22.775 probably be I do not work for the Lost 651 26:22.799 --> 26:24.376 Dogs home. They don't know that I've 652 26:24.400 --> 26:26.456 asked this question, but I'm trying to 653 26:26.480 --> 26:29.480 think of the future. As some people may 654 26:29.679 --> 26:32.679 not be aware or aware, the Lost Dogs 655 26:32.720 --> 26:34.616 Home is planning to move within the 656 26:34.640 --> 26:37.576 future. Now, this means that they might 657 26:37.600 --> 26:40.456 have to move to a big suburb way out the 658 26:40.480 --> 26:43.015 other side of Melbourne. There are many 659 26:43.039 --> 26:45.816 people like me who do not drive, who 660 26:45.840 --> 26:47.736 would give anything on the universe to 661 26:47.760 --> 26:50.056 get their dogs back. The problem being 662 26:50.080 --> 26:52.535 is that there's no cars for them to 663 26:52.559 --> 26:55.176 drive, me included. 664 26:55.200 --> 26:57.816 I'm wondering can there be a scheme 665 26:57.840 --> 27:00.840 organized so that people on low incoMears 666 27:00.880 --> 27:03.496 we pay for it of course 667 27:03.520 --> 27:06.520 so that the our rangers can bring our 668 27:06.960 --> 27:09.960 dogs back to us. I know that that that 669 27:10.799 --> 27:13.799 they hate putting dogs down and if I 670 27:14.080 --> 27:17.080 could get that some kind of anyway that 671 27:18.000 --> 27:20.216 could be organized within the future. 672 27:20.240 --> 27:22.535 The other question is there's on the 673 27:22.559 --> 27:25.559 opposite side to where I live, 674 27:25.679 --> 27:28.679 the both side of Bowen, there's just a 675 27:28.799 --> 27:31.416 few tree roots that somehow miss the 676 27:31.440 --> 27:34.440 boat about being flattened out. Now, I'd 677 27:34.880 --> 27:37.880 hate anybody to have an accident there. 678 27:38.080 --> 27:39.576 You've got to be extremely careful when 679 27:39.600 --> 27:41.336 you're walking down towards the Bothwell 680 27:41.360 --> 27:44.360 Street end. 681 27:45.200 --> 27:47.496 Hey, thank you. Um, we may have to take 682 27:47.520 --> 27:50.520 these on notice, but I'll go to Brian T. 683 27:51.120 --> 27:53.336 Brian's going to talk. 684 27:53.360 --> 27:56.360 thank you. Um and um yes through your 685 27:56.640 --> 27:59.640 mayor. Um the question is in relation to 686 27:59.840 --> 28:02.375 difficulty accessing the lost dog's 687 28:02.399 --> 28:05.015 home. should they move out? it is 688 28:05.039 --> 28:07.015 an issue that I don't have an answer for 689 28:07.039 --> 28:08.936 this evening and I will need to take it 690 28:08.960 --> 28:11.176 on notice and provide an answer as 691 28:11.200 --> 28:14.200 soon as we can. 692 28:19.919 --> 28:22.919 That's all I've got to 693 28:23.200 --> 28:25.895 Thank you. 694 28:25.919 --> 28:28.135 Was it not a question about the trees? 695 28:28.159 --> 28:31.159 No, I thank you. 696 28:33.919 --> 28:36.535 through you may with regards to the 697 28:36.559 --> 28:38.056 issue that was raised about some of the 698 28:38.080 --> 28:39.976 tree roots on the footpath corner of 699 28:40.000 --> 28:41.496 Brothewell and Bowen Street. We'll also 700 28:41.520 --> 28:42.775 take that on notice. We'll have our 701 28:42.799 --> 28:44.775 asset inspectors go and have a look at 702 28:44.799 --> 28:46.936 that area and see what we can do to 703 28:46.960 --> 28:48.696 resolve it and we'll provide a response 704 28:48.720 --> 28:51.720 through to you. 705 29:08.640 --> 29:11.640 Louise, you're on mute. 706 29:16.000 --> 29:18.056 You didn't hear all my lovely words. The 707 29:18.080 --> 29:20.456 joy of trying to do this all. Sorry. Um, 708 29:20.480 --> 29:22.616 just to let you know that we did have a 709 29:22.640 --> 29:24.775 further question on the safety of 710 29:24.799 --> 29:27.096 women. Um, we have not been able to get 711 29:27.120 --> 29:29.255 in contact with the person to let 712 29:29.279 --> 29:30.696 them know that the question will not go 713 29:30.720 --> 29:33.576 ahead. Um, I'm just finding the words 714 29:33.600 --> 29:36.600 that under um in accordance with clause 715 29:36.799 --> 29:39.255 58.3.3 of the city of Port Philip 716 29:39.279 --> 29:41.416 governance rules, the chair may disallow 717 29:41.440 --> 29:42.856 a question if it deals with a subject 718 29:42.880 --> 29:45.880 matter that has been addressed um or 719 29:46.080 --> 29:48.216 could cause embarrassment. On review, 720 29:48.240 --> 29:49.496 the proposed question relates to a 721 29:49.520 --> 29:50.696 matter that has previously been 722 29:50.720 --> 29:52.856 responded to through formal council 723 29:52.880 --> 29:54.616 channels, including prior meetings and 724 29:54.640 --> 29:56.375 published correspondence. So that 725 29:56.399 --> 29:57.816 question will not proceed to public 726 29:57.840 --> 30:00.375 question . However, our officer will 727 30:00.399 --> 30:02.856 reach out separately. So, now we're 728 30:02.880 --> 30:05.880 going to move on to the actual report 729 30:06.399 --> 30:07.895 items and the people speaking to them. 730 30:07.919 --> 30:10.616 So, we're going to start with item 8.1, 731 30:10.640 --> 30:12.535 which is the planning application for 732 30:12.559 --> 30:14.535 one of 16A Merches and Streets and 733 30:14.559 --> 30:17.559 Kilda. So, please bear with me. 734 30:18.320 --> 30:21.320 Natalie Andrews, if you're in person, I 735 30:21.360 --> 30:22.856 believe, so if you could take your seat 736 30:22.880 --> 30:24.936 at the table and state your name and 737 30:24.960 --> 30:26.856 suburb, and then you will have two 738 30:26.880 --> 30:29.880 minutes. 739 30:37.600 --> 30:39.736 Good evening. Natalie Andrews, St. Kilda 740 30:39.760 --> 30:40.616 East. 741 30:40.640 --> 30:42.936 Could you speak up, please? 742 30:42.960 --> 30:45.336 Go ahead. 743 30:45.360 --> 30:47.416 I'm a property owner residing in 744 30:47.440 --> 30:50.375 Merchesen Street and I urge council to 745 30:50.399 --> 30:52.456 oppose this planning application. 746 30:52.480 --> 30:55.176 Merchesen Street is exceptional for many 747 30:55.200 --> 30:58.200 reasons. It is the most intact heritage 748 30:58.480 --> 31:00.856 streetscape within a precinct that's 749 31:00.880 --> 31:02.856 historically and aesthetically 750 31:02.880 --> 31:05.816 significant to the city of Port Phillip. 751 31:05.840 --> 31:08.840 16A has a significant heritage grading 752 31:09.279 --> 31:11.655 within a heritage overlay that a 753 31:11.679 --> 31:14.375 previous far-sighted council established 754 31:14.399 --> 31:16.696 specifically to protect the this 755 31:16.720 --> 31:19.176 heritage for future generations. Today's 756 31:19.200 --> 31:21.816 council has to decide whether to permit 757 31:21.840 --> 31:24.775 an exception to an exceptional street, 758 31:24.799 --> 31:26.936 ending the intactness of the 759 31:26.960 --> 31:29.336 streetscape. The thing about intactness, 760 31:29.360 --> 31:31.895 of course, is that once it's gone, it's 761 31:31.919 --> 31:34.919 gone. Unlike parks, parking, or garbage, 762 31:35.679 --> 31:37.895 it can't be remedied if counselors avert 763 31:37.919 --> 31:40.456 their eyes and look the other way for 764 31:40.480 --> 31:43.176 even a moment. Nothing in clause 55's 765 31:43.200 --> 31:44.616 minimum standards for neighborhood 766 31:44.640 --> 31:46.375 character is about the impact on 767 31:46.399 --> 31:49.015 streetscape. It's precisely because 768 31:49.039 --> 31:52.039 clause 55 is early in its implementation 769 31:52.640 --> 31:54.535 that its oversightes and gray areas are 770 31:54.559 --> 31:57.015 yet to be fully realized in practice. So 771 31:57.039 --> 31:59.816 I urge you to use the heritage policies 772 31:59.840 --> 32:02.840 of council's planning scheme to protect 773 32:02.960 --> 32:05.416 our local heritage. I reject the 774 32:05.440 --> 32:07.255 planner's finding that this proposal is 775 32:07.279 --> 32:09.736 an acceptable contextual design response 776 32:09.760 --> 32:11.736 to the heritage character of the site in 777 32:11.760 --> 32:13.816 the precinct. The proposed design will 778 32:13.840 --> 32:16.216 break the intactness and consistency of 779 32:16.240 --> 32:18.456 the streetscape and will look out of 780 32:18.480 --> 32:20.775 place. The additions will not be 781 32:20.799 --> 32:22.696 visually recessive. They are 782 32:22.720 --> 32:24.696 specifically designed as statement 783 32:24.720 --> 32:27.015 features in the architect owner's 784 32:27.039 --> 32:29.736 signature aesthetic and will result in 785 32:29.760 --> 32:32.535 an unfortunate mashup of styles which 786 32:32.559 --> 32:35.559 will be seen as late art deco modernist 787 32:35.679 --> 32:38.679 meets 2020s does 1970s mid-century 788 32:39.120 --> 32:41.495 modern. Again, I urge you to vote 789 32:41.519 --> 32:43.976 against this application. Once 790 32:44.000 --> 32:46.696 intactness is gone, it's gone. Thank 791 32:46.720 --> 32:47.015 you. 792 32:47.039 --> 32:50.039 Thank you. Thank you. now we are 793 32:50.880 --> 32:53.880 going online with Naomi Umbachi. 794 32:55.360 --> 32:58.360 Hi Naomi. 795 33:01.679 --> 33:04.375 Naomi, I can't see anyone. M do we have 796 33:04.399 --> 33:07.096 Naomi online 797 33:07.120 --> 33:10.120 or should we come back? 798 33:10.799 --> 33:12.296 She's online. 799 33:12.320 --> 33:14.375 She's online. So Naomi, you may need to 800 33:14.399 --> 33:16.375 un press unmute. 801 33:16.399 --> 33:17.976 Yeah, you might need to press an unmute 802 33:18.000 --> 33:21.000 if it's popped up. 803 33:21.519 --> 33:22.535 All right, Naomi, we're going to come 804 33:22.559 --> 33:23.176 back to you. 805 33:23.200 --> 33:24.535 Yes. Hello. Can you hear me? 806 33:24.559 --> 33:26.135 Oh, there you are. Yes, we can. 807 33:26.159 --> 33:28.135 So Naomi, if you could state your name 808 33:28.159 --> 33:29.576 and suburb, and then you've got two 809 33:29.600 --> 33:30.375 minutes. 810 33:30.399 --> 33:33.399 Yeah, my I'm Naomi Ambachi. I'm from St 811 33:33.760 --> 33:36.760 Kilda East. Shantaal to everyone 812 33:36.799 --> 33:39.336 tonight. I'm a property owner and 813 33:39.360 --> 33:42.360 resident of 16 Merchesen Street which 814 33:42.399 --> 33:45.399 directly adjoins 16A Merchesen Street on 815 33:46.799 --> 33:49.799 16A's western boundary. I wish to raise 816 33:50.399 --> 33:53.255 the following key concerns. The first 817 33:53.279 --> 33:56.279 concern is the excess excessive boundary 818 33:56.880 --> 33:59.880 wall height and visual impact. The 819 34:00.000 --> 34:03.000 proposed new boundary wall along 16A's 820 34:03.440 --> 34:05.416 western side boundary will be 821 34:05.440 --> 34:06.936 approximately 822 34:06.960 --> 34:09.815 double the height of the existing fence 823 34:09.839 --> 34:12.375 which is currently there. So it's rising 824 34:12.399 --> 34:15.399 from about 2 to 3 m to an imposing 5 or 825 34:16.399 --> 34:19.399 6 m over nearly 30 m of shared boundary. 826 34:22.079 --> 34:24.696 This is excessive and out of scale with 827 34:24.720 --> 34:27.575 the surrounding residential context. The 828 34:27.599 --> 34:29.976 walls height and length will create a 829 34:30.000 --> 34:32.855 dominating and oppressive presence, 830 34:32.879 --> 34:35.815 significantly reducing visual openness 831 34:35.839 --> 34:38.615 and impacting the amenity of my 832 34:38.639 --> 34:41.639 property. Most concerning is the loss of 833 34:42.240 --> 34:45.016 natural light, particularly morning 834 34:45.040 --> 34:48.040 light from the east, which will affect 835 34:48.240 --> 34:51.240 all bedrooms on that side of my home. 836 34:53.119 --> 34:56.119 The second key concern is currently 837 34:57.200 --> 35:00.200 there is a collapsed retaining wall on 838 35:00.960 --> 35:03.176 the boundary of our properties and it's 839 35:03.200 --> 35:06.200 an ongoing safety risk. So currently 840 35:06.800 --> 35:09.176 there is there is a collapsed retaining 841 35:09.200 --> 35:11.736 wall along our shared boundary which has 842 35:11.760 --> 35:14.760 resulted in land from 16A 843 35:15.839 --> 35:18.839 encroaching into my property. This 844 35:18.880 --> 35:21.416 collapse is the direct result of 845 35:21.440 --> 35:24.440 long-term water mismanagement 846 35:25.040 --> 35:28.040 from 16A where runoff has caused 847 35:28.320 --> 35:31.320 significant erosion and damage. Given 848 35:31.920 --> 35:34.920 the proposed excavation works, including 849 35:35.520 --> 35:38.520 a pool and underground garage, I am 850 35:39.920 --> 35:42.920 extremely concerned about how this 851 35:43.599 --> 35:46.599 existing issue will be addressed. The 852 35:47.280 --> 35:50.280 current situation poses a serious safety 853 35:50.560 --> 35:53.560 risk into my property and must be 854 35:53.839 --> 35:56.839 rectified as a matter of emergency prior 855 35:56.880 --> 35:58.536 to any further development being 856 35:58.560 --> 36:01.560 considered. Respons I will ask you to 857 36:01.760 --> 36:03.656 wrap up if you've got a final sentence 858 36:03.680 --> 36:04.856 please. 859 36:04.880 --> 36:07.256 Responsibility for this damage lies with 860 36:07.280 --> 36:09.976 the owners of 16A and council must 861 36:10.000 --> 36:13.000 ensure this is resolved appropriately 862 36:13.119 --> 36:15.496 and without delay. Thank you for your 863 36:15.520 --> 36:17.575 and consideration. 864 36:17.599 --> 36:18.456 Thank you. 865 36:18.480 --> 36:20.456 Thank you. 866 36:20.480 --> 36:23.480 We're going to Sam Lane in person. 867 36:24.800 --> 36:27.800 Sam, if you could take the seat and as 868 36:28.320 --> 36:30.216 prior, state your name and suburb and 869 36:30.240 --> 36:33.240 then you'll have two minutes. 870 36:34.320 --> 36:37.016 Thank you. Sam Lane Pan um speaking on 871 36:37.040 --> 36:40.040 behalf of Jennifer Muns. 872 36:40.720 --> 36:42.456 good evening councilors and members 873 36:42.480 --> 36:43.815 of panel. I'm speaking on behalf of 874 36:43.839 --> 36:45.656 Jennifer Muns, the owner of 18B 875 36:45.680 --> 36:48.376 Merchesen Street and 22 Shirley Grove, 876 36:48.400 --> 36:50.376 adjacent neighbor to 16A Merchesen 877 36:50.400 --> 36:52.136 Street, who unfortunately can't attend 878 36:52.160 --> 36:54.216 tonight. Jennifer objects to the 879 36:54.240 --> 36:56.296 proposed development at 16A Merchesen 880 36:56.320 --> 36:58.055 Street and has serious concerns about 881 36:58.079 --> 36:59.815 its impact on both her properties and 882 36:59.839 --> 37:01.736 the broader neighborhood. From a 883 37:01.760 --> 37:03.575 heritage perspective, the proposal 884 37:03.599 --> 37:05.896 introduc introduces excessive bulk 885 37:05.920 --> 37:07.815 that's out of character with the area. 886 37:07.839 --> 37:09.736 The stair enclosure is dominant and 887 37:09.760 --> 37:11.976 visually intrusive in the streetscape. 888 37:12.000 --> 37:14.536 The overall form, materials, and scale 889 37:14.560 --> 37:15.976 are not in keeping with the local 890 37:16.000 --> 37:18.856 heritage context. The roof design also 891 37:18.880 --> 37:20.776 appears architecturally unresolved and 892 37:20.800 --> 37:23.176 inconsistent with the surrounding hoMears. 893 37:23.200 --> 37:25.496 At the rear, the roof over the extended 894 37:25.520 --> 37:27.335 portion seems to accommodate a third 895 37:27.359 --> 37:29.896 story referred to as an addict as an 896 37:29.920 --> 37:32.055 attic, but it effectively adds another 897 37:32.079 --> 37:33.656 level of height and massing beyond 898 37:33.680 --> 37:36.216 what's compliant or appropriate. 899 37:36.240 --> 37:38.696 The side setbacks are also concerning. 900 37:38.720 --> 37:40.216 The building is constructed to the 901 37:40.240 --> 37:42.055 boundary on one side and set back just 902 37:42.079 --> 37:44.376 one meter on the other. The applicant 903 37:44.400 --> 37:45.976 relies on a neighbor neighboring 904 37:46.000 --> 37:48.296 singlestory home as precedent which we 905 37:48.320 --> 37:50.216 believe is not a valid comparison for a 906 37:50.240 --> 37:52.696 multi-level development. There are also 907 37:52.720 --> 37:54.216 issues with the overshadowing 908 37:54.240 --> 37:56.136 calculations. They appear to be 909 37:56.160 --> 37:58.055 incorrect and do not properly account 910 37:58.079 --> 38:00.776 for the private open space of 18A 911 38:00.800 --> 38:03.176 Merchesen Street. I'd also like to 912 38:03.200 --> 38:04.776 briefly note that when the applicant 913 38:04.800 --> 38:06.776 asked Jennifer to support the removal of 914 38:06.800 --> 38:08.936 a redundant redundant easement on his 915 38:08.960 --> 38:11.095 property to allow for his development, 916 38:11.119 --> 38:13.335 she agreed without issue. However, when 917 38:13.359 --> 38:15.095 she later reached out to discuss her 918 38:15.119 --> 38:16.936 concerns with the design, he declined 919 38:16.960 --> 38:18.856 and indicated he wasn't open to any 920 38:18.880 --> 38:21.176 changes. She was disappointed that he 921 38:21.200 --> 38:22.696 was not prepared to reciprocate her 922 38:22.720 --> 38:24.376 neighborly attitude on a matter which 923 38:24.400 --> 38:27.335 impacts her. Finally, we believe that 924 38:27.359 --> 38:28.776 conditions of a full construction 925 38:28.800 --> 38:30.856 management plan detailed dilapidation 926 38:30.880 --> 38:32.696 serving a survey for adjoining 927 38:32.720 --> 38:34.856 properties and a review of any potential 928 38:34.880 --> 38:36.696 structural impact on Jennifer's property 929 38:36.720 --> 38:38.776 and surrounding neighbor neighbors due 930 38:38.800 --> 38:40.696 to excavation or boundary structural 931 38:40.720 --> 38:43.656 works be conditional. Thank you. 932 38:43.680 --> 38:46.680 Thank you. 933 38:47.680 --> 38:50.680 We're now going to Michelle Mahesh. 934 38:51.599 --> 38:54.599 Hi Michelle, if you could take your seat 935 38:56.400 --> 38:58.536 and when you're ready you've got two 936 38:58.560 --> 38:59.976 minutes and if you could please state 937 39:00.000 --> 39:03.000 your name and suburb. 938 39:05.920 --> 39:07.736 Good evening councilors. My name is 939 39:07.760 --> 39:10.136 Michelle Mahesh and I'm a resident of 940 39:10.160 --> 39:13.095 Burchches Street and I ask that you do 941 39:13.119 --> 39:15.575 not support this application for the 942 39:15.599 --> 39:17.976 following reasons. The development is 943 39:18.000 --> 39:20.376 totally at odds with the streetscape. It 944 39:20.400 --> 39:23.016 will be highly visible, large and 945 39:23.040 --> 39:25.016 discordant development which will bear 946 39:25.040 --> 39:27.256 no relationship to the existing 947 39:27.280 --> 39:29.656 architecture in the street. It will not 948 39:29.680 --> 39:31.656 be sympathetic to the existing built 949 39:31.680 --> 39:34.680 form. It will overpower and detract from 950 39:34.960 --> 39:37.575 the original heritage house as well as 951 39:37.599 --> 39:40.599 heritage houses in the precinct. 952 39:40.640 --> 39:42.776 It will introduce new concepts into the 953 39:42.800 --> 39:44.776 street, formidable contemporary box 954 39:44.800 --> 39:47.335 formations and underground basement car 955 39:47.359 --> 39:49.896 parking. The site will be overdeveloped 956 39:49.920 --> 39:52.055 on every boundary with contemporary box 957 39:52.079 --> 39:54.055 formations highly visible from the 958 39:54.079 --> 39:56.616 streetscape. The change in the roof line 959 39:56.640 --> 39:58.456 will also be highly visible from the 960 39:58.480 --> 40:01.176 streetscape. Importantly, the 961 40:01.200 --> 40:03.416 development will set a very dangerous 962 40:03.440 --> 40:06.055 precedent for the future. Merchesen 963 40:06.079 --> 40:08.216 Street is one of the two surviving 964 40:08.240 --> 40:10.456 intact and architecturally significant 965 40:10.480 --> 40:13.480 streets in St. Kilder East. Houses in 966 40:13.599 --> 40:16.055 the street display notable cohesion in 967 40:16.079 --> 40:19.016 regard to scale, competi composition, 968 40:19.040 --> 40:22.040 materials, and detailing. 969 40:23.760 --> 40:26.760 It is a it it is the street it is today 970 40:27.200 --> 40:28.696 because of the efforts of committed 971 40:28.720 --> 40:31.335 residents and forwardthinking counselors 972 40:31.359 --> 40:34.296 who undertook extensive work and over a 973 40:34.320 --> 40:36.216 number of years to ensure recognition of 974 40:36.240 --> 40:38.456 the street for its historical and 975 40:38.480 --> 40:41.256 aesthetic significance. The heritage 976 40:41.280 --> 40:44.216 overlay was an outcome of this work. 977 40:44.240 --> 40:47.240 This brutal and jarring development has 978 40:47.760 --> 40:50.760 no place in a highly intact heritage 979 40:51.680 --> 40:54.136 streetscape. It is of a scale and mass 980 40:54.160 --> 40:56.616 that bears no resemblance to the 981 40:56.640 --> 40:59.335 heritage houses in the vicinity or to 982 40:59.359 --> 41:02.055 the characteristics of the neighborhood. 983 41:02.079 --> 41:04.216 Importantly, it does not meet the 984 41:04.240 --> 41:07.240 purposes of the heritage overlay. 985 41:08.640 --> 41:10.456 Many residents have undertaken 986 41:10.480 --> 41:13.256 extensions in their houses, but these 987 41:13.280 --> 41:15.256 have been recessive and respectful of 988 41:15.280 --> 41:17.736 the heritage streetscape. 989 41:17.760 --> 41:19.016 Councilors, 990 41:19.040 --> 41:21.815 please ask yourselves, 991 41:21.839 --> 41:23.896 what will the legacy of this development 992 41:23.920 --> 41:26.696 be? The applicant's legacy will be that 993 41:26.720 --> 41:28.776 he has changed the look and feel of 994 41:28.800 --> 41:31.016 Merchesen Street with his development 995 41:31.040 --> 41:33.176 which will lead to further contemporary 996 41:33.200 --> 41:36.200 box architecture filtering in and 997 41:36.240 --> 41:38.616 destroying a heritage street and 998 41:38.640 --> 41:41.640 councelor Michelle let yourself be the 999 41:41.680 --> 41:44.536 present preservation of a highly intact 1000 41:44.560 --> 41:47.560 heritage streetscape. All right. I 1001 41:47.680 --> 41:49.176 Sorry, folks. I'm trying to keep it even 1002 41:49.200 --> 41:51.176 so that you all have equal opportunity, 1003 41:51.200 --> 41:53.335 which is two minutes. Um, and I 1004 41:53.359 --> 41:54.936 apologize for the pronunciation of your 1005 41:54.960 --> 41:56.295 name. The Google did not help me out 1006 41:56.319 --> 41:59.319 when I did it. Um, okay, great. , 1007 42:00.560 --> 42:03.560 let's go to Bernie Curtis. 1008 42:05.920 --> 42:07.575 So, Bernie, you've got two minutes, but 1009 42:07.599 --> 42:08.856 if you could start with stating your 1010 42:08.880 --> 42:11.815 name and suburb, please. 1011 42:11.839 --> 42:13.736 My name is Bernie Curtis and I live in 1012 42:13.760 --> 42:15.656 St Kilda East. 1013 42:15.680 --> 42:17.416 Good evening, counselors. My name is 1014 42:17.440 --> 42:19.256 Bernie and I'm a resident and co-owner 1015 42:19.280 --> 42:21.656 of number 13 Merchesen Street, St. Kilda 1016 42:21.680 --> 42:23.256 East. 1017 42:23.280 --> 42:24.776 As you can tell from my accent, I'm 1018 42:24.800 --> 42:26.376 originally from Ireland. And my 1019 42:26.400 --> 42:28.136 husband's family also immigrated here 1020 42:28.160 --> 42:30.376 back in the early 60s, arriving here as 1021 42:30.400 --> 42:33.176 10 pound palms. They lived in hostile 1022 42:33.200 --> 42:34.696 accommodation before moving to their 1023 42:34.720 --> 42:36.616 first home, a rental property in 1024 42:36.640 --> 42:39.640 Bentley. Moving forward to 2013, Kevin 1025 42:40.960 --> 42:42.696 and I moved to Merchant Street, having 1026 42:42.720 --> 42:44.696 searched for the perfect home to raise 1027 42:44.720 --> 42:47.176 our family, just as his parents had 62 1028 42:47.200 --> 42:49.016 years earlier. 1029 42:49.040 --> 42:50.616 I remember the day of the auction not 1030 42:50.640 --> 42:53.176 being 100% sure that in fact this was 1031 42:53.200 --> 42:55.496 the right choice. To be honest, I'm not 1032 42:55.520 --> 42:57.815 actually a huge fan of California 1033 42:57.839 --> 43:00.839 bungalows, but Kevin insisted with 100% 1034 43:01.520 --> 43:03.656 certainty it was the one. So, yes, we 1035 43:03.680 --> 43:05.896 bought number 13. And as I spread the 1036 43:05.920 --> 43:08.696 news to our friends and colleagues about 1037 43:08.720 --> 43:10.616 our new home, they said to me, the 1038 43:10.640 --> 43:12.376 overwhelming was response at the 1039 43:12.400 --> 43:15.400 was, "Oh, you live in Merchesen Street." 1040 43:15.680 --> 43:17.176 I didn't quite understand what they 1041 43:17.200 --> 43:19.176 meant, but it didn't take long for me to 1042 43:19.200 --> 43:20.696 work out how special a street that we 1043 43:20.720 --> 43:23.496 had moved into. In , I learned Oh, 1044 43:23.520 --> 43:24.616 sorry, I have to skip that because I 1045 43:24.640 --> 43:27.640 don't have . Some years later, after 1046 43:27.839 --> 43:30.616 as we sat over a family dinner, 1047 43:30.640 --> 43:33.176 Kevin's dad said, "This house reminds me 1048 43:33.200 --> 43:35.496 of summer, you know. there. And then 1049 43:35.520 --> 43:37.976 Kevin Kevin realized the very house that 1050 43:38.000 --> 43:40.776 we live in in Merchant Street was the 1051 43:40.800 --> 43:42.376 same house he lived in Bentley as a new 1052 43:42.400 --> 43:44.696 immigrant to Australia 1053 43:44.720 --> 43:46.536 and which was also a California 1054 43:46.560 --> 43:48.376 bungalow. 1055 43:48.400 --> 43:51.400 We had made the right decision. 1056 43:51.920 --> 43:53.496 Tonight we gathered to decipher and 1057 43:53.520 --> 43:55.256 understand the intent and actual effect 1058 43:55.280 --> 43:58.216 of this new planning scheme amendment 1059 43:58.240 --> 44:00.295 C7267. 1060 44:00.319 --> 44:02.295 It is very clear. Sorry. The proposed 1061 44:02.319 --> 44:04.295 development has been designed with a 1062 44:04.319 --> 44:06.616 blatant disregard to the heritage 1063 44:06.640 --> 44:08.856 significance of our street with a 1064 44:08.880 --> 44:10.696 proposal to construct a visible set of 1065 44:10.720 --> 44:13.335 boxes which are not sympathetic to the 1066 44:13.359 --> 44:16.359 neighborhood character. A criterion no 1067 44:16.400 --> 44:18.776 longer deemed a relevant consideration 1068 44:18.800 --> 44:21.800 under this new law. Or is it? 1069 44:22.880 --> 44:24.136 I'm going to ask you if you could just 1070 44:24.160 --> 44:25.815 wrap up with the final sentence. As our 1071 44:25.839 --> 44:28.055 elected counselors, as you are elected 1072 44:28.079 --> 44:29.815 counselors tonight, I ask you to deeply 1073 44:29.839 --> 44:32.456 consider the importance of this decision 1074 44:32.480 --> 44:35.416 that stands before you tonight and which 1075 44:35.440 --> 44:38.216 will become your lasting legacy for the 1076 44:38.240 --> 44:41.016 future generations of immigrants yet to 1077 44:41.040 --> 44:43.575 arrive to this great country of ours. 1078 44:43.599 --> 44:44.136 Thank you. 1079 44:44.160 --> 44:46.456 Thank you. Thank you, Bernie. 1080 44:46.480 --> 44:49.416 we are going to David Imber. Hi, 1081 44:49.440 --> 44:51.976 David. 1082 44:52.000 --> 44:53.416 could you please state your name and 1083 44:53.440 --> 44:56.440 suburb and then you've got two minutes. 1084 45:01.040 --> 45:02.536 Thank you mayor and counselors. David 1085 45:02.560 --> 45:05.256 Imber I'm a resident of it Kilda 1086 45:05.280 --> 45:08.136 East. Um my property is to the immediate 1087 45:08.160 --> 45:11.095 east of u the applicant's property. I 1088 45:11.119 --> 45:14.119 also urge you to refuse this um 1089 45:14.240 --> 45:17.240 permit for a number of reasons. um it 1090 45:17.359 --> 45:19.176 will have a significant impact on the 1091 45:19.200 --> 45:20.856 streetscape. It will also have a 1092 45:20.880 --> 45:23.815 significant impact on me as an owner. Um 1093 45:23.839 --> 45:25.575 there is a significant amount of bulk 1094 45:25.599 --> 45:28.216 that will appear on my boundary. Um 1095 45:28.240 --> 45:30.536 significant shading that will be in 1096 45:30.560 --> 45:33.416 my backyard that both of those were not 1097 45:33.440 --> 45:35.896 considered significant by um your 1098 45:35.920 --> 45:37.575 planning officer. And so therefore, I'm 1099 45:37.599 --> 45:39.335 urging you to oppose his 1100 45:39.359 --> 45:42.136 recommendation to approve. Um as others 1101 45:42.160 --> 45:44.295 have said, this is a an important 1102 45:44.319 --> 45:47.256 streetscape. Um, and I'm got the 1103 45:47.280 --> 45:49.736 opportunity to be immediately beside 1104 45:49.760 --> 45:51.496 this property. Um, I think it's 1105 45:51.520 --> 45:52.936 important for the applicant to have the 1106 45:52.960 --> 45:54.776 opportunity to change this property to 1107 45:54.800 --> 45:57.016 meet his needs as a family home, but 1108 45:57.040 --> 45:58.616 this design does not meet your 1109 45:58.640 --> 46:01.575 objectives um your heritage and it 1110 46:01.599 --> 46:03.095 doesn't meet the needs of residents, 1111 46:03.119 --> 46:05.815 including me. Um, the shading will be 1112 46:05.839 --> 46:07.496 significant in my backyard in the 1113 46:07.520 --> 46:09.976 afternoon. Um, , reducing my natural 1114 46:10.000 --> 46:13.000 light. the excessive boxes to the 1115 46:13.119 --> 46:15.016 side which affect both sides of the 1116 46:15.040 --> 46:17.815 property um will also create quite a 1117 46:17.839 --> 46:19.736 significant level of bulk change the 1118 46:19.760 --> 46:22.536 nature of the way in which the property 1119 46:22.560 --> 46:24.536 doesn't just work on the street but 1120 46:24.560 --> 46:27.496 works to me there's also a ramp right 1121 46:27.520 --> 46:30.055 alongside the fence line um I'm 1122 46:30.079 --> 46:32.055 concerned that issues of overlook have 1123 46:32.079 --> 46:35.079 not been seriously considered um 1124 46:35.119 --> 46:38.119 by your council um staff um I'm also 1125 46:39.280 --> 46:40.936 concerned about the issue of water. 1126 46:40.960 --> 46:43.416 There has been issues of water which I 1127 46:43.440 --> 46:45.896 think um come from further up the hill 1128 46:45.920 --> 46:48.856 um but do affect um my property and 1129 46:48.880 --> 46:50.776 the neighboring property. I'm concerned 1130 46:50.800 --> 46:53.176 that the recommendation is that um the 1131 46:53.200 --> 46:56.136 responsible water authority should 1132 46:56.160 --> 46:57.736 consider this before you've 1133 46:57.760 --> 46:59.736 considered. I think council should 1134 46:59.760 --> 47:01.976 have asked for that earlier. Um and so 1135 47:02.000 --> 47:04.536 I'm certainly asking for that to be a 1136 47:04.560 --> 47:06.616 factor in rejecting this application. 1137 47:06.640 --> 47:08.376 Thank you very much. 1138 47:08.400 --> 47:10.136 Thank you. 1139 47:10.160 --> 47:13.160 Okay, we are moving to Rowan Opat. Hi 1140 47:14.960 --> 47:17.016 Rowan, if you could I think you know 1141 47:17.040 --> 47:18.216 the drill now. State your name and 1142 47:18.240 --> 47:19.976 suburb and you've got two minutes. 1143 47:20.000 --> 47:22.616 Hi counselors. My name is Rowan Opat. My 1144 47:22.640 --> 47:24.216 daughter and I are residents at the 1145 47:24.240 --> 47:27.240 suburb site 16A Merches and Street East 1146 47:27.839 --> 47:29.976 and Kilda. I'm an architect and I was 1147 47:30.000 --> 47:32.376 honored to receive the heritage 1148 47:32.400 --> 47:34.456 accommodation in the 2020 city of Port 1149 47:34.480 --> 47:37.095 Phillip Design Awards. This is my first 1150 47:37.119 --> 47:39.815 house just six doors from where my 1151 47:39.839 --> 47:42.055 mother and her family grew up. The 1152 47:42.079 --> 47:44.696 building is a two-story red brick mason 1153 47:44.720 --> 47:46.376 distinct from the rendered bungalows 1154 47:46.400 --> 47:48.936 that line the street. It occupies the 1155 47:48.960 --> 47:51.335 site with generous setbacks, a north 1156 47:51.359 --> 47:53.176 south orientation and a 3 and a half 1157 47:53.200 --> 47:56.200 meter significant fall across the land. 1158 47:56.640 --> 47:58.456 The the front stair is unsafe and 1159 47:58.480 --> 48:01.176 requires replacement. The design process 1160 48:01.200 --> 48:03.656 has been thorough and iterative, 1161 48:03.680 --> 48:05.815 beginning with reporting by heritage 1162 48:05.839 --> 48:07.656 consultants to thaw and heritage and 1163 48:07.680 --> 48:09.976 followed by pre-application meetings 1164 48:10.000 --> 48:12.055 with council, including input from the 1165 48:12.079 --> 48:15.079 council's heritage advisor. 1166 48:15.119 --> 48:16.776 Throughout the planning application 1167 48:16.800 --> 48:18.216 process, several amendments were 1168 48:18.240 --> 48:20.136 submitted to address latent concerns 1169 48:20.160 --> 48:22.376 raised by both council and neighboring 1170 48:22.400 --> 48:24.136 residents. 1171 48:24.160 --> 48:25.976 The proposal maintains the existing 1172 48:26.000 --> 48:28.376 twounit configuration transforming the 1173 48:28.400 --> 48:31.400 mason into a multigeneration home. The 1174 48:31.760 --> 48:34.295 design prefers preserves the major vast 1175 48:34.319 --> 48:35.736 majority of the existing heritage 1176 48:35.760 --> 48:38.216 envelope. Most new works will be 1177 48:38.240 --> 48:40.055 concealed from view by the existing 1178 48:40.079 --> 48:42.535 structure. The eastern entry is set back 1179 48:42.559 --> 48:45.559 12 meters from the street. 1180 48:46.240 --> 48:47.896 Reconstruction and enclosure of the 1181 48:47.920 --> 48:50.295 front stair would be discreetly screened 1182 48:50.319 --> 48:52.776 by contemporary yet recessive board and 1183 48:52.800 --> 48:55.800 batten Thomannberclad walls. These sit above 1184 48:56.400 --> 48:58.776 the existing bricks ballastrade and 1185 48:58.800 --> 49:01.575 below the fascia line. 1186 49:01.599 --> 49:03.815 The new wall facing the street occupies 1187 49:03.839 --> 49:06.456 only 10 and a half square meters. The 1188 49:06.480 --> 49:08.696 Thomannber is sustainably sourced and chosen 1189 49:08.720 --> 49:11.656 for its visual v for its soft visual 1190 49:11.680 --> 49:14.680 impact. The proposed indigenous garden 1191 49:15.119 --> 49:17.496 and trees would further soften the bill 1192 49:17.520 --> 49:20.520 form. Thank you. 1193 49:21.119 --> 49:24.119 Thank you. 1194 49:24.800 --> 49:27.496 We're moving on to item 11.1 which is 1195 49:27.520 --> 49:30.520 the Carile Street proposed sale of land. 1196 49:30.640 --> 49:33.335 David Vochimmer 1197 49:33.359 --> 49:35.335 if you could take your seat and then 1198 49:35.359 --> 49:37.176 you've got two minutes to speak to the 1199 49:37.200 --> 49:39.176 item. 1200 49:39.200 --> 49:41.656 Thank you mayor and counselors. David 1201 49:41.680 --> 49:44.055 V Sharma Melbourne on behalf of the 1202 49:44.079 --> 49:47.079 owners of 256 258 and 260 Carlile 1203 49:48.079 --> 49:50.055 Street. 1204 49:50.079 --> 49:53.079 Now what's proposed by way of the 1205 49:53.119 --> 49:56.119 report at 11.1 is effectively to have 1206 49:57.359 --> 50:00.359 council proceed with the sale of land 1207 50:00.720 --> 50:03.575 to the rear of the Cooh's car park or 1208 50:03.599 --> 50:05.335 associated with the Cooh's car park and 1209 50:05.359 --> 50:07.656 close a number of roadways. 1210 50:07.680 --> 50:10.295 Um I'm hoping that the council laws have 1211 50:10.319 --> 50:12.535 written our um read our submission as 1212 50:12.559 --> 50:15.095 council officers hopefully have as well. 1213 50:15.119 --> 50:17.016 we've set out there in quite some 1214 50:17.040 --> 50:18.535 detail and this is following the 1215 50:18.559 --> 50:21.176 decision of council um at the last 1216 50:21.200 --> 50:23.575 meeting in August that there be further 1217 50:23.599 --> 50:25.736 consultation with ourselves and our 1218 50:25.760 --> 50:27.256 clients 1219 50:27.280 --> 50:30.136 um that that just has not occurred. 1220 50:30.160 --> 50:33.160 So we've been talking to the hand so to 1221 50:33.280 --> 50:36.055 speak exactly what we were told at the 1222 50:36.079 --> 50:38.616 last council meeting. There has not been 1223 50:38.640 --> 50:41.640 any divulgence of any material 1224 50:41.839 --> 50:44.839 or any information as to the form of any 1225 50:45.599 --> 50:48.376 agreement with ourselves with our 1226 50:48.400 --> 50:50.696 clients form of any easement to protect 1227 50:50.720 --> 50:53.720 those rights. Now what we say is that in 1228 50:54.319 --> 50:57.319 effect the first that we've seen is a 1229 50:57.760 --> 51:00.216 report that was tabled on Monday 1230 51:00.240 --> 51:03.240 included a draft 173 agreement a draftou 1231 51:03.520 --> 51:05.976 we're not party to either of those. Soon 1232 51:06.000 --> 51:08.696 as you close the road you extinguish our 1233 51:08.720 --> 51:11.416 rights over those um roadways in terms 1234 51:11.440 --> 51:13.256 of easements that have existed since the 1235 51:13.280 --> 51:14.936 1800s 1236 51:14.960 --> 51:17.256 and to which our clients actually depend 1237 51:17.280 --> 51:18.936 upon in terms of the conduct of their 1238 51:18.960 --> 51:21.416 businesses. We ask that you defer this 1239 51:21.440 --> 51:24.136 item tonight. Defer it to allow for 1240 51:24.160 --> 51:26.136 proper consideration. 1241 51:26.160 --> 51:27.656 We don't want to have to have a fight 1242 51:27.680 --> 51:30.616 with council. Take this matter to the 1243 51:30.640 --> 51:33.335 court, but we will be compelled to do so 1244 51:33.359 --> 51:35.976 if you proceed tonight. 1245 51:36.000 --> 51:37.896 You've been put on notice. You have not 1246 51:37.920 --> 51:40.136 properly considered this matter. There 1247 51:40.160 --> 51:41.976 is not a wholesome consideration in 1248 51:42.000 --> 51:43.815 accordance with Road Management Act in 1249 51:43.839 --> 51:46.055 the local government act. And what we 1250 51:46.079 --> 51:48.616 just ask is we work together rather than 1251 51:48.640 --> 51:51.640 work at opposing positions. So we're 1252 51:51.760 --> 51:53.575 happy for them to be closed, but we need 1253 51:53.599 --> 51:55.976 to secure our rights. Thank you. 1254 51:56.000 --> 51:59.000 Thank you. 1255 51:59.520 --> 52:02.520 Ruth Slaminski. 1256 52:02.640 --> 52:05.335 Hi Ruth. Welcome back. If you could 1257 52:05.359 --> 52:06.616 state your name and suburb and you've 1258 52:06.640 --> 52:09.640 got two minutes. 1259 52:10.480 --> 52:13.335 Hello. I'm Ruth Slanimski from 1260 52:13.359 --> 52:14.936 Balaclava. 1261 52:14.960 --> 52:17.960 , so I'm here again to talk about the 1262 52:18.000 --> 52:21.000 car park behind Coohl's. Um, 1263 52:21.280 --> 52:23.815 I'm quite concerned reading the 1264 52:23.839 --> 52:25.976 resolution that's currently proposed for 1265 52:26.000 --> 52:28.936 this item. Um, because there's a number 1266 52:28.960 --> 52:30.456 of considerations that I think 1267 52:30.480 --> 52:32.936 constitute like an important important 1268 52:32.960 --> 52:34.055 elements of community benefit that 1269 52:34.079 --> 52:37.079 aren't considered. Um so firstly um as 1270 52:38.000 --> 52:39.815 David's mentioned the access to the back 1271 52:39.839 --> 52:41.736 of the shops but also concern about 1272 52:41.760 --> 52:44.616 access from the proposed um underground 1273 52:44.640 --> 52:46.776 car park to the streets. So, um, whether 1274 52:46.800 --> 52:48.376 you'll be able to get out and walk to 1275 52:48.400 --> 52:50.456 other shops not within the Coohl's 1276 52:50.480 --> 52:53.016 proposed development. Um, I think that 1277 52:53.040 --> 52:54.136 should be considered whether you get 1278 52:54.160 --> 52:55.976 there'll be pedestrian access out into 1279 52:56.000 --> 52:58.856 the adjacent streets. Um, or whether 1280 52:58.880 --> 53:01.095 you'll have to go through Coohl's. Um, 1281 53:01.119 --> 53:03.575 and then that sort of will have like 1282 53:03.599 --> 53:05.016 impacts, I'd imagine, on whether people 1283 53:05.040 --> 53:06.696 will patronize continue to patronize 1284 53:06.720 --> 53:09.176 other smaller shops. Um I think there's 1285 53:09.200 --> 53:10.616 no consider well there is no 1286 53:10.640 --> 53:12.856 consideration in the existing resolution 1287 53:12.880 --> 53:15.880 for um the impact um or opportunity to 1288 53:17.280 --> 53:19.815 influence local market conditions. Um so 1289 53:19.839 --> 53:22.055 what shops will be in what other shops 1290 53:22.079 --> 53:24.535 will be in the new um redeveloped COH's 1291 53:24.559 --> 53:27.016 precinct and potential impact 1292 53:27.040 --> 53:28.856 opportunity to influence the rental 1293 53:28.880 --> 53:31.880 conditions for um other tenants of um 1294 53:33.359 --> 53:36.055 properties already owned by Kohl's. 1295 53:36.079 --> 53:38.535 Um and then I guess like the the 1296 53:38.559 --> 53:40.295 neighborhood character component which 1297 53:40.319 --> 53:42.216 we've also heard um discussed in 1298 53:42.240 --> 53:43.736 relation to Merchesen Street hasn't 1299 53:43.760 --> 53:45.416 isn't really covered either. There's 1300 53:45.440 --> 53:48.136 mention of um pedestrian access into and 1301 53:48.160 --> 53:50.295 out of the um the precinct. It's not 1302 53:50.319 --> 53:52.856 specific where those will be located. Um 1303 53:52.880 --> 53:55.815 but I mean I don't want to feel like I'm 1304 53:55.839 --> 53:58.136 shopping at a supermarket when I go to 1305 53:58.160 --> 53:59.656 Carlile Street. That's a big part of why 1306 53:59.680 --> 54:01.335 I choose to live in Balaclava. And so 1307 54:01.359 --> 54:04.359 I'd urge those to be factored into um 1308 54:04.480 --> 54:06.456 the resolution which at present doesn't 1309 54:06.480 --> 54:08.216 make consideration for those um items 1310 54:08.240 --> 54:09.896 and doesn't leave councils with any 1311 54:09.920 --> 54:11.416 power to influence that once it's been 1312 54:11.440 --> 54:14.440 delegated to council offices. So I'd um 1313 54:15.359 --> 54:17.736 ask council why there hasn't been why 1314 54:17.760 --> 54:19.575 this is being delegated to the CEO with 1315 54:19.599 --> 54:22.599 so little um influence factored in 1316 54:22.960 --> 54:24.376 already. Thank you. 1317 54:24.400 --> 54:26.535 Thank you. 1318 54:26.559 --> 54:28.055 Um 1319 54:28.079 --> 54:31.079 Lisa Milbour. Hi Lisa. if you could take 1320 54:31.200 --> 54:33.335 the seat and two minutes are yours 1321 54:33.359 --> 54:36.359 after you've state your name and suburb. 1322 54:38.319 --> 54:40.456 Um hello, it's Lisa Milburn and I 1323 54:40.480 --> 54:43.480 live in Balaclava. Um I want to speak to 1324 54:43.520 --> 54:46.136 the draft resolution of the sale of the 1325 54:46.160 --> 54:49.160 car park um in Bellaclava. 1326 54:49.520 --> 54:52.520 Um with regard to 2.9 1327 54:54.160 --> 54:56.616 um with where it refers to the 1328 54:56.640 --> 54:58.616 retention and conservation and 1329 54:58.640 --> 55:00.616 integration of existing heritage 1330 55:00.640 --> 55:03.640 buildings. which buildings does this 1331 55:04.640 --> 55:07.640 refer to? Is it all of the shop fronts 1332 55:08.319 --> 55:11.319 in that land sale or is it just the bank 1333 55:12.559 --> 55:15.095 or and the glass house? um it's not 1334 55:15.119 --> 55:18.119 clear what that heritage 1335 55:18.319 --> 55:21.319 um includes in that. It's a bit vague. 1336 55:22.400 --> 55:25.400 Um that's that's basically the area that 1337 55:25.520 --> 55:28.520 I wanted to look at. Thank you. 1338 55:28.559 --> 55:30.696 Thank you. 1339 55:30.720 --> 55:32.376 And a councelor may take up your 1340 55:32.400 --> 55:35.400 question when we get to the item. 1341 55:35.440 --> 55:38.440 Gerald Dean McLolin, 1342 55:39.200 --> 55:41.335 welcome. If you could take your name and 1343 55:41.359 --> 55:44.359 obviously you know what to do. 1344 55:48.640 --> 55:51.575 Thank you, Dr. Geredine McLolin. Could I 1345 55:51.599 --> 55:53.976 just draw attention to Geredine, not 1346 55:54.000 --> 55:57.000 Geraldine. It's a common mistake. Um 1347 55:58.240 --> 56:01.240 my question refers under item 11.1 1348 56:02.240 --> 56:04.696 clause 3.5 refers to securing delivery 1349 56:04.720 --> 56:07.095 of a fullline supermarket amongst a 1350 56:07.119 --> 56:09.256 number of other items. What is the 1351 56:09.280 --> 56:11.256 proposed footprint of the intended 1352 56:11.280 --> 56:12.936 fullline supermarket that Cole's 1353 56:12.960 --> 56:14.376 proprietary initiative will be committed 1354 56:14.400 --> 56:17.176 to build? I note there is no frame 1355 56:17.200 --> 56:19.016 milestones attached to the conditions 1356 56:19.040 --> 56:20.936 for delivery of the full fullline 1357 56:20.960 --> 56:23.095 supermarket and no penalties for 1358 56:23.119 --> 56:24.856 non-performance. 1359 56:24.880 --> 56:27.880 Why is that so? Further council's report 1360 56:27.920 --> 56:29.736 purports to have negotiated with Cole's 1361 56:29.760 --> 56:31.575 proprietary entered extra community 1362 56:31.599 --> 56:34.295 benefits. Clause 3.5 refers to inclusion 1363 56:34.319 --> 56:37.016 of affordable housing obligations which 1364 56:37.040 --> 56:38.775 is a requirement under state planning 1365 56:38.799 --> 56:41.176 controls. It also refers to replacement 1366 56:41.200 --> 56:44.200 of 142 car spaces in a basement car park 1367 56:44.559 --> 56:46.936 with restricted hours of operation 1368 56:46.960 --> 56:49.960 confined to Cooh's opening hours which 1369 56:50.000 --> 56:52.616 amount amounts to a con a considerable 1370 56:52.640 --> 56:54.376 amenity loss to the precinct's 1371 56:54.400 --> 56:56.376 restaurants which are often open later 1372 56:56.400 --> 56:59.016 than these hours and overnight parking. 1373 56:59.040 --> 57:01.416 In what way do these commitments add 1374 57:01.440 --> 57:03.736 extra community benefit given it is an 1375 57:03.760 --> 57:05.815 obligation on the developer under state 1376 57:05.839 --> 57:07.736 level controls and it's a reduction in 1377 57:07.760 --> 57:10.456 parking functionality for the precinct. 1378 57:10.480 --> 57:12.616 Further still and of great concern to me 1379 57:12.640 --> 57:14.856 as I'm an owner in Alfred Street 1380 57:14.880 --> 57:17.880 opposite Coohl's is there is no 1381 57:18.640 --> 57:20.456 mention of protection of a residential 1382 57:20.480 --> 57:22.295 interface with Alfred Street. Why is 1383 57:22.319 --> 57:25.176 that so? Thank you. 1384 57:25.200 --> 57:27.335 Thank you. Um we'll make sure we adjust 1385 57:27.359 --> 57:29.416 on the um printing for next . So 1386 57:29.440 --> 57:32.440 apologies with that name error. and 1387 57:32.559 --> 57:34.696 councelor may take up your questions. 1388 57:34.720 --> 57:37.720 Helen Hallidayiday. Hi Helen. 1389 57:44.960 --> 57:47.656 thank you madame mayor. Good to see 1390 57:47.680 --> 57:50.136 you offline like that. 1391 57:50.160 --> 57:52.936 my name's Helen Hallidayiday. I I live 1392 57:52.960 --> 57:55.960 in Bellaclava and I wish to address the 1393 57:56.079 --> 57:58.856 the proposal for the redevelopment of 1394 57:58.880 --> 58:01.880 the the coal site. Um, 1395 58:03.440 --> 58:06.440 first of all, I have circulated 1396 58:06.559 --> 58:09.559 to you a copy of a a picture which goes 1397 58:10.640 --> 58:13.416 back to 1962 1398 58:13.440 --> 58:16.440 which shows a huge crowd of people 1399 58:17.040 --> 58:19.976 who are celebrating the acquisition of 1400 58:20.000 --> 58:23.000 Camden Street car park and in fact 1401 58:23.359 --> 58:26.359 the Carile Street Baclava area has got 1402 58:27.280 --> 58:30.280 um at least six trader trader paid for 1403 58:31.040 --> 58:34.040 car parks of which this proposal will be 1404 58:34.240 --> 58:37.240 to sell two further car parks. Um and 1405 58:39.920 --> 58:42.920 this is not unexpected and probably 1406 58:43.119 --> 58:46.119 welcome in many respects because it is 1407 58:46.240 --> 58:49.240 a major opportunity to realize an 1408 58:50.319 --> 58:53.319 asset. But I I wish to emphasize the 1409 58:53.359 --> 58:56.359 fact that it was originally almost 1410 58:56.799 --> 58:59.656 certainly paid for by traders and the 1411 58:59.680 --> 59:02.680 benefits that acrew from it should go 1412 59:02.799 --> 59:05.799 back to the local area. Um I I'm hoping 1413 59:06.240 --> 59:08.295 that the report that the officers 1414 59:08.319 --> 59:11.319 provide will address that issue. I 1415 59:11.680 --> 59:14.680 see three opportunities for public 1416 59:14.880 --> 59:17.880 benefit. one is um directly through 1417 59:18.720 --> 59:21.720 Cooh's embedding good design, open space 1418 59:22.000 --> 59:24.376 and other community assets within the 1419 59:24.400 --> 59:27.400 site. the second aspect is 1420 59:28.400 --> 59:30.936 immediately adjoining the site both in 1421 59:30.960 --> 59:33.016 Carlile Street and in all the 1422 59:33.040 --> 59:35.896 surrounding areas that there is a 1423 59:35.920 --> 59:38.920 fantastic public realm outcome for these 1424 59:39.200 --> 59:42.200 areas by way of um removing overhead 1425 59:42.640 --> 59:45.640 rail lines, retaining um retaining 1426 59:47.040 --> 59:50.040 trees, increasing canopy cover in that 1427 59:50.480 --> 59:53.480 area. The third is by the council itself 1428 59:55.119 --> 59:57.176 diligently making sure that the 1429 00:59:57.200 --> 01:00:00.200 assessment that they continue to do in 1430 01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:03.095 the in the resolution of the final 1431 01:00:03.119 --> 01:00:06.119 details of a plan for the area before it 1432 01:00:06.799 --> 01:00:09.799 goes to any authorizing 1433 01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:12.920 agencies such as the state government. 1434 01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:15.976 And finally that the financial benefits 1435 01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:18.856 of the site are retained within the 1436 01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:21.880 community of Bellaclava and St Kilder 1437 01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:23.335 East. Thank you madam. 1438 01:00:23.359 --> 01:00:26.359 Thank you Helen. Thank you 1439 01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:31.400 Jennifer Edge. Hi Jen. If you could take 1440 01:00:31.680 --> 01:00:34.680 your seat and you know what to do. 1441 01:00:43.359 --> 01:00:45.256 Oh, Jen Edge and Kilda Community 1442 01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:47.256 Development. Welcome to spring. Nice to 1443 01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:48.856 see you all. 1444 01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:51.880 Um I'm speaking in support of Bella 1445 01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.960 Bella Clava's um proposition that the 1446 01:00:57.839 --> 01:01:00.839 motion before council tonight seemingly 1447 01:01:00.880 --> 01:01:02.936 is inadequate to community residents 1448 01:01:02.960 --> 01:01:04.936 need for amendments commensurate with 1449 01:01:04.960 --> 01:01:06.775 all the concerns raised by Better 1450 01:01:06.799 --> 01:01:08.456 Balaclava. 1451 01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:11.016 In light of given to both the 1452 01:01:11.040 --> 01:01:13.335 marina and the vineyard, I strongly 1453 01:01:13.359 --> 01:01:16.216 request this motion be stalled to ensure 1454 01:01:16.240 --> 01:01:18.376 residents and strip shop traders are 1455 01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:21.400 fully considered in the final motion, 1456 01:01:21.440 --> 01:01:23.095 especially as we did not get the 1457 01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:26.055 expected results from selling to 1458 01:01:26.079 --> 01:01:27.815 Worth. 1459 01:01:27.839 --> 01:01:30.456 Um, we just paid for the public toilets 1460 01:01:30.480 --> 01:01:32.775 to be rebuilt, yet this motion requests 1461 01:01:32.799 --> 01:01:35.656 they be rebuilt a third . And there 1462 01:01:35.680 --> 01:01:37.976 appears no clear lines nor options 1463 01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:40.775 for further input for resident rate 1464 01:01:40.799 --> 01:01:42.936 payers. Thanks in advance for your 1465 01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:45.736 consideration. 1466 01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:47.976 Thank you. 1467 01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:51.000 , Abigail Jabine 1468 01:01:51.520 --> 01:01:53.256 with an S. Sorry. Abigail, if you could 1469 01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:54.696 take the seat, please. And you've got 1470 01:01:54.720 --> 01:01:57.720 two minutes. 1471 01:02:03.760 --> 01:02:06.216 Good evening. I'm Abigail from St. Kilda 1472 01:02:06.240 --> 01:02:09.240 East and I have questions about agenda 1473 01:02:09.359 --> 01:02:11.736 11.1. 1474 01:02:11.760 --> 01:02:13.815 Does the area for sale have a height 1475 01:02:13.839 --> 01:02:16.839 restriction that Kohl's has to adhere 1476 01:02:17.040 --> 01:02:20.040 to? Will the council legislate a height 1477 01:02:20.240 --> 01:02:23.176 restriction if there is none? 1478 01:02:23.200 --> 01:02:26.136 My second question, the sale of land to 1479 01:02:26.160 --> 01:02:28.616 Kohl's is expected by the council and 1480 01:02:28.640 --> 01:02:31.640 officers to revitalize Carile Street. Is 1481 01:02:33.119 --> 01:02:35.095 there a frame that Kohl's has to 1482 01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:38.119 adhere to to develop the land? 1483 01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:41.976 Number three, are the additional car 1484 01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:44.216 parks in relation to the residential 1485 01:02:44.240 --> 01:02:47.240 component part of section 173, 1486 01:02:49.040 --> 01:02:52.040 the contract of sale, or the non-legally 1487 01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:55.400 binding? 1488 01:02:56.559 --> 01:02:59.559 Number four, is theou based on the 1489 01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:02.295 concerns raised during the community 1490 01:03:02.319 --> 01:03:04.456 consultation? 1491 01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:06.055 What if during the fourmonth 1492 01:03:06.079 --> 01:03:09.079 consultation and discussions there is no 1493 01:03:09.359 --> 01:03:12.359 agreement regarding these concerns? 1494 01:03:14.240 --> 01:03:17.240 Number five, a fullline supermarket from 1495 01:03:17.680 --> 01:03:20.680 a big company that also owns multiple 1496 01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:23.880 land holdings in that area potentially 1497 01:03:25.119 --> 01:03:28.055 reduces the diversity of small shops, 1498 01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:31.079 services, and goods along Carile Street. 1499 01:03:32.640 --> 01:03:35.015 How does the council ensure that this 1500 01:03:35.039 --> 01:03:38.039 risk is mitigated? 1501 01:03:38.799 --> 01:03:41.799 Number six, does a recommendation of 1502 01:03:42.000 --> 01:03:45.000 basement parking in the area stated in 1503 01:03:45.440 --> 01:03:48.440 section 173 consider the flood risks in 1504 01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:52.440 the area? 1505 01:03:52.480 --> 01:03:55.176 There are still too many questions that 1506 01:03:55.200 --> 01:03:58.200 are not answered or unclearly answered. 1507 01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:02.440 So, I urge the council not to agree to 1508 01:04:02.799 --> 01:04:05.799 sell the land to Colts. Thank you. 1509 01:04:06.000 --> 01:04:08.216 Thank you. 1510 01:04:08.240 --> 01:04:11.240 Julian Vincent, Julian, if you could 1511 01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:13.575 take the seat and um and then you've got 1512 01:04:13.599 --> 01:04:16.599 two minutes. 1513 01:04:19.839 --> 01:04:22.839 Thank you, Julian Vincent East. 1514 01:04:23.280 --> 01:04:25.496 The availability and use of public 1515 01:04:25.520 --> 01:04:27.335 assets, including public land, of 1516 01:04:27.359 --> 01:04:28.616 course, is one of the most powerful 1517 01:04:28.640 --> 01:04:30.856 tools a council has to deliver outcoMears 1518 01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:33.815 befitting its residents and businesses. 1519 01:04:33.839 --> 01:04:36.055 Decisions to dispose of such assets to 1520 01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:37.976 should be taken with caution and only 1521 01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:40.216 after it is demonstrated that disposal 1522 01:04:40.240 --> 01:04:42.376 as opposed to retention will best serve 1523 01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:44.616 council, its strategies, and its 1524 01:04:44.640 --> 01:04:46.616 community. 1525 01:04:46.640 --> 01:04:49.640 The idea that council would after a 1526 01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:52.376 process initiated at kind of the last 1527 01:04:52.400 --> 01:04:54.216 minute by the previous council prior to 1528 01:04:54.240 --> 01:04:56.936 elections based on a strategy that is 1529 01:04:56.960 --> 01:04:59.960 now 16 years old and not reflective of 1530 01:05:01.039 --> 01:05:02.535 the issues and circumstances of the 1531 01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:05.256 Carile Street precinct in 2025. Oh, and 1532 01:05:05.280 --> 01:05:08.216 by the way, that strategy is 1533 01:05:08.240 --> 01:05:09.896 contradicted by the proposed motion 1534 01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:11.496 which claims the laneways have no 1535 01:05:11.520 --> 01:05:13.335 strategic value to council. You'll find 1536 01:05:13.359 --> 01:05:15.416 many references to value in terms of 1537 01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:18.055 economic value, diversity, access, 1538 01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:20.616 amenity in that strategy, but that's by 1539 01:05:20.640 --> 01:05:22.856 the buy to proceed without having 1540 01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:24.936 conducted an analysis of the economic 1541 01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:26.696 impacts and opportunities of selling 1542 01:05:26.720 --> 01:05:29.720 versus not selling the land with a 1543 01:05:29.839 --> 01:05:32.616 section 173 that whilst they appreciate 1544 01:05:32.640 --> 01:05:34.295 the efforts everyone's made to put more 1545 01:05:34.319 --> 01:05:36.616 into that, still throws us crumbs such 1546 01:05:36.640 --> 01:05:39.575 as a mere 2.5% of the space Coohl's 1547 01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:41.575 would own being retained as public land 1548 01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:43.815 as as open space, beg you pardon, and 1549 01:05:43.839 --> 01:05:45.496 leaves council without options for how 1550 01:05:45.520 --> 01:05:47.256 it could use this space to best serve 1551 01:05:47.280 --> 01:05:50.136 its current strategies and best serve 1552 01:05:50.160 --> 01:05:52.456 residents and businesses sounds absurd 1553 01:05:52.480 --> 01:05:55.095 to me. I've lived in close proximity to 1554 01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:57.335 Carile Street for 10 years now and have 1555 01:05:57.359 --> 01:05:58.775 been quite saddened at its recent 1556 01:05:58.799 --> 01:06:00.775 decline. It's becoming more difficult to 1557 01:06:00.799 --> 01:06:02.616 do business, affirmed by the myriad 1558 01:06:02.640 --> 01:06:04.295 empty shop fronts and lack of business 1559 01:06:04.319 --> 01:06:07.319 diversity. Having witnessed other Cole's 1560 01:06:07.839 --> 01:06:09.496 developments, I'm very concerned that 1561 01:06:09.520 --> 01:06:11.496 handing more power and control over 1562 01:06:11.520 --> 01:06:13.896 rents and access to one of one massive 1563 01:06:13.920 --> 01:06:15.736 player will exacerbate the issues 1564 01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:17.575 council is currently trying to address 1565 01:06:17.599 --> 01:06:19.896 in this area. Looking forward to the 1566 01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:21.896 discussion. 1567 01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:24.920 Thank you. 1568 01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:28.280 And finally, Ariana Wilson. 1569 01:06:30.160 --> 01:06:33.160 Hi, Ariana. Um, you've got two minutes. 1570 01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:37.095 Thank you. Thanks, Liz. Um, Ariana 1571 01:06:37.119 --> 01:06:39.416 Wilson, Sincler East. Um, just a 1572 01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:42.055 statement this evening, just while I 1573 01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:44.456 want to acknowledge that there are 1574 01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:45.896 plenty of little nitty-gritty issues 1575 01:06:45.920 --> 01:06:48.376 that are not quite there yet. The 173 1576 01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:51.400 andou are drafts, um, I just wanted to 1577 01:06:52.480 --> 01:06:55.480 say thank you to all the counselors and 1578 01:06:55.680 --> 01:06:58.295 the officers for their hard work over 1579 01:06:58.319 --> 01:06:59.976 the last year. 1580 01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:02.456 what we have before us now, while not 1581 01:07:02.480 --> 01:07:05.480 finalized, is much better than what was 1582 01:07:06.160 --> 01:07:09.160 before us in August 2024. 1583 01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:12.456 And thank you also to all the community 1584 01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:14.136 members, anyone who's watching online or 1585 01:07:14.160 --> 01:07:16.616 listening. Um, 1586 01:07:16.640 --> 01:07:18.616 it's definitely in a much better place. 1587 01:07:18.640 --> 01:07:20.616 We're not quite there yet, but I know 1588 01:07:20.640 --> 01:07:22.055 everyone has worked really hard. I've 1589 01:07:22.079 --> 01:07:24.055 had lots of opportunities to ask 1590 01:07:24.079 --> 01:07:26.856 questions, talk with people, and we 1591 01:07:26.880 --> 01:07:28.295 really appreciate it, and I know the 1592 01:07:28.319 --> 01:07:30.456 community does as well. So, thank you 1593 01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:33.480 everyone for your and effort, and 1594 01:07:33.920 --> 01:07:35.896 looking forward to um getting this 1595 01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:37.416 finished. 1596 01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:40.440 Thank you. 1597 01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:44.696 Thank you. Okay, so that completes our 1598 01:07:44.720 --> 01:07:47.256 public question . 1599 01:07:47.280 --> 01:07:50.280 sorry I just need to get my next 1600 01:07:50.880 --> 01:07:53.880 everything in front of me. Okay. So 1601 01:07:56.079 --> 01:07:58.616 councilors we have no petitions, joint 1602 01:07:58.640 --> 01:08:00.136 letters or deputations on tonight's 1603 01:08:00.160 --> 01:08:01.815 agenda. So we are going to move to the 1604 01:08:01.839 --> 01:08:04.376 presentation of reports and noting the 1605 01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:06.936 community interest in item 11.1 the 1606 01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:09.015 Carile Street proposed sale of land 1607 01:08:09.039 --> 01:08:11.575 recommendation. In line with provision 1608 01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:13.256 21 of the governance rules, I'm 1609 01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:14.936 proposing to change the order of reports 1610 01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:17.960 to consider this item first. 1611 01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:21.096 So councilors, do you have any questions 1612 01:08:21.120 --> 01:08:23.096 for the officers in regards to this item 1613 01:08:23.120 --> 01:08:25.335 11.1? 1614 01:08:25.359 --> 01:08:28.359 Councelor Buckingham, 1615 01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:36.359 I would like to take up David's the 1616 01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:38.376 first question submission we've had 1617 01:08:38.400 --> 01:08:40.695 tonight from David regarding the 1618 01:08:40.719 --> 01:08:43.719 easement and access to the um adjoining 1619 01:08:44.400 --> 01:08:47.400 properties along Carile Street. Could 1620 01:08:47.679 --> 01:08:50.679 through you, mayor, could we please hear 1621 01:08:50.719 --> 01:08:52.616 the process that the council has 1622 01:08:52.640 --> 01:08:55.640 undertaken since the motion of August 6, 1623 01:08:57.600 --> 01:08:59.735 I believe, to consult with those 1624 01:08:59.759 --> 01:09:02.759 adjoining land holders and how we've 1625 01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:05.880 communicated that process back to them. 1626 01:09:06.560 --> 01:09:08.536 Am I going to Lachlan Johnson? 1627 01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:10.936 through you, Mayor. I might refer 1628 01:09:10.960 --> 01:09:13.175 to JaMears Akroyd to answer what has 1629 01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:15.096 happened since council's resolution of 1630 01:09:15.120 --> 01:09:18.120 the 6th seeking officers to negoti to 1631 01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:21.096 engage with the owners on Carile Street 1632 01:09:21.120 --> 01:09:24.120 regarding the rear access. 1633 01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:29.239 So through Matt um since the 6th of 1634 01:09:29.679 --> 01:09:32.679 August we have written to all of the 1635 01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:36.536 adjoining owners affected by the road 1636 01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:39.560 discontinuence seeking their feedback. 1637 01:09:39.759 --> 01:09:42.759 in relation to the proposal um and 1638 01:09:43.040 --> 01:09:46.040 I've received feedback from them 1639 01:09:46.400 --> 01:09:49.255 respectively from the different owners 1640 01:09:49.279 --> 01:09:51.096 um 1641 01:09:51.120 --> 01:09:54.056 confirming that they would like to 1642 01:09:54.080 --> 01:09:56.215 continue to be engaged through the 1643 01:09:56.239 --> 01:09:59.239 process um of the discontinuence um 1644 01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:02.776 prior to completion of the sale of the 1645 01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:05.800 land and the closure of the roads. Um, 1646 01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:09.880 it's been proposed that as well as the 1647 01:10:10.320 --> 01:10:13.320 section 173 agreement obliging 1648 01:10:14.159 --> 01:10:16.695 continued public access along the 1649 01:10:16.719 --> 01:10:19.719 roads, um, easements will be placed on 1650 01:10:19.840 --> 01:10:21.655 the titles of all of the affected 1651 01:10:21.679 --> 01:10:23.256 properties 1652 01:10:23.280 --> 01:10:25.655 u ensuring continued access in 1653 01:10:25.679 --> 01:10:28.536 perpetuity. 1654 01:10:28.560 --> 01:10:30.856 , through you may I might just add 1655 01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:33.880 to what Mr. Acro said. So, um, 1656 01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:35.976 councilors, there is a transaction 1657 01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:38.456 objective, um, which has been in place 1658 01:10:38.480 --> 01:10:40.376 from the beginning of this process. It's 1659 01:10:40.400 --> 01:10:42.135 in the draft resolution that you'll 1660 01:10:42.159 --> 01:10:44.616 consider this evening. It's in the ones 1661 01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:47.640 draft 173 agreement. Um, that says that 1662 01:10:47.840 --> 01:10:50.536 we will continue to provide pedestrian 1663 01:10:50.560 --> 01:10:52.695 and vehicle access to those properties 1664 01:10:52.719 --> 01:10:54.135 , from the rear, those properties on 1665 01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:57.159 Carlo Street from the rear. Um the to 1666 01:10:57.520 --> 01:11:00.520 achieve that council will place on the 1667 01:11:01.199 --> 01:11:02.616 property once the titles are 1668 01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:05.640 consolidated an easement um in favor of 1669 01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:07.896 those properties so that they will be 1670 01:11:07.920 --> 01:11:10.920 able to gain that access. I note that um 1671 01:11:11.440 --> 01:11:13.896 there are some complications in this. So 1672 01:11:13.920 --> 01:11:15.976 at the moment there are multiple land 1673 01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:17.976 parcels that make up the car park and 1674 01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:21.000 the laneways in the rear in in Cooh's 1675 01:11:21.440 --> 01:11:23.976 in the Cooh's car park. Some of them are 1676 01:11:24.000 --> 01:11:25.655 council land. 1677 01:11:25.679 --> 01:11:27.496 the parcels that you're considering this 1678 01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:30.215 evening to discontinue and to sell. Some 1679 01:11:30.239 --> 01:11:32.856 of them are parcels of land that held 1680 01:11:32.880 --> 01:11:35.816 by Coohl's. Um the car park is obviously 1681 01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:37.976 a contiguous piece of land with car 1682 01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:40.936 parks in there to create the easement to 1683 01:11:40.960 --> 01:11:43.016 provide access to those properties. It 1684 01:11:43.040 --> 01:11:45.736 needs to cover multiple titles. So the 1685 01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:48.215 easement will not just encumber the land 1686 01:11:48.239 --> 01:11:51.175 that you're considering sale on tonight. 1687 01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:54.199 It will also encumber land that is owned 1688 01:11:54.239 --> 01:11:57.239 by Coohl's. It is not possible to 1689 01:11:57.440 --> 01:12:00.440 establish those easements now until 1690 01:12:00.960 --> 01:12:03.960 those titles are consolidated. Um so 1691 01:12:04.320 --> 01:12:06.135 we've been very clear that that's the 1692 01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:07.736 process that we gone through. So, 1693 01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:10.376 subject to council's resolution decision 1694 01:12:10.400 --> 01:12:12.616 tonight, we will then work through a 1695 01:12:12.640 --> 01:12:15.416 process with Colts to consolidate 1696 01:12:15.440 --> 01:12:17.736 those titles to and engage with the 1697 01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:20.760 property owners along Carile Street to 1698 01:12:20.880 --> 01:12:23.416 put on those titles on that 1699 01:12:23.440 --> 01:12:25.736 consolidated title an easement that puts 1700 01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:27.655 into effect the transaction objective to 1701 01:12:27.679 --> 01:12:29.655 ensure that those properties have 1702 01:12:29.679 --> 01:12:32.376 pedestrian and vehicle access maintained 1703 01:12:32.400 --> 01:12:35.256 to them. 1704 01:12:35.280 --> 01:12:37.096 Thank you. 1705 01:12:37.120 --> 01:12:38.856 , another further question was a 1706 01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:41.880 followup. Council Buckingham or you 1707 01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:44.296 or do you want me? Someone else got a 1708 01:12:44.320 --> 01:12:44.695 question. 1709 01:12:44.719 --> 01:12:46.456 Sorry, Mayor. It's Justin here. Can I 1710 01:12:46.480 --> 01:12:47.175 go? C. 1711 01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:48.536 Yes, Council Halliday 1712 01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:50.936 , thank you, mayor. Um, just following 1713 01:12:50.960 --> 01:12:52.376 up on another question there. We heard 1714 01:12:52.400 --> 01:12:55.336 about pedestrian access here. Um, , 1715 01:12:55.360 --> 01:12:57.655 the question was, how are we going to 1716 01:12:57.679 --> 01:12:59.336 um, in fact, there were two questions. 1717 01:12:59.360 --> 01:13:01.175 One was about pedestrian permeability up 1718 01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:03.655 to Alfred Street and the other was about 1719 01:13:03.679 --> 01:13:05.816 um how do we how are we ensuring through 1720 01:13:05.840 --> 01:13:08.296 these agreements that the the escalator 1721 01:13:08.320 --> 01:13:09.896 from the car park doesn't just take you 1722 01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:11.416 directly into Coohl's and lock you in 1723 01:13:11.440 --> 01:13:13.655 there forever. So, how are we through 1724 01:13:13.679 --> 01:13:16.679 these agreements um ensuring that the um 1725 01:13:17.440 --> 01:13:20.215 that the permeability is preserved and 1726 01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:23.096 that we um encourage people to enter 1727 01:13:23.120 --> 01:13:24.856 into Carile Street rather than just shop 1728 01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:27.016 internally inside this new development 1729 01:13:27.040 --> 01:13:29.496 if it was to go ahead. 1730 01:13:29.520 --> 01:13:30.616 Lachlan Johnson. 1731 01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:32.376 thank you through you may thank you 1732 01:13:32.400 --> 01:13:33.736 councelor Hallidayiday for your question. 1733 01:13:33.760 --> 01:13:35.816 So there's kind of two elements to that 1734 01:13:35.840 --> 01:13:37.336 that you've touched on in the question. 1735 01:13:37.360 --> 01:13:39.016 So the first one is permeability through 1736 01:13:39.040 --> 01:13:41.896 the site. So in the section 173 1737 01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:44.695 agreement um there's requirements 1738 01:13:44.719 --> 01:13:46.856 there around pedestrian permeability. So 1739 01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:48.856 it's it's not to be a giant box. There's 1740 01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:51.416 meant to be pedestrian permeability 1741 01:13:51.440 --> 01:13:53.175 through the site. In addition to that, 1742 01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:54.936 there's some requirements there around 1743 01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:57.960 multiple entrances on Carile Street as 1744 01:13:58.400 --> 01:14:00.616 well. also furthering those objectives 1745 01:14:00.640 --> 01:14:03.175 around pedestrian permeability. When it 1746 01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:05.976 coMears to direct access to Carlile Street 1747 01:14:06.000 --> 01:14:08.456 or outside of the shopping outside of 1748 01:14:08.480 --> 01:14:11.016 the Coohl's um development area onto 1749 01:14:11.040 --> 01:14:13.416 Carile Street, we haven't negotiated 1750 01:14:13.440 --> 01:14:15.736 those specific details. But what we have 1751 01:14:15.760 --> 01:14:18.760 negotiated and um that I'm sure will 1752 01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:21.880 come to later on this evening is a 1753 01:14:22.320 --> 01:14:24.776 process of consultation and engagement 1754 01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:26.936 on the design. So where some of those 1755 01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:29.960 specifics around pedestrian access um 1756 01:14:30.480 --> 01:14:32.695 the the way that the car park will link 1757 01:14:32.719 --> 01:14:35.175 to other areas um that will be subject 1758 01:14:35.199 --> 01:14:37.576 to a consultation process. So Coohlooh's 1759 01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:40.536 have agreed and it's as articulated in 1760 01:14:40.560 --> 01:14:43.416 theou that prior to any planning permit 1761 01:14:43.440 --> 01:14:45.096 application being submitted which is 1762 01:14:45.120 --> 01:14:47.496 likely to be submitted to the state's 1763 01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:50.520 DFP process um that there is a bound 1764 01:14:52.000 --> 01:14:54.215 period of engagement with council and 1765 01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:57.239 through council with the community to 1766 01:14:57.760 --> 01:15:00.215 be able to input into the design. We 1767 01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:02.296 will consider I imagine those things 1768 01:15:02.320 --> 01:15:05.320 with regards to accessibility um to both 1769 01:15:05.760 --> 01:15:07.576 from the car park to the supermarket 1770 01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:09.576 but also to other shops in the precinct 1771 01:15:09.600 --> 01:15:12.600 as well as many other design items as 1772 01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:15.880 well. And then that process um is 1773 01:15:16.159 --> 01:15:18.536 enshrined in theouou. It's referenced in 1774 01:15:18.560 --> 01:15:20.776 the draft in the section 173 agreement 1775 01:15:20.800 --> 01:15:23.655 and it gives the best opportunity for um 1776 01:15:23.679 --> 01:15:25.736 council and the community to work with 1777 01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:28.760 Coohl's um to develop a detailed design 1778 01:15:28.880 --> 01:15:31.880 there that Coohl's um can then seek 1779 01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:34.920 approval from the state. 1780 01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:38.520 , councelor Buckingham, 1781 01:15:39.120 --> 01:15:40.776 I'd like to take up another question 1782 01:15:40.800 --> 01:15:42.776 that we heard in submissions tonight 1783 01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:45.800 around the heritage considerations 1784 01:15:45.920 --> 01:15:48.920 around the site. Will 1785 01:15:49.280 --> 01:15:52.280 the heritage just apply to that corner 1786 01:15:52.400 --> 01:15:54.936 bank building or additional structures 1787 01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:56.856 around the site? 1788 01:15:56.880 --> 01:15:58.135 Lachlan Johnson 1789 01:15:58.159 --> 01:16:00.776 through May. I might ask JaMears to 1790 01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:02.616 answer that question regarding the 1791 01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:05.096 heritage obligations in the section 173 1792 01:16:05.120 --> 01:16:06.856 and and which buildings it would apply 1793 01:16:06.880 --> 01:16:09.016 to. JaMears 1794 01:16:09.040 --> 01:16:10.776 JaMears 1795 01:16:10.800 --> 01:16:13.800 through you may so the um the council's 1796 01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:17.496 intention is that the section 173 1797 01:16:17.520 --> 01:16:19.576 agreement will require heritage 1798 01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:21.816 retention in and integration in all 1799 01:16:21.840 --> 01:16:24.296 affected properties with the sale 1800 01:16:24.320 --> 01:16:25.736 land consistent with the planning 1801 01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:28.760 scheme. any redevelopments must respect 1802 01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:30.695 and incorporate these heritage assets 1803 01:16:30.719 --> 01:16:33.576 and not just the Camden Street Bank 1804 01:16:33.600 --> 01:16:36.600 building. So, it will cover 1805 01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:40.840 matters such as the Victorian shop 1806 01:16:41.040 --> 01:16:42.695 fronts along the length of Carlile 1807 01:16:42.719 --> 01:16:45.655 Street as well. 1808 01:16:45.679 --> 01:16:48.679 Any further questions, councilors? 1809 01:16:49.280 --> 01:16:51.655 Councelor, is that you Halliday or 1810 01:16:51.679 --> 01:16:54.679 councelor Min? I can't quite see. 1811 01:16:54.880 --> 01:16:57.016 yeah, just wanted to follow up on some 1812 01:16:57.040 --> 01:16:59.736 of the other public questions. So we had 1813 01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:01.976 a question around the fraMears that 1814 01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:04.776 Coohl's can take. might be useful as 1815 01:17:04.800 --> 01:17:06.296 part of that to also explore what the 1816 01:17:06.320 --> 01:17:08.296 pathway looks like through the D the 1817 01:17:08.320 --> 01:17:10.135 development facilitation pathway in the 1818 01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:12.296 state government as well. I guess where 1819 01:17:12.320 --> 01:17:13.976 I'm getting to is what is within 1820 01:17:14.000 --> 01:17:16.056 council's remmits and what could be 1821 01:17:16.080 --> 01:17:19.016 potentially taken in terms of the state 1822 01:17:19.040 --> 01:17:20.135 government being the potential 1823 01:17:20.159 --> 01:17:23.159 decision-m authority here. Lachlan 1824 01:17:23.920 --> 01:17:25.175 through you may I might take the 1825 01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:27.736 line question I'll refer to JaMears to 1826 01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:30.760 answer the DFP question um so no there 1827 01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:34.376 are no line obligations in the 1828 01:17:34.400 --> 01:17:36.856 section 173 agreement so there's no 1829 01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:38.695 requirement that Coohl's commence the 1830 01:17:38.719 --> 01:17:40.695 development within a certain period 1831 01:17:40.719 --> 01:17:42.456 um and there are no penalties that 1832 01:17:42.480 --> 01:17:45.480 was another question that was raised 1833 01:17:45.679 --> 01:17:47.175 um 1834 01:17:47.199 --> 01:17:49.175 these were not included in the section 1835 01:17:49.199 --> 01:17:51.655 173 agreement so it Thomanning was subject 1836 01:17:51.679 --> 01:17:54.215 to negoti negotiation, but the the 1837 01:17:54.239 --> 01:17:55.816 agreements that are being considered by 1838 01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:57.816 council tonight, the very latest stage 1839 01:17:57.840 --> 01:17:59.896 drafts that are there have been the 1840 01:17:59.920 --> 01:18:02.215 subject of a protracted negotiation. 1841 01:18:02.239 --> 01:18:03.496 They're not things that we're able to 1842 01:18:03.520 --> 01:18:05.655 agree. One of the things that I would 1843 01:18:05.679 --> 01:18:08.679 also add is that um any penalties or 1844 01:18:09.280 --> 01:18:11.336 incentives that council could build 1845 01:18:11.360 --> 01:18:13.655 potentially build into a 173 agreement 1846 01:18:13.679 --> 01:18:16.679 or a a um sale of land contract are 1847 01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:20.776 likely to be minor and are not likely to 1848 01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:23.655 be motivating for Coohl's. 1849 01:18:23.679 --> 01:18:25.175 The mo the thing that's going to be most 1850 01:18:25.199 --> 01:18:27.096 motivating for Coohl's is going to be 1851 01:18:27.120 --> 01:18:28.936 their competitive advantage. They have 1852 01:18:28.960 --> 01:18:31.655 Woolworths across the road. um they need 1853 01:18:31.679 --> 01:18:33.175 to maintain they've got a commercial 1854 01:18:33.199 --> 01:18:36.199 incentive um to maintain their market 1855 01:18:36.480 --> 01:18:39.480 share. Um there's obviously dynamics at 1856 01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:42.056 play between the two supermarkets about 1857 01:18:42.080 --> 01:18:44.776 who moves first, who completes their 1858 01:18:44.800 --> 01:18:47.336 development first. Um and I would hasten 1859 01:18:47.360 --> 01:18:50.056 to add whilst um council has sold land 1860 01:18:50.080 --> 01:18:51.976 to Woolworth quite a few years ago and 1861 01:18:52.000 --> 01:18:54.135 and there has not yet been a development 1862 01:18:54.159 --> 01:18:57.096 on that site which is disappointing. It 1863 01:18:57.120 --> 01:18:58.936 has prompted Coohl's to spend a 1864 01:18:58.960 --> 01:19:00.456 significant amount of money in investing 1865 01:19:00.480 --> 01:19:03.480 in other land here to establish them in 1866 01:19:03.760 --> 01:19:05.896 a place them in a position so that they 1867 01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:08.215 can come to council seeking to purchase 1868 01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:09.655 the land that you're considering this 1869 01:19:09.679 --> 01:19:12.135 evening. So whilst there's not lines 1870 01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:14.536 or specific penalties or incentives um 1871 01:19:14.560 --> 01:19:16.776 as they can be within the limits of 1872 01:19:16.800 --> 01:19:18.376 how they could be built into those 1873 01:19:18.400 --> 01:19:21.400 agreements in place um we have tried to 1874 01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:24.215 use the market dynamics in play with 1875 01:19:24.239 --> 01:19:26.296 the two supermarkets to incentivize the 1876 01:19:26.320 --> 01:19:27.096 development 1877 01:19:27.120 --> 01:19:28.936 through you may if I just can add to 1878 01:19:28.960 --> 01:19:31.336 that just 1879 01:19:31.360 --> 01:19:33.896 I think the level of outlay that Coohl's 1880 01:19:33.920 --> 01:19:36.920 has made um is significant probably 1881 01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:39.960 close to I'd gather around 100 million 1882 01:19:41.040 --> 01:19:43.336 That's a significant incentive to get on 1883 01:19:43.360 --> 01:19:46.360 with development um for them. there's 1884 01:19:47.440 --> 01:19:49.736 a lot of holding costs there for the 1885 01:19:49.760 --> 01:19:52.456 moment. There's not a lot of as you've 1886 01:19:52.480 --> 01:19:55.416 heard there's a decline on the street. 1887 01:19:55.440 --> 01:19:57.416 So I think they've got significant 1888 01:19:57.440 --> 01:19:59.416 financial and commercial incentive to 1889 01:19:59.440 --> 01:20:01.256 move. Probably more so than Woolworth 1890 01:20:01.280 --> 01:20:02.936 had because the level of outlay that 1891 01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:05.336 they needed to make was smaller. But 1892 01:20:05.360 --> 01:20:07.256 certainly both the Woolworth and the 1893 01:20:07.280 --> 01:20:08.856 Coohl's 1894 01:20:08.880 --> 01:20:11.880 um competitive tension should see both 1895 01:20:12.320 --> 01:20:15.320 sites developed in the without too much 1896 01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:19.000 um holding. 1897 01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:21.336 Thank you. Who was I going to someone 1898 01:20:21.360 --> 01:20:23.256 else? Sorry. Was it JaMears again for the 1899 01:20:23.280 --> 01:20:25.256 second part? Lachlan 1900 01:20:25.280 --> 01:20:26.856 or you that that's the whole question 1901 01:20:26.880 --> 01:20:28.616 through you may yes JaMears will take the 1902 01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:31.640 question on the DFP. to that process 1903 01:20:31.840 --> 01:20:34.135 which we think is the likely process 1904 01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:36.456 that council sorry that Coohl's um 1905 01:20:36.480 --> 01:20:39.096 will pursue to um get planning 1906 01:20:39.120 --> 01:20:40.936 approval. 1907 01:20:40.960 --> 01:20:43.960 So through you may um and thanks for 1908 01:20:44.320 --> 01:20:47.256 the question. Um the council will be a 1909 01:20:47.280 --> 01:20:49.416 referral authority in key key 1910 01:20:49.440 --> 01:20:51.416 stakeholder with the ability to make 1911 01:20:51.440 --> 01:20:53.896 detailed submissions on design public 1912 01:20:53.920 --> 01:20:56.920 realm traffic heritage permeability um 1913 01:20:57.520 --> 01:21:00.520 as as part of any DFP application. So 1914 01:21:01.280 --> 01:21:02.856 we'll come to council first for 1915 01:21:02.880 --> 01:21:05.880 consideration. Um the section 173 1916 01:21:06.560 --> 01:21:09.256 agreement ensures certain obligations 1917 01:21:09.280 --> 01:21:11.976 are locked in at the land title 1918 01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:15.000 level regardless of the DFP. Um and 1919 01:21:15.040 --> 01:21:17.655 theou provides a structured engagement 1920 01:21:17.679 --> 01:21:20.679 process including council chaired 1921 01:21:20.880 --> 01:21:23.175 workshops early design input to shape 1922 01:21:23.199 --> 01:21:25.496 the proposal before lodgement and 1923 01:21:25.520 --> 01:21:28.520 recommendation to the minister. So 1924 01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:32.920 part of theou coh must present draft 1925 01:21:33.040 --> 01:21:35.416 concept plans to council officers for 1926 01:21:35.440 --> 01:21:38.135 review and discussion. council will 1927 01:21:38.159 --> 01:21:40.536 lead and chair up to three workshop 1928 01:21:40.560 --> 01:21:43.560 meetings with calls to attend and 1929 01:21:44.480 --> 01:21:47.480 respond to feedback. Community will have 1930 01:21:47.760 --> 01:21:50.760 the opportunity to for report feedback 1931 01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:53.800 to the workshops and we're envisaging 1932 01:21:54.239 --> 01:21:56.296 input from a wide section of the 1933 01:21:56.320 --> 01:21:57.816 community including residents and 1934 01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:00.840 traders and design experts and other 1935 01:22:00.880 --> 01:22:02.776 professionals. 1936 01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:04.776 the issues that will be covered in in 1937 01:22:04.800 --> 01:22:06.936 that process under theou include built 1938 01:22:06.960 --> 01:22:09.016 form, urban design, permeability, 1939 01:22:09.040 --> 01:22:11.496 heritage, open space and community 1940 01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:14.215 benefits. Um the outcoMears of those 1941 01:22:14.239 --> 01:22:17.175 workshops will be documented and inform 1942 01:22:17.199 --> 01:22:19.336 further iterations of the development 1943 01:22:19.360 --> 01:22:22.360 concept through the meetings um before 1944 01:22:22.400 --> 01:22:23.896 the referral and submission to the 1945 01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:26.135 minister. UlThomannately the minister has 1946 01:22:26.159 --> 01:22:29.159 the final decision to make. 1947 01:22:29.840 --> 01:22:31.896 Thank you councilors. Do we have further 1948 01:22:31.920 --> 01:22:34.920 questions? Councelor Buckingham, 1949 01:22:37.440 --> 01:22:39.336 some members of the community have 1950 01:22:39.360 --> 01:22:40.936 questioned 1951 01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:43.175 why the documents we're considering 1952 01:22:43.199 --> 01:22:46.199 tonight are working draft form. Is it 1953 01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:49.655 the usual process to delegate the 1954 01:22:49.679 --> 01:22:52.296 signing of such important documents to 1955 01:22:52.320 --> 01:22:55.320 the CEO or his delegate? Um, and does 1956 01:22:57.199 --> 01:22:59.736 the process laid out in the 1957 01:22:59.760 --> 01:23:02.760 recommendation tonight align with 1958 01:23:02.960 --> 01:23:04.776 council property and property sale 1959 01:23:04.800 --> 01:23:07.800 processes and procedures? 1960 01:23:08.159 --> 01:23:09.576 Lachlan. 1961 01:23:09.600 --> 01:23:11.576 Thank you, mayor. Through you. Um, thank 1962 01:23:11.600 --> 01:23:13.175 you, councelor Buckingham, for your 1963 01:23:13.199 --> 01:23:15.816 question. Um, in short, yes, this 1964 01:23:15.840 --> 01:23:18.456 process does align with normal practice 1965 01:23:18.480 --> 01:23:20.776 and council's obligations both under its 1966 01:23:20.800 --> 01:23:23.800 policies and under the relevant acts. Um 1967 01:23:24.320 --> 01:23:27.096 council doesn't usually provide publish 1968 01:23:27.120 --> 01:23:30.120 draft documents like this. Um but given 1969 01:23:30.320 --> 01:23:33.320 the community interest in here in 1970 01:23:33.360 --> 01:23:35.655 this particular item we made the 1971 01:23:35.679 --> 01:23:38.679 decision to do so in here. Um the 1972 01:23:39.199 --> 01:23:41.175 draft documents they are draft but they 1973 01:23:41.199 --> 01:23:43.256 are very close to being finalized. So 1974 01:23:43.280 --> 01:23:45.576 what council is considering this 1975 01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:48.215 evening um are nearly completed. There 1976 01:23:48.239 --> 01:23:49.896 are some very minor things that are 1977 01:23:49.920 --> 01:23:52.536 there as councilors in the community 1978 01:23:52.560 --> 01:23:55.560 can see the documents um the draft 1979 01:23:56.080 --> 01:23:59.080 section 173 agreement and draftou 1980 01:23:59.199 --> 01:24:01.175 align with the transaction objectives 1981 01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:03.096 and other objection objectives of 1982 01:24:03.120 --> 01:24:05.736 council um in terms of the delegation. 1983 01:24:05.760 --> 01:24:08.296 So section 111 of the local government 1984 01:24:08.320 --> 01:24:10.856 act of 2020 does allow council to 1985 01:24:10.880 --> 01:24:12.056 delegate its powers, duties and 1986 01:24:12.080 --> 01:24:13.576 functions to the CEO and council does 1987 01:24:13.600 --> 01:24:16.456 that very regularly. Um, in terms of 1988 01:24:16.480 --> 01:24:18.936 signing of such agreements, as I said 1989 01:24:18.960 --> 01:24:21.175 before, it's very usual for these to be 1990 01:24:21.199 --> 01:24:23.976 delegated to the CEO. Um, and this is 1991 01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:27.000 reflected in Port Phillips S5 instrument 1992 01:24:27.040 --> 01:24:28.695 of delegation to the chief executive 1993 01:24:28.719 --> 01:24:31.336 officer, which was last authorized by 1994 01:24:31.360 --> 01:24:33.496 council on the 20 on the 2nd of 1995 01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:36.520 September 2025. The signing of final 1996 01:24:37.280 --> 01:24:39.976 section 173 agreement would fall under 1997 01:24:40.000 --> 01:24:43.000 that delegation to the CEO. Um in cases 1998 01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:46.376 of a contract of sale which has a 1999 01:24:46.400 --> 01:24:48.936 monetary value exceeding the $1 million 2000 01:24:48.960 --> 01:24:51.960 threshold um the for the section 2001 01:24:53.040 --> 01:24:55.816 for the S5 entering into contract it's 2002 01:24:55.840 --> 01:24:57.655 usual that a recommendation will be made 2003 01:24:57.679 --> 01:25:00.056 by council to authorize the CEO to 2004 01:25:00.080 --> 01:25:03.080 execute a contract of sale. In this 2005 01:25:03.600 --> 01:25:05.976 case, the recommendations been made 2006 01:25:06.000 --> 01:25:08.296 for both the delegations 2007 01:25:08.320 --> 01:25:11.320 as per sections 3.5 and 3.9 um of the 2008 01:25:12.159 --> 01:25:13.736 resolution that you'll consider this 2009 01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:16.296 evening. Council's property policy is 2010 01:25:16.320 --> 01:25:19.256 not specifically relevant to the um item 2011 01:25:19.280 --> 01:25:22.215 of delegation. Its purpose is to provide 2012 01:25:22.239 --> 01:25:23.896 a sustainable framework for the 2013 01:25:23.920 --> 01:25:25.576 management of the property portfolio 2014 01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:27.175 into the future, taking into account 2015 01:25:27.199 --> 01:25:29.576 changes occurring within the portfolio 2016 01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:32.376 and the Port Phillip landscape. So too, 2017 01:25:32.400 --> 01:25:34.695 the road discontinuence and sale of land 2018 01:25:34.719 --> 01:25:36.856 policy. It doesn't specifically call out 2019 01:25:36.880 --> 01:25:39.880 the delegated authority. Um but it does 2020 01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:41.655 set out council's approach to the 2021 01:25:41.679 --> 01:25:44.536 discontinuence and sale of land of l 2022 01:25:44.560 --> 01:25:47.560 roads and laneways. Um council does, as 2023 01:25:47.920 --> 01:25:49.816 I said before, regularly delegate to the 2024 01:25:49.840 --> 01:25:52.840 CEO to negotiate and finalize contracts, 2025 01:25:52.880 --> 01:25:55.416 funding deeds, and other instruments. 2026 01:25:55.440 --> 01:25:58.440 Um, as with all delegations, these must 2027 01:25:58.639 --> 01:26:00.376 be exercised in accordance with any 2028 01:26:00.400 --> 01:26:02.615 restrictions and limits um that are 2029 01:26:02.639 --> 01:26:04.376 placed on that delegation and they must 2030 01:26:04.400 --> 01:26:07.400 be in accordance with the law. 2031 01:26:07.920 --> 01:26:10.536 Thank you, councilors. , councelor 2032 01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:12.856 Halliday 2033 01:26:12.880 --> 01:26:15.880 , thank you, mayor. Um 2034 01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:20.776 we've heard a bit about the um the 2035 01:26:20.800 --> 01:26:23.655 approval pathway here being through the 2036 01:26:23.679 --> 01:26:25.976 the development facilitation pathway 2037 01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:28.376 DFP. Um 2038 01:26:28.400 --> 01:26:30.936 what I'm just wondering if we could 2039 01:26:30.960 --> 01:26:32.536 clarify 2040 01:26:32.560 --> 01:26:35.560 here what expectations 2041 01:26:35.840 --> 01:26:38.840 our community might have towards for 2042 01:26:38.880 --> 01:26:40.376 example 2043 01:26:40.400 --> 01:26:42.776 um things like height 2044 01:26:42.800 --> 01:26:45.256 um for this development given that we 2045 01:26:45.280 --> 01:26:48.280 are not ulThomannately going to be um the 2046 01:26:48.400 --> 01:26:50.695 approver of it. and we are living in 2047 01:26:50.719 --> 01:26:53.096 a weird kind of limbo where um you know 2048 01:26:53.120 --> 01:26:55.896 it will go to the minister um and and we 2049 01:26:55.920 --> 01:26:57.896 live in an area which has not been 2050 01:26:57.920 --> 01:27:00.776 nominated as an activity zone by the 2051 01:27:00.800 --> 01:27:02.536 state government 2052 01:27:02.560 --> 01:27:04.695 um you know and and so you might also 2053 01:27:04.719 --> 01:27:06.135 give some context there about whether 2054 01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:08.936 this will be influenced by our sight 2055 01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:11.960 specific controls as well. 2056 01:27:12.320 --> 01:27:14.135 back to you Lachlan. 2057 01:27:14.159 --> 01:27:16.936 Thank you mayor. I'll start and then 2058 01:27:16.960 --> 01:27:19.960 JaMears may wish to add as well. So um 2059 01:27:20.480 --> 01:27:22.695 councelor Hallidayiday in your question 2060 01:27:22.719 --> 01:27:25.016 you you outline the context in which 2061 01:27:25.040 --> 01:27:26.776 we're working which in essence through 2062 01:27:26.800 --> 01:27:29.800 the DFP um the decision sits with the 2063 01:27:29.840 --> 01:27:32.840 minister and the DFP um provides the 2064 01:27:33.280 --> 01:27:34.936 framework there to incentivize 2065 01:27:34.960 --> 01:27:37.416 large-scale development. and so 2066 01:27:37.440 --> 01:27:39.175 whilst there are planning there are 2067 01:27:39.199 --> 01:27:41.016 planning controls that exist on the site 2068 01:27:41.040 --> 01:27:43.416 at the moment that do have limits on 2069 01:27:43.440 --> 01:27:46.215 height um the DFP application is likely 2070 01:27:46.239 --> 01:27:47.655 to take the minister's is likely to take 2071 01:27:47.679 --> 01:27:49.736 a different approach that's there the 2072 01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:51.736 current planning controls are outdated 2073 01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:53.655 so we have commenced a process and 2074 01:27:53.679 --> 01:27:56.215 council included funding in this year 2075 01:27:56.239 --> 01:27:59.239 2526 budget to update the sight specific 2076 01:27:59.840 --> 01:28:01.736 the built form controls that are 2077 01:28:01.760 --> 01:28:04.695 there that work has commenced um as part 2078 01:28:04.719 --> 01:28:07.719 of the engagement 2079 01:28:07.920 --> 01:28:10.056 process that we will undertake with 2080 01:28:10.080 --> 01:28:11.896 Coohl's that they've committed to do 2081 01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:14.920 prior to any likely DFP application. The 2082 01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:18.615 community input that we receive will 2083 01:28:18.639 --> 01:28:21.639 help us inform both a response to a DFP 2084 01:28:22.719 --> 01:28:25.719 application and also to our built 2085 01:28:26.000 --> 01:28:29.000 form controls. So in essence we will do 2086 01:28:29.840 --> 01:28:31.736 at the same as the application is 2087 01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:33.336 being developed and considered and 2088 01:28:33.360 --> 01:28:36.360 assessed we will com update the built 2089 01:28:36.480 --> 01:28:38.215 form controls. Now it's not likely that 2090 01:28:38.239 --> 01:28:39.096 we're going to get the built form 2091 01:28:39.120 --> 01:28:41.655 controls completely completed um in that 2092 01:28:41.679 --> 01:28:43.576 process but we will absolutely have 2093 01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:46.056 started that is there and that will 2094 01:28:46.080 --> 01:28:48.856 add weight to any feedback that council 2095 01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:51.416 provides to the state to the minister in 2096 01:28:51.440 --> 01:28:54.440 assessing the DFB application. So I 2097 01:28:54.800 --> 01:28:57.496 can't put a I can't give you a number 2098 01:28:57.520 --> 01:28:59.816 in terms of height. Um but in terms of 2099 01:28:59.840 --> 01:29:02.840 the process that's what we intend to do. 2100 01:29:04.719 --> 01:29:07.336 Okay. Councelor Min. 2101 01:29:07.360 --> 01:29:10.360 Thank you Mayor. Just wanted to explore 2102 01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:12.936 a potential worst case option. We've 2103 01:29:12.960 --> 01:29:14.856 obviously got a number of instruments 2104 01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:16.936 that we've provided draft versions of 2105 01:29:16.960 --> 01:29:19.816 the miu the section 173 and what that 2106 01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:21.655 looks like. Let's say hypothetically 2107 01:29:21.679 --> 01:29:24.296 that isn't agreed to subject to our 2108 01:29:24.320 --> 01:29:27.320 satisfaction. What occurs then? 2109 01:29:27.920 --> 01:29:28.695 Luckland 2110 01:29:28.719 --> 01:29:30.135 through you, mayor. We don't sell the 2111 01:29:30.159 --> 01:29:33.159 land. So, um the section 173 agreement 2112 01:29:34.239 --> 01:29:37.239 needs to be finalized in accordance with 2113 01:29:38.320 --> 01:29:40.615 the proposed delegation to the CEO as 2114 01:29:40.639 --> 01:29:43.639 does theou. If that cannot be achieved, 2115 01:29:43.840 --> 01:29:46.215 there is no sale. And just to clarify, 2116 01:29:46.239 --> 01:29:48.536 that's per what is provided in the draft 2117 01:29:48.560 --> 01:29:50.615 versions here tonight 2118 01:29:50.639 --> 01:29:53.016 through you may correct. So the draft 2119 01:29:53.040 --> 01:29:55.016 versions there have been some updates um 2120 01:29:55.040 --> 01:29:56.536 to those some minor tweaks that have 2121 01:29:56.560 --> 01:29:58.536 even happened earlier this week. Um but 2122 01:29:58.560 --> 01:30:01.416 those draft documents about 95% 2123 01:30:01.440 --> 01:30:02.936 completed. There's some minor things 2124 01:30:02.960 --> 01:30:05.175 that need to be resolved. Obviously, 2125 01:30:05.199 --> 01:30:07.896 anything that coMears out of tonight um 2126 01:30:07.920 --> 01:30:09.736 council's decision would then be 2127 01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:12.135 reflected if that needs to be in the 2128 01:30:12.159 --> 01:30:15.096 173 agreement in theou those documents 2129 01:30:15.120 --> 01:30:18.120 would then be executed. Um and then 2130 01:30:18.480 --> 01:30:21.480 they are required before settlement 2131 01:30:21.520 --> 01:30:23.416 takes place. So there is no transfer of 2132 01:30:23.440 --> 01:30:26.440 land um there is no sale until 2133 01:30:27.199 --> 01:30:30.199 those documents are um finalized and 2134 01:30:30.400 --> 01:30:32.056 executed. 2135 01:30:32.080 --> 01:30:35.080 Thank you. I think councelor J. 2136 01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:39.000 Thank you, mayor. Um, , two questions. 2137 01:30:39.440 --> 01:30:42.440 , there's very active members of the 2138 01:30:42.560 --> 01:30:44.215 community here that are very keen for 2139 01:30:44.239 --> 01:30:46.695 the funds to stay within the street or 2140 01:30:46.719 --> 01:30:49.655 within that community. Can we um just 2141 01:30:49.679 --> 01:30:51.416 get an understanding of how funds 2142 01:30:51.440 --> 01:30:53.496 generally are split up? And the second 2143 01:30:53.520 --> 01:30:56.520 question is public space. It's been also 2144 01:30:57.040 --> 01:30:58.456 a lot of interest from the community 2145 01:30:58.480 --> 01:31:00.776 about building public space into the 2146 01:31:00.800 --> 01:31:03.096 Cooh's development. Is public space a 2147 01:31:03.120 --> 01:31:05.416 respons whose responsibility is public 2148 01:31:05.440 --> 01:31:07.016 space? 2149 01:31:07.040 --> 01:31:07.655 That's all. 2150 01:31:07.679 --> 01:31:09.736 Lachlan. Thank you. 2151 01:31:09.760 --> 01:31:12.760 through you mayor. Um I might answer 2152 01:31:13.440 --> 01:31:15.336 the first question then JaMears can answer 2153 01:31:15.360 --> 01:31:18.360 the second one in the public space. Um 2154 01:31:18.400 --> 01:31:20.776 so coun through you mayor and 2155 01:31:20.800 --> 01:31:22.215 councelor Jay. So your question 2156 01:31:22.239 --> 01:31:24.376 regarding the use of the funds. So 2157 01:31:24.400 --> 01:31:25.736 what's proposed and what's normal 2158 01:31:25.760 --> 01:31:28.760 practice for the sale of public land? 2159 01:31:29.120 --> 01:31:31.416 is that so say for example laneways or 2160 01:31:31.440 --> 01:31:34.135 other things like that is that the 2161 01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:36.215 proceeds go into council strategic 2162 01:31:36.239 --> 01:31:38.776 property reserve. Council strategic 2163 01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:40.536 property reserve is unencumbered so it 2164 01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:43.496 can be utilized for um other 2165 01:31:43.520 --> 01:31:45.816 purposes. So for example um and what we 2166 01:31:45.840 --> 01:31:47.655 do use it for is investment in community 2167 01:31:47.679 --> 01:31:50.679 infrastructure. So we can purchase 2168 01:31:50.719 --> 01:31:53.655 additional land, we can invest in 2169 01:31:53.679 --> 01:31:56.376 existing community infrastructure. Um 2170 01:31:56.400 --> 01:31:59.400 what's proposed is that the proceeds of 2171 01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:02.520 the sale um would go into the strategic 2172 01:32:02.639 --> 01:32:05.016 property reserve. There has been um 2173 01:32:05.040 --> 01:32:06.296 feedback from the community. I think 2174 01:32:06.320 --> 01:32:09.256 we've heard it tonight as well. Um 2175 01:32:09.280 --> 01:32:11.336 and there was feedback in the community 2176 01:32:11.360 --> 01:32:13.496 engagement session as well as about the 2177 01:32:13.520 --> 01:32:16.520 proceeds of the sale being used locally. 2178 01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:19.336 Um that is a decision for council. So in 2179 01:32:19.360 --> 01:32:20.936 the draft resolution or in the 2180 01:32:20.960 --> 01:32:22.536 resolution that you're considering this 2181 01:32:22.560 --> 01:32:24.615 evening, it notes that there are some 2182 01:32:24.639 --> 01:32:26.856 largecale infrastructure planned large- 2183 01:32:26.880 --> 01:32:28.615 scale infrastructure investments in the 2184 01:32:28.639 --> 01:32:31.096 local area. So for example, the secura 2185 01:32:31.120 --> 01:32:33.655 library redevelopment, the recently 2186 01:32:33.679 --> 01:32:35.976 completed urban forest precinct plan 2187 01:32:36.000 --> 01:32:37.736 for Bellaclava. So most of that is 2188 01:32:37.760 --> 01:32:39.016 funded. There's then some additional 2189 01:32:39.040 --> 01:32:41.175 projects that are not currently funded. 2190 01:32:41.199 --> 01:32:43.336 and the streetscape works that are 2191 01:32:43.360 --> 01:32:44.936 currently we've consulted on. We're 2192 01:32:44.960 --> 01:32:46.376 currently working through what that 2193 01:32:46.400 --> 01:32:49.016 looks like. So at the it's the 2194 01:32:49.040 --> 01:32:51.175 prerogative of council that you um 2195 01:32:51.199 --> 01:32:53.175 through your normal budget process you 2196 01:32:53.199 --> 01:32:54.856 could consider allocating that funding 2197 01:32:54.880 --> 01:32:57.816 towards those projects in full or in 2198 01:32:57.840 --> 01:33:00.840 part. Um or you could consider um the 2199 01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:02.856 funding for other council initiatives as 2200 01:33:02.880 --> 01:33:05.816 well. We haven't made it specific um in 2201 01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:08.840 the resolution. Um we've provided the 2202 01:33:09.040 --> 01:33:11.256 option there for council to consider it 2203 01:33:11.280 --> 01:33:13.256 through the budget process when council 2204 01:33:13.280 --> 01:33:14.615 can weigh up all the different 2205 01:33:14.639 --> 01:33:16.296 initiatives the business cases for 2206 01:33:16.320 --> 01:33:17.976 different projects and consider the 2207 01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:20.056 allocation of funding accordingly. Thank 2208 01:33:20.080 --> 01:33:22.135 you. 2209 01:33:22.159 --> 01:33:25.159 And the public space is that JaMears 2210 01:33:25.280 --> 01:33:27.096 thank you through you mayor and thank 2211 01:33:27.120 --> 01:33:29.336 you for the question that so council's 2212 01:33:29.360 --> 01:33:31.736 public space strategy recognizes that 2213 01:33:31.760 --> 01:33:33.336 residents in this area have the lowest 2214 01:33:33.360 --> 01:33:34.536 amount of open space in the 2215 01:33:34.560 --> 01:33:37.175 municipality. Um because of that council 2216 01:33:37.199 --> 01:33:39.096 has invested heavily in acquiring and 2217 01:33:39.120 --> 01:33:40.936 starting to develop new public spaces 2218 01:33:40.960 --> 01:33:43.576 across Balaclava and Sin Kilda East in 2219 01:33:43.600 --> 01:33:46.600 the last year or two. In addition, a key 2220 01:33:46.800 --> 01:33:48.376 objective that council officers have 2221 01:33:48.400 --> 01:33:50.135 sought to secure in the negotiation with 2222 01:33:50.159 --> 01:33:52.296 Coohl's is the commitment for a minimum 2223 01:33:52.320 --> 01:33:54.615 of 250 square meters of open space on 2224 01:33:54.639 --> 01:33:57.175 the site. That's in addition to any 2225 01:33:57.199 --> 01:33:59.496 breezeways, laneways, and other 2226 01:33:59.520 --> 01:34:01.256 non-ontiguous space that might be 2227 01:34:01.280 --> 01:34:04.215 require might be provided. So through 2228 01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:06.936 the subdivision process and the DFP, the 2229 01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:09.960 intention is for the land once it once 2230 01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:13.256 it's determined in its locality to be 2231 01:34:13.280 --> 01:34:15.175 enshrined um as such through the 2232 01:34:15.199 --> 01:34:17.736 imposition of a public open public park 2233 01:34:17.760 --> 01:34:20.376 and recreation zoning designation in 2234 01:34:20.400 --> 01:34:22.536 the planning scheme. It's important to 2235 01:34:22.560 --> 01:34:24.856 say also that the 250 square meters is a 2236 01:34:24.880 --> 01:34:27.175 baseline secured now. the final 2237 01:34:27.199 --> 01:34:29.016 planning process can require more open 2238 01:34:29.040 --> 01:34:30.856 space depending on the scale of the 2239 01:34:30.880 --> 01:34:33.880 development. 2240 01:34:34.320 --> 01:34:36.456 Okay councilors now we are having asking 2241 01:34:36.480 --> 01:34:39.016 lots of questions. Do we want to move to 2242 01:34:39.040 --> 01:34:42.040 moving 2243 01:34:42.800 --> 01:34:44.776 the altre wreck or councelor Thomann I 2244 01:34:44.800 --> 01:34:46.215 might I'm just in because I do know 2245 01:34:46.239 --> 01:34:47.816 you've got a full meeting ahead and 2246 01:34:47.840 --> 01:34:50.840 there are so councelor Thomann 2247 01:34:51.199 --> 01:34:54.199 I've got three questions just to 2248 01:34:55.760 --> 01:34:58.760 talk the about the open space if they 2249 01:34:59.040 --> 01:35:01.816 decided to have a park on the roof is 2250 01:35:01.840 --> 01:35:04.840 that is that something that is supported 2251 01:35:05.280 --> 01:35:06.936 can that be considered open space Or 2252 01:35:06.960 --> 01:35:09.960 does it have to be at ground level 2253 01:35:10.560 --> 01:35:12.536 through you? It has to be at ground 2254 01:35:12.560 --> 01:35:15.016 level. 2255 01:35:15.040 --> 01:35:16.536 Yeah. Next question. Or do you want to 2256 01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:18.296 ask the two follow-ups? 2257 01:35:18.320 --> 01:35:20.135 I just asked maybe have you an answer 2258 01:35:20.159 --> 01:35:21.736 and then I can ask the other two 2259 01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:22.776 questions. 2260 01:35:22.800 --> 01:35:24.056 They just said no, it has to be at 2261 01:35:24.080 --> 01:35:25.256 ground level. So 2262 01:35:25.280 --> 01:35:26.296 ground level. Okay. 2263 01:35:26.320 --> 01:35:27.496 Yep. Follow up. Yeah. 2264 01:35:27.520 --> 01:35:30.135 Just car park. we're talking about, 2265 01:35:30.159 --> 01:35:32.215 you know, having to replace the public 2266 01:35:32.239 --> 01:35:35.239 242 card spaces as part of the car park. 2267 01:35:35.679 --> 01:35:38.456 So I assume that they will have on top 2268 01:35:38.480 --> 01:35:41.480 car parks to for their residents 2269 01:35:42.080 --> 01:35:43.576 because obviously they'll be residential 2270 01:35:43.600 --> 01:35:46.600 and so that's on top of the 142 and the 2271 01:35:47.040 --> 01:35:50.040 other question is as was asked is that 2272 01:35:50.159 --> 01:35:53.016 the hours of operations being at the 2273 01:35:53.040 --> 01:35:56.040 same as cos is open. can we 2274 01:35:56.159 --> 01:35:57.896 change that because you know there are 2275 01:35:57.920 --> 01:36:00.456 people use the car park at night. So is 2276 01:36:00.480 --> 01:36:03.256 that something that can be amended in 2277 01:36:03.280 --> 01:36:05.416 the resolution? And then the other 2278 01:36:05.440 --> 01:36:08.056 question I have is we talk about 2279 01:36:08.080 --> 01:36:11.080 affordable housing. is it possible to 2280 01:36:11.520 --> 01:36:14.520 ask to have some affordable rental 2281 01:36:16.239 --> 01:36:18.936 u you know to have you know if you want 2282 01:36:18.960 --> 01:36:21.655 to have an art gallery or community 2283 01:36:21.679 --> 01:36:24.536 spaces. Is it something that can also be 2284 01:36:24.560 --> 01:36:27.560 considered as part of the theou or 2285 01:36:28.320 --> 01:36:31.320 the section 17 2286 01:36:31.360 --> 01:36:31.896 three 2287 01:36:31.920 --> 01:36:34.376 three agreement as you know I know it's 2288 01:36:34.400 --> 01:36:36.135 not in there at the moment but it I 2289 01:36:36.159 --> 01:36:37.655 think it may be something that we 2290 01:36:37.679 --> 01:36:39.416 consider because obviously there'll be 2291 01:36:39.440 --> 01:36:41.655 the supermarket and there'll be other 2292 01:36:41.679 --> 01:36:44.056 parts including what's I know 2293 01:36:44.080 --> 01:36:45.976 currently is the shops that are 2294 01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:48.296 currently on Carl Street that might be 2295 01:36:48.320 --> 01:36:51.320 suitable for community use. 2296 01:36:51.600 --> 01:36:54.600 Okay. , Lachon, 2297 01:36:54.960 --> 01:36:56.776 , through you, mayor. So, um, with 2298 01:36:56.800 --> 01:36:58.936 regards to the car parking, those are 2299 01:36:58.960 --> 01:37:01.496 publicly accessible spaces. , so if 2300 01:37:01.520 --> 01:37:03.496 there was further additional car parking 2301 01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:04.856 requirements that were there, that would 2302 01:37:04.880 --> 01:37:07.816 be in addition. Um, I note that at the 2303 01:37:07.840 --> 01:37:10.056 moment, Coohl's operates until 11:00 2304 01:37:10.080 --> 01:37:12.615 p.m. So, the car park would be open 2305 01:37:12.639 --> 01:37:15.256 until 11 would be available for that 2306 01:37:15.280 --> 01:37:17.416 point until 11:00 p.m. So, that's that's 2307 01:37:17.440 --> 01:37:19.175 the basis on which we've been 2308 01:37:19.199 --> 01:37:22.135 negotiating today. So um no, there 2309 01:37:22.159 --> 01:37:24.776 haven't been any negotiations regarding 2310 01:37:24.800 --> 01:37:27.175 um overnight accessibility or things 2311 01:37:27.199 --> 01:37:30.199 like that. I would note that in um the 2312 01:37:31.040 --> 01:37:34.040 in the negotiations, Couls has been 2313 01:37:34.239 --> 01:37:36.376 very clear with council that an 2314 01:37:36.400 --> 01:37:38.856 accessible car park for them is a key 2315 01:37:38.880 --> 01:37:41.256 enabler for their business. So they 2316 01:37:41.280 --> 01:37:43.416 have a clear incentive to make sure that 2317 01:37:43.440 --> 01:37:46.135 that car park is not just accessible. to 2318 01:37:46.159 --> 01:37:48.056 the spaces that are there, but it also 2319 01:37:48.080 --> 01:37:50.615 is designed in a way that meets SEPTED 2320 01:37:50.639 --> 01:37:52.695 principles so that it's inviting um and 2321 01:37:52.719 --> 01:37:54.856 that people feel um that they can come 2322 01:37:54.880 --> 01:37:57.175 and park there and be able to access 2323 01:37:57.199 --> 01:38:00.199 the supermarket. um with regards to the 2324 01:38:00.560 --> 01:38:03.560 affordable housing. So um the affordable 2325 01:38:04.080 --> 01:38:07.080 rental so the current um one of the 2326 01:38:07.440 --> 01:38:08.456 things that we have been able to 2327 01:38:08.480 --> 01:38:11.480 negotiate recently was a commitment in 2328 01:38:12.480 --> 01:38:15.175 um the section 173 agreement to 2329 01:38:15.199 --> 01:38:17.016 affordable housing. We have not been 2330 01:38:17.040 --> 01:38:18.856 able to agree to a minimum that's in 2331 01:38:18.880 --> 01:38:21.016 there. It has been um but we have been 2332 01:38:21.040 --> 01:38:23.016 able to agree that there will be some 2333 01:38:23.040 --> 01:38:26.040 now through the DFP process. Um there 2334 01:38:26.480 --> 01:38:29.256 are affordable housing requirements 2335 01:38:29.280 --> 01:38:30.936 that are there now depending upon the 2336 01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:33.256 pathway which Coohl's choose to take. 2337 01:38:33.280 --> 01:38:35.896 There's different different requirements 2338 01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:38.376 associated with affordable housing um 2339 01:38:38.400 --> 01:38:40.695 that is in there. We have not been able 2340 01:38:40.719 --> 01:38:43.719 to negotiate anything regarding 2341 01:38:44.000 --> 01:38:47.000 rental or um owner occupier um to 2342 01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:51.000 date. So um whilst so I think that at 2343 01:38:52.639 --> 01:38:55.256 this stage um in the negotiations I 2344 01:38:55.280 --> 01:38:57.496 don't think it's likely that we'd be 2345 01:38:57.520 --> 01:39:00.215 able to achieve those um those further 2346 01:39:00.239 --> 01:39:02.776 commitments. 2347 01:39:02.800 --> 01:39:04.776 any further questions? Councelor 2348 01:39:04.800 --> 01:39:07.800 Buckingham. 2349 01:39:10.480 --> 01:39:13.480 One of the key Mearssages I heard 2350 01:39:14.320 --> 01:39:16.376 throughout the consultation and in my 2351 01:39:16.400 --> 01:39:18.296 conversation with community is the 2352 01:39:18.320 --> 01:39:21.095 desire to embed good quality design 2353 01:39:21.119 --> 01:39:24.119 principles in this development. , 2354 01:39:24.639 --> 01:39:27.639 could you please explain how theou sets 2355 01:39:28.800 --> 01:39:31.800 out a process for that? And could we 2356 01:39:33.040 --> 01:39:36.040 potentially include in theou that coohls 2357 01:39:36.639 --> 01:39:39.639 is to appoint an award-winning architect 2358 01:39:40.320 --> 01:39:43.320 for this design process. 2359 01:39:44.880 --> 01:39:45.576 Lachlan 2360 01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:48.536 through you may. So I'll let JaMears 2361 01:39:48.560 --> 01:39:49.816 answer the first part of that 2362 01:39:49.840 --> 01:39:51.336 question with regards to the second part 2363 01:39:51.360 --> 01:39:53.336 of the question about including in that 2364 01:39:53.360 --> 01:39:56.360 section in the MOU about um the 2365 01:39:56.960 --> 01:39:59.736 appointment of an award-winning 2366 01:39:59.760 --> 01:40:02.760 architect. um we put that to Coohl's 2367 01:40:02.880 --> 01:40:05.880 um in terms of including it in theou 2368 01:40:06.159 --> 01:40:08.135 um it's something that if they're happy 2369 01:40:08.159 --> 01:40:11.159 to include we can include in theou 2370 01:40:11.840 --> 01:40:13.496 JaMears JaMears will be able to answer 2371 01:40:13.520 --> 01:40:15.416 regarding the other ways that the 2372 01:40:15.440 --> 01:40:17.896 section 173 and theou outline design 2373 01:40:17.920 --> 01:40:19.416 requirements 2374 01:40:19.440 --> 01:40:22.440 thank you through you may so theou sets 2375 01:40:22.639 --> 01:40:24.776 out the framework for cooperation 2376 01:40:24.800 --> 01:40:27.256 between the council and coohals to 2377 01:40:27.280 --> 01:40:29.736 ensure that there's meaningful 2378 01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:31.816 consultation ation and including 2379 01:40:31.840 --> 01:40:34.840 feedback from the community on 2380 01:40:36.159 --> 01:40:38.536 design aspects, specific design aspects 2381 01:40:38.560 --> 01:40:40.456 during the pro proposed development 2382 01:40:40.480 --> 01:40:43.480 pre-application process. Um 2383 01:40:44.080 --> 01:40:46.376 we council's a key stakeholder in the 2384 01:40:46.400 --> 01:40:48.296 process and so is community. So there 2385 01:40:48.320 --> 01:40:49.976 will be community involvement in in 2386 01:40:50.000 --> 01:40:52.936 giving feedback through those 2387 01:40:52.960 --> 01:40:55.960 sessions that are held um as part of 2388 01:40:56.159 --> 01:40:59.159 that process. CO will provide council at 2389 01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:02.936 least four months prior advanced written 2390 01:41:02.960 --> 01:41:05.960 notice um to of its intention to 2391 01:41:06.400 --> 01:41:09.400 formally lodge a DFP application and as 2392 01:41:09.679 --> 01:41:12.679 part of that notification to enable 2393 01:41:13.119 --> 01:41:15.976 meaningful discussions to be held um 2394 01:41:16.000 --> 01:41:18.536 information such as massing activation 2395 01:41:18.560 --> 01:41:21.560 open space use loading and access and 2396 01:41:21.840 --> 01:41:24.840 built form will be provided. Um so the 2397 01:41:25.920 --> 01:41:28.296 consultation period and theou is very 2398 01:41:28.320 --> 01:41:30.856 specific that the purpose is to 2399 01:41:30.880 --> 01:41:32.615 ensure that council has sufficient 2400 01:41:32.639 --> 01:41:35.496 to review design concepts undertake 2401 01:41:35.520 --> 01:41:38.456 internal assessments um with the 2402 01:41:38.480 --> 01:41:41.480 relevant teams and all workshops 2403 01:41:42.239 --> 01:41:45.239 feedback and so forth to be contained 2404 01:41:45.360 --> 01:41:48.360 within that four month process. Um but 2405 01:41:48.639 --> 01:41:51.016 that there will be further iterations as 2406 01:41:51.040 --> 01:41:54.040 the meetings go on arising from that 2407 01:41:54.320 --> 01:41:56.376 feedback from council officers and from 2408 01:41:56.400 --> 01:41:59.095 the community. 2409 01:41:59.119 --> 01:42:01.496 Okay. further questions. Councelor 2410 01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:03.016 Halliday 2411 01:42:03.040 --> 01:42:04.776 Thank you mayor. We're getting to the 2412 01:42:04.800 --> 01:42:06.456 end of the questions. Um thank you all 2413 01:42:06.480 --> 01:42:09.256 for your patience. Um 2414 01:42:09.280 --> 01:42:12.280 what was my question again? 2415 01:42:12.560 --> 01:42:15.095 often in a large scale development 2416 01:42:15.119 --> 01:42:17.496 like this there are um public realm 2417 01:42:17.520 --> 01:42:19.736 works around the interface of the of the 2418 01:42:19.760 --> 01:42:21.655 development itself with the public realm 2419 01:42:21.679 --> 01:42:24.056 you know the bars and the nature 2420 01:42:24.080 --> 01:42:27.080 strips and the roadways around there. Um 2421 01:42:27.520 --> 01:42:30.376 I don't see any obligation here in these 2422 01:42:30.400 --> 01:42:32.936 papers to the public realm. How do we 2423 01:42:32.960 --> 01:42:35.576 propose to manage that with the if this 2424 01:42:35.600 --> 01:42:38.135 development goes ahead? 2425 01:42:38.159 --> 01:42:39.175 Lachlan 2426 01:42:39.199 --> 01:42:41.256 through you may yes councelor 2427 01:42:41.280 --> 01:42:43.655 Hallidayiday absolutely so um this is not 2428 01:42:43.679 --> 01:42:46.296 an island there's clearly interfaces 2429 01:42:46.320 --> 01:42:48.856 with the footpaths and the the 2430 01:42:48.880 --> 01:42:51.416 existing public realm um both on Carlo 2431 01:42:51.440 --> 01:42:54.376 Street and the other three frontages um 2432 01:42:54.400 --> 01:42:56.215 this particular because of some of the 2433 01:42:56.239 --> 01:42:57.976 other obligations that exist within the 2434 01:42:58.000 --> 01:43:00.376 section 173 agreement so particularly 2435 01:43:00.400 --> 01:43:02.695 the need for permeability through the 2436 01:43:02.719 --> 01:43:05.719 site the multiple entrances on Carile 2437 01:43:05.760 --> 01:43:08.296 Street to avoid that kind of us kind of 2438 01:43:08.320 --> 01:43:10.456 continuous wall that's a a really 2439 01:43:10.480 --> 01:43:13.480 terrible design outcome to avoid some of 2440 01:43:13.600 --> 01:43:15.336 those things. We've put specific things 2441 01:43:15.360 --> 01:43:17.736 in the 173 agreement that have made the 2442 01:43:17.760 --> 01:43:19.576 site more permeable. So there will be 2443 01:43:19.600 --> 01:43:22.600 more interaction between um the 2444 01:43:22.639 --> 01:43:24.856 development and the public realm. So 2445 01:43:24.880 --> 01:43:27.880 through the DFP process um we will 2446 01:43:28.400 --> 01:43:31.400 advocate um that the integration of 2447 01:43:31.840 --> 01:43:34.615 the the actual development with those 2448 01:43:34.639 --> 01:43:36.536 areas beyond just where there's those 2449 01:43:36.560 --> 01:43:39.560 direct um interfaces um should be 2450 01:43:39.679 --> 01:43:41.336 included and should be a condition of 2451 01:43:41.360 --> 01:43:43.256 approval that will form part of our 2452 01:43:43.280 --> 01:43:45.576 engagement with Coohl's and hopefully we 2453 01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:48.600 can find a um a good outcome that's 2454 01:43:49.119 --> 01:43:52.119 there um if not um and we need to rely 2455 01:43:52.239 --> 01:43:54.135 on the DFP process we will advocate 2456 01:43:54.159 --> 01:43:56.215 strongly ly um that they are conditions. 2457 01:43:56.239 --> 01:43:58.695 I would note as well that um council is 2458 01:43:58.719 --> 01:44:00.936 currently undertaking the streetscape 2459 01:44:00.960 --> 01:44:03.960 plan as well. So beyond the the hard 2460 01:44:05.600 --> 01:44:08.215 interface that's there, council is 2461 01:44:08.239 --> 01:44:11.239 intending to um upgrade the broader 2462 01:44:11.280 --> 01:44:13.256 public realm around this area and along 2463 01:44:13.280 --> 01:44:16.280 Carile Street to be able to um help to 2464 01:44:16.639 --> 01:44:19.639 revitalize the street. 2465 01:44:20.719 --> 01:44:23.719 Any final questions, further questions? 2466 01:44:25.440 --> 01:44:27.016 No, I can't see any hands. 2467 01:44:27.040 --> 01:44:28.695 Serge has his hand up. 2468 01:44:28.719 --> 01:44:31.719 Oh, I can't see. Yeah. All right. 2469 01:44:32.480 --> 01:44:35.336 Councelor Thomannman. 2470 01:44:35.360 --> 01:44:36.936 , this is just a question for the 2471 01:44:36.960 --> 01:44:39.095 future. Obviously, , this development 2472 01:44:39.119 --> 01:44:42.119 will be of several millions. Um, do the 2473 01:44:42.960 --> 01:44:45.960 normal condition of apply like any 2474 01:44:47.600 --> 01:44:49.095 development over a certain amount of 2475 01:44:49.119 --> 01:44:52.119 money 5% has to be spent on public art. 2476 01:44:52.960 --> 01:44:54.936 Will that, you know, that's maybe a 2477 01:44:54.960 --> 01:44:57.960 question for Mr. Wood. Um, does it 2478 01:44:58.000 --> 01:44:59.175 because obviously we're talking about a 2479 01:44:59.199 --> 01:45:00.695 lot of money for local artists 2480 01:45:00.719 --> 01:45:03.496 potentially. 2481 01:45:03.520 --> 01:45:06.520 , who am I going to Lachlan or is that 2482 01:45:06.639 --> 01:45:08.135 three? May we probably need to take 2483 01:45:08.159 --> 01:45:09.976 that. I think Paul's telling me it's not 2484 01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:13.000 a mandatory provision. , 2485 01:45:13.040 --> 01:45:14.376 yeah. 2486 01:45:14.400 --> 01:45:16.536 Okay. Um, councelor Buckingham, was 2487 01:45:16.560 --> 01:45:19.095 yours the last hand up? 2488 01:45:19.119 --> 01:45:21.736 Okay. 2489 01:45:21.760 --> 01:45:23.496 Sorry. Can I ask a question? 2490 01:45:23.520 --> 01:45:25.256 Oh, yeah. Councelor Consol. 2491 01:45:25.280 --> 01:45:25.576 Yep. 2492 01:45:25.600 --> 01:45:26.936 What would happen tonight if we were not 2493 01:45:26.960 --> 01:45:29.960 to support the sale? 2494 01:45:30.560 --> 01:45:32.296 What would happen tonight if we were to 2495 01:45:32.320 --> 01:45:35.016 not support the sale 2496 01:45:35.040 --> 01:45:37.336 through your mayor? So, this has been 2497 01:45:37.360 --> 01:45:39.736 about so obviously this was um voted 2498 01:45:39.760 --> 01:45:41.655 on by the previous council in August 2499 01:45:41.679 --> 01:45:44.456 last year to commence this process. Um 2500 01:45:44.480 --> 01:45:46.135 so, but there'd been a fair bit of 2501 01:45:46.159 --> 01:45:47.736 work that was undertaken prior to that. 2502 01:45:47.760 --> 01:45:50.296 So around 6 months um this proposal has 2503 01:45:50.320 --> 01:45:52.936 been here and as one of the residents um 2504 01:45:52.960 --> 01:45:55.655 eloquently pointed out um the the 2505 01:45:55.679 --> 01:45:57.896 structure plan has been in place now 2506 01:45:57.920 --> 01:46:00.856 for over 15 years. Um so this has been 2507 01:46:00.880 --> 01:46:03.880 long planned um that's here. So um in 2508 01:46:05.040 --> 01:46:07.095 terms of if there's no if the 2509 01:46:07.119 --> 01:46:08.776 resolution the decision of council 2510 01:46:08.800 --> 01:46:11.256 tonight is not to proceed with that um I 2511 01:46:11.280 --> 01:46:13.175 anticipate um that Coohl's would look at 2512 01:46:13.199 --> 01:46:15.095 an alternative development. they are 2513 01:46:15.119 --> 01:46:17.496 able to do something on the site um 2514 01:46:17.520 --> 01:46:20.056 without redeveloping the entire area. 2515 01:46:20.080 --> 01:46:22.296 and I suspect given that they've got 2516 01:46:22.320 --> 01:46:25.175 $und00 million invested in the land that 2517 01:46:25.199 --> 01:46:27.896 they would look to pursue that quickly. 2518 01:46:27.920 --> 01:46:30.920 Um so we would if there was no 2519 01:46:31.119 --> 01:46:34.119 decision here tonight to proceed. Um it 2520 01:46:34.239 --> 01:46:35.816 is unlikely that we would get some of 2521 01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:38.135 the other benefits in terms of open 2522 01:46:38.159 --> 01:46:40.936 space um the underground car park and 2523 01:46:40.960 --> 01:46:42.296 some of the other benefits that we've 2524 01:46:42.320 --> 01:46:45.320 been able to secure. Councelor 2525 01:46:46.320 --> 01:46:49.016 Buckingham, 2526 01:46:49.040 --> 01:46:50.615 I'll make this my final question for 2527 01:46:50.639 --> 01:46:53.639 tonight. Um, if we proceed with the sale 2528 01:46:54.719 --> 01:46:57.655 and the process as outlined, how will 2529 01:46:57.679 --> 01:47:00.679 council support local traders through 2530 01:47:01.679 --> 01:47:04.679 the process and the construction 2531 01:47:05.440 --> 01:47:08.440 um phase and how will we communicate 2532 01:47:08.800 --> 01:47:11.496 with the traders in particular going 2533 01:47:11.520 --> 01:47:13.655 forward? 2534 01:47:13.679 --> 01:47:16.056 through through you may so thank 2535 01:47:16.080 --> 01:47:17.896 you councelor Buckingham for your 2536 01:47:17.920 --> 01:47:19.175 question. It's something we have turned 2537 01:47:19.199 --> 01:47:22.199 our minds to. Um so clearly during a 2538 01:47:22.880 --> 01:47:24.936 construction process there's our local 2539 01:47:24.960 --> 01:47:27.016 law, there's requirements around 2540 01:47:27.040 --> 01:47:28.936 construction management plans and other 2541 01:47:28.960 --> 01:47:30.376 things that would be in place to try and 2542 01:47:30.400 --> 01:47:32.456 mitigate impacts. But the impacts of 2543 01:47:32.480 --> 01:47:34.376 doing of a development of this size are 2544 01:47:34.400 --> 01:47:35.736 not just going to be the construction 2545 01:47:35.760 --> 01:47:37.976 impacts. There's clearly going to be a 2546 01:47:38.000 --> 01:47:41.000 period of transition for for the 2547 01:47:41.119 --> 01:47:43.256 street, for the residents and for the 2548 01:47:43.280 --> 01:47:45.976 traders in there. So, council will turn 2549 01:47:46.000 --> 01:47:47.655 its mind to how it can work with the 2550 01:47:47.679 --> 01:47:49.816 traders association about making clear 2551 01:47:49.840 --> 01:47:52.615 as to what the proposal is. Clearly 2552 01:47:52.639 --> 01:47:54.135 working with Coohl's and Coohl's 2553 01:47:54.159 --> 01:47:55.655 commitments that they've given. We've 2554 01:47:55.679 --> 01:47:57.576 been able to negotiate around that 2555 01:47:57.600 --> 01:47:59.896 engagement process. We should not just 2556 01:47:59.920 --> 01:48:02.296 be engaging on the design outcoMears. 2557 01:48:02.320 --> 01:48:05.256 we should also be engaging on how the um 2558 01:48:05.280 --> 01:48:06.936 how the redevelopment will actually 2559 01:48:06.960 --> 01:48:08.856 occur. So there's opportunities that can 2560 01:48:08.880 --> 01:48:11.095 be there. I'd also note that there are 2561 01:48:11.119 --> 01:48:12.376 some things that have been included in 2562 01:48:12.400 --> 01:48:14.776 the one se in the section 173 agreement 2563 01:48:14.800 --> 01:48:16.856 as well to try and limit some of those 2564 01:48:16.880 --> 01:48:19.336 impacts. So, for example, um those 2565 01:48:19.360 --> 01:48:22.056 properties on Carile Street that require 2566 01:48:22.080 --> 01:48:24.615 the rear access there and that 2567 01:48:24.639 --> 01:48:27.416 council's committed to provide um the 2568 01:48:27.440 --> 01:48:30.056 section 173 agreement says that's not 2569 01:48:30.080 --> 01:48:32.776 just a condition post construction, but 2570 01:48:32.800 --> 01:48:34.776 that reasonable efforts have to be made 2571 01:48:34.800 --> 01:48:37.496 provided to maintain access during 2572 01:48:37.520 --> 01:48:39.655 construction and prior to construction 2573 01:48:39.679 --> 01:48:41.816 as well to help mitigate some of those 2574 01:48:41.840 --> 01:48:44.296 impacts um on the residents and the 2575 01:48:44.320 --> 01:48:46.776 traders. 2576 01:48:46.800 --> 01:48:48.376 Okay, councelor Hallidayiday, final 2577 01:48:48.400 --> 01:48:51.400 question and then I am going to put it 2578 01:48:51.679 --> 01:48:54.376 I'll make it a good one. Um, if I were 2579 01:48:54.400 --> 01:48:57.400 to put on my my black hat um and think 2580 01:48:57.920 --> 01:49:00.856 about this, we have obviously come a 2581 01:49:00.880 --> 01:49:03.175 long way with theou but anou is not 2582 01:49:03.199 --> 01:49:04.856 binding. 2583 01:49:04.880 --> 01:49:07.880 if um Coohl's decided to disregard 2584 01:49:10.000 --> 01:49:12.615 community um feedback through our 2585 01:49:12.639 --> 01:49:14.936 consultation process 2586 01:49:14.960 --> 01:49:17.736 um not take that into account and 2587 01:49:17.760 --> 01:49:20.536 just go to the to the minister for 2588 01:49:20.560 --> 01:49:23.560 approval for some for some proposal that 2589 01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:26.615 we thought was manifestly um you know 2590 01:49:26.639 --> 01:49:29.095 did not reflect the sorts of aspirations 2591 01:49:29.119 --> 01:49:31.816 that we have. What recourse would we 2592 01:49:31.840 --> 01:49:34.840 have at that point? 2593 01:49:37.520 --> 01:49:40.520 through you may so um you're right 2594 01:49:40.719 --> 01:49:43.719 councelor Hallidayiday that theou um the 2595 01:49:43.840 --> 01:49:45.976 section 173 agreement is binding it sits 2596 01:49:46.000 --> 01:49:48.936 on the title um theou is referred to 2597 01:49:48.960 --> 01:49:51.496 in the section 173 agreement theou is 2598 01:49:51.520 --> 01:49:54.135 not binding but theou will have 2599 01:49:54.159 --> 01:49:56.215 council's signature and coole's 2600 01:49:56.239 --> 01:49:58.215 signature so whilst it does not 2601 01:49:58.239 --> 01:50:00.376 necessarily legally binding it's most 2602 01:50:00.400 --> 01:50:03.016 certainly um and we will ensure that 2603 01:50:03.040 --> 01:50:06.040 it's public that report. Um there is 2604 01:50:06.400 --> 01:50:09.400 brand um reputation that goes with 2605 01:50:10.080 --> 01:50:13.080 that for council and Coohl's. I'd also 2606 01:50:13.199 --> 01:50:15.416 note as well that um Coohl's has 2607 01:50:15.440 --> 01:50:18.440 invested heavily in this site. They have 2608 01:50:19.360 --> 01:50:21.816 strong incentives for a highquality 2609 01:50:21.840 --> 01:50:24.296 development um that has their name 2610 01:50:24.320 --> 01:50:27.095 attached to it. Um so I think you know 2611 01:50:27.119 --> 01:50:28.776 the likelihood that we would end up in 2612 01:50:28.800 --> 01:50:30.936 that situation is hopefully mitigated by 2613 01:50:30.960 --> 01:50:33.960 by those those factors if that did 2614 01:50:34.320 --> 01:50:36.135 happen in there. Um obviously through 2615 01:50:36.159 --> 01:50:38.536 the DFP process the minister is the 2616 01:50:38.560 --> 01:50:41.560 decision maker um and the minister um 2617 01:50:41.600 --> 01:50:44.536 can would be um subject to um 2618 01:50:44.560 --> 01:50:47.560 advocacy from council. 2619 01:50:48.080 --> 01:50:50.456 Okay. Thank you. All right councilors. 2620 01:50:50.480 --> 01:50:53.480 Now we do have an offices 2621 01:50:53.600 --> 01:50:55.175 well actually I'm just going to I'm 2622 01:50:55.199 --> 01:50:58.199 going to call a 5m minute break because 2623 01:50:58.880 --> 01:51:01.016 it's been 2 hours and we need to I'm 2624 01:51:01.040 --> 01:51:02.856 going to we make it a tight 5m minute 2625 01:51:02.880 --> 01:51:05.736 break everyone. So we will be back at 2626 01:51:05.760 --> 01:51:08.056 9:01. Um so then we can get into the 2627 01:51:08.080 --> 01:51:09.736 debate and in the mean we do have 2628 01:51:09.760 --> 01:51:11.816 that officer's slightly amended 2629 01:51:11.840 --> 01:51:13.416 recommendation to get up on the screen. 2630 01:51:13.440 --> 01:51:16.440 All right see you back in five. 2631 01:51:19.600 --> 01:51:22.536 Yes. so you can hear me. Okay, folks, 2632 01:51:22.560 --> 01:51:24.695 we're going to get started. So, if 2633 01:51:24.719 --> 01:51:27.719 everyone could take their seats. Um, I'm 2634 01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:30.856 going to begin with Lachlan. Did you 2635 01:51:30.880 --> 01:51:32.456 need to talk through the slight 2636 01:51:32.480 --> 01:51:34.296 adjustments 2637 01:51:34.320 --> 01:51:37.095 to the recommendation on the screen? 2638 01:51:37.119 --> 01:51:39.896 , through you, mayor. Yes, I will. Um, 2639 01:51:39.920 --> 01:51:42.615 so there's some adjustments in various 2640 01:51:42.639 --> 01:51:45.639 parts. So, um, I'll read it. Um, but 2641 01:51:46.320 --> 01:51:47.976 I'll I'll do it as quickly as I I've 2642 01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:49.336 been advised by governance to read it, 2643 01:51:49.360 --> 01:51:52.360 but I'll do it as quickly as I can. 2644 01:51:53.119 --> 01:51:55.256 , so the revised officer's 2645 01:51:55.280 --> 01:51:57.575 recommendation is as follows. The 2646 01:51:57.599 --> 01:51:59.256 council having considered submissions 2647 01:51:59.280 --> 01:52:01.655 received in response to public notices 2648 01:52:01.679 --> 01:52:04.679 3.1 resolves to discontinue laneways 2649 01:52:05.199 --> 01:52:07.016 R3979, 2650 01:52:07.040 --> 01:52:08.936 R3743, 2651 01:52:08.960 --> 01:52:11.175 R3977 2652 01:52:11.199 --> 01:52:12.936 and R4141 2653 01:52:12.960 --> 01:52:15.095 as it considers that it may result in a 2654 01:52:15.119 --> 01:52:17.496 better use of land. The land has no 2655 01:52:17.520 --> 01:52:19.976 strategic value to council and council 2656 01:52:20.000 --> 01:52:21.896 on behalf of the community may obtain a 2657 01:52:21.920 --> 01:52:24.376 fair and equitable return on land that 2658 01:52:24.400 --> 01:52:26.056 was originally set aside for public 2659 01:52:26.080 --> 01:52:29.080 purpose. 3.2 resolves to sell the 2660 01:52:29.840 --> 01:52:32.056 discontinued laneways and land described 2661 01:52:32.080 --> 01:52:34.695 below for no less than market value to 2662 01:52:34.719 --> 01:52:36.536 an adjoining property owner. Cooh's 2663 01:52:36.560 --> 01:52:39.560 Group Property Developments Limited by 2664 01:52:39.840 --> 01:52:42.376 private negotiation to be determined to 2665 01:52:42.400 --> 01:52:44.536 be determined on an equitable value 2666 01:52:44.560 --> 01:52:47.560 basis. laneway R3979 that comprises land 2667 01:52:48.960 --> 01:52:51.960 contained in volume 8945 folio 006 with 2668 01:52:53.199 --> 01:52:56.199 an area of 269 2669 01:52:56.719 --> 01:52:59.719 m being lot 1 on TP 4388679C 2670 01:53:03.440 --> 01:53:06.440 laneway R3743 that comprises land 2671 01:53:06.639 --> 01:53:09.639 contained in memorial number 975 book 2672 01:53:11.520 --> 01:53:14.520 539 with an area of 44 square meters. 2673 01:53:15.920 --> 01:53:18.920 and 3.2.3 laneways R3977 2674 01:53:20.800 --> 01:53:22.695 and R4141 2675 01:53:22.719 --> 01:53:25.719 that comprise land contained in volume 2676 01:53:25.760 --> 01:53:28.760 268 folio 542 with an area of 94 m and 2677 01:53:31.360 --> 01:53:34.360 167 m respectively being lot one on TP 2678 01:53:35.280 --> 01:53:38.280 923 236K 2679 01:53:38.560 --> 01:53:41.560 3.2 2 4 8 28 Alfred Street, Bellaclava, 2680 01:53:44.000 --> 01:53:46.135 Victoria 3182 2681 01:53:46.159 --> 01:53:48.296 that comprises land with an area of 2682 01:53:48.320 --> 01:53:50.056 1,053 2683 01:53:50.080 --> 01:53:53.080 m squared contained in volume 3412, 2684 01:53:53.199 --> 01:53:56.199 Folio 302 being lot one on plan 2685 01:53:56.480 --> 01:53:59.480 TP846586J 2686 01:54:00.159 --> 01:54:02.456 and volume 2437, 2687 01:54:02.480 --> 01:54:05.480 Folio 329 being lot one on plan TP 2688 01:54:06.480 --> 01:54:08.456 748693. 2689 01:54:08.480 --> 01:54:10.536 3E 2690 01:54:10.560 --> 01:54:13.560 nearly done. Um 3.25 2549 2691 01:54:14.719 --> 01:54:17.175 to 53 Nelson Street, Bellaclava, 2692 01:54:17.199 --> 01:54:19.896 Victoria 3182 that comprises land with 2693 01:54:19.920 --> 01:54:22.456 an area of 614 2694 01:54:22.480 --> 01:54:25.480 me squared contained in volume 8945 2695 01:54:26.239 --> 01:54:29.239 folio 8 being lot one on plan TP 4386 2696 01:54:31.520 --> 01:54:34.520 79C volume 6274 folio 720 being lot one 2697 01:54:37.520 --> 01:54:40.520 on plan TP904522R 2698 01:54:40.800 --> 01:54:43.800 volume 592 28 folio 437 being lot one on 2699 01:54:45.760 --> 01:54:48.135 plan TP2322 2700 01:54:48.159 --> 01:54:51.159 52P and volume 5968 folio 409 being lot 2701 01:54:53.599 --> 01:54:56.599 one on plan TP245869 2702 01:54:57.920 --> 01:54:59.016 W 2703 01:54:59.040 --> 01:55:00.456 can I ask do we just need to read the 2704 01:55:00.480 --> 01:55:02.856 red bits though or is this this all has 2705 01:55:02.880 --> 01:55:04.296 changed sorry I'm not across it 2706 01:55:04.320 --> 01:55:05.816 I've been advised I need to read the 2707 01:55:05.840 --> 01:55:07.816 whole thing you 2708 01:55:07.840 --> 01:55:10.840 usually we just I might just skip ahead 2709 01:55:11.679 --> 01:55:12.056 So 2710 01:55:12.080 --> 01:55:13.655 yeah, sorry cuz otherwise we're going to 2711 01:55:13.679 --> 01:55:15.736 be here for a very long . 2712 01:55:15.760 --> 01:55:17.336 I'll put you all out of your misery 2713 01:55:17.360 --> 01:55:20.135 and me out of mine. So 3.3 has not 2714 01:55:20.159 --> 01:55:23.159 changed. Um 3.4 has also not changed. 2715 01:55:24.239 --> 01:55:27.239 3.5 has changed. so as is on the 2716 01:55:27.920 --> 01:55:30.920 screen, it includes the added words 2717 01:55:30.960 --> 01:55:33.416 section 173 agreement and subject to the 2718 01:55:33.440 --> 01:55:36.440 conditions specified in 3.6. 2719 01:55:37.199 --> 01:55:40.199 then in section 3.5 2720 01:55:40.480 --> 01:55:42.056 3.53 2721 01:55:42.080 --> 01:55:45.080 has been added to say securing access 2722 01:55:45.119 --> 01:55:47.496 for pedestrians and vehicles including 2723 01:55:47.520 --> 01:55:49.416 by members of the public to the rear of 2724 01:55:49.440 --> 01:55:52.440 246 to 2526 2725 01:55:52.800 --> 01:55:55.800 258 260 262 264 to 266 and 268 and 2726 01:56:00.159 --> 01:56:01.736 270272 2727 01:56:01.760 --> 01:56:04.760 of Carlile Street Bellaclava. 2728 01:56:05.760 --> 01:56:08.760 then 3.6 is new. So I'll read this in 2729 01:56:10.080 --> 01:56:13.080 its entirety in respect of 3.53 above 2730 01:56:14.639 --> 01:56:17.575 directs the CEO to resolve the following 2731 01:56:17.599 --> 01:56:20.599 to their satisfaction. 3.61 61. The 2732 01:56:20.719 --> 01:56:22.615 implementation and registration of a 2733 01:56:22.639 --> 01:56:25.639 section 173 agreement prior to 2734 01:56:26.480 --> 01:56:29.480 settlement of the sale, which provides a 2735 01:56:29.840 --> 01:56:32.215 an obligation to maintain ongoing access 2736 01:56:32.239 --> 01:56:35.239 to the rear properties outlined, and B 2737 01:56:35.760 --> 01:56:37.575 the registration of a carriageway 2738 01:56:37.599 --> 01:56:40.599 easement referred to in 3.62 below and 2739 01:56:43.920 --> 01:56:46.920 3.62 62 securing a carriageway easement 2740 01:56:46.960 --> 01:56:48.536 for the benefit of the properties 2741 01:56:48.560 --> 01:56:51.560 outlined. A few minor additional 2742 01:56:51.599 --> 01:56:54.376 changes. So in 3.7 it's added the word 2743 01:56:54.400 --> 01:56:57.400 that confirms council will enter into a 2744 01:56:57.679 --> 01:56:59.575 memorandum of understanding upon 2745 01:56:59.599 --> 01:57:02.376 execution of the contract of sale. And 2746 01:57:02.400 --> 01:57:05.400 then in 3.8 adds the word road to the 2747 01:57:06.400 --> 01:57:08.536 end of the paragraph. 2748 01:57:08.560 --> 01:57:11.560 Two to go. 3.9 authorizes the CEO to do 2749 01:57:13.040 --> 01:57:15.175 all things necessary and at the end of 2750 01:57:15.199 --> 01:57:17.655 that paragraph it adds specifically to 2751 01:57:17.679 --> 01:57:20.056 include alongside the contract sales 2752 01:57:20.080 --> 01:57:22.536 section 173 agreement and memorandum of 2753 01:57:22.560 --> 01:57:25.560 understanding and then finally um 2754 01:57:25.599 --> 01:57:27.575 directs that the executed copies of the 2755 01:57:27.599 --> 01:57:29.736 section 173 agreement and memorandum of 2756 01:57:29.760 --> 01:57:31.736 understanding are published on council's 2757 01:57:31.760 --> 01:57:33.575 website. 2758 01:57:33.599 --> 01:57:36.456 Thank you. Okay, councilors, we have an 2759 01:57:36.480 --> 01:57:38.936 officer's recommendation. Do we have 2760 01:57:38.960 --> 01:57:41.960 a mover or something? Yeah, councelor 2761 01:57:42.000 --> 01:57:43.416 Buckingham to move. And do I have a 2762 01:57:43.440 --> 01:57:45.336 seconder? Councelor Halliday. Councelor 2763 01:57:45.360 --> 01:57:48.360 Buckingham, you have four minutes. 2764 01:57:50.239 --> 01:57:53.239 I spend a lot of on Carile Street. 2765 01:57:54.239 --> 01:57:56.615 I think about it all of the and 2766 01:57:56.639 --> 01:57:58.215 I've spoken with many people in our 2767 01:57:58.239 --> 01:58:00.056 community about their hopes and their 2768 01:58:00.080 --> 01:58:03.080 fears for Bellaclava and Carlile Street. 2769 01:58:04.719 --> 01:58:07.719 The people I talk to want to see a 2770 01:58:07.760 --> 01:58:09.816 street revitalized 2771 01:58:09.840 --> 01:58:12.776 with shops reopening, 2772 01:58:12.800 --> 01:58:14.936 safer streets, 2773 01:58:14.960 --> 01:58:17.960 more affordable housing and mixed types 2774 01:58:18.239 --> 01:58:20.215 of housing. 2775 01:58:20.239 --> 01:58:23.239 And I often hear about the desire for 2776 01:58:23.520 --> 01:58:26.520 more public space, even a town square 2777 01:58:27.920 --> 01:58:30.920 where we can gather together as a 2778 01:58:30.960 --> 01:58:32.695 community. 2779 01:58:32.719 --> 01:58:35.719 I often hear calls for more greenery and 2780 01:58:35.760 --> 01:58:38.760 tree cover canopy 2781 01:58:39.199 --> 01:58:42.056 for buildings that are accessible with 2782 01:58:42.080 --> 01:58:45.080 public facilities, 2783 01:58:45.199 --> 01:58:48.199 easy and accessible parking and active 2784 01:58:48.639 --> 01:58:50.856 transport options. 2785 01:58:50.880 --> 01:58:53.095 People all want to see greater 2786 01:58:53.119 --> 01:58:56.056 investment in our street and our public 2787 01:58:56.080 --> 01:58:58.615 spaces. Not just where we spend money, 2788 01:58:58.639 --> 01:59:01.256 such as in supermarkets, but also in our 2789 01:59:01.280 --> 01:59:04.280 public third spaces like our libraries. 2790 01:59:05.360 --> 01:59:07.655 And everybody wants to preserve the 2791 01:59:07.679 --> 01:59:10.679 unique character of Balaclava. 2792 01:59:11.520 --> 01:59:14.520 Tonight's decision 2793 01:59:14.880 --> 01:59:17.880 is a big step forwards in determining 2794 01:59:18.719 --> 01:59:21.719 Balaclava's future. 2795 01:59:21.760 --> 01:59:24.760 And we as a council and as a community 2796 01:59:24.960 --> 01:59:27.736 have come a long way since the former 2797 01:59:27.760 --> 01:59:29.896 councilors kicked off this process in 2798 01:59:29.920 --> 01:59:32.776 August 2024. 2799 01:59:32.800 --> 01:59:35.416 I want to thank the many community 2800 01:59:35.440 --> 01:59:37.336 members that have shared their ideas, 2801 01:59:37.360 --> 01:59:39.496 their aspirations. 2802 01:59:39.520 --> 01:59:41.095 I especially want to mention the 2803 01:59:41.119 --> 01:59:43.016 volunteers that have given so much of 2804 01:59:43.040 --> 01:59:45.655 their and expertise as part of the 2805 01:59:45.679 --> 01:59:48.679 better balaclava group. 2806 01:59:48.800 --> 01:59:50.695 I want to acknowledge the Carile Street 2807 01:59:50.719 --> 01:59:53.719 Traders Association and the land owners 2808 01:59:53.840 --> 01:59:56.296 along Carile Street. 2809 01:59:56.320 --> 01:59:58.296 There are also many local community 2810 01:59:58.320 --> 02:00:01.175 organizations that are based out of 2811 02:00:01.199 --> 02:00:03.976 Carile Street. Just last week I was at 2812 02:00:04.000 --> 02:00:07.000 the celebration of 45 years of the 2813 02:00:08.080 --> 02:00:10.856 uniting engagement hub that provides a 2814 02:00:10.880 --> 02:00:13.736 place of connection and hospitality 2815 02:00:13.760 --> 02:00:16.760 for some of um members of our community 2816 02:00:17.040 --> 02:00:18.776 that really don't have other places to 2817 02:00:18.800 --> 02:00:21.336 go. All of this activity and life 2818 02:00:21.360 --> 02:00:23.896 happens on our car street. I also want 2819 02:00:23.920 --> 02:00:26.135 to acknowledge the council officers who 2820 02:00:26.159 --> 02:00:28.135 have put in countless hours and worked 2821 02:00:28.159 --> 02:00:30.536 incredibly hard on this project and who 2822 02:00:30.560 --> 02:00:33.560 when the new counselors were elected and 2823 02:00:34.719 --> 02:00:37.719 we, you know, we really demanded 2824 02:00:38.080 --> 02:00:41.080 a level of consultation and a process 2825 02:00:41.760 --> 02:00:44.376 of a high standard that they rose to 2826 02:00:44.400 --> 02:00:46.856 that demand. 2827 02:00:46.880 --> 02:00:49.416 I've always believed that this site and 2828 02:00:49.440 --> 02:00:51.816 this project can only succeed if 2829 02:00:51.840 --> 02:00:54.840 council, the community, traders, and 2830 02:00:55.440 --> 02:00:58.440 coohals all work together around our 2831 02:00:58.560 --> 02:01:01.560 shared values. And that's why I was 2832 02:01:02.080 --> 02:01:05.080 incredibly proud of the meaningful 2833 02:01:06.239 --> 02:01:09.016 consultation and process that was that 2834 02:01:09.040 --> 02:01:11.896 we've been through and especially the 2835 02:01:11.920 --> 02:01:14.296 expo style town hall meeting that we had 2836 02:01:14.320 --> 02:01:16.695 in this building in May. 2837 02:01:16.719 --> 02:01:18.776 Throughout this process, we have heard a 2838 02:01:18.800 --> 02:01:21.800 range of opinions and views. Some are 2839 02:01:22.000 --> 02:01:25.000 opposed to any sale and change, but most 2840 02:01:25.840 --> 02:01:28.840 people are open to the idea of a 2841 02:01:28.880 --> 02:01:31.336 development if we can protect the 2842 02:01:31.360 --> 02:01:34.296 community's interests. And that feedback 2843 02:01:34.320 --> 02:01:36.856 has been essential in shaping the 2844 02:01:36.880 --> 02:01:38.776 process and the path forward and the 2845 02:01:38.800 --> 02:01:41.256 negotiation that the council has 2846 02:01:41.280 --> 02:01:44.280 undertaken with Coohl's. 2847 02:01:44.480 --> 02:01:46.296 And that's something I really want to 2848 02:01:46.320 --> 02:01:49.320 emphasize that this isn't 2849 02:01:51.040 --> 02:01:54.040 a development where we hold 2850 02:01:54.239 --> 02:01:57.239 all of the levers. It is a negotiation. 2851 02:01:58.480 --> 02:02:01.416 We don't own the whole site. And one of 2852 02:02:01.440 --> 02:02:03.256 the challenges with this process is that 2853 02:02:03.280 --> 02:02:04.776 we're talking about a transaction of 2854 02:02:04.800 --> 02:02:07.800 land. We are not at a design or planning 2855 02:02:08.239 --> 02:02:10.536 stage at this tonight. That's not what 2856 02:02:10.560 --> 02:02:12.776 the decision tonight is about. So, one 2857 02:02:12.800 --> 02:02:14.536 of the challenges is how do we set up 2858 02:02:14.560 --> 02:02:16.695 the guard rails to protect the community 2859 02:02:16.719 --> 02:02:19.175 interests and we've needed to do that 2860 02:02:19.199 --> 02:02:21.896 through a 173 and through contract of 2861 02:02:21.920 --> 02:02:23.016 sale. 2862 02:02:23.040 --> 02:02:24.536 Councelor Buckingham, I am going to have 2863 02:02:24.560 --> 02:02:26.856 to ask you to wrap up. I'm really sorry. 2864 02:02:26.880 --> 02:02:28.135 Yep. 2865 02:02:28.159 --> 02:02:30.296 Don't worry, you can. I have a lot more 2866 02:02:30.320 --> 02:02:32.776 I need to say, so I'm going to have to 2867 02:02:32.800 --> 02:02:34.695 say it in closing. 2868 02:02:34.719 --> 02:02:37.496 Um, and I'll just have to speak really 2869 02:02:37.520 --> 02:02:38.615 fast. 2870 02:02:38.639 --> 02:02:40.296 Yes, you'll have two minutes. So, thank 2871 02:02:40.320 --> 02:02:41.896 you. Okay, Council Halliday, I believe 2872 02:02:41.920 --> 02:02:43.896 you have three minutes. Thank you. 2873 02:02:43.920 --> 02:02:46.296 , 2874 02:02:46.320 --> 02:02:49.320 thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Um, 2875 02:02:49.360 --> 02:02:52.360 it was a year ago, almost to a week that 2876 02:02:52.719 --> 02:02:55.719 um that Jerry, Helen, and I um staged 2877 02:02:55.760 --> 02:02:58.760 the first Carile Street forum where we 2878 02:02:59.040 --> 02:03:02.040 drew the community's attention to um the 2879 02:03:02.239 --> 02:03:05.239 sale of this land and the the risks and 2880 02:03:05.520 --> 02:03:07.655 opportunities of that. It was it was not 2881 02:03:07.679 --> 02:03:10.135 a a nimi activity of um you know 2882 02:03:10.159 --> 02:03:12.695 anti-development you know placard 2883 02:03:12.719 --> 02:03:14.856 waving. It was an incredibly 2884 02:03:14.880 --> 02:03:17.880 constructive um you know forum where 2885 02:03:18.239 --> 02:03:20.215 people architects and local community 2886 02:03:20.239 --> 02:03:22.296 members were able to speak at that at 2887 02:03:22.320 --> 02:03:23.976 that forum. I said that we shouldn't 2888 02:03:24.000 --> 02:03:26.615 sell the land. Um I felt very strongly 2889 02:03:26.639 --> 02:03:29.639 and I you know I still do um that the 2890 02:03:30.080 --> 02:03:32.856 process that we're in here is not the 2891 02:03:32.880 --> 02:03:35.175 best process and I have advocated for 2892 02:03:35.199 --> 02:03:38.199 that strongly but um that view did not 2893 02:03:38.560 --> 02:03:41.560 prevail. Thus, myself and Libby have 2894 02:03:41.679 --> 02:03:44.679 worked over the last year to make the 2895 02:03:44.880 --> 02:03:47.736 best of the situation we have and I 2896 02:03:47.760 --> 02:03:50.296 think that we have um you know along 2897 02:03:50.320 --> 02:03:52.056 with the rest of our members of council 2898 02:03:52.080 --> 02:03:55.080 and the officers um had a huge impact on 2899 02:03:56.080 --> 02:03:58.056 um where we started a year ago to where 2900 02:03:58.080 --> 02:04:01.080 we are now. Um we've seen a 2901 02:04:01.119 --> 02:04:03.496 best-in-class community consultation. 2902 02:04:03.520 --> 02:04:05.736 We've seen significant renegoti 2903 02:04:05.760 --> 02:04:08.760 renegotiation and movement from Kohl's 2904 02:04:08.800 --> 02:04:11.800 um on the the kind of transaction and 2905 02:04:12.560 --> 02:04:14.296 the legal agreements here. We've seen 2906 02:04:14.320 --> 02:04:17.320 anou established. Um this has addressed 2907 02:04:18.880 --> 02:04:21.880 many but not all of my concerns um about 2908 02:04:22.560 --> 02:04:25.560 the um the sale. But ulThomannately on 2909 02:04:26.320 --> 02:04:28.215 balance we need to see the 2910 02:04:28.239 --> 02:04:30.776 revitalization of Carile Street. And 2911 02:04:30.800 --> 02:04:32.615 what we have achieved here I think is a 2912 02:04:32.639 --> 02:04:35.639 great step for us um and enabling that 2913 02:04:37.119 --> 02:04:40.119 even despite my misgivings. Um this here 2914 02:04:41.840 --> 02:04:43.976 will also see significant revitalization 2915 02:04:44.000 --> 02:04:46.215 in Carl Street but also in the wider 2916 02:04:46.239 --> 02:04:49.175 area in the libraries in the the 2917 02:04:49.199 --> 02:04:50.936 streetscape surrounding it through the 2918 02:04:50.960 --> 02:04:52.936 urban forest strategy and in the 2919 02:04:52.960 --> 02:04:55.575 streetscape of Carile Street itself. um 2920 02:04:55.599 --> 02:04:57.575 and through our support um hopefully 2921 02:04:57.599 --> 02:04:59.095 through this process for the local 2922 02:04:59.119 --> 02:05:02.119 traders. Um this to me is the start of a 2923 02:05:02.320 --> 02:05:04.856 process because from here we're going to 2924 02:05:04.880 --> 02:05:07.016 see the designs. We're going to get into 2925 02:05:07.040 --> 02:05:09.896 the development phase um you know and 2926 02:05:09.920 --> 02:05:12.296 then we're going to hopefully at the end 2927 02:05:12.320 --> 02:05:15.320 of that have a wonderful um new 2928 02:05:15.520 --> 02:05:17.575 development here that will bring many 2929 02:05:17.599 --> 02:05:19.736 new residents to Caral Street. We'll see 2930 02:05:19.760 --> 02:05:21.575 a lot of reinvestment in Carl Street and 2931 02:05:21.599 --> 02:05:24.056 hopefully see the street revitalized. I 2932 02:05:24.080 --> 02:05:26.056 just need to say here that we will 2933 02:05:26.080 --> 02:05:28.135 continue to advocate for the residents, 2934 02:05:28.159 --> 02:05:30.376 the traders and landlords. And I want to 2935 02:05:30.400 --> 02:05:32.296 say thank you to all of the members of 2936 02:05:32.320 --> 02:05:35.320 the community who have shown up um 2937 02:05:36.000 --> 02:05:39.000 here to to talk to us and supported us 2938 02:05:39.119 --> 02:05:41.896 as a council through this. Um you know, 2939 02:05:41.920 --> 02:05:44.056 Better Bellaclava folks um you know, 2940 02:05:44.080 --> 02:05:47.080 Ariana, Adrian, Jerry, Helen, Lisa, and 2941 02:05:47.520 --> 02:05:50.520 Jonno. Um, I also need to thank the um 2942 02:05:50.800 --> 02:05:53.336 property team who've been incredibly 2943 02:05:53.360 --> 02:05:56.360 um patient with us. , Vicki, Anthony, 2944 02:05:58.000 --> 02:06:01.000 JaMears, Lachlan um who have taken all of 2945 02:06:01.040 --> 02:06:03.896 our um all of our feedback and taken 2946 02:06:03.920 --> 02:06:06.215 that back and again to Coohl's 2947 02:06:06.239 --> 02:06:09.016 in negotiating for this. lastly, you 2948 02:06:09.040 --> 02:06:10.615 know, the the other community members 2949 02:06:10.639 --> 02:06:12.695 who've come, Julian, Abby, Ruth, 2950 02:06:12.719 --> 02:06:15.016 countless other 2951 02:06:15.040 --> 02:06:16.296 I'm finished. I want to thank you all. I 2952 02:06:16.320 --> 02:06:18.056 will be supporting this. Um, and 2953 02:06:18.080 --> 02:06:19.496 hopefully we can get down to the work of 2954 02:06:19.520 --> 02:06:21.095 making this great. 2955 02:06:21.119 --> 02:06:23.575 Okay, thank you. Who else would like to 2956 02:06:23.599 --> 02:06:26.135 speak to it to the motion? Councelor 2957 02:06:26.159 --> 02:06:29.159 Jay, 2958 02:06:29.199 --> 02:06:32.199 just taking some notes. Um, I hold 2959 02:06:32.239 --> 02:06:34.536 Carile Street close to my heart. Having 2960 02:06:34.560 --> 02:06:36.776 lived in St. Kilder East for many 2961 02:06:36.800 --> 02:06:39.256 years before CO and during CO, I'm very 2962 02:06:39.280 --> 02:06:42.280 very very familiar with this landscape. 2963 02:06:42.400 --> 02:06:45.175 Um, 2964 02:06:45.199 --> 02:06:48.199 postco, post selling Mubra Street Car 2965 02:06:48.480 --> 02:06:50.695 Park, the precinct absolutely became a 2966 02:06:50.719 --> 02:06:53.256 shadow of its former self and certainly 2967 02:06:53.280 --> 02:06:55.175 a shadow of its former glory. Back in 2968 02:06:55.199 --> 02:06:57.736 the day, many residents changed their 2969 02:06:57.760 --> 02:06:59.256 behavior and found somewhere else to 2970 02:06:59.280 --> 02:07:00.856 shop, somewhere more convenient, 2971 02:07:00.880 --> 02:07:02.456 somewhere 2972 02:07:02.480 --> 02:07:04.936 safer in their opinion. 2973 02:07:04.960 --> 02:07:07.175 Kohl's, Wworths, the Chemist, and the 2974 02:07:07.199 --> 02:07:09.816 post office are our only anchors left on 2975 02:07:09.840 --> 02:07:11.736 the street. 2976 02:07:11.760 --> 02:07:13.976 With many store closures and many empty 2977 02:07:14.000 --> 02:07:17.000 stores, a void has been created. And 2978 02:07:17.119 --> 02:07:19.655 that void at the moment is creating fear 2979 02:07:19.679 --> 02:07:22.215 and antisocial behavior. 2980 02:07:22.239 --> 02:07:25.239 It is imperative that we work with our 2981 02:07:26.719 --> 02:07:29.575 um community to turn or to return 2982 02:07:29.599 --> 02:07:32.135 Bellaclava to its former glory. Some of 2983 02:07:32.159 --> 02:07:33.816 us have discussed it being like a 2984 02:07:33.840 --> 02:07:36.695 phoenix rising. Um, we need an anchor. 2985 02:07:36.719 --> 02:07:39.496 We need something to rebuild this 2986 02:07:39.520 --> 02:07:41.816 community. I strongly feel that this is 2987 02:07:41.840 --> 02:07:44.135 a good move for the community. It is 2988 02:07:44.159 --> 02:07:47.095 contentious. Yes. Um, but it certainly 2989 02:07:47.119 --> 02:07:50.119 feels right. It will take . Um, 2990 02:07:51.679 --> 02:07:54.679 but this is a great step forward in our 2991 02:07:55.920 --> 02:07:58.615 community. I do want to thank councelor 2992 02:07:58.639 --> 02:08:00.536 Libby Buckingham and councelor Justin 2993 02:08:00.560 --> 02:08:03.560 Hallidayiday. They have been um 2994 02:08:05.360 --> 02:08:07.095 I can't even find the word. They have 2995 02:08:07.119 --> 02:08:09.336 been so passionate, so dedicated and so 2996 02:08:09.360 --> 02:08:10.936 committed to listening to all of their 2997 02:08:10.960 --> 02:08:13.256 residents finding solutions for 2998 02:08:13.280 --> 02:08:14.695 everything and they have worked really 2999 02:08:14.719 --> 02:08:16.936 hard. I have never seen such community 3000 02:08:16.960 --> 02:08:19.575 consultation as we have seen in this 3001 02:08:19.599 --> 02:08:22.215 situation. We have done our best to 3002 02:08:22.239 --> 02:08:24.456 bring you in on the journey even though 3003 02:08:24.480 --> 02:08:25.816 we probably weren't all part of the 3004 02:08:25.840 --> 02:08:28.135 previous council and previous journey 3005 02:08:28.159 --> 02:08:30.215 and I strongly believe that working in 3006 02:08:30.239 --> 02:08:32.376 collaboration with wi-i with with the 3007 02:08:32.400 --> 02:08:34.536 current landlords Kohl's and everyone 3008 02:08:34.560 --> 02:08:36.615 else we can build something that we're 3009 02:08:36.639 --> 02:08:38.776 really proud of. I will share my 3010 02:08:38.800 --> 02:08:40.776 personal example. When I first moved to 3011 02:08:40.800 --> 02:08:43.655 South Melbourne 25 years ago, Kohl's was 3012 02:08:43.679 --> 02:08:45.575 standalone on a big car park on 3013 02:08:45.599 --> 02:08:47.896 Clarendon Street. Many of you may 3014 02:08:47.920 --> 02:08:50.920 remember it. Um, if it had been left to 3015 02:08:52.800 --> 02:08:54.695 that, we would not know Clarinon Street 3016 02:08:54.719 --> 02:08:56.776 as it is today. We have the great 3017 02:08:56.800 --> 02:08:58.536 Clarinon Center, great creative 3018 02:08:58.560 --> 02:09:01.496 industries upstairs, lovely retail, and 3019 02:09:01.520 --> 02:09:03.655 a really lovely space for our community 3020 02:09:03.679 --> 02:09:06.215 to to to build on. And that is my wish 3021 02:09:06.239 --> 02:09:08.376 for the residents in Balaclava that you 3022 02:09:08.400 --> 02:09:11.400 too can create a a better map um to 3023 02:09:12.560 --> 02:09:14.695 build a stronger and larger community. 3024 02:09:14.719 --> 02:09:17.719 So, I will support this. Thank you. 3025 02:09:18.480 --> 02:09:20.695 Thank you. Who else would like to speak 3026 02:09:20.719 --> 02:09:23.719 to the motion? 3027 02:09:24.159 --> 02:09:25.736 Anyone or do we 3028 02:09:25.760 --> 02:09:26.936 has his hand up? 3029 02:09:26.960 --> 02:09:28.695 Sorry, it's hard to see. Thank you, 3030 02:09:28.719 --> 02:09:30.776 councilman. 3031 02:09:30.800 --> 02:09:33.800 I will support this obviously. Um, you 3032 02:09:34.480 --> 02:09:35.816 know, we're selling a piece of land. 3033 02:09:35.840 --> 02:09:37.175 We're still a bit of the dark of what's 3034 02:09:37.199 --> 02:09:38.456 going to happen. We haven't seen any 3035 02:09:38.480 --> 02:09:41.480 designs or all those things. Um but I 3036 02:09:42.560 --> 02:09:45.175 think with all the work that has been 3037 02:09:45.199 --> 02:09:48.199 done in the last few months I think 3038 02:09:48.320 --> 02:09:50.856 we've sort of covered thus as much as we 3039 02:09:50.880 --> 02:09:53.880 can to u benefit Kala Street and the 3040 02:09:56.000 --> 02:09:59.000 people who work and live there. Um there 3041 02:09:59.760 --> 02:10:02.456 has been an enormous amount of work and 3042 02:10:02.480 --> 02:10:05.480 discussions between everyone. So um even 3043 02:10:06.320 --> 02:10:08.215 if some of the stuff that we are 3044 02:10:08.239 --> 02:10:09.736 deciding on tonight is not necessarily 3045 02:10:09.760 --> 02:10:12.760 binding, I believe in the goodwill of 3046 02:10:13.360 --> 02:10:16.360 calls to work with the community. Um you 3047 02:10:17.520 --> 02:10:20.520 know not every you know not every 3048 02:10:21.679 --> 02:10:23.896 company is a bad company. So we can only 3049 02:10:23.920 --> 02:10:26.296 trust them at the end of the day. They 3050 02:10:26.320 --> 02:10:28.536 want people to go and shop there. So, so 3051 02:10:28.560 --> 02:10:30.055 you want to make sure that the people 3052 02:10:30.079 --> 02:10:32.215 who live close by are happy with what 3053 02:10:32.239 --> 02:10:35.239 they do and have got a sort of a a 3054 02:10:36.480 --> 02:10:38.615 piece of the action and and a piece of 3055 02:10:38.639 --> 02:10:41.575 the of of what's going to happen. So, I 3056 02:10:41.599 --> 02:10:43.655 think with the work we've done, we've 3057 02:10:43.679 --> 02:10:46.135 we've done as much as we can, maybe even 3058 02:10:46.159 --> 02:10:48.456 more than what we anticipated to start 3059 02:10:48.480 --> 02:10:51.256 with. and you know Carl Street you 3060 02:10:51.280 --> 02:10:54.215 know we I was at council when we had the 3061 02:10:54.239 --> 02:10:56.776 when we decided on the structure plan 3062 02:10:56.800 --> 02:10:59.800 for Carl Street and the the fact that 3063 02:11:00.639 --> 02:11:02.695 Kors was going to develop and was going 3064 02:11:02.719 --> 02:11:04.296 to develop was part of that that was 15 3065 02:11:04.320 --> 02:11:05.496 years ago and nothing has happened 3066 02:11:05.520 --> 02:11:08.520 since. Um so today is um is a big day 3067 02:11:09.520 --> 02:11:12.520 and I hope that the next stage of 3068 02:11:13.599 --> 02:11:15.816 conversations and negotiations will 3069 02:11:15.840 --> 02:11:17.655 happen and if it doesn't happen 3070 02:11:17.679 --> 02:11:19.816 obviously the sale will not proceed. So 3071 02:11:19.840 --> 02:11:22.840 I think we've got covered um ourselves 3072 02:11:23.119 --> 02:11:26.119 for the betterment for better balaclava. 3073 02:11:29.040 --> 02:11:31.095 Thank you. Who else would like to speak 3074 02:11:31.119 --> 02:11:33.496 to the motion? Council consol. Thank 3075 02:11:33.520 --> 02:11:34.296 you. 3076 02:11:34.320 --> 02:11:36.296 Thank you. It has been a really 3077 02:11:36.320 --> 02:11:38.296 interesting process because this council 3078 02:11:38.320 --> 02:11:40.135 versus last council has had a very 3079 02:11:40.159 --> 02:11:41.736 different approach, but it's also that 3080 02:11:41.760 --> 02:11:44.215 it's come down to more detail as well. 3081 02:11:44.239 --> 02:11:45.896 So, the thank yous have already been 3082 02:11:45.920 --> 02:11:48.135 given epic effort here by my fellow 3083 02:11:48.159 --> 02:11:50.296 counselors um Libby Buckingham and 3084 02:11:50.320 --> 02:11:52.695 Justin Hallidayiday and the officers. I 3085 02:11:52.719 --> 02:11:54.615 was so impressed how often it was just 3086 02:11:54.639 --> 02:11:56.776 harder. Move the goalpost, make it like 3087 02:11:56.800 --> 02:11:58.456 keep going, keep going. And I thought 3088 02:11:58.480 --> 02:12:01.016 that that was just not going to be okay. 3089 02:12:01.040 --> 02:12:02.135 But where we've gone has really 3090 02:12:02.159 --> 02:12:05.159 impressed me. Um I I know there's 3091 02:12:05.679 --> 02:12:07.175 hesitations about a big corporation and 3092 02:12:07.199 --> 02:12:08.536 what they're going to deliver. We've 3093 02:12:08.560 --> 02:12:10.536 sort of workshopped that ground floor 3094 02:12:10.560 --> 02:12:12.615 where I feel like we're going to deliver 3095 02:12:12.639 --> 02:12:14.936 decent outcome. The the trust and the 3096 02:12:14.960 --> 02:12:16.936 fear about the design and that future 3097 02:12:16.960 --> 02:12:19.016 what's above it. That's where I'm a 3098 02:12:19.040 --> 02:12:21.736 little bit concerned because it takes 3099 02:12:21.760 --> 02:12:24.215 the the delivery partner on the the 3100 02:12:24.239 --> 02:12:25.816 group that's going to be delivering more 3101 02:12:25.840 --> 02:12:27.896 of the the bulk. Kohl's is delivering 3102 02:12:27.920 --> 02:12:30.920 grocery store and providing the land to 3103 02:12:31.119 --> 02:12:34.119 do the rest. So I really implore employ 3104 02:12:34.320 --> 02:12:37.320 yeah just want coals to think about 3105 02:12:37.840 --> 02:12:39.575 the right partner isn't always the one 3106 02:12:39.599 --> 02:12:40.695 that's going to deliver the highest 3107 02:12:40.719 --> 02:12:42.376 profit or anything like that. There's a 3108 02:12:42.400 --> 02:12:44.215 lot more that the community's expecting 3109 02:12:44.239 --> 02:12:46.936 of this development and it doesn't just 3110 02:12:46.960 --> 02:12:48.536 matter what is being done on the ground 3111 02:12:48.560 --> 02:12:50.456 floor and how that interacts with the 3112 02:12:50.480 --> 02:12:52.215 street which is vitally important and 3113 02:12:52.239 --> 02:12:54.776 I'm glad council will be delivering the 3114 02:12:54.800 --> 02:12:57.736 the rest of um projects over to 3115 02:12:57.760 --> 02:13:00.456 really enhance this area. But please 3116 02:13:00.480 --> 02:13:02.695 let's make this a good development. And 3117 02:13:02.719 --> 02:13:04.456 the fact that we have until settlement 3118 02:13:04.480 --> 02:13:06.936 to work out these documents is another 3119 02:13:06.960 --> 02:13:09.736 good aspect I find of this agreement and 3120 02:13:09.760 --> 02:13:12.215 we weren't there until very recently on 3121 02:13:12.239 --> 02:13:15.239 that point. Thank you. 3122 02:13:16.800 --> 02:13:19.655 Who else would like to speak? 3123 02:13:19.679 --> 02:13:20.936 I will. 3124 02:13:20.960 --> 02:13:22.055 Okay. Thank you. 3125 02:13:22.079 --> 02:13:24.055 Thank you. 3126 02:13:24.079 --> 02:13:26.536 Planning is unfortunately often very 3127 02:13:26.560 --> 02:13:28.776 adversarial and I think you know where 3128 02:13:28.800 --> 02:13:30.615 we have or where the community has 3129 02:13:30.639 --> 02:13:32.536 really helped here is not taking an 3130 02:13:32.560 --> 02:13:34.695 adversarial nature to planning but being 3131 02:13:34.719 --> 02:13:36.936 quite constructive in terms of here's 3132 02:13:36.960 --> 02:13:39.736 the issues here's potential options in 3133 02:13:39.760 --> 02:13:42.215 overcoming those challenges and we've 3134 02:13:42.239 --> 02:13:44.615 seen that in the development of the 3135 02:13:44.639 --> 02:13:46.856 instrumentalities that we now have 3136 02:13:46.880 --> 02:13:48.615 available you know we went from a 3137 02:13:48.639 --> 02:13:51.639 position where theou previously did not 3138 02:13:51.840 --> 02:13:54.776 exist where some of the clauses in 3139 02:13:54.800 --> 02:13:57.800 the section 173 did not exist either. 3140 02:13:58.159 --> 02:14:00.376 And you know when I reflect on previous 3141 02:14:00.400 --> 02:14:03.400 experiences and how we guided 3142 02:14:03.520 --> 02:14:05.816 large development in a previous council 3143 02:14:05.840 --> 02:14:07.655 I was on you know it was very much 3144 02:14:07.679 --> 02:14:09.575 community-led in collaboration with 3145 02:14:09.599 --> 02:14:11.736 council and I think that's where we've 3146 02:14:11.760 --> 02:14:14.760 gotten this point to today in getting it 3147 02:14:14.960 --> 02:14:17.960 to a point where we have worked with our 3148 02:14:18.480 --> 02:14:20.456 community worked with the stakeholders 3149 02:14:20.480 --> 02:14:22.456 to a point where there's a level of 3150 02:14:22.480 --> 02:14:25.480 comfort. Planning unfortunately always 3151 02:14:25.920 --> 02:14:28.920 has an element of uncertainty 3152 02:14:29.440 --> 02:14:31.575 and there's a number of uncertainties 3153 02:14:31.599 --> 02:14:34.296 compounded because we may not be the 3154 02:14:34.320 --> 02:14:36.135 decision-making authority. In fact, most 3155 02:14:36.159 --> 02:14:38.776 likely we will not be. It's a situation 3156 02:14:38.800 --> 02:14:40.695 I'm quite familiar with because that is 3157 02:14:40.719 --> 02:14:42.856 fisherman's band and and 3158 02:14:42.880 --> 02:14:45.816 and again. What we've done here in 3159 02:14:45.840 --> 02:14:48.840 these instruments is try and mitigate 3160 02:14:49.119 --> 02:14:52.119 around those uncertainties. 3161 02:14:52.159 --> 02:14:55.159 We have tried to provide clarity as 3162 02:14:55.440 --> 02:14:57.896 council as a referral in what ulThomannately 3163 02:14:57.920 --> 02:14:59.896 might become the referral authority in 3164 02:14:59.920 --> 02:15:01.575 guiding what this will look like. 3165 02:15:01.599 --> 02:15:03.256 Guiding what this will look like based 3166 02:15:03.280 --> 02:15:05.256 on the community, based on community 3167 02:15:05.280 --> 02:15:07.336 consultation, and based on a very 3168 02:15:07.360 --> 02:15:10.360 comprehensive engagement process. 3169 02:15:11.119 --> 02:15:14.055 We're never going to be 100% in where 3170 02:15:14.079 --> 02:15:16.296 that degree of certainty should be, but 3171 02:15:16.320 --> 02:15:18.456 I believe we have gone a lot further 3172 02:15:18.480 --> 02:15:20.856 than where we started. And as a result, 3173 02:15:20.880 --> 02:15:22.615 I'm comfortable with the resolution 3174 02:15:22.639 --> 02:15:25.639 before us and capturing my question that 3175 02:15:26.320 --> 02:15:29.320 I asked in councelor question in 3176 02:15:29.360 --> 02:15:32.360 what the ability is to back out if that 3177 02:15:32.400 --> 02:15:34.936 goodwill suddenly evaporates. 3178 02:15:34.960 --> 02:15:36.936 I'm comfortable with where we're at and 3179 02:15:36.960 --> 02:15:39.960 will be supporting the resolution. 3180 02:15:41.280 --> 02:15:44.280 Anyone else like to speak to the motion? 3181 02:15:44.960 --> 02:15:47.960 Council me, I'm just checking in. No. 3182 02:15:49.440 --> 02:15:51.336 Yes. Great. 3183 02:15:51.360 --> 02:15:52.776 Everyone has it. 3184 02:15:52.800 --> 02:15:55.800 Late breaking news. I support it. I 3185 02:15:56.320 --> 02:15:59.320 think it's a good recommendation. The 3186 02:15:59.760 --> 02:16:01.896 amount of work that has gone into this 3187 02:16:01.920 --> 02:16:04.376 is significant. I'd like to 3188 02:16:04.400 --> 02:16:06.055 acknowledge the work that the council 3189 02:16:06.079 --> 02:16:08.135 officers have done as well as the 3190 02:16:08.159 --> 02:16:10.456 councilors, particularly the two 3191 02:16:10.480 --> 02:16:13.480 councilors adjacent and in the ward. But 3192 02:16:13.520 --> 02:16:14.856 the council officers have worked 3193 02:16:14.880 --> 02:16:17.880 relentlessly to bring to fruition a very 3194 02:16:18.560 --> 02:16:21.560 torturous process and I am very 3195 02:16:22.079 --> 02:16:24.615 confident that the community will 3196 02:16:24.639 --> 02:16:27.639 benefit and the community's benefit has 3197 02:16:28.000 --> 02:16:30.055 always been top of mind of the 3198 02:16:30.079 --> 02:16:31.896 counselors and the council officers. 3199 02:16:31.920 --> 02:16:33.896 Thank you. 3200 02:16:33.920 --> 02:16:35.896 Thank you. 3201 02:16:35.920 --> 02:16:37.896 I might quickly speak before we return 3202 02:16:37.920 --> 02:16:40.920 to you councelor Buckingham. Um, 3203 02:16:42.399 --> 02:16:45.096 when I for the last nine years, all I've 3204 02:16:45.120 --> 02:16:47.335 heard is why why aren't you selling? Why 3205 02:16:47.359 --> 02:16:50.359 why is this not happening? , so I'm 3206 02:16:50.800 --> 02:16:52.695 hoping it sounds like we have the votes 3207 02:16:52.719 --> 02:16:54.615 to get it over the line. We're finally 3208 02:16:54.639 --> 02:16:57.256 doing it. And I know that not everyone 3209 02:16:57.280 --> 02:16:59.495 will be happy, but that's true of most 3210 02:16:59.519 --> 02:17:01.736 decisions that we make. Um, the reason 3211 02:17:01.760 --> 02:17:03.256 that I'm chairing tonight, which is not 3212 02:17:03.280 --> 02:17:05.016 ideal, is because I felt this was too 3213 02:17:05.040 --> 02:17:08.040 important a decision to not be part of. 3214 02:17:08.800 --> 02:17:10.936 Um but we haven't the thing that I 3215 02:17:10.960 --> 02:17:12.375 wanted to note there's two things that 3216 02:17:12.399 --> 02:17:14.216 concern me not concern me one we haven't 3217 02:17:14.240 --> 02:17:16.455 heard from everyone in any consultation 3218 02:17:16.479 --> 02:17:18.216 we hear from obviously the most 3219 02:17:18.240 --> 02:17:20.056 concerned and and impacted group but 3220 02:17:20.080 --> 02:17:22.295 there's also lots of people in Elwood 3221 02:17:22.319 --> 02:17:24.776 and surrounds that shop at Coohl's 3222 02:17:24.800 --> 02:17:27.800 that are not as as adjacent to it um 3223 02:17:28.160 --> 02:17:29.976 and I know that they very strongly feel 3224 02:17:30.000 --> 02:17:31.816 that it is to get on with it. The 3225 02:17:31.840 --> 02:17:34.056 previous council in when was it 2009 3226 02:17:34.080 --> 02:17:35.976 knew that the street needed upgrade and 3227 02:17:36.000 --> 02:17:38.295 uplift so it's we get on with it. 3228 02:17:38.319 --> 02:17:40.776 So, I'm really um pleased to hear that 3229 02:17:40.800 --> 02:17:43.800 counselors are looking to support it. My 3230 02:17:44.080 --> 02:17:45.896 one concern 3231 02:17:45.920 --> 02:17:48.920 um and I hope I'm wrong is I know that 3232 02:17:49.920 --> 02:17:52.216 there is always so much hope about how 3233 02:17:52.240 --> 02:17:54.695 much community benefit that we can jam 3234 02:17:54.719 --> 02:17:57.719 into any project aka the marina. And 3235 02:17:58.559 --> 02:18:00.455 soMears it's not possible to get 3236 02:18:00.479 --> 02:18:01.816 everything and I still think that's 3237 02:18:01.840 --> 02:18:04.840 okay. So, , as much as I want, , 3238 02:18:05.519 --> 02:18:08.375 obviously the best outcoMears that we can, 3239 02:18:08.399 --> 02:18:10.695 I think there is also a reality check of 3240 02:18:10.719 --> 02:18:12.856 perhaps we won't get everything, but we 3241 02:18:12.880 --> 02:18:15.495 will get a revitalized street. We will 3242 02:18:15.519 --> 02:18:18.216 get, you know, much better supermarkets 3243 02:18:18.240 --> 02:18:20.455 and functionality and and opportunity 3244 02:18:20.479 --> 02:18:23.335 for new shops as well as housing and 3245 02:18:23.359 --> 02:18:24.856 apartments and more people to spend 3246 02:18:24.880 --> 02:18:26.695 money in the businesses on Carile 3247 02:18:26.719 --> 02:18:29.016 Street. Um, 3248 02:18:29.040 --> 02:18:30.936 so I'm happy to support this. I guess 3249 02:18:30.960 --> 02:18:33.736 I'm also I know that councelor Consol 3250 02:18:33.760 --> 02:18:36.760 referred to who builds above. I I'm not 3251 02:18:36.960 --> 02:18:38.695 necessarily that I want build to rent 3252 02:18:38.719 --> 02:18:40.535 but I do know that Richmond Traders is a 3253 02:18:40.559 --> 02:18:42.535 very successful version of Kohl's and 3254 02:18:42.559 --> 02:18:44.375 the community space. It's not 3255 02:18:44.399 --> 02:18:45.976 necessarily green space but it's 3256 02:18:46.000 --> 02:18:48.295 community space that gets utilized has 3257 02:18:48.319 --> 02:18:50.455 been a really great outcome. So 3258 02:18:50.479 --> 02:18:52.056 councilors I'm going to keep keep it 3259 02:18:52.080 --> 02:18:54.295 short there. Um I hope that you all 3260 02:18:54.319 --> 02:18:55.896 stick to your word and we vote this 3261 02:18:55.920 --> 02:18:58.455 through. Um, and so, Councelor 3262 02:18:58.479 --> 02:19:00.295 Buckingham, I have been under our new 3263 02:19:00.319 --> 02:19:03.319 rules told that you can have up to 2 3264 02:19:03.840 --> 02:19:06.056 minutes should you need it. , an extra 3265 02:19:06.080 --> 02:19:08.615 2 minutes on top of your final ones cuz 3266 02:19:08.639 --> 02:19:11.639 if you request that, , sorry, I didn't 3267 02:19:12.000 --> 02:19:14.056 know that under the new rules. So, would 3268 02:19:14.080 --> 02:19:15.655 you like a little bit of extra to 3269 02:19:15.679 --> 02:19:18.679 that 2 minutes? Yeah. 3270 02:19:20.880 --> 02:19:23.880 If you would like to close. 3271 02:19:26.719 --> 02:19:29.719 Thank you, councilors. And 3272 02:19:29.920 --> 02:19:32.295 I was going to run through some of the 3273 02:19:32.319 --> 02:19:34.056 additional 3274 02:19:34.080 --> 02:19:35.976 benefits for community that have been 3275 02:19:36.000 --> 02:19:39.000 secured throughout the negotiations. 3276 02:19:39.040 --> 02:19:42.040 Um, I'll particularly reference theou 3277 02:19:42.800 --> 02:19:45.176 that outlines 3278 02:19:45.200 --> 02:19:48.200 that the the power of theou 3279 02:19:48.399 --> 02:19:51.399 is that this process won't end tonight. 3280 02:19:51.920 --> 02:19:54.920 Thatou outlines a a process where the 3281 02:19:56.160 --> 02:19:58.216 community will stay engaged, where we'll 3282 02:19:58.240 --> 02:20:00.776 keep working together as a council, as a 3283 02:20:00.800 --> 02:20:03.800 community, and with Coohl's to 3284 02:20:05.359 --> 02:20:08.359 embed some of the design outcoMears that 3285 02:20:08.560 --> 02:20:11.335 our community really wants and needs. It 3286 02:20:11.359 --> 02:20:14.359 is not without risk. There is um a lot 3287 02:20:15.920 --> 02:20:18.616 of unknowns in this project and as other 3288 02:20:18.640 --> 02:20:21.640 counselors have have said um 3289 02:20:23.280 --> 02:20:25.016 that's not that's not a perfect 3290 02:20:25.040 --> 02:20:27.016 situation to be in and throughout the 3291 02:20:27.040 --> 02:20:28.776 negotiation 3292 02:20:28.800 --> 02:20:31.800 I you know we have pushed and requested 3293 02:20:32.399 --> 02:20:35.399 things and while we did get a few items 3294 02:20:35.920 --> 02:20:38.920 we didn't get all of our wish list um 3295 02:20:39.040 --> 02:20:41.816 but we did secure additional outcoMears 3296 02:20:41.840 --> 02:20:44.056 for this community. 3297 02:20:44.080 --> 02:20:47.080 In closing, 3298 02:20:47.760 --> 02:20:50.616 this development and this site is not 3299 02:20:50.640 --> 02:20:53.640 happening in a vacuum. There is so much 3300 02:20:53.760 --> 02:20:56.760 additional work that we are doing around 3301 02:20:57.840 --> 02:21:00.616 the site and around Balaclava and 3302 02:21:00.640 --> 02:21:03.640 Carile Street. The Carile Streetscape 3303 02:21:03.760 --> 02:21:06.536 plan is crucial and there's such an 3304 02:21:06.560 --> 02:21:09.415 opportunity to revitalize the street 3305 02:21:09.439 --> 02:21:12.439 through that plan. the urban forest to 3306 02:21:12.960 --> 02:21:15.960 truly green balaclava, 3307 02:21:16.319 --> 02:21:19.096 the creation of more public space. All 3308 02:21:19.120 --> 02:21:20.696 of these things come together. The St. 3309 02:21:20.720 --> 02:21:23.016 Kilda Library redevelopment can come 3310 02:21:23.040 --> 02:21:26.040 together to give us a stunning result, a 3311 02:21:26.720 --> 02:21:29.415 truly um 3312 02:21:29.439 --> 02:21:32.295 stunning urban 3313 02:21:32.319 --> 02:21:35.319 revitalization project for Balaclava 3314 02:21:35.680 --> 02:21:38.455 and it's potentially transformational. 3315 02:21:38.479 --> 02:21:41.479 But we do need to keep on a process of 3316 02:21:42.080 --> 02:21:44.696 collaboration, consultation and 3317 02:21:44.720 --> 02:21:47.096 meaningful engagement with the community 3318 02:21:47.120 --> 02:21:50.120 and with the traders and coals and all 3319 02:21:50.560 --> 02:21:53.560 the other players in our precinct. 3320 02:21:54.240 --> 02:21:57.016 So given careful consideration of the 3321 02:21:57.040 --> 02:22:00.040 risks and benefits and acknowledging 3322 02:22:00.560 --> 02:22:02.455 that challenges remain, I believe the 3323 02:22:02.479 --> 02:22:05.096 benefits and the potential investment 3324 02:22:05.120 --> 02:22:07.576 into Balaclava, the creation of new 3325 02:22:07.600 --> 02:22:10.216 housing and additional funding for 3326 02:22:10.240 --> 02:22:12.056 important community projects, it's just 3327 02:22:12.080 --> 02:22:14.375 too great to ignore. And I'm also lied 3328 02:22:14.399 --> 02:22:17.096 to the risk of the status quo and 3329 02:22:17.120 --> 02:22:19.176 further delays. A lot of people have 3330 02:22:19.200 --> 02:22:20.616 said to me, we need a little bit more 3331 02:22:20.640 --> 02:22:23.640 just to get it 100% right. But the 3332 02:22:24.800 --> 02:22:27.800 delays and um is actually costing 3333 02:22:28.160 --> 02:22:31.096 the street dearly. So it's to make 3334 02:22:31.120 --> 02:22:33.736 a decision as hard as this decision is. 3335 02:22:33.760 --> 02:22:35.816 And so tonight I'm supporting the sale. 3336 02:22:35.840 --> 02:22:38.536 I'm proud to move the motion because I 3337 02:22:38.560 --> 02:22:40.136 believe it will deliver a stronger and 3338 02:22:40.160 --> 02:22:42.056 more vibrant community for many many 3339 02:22:42.080 --> 02:22:45.080 years to come. 3340 02:22:45.760 --> 02:22:47.415 I just want to close with a big thank 3341 02:22:47.439 --> 02:22:49.415 you to my councelor colleagues. We have 3342 02:22:49.439 --> 02:22:52.439 spent a huge amount of and effort 3343 02:22:52.960 --> 02:22:55.736 going through this process and I believe 3344 02:22:55.760 --> 02:22:57.656 that we have achieved a better outcome 3345 02:22:57.680 --> 02:23:00.680 for the people of Port Phillip. 3346 02:23:01.840 --> 02:23:03.576 Thank you. So we're going to put that to 3347 02:23:03.600 --> 02:23:06.600 the vote everyone. All those in favor 3348 02:23:08.720 --> 02:23:10.776 I think that's unanimous unless I'm 3349 02:23:10.800 --> 02:23:13.016 wrong. So that is part that and all 3350 02:23:13.040 --> 02:23:15.016 those against and that is carried 3351 02:23:15.040 --> 02:23:17.576 unanimously. 3352 02:23:17.600 --> 02:23:19.256 Okay. Okay. So, councilors, this is the 3353 02:23:19.280 --> 02:23:21.016 moment where I'm going to sign off. So, 3354 02:23:21.040 --> 02:23:22.696 we might take a two-minute break so that 3355 02:23:22.720 --> 02:23:24.616 the deputy mayor will take the chair. 3356 02:23:24.640 --> 02:23:26.056 Um, thank you for your patience, 3357 02:23:26.080 --> 02:23:28.455 everyone, for allowing me to chair this. 3358 02:23:28.479 --> 02:23:31.479 So, I will vacate the chair. , and 3359 02:23:32.000 --> 02:23:35.000 good luck, Brian. 3360 02:23:37.439 --> 02:23:40.136 Okay. , thank you everyone. I'll 3361 02:23:40.160 --> 02:23:43.160 recommence the meeting. 3362 02:23:44.640 --> 02:23:46.776 We've just been through a a big 3363 02:23:46.800 --> 02:23:49.800 momentous occasion and following up with 3364 02:23:50.319 --> 02:23:53.016 that I've been installed in the chair 3365 02:23:53.040 --> 02:23:54.696 so 3366 02:23:54.720 --> 02:23:57.720 and I have with me as support Lachlan 3367 02:23:57.840 --> 02:24:00.840 Johnson so and JaMears so the strength is 3368 02:24:01.600 --> 02:24:04.600 here and we'll move on 3369 02:24:04.720 --> 02:24:06.936 now the next item of business noting the 3370 02:24:06.960 --> 02:24:09.960 community interest in item 8.1 which is 3371 02:24:10.880 --> 02:24:13.880 116A Merchesen Street and Kilda 3372 02:24:14.479 --> 02:24:17.096 Um, in line with provision 21 of the 3373 02:24:17.120 --> 02:24:19.016 governance rules, I'm proposing to 3374 02:24:19.040 --> 02:24:21.496 change the order of reports to consider 3375 02:24:21.520 --> 02:24:24.520 this item first or next next item. 3376 02:24:27.359 --> 02:24:29.816 So, in which case, are there any 3377 02:24:29.840 --> 02:24:31.976 questions of the officers in relation to 3378 02:24:32.000 --> 02:24:33.816 this report? 3379 02:24:33.840 --> 02:24:34.856 Yes, 3380 02:24:34.880 --> 02:24:37.096 I need to first. 3381 02:24:37.120 --> 02:24:39.415 Yes, of course. Thank you. Conflict of 3382 02:24:39.439 --> 02:24:42.216 interest. 3383 02:24:42.240 --> 02:24:44.295 a very brief. 3384 02:24:44.319 --> 02:24:47.319 thank you chair acting mayor. 3385 02:24:49.600 --> 02:24:52.600 as I've foreshadowed earlier um I am a 3386 02:24:52.800 --> 02:24:55.800 resident of Merchesen Street and while I 3387 02:24:56.880 --> 02:24:58.936 I've considered this deeply over the 3388 02:24:58.960 --> 02:25:00.696 last few months as this has been on our 3389 02:25:00.720 --> 02:25:03.720 agenda. Um while I do not um think that 3390 02:25:05.920 --> 02:25:08.216 due to my circumstances I do not 3391 02:25:08.240 --> 02:25:11.240 think this affects my situation on 3392 02:25:11.680 --> 02:25:14.056 Merchesen Street i.e. have a material 3393 02:25:14.080 --> 02:25:16.776 impact on it. Um I believe that I should 3394 02:25:16.800 --> 02:25:19.576 recuse myself because of the perception 3395 02:25:19.600 --> 02:25:22.600 that my um vote may be influenced by 3396 02:25:22.800 --> 02:25:25.656 self-interest. So I will recuse myself 3397 02:25:25.680 --> 02:25:28.056 from this discussion and from 3398 02:25:28.080 --> 02:25:31.080 decision-m on this matter. 3399 02:25:32.160 --> 02:25:35.160 Thank you. 3400 02:25:40.080 --> 02:25:42.776 Okay. Councilors have got any 3401 02:25:42.800 --> 02:25:45.800 questions in relation. 3402 02:25:46.160 --> 02:25:49.160 So with councelor Min 3403 02:25:49.359 --> 02:25:51.976 there was a question it was in the 3404 02:25:52.000 --> 02:25:53.896 public submissions as well on this 3405 02:25:53.920 --> 02:25:55.256 planning application around the water 3406 02:25:55.280 --> 02:25:57.256 runoff. What is the consideration around 3407 02:25:57.280 --> 02:25:58.856 the planning application around water 3408 02:25:58.880 --> 02:26:00.536 runoff and the consequences on that 3409 02:26:00.560 --> 02:26:03.560 property and nearby properties? 3410 02:26:05.280 --> 02:26:06.776 Thank you for the question through you 3411 02:26:06.800 --> 02:26:08.375 deputy mayor. Thank you for the question 3412 02:26:08.399 --> 02:26:11.399 councelor Min. Um in relation to um 3413 02:26:12.000 --> 02:26:14.856 overland flows of water and drainage the 3414 02:26:14.880 --> 02:26:17.496 site's not covered by sight specific 3415 02:26:17.520 --> 02:26:19.976 flood overlay or any of those controls 3416 02:26:20.000 --> 02:26:21.816 that require our consideration of those 3417 02:26:21.840 --> 02:26:24.840 matters. So, while there's standard um 3418 02:26:25.200 --> 02:26:26.776 notes that might be on a permit about 3419 02:26:26.800 --> 02:26:29.496 legal points of discharge, um there's no 3420 02:26:29.520 --> 02:26:31.896 planning controls that relate to that 3421 02:26:31.920 --> 02:26:33.335 and it's out of scope of the 3422 02:26:33.359 --> 02:26:35.976 application. 3423 02:26:36.000 --> 02:26:38.696 Thank you, Councelor Consol. 3424 02:26:38.720 --> 02:26:40.856 Thank you. On the um site survey, I see 3425 02:26:40.880 --> 02:26:43.880 an easement along the um western 3426 02:26:44.080 --> 02:26:46.536 boundary. Is this something that council 3427 02:26:46.560 --> 02:26:49.560 will consider when looking at plans? 3428 02:26:53.040 --> 02:26:55.335 Sorry. Thank you for the question 3429 02:26:55.359 --> 02:26:58.359 through your deputy mayor. 3430 02:27:00.160 --> 02:27:01.816 Sorry. Bear with me just one moment. 3431 02:27:01.840 --> 02:27:04.840 I'll just open the plan. 3432 02:27:13.439 --> 02:27:16.216 So I believe the um there's no works 3433 02:27:16.240 --> 02:27:19.240 that are relative to the um easement. So 3434 02:27:19.439 --> 02:27:21.576 the easement's not a consideration of 3435 02:27:21.600 --> 02:27:23.976 the planning application. 3436 02:27:24.000 --> 02:27:26.295 Um I believe 3437 02:27:26.319 --> 02:27:28.216 sorry maybe I'll clarify. So if I'm 3438 02:27:28.240 --> 02:27:30.056 reading the plan correctly on the 3439 02:27:30.080 --> 02:27:33.080 western boundary within the subject site 3440 02:27:33.120 --> 02:27:36.120 there's a 1.83 m wide drainage and 3441 02:27:36.399 --> 02:27:39.399 sewage easement. Now I understand that 3442 02:27:39.920 --> 02:27:42.216 that is usually where you would for a 3443 02:27:42.240 --> 02:27:43.736 building permit you'll get the build 3444 02:27:43.760 --> 02:27:46.760 over easement um approval from the 3445 02:27:47.760 --> 02:27:50.056 relevant authority. So I understand it 3446 02:27:50.080 --> 02:27:52.136 might not come in at this point but to 3447 02:27:52.160 --> 02:27:54.616 me I wouldn't have thought that you 3448 02:27:54.640 --> 02:27:57.176 could necessarily build over plan to 3449 02:27:57.200 --> 02:27:58.616 build over it with 3450 02:27:58.640 --> 02:28:01.640 Yeah. You sorry threw you deputy may um 3451 02:28:02.479 --> 02:28:04.696 there are building approvals required 3452 02:28:04.720 --> 02:28:06.536 to build over easements. So there can be 3453 02:28:06.560 --> 02:28:08.936 additional permissions required to get 3454 02:28:08.960 --> 02:28:11.096 approval to build over an ement easement 3455 02:28:11.120 --> 02:28:13.496 where one exists. um it's not something 3456 02:28:13.520 --> 02:28:16.520 that requires us to um we can make a 3457 02:28:17.280 --> 02:28:19.496 decision in in um absence of that 3458 02:28:19.520 --> 02:28:22.375 approval. Um and that can that approval 3459 02:28:22.399 --> 02:28:23.415 needs to be sought through other 3460 02:28:23.439 --> 02:28:24.536 mechanisms. 3461 02:28:24.560 --> 02:28:27.560 Okay. next question is um usually on 3462 02:28:28.880 --> 02:28:30.936 a boundary a wall height is an average 3463 02:28:30.960 --> 02:28:33.960 of 3.2 and a maximum 3.6 and I'm seeing 3464 02:28:35.200 --> 02:28:37.335 in my understanding of the elevation 3465 02:28:37.359 --> 02:28:40.359 that it's about 3.85 85 on that western 3466 02:28:40.800 --> 02:28:43.800 boundary for the above the ground floor 3467 02:28:44.240 --> 02:28:47.176 on suite and like a pantry walk-in 3468 02:28:47.200 --> 02:28:48.936 pantry for the kitchen is around this 3469 02:28:48.960 --> 02:28:51.576 height. And then there's a dotted line 3470 02:28:51.600 --> 02:28:54.295 that shows the natural ground ground 3471 02:28:54.319 --> 02:28:55.896 level. 3472 02:28:55.920 --> 02:28:57.415 But when you look at the neighboring 3473 02:28:57.439 --> 02:28:59.896 site at 16A, 3474 02:28:59.920 --> 02:29:02.920 sorry, we're at 16 that you it is 3475 02:29:03.120 --> 02:29:04.536 significantly lower. And it's not that 3476 02:29:04.560 --> 02:29:06.375 they've nearly done that. It's always 3477 02:29:06.399 --> 02:29:09.399 been lower. and um the retaining wall 3478 02:29:11.439 --> 02:29:14.439 makes it so much higher. So what's the 3479 02:29:14.640 --> 02:29:17.256 rule about natural ground level when you 3480 02:29:17.280 --> 02:29:20.216 have this terrace? 3481 02:29:20.240 --> 02:29:21.736 Yes, thank you for the question through 3482 02:29:21.760 --> 02:29:24.760 you mayor. Um so natural ground the the 3483 02:29:24.800 --> 02:29:26.776 height of a wall is always measured from 3484 02:29:26.800 --> 02:29:28.776 the natural ground level on the 3485 02:29:28.800 --> 02:29:30.536 subject's site. So it's measured from 3486 02:29:30.560 --> 02:29:33.415 the underneath of the eaves um at the 3487 02:29:33.439 --> 02:29:35.656 highest point of that wall to the 3488 02:29:35.680 --> 02:29:37.256 natural ground level that's directly 3489 02:29:37.280 --> 02:29:40.280 below that point. Um so the I recognize 3490 02:29:41.359 --> 02:29:43.415 that there's a point on the plan where 3491 02:29:43.439 --> 02:29:46.439 it says 3.8. Um when I measured the wall 3492 02:29:46.800 --> 02:29:49.800 using our map, our measuring um software 3493 02:29:50.399 --> 02:29:52.295 and measured the highest point to the 3494 02:29:52.319 --> 02:29:55.319 corresponding um ground level below um 3495 02:29:55.439 --> 02:29:58.439 it was found to comply um with the walls 3496 02:29:59.200 --> 02:30:02.200 on boundary um standards. Um and and 3497 02:30:04.399 --> 02:30:07.399 while there are is a lower um level on 3498 02:30:07.600 --> 02:30:10.216 the adjoining site where there has been 3499 02:30:10.240 --> 02:30:11.976 excavation and and that may have been 3500 02:30:12.000 --> 02:30:14.216 some ago, we're still only required 3501 02:30:14.240 --> 02:30:16.455 to measure the height of that wall from 3502 02:30:16.479 --> 02:30:18.776 the subject site um at that 3503 02:30:18.800 --> 02:30:21.800 corresponding point. 3504 02:30:22.080 --> 02:30:23.415 Can I go again? 3505 02:30:23.439 --> 02:30:25.176 Yeah, 3506 02:30:25.200 --> 02:30:27.736 sorry. It is really hard to read the 3507 02:30:27.760 --> 02:30:30.136 site plan and get those natural ground 3508 02:30:30.160 --> 02:30:33.160 levels but um yeah so that'll be 3509 02:30:33.600 --> 02:30:34.856 interesting. Sorry let me move on 3510 02:30:34.880 --> 02:30:36.776 another question. what are the 3511 02:30:36.800 --> 02:30:38.536 requirements for overlooking from roof 3512 02:30:38.560 --> 02:30:41.560 windows? 3513 02:30:41.600 --> 02:30:44.600 Um so sorry through you deputy mayor. Um 3514 02:30:45.359 --> 02:30:46.776 the requirements for overlooking through 3515 02:30:46.800 --> 02:30:49.256 any windows are the same. Where there 3516 02:30:49.280 --> 02:30:51.016 is a potential for views into a 3517 02:30:51.040 --> 02:30:52.696 habitable room window or secluded 3518 02:30:52.720 --> 02:30:55.720 private open space within 9 m. Um you 3519 02:30:56.319 --> 02:30:59.096 know controls need to be utilized to 3520 02:30:59.120 --> 02:31:01.576 stop those views to limit those views. 3521 02:31:01.600 --> 02:31:04.600 Um the the window the windows that may 3522 02:31:04.880 --> 02:31:07.576 appear as their windows in the roof are 3523 02:31:07.600 --> 02:31:09.656 simply skylights. So there's not the 3524 02:31:09.680 --> 02:31:12.680 same controls that apply to skylights as 3525 02:31:13.280 --> 02:31:16.280 windows. And the windows, while they 3526 02:31:16.319 --> 02:31:19.319 appear to be um within the attic space, 3527 02:31:19.920 --> 02:31:22.295 are skylights that provide light 3528 02:31:22.319 --> 02:31:24.936 to the lower levels within the building, 3529 02:31:24.960 --> 02:31:27.496 the the first floor. 3530 02:31:27.520 --> 02:31:29.096 And last question, how do we know those 3531 02:31:29.120 --> 02:31:31.576 are skylights? 3532 02:31:31.600 --> 02:31:34.600 Um it's it's just how the the the 3533 02:31:36.640 --> 02:31:38.856 skylights have been represented in 3534 02:31:38.880 --> 02:31:41.496 the plans and in the planning um report 3535 02:31:41.520 --> 02:31:44.520 and and the discussion with the um 3536 02:31:44.560 --> 02:31:47.560 applicant. Um there is a section of 3537 02:31:49.439 --> 02:31:52.439 the or a or a slice section of the attic 3538 02:31:53.520 --> 02:31:56.520 space roof space um that shows the in 3539 02:31:57.520 --> 02:32:00.520 inside edge of the the of that internal 3540 02:32:01.920 --> 02:32:04.616 space that shows that those skylights 3541 02:32:04.640 --> 02:32:07.496 are are set on the outside of the edge 3542 02:32:07.520 --> 02:32:10.520 of that um space. 3543 02:32:10.720 --> 02:32:13.415 I I accept that it's quite difficult 3544 02:32:13.439 --> 02:32:15.335 to read them on these plans and the the 3545 02:32:15.359 --> 02:32:17.736 scale of the plan is is not great but um 3546 02:32:17.760 --> 02:32:20.616 a particular attention was um given to 3547 02:32:20.640 --> 02:32:23.335 that matter with the applicant to ensure 3548 02:32:23.359 --> 02:32:25.736 that that was the case. 3549 02:32:25.760 --> 02:32:26.616 Thank you 3550 02:32:26.640 --> 02:32:29.640 councelor Buckingham. 3551 02:32:29.760 --> 02:32:31.335 I'd like to take up some of the 3552 02:32:31.359 --> 02:32:33.736 questions that were asked earlier this 3553 02:32:33.760 --> 02:32:35.976 evening in particular some of the 3554 02:32:36.000 --> 02:32:38.536 speakers referenced inaccuracies in the 3555 02:32:38.560 --> 02:32:40.696 plans. Have those inaccuracies been 3556 02:32:40.720 --> 02:32:43.720 checked and clarified and fixed? 3557 02:32:45.840 --> 02:32:48.375 Thank you through deputy mayor. Um thank 3558 02:32:48.399 --> 02:32:50.696 you for the question. Um so it's often 3559 02:32:50.720 --> 02:32:53.096 the case that um when we get development 3560 02:32:53.120 --> 02:32:55.896 applications that there's matters on 3561 02:32:55.920 --> 02:32:58.375 the plans that might not always be 3562 02:32:58.399 --> 02:33:01.399 agreed to by all parties. It's um the 3563 02:33:01.600 --> 02:33:03.736 job of the planner to ensure that the 3564 02:33:03.760 --> 02:33:05.656 information that we have is accurate 3565 02:33:05.680 --> 02:33:08.680 enough for us to be able to make a 3566 02:33:08.960 --> 02:33:11.256 thorough assessment of the application. 3567 02:33:11.280 --> 02:33:14.280 We were satisfied that the plans um did 3568 02:33:15.520 --> 02:33:18.520 enable that. Um it when the plans have 3569 02:33:18.960 --> 02:33:20.856 been amended at various stages through 3570 02:33:20.880 --> 02:33:22.696 the application, they may not have 3571 02:33:22.720 --> 02:33:25.415 necessarily addressed or corrected all 3572 02:33:25.439 --> 02:33:28.056 of those matters on the plans, but there 3573 02:33:28.080 --> 02:33:30.216 was certainly enough information and 3574 02:33:30.240 --> 02:33:31.656 a good enough understanding of the 3575 02:33:31.680 --> 02:33:34.536 proposal um for me to be able to make an 3576 02:33:34.560 --> 02:33:37.560 assessment of the development. Yeah. 3577 02:33:38.960 --> 02:33:41.960 Yes. Councelor Buckingham. 3578 02:33:42.960 --> 02:33:45.335 in concern to the heritage nature of the 3579 02:33:45.359 --> 02:33:46.856 street 3580 02:33:46.880 --> 02:33:49.880 and the bulk and the form of the 3581 02:33:51.600 --> 02:33:53.256 proposed 3582 02:33:53.280 --> 02:33:55.656 um of this application 3583 02:33:55.680 --> 02:33:57.896 particularly in relation to the stair 3584 02:33:57.920 --> 02:34:00.920 the staircase that's facing the street 3585 02:34:01.200 --> 02:34:04.200 does this adversely affect 3586 02:34:04.240 --> 02:34:06.856 the heritage of the place 3587 02:34:06.880 --> 02:34:09.335 okay thank you through you ma deputy 3588 02:34:09.359 --> 02:34:12.295 may um so it's the opinion of the of my 3589 02:34:12.319 --> 02:34:15.319 assessment ment that it it does not um 3590 02:34:15.600 --> 02:34:17.816 that while it is visible in the street 3591 02:34:17.840 --> 02:34:20.840 context that it represents a a small 3592 02:34:21.920 --> 02:34:24.920 section of the proposal that is um dealt 3593 02:34:25.040 --> 02:34:27.176 with in an appropriate manner to still 3594 02:34:27.200 --> 02:34:29.576 be sympathetic and not um take away 3595 02:34:29.600 --> 02:34:32.216 from that heritage significance. Um 3596 02:34:32.240 --> 02:34:33.896 importantly, it doesn't remove any of 3597 02:34:33.920 --> 02:34:36.455 the original heritage fabric from that 3598 02:34:36.479 --> 02:34:39.415 location of the building. Um it's also 3599 02:34:39.439 --> 02:34:42.439 set under underneath the eve line of the 3600 02:34:43.040 --> 02:34:46.040 existing building. Um and it's of a 3601 02:34:48.080 --> 02:34:50.776 material and finish that um as it's an 3602 02:34:50.800 --> 02:34:53.576 unstained spotted gum, the Thomannber will 3603 02:34:53.600 --> 02:34:56.056 gray off over and and create a soft 3604 02:34:56.080 --> 02:34:59.080 and um sort of sympathetic material that 3605 02:34:59.120 --> 02:35:02.056 should sit well with the red brick 3606 02:35:02.080 --> 02:35:05.080 finish of the existing building. 3607 02:35:07.359 --> 02:35:10.359 Thank you, Councelor Tomman. 3608 02:35:11.760 --> 02:35:14.455 There was recently a VCAT decision 3609 02:35:14.479 --> 02:35:17.256 for a development in Elwood that 3610 02:35:17.280 --> 02:35:20.280 referenced heritage. Um 3611 02:35:21.760 --> 02:35:24.056 we change. 3612 02:35:24.080 --> 02:35:27.080 It's a big question. The boss has to 3613 02:35:27.359 --> 02:35:30.216 the boss the boss had to answer. does 3614 02:35:30.240 --> 02:35:33.240 this um you know this application has it 3615 02:35:33.680 --> 02:35:36.680 got any is it similar or 3616 02:35:37.600 --> 02:35:40.216 can we you know I don't know can we look 3617 02:35:40.240 --> 02:35:42.856 at it with the same eyes or different 3618 02:35:42.880 --> 02:35:45.415 eyes thank you for the question 3619 02:35:45.439 --> 02:35:47.976 councelor man and through deputy mayor 3620 02:35:48.000 --> 02:35:49.576 every application has to be treated on 3621 02:35:49.600 --> 02:35:52.216 its own planning merits the 3622 02:35:52.240 --> 02:35:55.240 application inwood um which was recently 3623 02:35:55.760 --> 02:35:58.455 within the media was a very 3624 02:35:58.479 --> 02:36:01.479 different context. Um it was first 3625 02:36:02.000 --> 02:36:04.696 floor edition where this is a front 3626 02:36:04.720 --> 02:36:07.720 extension um and presented in 3627 02:36:10.319 --> 02:36:12.056 3628 02:36:12.080 --> 02:36:15.080 in the view of VCAT in a way that wasn't 3629 02:36:15.680 --> 02:36:18.536 suitable to sufficiently conceal the 3630 02:36:18.560 --> 02:36:20.936 upper level. Um whereas this is a 3631 02:36:20.960 --> 02:36:23.096 different context being that 3632 02:36:23.120 --> 02:36:25.176 extension at the front of the dwelling 3633 02:36:25.200 --> 02:36:27.656 or the building and with some 3634 02:36:27.680 --> 02:36:30.680 alterations to the roof notably the 3635 02:36:30.720 --> 02:36:32.696 rear extensions here being the roof 3636 02:36:32.720 --> 02:36:35.096 extensions are within the ordinary sight 3637 02:36:35.120 --> 02:36:38.120 line that is applicable for this street. 3638 02:36:39.280 --> 02:36:41.016 Yes, councelor Thomannman 3639 02:36:41.040 --> 02:36:44.040 just a supplementary question. So it 3640 02:36:44.080 --> 02:36:47.080 seems to be that um 3641 02:36:47.520 --> 02:36:49.415 the addition 3642 02:36:49.439 --> 02:36:52.439 um to this house would be very unique 3643 02:36:55.840 --> 02:36:58.136 in the streets. 3644 02:36:58.160 --> 02:36:59.976 Um so obviously we can't say that the 3645 02:37:00.000 --> 02:37:02.616 streets have to remain the same forever. 3646 02:37:02.640 --> 02:37:05.640 Um and I think this addition is quite 3647 02:37:07.840 --> 02:37:10.696 um 3648 02:37:10.720 --> 02:37:12.216 don't want to say dramatic but you know 3649 02:37:12.240 --> 02:37:14.295 dramatic enough for to be to be raised. 3650 02:37:14.319 --> 02:37:17.319 So is the 3651 02:37:18.479 --> 02:37:20.216 can that be taken into consideration 3652 02:37:20.240 --> 02:37:22.136 when assessing or I suppose you have 3653 02:37:22.160 --> 02:37:23.576 taken that into consideration with 3654 02:37:23.600 --> 02:37:25.896 assessing and you don't think that it is 3655 02:37:25.920 --> 02:37:28.455 too detrimental to the heritage fabric 3656 02:37:28.479 --> 02:37:30.776 of the entire street. 3657 02:37:30.800 --> 02:37:32.136 Yes. Thank you for the question through 3658 02:37:32.160 --> 02:37:34.056 you deputy ma'am. yes the context of 3659 02:37:34.080 --> 02:37:36.936 the site is considered um different 3660 02:37:36.960 --> 02:37:38.216 developments that have occurred in the 3661 02:37:38.240 --> 02:37:40.136 area taken into account the intactness 3662 02:37:40.160 --> 02:37:43.096 of the street. Um there are examples for 3663 02:37:43.120 --> 02:37:45.576 20 Ltown Street where similar 3664 02:37:45.600 --> 02:37:48.600 developments have occurred. Um and 3665 02:37:48.800 --> 02:37:51.096 there's also some diversity within 3666 02:37:51.120 --> 02:37:53.016 the streetscape in terms of the housing 3667 02:37:53.040 --> 02:37:54.936 stock that's there. While it's 3668 02:37:54.960 --> 02:37:56.776 predominantly heritage properties, they 3669 02:37:56.800 --> 02:37:58.536 are there is some diversity. That means 3670 02:37:58.560 --> 02:38:01.016 that there's different expectations and 3671 02:38:01.040 --> 02:38:04.040 opportunities um for additions on these 3672 02:38:04.319 --> 02:38:06.936 sites. 3673 02:38:06.960 --> 02:38:09.176 Thank you. Any more questions from 3674 02:38:09.200 --> 02:38:11.656 counselors? 3675 02:38:11.680 --> 02:38:13.976 Thank you councilors. 3676 02:38:14.000 --> 02:38:16.616 we have an officer's recommendation 3677 02:38:16.640 --> 02:38:18.375 before us. Would someone like to move 3678 02:38:18.399 --> 02:38:21.399 this or something different? 3679 02:38:22.800 --> 02:38:25.656 Thank you, councelor Min. Do we have a 3680 02:38:25.680 --> 02:38:28.680 second? 3681 02:38:30.800 --> 02:38:32.856 Okay, I'll second. 3682 02:38:32.880 --> 02:38:35.496 Councelor Consol. Thank you. Seconded. 3683 02:38:35.520 --> 02:38:38.520 , councelor M. 3684 02:38:39.600 --> 02:38:41.576 Planning is often a case of you're 3685 02:38:41.600 --> 02:38:42.856 damned if you do and you're damned if 3686 02:38:42.880 --> 02:38:45.880 you don't. you know it's a challenge 3687 02:38:46.800 --> 02:38:49.800 of balancing 3688 02:38:50.399 --> 02:38:52.375 council's abilities to influence 3689 02:38:52.399 --> 02:38:54.616 planning applications subject to the 3690 02:38:54.640 --> 02:38:56.295 restrictions that are now in place 3691 02:38:56.319 --> 02:38:59.319 through the state government and you 3692 02:38:59.439 --> 02:39:02.439 know this is yet another example of yeah 3693 02:39:02.479 --> 02:39:05.479 it may not be perfect but on the 3694 02:39:06.000 --> 02:39:08.856 balance of what is before us the 3695 02:39:08.880 --> 02:39:11.176 application does have merit in terms of 3696 02:39:11.200 --> 02:39:13.415 what council can consider before it's 3697 02:39:13.439 --> 02:39:14.776 ringment. 3698 02:39:14.800 --> 02:39:17.016 Thank you, councelor Consol. 3699 02:39:17.040 --> 02:39:20.040 Thank you. Um, I looked at this 3700 02:39:20.080 --> 02:39:22.375 application a bit late, but um, the 3701 02:39:22.399 --> 02:39:23.736 first thing I saw were the objections 3702 02:39:23.760 --> 02:39:26.216 and hearing people and everything. , 3703 02:39:26.240 --> 02:39:29.016 and I then looked at the plans and I was 3704 02:39:29.040 --> 02:39:30.216 a little surprised because I didn't find 3705 02:39:30.240 --> 02:39:33.240 the heritage aspects to be that um, 3706 02:39:34.640 --> 02:39:37.176 not with I could support them. They they 3707 02:39:37.200 --> 02:39:38.536 didn't bother me too much. They didn't 3708 02:39:38.560 --> 02:39:40.455 alert me. But then I went to more of the 3709 02:39:40.479 --> 02:39:43.335 amenity aspects and I am an architect um 3710 02:39:43.359 --> 02:39:46.136 myself residential so there's a few 3711 02:39:46.160 --> 02:39:48.936 things that stuck out to me and it was 3712 02:39:48.960 --> 02:39:50.455 hard to read the plans on a few things 3713 02:39:50.479 --> 02:39:53.479 quickly and also just um the way they're 3714 02:39:54.319 --> 02:39:56.616 laid out where where there's dimensions 3715 02:39:56.640 --> 02:39:57.656 where there's not dimensions where 3716 02:39:57.680 --> 02:39:59.016 there's details. It was it was a bit 3717 02:39:59.040 --> 02:40:01.576 complicated to see it and also this the 3718 02:40:01.600 --> 02:40:04.600 terracing like that change is very 3719 02:40:04.640 --> 02:40:06.616 different than a lot of our flat areas 3720 02:40:06.640 --> 02:40:09.640 in Port Phillip. But I also disagree and 3721 02:40:10.399 --> 02:40:12.295 don't like the rules that it's taken 3722 02:40:12.319 --> 02:40:14.295 from this natural ground line, but the 3723 02:40:14.319 --> 02:40:17.319 property below it is now far below and 3724 02:40:17.520 --> 02:40:20.056 that wall that we were saying, oh, a 3.2 3725 02:40:20.080 --> 02:40:23.080 average and 3.6 max can be basically 3726 02:40:23.200 --> 02:40:25.415 disregarded. We'll just add an extra 3727 02:40:25.439 --> 02:40:28.136 meter or two on that height of the wall. 3728 02:40:28.160 --> 02:40:30.136 But the person next door feels that 3729 02:40:30.160 --> 02:40:33.160 height of the wall being so big. Um, so 3730 02:40:33.200 --> 02:40:36.200 I I don't I don't like that. But I also 3731 02:40:37.040 --> 02:40:38.776 am concerned about this easement. I 3732 02:40:38.800 --> 02:40:39.736 don't know what's in the easement. I 3733 02:40:39.760 --> 02:40:42.760 have no um I don't know the project. But 3734 02:40:43.760 --> 02:40:45.335 there's a difference in what planning 3735 02:40:45.359 --> 02:40:47.256 allows and what building allows. So 3736 02:40:47.280 --> 02:40:48.696 during the next phase during the 3737 02:40:48.720 --> 02:40:50.776 building permit, the approvals will have 3738 02:40:50.800 --> 02:40:52.455 to be done about whether or not it's 3739 02:40:52.479 --> 02:40:54.536 suitable to build over that easement. 3740 02:40:54.560 --> 02:40:56.056 And I'm not sure, but that would 3741 02:40:56.080 --> 02:40:57.896 obviously set the building back if it 3742 02:40:57.920 --> 02:41:00.375 wasn't allowed to be built over it. Um a 3743 02:41:00.399 --> 02:41:03.016 lot of the other concerns raised by the 3744 02:41:03.040 --> 02:41:05.816 neighbors saying um you know the 3745 02:41:05.840 --> 02:41:07.415 construction of that wall on the 3746 02:41:07.439 --> 02:41:09.816 boundary worried about their property 3747 02:41:09.840 --> 02:41:11.176 that is also addressed during the 3748 02:41:11.200 --> 02:41:13.816 building permit and I understand that 3749 02:41:13.840 --> 02:41:16.136 you want to make sure that your asset is 3750 02:41:16.160 --> 02:41:18.616 looked after as well. It is a an intense 3751 02:41:18.640 --> 02:41:21.496 build going a basement, a pullover 3752 02:41:21.520 --> 02:41:23.736 basement, an extension, but when it 3753 02:41:23.760 --> 02:41:26.760 coMears to um 3754 02:41:26.880 --> 02:41:29.576 Okay. so I'm just getting note that 3755 02:41:29.600 --> 02:41:31.016 confirm on the title there is no 3756 02:41:31.040 --> 02:41:32.696 easement, but yet on the site survey 3757 02:41:32.720 --> 02:41:35.720 there is. So that's why I'm that's why I 3758 02:41:36.560 --> 02:41:38.295 raised it. So I don't I don't even have 3759 02:41:38.319 --> 02:41:40.536 the removed in fib. Okay. Sorry. So I've 3760 02:41:40.560 --> 02:41:41.976 got wrong information, but doesn't make 3761 02:41:42.000 --> 02:41:43.256 a difference. It that was all about the 3762 02:41:43.280 --> 02:41:45.896 building permit doesn't affect planning. 3763 02:41:45.920 --> 02:41:48.920 Um, so I feel for number 16, I really 3764 02:41:50.160 --> 02:41:51.256 think you're getting the wrong end of 3765 02:41:51.280 --> 02:41:54.280 the deal. But when it coMears to the what 3766 02:41:54.880 --> 02:41:57.880 planning is allowing and the items, um, 3767 02:41:58.720 --> 02:42:00.375 I even checked the ramp and I can see 3768 02:42:00.399 --> 02:42:02.856 that the 1.7 overlooking that's on the 3769 02:42:02.880 --> 02:42:05.656 18 Merchant side. Just picking up on 3770 02:42:05.680 --> 02:42:07.816 what was said and checking it. There's a 3771 02:42:07.840 --> 02:42:09.496 lot of things that are actually 3772 02:42:09.520 --> 02:42:11.415 addressed in the plans that are hard to 3773 02:42:11.439 --> 02:42:14.439 find. Um, but that was there. , I 3774 02:42:15.040 --> 02:42:16.696 asked about getting some amendments and 3775 02:42:16.720 --> 02:42:18.295 I'm going to run out of , but 3776 02:42:18.319 --> 02:42:20.375 everything I asked for, like lowering 3777 02:42:20.399 --> 02:42:21.816 part of the roof of that western 3778 02:42:21.840 --> 02:42:24.455 boundary, , it was deemed to comply. 3779 02:42:24.479 --> 02:42:25.896 Some of the overlooking things deemed to 3780 02:42:25.920 --> 02:42:28.856 comply. , I disagree that some were 3781 02:42:28.880 --> 02:42:30.536 pushing it a little bit like the the 3782 02:42:30.560 --> 02:42:33.256 boundary fence is now hugely high to 3783 02:42:33.280 --> 02:42:35.415 allow them to not have overlooking on 3784 02:42:35.439 --> 02:42:38.136 that back wall, back windows. It's 3785 02:42:38.160 --> 02:42:39.656 unfair, but it complies. And that's 3786 02:42:39.680 --> 02:42:41.496 where it's really unfortunate. I'm sorry 3787 02:42:41.520 --> 02:42:43.096 that I will be supporting it. I tried 3788 02:42:43.120 --> 02:42:44.216 really hard to find the things that 3789 02:42:44.240 --> 02:42:46.856 would help alleviate this, but it does 3790 02:42:46.880 --> 02:42:47.736 comply. 3791 02:42:47.760 --> 02:42:50.696 Thank you, Councelor Consol. 3792 02:42:50.720 --> 02:42:52.856 Are there any other counselors who wish 3793 02:42:52.880 --> 02:42:55.880 to speak against this motion? Councelor 3794 02:42:56.960 --> 02:42:59.496 Betty J. 3795 02:42:59.520 --> 02:43:01.816 Um, I will speak against this motion. In 3796 02:43:01.840 --> 02:43:03.496 fact, I will not be supporting it 3797 02:43:03.520 --> 02:43:05.896 tonight. When there's this many public 3798 02:43:05.920 --> 02:43:08.216 objections, it becoMears a question for 3799 02:43:08.240 --> 02:43:10.616 me. Not has planning ticked all the 3800 02:43:10.640 --> 02:43:12.295 boxes because we're very efficient and 3801 02:43:12.319 --> 02:43:13.976 we usually do, but at this point, it's a 3802 02:43:14.000 --> 02:43:15.736 question for me. Does does this 3803 02:43:15.760 --> 02:43:17.896 development fit our neighborhood, our 3804 02:43:17.920 --> 02:43:20.216 heritage, and our landscape? The 3805 02:43:20.240 --> 02:43:23.016 residents say no. And so do I. It does 3806 02:43:23.040 --> 02:43:25.496 not may may comply with planning, but it 3807 02:43:25.520 --> 02:43:27.656 does not comply with our community. So, 3808 02:43:27.680 --> 02:43:29.415 I will absolutely support the community 3809 02:43:29.439 --> 02:43:32.439 and object and reject 3810 02:43:32.479 --> 02:43:34.776 this motion tonight. 3811 02:43:34.800 --> 02:43:36.856 Thank you, Councelor J. Councelor 3812 02:43:36.880 --> 02:43:39.816 Buckingham. 3813 02:43:39.840 --> 02:43:41.816 I'd like to foreshadow that if this 3814 02:43:41.840 --> 02:43:44.056 motion fails, I'll bring an alternative 3815 02:43:44.080 --> 02:43:47.080 recommendation rejecting the application 3816 02:43:47.200 --> 02:43:49.976 tonight. And the reasons for this are 3817 02:43:50.000 --> 02:43:52.536 that um I went along to the consultation 3818 02:43:52.560 --> 02:43:54.455 meeting and I've looked at all the 3819 02:43:54.479 --> 02:43:56.696 information that's been provided. I have 3820 02:43:56.720 --> 02:43:58.216 concerns about the actual 3821 02:43:58.240 --> 02:44:00.056 construction process that will be taken 3822 02:44:00.080 --> 02:44:03.080 up in the building process. But here one 3823 02:44:03.600 --> 02:44:06.600 of the key things we must consider is 3824 02:44:07.040 --> 02:44:10.040 the heritage and anyone who knows 3825 02:44:10.080 --> 02:44:12.696 Merchesen Street we've heard from a 3826 02:44:12.720 --> 02:44:14.776 number of objectors about the character 3827 02:44:14.800 --> 02:44:17.335 of this street and the heritage overlay. 3828 02:44:17.359 --> 02:44:20.136 I believe the bulk goes against the 3829 02:44:20.160 --> 02:44:23.016 heritage of the place, particularly the 3830 02:44:23.040 --> 02:44:26.040 rear roof and the staircase 3831 02:44:26.240 --> 02:44:29.240 that's front facing the street. 3832 02:44:29.680 --> 02:44:32.680 And while there have been um amendments 3833 02:44:33.760 --> 02:44:36.056 and changes to the materials used and 3834 02:44:36.080 --> 02:44:38.536 and other things, I still think that 3835 02:44:38.560 --> 02:44:41.176 this will dramatically alter the 3836 02:44:41.200 --> 02:44:44.200 character of one of our most historic 3837 02:44:44.800 --> 02:44:46.936 streets of St. Kilder East. 3838 02:44:46.960 --> 02:44:49.960 Thank you, councelor Buckingham. 3839 02:44:50.080 --> 02:44:53.080 , councelor M to close. 3840 02:44:54.160 --> 02:44:57.160 , well, I I wanted to in some ways 3841 02:44:58.800 --> 02:45:01.255 speed up the process and I wanted to ask 3842 02:45:01.279 --> 02:45:03.176 those councilors who were going to speak 3843 02:45:03.200 --> 02:45:04.295 against the motion. 3844 02:45:04.319 --> 02:45:06.056 Y 3845 02:45:06.080 --> 02:45:08.375 councelor, 3846 02:45:08.399 --> 02:45:09.976 did you wish to 3847 02:45:10.000 --> 02:45:12.295 Yes, I wish to speak. And, , you know, 3848 02:45:12.319 --> 02:45:15.319 I will not support the motion. Um 3849 02:45:16.319 --> 02:45:19.319 um I'm not against the changes but I 3850 02:45:20.160 --> 02:45:21.976 think something can happen there and can 3851 02:45:22.000 --> 02:45:24.696 be better than what's proposed and u 3852 02:45:24.720 --> 02:45:27.176 without creating like in the whole 3853 02:45:27.200 --> 02:45:29.096 street is against it you know I remember 3854 02:45:29.120 --> 02:45:32.120 my first big case as a council I had 168 3855 02:45:33.120 --> 02:45:34.856 objections in veil street the whole 3856 02:45:34.880 --> 02:45:37.880 street was against it but we had it 3857 02:45:38.319 --> 02:45:41.176 approved um but in this case I think 3858 02:45:41.200 --> 02:45:44.200 it's a it's a closenit street and 3859 02:45:45.279 --> 02:45:48.279 development is not that great and it can 3860 02:45:49.120 --> 02:45:52.120 be better. Um so something can happen 3861 02:45:53.600 --> 02:45:56.600 but it can be a bit more respectful of 3862 02:45:57.200 --> 02:46:00.200 the heritage of the in that street. 3863 02:46:01.680 --> 02:46:04.455 Thank you councelor Min and can I 3864 02:46:04.479 --> 02:46:07.479 just remind all councilors we need to 3865 02:46:07.600 --> 02:46:10.295 conclude this item by 10:25 in order for 3866 02:46:10.319 --> 02:46:13.319 us to extend should we need to do so. 3867 02:46:13.520 --> 02:46:15.736 Thank you. 3868 02:46:15.760 --> 02:46:18.056 Councils 3869 02:46:18.080 --> 02:46:20.216 are guided by the planning environment 3870 02:46:20.240 --> 02:46:22.455 act of 19887 3871 02:46:22.479 --> 02:46:24.136 when making planning decisions and it 3872 02:46:24.160 --> 02:46:27.016 deems us as the responsible authority 3873 02:46:27.040 --> 02:46:28.295 and you know that doesn't necessarily 3874 02:46:28.319 --> 02:46:31.096 give us scope around what is the best 3875 02:46:31.120 --> 02:46:33.736 outcome. It actually requires us to 3876 02:46:33.760 --> 02:46:36.760 consider this in the context of what is 3877 02:46:37.760 --> 02:46:40.616 permissible under policy the planning 3878 02:46:40.640 --> 02:46:43.640 scheme etc. And that is why you know 3879 02:46:44.319 --> 02:46:46.375 applications like this and I think we 3880 02:46:46.399 --> 02:46:49.096 can all agree it is not the best outcome 3881 02:46:49.120 --> 02:46:51.656 is still an outcome that under the 3882 02:46:51.680 --> 02:46:53.176 confines of the acts that we are 3883 02:46:53.200 --> 02:46:56.200 governed by needs to be supported. 3884 02:46:57.120 --> 02:47:00.120 I'm happy to put the motion. 3885 02:47:01.439 --> 02:47:04.439 Thank you. 3886 02:47:05.680 --> 02:47:08.616 Okay. Thank you. I'll now put the 3887 02:47:08.640 --> 02:47:11.415 motion to the vote. 3888 02:47:11.439 --> 02:47:14.439 All those in favor 3889 02:47:15.680 --> 02:47:16.536 their naMears. 3890 02:47:16.560 --> 02:47:19.560 Yes. councelor Consolo, councelor Min 3891 02:47:21.120 --> 02:47:22.856 and 3892 02:47:22.880 --> 02:47:24.536 and all those. 3893 02:47:24.560 --> 02:47:25.896 Okay. 3894 02:47:25.920 --> 02:47:28.920 I am in favor. So all those against 3895 02:47:30.160 --> 02:47:32.936 Council Buckingham, Councelor Tomman, 3896 02:47:32.960 --> 02:47:35.960 Councelor Jay. 3897 02:47:39.120 --> 02:47:41.736 Okay. So, 3898 02:47:41.760 --> 02:47:44.760 I will vote and the vote falls to me as 3899 02:47:44.880 --> 02:47:47.880 the casting vote and I'm voting in favor 3900 02:47:48.640 --> 02:47:51.640 of the motion. Thank you. 3901 02:47:55.040 --> 02:47:57.096 Can you just explain that process maybe 3902 02:47:57.120 --> 02:47:59.976 to the crowd please? 3903 02:48:00.000 --> 02:48:01.496 Yep. 3904 02:48:01.520 --> 02:48:04.520 so I I can do this on behalf of the 3905 02:48:04.800 --> 02:48:07.800 chair. so under our governance rules 3906 02:48:08.000 --> 02:48:11.000 provision 62 when we have a split 3907 02:48:11.600 --> 02:48:13.576 vote which we do in this case where we 3908 02:48:13.600 --> 02:48:16.600 have six councilors voting three and 3909 02:48:17.359 --> 02:48:20.359 three the chair has um must exercise a 3910 02:48:21.040 --> 02:48:23.415 casting vote and that is the definitive 3911 02:48:23.439 --> 02:48:25.896 vote. 3912 02:48:25.920 --> 02:48:28.216 Thank you. 3913 02:48:28.240 --> 02:48:30.455 Okay. So that's concluded. ask the 3914 02:48:30.479 --> 02:48:33.415 deputy mayor to give a 3915 02:48:33.439 --> 02:48:36.439 vote. 3916 02:48:48.160 --> 02:48:51.160 just just everyone wait. 3917 02:48:54.560 --> 02:48:57.560 Yeah. 3918 02:48:59.600 --> 02:49:02.600 Sure. Ask for members for call their 3919 02:49:03.680 --> 02:49:05.736 naMears. 3920 02:49:05.760 --> 02:49:07.415 Sure. 3921 02:49:07.439 --> 02:49:10.439 Okay. Thank you. I 3922 02:49:10.720 --> 02:49:13.720 I will not be providing details of 3923 02:49:14.560 --> 02:49:16.696 the reason for my decision at this point 3924 02:49:16.720 --> 02:49:19.096 in . Thank you. we have the call 3925 02:49:19.120 --> 02:49:21.736 for a division. and in which case 3926 02:49:21.760 --> 02:49:24.760 I'll call again for all those in favor. 3927 02:49:25.840 --> 02:49:28.455 That's Min, Councelor Min, Council 3928 02:49:28.479 --> 02:49:31.479 Penso, and myself. 3929 02:49:31.840 --> 02:49:34.375 All those against. 3930 02:49:34.399 --> 02:49:36.856 Councelor Tomman, Councelor Jay, and 3931 02:49:36.880 --> 02:49:39.880 Councelor Buckingham. Thank you. 3932 02:49:41.200 --> 02:49:44.200 The vote is carried. 3933 02:49:45.279 --> 02:49:47.896 And we will now move on to the next one 3934 02:49:47.920 --> 02:49:50.136 at 7.1, which is the presentation of the 3935 02:49:50.160 --> 02:49:53.160 CEO's report. 3936 02:49:54.160 --> 02:49:57.160 Chambers. Yeah. 3937 02:49:57.760 --> 02:49:59.656 if you wish to leave chambers, you 3938 02:49:59.680 --> 02:50:02.680 can please go ahead. 3939 02:50:09.840 --> 02:50:12.776 Okay, Justin's back. 3940 02:50:12.800 --> 02:50:15.496 Order, Deputy Mayor, as per provision in 3941 02:50:15.520 --> 02:50:18.520 our governance rules, , 10.1, 10.2. We 3942 02:50:19.680 --> 02:50:21.576 need a resolution to continue this 3943 02:50:21.600 --> 02:50:23.896 meeting. If we go beyond, , three and 3944 02:50:23.920 --> 02:50:25.176 a half hours, we're getting close to 3945 02:50:25.200 --> 02:50:27.496 that. It might be worth taking that , 3946 02:50:27.520 --> 02:50:29.096 procedural motion now. 3947 02:50:29.120 --> 02:50:30.936 So, we've got that up. , we'll just 3948 02:50:30.960 --> 02:50:33.335 get that up on the screen. We can take 3949 02:50:33.359 --> 02:50:34.616 that to 3950 02:50:34.640 --> 02:50:37.640 Yep. 3951 02:50:48.479 --> 02:50:51.016 So, in order for us to extend the 3952 02:50:51.040 --> 02:50:52.936 meeting 3953 02:50:52.960 --> 02:50:55.960 and we are able under sub rules 10.2 2 3954 02:50:56.800 --> 02:50:59.800 and 10.3 a meeting shall not continue 3955 02:51:00.000 --> 02:51:01.896 beyond three and a half hours. It's 3956 02:51:01.920 --> 02:51:04.920 about to do so. So we are able to vote 3957 02:51:06.399 --> 02:51:08.776 for two extensions of up to 30 minutes 3958 02:51:08.800 --> 02:51:11.800 each. Um and in which case we need to 3959 02:51:15.359 --> 02:51:18.359 have someone move a motion. 3960 02:51:18.399 --> 02:51:20.696 Councelor Min 3961 02:51:20.720 --> 02:51:23.656 Councelor Toman seconded. So we will 3962 02:51:23.680 --> 02:51:26.680 move to continue the or extend the 3963 02:51:27.760 --> 02:51:29.335 meeting for a further half an hour 3964 02:51:29.359 --> 02:51:32.359 beyond the period which is 10:30. 3965 02:51:34.160 --> 02:51:35.496 And of course we're going to vote for 3966 02:51:35.520 --> 02:51:38.520 that. So all those in favor 3967 02:51:38.960 --> 02:51:41.960 unanimous. Thank you. 3968 02:51:43.279 --> 02:51:44.616 Yeah. 3969 02:51:44.640 --> 02:51:46.295 Then we have another half hour extension 3970 02:51:46.319 --> 02:51:48.856 if we need. 3971 02:51:48.880 --> 02:51:51.880 We can go again if we'd like to. 3972 02:51:53.279 --> 02:51:54.856 Thank you. 3973 02:51:54.880 --> 02:51:57.880 Thank you. so 3974 02:51:58.319 --> 02:52:00.536 report number 7.1 the presentation of 3975 02:52:00.560 --> 02:52:03.560 CEO report issue 120 July 2025. 3976 02:52:05.920 --> 02:52:08.920 please note on page 17 of the CEO 3977 02:52:09.040 --> 02:52:11.415 report the completion date of St Kilda 3978 02:52:11.439 --> 02:52:14.439 Pier landslide landside works project 3979 02:52:14.720 --> 02:52:17.720 should be February 2026 3980 02:52:18.000 --> 02:52:21.000 rather than June 2026. This will be 3981 02:52:21.279 --> 02:52:23.656 updated in the final CEO report 3982 02:52:23.680 --> 02:52:26.680 published to councelor's website. 3983 02:52:27.520 --> 02:52:29.415 3984 02:52:29.439 --> 02:52:31.255 are there any questions of the officers 3985 02:52:31.279 --> 02:52:34.279 in relation to this report? 3986 02:52:40.319 --> 02:52:43.319 and section 3.3 3987 02:52:45.040 --> 02:52:47.576 in the recommendation 3988 02:52:47.600 --> 02:52:50.056 approves the increase 3989 02:52:50.080 --> 02:52:53.080 in funding from 1.44 44 million to 1 3990 02:52:56.319 --> 02:52:58.616 55 million from the storm water 3991 02:52:58.640 --> 02:53:00.696 harvesting program for council's 3992 02:53:00.720 --> 02:53:02.936 contribution to the Elwood Park 3993 02:53:02.960 --> 02:53:05.960 expansion stormwater harvesting scheme. 3994 02:53:08.479 --> 02:53:10.216 Councelor Halliday 3995 02:53:10.240 --> 02:53:12.936 my question is actually related to 3996 02:53:12.960 --> 02:53:15.096 that point 3.3. Is it normal that we 3997 02:53:15.120 --> 02:53:18.120 would have a budget item here in the in 3998 02:53:18.160 --> 02:53:21.160 the kind of acceptance of a report? 3999 02:53:26.160 --> 02:53:29.160 through you may it is done 4000 02:53:29.439 --> 02:53:31.096 councelor Hallidayiday. It's not a 4001 02:53:31.120 --> 02:53:33.335 frequent occurrence but it is it is done 4002 02:53:33.359 --> 02:53:36.359 through the CEO report. Yes, 4003 02:53:36.800 --> 02:53:39.096 councelor Toman. 4004 02:53:39.120 --> 02:53:42.120 Yes, in addition to the date of the 4005 02:53:42.319 --> 02:53:45.319 sila pier, um think we should also 4006 02:53:46.319 --> 02:53:49.319 note that it's on track instead of at 4007 02:53:49.439 --> 02:53:52.216 risk. 4008 02:53:52.240 --> 02:53:54.295 Is that a question? 4009 02:53:54.319 --> 02:53:56.776 Can that be confirmed? 4010 02:53:56.800 --> 02:53:59.096 Yes, Lachlan Johnson. 4011 02:53:59.120 --> 02:54:01.896 through you may um that is correct 4012 02:54:01.920 --> 02:54:04.375 councilman. So through at the end of 4013 02:54:04.399 --> 02:54:06.536 September that is correct but this CEO 4014 02:54:06.560 --> 02:54:09.335 report reflects the status a few 4015 02:54:09.359 --> 02:54:10.936 months ago. At that point there was a 4016 02:54:10.960 --> 02:54:13.176 delay in executing the contract. so 4017 02:54:13.200 --> 02:54:15.016 it was considered at risk but as you 4018 02:54:15.040 --> 02:54:17.255 rightfully say as of today the project 4019 02:54:17.279 --> 02:54:19.656 is back on track 4020 02:54:19.680 --> 02:54:21.896 councelor Min. 4021 02:54:21.920 --> 02:54:23.976 Nothing from you councelor 4022 02:54:24.000 --> 02:54:25.096 Halliday 4023 02:54:25.120 --> 02:54:28.120 Hey know how Lou feels. Um one last 4024 02:54:28.479 --> 02:54:30.536 question here. the the stormwater 4025 02:54:30.560 --> 02:54:32.455 project here. Was this the one that was 4026 02:54:32.479 --> 02:54:34.136 originally funded by the federal 4027 02:54:34.160 --> 02:54:37.160 government ahead of the election before 4028 02:54:37.200 --> 02:54:39.816 last around Elwood Canal and 4029 02:54:39.840 --> 02:54:41.736 originally looking at the um 4030 02:54:41.760 --> 02:54:44.760 renaturalization of the Elwood Canal and 4031 02:54:45.600 --> 02:54:47.656 has it moved on since then? 4032 02:54:47.680 --> 02:54:49.176 4033 02:54:49.200 --> 02:54:51.096 I would through I wouldn't say it has 4034 02:54:51.120 --> 02:54:54.056 moved on. I would say this is the um 4035 02:54:54.080 --> 02:54:57.080 this is the federal government 4036 02:54:57.359 --> 02:54:59.255 election commitment is included in 4037 02:54:59.279 --> 02:55:01.016 there. It's broken then into two parts. 4038 02:55:01.040 --> 02:55:03.576 One is the replanting of the wood canal 4039 02:55:03.600 --> 02:55:05.816 and the other is the storm water 4040 02:55:05.840 --> 02:55:08.776 harvesting project. 4041 02:55:08.800 --> 02:55:11.800 Thank you. Any further questions? 4042 02:55:14.160 --> 02:55:16.216 Councelor Tman, 4043 02:55:16.240 --> 02:55:18.216 you're happy to move. We have a 4044 02:55:18.240 --> 02:55:21.240 seconder. Councelor Halliday 4045 02:55:22.160 --> 02:55:22.696 No 4046 02:55:22.720 --> 02:55:25.415 comment. second councelor 4047 02:55:25.439 --> 02:55:27.496 Hallidayiday. Thank you. I'll put it to 4048 02:55:27.520 --> 02:55:30.520 the vote. All those in favor? 4049 02:55:31.120 --> 02:55:34.120 That's unanimous. Thank you councilors. 4050 02:55:35.359 --> 02:55:38.056 We move to 4051 02:55:38.080 --> 02:55:40.856 12.1. Status of council decisions and 4052 02:55:40.880 --> 02:55:43.496 questions taken on notice recorded by 4053 02:55:43.520 --> 02:55:45.896 council 1st of April to the 30th of June 4054 02:55:45.920 --> 02:55:48.776 2025. 4055 02:55:48.800 --> 02:55:49.896 question 4056 02:55:49.920 --> 02:55:52.375 in which case councelor Mak 4057 02:55:52.399 --> 02:55:54.216 thank you very much I have a couple of 4058 02:55:54.240 --> 02:55:56.216 questions at the meeting date on the 4059 02:55:56.240 --> 02:55:58.776 20th of March 2024 we had the council 4060 02:55:58.800 --> 02:56:01.255 submission to the fisherman sorry to the 4061 02:56:01.279 --> 02:56:03.016 Victorian government's fisherman band 4062 02:56:03.040 --> 02:56:04.856 urban renewal redevelopment contribution 4063 02:56:04.880 --> 02:56:07.880 plan we also had council submission 4064 02:56:08.399 --> 02:56:10.455 to the Victorian government Montigue 4065 02:56:10.479 --> 02:56:13.016 precinct I've noticed that these 4066 02:56:13.040 --> 02:56:15.096 resolutions included letters sent by the 4067 02:56:15.120 --> 02:56:17.415 then mayor of the day has council 4068 02:56:17.439 --> 02:56:19.496 received received. Oh, sorry, the 4069 02:56:19.520 --> 02:56:22.520 current mayor. Has council received 4070 02:56:23.600 --> 02:56:26.600 responses from those letters? 4071 02:56:27.040 --> 02:56:28.216 Brian T. 4072 02:56:28.240 --> 02:56:31.240 That's my first question. 4073 02:56:33.600 --> 02:56:36.056 Um I I don't know. I'm sorry through 4074 02:56:36.080 --> 02:56:38.375 you, Mayor. I I can't recall whether 4075 02:56:38.399 --> 02:56:41.016 we have received a response, but I can 4076 02:56:41.040 --> 02:56:43.415 let the counselor know tomorrow. 4077 02:56:43.439 --> 02:56:46.295 Thank you very much. Follow-up question. 4078 02:56:46.319 --> 02:56:49.319 yep. separate item on page 162, we 4079 02:56:50.560 --> 02:56:53.255 have the resolution from the 21st of 4080 02:56:53.279 --> 02:56:55.816 August last year in relation to the dog 4081 02:56:55.840 --> 02:56:58.776 off leash guidelines where resolution 4082 02:56:58.800 --> 02:57:00.856 3.9 which was adopted by the then 4083 02:57:00.880 --> 02:57:03.415 council of the day identifies that we're 4084 02:57:03.439 --> 02:57:05.016 going to provide signage that clearly 4085 02:57:05.040 --> 02:57:07.176 communicates the dog off leash status of 4086 02:57:07.200 --> 02:57:09.255 open spaces to ensure that all users 4087 02:57:09.279 --> 02:57:11.736 understand that dogs will be exercising 4088 02:57:11.760 --> 02:57:14.760 exploring off leash in these spaces. 4089 02:57:15.040 --> 02:57:17.656 What is the status in the implementation 4090 02:57:17.680 --> 02:57:20.455 of that resolution? 4091 02:57:20.479 --> 02:57:22.375 Bridget, 4092 02:57:22.399 --> 02:57:24.056 through you, mayor. Um, since the last 4093 02:57:24.080 --> 02:57:25.896 update to councilors on the 20th of 4094 02:57:25.920 --> 02:57:28.216 August at the ordinary council meeting, 4095 02:57:28.240 --> 02:57:29.896 council officers have commenced the 4096 02:57:29.920 --> 02:57:32.136 process for seeking consent under the 4097 02:57:32.160 --> 02:57:35.160 marine and coastal act 2018 to install 4098 02:57:35.359 --> 02:57:37.496 new signage along the foreshore. 4099 02:57:37.520 --> 02:57:39.415 commenced drafting new temporary signs 4100 02:57:39.439 --> 02:57:41.176 for the foreshore which will be in place 4101 02:57:41.200 --> 02:57:43.176 until coastal consent is received for 4102 02:57:43.200 --> 02:57:45.896 permanent signage. Commenced updates to 4103 02:57:45.920 --> 02:57:47.896 the regulatory marker signage at Alwood 4104 02:57:47.920 --> 02:57:50.455 and Port Melbourne beaches. Finalized 4105 02:57:50.479 --> 02:57:52.295 new permanent signs for Kurret Park 4106 02:57:52.319 --> 02:57:54.536 which are now being manufactured and 4107 02:57:54.560 --> 02:57:56.776 commenced designing the new bold playful 4108 02:57:56.800 --> 02:57:58.616 signs that will be coming to council 4109 02:57:58.640 --> 02:58:01.640 next month um for you your 4110 02:58:01.760 --> 02:58:03.096 consideration. 4111 02:58:03.120 --> 02:58:03.736 Thank you. 4112 02:58:03.760 --> 02:58:06.760 Thank you. And my one final question and 4113 02:58:07.600 --> 02:58:10.600 the council meeting of the 7th of May 4114 02:58:10.640 --> 02:58:13.640 2025, we resolved the endorsement of the 4115 02:58:14.160 --> 02:58:16.375 doMearstic draft doMearstic animal 4116 02:58:16.399 --> 02:58:19.399 management plan into final status and 4117 02:58:19.600 --> 02:58:22.600 our resolution there looked at 4118 02:58:24.640 --> 02:58:27.335 up to 12 locations around dog waste 4119 02:58:27.359 --> 02:58:29.576 bags that would be subject to community 4120 02:58:29.600 --> 02:58:31.496 input. What is the frame in 4121 02:58:31.520 --> 02:58:33.096 relation to that community input and 4122 02:58:33.120 --> 02:58:35.096 what will the process be so the 4123 02:58:35.120 --> 02:58:38.056 community can provide input into the 4124 02:58:38.080 --> 02:58:39.816 potential sites? 4125 02:58:39.840 --> 02:58:41.736 Brian Ch. 4126 02:58:41.760 --> 02:58:44.760 thank you um 4127 02:58:44.880 --> 02:58:47.880 acting mayor. the decision of council 4128 02:58:49.200 --> 02:58:52.056 will be acted upon on the 3rd and the 4129 02:58:52.080 --> 02:58:54.375 between the 3rd and the 20th October 4130 02:58:54.399 --> 02:58:56.936 when we will seek community input 4131 02:58:56.960 --> 02:58:59.960 into the to inform the locations of 4132 02:59:00.560 --> 02:59:03.560 the 12 dog waste dispensers. we'll 4133 02:59:04.319 --> 02:59:06.136 also incorporate feedback obtained 4134 02:59:06.160 --> 02:59:08.216 during the recent doMearstic animal 4135 02:59:08.240 --> 02:59:10.375 management plan engagement in 4136 02:59:10.399 --> 02:59:13.335 determining the final locations. Um and 4137 02:59:13.359 --> 02:59:15.016 I suppose the third component is we'll 4138 02:59:15.040 --> 02:59:18.040 make sure that the um locations will be 4139 02:59:18.800 --> 02:59:21.800 spread across the municipality. Um 4140 02:59:22.640 --> 02:59:25.640 the dispensers will be in place from 4141 02:59:25.920 --> 02:59:28.920 well in November which will allow 4142 02:59:30.240 --> 02:59:32.856 um which will be in for summer. 4143 02:59:32.880 --> 02:59:35.016 and communication around the trial 4144 02:59:35.040 --> 02:59:36.776 will include signage next to each 4145 02:59:36.800 --> 02:59:39.176 dispenser and communication as part of 4146 02:59:39.200 --> 02:59:42.200 our summer management roll out. 4147 02:59:42.720 --> 02:59:45.720 question as sorry one follow-up 4148 02:59:45.920 --> 02:59:47.496 question. As part of that resolution, we 4149 02:59:47.520 --> 02:59:49.976 also resolved to work with trader 4150 02:59:50.000 --> 02:59:52.856 associations and businesses along our 4151 02:59:52.880 --> 02:59:54.696 retail precincts, our high street 4152 02:59:54.720 --> 02:59:57.415 precincts around how they could work in 4153 02:59:57.439 --> 02:59:59.176 partnership with council and the 4154 02:59:59.200 --> 03:00:01.736 community around provision of waste dog 4155 03:00:01.760 --> 03:00:04.616 waste bags. what's the status of that 4156 03:00:04.640 --> 03:00:07.576 item and when will that sort of be 4157 03:00:07.600 --> 03:00:10.600 further ad 4158 03:00:11.439 --> 03:00:13.976 thank you and through you um acting 4159 03:00:14.000 --> 03:00:16.536 mayor that the engagement with traders 4160 03:00:16.560 --> 03:00:17.896 will occur as part of that community 4161 03:00:17.920 --> 03:00:19.816 engagement starting on the 3rd to the 4162 03:00:19.840 --> 03:00:22.840 20th of October. 4163 03:00:24.000 --> 03:00:26.856 Thank you, Councelor Tman. 4164 03:00:26.880 --> 03:00:29.880 I just have got a question 4165 03:00:30.160 --> 03:00:33.160 on page about the pedestrian crossing 4166 03:00:34.319 --> 03:00:36.295 out in Chapel Street outside San 4167 03:00:36.319 --> 03:00:39.319 Michaels. there's a motion and it 4168 03:00:40.240 --> 03:00:42.455 says date completed, but you know, for 4169 03:00:42.479 --> 03:00:44.216 me it's not I don't know what's 4170 03:00:44.240 --> 03:00:46.216 completed, but certainly the pedestrian 4171 03:00:46.240 --> 03:00:49.240 crossing isn't there. So cuz you know 4172 03:00:49.359 --> 03:00:50.856 you commence discussion with the school 4173 03:00:50.880 --> 03:00:53.736 and consultation has been prepared but 4174 03:00:53.760 --> 03:00:56.136 why is it marked as completed on that 4175 03:00:56.160 --> 03:00:57.896 list 4176 03:00:57.920 --> 03:00:59.976 because we endorsed to have a delivery 4177 03:01:00.000 --> 03:01:01.976 of a pedestrian crossing. 4178 03:01:02.000 --> 03:01:04.136 Thank you Signal 4179 03:01:04.160 --> 03:01:05.736 Brian Brian T. 4180 03:01:05.760 --> 03:01:08.760 thank you and through you um acting 4181 03:01:09.520 --> 03:01:11.656 mayor it's unclear to me as to why 4182 03:01:11.680 --> 03:01:14.680 it's marked as um completed. I will 4183 03:01:15.680 --> 03:01:18.680 um take that up and um communicate to 4184 03:01:20.160 --> 03:01:22.455 um to councelor Tomman and I thank him 4185 03:01:22.479 --> 03:01:24.936 for noticing um that matter. 4186 03:01:24.960 --> 03:01:26.936 Thank you. 4187 03:01:26.960 --> 03:01:29.960 Any further questions councilors? 4188 03:01:30.560 --> 03:01:33.560 in which case do I have we have an 4189 03:01:34.000 --> 03:01:36.136 officer's recommendation. 4190 03:01:36.160 --> 03:01:37.976 Would someone like to move? 4191 03:01:38.000 --> 03:01:40.375 Thank you question. Thank you, councelor 4192 03:01:40.399 --> 03:01:43.399 Min and councelor Thomann to second. 4193 03:01:44.960 --> 03:01:47.016 Councelor Min. 4194 03:01:47.040 --> 03:01:49.816 Thank you. 4195 03:01:49.840 --> 03:01:52.295 Excellent. we're all we're all in 4196 03:01:52.319 --> 03:01:54.696 agreement. 4197 03:01:54.720 --> 03:01:57.656 so we'll put that 4198 03:01:57.680 --> 03:01:59.016 Oh, we 4199 03:01:59.040 --> 03:02:00.536 Oh, sorry. You w I thought you were 4200 03:02:00.560 --> 03:02:02.856 waving to me, Justin. councilors, can 4201 03:02:02.880 --> 03:02:04.216 we put it to the vote? All those in 4202 03:02:04.240 --> 03:02:05.976 favor? 4203 03:02:06.000 --> 03:02:09.000 That's unanimous. Thank you. Moving 4204 03:02:10.880 --> 03:02:13.880 to my favorite report 12.2 councelor 4205 03:02:14.240 --> 03:02:17.240 expenses monthly reporting August 2025. 4206 03:02:18.399 --> 03:02:21.176 Are there any questions councilors to 4207 03:02:21.200 --> 03:02:23.335 this 4208 03:02:23.359 --> 03:02:24.776 recommendate? Yes, councelor 4209 03:02:24.800 --> 03:02:27.576 Halliday 4210 03:02:27.600 --> 03:02:29.656 Um 4211 03:02:29.680 --> 03:02:31.976 I note that two of the councils 4212 03:02:32.000 --> 03:02:33.976 attended a um conference recently and 4213 03:02:34.000 --> 03:02:37.000 that appears in their reports in 4214 03:02:37.520 --> 03:02:40.216 their expenses here. But a third 4215 03:02:40.240 --> 03:02:43.240 counselor I understand attended the same 4216 03:02:43.520 --> 03:02:45.415 conference but that does not appear in 4217 03:02:45.439 --> 03:02:48.439 their expenses. 4218 03:02:51.279 --> 03:02:54.279 councelor Hallidayiday, I'd have to um 4219 03:02:54.399 --> 03:02:55.896 take that on notice and come back to 4220 03:02:55.920 --> 03:02:58.920 you. I suspect it's when the payments 4221 03:02:58.960 --> 03:03:01.496 were processed. So I imagine if it isn't 4222 03:03:01.520 --> 03:03:03.415 captured in this month, it might just be 4223 03:03:03.439 --> 03:03:06.216 a quirk of the processing of payments. 4224 03:03:06.240 --> 03:03:08.375 But I will come back to you to confirm 4225 03:03:08.399 --> 03:03:10.696 that's the case. 4226 03:03:10.720 --> 03:03:13.576 Any further questions? 4227 03:03:13.600 --> 03:03:15.176 Councilors, I have a recommendation. 4228 03:03:15.200 --> 03:03:16.936 Would someone like to move this or 4229 03:03:16.960 --> 03:03:19.016 something different? We have a mover. 4230 03:03:19.040 --> 03:03:21.896 Councelor Thomann. Council Halliday to 4231 03:03:21.920 --> 03:03:24.920 second comment. Council. No. Councelor 4232 03:03:25.359 --> 03:03:27.736 Halliday. No, we'll put it to the vote. 4233 03:03:27.760 --> 03:03:30.696 All those in favor? 4234 03:03:30.720 --> 03:03:33.720 Thank you. That is unanimous. 4235 03:03:36.399 --> 03:03:38.936 Thank you. we're moving to 13.1 4236 03:03:38.960 --> 03:03:41.960 Procurement Australia renewal 2026 to 4237 03:03:42.319 --> 03:03:44.856 2029. 4238 03:03:44.880 --> 03:03:47.656 Councilors, are there any questions on 4239 03:03:47.680 --> 03:03:50.680 this report? 4240 03:03:51.920 --> 03:03:54.920 No questions on this report. Councilors, 4241 03:03:55.760 --> 03:03:57.496 we have an officer's recommendation. 4242 03:03:57.520 --> 03:03:59.096 Would someone like to move this or 4243 03:03:59.120 --> 03:04:02.120 something different? 4244 03:04:02.399 --> 03:04:05.399 , we have a mover. 4245 03:04:06.240 --> 03:04:09.240 We are on procurement Australia. 4246 03:04:11.359 --> 03:04:14.359 Are you going to second it or move it? 4247 03:04:15.520 --> 03:04:17.415 Councelor Hallidayiday. Thank you. We got 4248 03:04:17.439 --> 03:04:20.439 there in the end. Councelor Tman. 4249 03:04:20.479 --> 03:04:22.856 We'll second. Councelor Hallidayiday, 4250 03:04:22.880 --> 03:04:25.255 have you got a comment 4251 03:04:25.279 --> 03:04:27.415 or two? , I'll just speak to this 4252 03:04:27.439 --> 03:04:29.255 really briefly. Um, here we have added 4253 03:04:29.279 --> 03:04:32.279 discussion about um the substance of 4254 03:04:33.920 --> 03:04:35.335 sorry, in our briefings we have 4255 03:04:35.359 --> 03:04:38.359 discussed um the use of the procure 4256 03:04:38.399 --> 03:04:41.399 procurement panels here and the um 4257 03:04:42.560 --> 03:04:44.536 the commitment of this funding over the 4258 03:04:44.560 --> 03:04:47.560 course of the agreement and I understand 4259 03:04:48.319 --> 03:04:49.896 um that we were comfortable with that. 4260 03:04:49.920 --> 03:04:52.696 So I will support this. 4261 03:04:52.720 --> 03:04:55.415 Okay. 4262 03:04:55.439 --> 03:04:58.439 Councelor Toman. Um given the magnitude 4263 03:05:00.160 --> 03:05:03.160 of this report, the I want to make sure 4264 03:05:03.920 --> 03:05:05.816 that all counselors have an opportunity 4265 03:05:05.840 --> 03:05:08.840 to comment or speak to this report. 4266 03:05:12.960 --> 03:05:14.536 And 4267 03:05:14.560 --> 03:05:17.560 councelor Thomann, do you wish to comment? 4268 03:05:18.800 --> 03:05:20.776 you know obviously the report is for 37 4269 03:05:20.800 --> 03:05:22.536 million or something like that so it is 4270 03:05:22.560 --> 03:05:25.335 an important report 4271 03:05:25.359 --> 03:05:26.295 46 million 4272 03:05:26.319 --> 03:05:28.936 46 million so I think the work that has 4273 03:05:28.960 --> 03:05:31.960 been put in by officers and the CEO 4274 03:05:32.080 --> 03:05:34.776 to to go to this stage has to be 4275 03:05:34.800 --> 03:05:37.800 recommended and it is obviously better 4276 03:05:38.880 --> 03:05:41.880 services better value for potentially 4277 03:05:42.560 --> 03:05:45.560 for this council so um um again I'm 4278 03:05:46.960 --> 03:05:49.960 trust officers and their professional to 4279 03:05:50.399 --> 03:05:53.399 secure um 4280 03:05:53.520 --> 03:05:55.096 this contract. 4281 03:05:55.120 --> 03:05:57.335 I'll go to Lachlan Johnson 4282 03:05:57.359 --> 03:05:59.816 through May. I just clarify it's $36 4283 03:05:59.840 --> 03:06:02.840 million for the four years or a $7.9 4284 03:06:04.000 --> 03:06:06.295 million for an interim extension. So, 4285 03:06:06.319 --> 03:06:07.976 they are mutually exclusive. 4286 03:06:08.000 --> 03:06:08.295 Yes. 4287 03:06:08.319 --> 03:06:11.319 Okay. Councelor Min, 4288 03:06:11.439 --> 03:06:14.056 obviously we've talked about the quantum 4289 03:06:14.080 --> 03:06:17.080 in this recommendation, but the 4290 03:06:18.000 --> 03:06:21.000 reality is this is looking at over a 4291 03:06:21.120 --> 03:06:24.120 4-year span and when we look at 4292 03:06:24.720 --> 03:06:26.696 recruitment into the local government 4293 03:06:26.720 --> 03:06:28.776 sector, this really broadens our talent 4294 03:06:28.800 --> 03:06:31.800 pool. , one of the challenges in local 4295 03:06:32.800 --> 03:06:35.800 government is that often we're competing 4296 03:06:36.560 --> 03:06:39.096 with other councils for the same limited 4297 03:06:39.120 --> 03:06:41.976 sort of pool of of human resources, same 4298 03:06:42.000 --> 03:06:44.056 limited pool of staff. And this 4299 03:06:44.080 --> 03:06:46.216 really allows us to broaden that 4300 03:06:46.240 --> 03:06:48.295 potential reach in terms of recruitment 4301 03:06:48.319 --> 03:06:50.936 services both in terms of temporary and 4302 03:06:50.960 --> 03:06:52.776 short-term placements, but also in terms 4303 03:06:52.800 --> 03:06:55.800 of specialized areas of expertise 4304 03:06:56.560 --> 03:06:59.255 where we may need a more extensive 4305 03:06:59.279 --> 03:07:01.415 search than putting something up in 4306 03:07:01.439 --> 03:07:03.096 standard job listing panels like 4307 03:07:03.120 --> 03:07:04.856 LinkedIn or job listing sites like 4308 03:07:04.880 --> 03:07:07.880 LinkedIn or seek. So you know this makes 4309 03:07:08.160 --> 03:07:11.160 sense in the context of what is it is 4310 03:07:11.200 --> 03:07:14.200 required for. Thank you. Any other 4311 03:07:15.040 --> 03:07:18.040 comments? Any counselors? Thank you. 4312 03:07:18.240 --> 03:07:20.696 Close. Councelor Halliday 4313 03:07:20.720 --> 03:07:22.295 thank you, Acting May. I'd just like 4314 03:07:22.319 --> 03:07:24.856 to close on this one. Um as others 4315 03:07:24.880 --> 03:07:26.375 have identified here, this is a 4316 03:07:26.399 --> 03:07:29.399 substantial contract um over the four 4317 03:07:29.520 --> 03:07:31.176 the three or four years. This 4318 03:07:31.200 --> 03:07:33.096 represents, you know, um significant 4319 03:07:33.120 --> 03:07:36.120 spending each year um on casual um and 4320 03:07:37.840 --> 03:07:40.840 short-term staff. Um these are staff who 4321 03:07:41.359 --> 03:07:44.359 are um filling in vacancies um at 4322 03:07:44.720 --> 03:07:47.720 short-term or are um allowing us to 4323 03:07:48.560 --> 03:07:51.560 support um summer demand across um 4324 03:07:53.520 --> 03:07:56.520 the council and areas like festivals and 4325 03:07:56.880 --> 03:07:58.616 other areas where we would not normally 4326 03:07:58.640 --> 03:08:01.640 engage um full-term staff. Um so this is 4327 03:08:02.319 --> 03:08:04.455 appropriate. It also does not represent 4328 03:08:04.479 --> 03:08:07.479 a it's a it's a minor part of our 4329 03:08:07.840 --> 03:08:09.736 overall staffing for council. It's I 4330 03:08:09.760 --> 03:08:12.056 think it's less than 10% here of overall 4331 03:08:12.080 --> 03:08:13.896 staffing. So I'm comfortable with this 4332 03:08:13.920 --> 03:08:16.920 level of spending um by council on what 4333 03:08:17.200 --> 03:08:18.776 are effectively contract staff as 4334 03:08:18.800 --> 03:08:21.335 opposed to our full- employees. Um 4335 03:08:21.359 --> 03:08:24.359 and thus I um encourage other counselors 4336 03:08:24.720 --> 03:08:26.295 to support this. 4337 03:08:26.319 --> 03:08:28.295 Thank you councelor Hallidayiday. I will 4338 03:08:28.319 --> 03:08:31.319 put that to the vote. All those in favor 4339 03:08:32.960 --> 03:08:35.960 that is carried unanimously. Thank you. 4340 03:08:37.040 --> 03:08:40.040 The next item is 13.2 proposed 4341 03:08:40.399 --> 03:08:43.335 discontinuence and sale a part union 4342 03:08:43.359 --> 03:08:46.359 place that is adjoining 154 to 158 Bank 4343 03:08:46.640 --> 03:08:49.640 Street in South Melbourne. 4344 03:08:49.680 --> 03:08:51.415 Councilors, are there any questions of 4345 03:08:51.439 --> 03:08:53.816 the officers in relation to this? Yes, 4346 03:08:53.840 --> 03:08:56.840 councelor Jay. 4347 03:08:56.960 --> 03:08:59.255 the officers already have these 4348 03:08:59.279 --> 03:09:02.279 questions. So in the um process of just 4349 03:09:02.399 --> 03:09:03.816 speeding this up, I'm just going to read 4350 03:09:03.840 --> 03:09:06.840 them all out. Um I have four questions. 4351 03:09:06.960 --> 03:09:09.816 13.2, what is the proposed sale 4352 03:09:09.840 --> 03:09:12.375 amount? question B, where will the 4353 03:09:12.399 --> 03:09:14.375 money go and what will it be used for? 4354 03:09:14.399 --> 03:09:16.856 Question C, how many laneways have we 4355 03:09:16.880 --> 03:09:19.656 sold in South Melbourne in the past um 4356 03:09:19.680 --> 03:09:21.576 year to four years, whatever you can get 4357 03:09:21.600 --> 03:09:24.600 the information on. Thank you. 4358 03:09:27.279 --> 03:09:28.616 Thank you, councelor Jay, for the 4359 03:09:28.640 --> 03:09:30.375 question through you, mayor. Um, 4360 03:09:30.399 --> 03:09:32.616 evaluation completed in April of this 4361 03:09:32.640 --> 03:09:35.640 year suggests a sale price of $184,000 4362 03:09:36.319 --> 03:09:39.319 for this particular parcel of land um in 4363 03:09:39.359 --> 03:09:41.736 question and dependent on Thomanning, a 4364 03:09:41.760 --> 03:09:44.455 revised valuation may be required which 4365 03:09:44.479 --> 03:09:47.479 may impact this amount. Um, in relation 4366 03:09:47.520 --> 03:09:49.976 to where the money will be used, 4367 03:09:50.000 --> 03:09:52.536 funds received for the sale of land are 4368 03:09:52.560 --> 03:09:55.335 allocated to council strategic reserves 4369 03:09:55.359 --> 03:09:57.176 for property and used for the 4370 03:09:57.200 --> 03:09:58.856 acquisition of new land and the 4371 03:09:58.880 --> 03:10:00.536 development of existing council 4372 03:10:00.560 --> 03:10:03.415 property. Um, in the preceding 12-month 4373 03:10:03.439 --> 03:10:05.496 period, this is the only discontinuence 4374 03:10:05.520 --> 03:10:07.736 and sale for the South Melbourne area 4375 03:10:07.760 --> 03:10:09.656 with an expected value of around 4376 03:10:09.680 --> 03:10:11.736 $184,000. 4377 03:10:11.760 --> 03:10:13.576 And in addition to this proposed 4378 03:10:13.600 --> 03:10:16.600 discontinuence and sale, a resolution in 4379 03:10:16.640 --> 03:10:19.096 October of 2023 endorsed the 4380 03:10:19.120 --> 03:10:21.816 discontinuence and and sale of laneways 4381 03:10:21.840 --> 03:10:24.295 of Clarendon Street in South Melbourne, 4382 03:10:24.319 --> 03:10:27.319 which sold for around $700,000. 4383 03:10:27.680 --> 03:10:29.896 Thus, , in the past four years, we've 4384 03:10:29.920 --> 03:10:32.295 had two land sales with an esThomannated 4385 03:10:32.319 --> 03:10:34.936 value of $884,000 4386 03:10:34.960 --> 03:10:37.415 in South Melbourne. 4387 03:10:37.439 --> 03:10:39.096 Thank you, Mickey. 4388 03:10:39.120 --> 03:10:40.696 Thank you. are there any other 4389 03:10:40.720 --> 03:10:43.720 questions? 4390 03:10:44.319 --> 03:10:45.816 Councilors, we have a an office 4391 03:10:45.840 --> 03:10:47.976 recommend offic's recommendation in 4392 03:10:48.000 --> 03:10:51.000 front of us. Would someone like to move? 4393 03:10:51.279 --> 03:10:54.279 Move councelor Jay and councelor Min to 4394 03:10:55.359 --> 03:10:58.359 second. Councelor Jay, 4395 03:10:59.520 --> 03:11:02.136 I love more money for this council and I 4396 03:11:02.160 --> 03:11:04.616 love selling our unused laneways. So if 4397 03:11:04.640 --> 03:11:07.096 anyone's listening, make us an offer. 4398 03:11:07.120 --> 03:11:10.120 Um, I do commend this Vicki, especially 4399 03:11:10.640 --> 03:11:12.536 in a community where we always need 4400 03:11:12.560 --> 03:11:15.560 money. We always need um uplift to our 4401 03:11:16.319 --> 03:11:18.295 buildings. So, this is a great revenue 4402 03:11:18.319 --> 03:11:21.319 stream and a use of unused land. So, um 4403 03:11:21.840 --> 03:11:24.840 I I absolutely support this. 4404 03:11:25.120 --> 03:11:26.856 Councelor Min, 4405 03:11:26.880 --> 03:11:29.880 Councelor Jay spoke so eloquently on 4406 03:11:30.720 --> 03:11:32.295 this item that I have nothing further to 4407 03:11:32.319 --> 03:11:33.096 say. 4408 03:11:33.120 --> 03:11:35.576 I agree. Thank you, councilors. We'll 4409 03:11:35.600 --> 03:11:37.976 put that to the vote now. All those in 4410 03:11:38.000 --> 03:11:40.216 favor. 4411 03:11:40.240 --> 03:11:43.240 That is unanimous. Thank you. 4412 03:11:50.000 --> 03:11:53.000 Well, I think it's this one here. That's 4413 03:11:54.640 --> 03:11:57.640 this next one. 4414 03:12:00.399 --> 03:12:02.616 Shall we do it now? 4415 03:12:02.640 --> 03:12:05.640 All right. councilors I'm looking 4416 03:12:07.040 --> 03:12:10.040 to extend for a further half an hour. We 4417 03:12:10.319 --> 03:12:12.776 might not need it but it is prudent for 4418 03:12:12.800 --> 03:12:15.800 us to plan for that. 4419 03:12:17.040 --> 03:12:20.040 Yep. So happy to put a procedural motion 4420 03:12:20.080 --> 03:12:22.616 that we extend the meeting for a further 4421 03:12:22.640 --> 03:12:25.640 30 minutes in understanding that we 4422 03:12:25.840 --> 03:12:27.255 want to declare that in the public 4423 03:12:27.279 --> 03:12:30.136 council meeting as we move into the 4424 03:12:30.160 --> 03:12:31.976 confidential item this evening. 4425 03:12:32.000 --> 03:12:33.976 Correct. Whoever's second for that. 4426 03:12:34.000 --> 03:12:36.776 Councelor Halliday 4427 03:12:36.800 --> 03:12:39.800 Put it to the vote. All those in favor. 4428 03:12:40.080 --> 03:12:43.080 That's unanimous. Thank you. 4429 03:12:48.960 --> 03:12:51.960 Okay. 4430 03:12:53.439 --> 03:12:54.295 Reports. 4431 03:12:54.319 --> 03:12:57.319 Yeah. So the next item is reports by 4432 03:12:58.240 --> 03:13:00.455 councelor delegates. councilors, do 4433 03:13:00.479 --> 03:13:01.976 we have any reports from councelor 4434 03:13:02.000 --> 03:13:05.000 delegates? 4435 03:13:05.120 --> 03:13:08.120 Thank you. Thank you. Councilors, do any 4436 03:13:08.640 --> 03:13:11.640 have any items of urgent business? 4437 03:13:13.520 --> 03:13:15.656 Thank you. 4438 03:13:15.680 --> 03:13:17.656 Confidential matters. Councilors, we 4439 03:13:17.680 --> 03:13:19.896 have one confidential report listed in 4440 03:13:19.920 --> 03:13:22.920 the agenda being 17.1 update on the 4441 03:13:23.359 --> 03:13:25.896 implementation of the V village model. 4442 03:13:25.920 --> 03:13:28.295 Therefore, I now call on a councelor to 4443 03:13:28.319 --> 03:13:29.816 move that the meeting be closed to 4444 03:13:29.840 --> 03:13:32.056 members of the public to consider the 4445 03:13:32.080 --> 03:13:35.080 confidential items. A mover, councelor 4446 03:13:35.200 --> 03:13:36.776 Toman, 4447 03:13:36.800 --> 03:13:39.800 seconder, councelor J. 4448 03:13:39.840 --> 03:13:41.976 Thank you. I now put the motion to a 4449 03:13:42.000 --> 03:13:45.000 vote. The motion is carried unanimously. 4450 03:13:45.920 --> 03:13:48.920 Thank you very much. 4451 03:13:50.960 --> 03:13:52.856 Councilors will now conclude the public 4452 03:13:52.880 --> 03:13:54.536 part of the meeting. I advise members of 4453 03:13:54.560 --> 03:13:57.560 the public that there is no further open 4454 03:13:57.680 --> 03:13:59.576 items to be discussed which will be the 4455 03:13:59.600 --> 03:14:01.255 conclusion of the public meeting. Thank 4456 03:14:01.279 --> 03:14:04.279 you for us joining us tonight.