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Hi everybody. We are going to get

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started. So, welcome everyone to

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tonight's meeting of the Port Phillip

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City Council.

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I get Oh, I am on.

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Council respectfully acknowledges the

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traditional owners and custodians.

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Is there a welcome everyone to tonight's

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meeting?

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We might pause and sort that out. I'll

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continue and see how we go. Acknowledges

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the traditional owners and custodians.

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Is that better? Of the Kulin Nation.

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We acknowledge their legacy and

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spiritual connection to the land and

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waterways across the city of Port

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Phillip and pay our heartfelt respect to

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the Elders past, present, and emerging.

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Thank you, Kylie this meeting is

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being conducted in a hybrid style and

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streamed via council's webcast page and

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Facebook live. If we have any tech

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difficulties, we will take a little

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break and come back hopefully having

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them resolved. I remind attendees that

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 any member of the public

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addressing council must extend due

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courtesy and respect to council and the

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processes under which it works and

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operates, must take direction from the

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chair whenever called on to do so. And

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all speakers, including counselors, must

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remain respectful, and no statements or

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questions must not be defamatory,

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offensive, or objectionable, aimed at

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embarrassing a counselor, member of

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council or staff, or relate to a matter

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outside of our powers.

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I won't go through the rest of it

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because it's a very small I think

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there's mostly officers in the  

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room today and hopefully you will abide

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by all the rules if you do have

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anything you wanted to hand out tonight,

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the governance team, other people to

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give it to and also to look to them in

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case of an emergency. Councilors, we

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have no apologies for tonight. So we'll

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move on to minutes of the previous

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meeting.

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We have the minutes of the council

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meeting held on the 24th of September

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2025 and the special meeting held on the

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8th of October 2025 that have been

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circulated. Are there any questions?

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There being none, can I have a mover and

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a second? Councelor Tomman to move and

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councilor Mears to second. Let's put that to

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the vote. All those in favour that is

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unanimous.

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Any

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declarations of conflicts of interest in

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a matter being discussed tonight? CEO.

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Yeah, through you, Mayor. Thank you. 

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I've declared a conflict of interest in

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relation to item number 11.2,

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presentation of the annual report of the

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Palais Theatre this relates to 

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my wife working in the same industry of

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as live nation as with one of their

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competitors.  I do note that this

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report is a public report doesn't

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contain any commercially sensitive

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material  and I haven't been involved

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in its preparation or any discussion

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around it. But as an abundance of

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caution or just noted that tonight

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I'm taking there's no any other last

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minute declarations of conflicts of

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interest. We are going to just before we

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get to public question time and

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submissions  take a moment to

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acknowledge our outgoing general

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manager of operations and infrastructure

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Lachlan Johnson

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after eight long years, short years,

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it's gone so quickly Lachlan is

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moving on to I'm not going to say

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greener pastures, just other pastures.

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And the CEO would like to take a

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moment to say a few words.

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Thank you and through you mayor. I'd

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like to take a moment to acknowledge

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that this is Lachlan's

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 final meeting tonight after eight

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years of dedicated service to the city

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of Port Phillip. Lachlan joined us in

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2017 as manager of project services. I

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was part of his recruitment process

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 and quickly made his mark

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transforming our project delivery team

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to be a sector leader. There's still

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people who come to us looking at some of

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the work that Lachlan and his team did

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in establishing that that function. He

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led the delivery of some iconic projects

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for our city, including Kirrip Park next

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to South Melbourne Primary School and

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the reconstruction of the South

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Melbourne Life Saving Club. I'm sure

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he'll have great pleasure in driving his

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children past those sites in the future

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and saying, "Look what I built." 

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since 2019, he's had se he's held

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several senior roles across operations,

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waste, and project delivery. And in

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2023, was appointed as general manager

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operations and infrastructure.

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 throughout his time here, Lachlan has

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played a key role in many major

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initiatives from the customer experience

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program where he was part of the

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sponsorship group, the new pocket park

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outside the Palais Theatre and Luna Park

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 to transforming how we deliver waste

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and maintenance services and I think

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that is a  major accomplishment that

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again we get other councils coming and

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looking at the work that Lachlan led in

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that space and that he led from start to

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finish.

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Lachlan's embodied all of our

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organizational values. I'd like to

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particularly acknowledge though  a

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couple that he's demonstrated

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taking accountability  courage and

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integrity and putting the community

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first on behalf of council I'd like

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to thank you for your service and wish

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you all the best for your future

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endeavors.

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Now, we're now going to move on to item

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four, which is public question time and

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submissions.

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Under the governance rules, public

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questions can only be asked about items

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that are not on the agenda. , and

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those public questions may be referred

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to or will be referred to an officer for

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a response. If you're making   a

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submission on one of the agenda items

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tonight, a counselor may choose to take

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up your question. So in person we are

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going to start with Lisa Milbour. Hi

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Lisa. If you could come and take your

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seat there and you might have to

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press the button and make sure the red

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light is on and if you could state your

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name and suburb and then you will have

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two minutes to speak. Thank you.

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Just get

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We found it.

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Sorry.

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No, that's all right.

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Okay. I have a copy if you would like to

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read from the paper copy. Would that be

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easier? No,

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I'm right.

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Got it. Okay, great. Name and suburb.

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And then you've got two minutes.

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Hello everybody my name is Lisa

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Milbour and I  live in Balaclava. 

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my subject is the trees in the question

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is about the trees in Balaclava, the

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condition of them. Um I've lived in

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Balaclava since 19 well actually lived

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in Goulay Street since 1995

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and we've had um during my time there

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we've had multiple tree plantings and we

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always seem to have a problem with them.

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At the moment the trees have got a black

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[ __ ] mould on them which is causing some

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of the trees to be very stressed. 

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it's very unsightly and so I wanted to

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know  basically whether we're going to

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replace all of the trees. It looks like

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randomly there's been some trees

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replaced. Just want to know if we're

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going to replace the trees or fix the

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trees. Um if the um if what sort of

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priority is being given to addressing

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the issue of those trees cuz they're

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very unsightly and they've been this way

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for a long time now. And I'm concerned

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with um ongoing maintenance for the

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trees cuz there's very little water um

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you know now around rainfall and so

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there needs to be whatever's going to be

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replacing them or whatever the fix is we

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need to be considering the watering

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system because otherwise they're just

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going to continue to be stressed and

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then susceptible to um diseases and then

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we're replacing them again. I feel like

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we're spending a lot of money on these

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trees and for not much output. Um so

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basically I I know we've got the 

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urban forest strategy where there's with

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the greening and hoping that um there's

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some priority in there for Goulay Street

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for those trees.

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Okay. So we're going to go to Mark

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Thompson to respond.

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Oh, should I jump back? Thank you.

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through you mayor and thank you Lisa for

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your question. A cursory inspection of

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Goulay Street Balaclava has identified a

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number of trees that have been severely

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impacted by Sudi mold and our internal

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assessment show that many trees require

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action. Council arberous will complete a

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thorough inspection of the trees in Gul

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Street to identify any necessary works.

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These works which may include a

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treatment program for the SUI mold or

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removal and replacement of unviable

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trees or pruning to gain the appropriate

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clearances over the footpath and roadway

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where necessary.

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These will be scheduled um where

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appropriate and the works will be

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carried out as soon as possible. Within

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our assessment for any replacement

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trees, we'll consider the suitability of

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the current species in achieving our

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greening objectives and will align with

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the greening balaclava and san kilda

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east urban forest precinct plan.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Um then I'm also going to call on job

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John Webster where where there you are

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John. If you could take your seat and

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name and suburb and then you've got two

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minutes.

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John Webster says secular branch of the

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Liberal Party. Given that the city of

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Melbourne has introduced community

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safety officers to patrol the streets

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and the record crime rates in Victoria

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at the moment, does the city of Port

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Phillip have any plans to introduce

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safety offices of its own in its crime

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hotspots?

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Thank you. Now this is who would I go to

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that you Brian T or maybe have to take

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it on notice

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or CEO

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through you may um council already has a

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range of what we call  community

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amenity or safety and amenity officers u

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part of local laws that patrols

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um the streets. We've expanded that

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network of officers  in recent years.

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Um we are looking at what the city of

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Melbourne has done. I think in part it's

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a renaming of their local laws offices

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and maybe an extension of the work that

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they do. Um so we are looking at into

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that and  as part of our community

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safety pan we will be reporting back to

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council um as part of the finalization

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of that plan on learnings from other

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places and  if there's any anything

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for us to consider in terms of changing

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but um we have had a an extensive

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network of officers supporting community

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safety  and local laws enforcement um

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for an extended period of time and we

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have recently increased that crew as

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well.

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Actually patrolling the streets John you

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can't ask any more questions. Sorry

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you're late. say thank you though for

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your question. Appreciate it. Okay,

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we're going to call on  Jenny Roer

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speaking to item 6.1 which is the

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petition the bus route 606 service

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frequency from Elton to Port Melbourne.

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Hi Jenny, you know the drill.

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Um Jenny Roer from St Kilda. Um, every

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day countless residents and students

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across the city of Port Phillip are left

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waiting or worse stranded because of the

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inadequate service frequency and

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reliability of bus route 606. For many

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of us, school children, elderly

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residents, essential workers and

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families, this bus route is not a

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luxury, it's a lifeline. Route 606

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connects station to Fisherman Ben

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linking key communities including

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Elwood, Stud, Middle Park, Albert Park,

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and Port Melbourne. But right now, it is

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failing the people who rely on it most.

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During peak times, buses are routinely

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overcrowded, delayed, or simply not

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showing up. Children are being left at

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bus stops. Elderly residents are waiting

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in uncertainty. And the local community

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are missing work or vital appointments,

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vital appointments. It's not acceptable.

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Tonight, I'm here on behalf of the 733

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people who have signed this petition,

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calling on the city of Port Phillip to

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support our request to the Victorian

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state government for urgent action. We

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are asking for increased frequency of

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bus route 606, particularly during

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school and community commuter peak

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times, improved reliability so buses

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arrive when they're meant to, and safe,

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accessible public transport for

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everyone. No child should be left

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behind. No elderly person should be left

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waiting. Reliable public transport isn't

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just about convenience. It's about

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equity, safety, and community

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well-being. Route 606 connects our

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neighborhoods. Let's make sure it

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connects our people, too. Thank you.

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Thank you, Jenny.

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, speaking to item 9.1 is the the

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contract award for curbside collection

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services. Michael, we haven't seen you

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in a while. if you'd like to take your

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seat and it's your two minutes.

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 Michael Barrett, Port Melbourne. 

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through you, mayor. A question to the

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general manager operations and

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infrastructure regarding the city of

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Port Phillip Waste Disposal Contract

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RFT0348,

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otherwise known as the gift that keeps

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on giving. , general manager, ,

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first of all, I want to, , I didn't

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realize this was your last, , meeting.

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, so, , congratulations on wherever

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you're going to next. Thank you for your

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work. Um, I'm glad to see that you're

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sitting down because you may be shocked

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with what I'm about to say. Um,

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particularly in light of my incessant

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questioning and persistent criticism of

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council throughout 2023 24 in the

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awarding and management of the original

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contract to citywide in 2023.  I

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wanted to congratulate you and your team

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on the rigorous re-examination and

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reworking of the original of the

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internal business processes in and

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around the new tender process for

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contract RFT0348.

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This is a vast improvement on the

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council's internal business processes in

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the preparation and tendering of this

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contract compared to 2023.

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Um, just as an aside for your

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information, as you know, I followed

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this contract all the way through up to

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the AC. , their view on citywide was

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that was a business that probably should

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have never been formed and was destined

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to fail at some point. After re

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reviewing the new tender document and

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supporting processes, my only

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observation is that there perhaps needed

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to be some additional clarity around

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protection of the rate payers interests

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and the ongoing management of the

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contract. And for this reason, um, my

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only question was really in regard to

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the ongoing waste service charges to

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residents. According to the 10-year

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financial plan and 202526 budget, a

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budget of 16.9 million has been

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allocated. This budget line sits budget

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line item sits outside of the rate cap.

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Given the flat cost amount to rate

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payers of contract RFT0348

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over the proposed 4-year initial period,

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can you provide some clarity on waste

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disposal charges to residents beyond the

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initial FY2526

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budget amount of 16.9 million?

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Okay, Michael, because it's submissions,

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a councelor may choose to take up that

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question when we get to the item.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And thank you for your feedback in that

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regard. We do appreciate it. Um, okay.

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We're going  one more person online um

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also com  making a submission to item

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10.1 which oh no sorry it's item 10.1

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which is the open space maintenance

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contract. Um so Adrien Adrien King are

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you there?

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Oh no sorry it's item 10.1 which is the

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open space maintenance contract.

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Adrian just hold on a minute we're

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having a few are you there?

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Difficulties. Is someone got their teams

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open?

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10.1 which is the open space maintenance

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contract.

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out there in the audience, if you've got

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anything on there, could you mute your

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laptop?

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Someone got their

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Somebody's got it.

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Out there in the audience, if you've got

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Okay, I'm just going to take a moment

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because obviously there is a there is a

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tech. So, Adrian, we will come to you in

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just a moment.

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Can Does anybody in the audience have

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your computers on and not on mute? Could

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be me.

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Okay, it's Is it working now without

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feedback?

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Okay,

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we will resume.

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Um, sorry about that. Adrian, are you

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there? Feedback.

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Yes, I am.

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Okay, Adrian, you've got, if you could

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say your name and suburb, and you've got

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two minutes.

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We will resume.

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Thank you, Adrian. Adrian Middle Park.

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Um, you have two questions.  the first

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question is very much

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Adrian. Do you think it's on your Sorry,

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Adrian.

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Yeah.

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You've got the feedback at your end.

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 the first question is Adrian. Sorry

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Adrian.

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Adrian, I'm just cut you off cuz I think

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you've got feedback on your computer

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somehow. You're probably watching.

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You're on your phone, but you're also

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watching the meeting. I'm not quite

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sure. Can you

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It's different to normal. Maybe we can

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maybe get one of our team to ring Adrian

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and work out what's going on and then

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we'll come back to you in a minute. So

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Adrian, we're going to get one of our

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team to call you to work out what the

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tech difficulty is and we will just move

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on to the next item cuz we can't

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actually hear what you're saying.

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Okay.

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Okay. Is that better?

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Oh, that's so much better. Yes.

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All right. Okay. There is I think that

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was me my end.

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Great. Go ahead. That's fantastic.

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Okay. Sure. Adrien King, Middle Park.

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Um, two questions. The first question

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very much off the back of the history of

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the citywide contract and waste

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management. , I will say in advance

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that I'm delighted to see that the

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winning tenders for open space and trees

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 is someone other than Citywide. Um,

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question number one. Could you please

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explain why the scoring stroke rating

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for each company that tendered is not

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contained in tonight's council meeting

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papers?

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Um a review of prior council meeting

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papers does lay out the tender scores

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for each company and in particular what

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scores were given to the winning firm

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green by nature and secondly citywide

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and what position did citywide come

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amongst the six firms that tended.

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Second question relates to personal

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relationships. Could you please

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articulate the extent namely the volume,

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frequency and recency of LinkedIn

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interactions between the council CEO and

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the winning company Green by Nature over

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the last four years. Thank you.

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Okay, a councelor may choose to take

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those questions up when we reach that

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item.

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Councilors, we've reached councelor

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question time. So councils, do you have

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any questions that are not related to

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any of the items? I know we have many

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questions about the items tonight, but

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not related. Councelor Tamman.

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Yes, the  this is a question about 

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trees that are removed in streets. So

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I'm just um there are two massive trees

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in Rob Street that are going to be

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removed  with a sign on the trees. So

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I'm just I had at least a dozen

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residents who contacted me about those

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trees  because they say we want to

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keep the trees etc. So what is the apart

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from putting a sign on the tree? Um is

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there anything else we do or we could do

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to alert  closed residents close by

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residents so you know they don't ring

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the board council say you know we want

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to keep the tree what are you doing so I

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don't know what's the process and if you

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know can you take that question

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so I just triggered by the other

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question so

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thank you councelor through you mayor

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the tree removal process is a is what is

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contained in them that sign and there's

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a link to our council website which

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explains how residents can um object to

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tree removals. In the particular of

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Broadbe Street, our arborists have

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already met with several um residents of

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the street and had very positive

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feedback after they explained the

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structural integrity of the two trees

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which is  due for removement. If we go

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ahead and and um trim the trees and

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remove the limbs, there'll be nothing

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left for the trees and they'll be

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structurally unsound. Hence why the

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movement. But any other council, any

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other residents can be referred to our

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team and we're happy to respond with

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their requests.

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Thank you. Followup followup question is

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it that we've met them since they've

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sort of complained. So is there a

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process where you know we can talk to

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them before they actually contact the

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world counselor?

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Yep. through through you may that the

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actual notice on the tree has a barcode

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on it which allow which links directly

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to our website which goes through our

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appeals process for tree removals.

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So there is present thank you  council

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min.

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Yeah thank you.  the state government

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has finally released the fisherman's

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bend integrated transport plan.  that

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transport plan includes three horizons

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including one deemed immediate and two

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others deemed midterm and long-term. Do

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we as a council have any indication

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around the timing of each of those

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horizons and what the triggers are as we

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go from one horizon to the next?

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Brian T.

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 thank you and and through you may 

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yes the um  fisherman's bend

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integrated transport plan was released

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 on the 29th of September 2025. It has

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as you've indicated the three horizons.

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 Horizon 1 does  specify that it is

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an immediate priority and that's focused

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on bus services and active travel 

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improvements. Horizon 2 prioritizes the

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 tram extension and Horizon 3 focuses

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on the new heavy rail tunnel  and

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identifies that it's anticipated to be

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delivered in line with the completion of

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Fisherman's Bend in the 2050s.

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 that is the  only clarificate well

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there is no clarification answer your

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question on the timelines for the

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individual horizons has been provided by

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the state government which is in

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contrast to the previous fisherman's

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bend framework which identified

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timelines for both the train and the

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tram

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any further council

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 thank you mayor um the state

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government has recently introduced a

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regulation requiring a permit for the

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removal of lopping of trees on private

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property Um, I'm wondering how council

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is managing implementation of this new

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rule and informing residents of the

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requirements.

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, Scott, that's you. Oh, sorry. Let me

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Yep.

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Through you, mayor. , yeah. A new

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clause has been introduced to all

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planning schemes on 15th September 2025

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via amendment VC289.

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The new clause requires a planning pimp

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to remove, destroy, or lot by canopy

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tree and residential zones. The controls

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include a range of exemptions which

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we're currently reviewing. The

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provisions also include transitional

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arrangements, meaning they only apply to

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new applications. We are currently in

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the process working with council's

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arburist to interpret interpret the new

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controls and determine how to

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communicate the information to

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residents. This will be through

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information published on our website and

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incorporate into the assessment of new

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plan applications which be likely as

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part of the request for further

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information.

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Any other questions, councilors?

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Okay, we're moving on to six, which is

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petitions, joint letters, and

00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:53.736
deputations. So, we have one petition on

00:23:53.760 --> 00:23:56.216
tonight's agenda, which is 6.1. The

00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:58.456
petition for the bus route 606 service

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frequency from Stonwick to Port

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Melbourne. Councilors, do you have any

00:24:01.840 --> 00:24:03.655
questions of the officers in regards to

00:24:03.679 --> 00:24:06.679
this item?

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If not, we have an officer's

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recommendation. Would someone like to

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move this or something different? I'm

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happy to move an alternate

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recommendation that adds an additional

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item that we request that the mayor

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write to the member for Alberta Park and

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the Minister for Public and Active

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Transport in support of this petition

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advocating for more frequent and

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extended bus services along bus route

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606.

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And do we have a seconder? Thank you,

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Councelor Consol. , councelor Min,

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I was looking at  bus routes across

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Melbourne and there are bus routes more

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frequent in Alam in Wereabby in Tarnit

00:24:45.440 --> 00:24:48.376
in Water Gardens than bus route 606

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which connects Fisherman's Bend Port

00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:52.856
Melbourne Albert Park Middle Park

00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:55.880
Stilder Alwood and Alterwick. This is a

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service that connects not only major

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activity centers but schools, other

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recreational and employment

00:25:03.679 --> 00:25:06.679
opportunities across this route. This is

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a service that as we have heard from our

00:25:08.880 --> 00:25:11.880
community is infrequent, only runs

00:25:12.320 --> 00:25:14.376
hourly on weekends. Growing up in the

00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:15.976
outer suburbs, we had more frequent bus

00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:18.296
services than hourly on weekends and

00:25:18.320 --> 00:25:20.696
only just recently had a bus service on

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on Sundays. This is a service that is

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woefully inadequate, does not meet the

00:25:25.600 --> 00:25:27.496
needs of our community, does not meet

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the needs of our future community. I

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applaud our community and the lead

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petitioner for mobilizing the community

00:25:33.840 --> 00:25:35.576
around this route, getting this bus

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route on the agenda, and this is one

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that needs to form the cornerstone of

00:25:39.600 --> 00:25:42.600
our advocacy. We hear the  state

00:25:42.720 --> 00:25:44.216
government talking about immediate

00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:46.216
priorities for Fisherman's Bend. This

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should be an immediate priority and I

00:25:48.080 --> 00:25:49.816
applaud our community in getting behind

00:25:49.840 --> 00:25:52.216
this route and calling for the services

00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:54.535
that we should expect as one of the most

00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:57.559
dense areas, urban areas of Melbourne. I

00:25:57.840 --> 00:25:59.496
applaud the community. I applaud the

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lead petitioner. Commend this motion to

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this council.

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Thank you.  councelor councelor

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Consol.

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The 606 is a fantastic bus.

00:26:11.440 --> 00:26:13.576
 connects many many assets in our area

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but it's it doesn't show up. It's so

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hard and the amount of students who

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utilize it. I had a story from some

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young students this week where they were

00:26:23.760 --> 00:26:26.535
traveling back from sports class at the

00:26:26.559 --> 00:26:29.096
last period of the day  from Murphy

00:26:29.120 --> 00:26:32.120
Reserve. So Port Melbourne. They go back

00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:35.240
past  Gas Works which is where their

00:26:36.320 --> 00:26:39.320
school is. The bus didn't take on or let

00:26:39.360 --> 00:26:42.216
off anybody for three stops around the

00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:45.240
school and they were they didn't know

00:26:45.679 --> 00:26:47.096
what to do. Some of these kids are

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pretty young. One clever one did call

00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:52.216
PTV and reported the in the issue. So, I

00:26:52.240 --> 00:26:53.655
thought that was quite good of them to

00:26:53.679 --> 00:26:55.816
take it on board some advocacy on their

00:26:55.840 --> 00:26:58.456
own part saying this isn't acceptable.

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Um, I do worry that maybe some of the

00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:02.296
students don't touch on right now and

00:27:02.320 --> 00:27:04.056
maybe that's not informing enough

00:27:04.080 --> 00:27:06.775
statistics about the use, but with the

00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:08.936
change to the amount that that the

00:27:08.960 --> 00:27:10.936
students won't have to pay next year,

00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:13.336
that's not the excuse. We know that the

00:27:13.360 --> 00:27:16.360
wrership is there. So I I am pleased to

00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:18.775
see that this petition has shown how

00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:20.535
much interest there is in it and that

00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:22.616
council will be taking this up as well

00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:24.775
because it is  highly utilized and

00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:27.336
will only be more utilized when it

00:27:27.360 --> 00:27:30.360
operates more regularly.

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Would any other counselor wish to speak

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to motion? Councelor Holidayiday.

00:27:35.520 --> 00:27:37.255
 I had the pleasure of traveling on

00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:39.096
the 606 on the weekend and it did show

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up in both cases. Um  and I second um

00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:47.480
these  the 

00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:51.880
the  sentiments here of the petition.

00:27:52.159 --> 00:27:55.159
Um we need a reliable and frequent

00:27:56.480 --> 00:27:59.480
service here to drive use of use of the

00:28:00.240 --> 00:28:03.240
um this public transport um facility. If

00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:05.496
it's infrequent, if it doesn't show up,

00:28:05.520 --> 00:28:06.616
people aren't going to trust it and

00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:08.135
they're not going to use it. So we need

00:28:08.159 --> 00:28:11.159
to get this right first. Any

00:28:11.679 --> 00:28:14.679
other counselor? Councelor Jay.

00:28:15.600 --> 00:28:17.736
Um, thank you Jenny for the petition.

00:28:17.760 --> 00:28:20.216
It's really important  in a world

00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:22.296
where we're trying to use cars less and

00:28:22.320 --> 00:28:23.976
use active transport and in a world

00:28:24.000 --> 00:28:25.655
where we're building housing and in a

00:28:25.679 --> 00:28:27.895
world where people can't afford cars and

00:28:27.919 --> 00:28:30.856
Ubers and taxis.  the bus and the tram

00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:33.096
is imperative and the train for our

00:28:33.120 --> 00:28:36.120
community and so many people use it. Um

00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:38.616
it's pretty embarrassing that we don't

00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:40.775
have a more connected system. So I'd

00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:42.936
like to think that this is the first

00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:45.416
step forward for connecting our

00:28:45.440 --> 00:28:48.296
community both with trams um and buses

00:28:48.320 --> 00:28:50.856
especially connecting  Port Melbourne

00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:52.936
with St Kilder and this is imperative in

00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:54.936
in in joining our communities together.

00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:57.176
So thank you and the community and we

00:28:57.200 --> 00:28:59.096
will do everything we can to to improve

00:28:59.120 --> 00:29:02.120
this service. Any other counselors or

00:29:03.360 --> 00:29:05.736
councelor M would you like to close?

00:29:05.760 --> 00:29:08.375
There is no link between patronage and

00:29:08.399 --> 00:29:11.176
service frequency. Bus route 582 in Alam

00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:13.336
runs every 20 minutes and has less

00:29:13.360 --> 00:29:16.360
patronage than the 606. The 606 is a

00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:18.375
highly patronized route that does not

00:29:18.399 --> 00:29:20.936
have the frequencies we deserve as a

00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:23.096
city, let alone the activity centers

00:29:23.120 --> 00:29:26.120
that it connects. This is about us

00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:28.296
working in conjunction with the

00:29:28.320 --> 00:29:31.176
community to amplify the advocacy that

00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:33.576
we need in the city of Port Phillip. And

00:29:33.600 --> 00:29:35.736
I applaud the community. We need to keep

00:29:35.760 --> 00:29:38.056
this advocacy going so that we can

00:29:38.080 --> 00:29:41.080
receive the services that we require now

00:29:41.600 --> 00:29:43.416
and into the future. Once again, I

00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:44.856
applaud the community, the lead

00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.096
petitioner for getting behind this. This

00:29:47.120 --> 00:29:48.535
is the start of a journey in our

00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:50.616
advocacy, but this is an important step

00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:53.336
in showing how community and council can

00:29:53.360 --> 00:29:55.096
work together to get what we need for

00:29:55.120 --> 00:29:57.416
the future. I commend the motion and put

00:29:57.440 --> 00:29:58.375
the motion.

00:29:58.399 --> 00:29:59.895
Let's put the motion. All those in

00:29:59.919 --> 00:30:02.856
favour, all those against. That motion is

00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:04.936
carried unanimously.

00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:07.655
We're moving on to 7 to 13, which is our

00:30:07.679 --> 00:30:10.135
presentation of reports.

00:30:10.159 --> 00:30:11.816
We're going to start with 7.1 which is

00:30:11.840 --> 00:30:13.895
the presentation of the CEO report um

00:30:13.919 --> 00:30:16.919
the August 2025 issue 121. So councilors

00:30:18.159 --> 00:30:19.096
do we have any questions for the

00:30:19.120 --> 00:30:22.120
officers? Councelor Timman.

00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:24.936
Yeah, I've got two questions.  the

00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:26.856
echosenter

00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:29.015
 the report it says it's off track and

00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:30.696
I assume it's a mistake because it's

00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:33.720
open.  and then the peer completion it

00:30:35.360 --> 00:30:38.216
says July 28. So I assume that's wrong

00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:39.736
as well.

00:30:39.760 --> 00:30:41.895
We'll go to Brian T.

00:30:41.919 --> 00:30:44.535
 yes, thank you. And I think um my

00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:46.775
colleagues just reminded me um councelor

00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:49.799
that um the the due date was in April 

00:30:51.520 --> 00:30:54.456
for  that report which is why those

00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:57.480
dates are in um are as they are. I can

00:30:58.080 --> 00:31:01.080
confirm that the eco center is opened um

00:31:02.159 --> 00:31:05.159
that um the um and that there a number

00:31:05.679 --> 00:31:07.576
of visitors have already gone through

00:31:07.600 --> 00:31:09.816
the tours and I'd encourage 

00:31:09.840 --> 00:31:11.416
councilors and members of the public to

00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:13.176
take advantage of the opportunity to see

00:31:13.200 --> 00:31:15.895
this excellent building.

00:31:15.919 --> 00:31:17.655
Great. Thank you. And I'm assuming that

00:31:17.679 --> 00:31:19.655
date is just incorrect as well which we

00:31:19.679 --> 00:31:21.255
can correct

00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:24.135
three I can take. So for the sila pier

00:31:24.159 --> 00:31:25.576
thank you for your question councelor

00:31:25.600 --> 00:31:27.816
fan. So, the construction will be

00:31:27.840 --> 00:31:29.655
completed next calendar year. That

00:31:29.679 --> 00:31:31.416
actual date that's reported in the CEO

00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:34.440
report is the end of the  end of the

00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:36.135
project. So, end of the maintenance

00:31:36.159 --> 00:31:37.736
period, the 12-month maintenance period

00:31:37.760 --> 00:31:39.416
that goes after the construction.

00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:41.336
So, it is correct. Okay. Any other

00:31:41.360 --> 00:31:43.736
questions, councilors?

00:31:43.760 --> 00:31:45.576
If not, could I have a mover and a

00:31:45.600 --> 00:31:47.176
seconder? Councelor Holidayiday to move

00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:48.696
councelor Buckingham to second.

00:31:48.720 --> 00:31:51.495
Councelor Holidayiday.

00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:53.655
Councelor Buckingham. Anyone else like

00:31:53.679 --> 00:31:55.655
to speak to it?

00:31:55.679 --> 00:31:57.576
No. Let's then put that to the vote. All

00:31:57.600 --> 00:31:59.655
those in favour, that is carried

00:31:59.679 --> 00:32:02.679
unanimously.

00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:05.495
Now, I know there's a few questions to

00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:07.576
be had here. So, we're moving to 9.1,

00:32:07.600 --> 00:32:10.600
which is the contract award for RFT0348,

00:32:11.440 --> 00:32:12.936
which is the curbside collection

00:32:12.960 --> 00:32:15.416
services. So, councilors, we obviously

00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:18.440
have an offices report. Do we have any

00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:21.176
questions that we'd like answered? So,

00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:23.576
councelor Holidayiday,

00:32:23.600 --> 00:32:26.375
um can I start picking up  Michael's

00:32:26.399 --> 00:32:29.399
question here? Um he asked for clarity

00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:33.000
on the expected waste charge increases

00:32:34.080 --> 00:32:37.080
across the next few years. Um can we

00:32:37.679 --> 00:32:40.679
give him any clarity on those?

00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:42.296
Lachland Johnson.

00:32:42.320 --> 00:32:45.320
 through May, so councelor

00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:47.336
Holidayiday. So I took Michael's

00:32:47.360 --> 00:32:49.015
question as being about what the split

00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.336
was between disposal and collection

00:32:51.360 --> 00:32:53.976
costs and therefore how that would so

00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:56.216
the approximate split between dispos

00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:57.736
because the waste charge covers both

00:32:57.760 --> 00:32:59.495
collecting the bins but also the

00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:01.976
disposal be that disposal to landfill or

00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:05.000
recycling for fogo or comic recycling.

00:33:05.360 --> 00:33:07.816
So the split is approximately

00:33:07.840 --> 00:33:10.840
$5 million for disposal and about $7.5

00:33:12.080 --> 00:33:14.856
 million for collection.  so

00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:16.135
obviously the report that you're

00:33:16.159 --> 00:33:19.015
considering tonight um just relates to

00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:21.895
the collection um and that's got

00:33:21.919 --> 00:33:24.919
approximately a 14%  increase that's

00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:28.296
there. So that 14% increase would relate

00:33:28.320 --> 00:33:31.096
to about 2/3 of the waste charge. So all

00:33:31.120 --> 00:33:33.096
other things being equal um that would

00:33:33.120 --> 00:33:35.176
be the impact of the waste charge as

00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:37.495
outlined in the report. If there's an

00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:40.519
increase in disposal or processing costs

00:33:41.279 --> 00:33:43.816
that would be on top of that. So over

00:33:43.840 --> 00:33:45.176
the last number of years there's been

00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:46.856
significant increases in the landfill

00:33:46.880 --> 00:33:48.696
levy. So if the state government

00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:50.696
increases the landfield levy again which

00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:53.720
is likely um that would further increase

00:33:54.080 --> 00:33:57.080
the waste charge.

00:33:57.120 --> 00:34:00.120
Who would like to deputy mayor mess?

00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:03.640
Thank you Louise. So my question is 

00:34:04.399 --> 00:34:07.399
what procedures safeguards does the city

00:34:07.919 --> 00:34:09.895
of Port Phillip have in place in the

00:34:09.919 --> 00:34:12.919
contract to ensure a regular review 

00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.760
of the $48 million budget and service

00:34:17.119 --> 00:34:19.416
metrics that are being are being

00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:22.440
achieved and adhered to during the

00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:24.855
four-year term of the contract.

00:34:24.879 --> 00:34:27.256
Am I going to Steven Thorp or Simon

00:34:27.280 --> 00:34:28.776
Hill?

00:34:28.800 --> 00:34:30.296
 to me Steven.

00:34:30.320 --> 00:34:33.176
So through you may um so the proposed

00:34:33.200 --> 00:34:35.416
extension to the contract includes a

00:34:35.440 --> 00:34:37.176
comprehensive set of performance

00:34:37.200 --> 00:34:40.200
indicators um to maintain service 

00:34:40.720 --> 00:34:43.016
high standards and service delivery. Um

00:34:43.040 --> 00:34:45.736
these KPIs address critical areas such

00:34:45.760 --> 00:34:48.696
as missed bin collections, correct bin

00:34:48.720 --> 00:34:51.095
placement and timely data and reporting

00:34:51.119 --> 00:34:53.335
from the contractor. performance is

00:34:53.359 --> 00:34:55.655
closely monitored through daily 

00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:57.496
operational meetings between council

00:34:57.520 --> 00:34:59.815
officers and the contractor and

00:34:59.839 --> 00:35:02.616
supported by more formal monthly pardon

00:35:02.640 --> 00:35:05.640
me contract management meetings. Um in

00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:07.575
addition as part of the contract

00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:10.599
extension the infield supervision

00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:13.736
required to oversee operations

00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.760
 is going to be increased. Um the

00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:18.376
payments the contractor are made

00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:20.136
monthly. They're subject to detailed

00:35:20.160 --> 00:35:23.160
review and approval. Um and obviously

00:35:23.200 --> 00:35:25.176
contract expenditure is monitored and

00:35:25.200 --> 00:35:26.616
reported particularly if there are

00:35:26.640 --> 00:35:29.640
variances to budget. Um and this

00:35:31.839 --> 00:35:33.575
reporting occurs internally within

00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:35.095
council through the procurement and

00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:36.696
contract management steering committee

00:35:36.720 --> 00:35:39.496
and executive team as well. Material

00:35:39.520 --> 00:35:41.416
variances to budget will be reported to

00:35:41.440 --> 00:35:43.976
council regularly.

00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:46.136
Do you have a follow-up question or

00:35:46.160 --> 00:35:46.616
you're right

00:35:46.640 --> 00:35:49.640
followup question if if I can.

00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:52.936
Does the option to extend the contract

00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:55.575
require the renegation of renegotiation

00:35:55.599 --> 00:35:58.599
of the contract if it is clear the $48

00:35:59.440 --> 00:36:01.896
million budget is not being achieved

00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:04.776
that is to say it's exceeding the budget

00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:06.456
either through failure of achieving

00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.776
service metrics and or exceeding the

00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:10.696
contract budget.

00:36:10.720 --> 00:36:11.976
Yeah. Thank you.

00:36:12.000 --> 00:36:13.575
Is that going back to you Steven?

00:36:13.599 --> 00:36:16.216
Yes. Yes. Through your mayor. Um so any

00:36:16.240 --> 00:36:18.055
future three-year well the future

00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:19.656
three-year extension is by mutual

00:36:19.680 --> 00:36:21.976
agreement. So any future extension would

00:36:22.000 --> 00:36:23.976
been would need to be agreed. It's not

00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.616
an exclusive right of council in

00:36:26.640 --> 00:36:29.416
considering um whether to extend the

00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:31.815
contract. Obviously council would

00:36:31.839 --> 00:36:33.976
carefully review Cleanaway's performance

00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:37.000
over the contract period. Um in

00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:39.656
exercising extension the CO can only

00:36:39.680 --> 00:36:41.656
operate within council's approved

00:36:41.680 --> 00:36:44.536
budget.  as with all expenditure, if

00:36:44.560 --> 00:36:46.136
the approved budget was likely to be

00:36:46.160 --> 00:36:47.815
exceeded, the approval of the council

00:36:47.839 --> 00:36:50.776
would be required. Um it should also be

00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:52.776
noted the contract extension being

00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:55.575
considered includes mechanisms to

00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:57.496
optimize the curbside collection

00:36:57.520 --> 00:37:00.456
service. Um this is intended over the

00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:02.776
next four years um and in line with

00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:05.800
council's um draft waste management

00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:07.976
strategy that's currently under

00:37:08.000 --> 00:37:10.456
consultation to increase the efficiency

00:37:10.480 --> 00:37:13.480
of um the collection service and make it

00:37:14.320 --> 00:37:15.976
more cost effective to deliver that

00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:17.496
service

00:37:17.520 --> 00:37:20.296
um and make the contract more attractive

00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:22.216
at the next time council decides to go

00:37:22.240 --> 00:37:25.240
to market. Um given this context, it's

00:37:25.359 --> 00:37:26.936
likely council would approach the market

00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.176
ahead of the 4-year extension term to

00:37:29.200 --> 00:37:30.776
realize those savings through a more

00:37:30.800 --> 00:37:32.136
competitive process.

00:37:32.160 --> 00:37:34.456
Thank you. Thank you.

00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:35.976
Who would like to ask the next question?

00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:38.776
Councelor Tomman.

00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:41.800
So um we are currently consulting on a

00:37:42.160 --> 00:37:43.736
west strategy for the city of Port

00:37:43.760 --> 00:37:46.055
Phillip, but we are awarding the waste

00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:48.696
contract potentially tonight. So people

00:37:48.720 --> 00:37:51.720
are asking does it make sense? Um I

00:37:51.839 --> 00:37:53.575
understand that the two topics obviously

00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:56.536
are complimentary but different. Can you

00:37:56.560 --> 00:37:59.560
please explain that we are doing the

00:38:00.640 --> 00:38:03.640
right thing?

00:38:04.640 --> 00:38:06.616
 Simon Hill

00:38:06.640 --> 00:38:07.896
through you may thank you. Thanks for

00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.136
the question. Yeah. While these two

00:38:10.160 --> 00:38:11.896
topics are related they are not

00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:14.296
dependent on each other. The curbside

00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:16.055
collection contract extension has been

00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:17.976
designed to be flexible and accommodate

00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:19.736
whatever outcomes emerge from the

00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:21.976
strategy consultation. If the

00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:24.136
consultation results in no changes to

00:38:24.160 --> 00:38:25.896
council services, the collection

00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:28.456
contract remains appropriate. However,

00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:30.296
if the strategy leads to the roll out of

00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:32.296
new services or changes to existing

00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:34.696
services, the contract can be adjusted

00:38:34.720 --> 00:38:37.176
accordingly. Importantly, council has

00:38:37.200 --> 00:38:39.896
negotiated with cleanway a gain share

00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:41.815
agreement where initiatives to reduce

00:38:41.839 --> 00:38:44.839
cost will see savings be realized by

00:38:45.040 --> 00:38:47.656
both council and cleanway. Thus

00:38:47.680 --> 00:38:49.815
incentivizing council and cleanway to

00:38:49.839 --> 00:38:51.976
identify and implement more efficient

00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:54.536
ways to deliver these services. Thank

00:38:54.560 --> 00:38:56.456
you.

00:38:56.480 --> 00:38:58.776
Followup council to man.

00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:01.736
Yeah. So um as part of consultation I

00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:04.760
think we are consulting about frequency

00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:06.616
and  obviously we've got four

00:39:06.640 --> 00:39:09.640
different types of bins. Um have we some

00:39:11.200 --> 00:39:12.696
people already said that we have decided

00:39:12.720 --> 00:39:14.936
to go for to change the frequency

00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:17.016
including  potentially only collecting

00:39:17.040 --> 00:39:19.016
bins every two weeks. Have we made a

00:39:19.040 --> 00:39:21.016
decision or is it something that will be

00:39:21.040 --> 00:39:23.815
made um through the consultation and

00:39:23.839 --> 00:39:26.776
obviously can the contract be  varied

00:39:26.800 --> 00:39:29.800
to allow changes?

00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:32.136
Simon y through your mayor. Thanks for

00:39:32.160 --> 00:39:34.616
your question councelor. Um no council

00:39:34.640 --> 00:39:36.776
has not committed to move to fortnightly

00:39:36.800 --> 00:39:39.256
collection for general waste but there

00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:41.256
are significant drivers for such such a

00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:43.496
change and many councils have done so or

00:39:43.520 --> 00:39:46.055
are considering the change. Reducing the

00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:47.736
frequency of collection of the landfill

00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:50.216
bin incentivizes residents to use

00:39:50.240 --> 00:39:52.616
recycling streams, thus reducing the

00:39:52.640 --> 00:39:54.216
amount of material that is sent to

00:39:54.240 --> 00:39:56.776
landfill. Council's previous waste

00:39:56.800 --> 00:39:58.696
management strategy did did commit

00:39:58.720 --> 00:40:01.095
council to a transition to fortnightly

00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:03.335
collection, but the implementation was

00:40:03.359 --> 00:40:05.815
delayed. Um council is currently

00:40:05.839 --> 00:40:07.496
considering the new waste management

00:40:07.520 --> 00:40:09.896
strategy. This includes a proposed

00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:12.696
initiative to transition houses, town

00:40:12.720 --> 00:40:14.536
houses, and small-scale apartment

00:40:14.560 --> 00:40:17.016
buildings to a fortnightly collection

00:40:17.040 --> 00:40:20.040
service. A move to Fortnitely would

00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:21.896
likely result in savings that will be

00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:23.335
passed on to residents because it

00:40:23.359 --> 00:40:25.256
requires less truck movements and

00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:27.575
diverts more waste to recycling streams

00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:29.815
that are cheaper to process and then

00:40:29.839 --> 00:40:32.216
send to landfill. As part of the

00:40:32.240 --> 00:40:35.240
procurement negotiation um and alternate

00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:38.136
service assessments, officers sought to

00:40:38.160 --> 00:40:40.376
establish ben benchmarks and estimates

00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:43.095
for cost savings related to collection.

00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.335
So  in summary, um no, we haven't

00:40:45.359 --> 00:40:47.176
committed and it'll be part of the waste

00:40:47.200 --> 00:40:50.200
strategy um um draft we bring back to

00:40:50.240 --> 00:40:53.240
councilors later this year for decision.

00:40:55.359 --> 00:40:56.696
I'm going to I'm going to go to I'm

00:40:56.720 --> 00:40:58.055
going to go to councelor Hardy and come

00:40:58.079 --> 00:41:00.856
back.

00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:01.575
All right. Council

00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:03.416
de man.

00:41:03.440 --> 00:41:06.440
So um so just in the practicality that

00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:09.416
means potentially if you go for

00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:12.295
fortnightly u collections people who

00:41:12.319 --> 00:41:14.936
live in apartments will still have the

00:41:14.960 --> 00:41:16.696
once a week and then people living in

00:41:16.720 --> 00:41:19.720
town and apartment and and men only have

00:41:20.640 --> 00:41:23.095
every two weeks. How does that actually

00:41:23.119 --> 00:41:25.575
technically work in in on the streets if

00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:27.095
that's the case?

00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:29.656
Simon

00:41:29.680 --> 00:41:31.976
Yeah, at this stage the the proposal in

00:41:32.000 --> 00:41:33.815
the draft waste management strategies is

00:41:33.839 --> 00:41:36.456
for is to transition houses, town houses

00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:39.335
and small scale apartments, not larger

00:41:39.359 --> 00:41:41.496
scale apartments. So they would remain

00:41:41.520 --> 00:41:43.256
weekly but again this is only a proposal

00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:44.776
and we'll be bringing that back to

00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:47.016
councilors.

00:41:47.040 --> 00:41:49.256
Okay, who am I going to go to for the

00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:50.776
next question? Councelor Min,

00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:52.696
thank you. We obviously have a

00:41:52.720 --> 00:41:54.376
recommendation before us. What would be

00:41:54.400 --> 00:41:56.456
the impact in terms of service delivery

00:41:56.480 --> 00:41:58.136
if we chose not to endorse the

00:41:58.160 --> 00:42:01.160
recommendation before us this evening?

00:42:01.200 --> 00:42:02.616
 is that you Steven?

00:42:02.640 --> 00:42:05.640
Yeah. Through your mayor. Um so council

00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:07.896
currently has a contract in place until

00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.776
mid 2026 to deliver curbside collection

00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:13.800
services. If council decides not to

00:42:13.839 --> 00:42:16.536
extend the current contract,

00:42:16.560 --> 00:42:19.560
um, , it has until the end of October

00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:21.256
this year, which is the date that

00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:22.776
tenders have agreed to hold their

00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.800
prices, um, to award, , a contract

00:42:26.720 --> 00:42:29.256
under the tenders that were received um,

00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:32.280
earlier this year um, albeit at a higher

00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:34.376
price. So, the price is more expensive

00:42:34.400 --> 00:42:36.536
through the tender process. Another

00:42:36.560 --> 00:42:38.456
option would be for council to go back

00:42:38.480 --> 00:42:41.480
to market with a new , tender process.

00:42:42.160 --> 00:42:43.976
at this point that would be unlikely to

00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:46.456
solicit more tenders and the market

00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:48.216
price has already been established

00:42:48.240 --> 00:42:50.456
through the the tender process that's

00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:52.216
been run which was also higher than the

00:42:52.240 --> 00:42:55.095
price that um is recommended for a

00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:57.656
contract extension. Um and of course

00:42:57.680 --> 00:42:59.496
council could choose to establish an

00:42:59.520 --> 00:43:01.575
in-house team to deliver the service and

00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:03.256
that was discussed in the council

00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:05.815
report. However, that would require some

00:43:05.839 --> 00:43:07.815
upfront capital in the order of $10

00:43:07.839 --> 00:43:10.839
million and take  between 12 to 18

00:43:11.359 --> 00:43:13.976
months to order and receive um trucks to

00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:16.696
make the collections and hire about 60

00:43:16.720 --> 00:43:18.216
people and train them in the collection

00:43:18.240 --> 00:43:21.240
service.

00:43:21.520 --> 00:43:22.216
Follow up.

00:43:22.240 --> 00:43:25.095
 yes, please. So, we have as part of

00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:27.416
the recommendation the recommendation to

00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:29.575
award the extension for a period of four

00:43:29.599 --> 00:43:31.496
years. just want to gain some insight

00:43:31.520 --> 00:43:33.496
into why four years and what the

00:43:33.520 --> 00:43:35.016
consequence would be if we adjusted

00:43:35.040 --> 00:43:37.736
let's say to a shorter time frame

00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:38.216
Steven

00:43:38.240 --> 00:43:41.240
yeah through you may

00:43:41.680 --> 00:43:44.216
so four four years is a is a sort of

00:43:44.240 --> 00:43:46.616
sweet spot in terms of the current

00:43:46.640 --> 00:43:49.095
contract period having been 3 years um

00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:51.496
and 7 years is typically the the term of

00:43:51.520 --> 00:43:53.656
a contract for this sort of service

00:43:53.680 --> 00:43:55.976
because it allows the contractor to

00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:57.815
amatize their capital cost for the

00:43:57.839 --> 00:43:59.976
purchase of the trucks across

00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:02.776
the service life of of the truck. If

00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:05.335
council was to seek a shorter um

00:44:05.359 --> 00:44:07.736
extension period, it's would most likely

00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:09.736
lead to an increase in cost because

00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:11.815
there would be additional costs for the

00:44:11.839 --> 00:44:14.839
plant. Um it would also reduce the time

00:44:14.960 --> 00:44:17.176
frame for efficiencies to be obtained

00:44:17.200 --> 00:44:20.200
through optimizing services. Um so it

00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:22.696
would be possible. I'm sure  cleanway

00:44:22.720 --> 00:44:24.696
would be open to a discussion, but you

00:44:24.720 --> 00:44:27.720
would expect to pay a higher price.

00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.616
Okay. , Council Holidayiday.

00:44:30.640 --> 00:44:33.256
, thank you, Mayor. I think one of the

00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:36.280
concerns in the community is that, you

00:44:36.720 --> 00:44:38.856
know, we're going to see a repeat um of

00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:41.176
the previous contract change over where

00:44:41.200 --> 00:44:44.200
we had a lot of missed bins. Um, so

00:44:46.160 --> 00:44:48.295
noting here that we're not really

00:44:48.319 --> 00:44:51.319
changing vendor at this point through

00:44:51.359 --> 00:44:53.176
this new contract. I'm just wondering

00:44:53.200 --> 00:44:55.416
what sort of um whether we've seen a

00:44:55.440 --> 00:44:57.575
change in performance between citywide

00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:00.599
and clean away and is you know can we

00:45:01.040 --> 00:45:03.575
envisage any scenarios here in this in

00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:06.136
this new contract where we might see a

00:45:06.160 --> 00:45:08.376
drop in performance or performance

00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:11.400
issues from this the current incumbent

00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:13.496
vendor effectively

00:45:13.520 --> 00:45:14.376
Simon

00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:17.016
I might I might add that do we'll share

00:45:17.040 --> 00:45:17.335
it

00:45:17.359 --> 00:45:18.936
Lachlan and then Simon

00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:20.456
um through you mayor thank you councelor

00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.256
Holidayiday for your question Um yes. So

00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:24.856
in exercising the extension there's

00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:26.856
effectively no transition because we've

00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:29.736
already transitioned from  citywide be

00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:32.295
citywide way service being purchased by

00:45:32.319 --> 00:45:34.616
cleanway. In answer to the first part of

00:45:34.640 --> 00:45:36.616
your question yes we have seen some

00:45:36.640 --> 00:45:39.256
service improvements  in the last four

00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:41.016
or three and a half months  since

00:45:41.040 --> 00:45:44.040
cleanway took over. So um there's been

00:45:45.040 --> 00:45:47.736
we've seen reports of miss bins decline.

00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:49.815
And so in the CEO report that council

00:45:49.839 --> 00:45:52.136
just considered the miss bins reported

00:45:52.160 --> 00:45:55.160
for August were nine per 10,000. Um

00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:57.416
we've just worked out that the ones for

00:45:57.440 --> 00:46:00.295
September were also nine. It's trending

00:46:00.319 --> 00:46:03.016
down um towards our target of seven per

00:46:03.040 --> 00:46:06.040
10,000. Um officers indicica investigate

00:46:06.079 --> 00:46:08.055
all reports of miss bins. This is a key

00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:10.055
metric for us in determining how well

00:46:10.079 --> 00:46:13.079
this service is going. Um and so they

00:46:13.200 --> 00:46:15.095
determine officers determine the number

00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:17.016
of contractor at fault missed

00:46:17.040 --> 00:46:19.496
collections. So this excludes situations

00:46:19.520 --> 00:46:21.736
where bins are reported as being missed

00:46:21.760 --> 00:46:23.496
potentially after the trucks driven down

00:46:23.520 --> 00:46:26.520
the street. Um so cleanway's performance

00:46:26.640 --> 00:46:29.016
on this met metric continues to also

00:46:29.040 --> 00:46:31.575
improve when compared with citywide. So

00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:33.335
in August we saw three missed

00:46:33.359 --> 00:46:35.176
collections per 10,000 that were

00:46:35.200 --> 00:46:38.200
attributed to Cleanaway.  and in

00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:41.095
August  and in September that number

00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.095
was on trend as well. So at three which

00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:45.496
is quite low. Performance monitoring is

00:46:45.520 --> 00:46:47.416
a key and continuous activity in

00:46:47.440 --> 00:46:49.256
ensuring that the curbside service is

00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:51.176
meeting expectations and meeting the

00:46:51.200 --> 00:46:53.176
requirements of the contract. Council

00:46:53.200 --> 00:46:55.256
has extensive data on contract

00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:57.656
performance and we address the concerns

00:46:57.680 --> 00:47:00.055
as a priority. Whilst cleanway have

00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.216
maintained some continuity vehicles and

00:47:02.240 --> 00:47:04.776
staff from the previous contractor.

00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:06.456
Cleanway have commenced a process of

00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:09.256
deep integration. For example, all the

00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:11.176
drivers who previously drove for

00:47:11.200 --> 00:47:13.095
citywide who are now employed by

00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:15.016
Cleanway have completed Cleanway's

00:47:15.040 --> 00:47:17.176
driver training program. They've

00:47:17.200 --> 00:47:19.256
completed safety and qual implemented

00:47:19.280 --> 00:47:21.016
new safety and quality practices

00:47:21.040 --> 00:47:23.256
incorporating into Cleanway's broader

00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:26.280
national corporate systems and key staff

00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:28.055
who are now running the contract have

00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:29.815
been sourced both with existing

00:47:29.839 --> 00:47:32.055
knowledge but also from across cleanway

00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:34.055
services. So there's the expertise that

00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:37.016
cleanway bring. Um as with all waste

00:47:37.040 --> 00:47:39.095
collection services, there are scenarios

00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:41.815
that can impact service delivery. Some

00:47:41.839 --> 00:47:43.896
of these are ailarated through cleanway.

00:47:43.920 --> 00:47:46.216
So such as vehicle breakdown or staff

00:47:46.240 --> 00:47:47.896
shortages. Cleanway have a lot of

00:47:47.920 --> 00:47:49.496
contracts. They got a big pool of

00:47:49.520 --> 00:47:52.055
resources that can be drawn upon  in

00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:54.136
the event that those things occur. But

00:47:54.160 --> 00:47:55.976
there are some potential risks that are

00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:58.456
outside council specific control. So for

00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.936
example, we've seen in other councils

00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:03.095
industrial action, disruptions to

00:48:03.119 --> 00:48:05.496
processing facilities and landfill

00:48:05.520 --> 00:48:07.176
disposal having some flowing effects,

00:48:07.200 --> 00:48:09.176
but there those kind of things are

00:48:09.200 --> 00:48:10.536
really outside the control of the

00:48:10.560 --> 00:48:12.616
contractor and really outside council's

00:48:12.640 --> 00:48:15.640
ability to influence.

00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:17.496
Simon, did you want to add anything?

00:48:17.520 --> 00:48:19.176
That's kind of covered a lot of it.

00:48:19.200 --> 00:48:22.200
Okay, councelor Hardy. Yes, just

00:48:22.319 --> 00:48:24.136
following on from the missed bins. 

00:48:24.160 --> 00:48:25.896
what obligations are provided in the

00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:27.736
contract for the collection of missed

00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:30.616
bins?

00:48:30.640 --> 00:48:33.640
 who's that? Simon.

00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:35.656
So

00:48:35.680 --> 00:48:37.496
yeah, the the contract extension that

00:48:37.520 --> 00:48:40.456
has the same  KPIs as the as the

00:48:40.480 --> 00:48:41.896
current contract in regards to miss

00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:44.920
bins. So we have a a a service standard

00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:48.616
of no more than seven u miss bins per

00:48:48.640 --> 00:48:51.640
10,000 collections. And should they miss

00:48:51.680 --> 00:48:54.680
a bin, they're required to return and 

00:48:55.040 --> 00:48:58.040
empty that bin within two business days.

00:49:00.720 --> 00:49:03.720
Great. Um, councelor Buckingham,

00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:05.896
sorry, that may be Sorry, that's one

00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:07.976
business day. 24 hours. Sorry.

00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:09.416
Okay, that's pretty good. Okay,

00:49:09.440 --> 00:49:12.440
councelor Buckingham,

00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:16.376
the requirement to provide every

00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:19.400
household with a glass bin.

00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:23.000
How has that affected this process and

00:49:23.520 --> 00:49:26.520
are we obliged to provide everyone with

00:49:27.200 --> 00:49:29.256
a glass bin and how will that work

00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:31.575
particularly in narrow streets in

00:49:31.599 --> 00:49:34.599
Balaclava and other suburbs?

00:49:35.119 --> 00:49:36.535
Lachlan

00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:39.559
through you mayor.  so due to the

00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:42.535
circular economy so the waste reduction

00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:44.216
and recycling act so it's a state

00:49:44.240 --> 00:49:46.616
government act that passed parliament in

00:49:46.640 --> 00:49:49.640
2021 all councils including ours um have

00:49:50.720 --> 00:49:52.696
to provide everyone who gets a council

00:49:52.720 --> 00:49:55.720
recycling service with a glass service.

00:49:55.920 --> 00:49:57.656
Um this will mean that most properties

00:49:57.680 --> 00:49:59.256
in the city of Port Philip will get a

00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:01.896
glass bin. um there's opportunity for

00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:04.376
exceptions and so we're waiting to see

00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:06.535
the final service standards which the

00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:07.976
state government which will release

00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:10.776
which will translate the act into what

00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:12.856
compliance actually looks like. So we're

00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:14.216
waiting for those standards to be

00:50:14.240 --> 00:50:16.535
released before we can determine exactly

00:50:16.559 --> 00:50:19.095
what the the service will look like. As

00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:21.095
part of the consultation for the draft

00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:22.776
waste management strategy which Simon

00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:25.095
spoke about before, we're asking the

00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:26.535
community questions about what they

00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:28.856
would like to see. We've heard from the

00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:31.880
community that um  accommodating a

00:50:32.480 --> 00:50:34.696
fourth bin  in smaller property,

00:50:34.720 --> 00:50:36.535
smaller properties is a real struggle.

00:50:36.559 --> 00:50:39.335
We have concerns as well about um the

00:50:39.359 --> 00:50:41.095
practicalities of rolling out the glass

00:50:41.119 --> 00:50:42.936
service particularly to some of our muds

00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.256
who don't large apartment buildings that

00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:48.055
don't necessarily have appropriate 

00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:49.575
amounts of space to be able to

00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:51.896
accommodate additional bins. So, as most

00:50:51.920 --> 00:50:54.920
residents would be aware, we provide a

00:50:55.839 --> 00:50:57.575
communal collection service at the

00:50:57.599 --> 00:50:59.416
moment across the city. So, there's 80

00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:01.496
hubs where people can bring and many

00:51:01.520 --> 00:51:03.016
people do bring glass. So, we're

00:51:03.040 --> 00:51:05.416
envisaging that those communal services

00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:08.216
will continue to play a role in the

00:51:08.240 --> 00:51:10.776
city, but for residents who can 

00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:12.856
accept a purple bin um they will be

00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:15.880
provided. The intent is to provide them.

00:51:17.520 --> 00:51:20.520
Oh, and CEO would like to add something.

00:51:20.559 --> 00:51:22.535
 through you may I just in it just

00:51:22.559 --> 00:51:24.616
wanted to follow up on councelor Hardy's

00:51:24.640 --> 00:51:26.535
question around performance and miss

00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:29.559
bins.  in addition to monitoring the

00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:32.920
volume of mis bins, we also monitor our

00:51:33.040 --> 00:51:36.040
performance in rectifying miss bins and

00:51:36.240 --> 00:51:38.456
about in the end of October so far this

00:51:38.480 --> 00:51:41.480
year we're looking at around 98%

00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:45.400
on time um collection of fixing up the

00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:49.400
problem with misbel

00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:55.559
it's my understanding that this um

00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:58.136
pricing includes includes the weekly

00:51:58.160 --> 00:52:01.160
FOGO, coingleled, recycling, and um

00:52:03.040 --> 00:52:05.095
general waste to most properties. Also,

00:52:05.119 --> 00:52:07.496
the weekly cardboard,

00:52:07.520 --> 00:52:09.416
um the big buildings, multiple

00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:12.440
collections a week, the communal foggo

00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:15.656
stations, and the public space litter

00:52:15.680 --> 00:52:18.680
bids. In the absence of having more

00:52:19.359 --> 00:52:21.496
contenders in the market, did we look at

00:52:21.520 --> 00:52:24.520
what council could maybe take on board

00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:26.776
 for the service ourselves? Would we

00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:28.055
be able to take on some of those

00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:30.295
streams? Anything like that that might

00:52:30.319 --> 00:52:32.776
reduce the cost or  make it a better

00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:35.736
deal?

00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:38.295
 Johnson,

00:52:38.319 --> 00:52:39.815
 through you may thank you council

00:52:39.839 --> 00:52:41.815
consoler for your question. Yes, we did.

00:52:41.839 --> 00:52:44.839
So um clearly we only got two tenders 

00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:46.696
and then one of the tenders purchased

00:52:46.720 --> 00:52:47.976
the other tender in the middle of the

00:52:48.000 --> 00:52:51.000
process. So we needed a comparison. As

00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:53.815
the report outlines, we built up what

00:52:53.839 --> 00:52:55.815
we're calling a a best alter best

00:52:55.839 --> 00:52:58.696
alternative to negotiated outcome 

00:52:58.720 --> 00:53:01.416
which was  the agree negotiated

00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:02.856
agreement which is the BATNA which was

00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:04.535
effectively a service delivery model

00:53:04.559 --> 00:53:07.559
where council would  purchase the

00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:11.335
trucks  off cleanway which we're able

00:53:11.359 --> 00:53:13.335
to do under the deed of settlement that

00:53:13.359 --> 00:53:15.976
we entered into with citywide a few

00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:19.000
years ago. um and that we would in that

00:53:19.040 --> 00:53:22.040
case build up the internal  capability

00:53:22.319 --> 00:53:24.295
to be able to to to deliver that

00:53:24.319 --> 00:53:27.319
service. So we costed that model um and

00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:29.416
with a lot of caveats that are on there,

00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:32.440
it's comparable um to pro potentially

00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:35.480
slightly less um than the price  in

00:53:35.599 --> 00:53:37.176
the extension that you're considering

00:53:37.200 --> 00:53:40.136
tonight. As Steven outlined before,

00:53:40.160 --> 00:53:41.815
there's pretty significant setup

00:53:41.839 --> 00:53:43.176
requirements. So we're talking about

00:53:43.200 --> 00:53:45.016
around $10 million to be able to

00:53:45.040 --> 00:53:47.575
establish appropriate stabling, purchase

00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:50.535
the fleet, 60 staff. They need to be

00:53:50.559 --> 00:53:52.936
trained. There's significant

00:53:52.960 --> 00:53:54.535
occupational health and safety and

00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:56.936
national heavy vehicle obligations that

00:53:56.960 --> 00:53:59.496
fall to council in that particular

00:53:59.520 --> 00:54:02.520
circumstance as well. So making that

00:54:02.640 --> 00:54:04.616
decision to set up that process would

00:54:04.640 --> 00:54:06.776
take a considerable amount of time, time

00:54:06.800 --> 00:54:09.016
that council does not have available 

00:54:09.040 --> 00:54:11.176
with the current contract that's there.

00:54:11.200 --> 00:54:13.656
Um the other part to consider as well is

00:54:13.680 --> 00:54:15.736
that council service that we provide at

00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:17.815
the moment is unique compared to a lot

00:54:17.839 --> 00:54:20.216
of other um municipalities even inner

00:54:20.240 --> 00:54:22.696
city municipalities. So as the report

00:54:22.720 --> 00:54:25.016
outlines there's a lot of bin collection

00:54:25.040 --> 00:54:26.696
points that are in rear laneways.

00:54:26.720 --> 00:54:27.976
There's a lot in laneways that

00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:30.456
inaccessible to vehicles and need to be

00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:32.535
manually brought out. That adds

00:54:32.559 --> 00:54:35.559
considerable expense and inefficiency

00:54:35.680 --> 00:54:38.680
um to  to the service. So, the

00:54:39.119 --> 00:54:42.119
proposed extension with the 4-year term

00:54:42.160 --> 00:54:44.696
enables council to work with Cleanway to

00:54:44.720 --> 00:54:46.616
be able to try and make the where it's

00:54:46.640 --> 00:54:49.176
possible to make the  service more

00:54:49.200 --> 00:54:50.856
efficient. And then at that point,

00:54:50.880 --> 00:54:52.696
council could consider whether it wanted

00:54:52.720 --> 00:54:55.335
to go back out to market for all of the

00:54:55.359 --> 00:54:57.416
services, potentially in-house some of

00:54:57.440 --> 00:54:58.696
those services, whether it would make

00:54:58.720 --> 00:55:01.720
sense then. Um and  but you'd have a

00:55:01.920 --> 00:55:03.896
there'll be a more efficient service to

00:55:03.920 --> 00:55:05.976
be able to deliver either through a

00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:07.575
contracted arrangement or an in-house

00:55:07.599 --> 00:55:08.216
arrangement.

00:55:08.240 --> 00:55:09.976
Thank you very much.

00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:11.896
Okay. Are there any further questions?

00:55:11.920 --> 00:55:13.496
Who hasn't?  councelor Holidayiday,

00:55:13.520 --> 00:55:14.936
I'll go to you and then come to

00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:17.016
councelor Jay.

00:55:17.040 --> 00:55:20.040
 thank you may just following up again

00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:23.335
on the actual waste charges. Obviously

00:55:23.359 --> 00:55:25.896
you know um this is a separate charge

00:55:25.920 --> 00:55:28.456
that we see um going up from year to

00:55:28.480 --> 00:55:31.016
year. I'm just wondering what mechanisms

00:55:31.040 --> 00:55:34.040
we as council have to reduce the waste

00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:37.480
charge or to mitigate further increases

00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:40.599
in the waste charge.

00:55:41.119 --> 00:55:42.776
Lachlan Johnson.

00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:45.800
 through you mayor. Um so the waste

00:55:45.839 --> 00:55:47.896
charge as I mentioned before is made up

00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:49.736
of the cost to both collect the waste

00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:52.376
and then recycle it or dispose of it um

00:55:52.400 --> 00:55:54.456
or process it. So council has very

00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:56.136
little control over the price paid for

00:55:56.160 --> 00:55:59.160
disposal  and recycling. Um it's state

00:55:59.520 --> 00:56:02.216
policy as I said before to tax landfill

00:56:02.240 --> 00:56:04.216
to incentivize recycling through

00:56:04.240 --> 00:56:06.376
co-mingled recycling or fog or glass

00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:08.936
recycling. Um and as such the landfill

00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:11.896
levy we expect to continue to climb um

00:56:11.920 --> 00:56:14.920
over the next few years. Um the the the

00:56:17.200 --> 00:56:19.335
key control or the key thing that's in

00:56:19.359 --> 00:56:21.335
council's control to really manage cost

00:56:21.359 --> 00:56:23.256
here is to try and incentivize that

00:56:23.280 --> 00:56:25.656
shift to recycling. It's cheaper to

00:56:25.680 --> 00:56:27.976
recycle material than to dispose of it

00:56:28.000 --> 00:56:31.000
in landfill and pay the landfill levy.

00:56:31.040 --> 00:56:33.335
So anything that council can do to try

00:56:33.359 --> 00:56:35.256
and disincentivize the use of the

00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:37.736
landfill bin and incentivize the use of

00:56:37.760 --> 00:56:39.656
the appropriate use of the recycling

00:56:39.680 --> 00:56:41.976
streams is the biggest way that we can

00:56:42.000 --> 00:56:44.775
drive down cost. The other thing that

00:56:44.799 --> 00:56:46.616
contributes to cost spoken a little bit

00:56:46.640 --> 00:56:47.976
about tonight is frequency of

00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:50.376
collection. So if council reduces

00:56:50.400 --> 00:56:52.376
frequency, there's likely to be some

00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:55.400
cost savings. Um although  to council

00:56:56.240 --> 00:56:58.456
fan's question,

00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:00.295
if we went to fortnightly garbage, for

00:57:00.319 --> 00:57:01.736
example, there are some streets where

00:57:01.760 --> 00:57:03.095
the truck would still drive down the

00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:04.535
street because some of those properties

00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:06.535
would still need to have the weekly

00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:07.896
service whereas some others could have

00:57:07.920 --> 00:57:09.496
the fortnightly service. So it's it's

00:57:09.520 --> 00:57:11.896
not a one forone relationship in terms

00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:14.295
of the frequency and cost. But if

00:57:14.319 --> 00:57:17.016
council um was able to adjust frequency,

00:57:17.040 --> 00:57:19.335
it is likely to have  a down put

00:57:19.359 --> 00:57:21.256
downward pressure on the  waste

00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:24.280
charge. Um and then as I spoke about

00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:26.295
before, if council and cleanway are able

00:57:26.319 --> 00:57:29.319
to make the service more efficient, for

00:57:29.359 --> 00:57:31.176
example, by shifting bin pickup

00:57:31.200 --> 00:57:33.496
locations from some laneways onto major

00:57:33.520 --> 00:57:35.656
roads where it's more efficient to

00:57:35.680 --> 00:57:38.680
service. Um, this will also reduce cost

00:57:38.720 --> 00:57:40.616
and all those cost savings are passed on

00:57:40.640 --> 00:57:42.295
to the community through either a

00:57:42.319 --> 00:57:43.976
reduction in the waste charge or or less

00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:46.136
of an increase given those other upward

00:57:46.160 --> 00:57:48.696
pressures.

00:57:48.720 --> 00:57:51.575
Council J.

00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:53.416
Yes, and thank you. We know there's a

00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:55.095
lot of questions. It's very important to

00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:57.335
our community. So, thank you for um

00:57:57.359 --> 00:58:00.216
everyone's answers and time.

00:58:00.240 --> 00:58:02.535
Um both myself and the community want to

00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:04.456
understand could we have offered the

00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:06.616
contracts in a different way to attract

00:58:06.640 --> 00:58:09.496
more tenders. Um, what was so limiting

00:58:09.520 --> 00:58:11.176
about the contract and why was there

00:58:11.200 --> 00:58:13.176
only two tenders that came down to one

00:58:13.200 --> 00:58:16.200
in the end is my first question.

00:58:16.400 --> 00:58:17.095
Steven.

00:58:17.119 --> 00:58:19.896
Yeah, through you may. Look, it's a re

00:58:19.920 --> 00:58:22.136
really good question. Um, I think in the

00:58:22.160 --> 00:58:24.696
past council's received um I think

00:58:24.720 --> 00:58:26.136
usually three tenders. So there are

00:58:26.160 --> 00:58:28.696
three companies that commonly tender for

00:58:28.720 --> 00:58:31.720
work in inner Melbourne. Um, for various

00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:34.295
reasons, one of those companies chose

00:58:34.319 --> 00:58:37.095
not to tender this time. Um in part that

00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:39.176
was to do with the um contract

00:58:39.200 --> 00:58:41.335
conditions that council had. It was also

00:58:41.359 --> 00:58:44.295
to do with other work that they had um

00:58:44.319 --> 00:58:47.319
in place at the time. Um but there has

00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:49.656
been a consolidation. So I think

00:58:49.680 --> 00:58:51.896
cleanway's acquisition of citywide is

00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:53.416
going to have an impact on inner

00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:55.416
Melbourne municipalities in terms of the

00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:58.055
number of companies that are skilled in

00:58:58.079 --> 00:58:59.575
and interested in tendering for the

00:58:59.599 --> 00:59:02.216
work.  all con all of the major

00:59:02.240 --> 00:59:04.295
contractors were made aware of council's

00:59:04.319 --> 00:59:06.456
tender. Um so a lot of effort went into

00:59:06.480 --> 00:59:07.656
making sure people knew it was

00:59:07.680 --> 00:59:09.496
happening. We had attend a briefing

00:59:09.520 --> 00:59:12.520
session that was attended by um five

00:59:13.040 --> 00:59:15.736
companies. Um  three of those

00:59:15.760 --> 00:59:17.815
companies later came on a a side tour

00:59:17.839 --> 00:59:19.016
where we walked through some of the

00:59:19.040 --> 00:59:20.696
typical streets and showed them the sort

00:59:20.720 --> 00:59:22.696
of collection conditions they contend

00:59:22.720 --> 00:59:25.720
with. Um so and obviously we in the end

00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:29.016
received tenders from two of the

00:59:29.040 --> 00:59:31.095
companies. I think in the future and I

00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:33.256
think Lachlan's gone through a list of a

00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:35.575
lot of the things that council might do

00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:37.176
that would make the service less

00:59:37.200 --> 00:59:40.136
complicated and derisk it for companies

00:59:40.160 --> 00:59:42.376
to tender particularly companies that

00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:44.456
are less experienced in inner urban

00:59:44.480 --> 00:59:46.936
areas. Um and that I think would be an

00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:48.616
important thing to do ahead of any

00:59:48.640 --> 00:59:51.640
future tender.

00:59:51.839 --> 00:59:52.456
Follow up.

00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:54.055
Thank you for that. I've got a couple

00:59:54.079 --> 00:59:55.976
more questions.

00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:58.535
Um

00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:01.416
there's some sort of semblance here. 

01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:04.440
there's some questions about um  does

01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:07.736
the contract cover rapid cleaning and

01:00:07.760 --> 01:00:10.295
hard rubbish and also what's the cost

01:00:10.319 --> 01:00:13.319
per bin collected of our new contract

01:00:13.359 --> 01:00:16.359
compared to our current contract?

01:00:16.799 --> 01:00:18.216
 Simon,

01:00:18.240 --> 01:00:20.775
thank you. Thank for you may thanks

01:00:20.799 --> 01:00:23.799
councelor for your question. Um, council

01:00:23.839 --> 01:00:25.976
has an in-house team for rapid response

01:00:26.000 --> 01:00:28.535
who work with council's city amenity

01:00:28.559 --> 01:00:31.559
officers um to um attend to to cleaning.

01:00:33.119 --> 01:00:34.775
As part of the contract extension, the

01:00:34.799 --> 01:00:37.416
contractor is required to um resource

01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:39.176
and respond to spillages from bins. So,

01:00:39.200 --> 01:00:40.295
when they're emptying the bins, if they

01:00:40.319 --> 01:00:41.815
spill, they're required to stop and pick

01:00:41.839 --> 01:00:44.839
up those papers. Um council um receives

01:00:46.240 --> 01:00:48.055
an average of 10 reports of spillage

01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:50.696
each month.  this contract extension

01:00:50.720 --> 01:00:52.696
does not cover hard waste and dump

01:00:52.720 --> 01:00:54.856
rubbish. That's managed under a separate

01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:57.016
contract arrangement with a different

01:00:57.040 --> 01:00:59.736
contractor to clean away. Um and in

01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:01.256
regards to your second question about

01:01:01.280 --> 01:01:04.136
the cost, um council has a variety of

01:01:04.160 --> 01:01:06.936
bins across the city including 80 L, 120

01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:09.960
L, 240 bins and the large 660s and 1100

01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:12.775
skips. They all have different rates,

01:01:12.799 --> 01:01:15.496
but on average the cost increase from

01:01:15.520 --> 01:01:18.520
the current um contract to the proposed

01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:21.960
extension is 14% increase.

01:01:22.319 --> 01:01:24.696
Um thank you. I have one more question.

01:01:24.720 --> 01:01:27.720
Um this will be my final question. Um,

01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:29.575
, as a new council, one of the

01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:31.656
biggest, um, complaints I get is about

01:01:31.680 --> 01:01:34.616
bins and and and one that I've gotten,

01:01:34.640 --> 01:01:36.616
um, this year is about the bins not

01:01:36.640 --> 01:01:39.640
being left, um, properly or, , being

01:01:40.400 --> 01:01:42.456
strewn all over the street. In some

01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:45.176
situations, not all situations. , the

01:01:45.200 --> 01:01:47.095
residents want to know if if there's any

01:01:47.119 --> 01:01:48.535
mitigation for that in this new

01:01:48.559 --> 01:01:50.535
contract.

01:01:50.559 --> 01:01:51.496
Simon,

01:01:51.520 --> 01:01:53.575
you may thank you for your question. Um

01:01:53.599 --> 01:01:55.176
the safe placement of bins is a

01:01:55.200 --> 01:01:56.696
requirement under under the existing

01:01:56.720 --> 01:01:59.720
contract and the proposed extension. The

01:01:59.839 --> 01:02:01.575
negotiated extension includes an

01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:04.216
additional leading hand position that

01:02:04.240 --> 01:02:05.976
that the contractor will employ to

01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:08.616
provide quality control and assurance on

01:02:08.640 --> 01:02:10.936
such items as bin placement, bin

01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:13.960
spillage, miss and misolctions. As part

01:02:14.240 --> 01:02:15.736
of the suite of performance measures

01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:18.616
that council tracks, complaints, reports

01:02:18.640 --> 01:02:20.616
on spillage, miss bins, insurance

01:02:20.640 --> 01:02:23.640
matter, etc. Um we we do track um yeah

01:02:25.520 --> 01:02:27.256
we do track the u number of complaints

01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:30.136
that come in about um poor beam

01:02:30.160 --> 01:02:32.136
placement and we take it up with a

01:02:32.160 --> 01:02:34.456
contractor um daily and also at our

01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:36.456
monthly contract meetings.

01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:38.295
Thank you.

01:02:38.319 --> 01:02:39.736
All right councilors we have asked a lot

01:02:39.760 --> 01:02:41.815
of question councelor Hardy one

01:02:41.839 --> 01:02:44.216
just to follow up on um Mr. Johnson's

01:02:44.240 --> 01:02:46.696
answer in relation to um recycling. Does

01:02:46.720 --> 01:02:48.616
the council pay for contaminated

01:02:48.640 --> 01:02:51.640
recycling to be taken to landfill?

01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:54.535
Lan Johnson unfortunately

01:02:54.559 --> 01:02:56.535
through you may yes we do and we pay a

01:02:56.559 --> 01:02:59.496
lot of money for it so it equates to um

01:02:59.520 --> 01:03:02.136
close to $800,000 a year for

01:03:02.160 --> 01:03:05.160
contamination contamination sit so this

01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:07.335
could be  recycling that's wrapped in

01:03:07.359 --> 01:03:10.359
plastic bags um this could be  fogo

01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:14.119
that's wrapped in non biodegradable bags

01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:17.095
 the tetropacks that go into coingle

01:03:17.119 --> 01:03:18.936
they all add to the recycling cost so if

01:03:18.960 --> 01:03:20.136
we're able to drive down that

01:03:20.160 --> 01:03:21.176
contamination

01:03:21.200 --> 01:03:23.335
rate that that's a significant saving.

01:03:23.359 --> 01:03:25.815
It also obviously increases the amount

01:03:25.839 --> 01:03:28.839
that is not buried  in landfill and

01:03:30.160 --> 01:03:32.775
it's a key consideration when you 

01:03:32.799 --> 01:03:34.936
when council's considering a transition

01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:37.015
to fortnightly collection. So a lot of

01:03:37.039 --> 01:03:38.936
other councils that have transitioned to

01:03:38.960 --> 01:03:41.335
fortnightly garbage collection but kept

01:03:41.359 --> 01:03:43.335
kind of weekly FOGO or weekly

01:03:43.359 --> 01:03:45.256
co-mingled. They've invested quite

01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:47.736
heavily in education campaigns and

01:03:47.760 --> 01:03:49.896
people putting tags on bins and those

01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:52.616
kind of things to encourage people to to

01:03:52.640 --> 01:03:55.015
use those recycling streams well to

01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:56.775
avoid that contamination because it can

01:03:56.799 --> 01:03:59.015
be significantly expensive.

01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:01.736
Did you say 800,000?

01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:02.136
Yes.

01:04:02.160 --> 01:04:03.335
Okay.

01:04:03.359 --> 01:04:04.936
Okay. And I'm going to ask one final

01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:06.535
question. council de man

01:04:06.559 --> 01:04:08.775
just question there are still a few four

01:04:08.799 --> 01:04:11.335
seasons  rubbish bin trucks running

01:04:11.359 --> 01:04:14.359
around the city so  is that  clean

01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:18.136
way sub you know subcontracting or

01:04:18.160 --> 01:04:21.095
rubbish I believe hard waste

01:04:21.119 --> 01:04:24.119
through may so four seasons  waste

01:04:24.319 --> 01:04:26.055
have the contract with council for hard

01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:27.976
waste and dump rubbish so they have

01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:29.736
compactor trucks the garbage trucks that

01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:32.456
they utilize for that um and then in

01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:33.896
terms of the curbside collection

01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:34.936
vehicles

01:04:34.960 --> 01:04:36.696
 clean away are in a process of

01:04:36.720 --> 01:04:39.496
rebranding  those trucks  to be

01:04:39.520 --> 01:04:42.295
clean away trucks um  and their staff

01:04:42.319 --> 01:04:45.015
uniforms and other things as well.

01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:47.575
Okay, councilors, we've investigated

01:04:47.599 --> 01:04:49.496
interrogated that we have an officer's

01:04:49.520 --> 01:04:51.496
recommendation. Do I have a mover for

01:04:51.520 --> 01:04:54.216
this or something different?

01:04:54.240 --> 01:04:56.136
Council Holiday to move council Hardy to

01:04:56.160 --> 01:04:59.160
second. Councelor Holidayiday.

01:05:01.200 --> 01:05:04.200
Yes. Um thank you mayor. 

01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:10.440
I think um I thank Michael for coming

01:05:10.880 --> 01:05:13.256
along tonight actually just  as we get

01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:16.280
started because he has been following

01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:19.400
this particular topic um over over the

01:05:20.640 --> 01:05:23.640
last few years and I echo his sentiments

01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:28.280
about the process that has been followed

01:05:28.319 --> 01:05:31.319
here um to select a

01:05:31.680 --> 01:05:34.616
a a um a vendor to um collect our

01:05:34.640 --> 01:05:37.640
rubbish. Um it has not been easy to do

01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:39.815
that due to the consolidation in the

01:05:39.839 --> 01:05:42.775
industry and  only the two um the two

01:05:42.799 --> 01:05:45.799
bidders on this um and council officers

01:05:46.079 --> 01:05:48.535
have had to come up with creative ways

01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:51.559
to creative ways um you know to

01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:55.015
determine whether we are getting value

01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:58.039
for money from this contract. Um and I

01:05:58.319 --> 01:06:00.936
think that ultimately they have done

01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:03.960
admirably in doing this. Um I can see

01:06:04.720 --> 01:06:07.335
here from you know and you have all

01:06:07.359 --> 01:06:10.295
heard from the questions the depth of um

01:06:10.319 --> 01:06:12.376
thinking that has gone into this to

01:06:12.400 --> 01:06:15.400
ensure that we  avoid um the pitfalls

01:06:16.960 --> 01:06:19.960
that um befell the last contract. Um and

01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:23.400
hopefully we will see through this um a

01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:26.760
seamless transition to the new contract.

01:06:26.960 --> 01:06:29.960
Um also putting in place a new contract

01:06:30.160 --> 01:06:32.856
that allows us the flexibility over the

01:06:32.880 --> 01:06:35.880
next few years to um implement our um

01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:40.280
our waste strategy which is you know um

01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:43.559
in consultation as well. um so that we

01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:45.575
can ensure that we get value for money

01:06:45.599 --> 01:06:48.599
for um our residents and so that we can

01:06:48.720 --> 01:06:51.720
ensure that we um help to do our part in

01:06:53.280 --> 01:06:55.176
um you know reducing the amount of waste

01:06:55.200 --> 01:06:57.736
that goes into landfill as well from our

01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:00.760
community. So I fully support  this

01:07:01.359 --> 01:07:04.359
contract awarding process. Um and again

01:07:04.400 --> 01:07:06.456
I commend the council officers for the

01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:08.216
work that they've done on this and the

01:07:08.240 --> 01:07:10.136
community who've come along for the

01:07:10.160 --> 01:07:13.160
journey and helped um you know us you

01:07:14.559 --> 01:07:16.616
know identify the pitfalls that we that

01:07:16.640 --> 01:07:18.055
we wanted to avoid along the way

01:07:18.079 --> 01:07:21.079
through. Um so again I commend this to

01:07:21.119 --> 01:07:22.775
my fellow counselors.

01:07:22.799 --> 01:07:25.256
Thank you councelor Hardy.

01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:28.280
I think enough said.

01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:32.280
I'm going to I'm going to jump in here.

01:07:32.640 --> 01:07:35.640
Um, we actually have to change how we do

01:07:35.839 --> 01:07:38.839
waste. It's a statewide council. Every

01:07:39.200 --> 01:07:41.095
79 council has to adjust how they do

01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:44.119
waste. It's mandated and legislated

01:07:44.240 --> 01:07:46.376
around four services and a reduction in

01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:48.295
landfill by an increasing landfill levy

01:07:48.319 --> 01:07:50.696
that is designed to change our behavior.

01:07:50.720 --> 01:07:52.376
So, let's be clear, it's not always

01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:54.216
going to be comfortable or easy, but we

01:07:54.240 --> 01:07:56.936
have to adjust. Um, and I believe that

01:07:56.960 --> 01:07:59.256
this is a contract that is designed to

01:07:59.280 --> 01:08:01.575
help us adjust in in that process and

01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:04.456
future proofs us for the changes that we

01:08:04.480 --> 01:08:07.480
have to make. Also to note that our

01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:09.256
community tells us all the time that

01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:10.936
they want to be sustainable and they

01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:12.456
want to be environment friendly. It's

01:08:12.480 --> 01:08:13.815
high on their list of how they see

01:08:13.839 --> 01:08:15.896
themselves in the city of Port Phillip.

01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:18.920
So, this is a journey. This is a a um a

01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:21.335
contract designed to help us on that

01:08:21.359 --> 01:08:22.936
journey, make those adjustments, phase

01:08:22.960 --> 01:08:25.416
it in. But it is a joint journey with

01:08:25.440 --> 01:08:27.815
the community. Um and if we want to save

01:08:27.839 --> 01:08:30.215
money, it's about us all doing the right

01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:31.416
thing. And I can tell you in my

01:08:31.440 --> 01:08:33.335
apartment bot building, there are there

01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:35.255
may be two of us out of 30 that do the

01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:36.936
right thing. So it is a big change

01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:38.295
ahead. But I do want to thank the

01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:40.135
officers. I think that there are many

01:08:40.159 --> 01:08:42.056
checks and balances which is important

01:08:42.080 --> 01:08:43.976
but there's also the flexibility in this

01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:46.695
contract for the change that's coming

01:08:46.719 --> 01:08:48.376
but I do want councils urge you to

01:08:48.400 --> 01:08:49.976
support this because the change is

01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:51.815
coming whether you like it or not and we

01:08:51.839 --> 01:08:53.815
need to help our community adjust

01:08:53.839 --> 01:08:55.496
through this and this contract will be

01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:57.896
part of doing that

01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:00.135
any councelor Tomman

01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:03.159
no I support this and I agree with what

01:09:03.199 --> 01:09:04.695
the mayor said I think one of the

01:09:04.719 --> 01:09:06.295
problem with a lot of renters who don't

01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:08.856
necessarily as not necessarily as

01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:11.416
concerned about doing the right thing um

01:09:11.440 --> 01:09:13.416
compared to some of the honors or people

01:09:13.440 --> 01:09:16.440
that have been longtime residents. Um I

01:09:16.560 --> 01:09:18.456
believe that  what happened 3 years

01:09:18.480 --> 01:09:20.695
ago is not going to happen this time and

01:09:20.719 --> 01:09:23.335
I just  took a picture of Babin

01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:25.976
outside my apartment block last week. 

01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:28.856
and I could not believe how well how

01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:31.016
aligned they were nearly with a ruler or

01:09:31.040 --> 01:09:32.616
something. But  I've actually never

01:09:32.640 --> 01:09:35.640
seen that. So, um, I'm I'm sort of

01:09:35.759 --> 01:09:37.255
pleased that we're going with these

01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:39.096
people and if they keep doing the job

01:09:39.120 --> 01:09:41.576
that that they that they're doing, I

01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:44.376
think we the community and everyone will

01:09:44.400 --> 01:09:45.896
be pleased and we're not going to be

01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:48.616
inundated by lots of emails or phone

01:09:48.640 --> 01:09:50.056
calls because their bins haven't been

01:09:50.080 --> 01:09:52.135
picked up.

01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:54.536
, who was it? Councelor Consol.

01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:55.976
Thanks.

01:09:56.000 --> 01:09:59.000
It was really hard when we changed the

01:09:59.360 --> 01:10:02.360
contractor last time and um you know I

01:10:03.120 --> 01:10:05.736
really appreciate that the officers took

01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:08.760
it on head on and ride of the ship and

01:10:09.440 --> 01:10:12.440
it has been much much better and where

01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:16.296
we're at here is

01:10:16.320 --> 01:10:18.695
in a in a stable environment. You know,

01:10:18.719 --> 01:10:21.655
I don't hear any complaints right now

01:10:21.679 --> 01:10:23.655
there. If they people have missed bins,

01:10:23.679 --> 01:10:25.496
they're easily doing on snaps and solve.

01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:27.175
It's getting resolved. It's it's working

01:10:27.199 --> 01:10:30.199
really well. And to see the contact 

01:10:30.320 --> 01:10:32.936
contract extended, I think that that's a

01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:34.776
reflection of one, yes, the market

01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:36.376
there's no one else really competing

01:10:36.400 --> 01:10:39.400
right now, but it's this is a good fit

01:10:39.440 --> 01:10:42.215
for us for now and for the little bit of

01:10:42.239 --> 01:10:43.736
unknowns in the future around those

01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:46.760
glass bins. um any other changes the

01:10:47.360 --> 01:10:48.616
state government throws our way. There's

01:10:48.640 --> 01:10:51.640
a lot of flexibility and and um thought

01:10:51.679 --> 01:10:54.456
gone into this arrangement and I really

01:10:54.480 --> 01:10:57.175
really appreciate the council officer's

01:10:57.199 --> 01:11:00.199
work on this.

01:11:00.400 --> 01:11:01.655
Councelor Min

01:11:01.679 --> 01:11:03.896
appreciate the work that went into 

01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:05.736
this recommendation. Also the community

01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:07.816
in keeping  council accountable so

01:11:07.840 --> 01:11:10.056
that we learn from that experience and

01:11:10.080 --> 01:11:12.056
also being upfront in saying that they

01:11:12.080 --> 01:11:13.816
appreciate the efforts that have taken

01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:15.576
place in correcting that course of

01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:17.496
action. The reality is we have a

01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:19.896
recommendation before us. Any

01:11:19.920 --> 01:11:22.456
alternative to that recommendation is

01:11:22.480 --> 01:11:24.856
likely to increase uncertainty, increase

01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:27.880
risk and increase costs. So you know

01:11:28.080 --> 01:11:30.536
this is the recommendation that is right

01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:33.016
for where we are. It is unfortunate that

01:11:33.040 --> 01:11:35.576
we didn't have a fully competitive

01:11:35.600 --> 01:11:37.416
process where we could have actually

01:11:37.440 --> 01:11:40.440
started to compare service offers. This

01:11:40.480 --> 01:11:42.296
is what we have before us. It is the

01:11:42.320 --> 01:11:45.320
option that will deliver a service at

01:11:45.600 --> 01:11:48.536
the lowest possible cost relative to

01:11:48.560 --> 01:11:50.695
other options. and therefore I do

01:11:50.719 --> 01:11:52.376
support this recommendation and once

01:11:52.400 --> 01:11:53.816
again thank the community for their

01:11:53.840 --> 01:11:56.536
input throughout this process and in

01:11:56.560 --> 01:11:59.560
shaping where we are tonight. Thank you.

01:11:59.840 --> 01:12:01.496
Any other counselor wish to speak to the

01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:04.056
item? Deputy mayor me

01:12:04.080 --> 01:12:07.080
 briefly I um impressed am impressed

01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:09.175
tonight with the quality of the answers

01:12:09.199 --> 01:12:11.816
to the questions. It indicates clearly

01:12:11.840 --> 01:12:13.816
that the council officers are well

01:12:13.840 --> 01:12:16.695
across this brief. It is a complex

01:12:16.719 --> 01:12:19.719
issue. It is a costly issue and I'm very

01:12:20.239 --> 01:12:22.856
confident with the responses to our

01:12:22.880 --> 01:12:25.880
questions that the council know the best

01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:27.576
the council officers know the best way

01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:29.816
forward for our community and I will

01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:32.840
support the motion

01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:36.760
council J

01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:42.520
roads rates and rubbish these are the

01:12:43.360 --> 01:12:44.616
things that are important to our

01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:46.456
community we learned that through the

01:12:46.480 --> 01:12:48.616
last waste contract. We learned a lot of

01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:51.096
lessons through that. Rubbish waste is a

01:12:51.120 --> 01:12:54.120
core a core service for our community.

01:12:54.400 --> 01:12:57.016
Um it is unfortunate where you only get,

01:12:57.040 --> 01:12:58.856
you know, two tenders and then they eat

01:12:58.880 --> 01:13:01.016
each other up in in in in the middle.

01:13:01.040 --> 01:13:04.040
But um we are confident that we will

01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:07.336
actually get an uplift in service from

01:13:07.360 --> 01:13:09.655
this decision.  we're not going to

01:13:09.679 --> 01:13:11.416
have issues with maps because it's the

01:13:11.440 --> 01:13:13.336
current  it's it's the current

01:13:13.360 --> 01:13:16.360
contractor, so they're very familiar. Um

01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:19.896
we

01:13:19.920 --> 01:13:22.135
are really aware of the community

01:13:22.159 --> 01:13:25.159
interest and also our own interest in

01:13:25.280 --> 01:13:27.736
this particular contract. It is

01:13:27.760 --> 01:13:29.736
important to our everyday living. It

01:13:29.760 --> 01:13:32.760
costs a lot and in a cost of living um

01:13:33.440 --> 01:13:35.576
situation. Everyone's trying to save

01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:38.600
money. So um I hope the community  is

01:13:41.120 --> 01:13:43.336
confident hearing all the answers. We

01:13:43.360 --> 01:13:45.256
have asked so many questions behind

01:13:45.280 --> 01:13:48.280
closed doors. Um, and I will be

01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:51.800
supporting this tonight. So, thank you.

01:13:54.320 --> 01:13:57.016
Anyone left to say anything or we can go

01:13:57.040 --> 01:14:00.040
back to councelor Holidayiday to close.

01:14:01.440 --> 01:14:04.056
Thank you, mayor. Um, as you mentioned,

01:14:04.080 --> 01:14:07.080
behavior change is hard. Um and people

01:14:08.000 --> 01:14:10.056
might not like it but price signals are

01:14:10.080 --> 01:14:12.215
a very effective  way of changing

01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:15.239
people's behavior. Um

01:14:15.280 --> 01:14:17.496
which is just an observation. I think 

01:14:17.520 --> 01:14:19.816
ultimately we are lucky here that the

01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:22.215
vendor we have ended up with are

01:14:22.239 --> 01:14:25.239
delivering here and they are delivering

01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:29.640
improvements over the last um the last

01:14:30.080 --> 01:14:33.080
vendor. this could have ended up with a

01:14:33.280 --> 01:14:34.776
consolidation or a situation with

01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:37.496
tenderers where we ended up with a

01:14:37.520 --> 01:14:40.376
vendor who whose services were going in

01:14:40.400 --> 01:14:43.400
the other direction. So, um ultimately I

01:14:43.440 --> 01:14:45.655
think um we've ended up  in a very

01:14:45.679 --> 01:14:47.496
good position for the next four years

01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:49.976
and um you know I just hope that the

01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:52.056
vendor continues to deliver the the good

01:14:52.080 --> 01:14:54.135
services that they're doing now um and

01:14:54.159 --> 01:14:55.496
that we can navigate through the rest of

01:14:55.520 --> 01:14:57.256
our challenges with waste over the next

01:14:57.280 --> 01:14:59.896
four years  in the same manner. So, I

01:14:59.920 --> 01:15:01.655
um commend this to my fellow counselors

01:15:01.679 --> 01:15:03.976
and I suggest we put this to the vote.

01:15:04.000 --> 01:15:05.336
Yes, let's put this to the vote. All

01:15:05.360 --> 01:15:07.736
those in favour? That is carried

01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:10.760
unanimously. Thank you, councilors. I

01:15:12.320 --> 01:15:14.215
feel like we could fit one more thing in

01:15:14.239 --> 01:15:15.496
before we take a break. So, we're going

01:15:15.520 --> 01:15:17.496
to move to 10.1, which is the contract

01:15:17.520 --> 01:15:19.256
award for open space maintenance

01:15:19.280 --> 01:15:20.856
contract.

01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:22.456
Um,

01:15:22.480 --> 01:15:24.536
we have a report from officers, which

01:15:24.560 --> 01:15:25.976
I'm going to get up. Are there any

01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:29.000
questions?

01:15:30.719 --> 01:15:33.256
, councelor Holidayiday. Thank you.

01:15:33.280 --> 01:15:35.416
, just picking up on a question from

01:15:35.440 --> 01:15:38.296
, one of our residents earlier um,

01:15:38.320 --> 01:15:41.320
about the scoring um, and whether the

01:15:41.440 --> 01:15:44.440
scoring was or why the scoring was not

01:15:44.560 --> 01:15:47.256
included in the pack for the tenderers.

01:15:47.280 --> 01:15:49.896
, Lachlan Johnson.

01:15:49.920 --> 01:15:52.135
 through you may um as councilors be

01:15:52.159 --> 01:15:53.655
aware there's some confidential

01:15:53.679 --> 01:15:55.976
attachments that contain a lot of detail

01:15:56.000 --> 01:15:58.135
in here including commercial and

01:15:58.159 --> 01:15:59.816
confidence information, pricing

01:15:59.840 --> 01:16:01.336
information,

01:16:01.360 --> 01:16:03.655
 scoring information and detail behind

01:16:03.679 --> 01:16:05.655
the scoring information about the pros

01:16:05.679 --> 01:16:08.679
and cons um of the contractors. Um 

01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:12.376
the public question tonight asked why in

01:16:12.400 --> 01:16:15.256
some previous council decisions the

01:16:15.280 --> 01:16:17.576
scoring has been included.  in this

01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:19.576
particular report it was not the detail

01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:20.936
is included in the confidential

01:16:20.960 --> 01:16:23.960
attachments um the reason why those

01:16:24.080 --> 01:16:26.056
attachments are confidential and that

01:16:26.080 --> 01:16:28.856
information is outlined in the report 

01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:31.880
and I um I'll refer to that information

01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:33.816
as to why we haven't disclosed that

01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:36.215
information in the public report

01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:39.239
thank you any other questions councilors

01:16:42.400 --> 01:16:44.856
I have a question you're in the hot seat

01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:47.576
for your final night um or maybe one of

01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:50.600
Simon or um

01:16:50.960 --> 01:16:53.960
do we have a similar checks and balances

01:16:54.400 --> 01:16:57.175
in place for this open space contract

01:16:57.199 --> 01:16:59.655
given we're moving from

01:16:59.679 --> 01:17:02.679
citywide to is it citywide? So that are

01:17:02.719 --> 01:17:04.695
we do we have that transition pl um

01:17:04.719 --> 01:17:07.576
plans in place to make sure that oh is

01:17:07.600 --> 01:17:08.856
this the tree one? This is the open

01:17:08.880 --> 01:17:09.496
space one.

01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:10.135
Open space.

01:17:10.159 --> 01:17:12.616
Open space one. But in the change of of

01:17:12.640 --> 01:17:14.456
contractors, do we have those kind of

01:17:14.480 --> 01:17:17.096
checks and balances in place?

01:17:17.120 --> 01:17:19.096
Um through you, mayor. Yes. For both

01:17:19.120 --> 01:17:22.120
open space and trees. So um after the

01:17:23.199 --> 01:17:24.776
issues that occurred with the previous

01:17:24.800 --> 01:17:27.256
waste contract, council um undertook a

01:17:27.280 --> 01:17:29.416
detailed review and update of our

01:17:29.440 --> 01:17:31.896
processes. We implemented a new process

01:17:31.920 --> 01:17:33.736
for what we determine are high-risisk

01:17:33.760 --> 01:17:36.056
and high value contracts of which the

01:17:36.080 --> 01:17:38.376
open space maintenance and the tree

01:17:38.400 --> 01:17:39.816
maintenance contracts you're considering

01:17:39.840 --> 01:17:42.376
tonight are both considered that. What

01:17:42.400 --> 01:17:44.376
that means is from a council governance

01:17:44.400 --> 01:17:47.096
perspective this dedicated governance

01:17:47.120 --> 01:17:48.936
that's set up not just for the

01:17:48.960 --> 01:17:51.496
procurement process but importantly for

01:17:51.520 --> 01:17:54.520
the transition. So if council elect

01:17:54.880 --> 01:17:57.336
tonight to award the contract to green

01:17:57.360 --> 01:17:59.976
by nature, um the actual services won't

01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:02.616
start until April  next year, but the

01:18:02.640 --> 01:18:05.256
work begins now for the transition. So

01:18:05.280 --> 01:18:08.280
that transition um will be governed by

01:18:08.880 --> 01:18:10.616
that group within council. So there are

01:18:10.640 --> 01:18:12.376
milestones, there are go live

01:18:12.400 --> 01:18:14.695
checklists, there are reporting, there's

01:18:14.719 --> 01:18:17.336
independent assurance that takes place

01:18:17.360 --> 01:18:19.976
all well ahead of that one April

01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:22.936
commencement date. Um that includes

01:18:22.960 --> 01:18:24.776
things that the contractor needs to do,

01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:27.800
say procuring equipment, hiring staff,

01:18:28.400 --> 01:18:30.296
designing routes, but it also includes

01:18:30.320 --> 01:18:32.215
things that council needs to do as well

01:18:32.239 --> 01:18:33.816
to make sure that the contractor is able

01:18:33.840 --> 01:18:35.336
to provide their services and they're

01:18:35.360 --> 01:18:37.976
integrated with council systems. So that

01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:41.000
high-risk highv value approach provides

01:18:41.120 --> 01:18:44.120
rigor and  a systematic way to ensure

01:18:45.440 --> 01:18:48.135
that we are confident that we don't have

01:18:48.159 --> 01:18:50.695
those issues once commencement takes

01:18:50.719 --> 01:18:51.655
place.

01:18:51.679 --> 01:18:53.976
Thank you councelor Min.

01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:55.896
 the recommendation before us does

01:18:55.920 --> 01:18:58.536
include  an additional budget

01:18:58.560 --> 01:19:01.560
allocation. So, but my understanding

01:19:01.760 --> 01:19:03.896
reading  this paper is that that is

01:19:03.920 --> 01:19:05.896
commensurate based on service

01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:08.536
improvements as well as also the ability

01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:10.456
to audit the performance to make sure

01:19:10.480 --> 01:19:12.135
we're getting the performance we expect

01:19:12.159 --> 01:19:15.016
out of the contract. Is that correct?

01:19:15.040 --> 01:19:17.336
Is that for you Lachlan?

01:19:17.360 --> 01:19:19.336
 through you may miss. Yes, councelor

01:19:19.360 --> 01:19:21.736
Min as you point out  this contract

01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:24.376
exceeds council's budget.  as the

01:19:24.400 --> 01:19:27.400
report outlines um there's a one-off 

01:19:28.560 --> 01:19:30.536
increase this year required to pay for

01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:32.856
those transition activities that I 

01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:34.936
just spoke about my answer to the mayor.

01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:37.096
In addition to that, the ongoing costs

01:19:37.120 --> 01:19:39.496
to deliver the maintenance of our open

01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:41.736
space and the trees, the next report the

01:19:41.760 --> 01:19:43.816
council will consider both exceed the

01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:46.840
budget. Um so what the report that

01:19:47.360 --> 01:19:49.336
you're going the resolution that you've

01:19:49.360 --> 01:19:51.256
got in front of you there says is that

01:19:51.280 --> 01:19:54.280
there's an increase this year um to the

01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:57.560
$106,000 to pay for those works. Um the

01:19:58.719 --> 01:20:00.936
ongoing increase will be considered as

01:20:00.960 --> 01:20:03.496
part of council's budget process. So in

01:20:03.520 --> 01:20:05.336
the coming month you will look at the

01:20:05.360 --> 01:20:06.695
financial outlook and then you'll

01:20:06.719 --> 01:20:09.719
prepare  to build your 2627 budget 

01:20:10.400 --> 01:20:12.296
and there'll be the opportunity there 

01:20:12.320 --> 01:20:14.135
to look at how that can be delivered. So

01:20:14.159 --> 01:20:17.096
either through a combination of 

01:20:17.120 --> 01:20:19.655
efficiencies, savings  or rep

01:20:19.679 --> 01:20:22.135
prioritization.

01:20:22.159 --> 01:20:24.376
Councelor Jay, did you have a question

01:20:24.400 --> 01:20:26.215
that was answered?

01:20:26.239 --> 01:20:28.695
Okay.  all right, you follow up.

01:20:28.719 --> 01:20:31.719
Yep. So  part of this is the move to a

01:20:32.239 --> 01:20:34.456
frequency based contract. I understand

01:20:34.480 --> 01:20:36.536
that will give greater audit trails so

01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:37.896
that we can once again measure

01:20:37.920 --> 01:20:40.920
performance and ensure that community

01:20:40.960 --> 01:20:42.616
expectations are being met through the

01:20:42.640 --> 01:20:44.536
delivery of this contract. Can we talk

01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:45.655
through what that looks like?

01:20:45.679 --> 01:20:46.776
Yeah.

01:20:46.800 --> 01:20:49.800
 sorry Lachlan you may I might I might

01:20:50.400 --> 01:20:52.296
have a go and then hand over to Shane

01:20:52.320 --> 01:20:53.976
Walden who might be able to speak a

01:20:54.000 --> 01:20:56.056
little bit more about this.

01:20:56.080 --> 01:20:57.976
So as part of this process, we undertook

01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:00.456
a complete review of our specification

01:21:00.480 --> 01:21:02.056
to see whether it was fit for purpose

01:21:02.080 --> 01:21:04.135
and see whether it was working well.

01:21:04.159 --> 01:21:05.655
We've had feedback from the community

01:21:05.679 --> 01:21:07.816
over a number of years about some issues

01:21:07.840 --> 01:21:09.976
that we've had. So particularly around

01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:12.135
 maintenance of DTP assets that

01:21:12.159 --> 01:21:14.616
council's taken on  and also we had a

01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:15.976
lot of feedback around our maintenance

01:21:16.000 --> 01:21:18.616
of our rain gardens and weed control in

01:21:18.640 --> 01:21:21.640
laneways. So, we've redesigned the

01:21:22.480 --> 01:21:25.016
contract to go away from a an

01:21:25.040 --> 01:21:26.376
outcomebased contract, which is

01:21:26.400 --> 01:21:28.456
effectively keep the grass this tall,

01:21:28.480 --> 01:21:30.456
mow it as much as you need to, to

01:21:30.480 --> 01:21:31.816
something that's highly prescriptive

01:21:31.840 --> 01:21:34.056
that says that each month the grass

01:21:34.080 --> 01:21:36.776
needs to be mine. Um, so the great thing

01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:39.336
about doing that is it's incredibly um

01:21:39.360 --> 01:21:41.816
easy to tell whether the contractor is

01:21:41.840 --> 01:21:44.840
completing their works um and hold them

01:21:44.880 --> 01:21:47.416
accountable for that. that focus on

01:21:47.440 --> 01:21:49.816
scheduled work, programmed maintenance

01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:51.816
will hopefully result in a a reduction

01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:54.135
in the community um needing to tell

01:21:54.159 --> 01:21:55.816
council and request things from us. But

01:21:55.840 --> 01:21:57.256
I might hand over to Shane if he's got

01:21:57.280 --> 01:21:58.856
anything further to add to how we

01:21:58.880 --> 01:21:59.416
structured.

01:21:59.440 --> 01:21:59.896
Thanks.

01:21:59.920 --> 01:22:00.936
Contract.

01:22:00.960 --> 01:22:03.256
 through you, mayor. Probably the

01:22:03.280 --> 01:22:05.096
other thing to provide some confidence

01:22:05.120 --> 01:22:08.120
for community and for counselors is that

01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:11.016
there is that audit trail. There's also

01:22:11.040 --> 01:22:13.496
key performance indicators and the

01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:16.520
ability to be able to control what the

01:22:16.880 --> 01:22:19.416
contractor is doing. Also, if they don't

01:22:19.440 --> 01:22:21.496
complete the work with this contract,

01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:23.896
they don't get paid. Under the previous

01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:24.936
contract, because it was

01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:26.536
performance-based, they got a regular

01:22:26.560 --> 01:22:29.096
payment each month regardless of whether

01:22:29.120 --> 01:22:31.416
um they completed all the works or not.

01:22:31.440 --> 01:22:33.256
Additionally, we've got auditors that

01:22:33.280 --> 01:22:34.856
are going to be in place and who are

01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:36.456
going to be checking up on the work that

01:22:36.480 --> 01:22:39.096
was done. For example, if the work's

01:22:39.120 --> 01:22:41.175
supposed to be done every two weeks,

01:22:41.199 --> 01:22:42.615
we're going to be issuing a work order

01:22:42.639 --> 01:22:44.936
for when that work gets done. Within a

01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:47.096
day or two of when that work was to be

01:22:47.120 --> 01:22:48.936
done, we could be out there auditing it.

01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:50.536
And if it's not done, we can be holding

01:22:50.560 --> 01:22:53.560
them accountable.

01:22:54.639 --> 01:22:57.175
Any other questions, councilors?

01:22:57.199 --> 01:22:58.456
If not, we have an officer's

01:22:58.480 --> 01:23:00.215
recommendation. Do we have this or

01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:01.496
something else? Who's going to move it

01:23:01.520 --> 01:23:04.520
for me? Council Holiday again. And who

01:23:04.800 --> 01:23:07.496
would like to second it? Council Min,

01:23:07.520 --> 01:23:10.520
Council Holiday.

01:23:11.120 --> 01:23:14.120
, I'm an outdoor enthusiast. Um, and

01:23:16.239 --> 01:23:19.239
once again, um, I would like to, um,

01:23:21.199 --> 01:23:23.655
compliment the officers on the rigor

01:23:23.679 --> 01:23:26.679
that has gone into this contract and the

01:23:27.120 --> 01:23:28.615
next one that we're going to talk about.

01:23:28.639 --> 01:23:31.496
Um, they have taken the learnings of our

01:23:31.520 --> 01:23:33.896
previous um, of our previous

01:23:33.920 --> 01:23:36.296
engagements. They have taken the

01:23:36.320 --> 01:23:39.320
feedback um from our community members

01:23:39.440 --> 01:23:42.215
and they have embedded that into the

01:23:42.239 --> 01:23:45.239
negotiations and we see that here in the

01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:48.615
contract and I hope that we see this out

01:23:48.639 --> 01:23:51.496
on our our nature strips and our parks

01:23:51.520 --> 01:23:54.520
um over the next  was it 11 years um

01:23:55.760 --> 01:23:58.760
up to 11 years.  so I think this is an

01:23:59.280 --> 01:24:01.256
excellent contract um and I look forward

01:24:01.280 --> 01:24:04.280
to um us seeing these  the the uptick

01:24:05.199 --> 01:24:06.695
in performance that we can expect from

01:24:06.719 --> 01:24:08.615
these new vendors.

01:24:08.639 --> 01:24:10.376
Thank you council Min.

01:24:10.400 --> 01:24:12.215
Echoing  my colleague councelor

01:24:12.239 --> 01:24:13.576
Holidayiday. I look forward to the

01:24:13.600 --> 01:24:16.376
service level uptake. You know it's up

01:24:16.400 --> 01:24:17.816
to the the community keeps us

01:24:17.840 --> 01:24:19.096
accountable. We should be keeping our

01:24:19.120 --> 01:24:21.576
contractors accountable. the audit trail

01:24:21.600 --> 01:24:23.976
and the ability to measure performance

01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:25.336
and if you don't deliver that

01:24:25.360 --> 01:24:27.016
performance you don't get paid is a

01:24:27.040 --> 01:24:28.456
great incentive to ensure that our

01:24:28.480 --> 01:24:30.856
contractors deliver the work that our

01:24:30.880 --> 01:24:33.416
community rightfully expects. So I have

01:24:33.440 --> 01:24:35.256
a level of confidence  in this

01:24:35.280 --> 01:24:37.576
recommendation and I thank the work and

01:24:37.600 --> 01:24:39.256
the fact that we have this rigor around

01:24:39.280 --> 01:24:41.896
it to ensure that our community knows

01:24:41.920 --> 01:24:43.976
what to expect and can expect it to be

01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:46.215
delivered through council and through

01:24:46.239 --> 01:24:48.376
our contractors. Happy to support this

01:24:48.400 --> 01:24:51.096
motion. Any other council wish to speak

01:24:51.120 --> 01:24:54.120
to it? Councelor Jay,

01:24:54.320 --> 01:24:56.296
we've issued a lot of money tonight in

01:24:56.320 --> 01:24:59.320
contracts. Um, I will support this.

01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:01.496
There's been so many conversations and

01:25:01.520 --> 01:25:03.576
briefings behind closed doors. One thing

01:25:03.600 --> 01:25:06.056
that this council group has in common is

01:25:06.080 --> 01:25:08.056
we want  value for money and we want

01:25:08.080 --> 01:25:11.080
quality. Um, we want to see an uplift as

01:25:11.920 --> 01:25:13.655
the residents have told all of us. They

01:25:13.679 --> 01:25:15.496
want an uplift in the streets. They want

01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:18.296
an uplift in the parks. They want um 

01:25:18.320 --> 01:25:19.976
better performance with their rubbish.

01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:23.000
And we truly believe and time will be um

01:25:23.760 --> 01:25:25.416
time will tell, but we truly believe

01:25:25.440 --> 01:25:28.440
that this contract will deliver more for

01:25:28.560 --> 01:25:30.215
the community. And you can, you know,

01:25:30.239 --> 01:25:31.816
even hear it with the officers. We've

01:25:31.840 --> 01:25:34.840
got checks and balances in place. and we

01:25:34.880 --> 01:25:37.880
um you the residents are are paying this

01:25:38.639 --> 01:25:40.695
money and we are ensuring that we're

01:25:40.719 --> 01:25:42.376
getting value for money. So I will

01:25:42.400 --> 01:25:45.175
support this. Thank you.

01:25:45.199 --> 01:25:48.199
Any other counselor? Councelor Hardy.

01:25:49.679 --> 01:25:51.976
I'm sure the residents of the Albert

01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:55.000
Park ward will will gladly love an

01:25:55.600 --> 01:25:56.856
improvement in the maintenance of the

01:25:56.880 --> 01:25:59.816
rain gardens, the autumn leaf drop, and

01:25:59.840 --> 01:26:01.655
as well as the pollen clearance during

01:26:01.679 --> 01:26:04.615
spring. Thank you. Any

01:26:04.639 --> 01:26:07.016
other counselor?

01:26:07.040 --> 01:26:10.040
I'll briefly speak. Um I think the thing

01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:11.976
that I've noticed over the last decade

01:26:12.000 --> 01:26:14.536
is that the approach to managing assets,

01:26:14.560 --> 01:26:15.976
whatever they may be, has got more

01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:17.736
sophisticated. Whether it's technology,

01:26:17.760 --> 01:26:19.175
whether it's thinking, it really has

01:26:19.199 --> 01:26:21.896
grown. And I think um this contract is a

01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:24.376
reflection of of that kind of maturity

01:26:24.400 --> 01:26:26.296
and sophistication and how we think

01:26:26.320 --> 01:26:28.456
about looking after our various assets.

01:26:28.480 --> 01:26:30.856
in this this um particular case and

01:26:30.880 --> 01:26:32.456
obviously the trees next one are open

01:26:32.480 --> 01:26:34.695
space. So I I feel reassured and

01:26:34.719 --> 01:26:36.536
especially that long transition po um

01:26:36.560 --> 01:26:39.560
crossover I think that is a good oneoff

01:26:39.760 --> 01:26:42.760
um price to pay to ensure that um you

01:26:43.600 --> 01:26:46.215
know that that that we it goes smoothly

01:26:46.239 --> 01:26:49.096
but also then we are really reassured as

01:26:49.120 --> 01:26:51.175
a counselor group that what we're going

01:26:51.199 --> 01:26:54.135
to get is is is valuable. Um so that's

01:26:54.159 --> 01:26:55.256
really all I want to say. I think the

01:26:55.280 --> 01:26:57.655
it's a sophisticated contract and I'm

01:26:57.679 --> 01:26:59.976
really glad to see that with the extra

01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:03.000
auditing. So, thank you to officers.

01:27:03.440 --> 01:27:05.416
Any other counselor or should we just go

01:27:05.440 --> 01:27:07.896
to the vote? Let's go to the vote. I'm

01:27:07.920 --> 01:27:09.416
getting the deputy mayor's tell me go to

01:27:09.440 --> 01:27:11.816
the vote. All those in favour, all those

01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:13.976
against that is carried unanimously.

01:27:14.000 --> 01:27:15.976
Now, I have had a request council. I'm

01:27:16.000 --> 01:27:17.096
just going to check with you that we

01:27:17.120 --> 01:27:19.816
could do 10.2 and 10.3 before the break

01:27:19.840 --> 01:27:21.576
to allow certain officers to go home.

01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:23.256
So, are we okay with that? I think

01:27:23.280 --> 01:27:24.695
there's a lot of similar questions we

01:27:24.719 --> 01:27:26.695
may ask. So, let's move to 10.2, which

01:27:26.719 --> 01:27:28.215
is the contract award for tree

01:27:28.239 --> 01:27:31.239
maintenance and management. Councelor J

01:27:31.280 --> 01:27:33.816
is a question.

01:27:33.840 --> 01:27:36.056
Um, we get many messages from our

01:27:36.080 --> 01:27:38.456
residents wanting trees replaced. When a

01:27:38.480 --> 01:27:40.456
tree's been removed or damaged or

01:27:40.480 --> 01:27:43.480
broken, um, , they they they want it

01:27:43.760 --> 01:27:45.416
replaced. We love our trees. We don't

01:27:45.440 --> 01:27:48.440
have a lot of it. Um, will this contract

01:27:49.360 --> 01:27:52.360
um  will this contract affect

01:27:52.719 --> 01:27:54.856
the the rate and the process of

01:27:54.880 --> 01:27:57.880
replacing our trees?

01:27:58.880 --> 01:28:01.016
Lachlan Johnson

01:28:01.040 --> 01:28:03.096
through you may thank you councelor Jay

01:28:03.120 --> 01:28:05.096
for your question. So this contract is

01:28:05.120 --> 01:28:06.615
due to commence on the 1st of April

01:28:06.639 --> 01:28:08.776
which is when our planting program

01:28:08.800 --> 01:28:11.736
commences. Um so our planting season

01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:14.760
commences. So  we in advance of this

01:28:15.679 --> 01:28:18.456
contract in parallel officers are

01:28:18.480 --> 01:28:20.456
collecting those requests from the

01:28:20.480 --> 01:28:23.480
community  for tree planting um and

01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:25.736
identifying other opportunities for

01:28:25.760 --> 01:28:28.456
infill planting. We will separately

01:28:28.480 --> 01:28:30.856
order the trees the species and then we

01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:32.695
will provide them to this contractor so

01:28:32.719 --> 01:28:34.695
that when they start they'll be able to

01:28:34.719 --> 01:28:37.416
start planting straight away. Um so

01:28:37.440 --> 01:28:39.336
that's how we're managing the transition

01:28:39.360 --> 01:28:41.416
for this particular contract. this

01:28:41.440 --> 01:28:43.816
contract does like with the open space

01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:46.056
contract has been subject to significant

01:28:46.080 --> 01:28:47.896
review. One of the things that we did

01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:50.920
look at was  how it aligns with

01:28:50.960 --> 01:28:53.016
council's recently adopted urban forest

01:28:53.040 --> 01:28:55.496
strategy which has aspirations to

01:28:55.520 --> 01:28:57.976
significant targets to significantly

01:28:58.000 --> 01:29:00.615
increase canopy coverage across the

01:29:00.639 --> 01:29:03.496
city. So the con the specification

01:29:03.520 --> 01:29:05.175
includes a completely different

01:29:05.199 --> 01:29:08.056
obligations around tree planting

01:29:08.080 --> 01:29:10.135
collection of that data formative

01:29:10.159 --> 01:29:13.159
pruning and about um the works that are

01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:15.816
well the watering program  to help

01:29:15.840 --> 01:29:18.840
those trees um establish during hot

01:29:19.360 --> 01:29:22.360
periods as well. So this  contract

01:29:23.600 --> 01:29:25.016
should help council to be able to

01:29:25.040 --> 01:29:27.655
deliver on those targets.

01:29:27.679 --> 01:29:30.056
Any other questions? question, councelor

01:29:30.080 --> 01:29:31.096
Holidayiday.

01:29:31.120 --> 01:29:32.695
, thank you, mayor. , quick

01:29:32.719 --> 01:29:35.576
question. When we're talking about um

01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:38.600
tree planting, who who chooses what

01:29:38.880 --> 01:29:41.416
trees we plant where? Is it the vendor

01:29:41.440 --> 01:29:44.296
here or is it our own internal arborists

01:29:44.320 --> 01:29:46.776
and team who select the species of the

01:29:46.800 --> 01:29:48.615
trees?

01:29:48.639 --> 01:29:50.215
Who?

01:29:50.239 --> 01:29:52.296
, through you, Mayor. Greg's informed

01:29:52.320 --> 01:29:55.320
me that it's us. Um, so we we do have

01:29:55.679 --> 01:29:58.215
planting Palaiss in some areas. know

01:29:58.239 --> 01:29:59.736
some work under our urban forest

01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:02.135
strategy to create some more planting

01:30:02.159 --> 01:30:04.536
Palaiss to make it easier to work out

01:30:04.560 --> 01:30:06.456
which trees go there but  council

01:30:06.480 --> 01:30:09.096
officers um indicate to the contractor

01:30:09.120 --> 01:30:11.016
has to procure or source them and then

01:30:11.040 --> 01:30:13.336
plant them.

01:30:13.360 --> 01:30:15.336
Any other question council min?

01:30:15.360 --> 01:30:16.615
Similar question to the previous

01:30:16.639 --> 01:30:18.296
contract, but what assurances do we have

01:30:18.320 --> 01:30:20.056
that this contractor will deliver the

01:30:20.080 --> 01:30:21.655
work that they contracted out to and how

01:30:21.679 --> 01:30:23.655
do we measure and evaluate and order

01:30:23.679 --> 01:30:24.936
their performance?

01:30:24.960 --> 01:30:26.536
Is that Shane?

01:30:26.560 --> 01:30:27.896
Through you, Mayor and thank you for the

01:30:27.920 --> 01:30:30.615
question. Um, so as with the open space

01:30:30.639 --> 01:30:33.639
contract, we've got um KPIs in place to

01:30:34.239 --> 01:30:36.536
hold the contractor accountable for.

01:30:36.560 --> 01:30:38.776
We're also issuing the work orders, so

01:30:38.800 --> 01:30:41.016
we're issuing the work when it should be

01:30:41.040 --> 01:30:44.040
done. Um there's a process by which

01:30:44.159 --> 01:30:45.976
there's first inspections going on

01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:47.576
through the block clearances and

01:30:47.600 --> 01:30:49.496
approval of the works that are required

01:30:49.520 --> 01:30:51.175
as a result of those inspections and

01:30:51.199 --> 01:30:53.736
then the work being undertaken. Again,

01:30:53.760 --> 01:30:55.336
we've got auditors who will be going out

01:30:55.360 --> 01:30:57.576
into the field and they'll be doing a

01:30:57.600 --> 01:31:00.536
sample of the work to confirm that it's

01:31:00.560 --> 01:31:02.296
being done. Not just that it's being

01:31:02.320 --> 01:31:03.896
done, but it's being done to the right

01:31:03.920 --> 01:31:06.056
standard. And so if that's around power

01:31:06.080 --> 01:31:07.336
lines, making sure that we've got the

01:31:07.360 --> 01:31:09.175
clearances in place around power lines,

01:31:09.199 --> 01:31:10.776
but also making sure that it's meeting

01:31:10.800 --> 01:31:12.856
the amenity guidelines for pruning as

01:31:12.880 --> 01:31:14.456
well

01:31:14.480 --> 01:31:17.096
as part of the ongoing meeting

01:31:17.120 --> 01:31:20.056
schedules. Those KPIs are reviewed and

01:31:20.080 --> 01:31:21.976
there's a certain threshold that they

01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:23.496
need to meet and if they're not meeting

01:31:23.520 --> 01:31:25.016
it, then there's things we can put in

01:31:25.040 --> 01:31:27.016
place to hold them accountable again. If

01:31:27.040 --> 01:31:29.096
they don't complete that work again,

01:31:29.120 --> 01:31:31.336
they don't get paid. If they don't do

01:31:31.360 --> 01:31:33.336
the work to the right quality, they'll

01:31:33.360 --> 01:31:35.576
have to go back redo that work until

01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:37.016
they and then they won't get paid until

01:31:37.040 --> 01:31:40.040
it's complete. Thank you,

01:31:40.400 --> 01:31:41.816
Council Holiday.

01:31:41.840 --> 01:31:43.175
, thank you, Mayor. Just quick follow

01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:46.199
up there. , Lachlan, you mentioned um

01:31:46.239 --> 01:31:47.736
the

01:31:47.760 --> 01:31:50.760
that we have a a Palais of trees. I'm

01:31:50.800 --> 01:31:52.296
just wondering just sorry to be super

01:31:52.320 --> 01:31:55.320
specific here. Do we do we specify the

01:31:56.880 --> 01:31:59.880
particular species that gets planted at

01:32:00.159 --> 01:32:03.159
each plot or do we specify a Palais for

01:32:03.199 --> 01:32:05.496
an area from which the vendor can

01:32:05.520 --> 01:32:07.816
select?

01:32:07.840 --> 01:32:09.256
Lachlan

01:32:09.280 --> 01:32:10.936
 through May Greg is telling me that

01:32:10.960 --> 01:32:13.960
we um  specify the species. Okay. Any

01:32:15.679 --> 01:32:17.496
further questions or can we do we have a

01:32:17.520 --> 01:32:19.256
mover and a seconder? Councelor

01:32:19.280 --> 01:32:22.280
Buckingham to move councelor

01:32:22.639 --> 01:32:25.336
Tomand a second. All right. Coun council

01:32:25.360 --> 01:32:27.416
Buckingham.

01:32:27.440 --> 01:32:30.376
Thank you. I'm very pleased to move 

01:32:30.400 --> 01:32:32.215
this recommendation and for this

01:32:32.239 --> 01:32:35.175
contract tonight.  the management of

01:32:35.199 --> 01:32:38.199
our trees is one of the most  regular

01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:43.000
and common conversations I have with

01:32:43.199 --> 01:32:46.199
residents about how we um maintain our

01:32:47.679 --> 01:32:50.215
current trees and how we plan and um

01:32:50.239 --> 01:32:53.239
plant our future trees. And we've got

01:32:54.159 --> 01:32:57.159
very ambitious targets at this council

01:32:57.360 --> 01:33:00.296
 to achieve 30% tree canopy. And we've

01:33:00.320 --> 01:33:03.175
just recently approved our first

01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:05.816
neighborhood plan. And so this the

01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:07.416
delivery of this contract is going to be

01:33:07.440 --> 01:33:09.416
crucial to us achieving the aspirations

01:33:09.440 --> 01:33:12.215
of those of that plan.

01:33:12.239 --> 01:33:14.695
There's nothing, as we heard earlier

01:33:14.719 --> 01:33:16.615
tonight, there's nothing worse for local

01:33:16.639 --> 01:33:19.256
residents to see a tree planted and

01:33:19.280 --> 01:33:22.280
fail. um and bringing in expertise and

01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:27.560
investing resources into our existing

01:33:28.639 --> 01:33:31.639
trees and our new trees is incredibly

01:33:32.480 --> 01:33:34.456
important for our environment but also

01:33:34.480 --> 01:33:36.456
the well-being of our community. So,

01:33:36.480 --> 01:33:39.480
it's with great pleasure that I  move

01:33:39.679 --> 01:33:42.536
this motion tonight.

01:33:42.560 --> 01:33:45.560
, councelor Timman,

01:33:45.679 --> 01:33:48.679
open spaces, trees and our beaches are

01:33:49.440 --> 01:33:52.440
obviously very important to u us and to

01:33:52.560 --> 01:33:55.560
our residents and  um and it's you

01:33:56.080 --> 01:33:57.655
know looking at all these figures you

01:33:57.679 --> 01:33:59.416
know it's millions of dollars that we

01:33:59.440 --> 01:34:02.440
are committing for the next  few years

01:34:03.120 --> 01:34:06.120
um again  looking at the

01:34:06.320 --> 01:34:07.816
recommendation

01:34:07.840 --> 01:34:10.840
 of all three contracts   I can

01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:13.496
say that our officers have done a great

01:34:13.520 --> 01:34:16.456
job um trying to get the best value and

01:34:16.480 --> 01:34:18.056
the best service for our city. So, thank

01:34:18.080 --> 01:34:21.080
you for that and  I commend  this

01:34:22.159 --> 01:34:25.159
contract to my colleagues.

01:34:25.679 --> 01:34:27.096
Okay. Did you want to speak Council

01:34:27.120 --> 01:34:29.416
Holiday? Did you think you seconded?

01:34:29.440 --> 01:34:32.056
I did think I I missed the  I missed

01:34:32.080 --> 01:34:34.936
the boat on that one. Um

01:34:34.960 --> 01:34:37.960
I've um it has been actually one of the

01:34:39.360 --> 01:34:42.360
um pleasures of being elected to council

01:34:42.800 --> 01:34:45.800
 has been to be part of the process of

01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:49.960
um the  precincts  plans for our for

01:34:51.840 --> 01:34:54.376
reaching our canopy targets, the um

01:34:54.400 --> 01:34:56.536
development and adoption of our urban

01:34:56.560 --> 01:34:59.016
forest strategy. And here the kind of

01:34:59.040 --> 01:35:02.040
final leg in that stool of the um of the

01:35:02.639 --> 01:35:05.639
 the contract here for the vendors who

01:35:05.679 --> 01:35:08.679
are going to support this work. Um I

01:35:09.280 --> 01:35:11.175
have a very enthusiastic community

01:35:11.199 --> 01:35:14.199
member who also um commends the council

01:35:14.719 --> 01:35:17.719
officers um for all of your work um on

01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:21.560
this contract um especially around those

01:35:22.400 --> 01:35:25.400
protections for the early nurturing of

01:35:25.600 --> 01:35:27.976
the trees. I think those were important

01:35:28.000 --> 01:35:30.856
um changes to this contract which will

01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:33.880
 you know um see better um survival

01:35:34.239 --> 01:35:37.239
rates for our trees.  and finally um I

01:35:39.120 --> 01:35:41.336
just look forward to us getting to April

01:35:41.360 --> 01:35:43.816
and getting more trees in the ground

01:35:43.840 --> 01:35:46.840
next year and seeing this work um this

01:35:46.880 --> 01:35:48.856
work underway. Um last thing I was going

01:35:48.880 --> 01:35:50.936
to say just um taking up Libbyy's point

01:35:50.960 --> 01:35:53.016
there. I think it's heartbreaking when a

01:35:53.040 --> 01:35:56.040
tree is removed or dies at the at the

01:35:57.600 --> 01:35:59.736
front of your house or down the street.

01:35:59.760 --> 01:36:02.760
You know, there's um for me when I walk

01:36:02.800 --> 01:36:05.800
down the street, I notice the gap in the

01:36:06.000 --> 01:36:09.000
foliage and the canopy. Um and that

01:36:09.280 --> 01:36:12.056
stays with me all the time. Um so I hope

01:36:12.080 --> 01:36:14.376
that um through this we can have more

01:36:14.400 --> 01:36:16.936
people having more tree canopy in their

01:36:16.960 --> 01:36:19.960
streets, but also um better protecting

01:36:20.000 --> 01:36:22.135
our trees. um through the course of

01:36:22.159 --> 01:36:24.456
their lives um and our lives here in the

01:36:24.480 --> 01:36:27.480
city. Um so once again um happy to

01:36:27.920 --> 01:36:30.856
support this.

01:36:30.880 --> 01:36:32.776
Any other councelor wish to speak to the

01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:35.096
motion? Councelor Jay,

01:36:35.120 --> 01:36:38.120
I'll be quick. It's a long night. Um I

01:36:38.159 --> 01:36:41.159
support so long day. Um I absolutely

01:36:42.239 --> 01:36:44.135
support this. Trees are important to our

01:36:44.159 --> 01:36:46.376
community. I live just off Stilder Road.

01:36:46.400 --> 01:36:47.976
There's not a lot of greenery around

01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:50.135
there. So, this is something that we're

01:36:50.159 --> 01:36:53.016
very passionate about. , we do expect

01:36:53.040 --> 01:36:55.175
the community to let us know how the

01:36:55.199 --> 01:36:57.016
contracts are going once they kick in.

01:36:57.040 --> 01:37:00.040
And I think you are the best um 

01:37:00.639 --> 01:37:03.576
judges of this and and you will let us

01:37:03.600 --> 01:37:05.336
know. I just want all the residents to

01:37:05.360 --> 01:37:07.896
know is that we heard you. It's only our

01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:10.536
first year. We may not be raising notice

01:37:10.560 --> 01:37:12.296
of motions all the time, but we are

01:37:12.320 --> 01:37:13.896
doing a lot in the background to make

01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:15.496
sure that you're being heard. Whether

01:37:15.520 --> 01:37:17.496
it's about, you know, the frequency of

01:37:17.520 --> 01:37:19.655
your rubbish or as Justin said, just

01:37:19.679 --> 01:37:21.736
missing canopy and missing trees or not

01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:24.056
being watered, no problem is too big or

01:37:24.080 --> 01:37:26.615
too small. And this is,

01:37:26.639 --> 01:37:28.615
you know, these contracts should the

01:37:28.639 --> 01:37:30.536
uplift in our community should be

01:37:30.560 --> 01:37:32.615
reflected in these contracts and and and

01:37:32.639 --> 01:37:35.639
we await your your review. So, thank

01:37:35.679 --> 01:37:37.576
you,

01:37:37.600 --> 01:37:40.600
Council Hardy.

01:37:40.719 --> 01:37:43.336
Section 9, community impact 9.2. A QE

01:37:43.360 --> 01:37:45.256
focus for the new contract is to focus

01:37:45.280 --> 01:37:47.175
heavily on the delivery of the scheduled

01:37:47.199 --> 01:37:49.256
inspection and trimming program and

01:37:49.280 --> 01:37:50.856
setting those frequencies to meet

01:37:50.880 --> 01:37:53.655
community expectations. The intent being

01:37:53.679 --> 01:37:56.615
that better proactive and cycl cyclical

01:37:56.639 --> 01:37:58.615
maintenance will reduce the need for the

01:37:58.639 --> 01:38:01.256
community to contact council and the

01:38:01.280 --> 01:38:04.280
Albert Park ward counselor. Hallelujah.

01:38:04.960 --> 01:38:07.960
Hallelujah. Thank you.

01:38:08.320 --> 01:38:11.095
Any other speakers to the motion? as

01:38:11.119 --> 01:38:11.976
well.

01:38:12.000 --> 01:38:13.816
Just echoing once again that performance

01:38:13.840 --> 01:38:16.456
uplift, that ability to audit and 

01:38:16.480 --> 01:38:17.736
assess the performance of our

01:38:17.760 --> 01:38:19.336
contractors. If you don't do the job,

01:38:19.360 --> 01:38:20.695
you don't get paid is a very good

01:38:20.719 --> 01:38:23.095
mentality in  ensuring that our

01:38:23.119 --> 01:38:24.936
contractors are accountable and ensuring

01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:27.960
that  we represent the interests of

01:38:28.080 --> 01:38:29.976
our community who want trees, who want

01:38:30.000 --> 01:38:33.000
canopy, and want to see vibrant foliage

01:38:33.600 --> 01:38:35.736
in our community.

01:38:35.760 --> 01:38:37.016
I'm going to briefly speak. I think

01:38:37.040 --> 01:38:38.376
there are some council areas that would

01:38:38.400 --> 01:38:40.376
kill for our current canopy cover

01:38:40.400 --> 01:38:42.776
coverage. Um, and I know that we are um

01:38:42.800 --> 01:38:44.296
aiming for more, but I think I've got a

01:38:44.320 --> 01:38:45.896
theme tonight. As much as these

01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:47.416
contracts can do so much, we need

01:38:47.440 --> 01:38:49.416
community to do it with us. With more

01:38:49.440 --> 01:38:51.816
trees come more leaves and there is not

01:38:51.840 --> 01:38:54.215
enough street sweepers to get them. So

01:38:54.239 --> 01:38:57.095
perhaps there's that old school thinking

01:38:57.119 --> 01:38:59.016
where we used to all just sweep up and

01:38:59.040 --> 01:39:00.615
take care of the litter and leaves in

01:39:00.639 --> 01:39:03.639
front of our shop or our 5 m of 

01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:06.056
residential frontage. that it is a

01:39:06.080 --> 01:39:07.655
collective effort. You've got Fogo bins

01:39:07.679 --> 01:39:09.976
to put them in now. Um we will not be

01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:12.296
able to keep up pick up every leaf, but

01:39:12.320 --> 01:39:14.296
in in the growing of the foliage and the

01:39:14.320 --> 01:39:16.536
cooling and the beauty that our city

01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:18.456
already has and will increase, we do

01:39:18.480 --> 01:39:20.776
need to make it a collective effort. 

01:39:20.800 --> 01:39:22.695
it is not just a contract that will

01:39:22.719 --> 01:39:24.215
deliver that. So, um thank you to the

01:39:24.239 --> 01:39:26.056
officers for the contract. But again, my

01:39:26.080 --> 01:39:29.080
theme tonight, it's do it all together.

01:39:29.280 --> 01:39:31.256
Do I have any other speakers or can I

01:39:31.280 --> 01:39:34.056
can I return to councelor Buckingham?

01:39:34.080 --> 01:39:36.376
Council Buckingham. No close. Let's put

01:39:36.400 --> 01:39:38.135
that to the vote. All those in favour,

01:39:38.159 --> 01:39:41.095
that is carried unanimously. Thank you.

01:39:41.119 --> 01:39:42.695
We are going to take It's always a

01:39:42.719 --> 01:39:43.976
10-minute break. So, it's a 10-minute

01:39:44.000 --> 01:39:46.056
break. Um, so officers can go home and

01:39:46.080 --> 01:39:47.256
then we'll come

01:39:47.280 --> 01:39:49.336
No, it's different offices.

01:39:49.360 --> 01:39:50.615
Yep. So, I'm going to take a 10-minute

01:39:50.639 --> 01:39:53.639
break to do that.

01:39:54.480 --> 01:39:56.456
Okay, folks. We're going to resume

01:39:56.480 --> 01:39:59.480
council. So, if everyone

01:39:59.840 --> 01:40:02.615
could get settled again. We are at item

01:40:02.639 --> 01:40:05.639
10.3 which is the contract award

01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:08.135
RFT0347

01:40:08.159 --> 01:40:11.159
to Middle Park Beach Renourishment.

01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:13.175
Do we have any questions for the

01:40:13.199 --> 01:40:16.199
officers in regards to this one?

01:40:19.040 --> 01:40:21.175
No. If we don't have any questions,

01:40:21.199 --> 01:40:22.456
could I have a mover in a sec? Councelor

01:40:22.480 --> 01:40:25.480
Tomman, is that a question or a move?

01:40:25.600 --> 01:40:26.856
Question.

01:40:26.880 --> 01:40:29.416
 um we're talking about the Middle

01:40:29.440 --> 01:40:31.896
Park beach here.  are there any

01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:34.536
programs for the other beaches of in the

01:40:34.560 --> 01:40:37.256
city of Bford

01:40:37.280 --> 01:40:39.175
at Tillio or Kamani or is that you

01:40:39.199 --> 01:40:42.199
Lachlan

01:40:42.320 --> 01:40:44.615
 through me? I actually don't know. Um

01:40:44.639 --> 01:40:47.639
so CEO do

01:40:48.159 --> 01:40:51.095
I think I can answer that. No

01:40:51.119 --> 01:40:52.456
CEO

01:40:52.480 --> 01:40:54.936
not that I'm aware of. We um we're

01:40:54.960 --> 01:40:57.576
advocating though at the moment

01:40:57.600 --> 01:41:00.376
um particularly around Elwood for um as

01:41:00.400 --> 01:41:02.536
well. So we are noticing that there's

01:41:02.560 --> 01:41:04.856
some issues from time to time. There is

01:41:04.880 --> 01:41:07.736
no dedicated ongoing funding from state

01:41:07.760 --> 01:41:08.695
government. This has been an

01:41:08.719 --> 01:41:10.536
opportunistic grant that we've received

01:41:10.560 --> 01:41:13.175
and we continue to advocate for funding

01:41:13.199 --> 01:41:15.896
support. Um it's obviously weather

01:41:15.920 --> 01:41:18.920
dependent and condition dependent but um

01:41:19.760 --> 01:41:22.760
yeah we we I'm not aware of any other

01:41:22.960 --> 01:41:24.856
funded programs at this stage but we

01:41:24.880 --> 01:41:26.296
will continue to look and mon and

01:41:26.320 --> 01:41:29.175
advocate for that.

01:41:29.199 --> 01:41:31.496
Any other questions?

01:41:31.520 --> 01:41:33.095
Oh did you want to move this council

01:41:33.119 --> 01:41:34.776
Hardy? Great. That's what the commotion

01:41:34.800 --> 01:41:36.215
was. Fantastic. And councelor

01:41:36.239 --> 01:41:38.296
consolidate second. All right councelor

01:41:38.320 --> 01:41:41.320
Hardy speak to the motion

01:41:42.080 --> 01:41:43.736
just quickly. The Middle Park Beach is

01:41:43.760 --> 01:41:46.695
the jewel of beaches in the city of Port

01:41:46.719 --> 01:41:49.496
Phillip and certainly deserves this

01:41:49.520 --> 01:41:52.520
attention. Thank you.

01:41:54.000 --> 01:41:55.416
I couldn't even take a mouthful. Dark

01:41:55.440 --> 01:41:57.586
co.

01:41:57.610 --> 01:41:59.816
[Music]

01:41:59.840 --> 01:42:02.296
I'll second it. Y um it's a shame we

01:42:02.320 --> 01:42:04.215
have to keep doing this, but the sand

01:42:04.239 --> 01:42:06.776
moves so much. Um, and it's important

01:42:06.800 --> 01:42:09.175
that we do maintain our man-made beaches

01:42:09.199 --> 01:42:11.256
because they are quite loved and

01:42:11.280 --> 01:42:14.280
utilized in the area. Um, so I'm glad

01:42:14.560 --> 01:42:16.936
we're doing this and have been doing so

01:42:16.960 --> 01:42:19.816
for over 50 years. So, thank you,

01:42:19.840 --> 01:42:21.496
Council Megan.

01:42:21.520 --> 01:42:23.256
My Port Melbourne community would say

01:42:23.280 --> 01:42:24.856
Sandridge and Port Melbourne are the

01:42:24.880 --> 01:42:26.776
dual beaches of the city of Port

01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:28.776
Phillip, as would my dogs being  some

01:42:28.800 --> 01:42:30.776
of those dog beaches. But, you know,

01:42:30.800 --> 01:42:33.175
this is well done get securing this

01:42:33.199 --> 01:42:35.416
grant being able to renourish  that

01:42:35.440 --> 01:42:38.135
section of beach so that it can be one

01:42:38.159 --> 01:42:40.456
of the jewels within the city of Port

01:42:40.480 --> 01:42:43.480
Phillip and our beach.

01:42:43.520 --> 01:42:45.095
Councelor Tim,

01:42:45.119 --> 01:42:47.095
I feel compelled to say that Stila Beach

01:42:47.119 --> 01:42:50.119
is the jewel of the crown, but

01:42:50.159 --> 01:42:53.159
but I you know it's good for once we

01:42:53.600 --> 01:42:55.175
spend a bit of money in Albert Park. So,

01:42:55.199 --> 01:42:56.856
it's good.

01:42:56.880 --> 01:42:59.880
  Deputy Mayor Muse. Thank you,

01:42:59.920 --> 01:43:02.920
mayor. Um, as a ward counselor for

01:43:03.520 --> 01:43:06.215
Lakeside Ward, we can only aspire to a

01:43:06.239 --> 01:43:08.056
beach

01:43:08.080 --> 01:43:10.536
and a tree. , so this is this is

01:43:10.560 --> 01:43:13.560
wonderful and I I support it. Thank you.

01:43:14.880 --> 01:43:16.695
Council Holiday,

01:43:16.719 --> 01:43:18.776
, luckily the, , residents of Elma

01:43:18.800 --> 01:43:20.536
Ward can be objective about which beach

01:43:20.560 --> 01:43:23.560
is the best. Um, but  this is an

01:43:23.600 --> 01:43:24.856
important reminder that all of our

01:43:24.880 --> 01:43:27.095
beaches are artificial  and will

01:43:27.119 --> 01:43:30.119
require  constant upkeep  into the

01:43:30.239 --> 01:43:33.175
future.

01:43:33.199 --> 01:43:36.199
I have to I have toward

01:43:36.800 --> 01:43:39.256
beach has not been renourished since

01:43:39.280 --> 01:43:42.280
1984. So it's had a pretty good run and

01:43:42.639 --> 01:43:45.256
its time. So shout out to the state

01:43:45.280 --> 01:43:47.655
government to fund beachside

01:43:47.679 --> 01:43:49.416
um councils and and the renourishment of

01:43:49.440 --> 01:43:52.296
beaches. But Elwood and it has millions

01:43:52.320 --> 01:43:53.896
of visitors a week. I think it might be

01:43:53.920 --> 01:43:56.135
up there with St. Kilda. All right,

01:43:56.159 --> 01:43:58.376
Councelor Jay,

01:43:58.400 --> 01:44:00.856
got to jump on board. Um, Port Phillip

01:44:00.880 --> 01:44:03.336
Bay is our crown and we all have jewels

01:44:03.360 --> 01:44:06.360
including South Melbourne. So, um, our

01:44:07.280 --> 01:44:09.336
part of our open space is the bay. It's

01:44:09.360 --> 01:44:11.976
something that many of us use. We offer

01:44:12.000 --> 01:44:14.376
permits  for the beach if residents

01:44:14.400 --> 01:44:17.175
want want that as well. So, I absolutely

01:44:17.199 --> 01:44:20.199
support upkeeping this um space and you

01:44:21.119 --> 01:44:23.576
know who else has a bay or a beach in

01:44:23.600 --> 01:44:26.600
the city? They're fantastic.

01:44:28.639 --> 01:44:30.536
Okay.  council Hardy, do you want to

01:44:30.560 --> 01:44:32.056
close unless somebody else wants to jump

01:44:32.080 --> 01:44:34.936
in with their beach comparisons?

01:44:34.960 --> 01:44:36.536
Council Hardy to close.

01:44:36.560 --> 01:44:38.296
Just a quick one. Again, I do

01:44:38.320 --> 01:44:40.376
congratulate the officers in relation to

01:44:40.400 --> 01:44:42.695
securing this funding and  the people

01:44:42.719 --> 01:44:45.719
of Middle Park um would certainly agree

01:44:46.159 --> 01:44:48.215
that  the Middle Park beach attracts a

01:44:48.239 --> 01:44:50.215
far different clientele than the other

01:44:50.239 --> 01:44:53.239
business.

01:44:54.320 --> 01:44:56.615
Oh, I wish I had a right of reply. Okay,

01:44:56.639 --> 01:44:58.615
let's put that to the vote. All those in

01:44:58.639 --> 01:45:00.856
favour, all those against, that is

01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:03.880
carried unanimously.

01:45:03.920 --> 01:45:06.296
11.1 is the cultural development fund

01:45:06.320 --> 01:45:07.896
projects and cultural development fund

01:45:07.920 --> 01:45:09.976
festivals and events recommendations. So

01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:12.215
councilors, we have  an officer's

01:45:12.239 --> 01:45:14.695
report. Any questions? Councelor J.

01:45:14.719 --> 01:45:16.376
Question

01:45:16.400 --> 01:45:17.736
to find it. Has anyone else got a

01:45:17.760 --> 01:45:19.175
question while Betty finds it?

01:45:19.199 --> 01:45:19.736
I've got it.

01:45:19.760 --> 01:45:21.816
I know. Council back to councelor J.

01:45:21.840 --> 01:45:24.456
Um

01:45:24.480 --> 01:45:26.135
I lie.

01:45:26.159 --> 01:45:27.655
Should we go to councelor Buckingham?

01:45:27.679 --> 01:45:29.496
Would that be useful for you?

01:45:29.520 --> 01:45:32.520
Yes, please. Council Buckingham,

01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:37.000
I note that some of the rep prioritized

01:45:37.360 --> 01:45:39.175
money from the St. Kilda Festival has

01:45:39.199 --> 01:45:41.175
been used to fund some of these

01:45:41.199 --> 01:45:43.816
projects. Could through you, Mayor,

01:45:43.840 --> 01:45:46.456
could it please be explained what the

01:45:46.480 --> 01:45:49.016
impact of that rep prioritized funding

01:45:49.040 --> 01:45:50.936
has been on this fund?

01:45:50.960 --> 01:45:53.175
It's Brian T.

01:45:53.199 --> 01:45:55.175
through you may it's um Adele who's on

01:45:55.199 --> 01:45:58.199
Adele Dennison

01:45:59.360 --> 01:46:02.360
through you may there was  funding

01:46:02.880 --> 01:46:04.695
reallocated from the St Kilda Festival

01:46:04.719 --> 01:46:07.496
to both the cultural development fund

01:46:07.520 --> 01:46:10.215
festivals and events grant program and

01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:12.536
to the key arts organizations program

01:46:12.560 --> 01:46:15.256
for current financial year. So, the

01:46:15.280 --> 01:46:17.736
festivals and events grant program got a

01:46:17.760 --> 01:46:20.296
$50,000 boost from that additional

01:46:20.320 --> 01:46:23.320
funding. And then the um the key arts

01:46:24.639 --> 01:46:27.576
organizations all received a repeat of

01:46:27.600 --> 01:46:30.296
the previous year's annual funding as

01:46:30.320 --> 01:46:33.320
well as up to $15,000 additional for

01:46:33.679 --> 01:46:36.679
this financial year.

01:46:37.199 --> 01:46:39.175
Council Jane.

01:46:39.199 --> 01:46:40.695
Um, the question from one of the

01:46:40.719 --> 01:46:42.936
residents is, "Have all the previous

01:46:42.960 --> 01:46:45.736
year's council funded projects been

01:46:45.760 --> 01:46:48.056
acquitted within 8 weeks of their

01:46:48.080 --> 01:46:49.576
completion?"

01:46:49.600 --> 01:46:52.600
Go to Adele again.

01:46:52.800 --> 01:46:54.376
Mayor, all of the funding agreements for

01:46:54.400 --> 01:46:56.615
the cultural development fund do require

01:46:56.639 --> 01:46:59.095
an aquid to be submitted within 8 weeks

01:46:59.119 --> 01:47:01.576
of the event or project being delivered.

01:47:01.600 --> 01:47:03.576
In some cases, applicants might seek an

01:47:03.600 --> 01:47:05.175
extension to that timeline. and where

01:47:05.199 --> 01:47:07.416
that's reasonable. Um, we will support

01:47:07.440 --> 01:47:10.056
that where possible. For the previous

01:47:10.080 --> 01:47:11.175
year, there are still a number of

01:47:11.199 --> 01:47:13.016
projects or events that are yet to

01:47:13.040 --> 01:47:15.256
happen as most occur between October,

01:47:15.280 --> 01:47:16.856
November, and December. So, not all

01:47:16.880 --> 01:47:19.496
acquittles have yet been received.

01:47:19.520 --> 01:47:22.520
Thank you, Adele. Any further questions?

01:47:22.560 --> 01:47:25.496
Councelor Tamman,

01:47:25.520 --> 01:47:28.056
why are we getting this at this time of

01:47:28.080 --> 01:47:29.416
the year? like because I know in the

01:47:29.440 --> 01:47:32.440
past it was much earlier  so people

01:47:33.199 --> 01:47:36.199
can um you know because obviously the um

01:47:36.239 --> 01:47:38.456
these events happen in this financial

01:47:38.480 --> 01:47:40.856
year most of them

01:47:40.880 --> 01:47:43.880
Adele

01:47:45.280 --> 01:47:48.280
R you may that um that timing has

01:47:48.800 --> 01:47:51.800
shifted  to better align with other

01:47:53.119 --> 01:47:56.119
state and federal funding rounds um to

01:47:56.400 --> 01:47:58.776
allow for

01:47:58.800 --> 01:48:01.256
 easier acquis and easier budgeting

01:48:01.280 --> 01:48:04.280
for those arts organizations as well.

01:48:05.360 --> 01:48:07.976
Any further questions councilors?

01:48:08.000 --> 01:48:10.936
If not, could I have a mover and council

01:48:10.960 --> 01:48:13.496
man to move council holiday to second?

01:48:13.520 --> 01:48:16.520
Councelor Tuman

01:48:16.719 --> 01:48:18.695
actually think this is one of the kind

01:48:18.719 --> 01:48:21.256
of the one of the most exciting report

01:48:21.280 --> 01:48:24.280
that I like to look at when   when

01:48:24.480 --> 01:48:27.095
it comes to us. I was for 8 years

01:48:27.119 --> 01:48:28.776
previously on the cultural development

01:48:28.800 --> 01:48:30.615
fund including seven as a chair and it

01:48:30.639 --> 01:48:33.639
was always amazing to look at the number

01:48:33.679 --> 01:48:36.536
of projects that were coming to the

01:48:36.560 --> 01:48:39.560
committee and to be evaluated and it's

01:48:39.600 --> 01:48:41.336
the same here. I'm glad that we put

01:48:41.360 --> 01:48:43.976
another as part of the Sincla festival

01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:47.000
funds we managed to put another 60 or

01:48:47.040 --> 01:48:49.016
something thousand dollars towards 

01:48:49.040 --> 01:48:51.736
the culture development fund plus the

01:48:51.760 --> 01:48:54.536
fest events. um looking forward to these

01:48:54.560 --> 01:48:57.016
events taking place in our city.  we

01:48:57.040 --> 01:48:59.016
are a creative city. We are about to

01:48:59.040 --> 01:49:01.576
look at  our creative strategy for the

01:49:01.600 --> 01:49:03.016
next 10 years.

01:49:03.040 --> 01:49:04.776
um

01:49:04.800 --> 01:49:07.576
you know we've got two um you know

01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:10.296
collective  that are that have got

01:49:10.320 --> 01:49:12.856
together one more Theatre based and one

01:49:12.880 --> 01:49:15.576
more movie based or at least writers

01:49:15.600 --> 01:49:18.600
producers directors  and they will

01:49:18.800 --> 01:49:20.456
they're very keen to be part of the

01:49:20.480 --> 01:49:23.336
discussion  that we that we'll have in

01:49:23.360 --> 01:49:25.976
the next few months and  I really

01:49:26.000 --> 01:49:27.976
value the work we know we got great

01:49:28.000 --> 01:49:31.000
Theatres  Theatre works great speech

01:49:32.400 --> 01:49:34.615
great organizations. You know, we are

01:49:34.639 --> 01:49:37.639
very lucky and council needs to be there

01:49:37.920 --> 01:49:40.456
and support them at a time where some of

01:49:40.480 --> 01:49:42.936
the state and federal grants have sort

01:49:42.960 --> 01:49:44.776
of disappeared. So, we are quite often a

01:49:44.800 --> 01:49:47.800
bit of a last resort. Um, I encourage

01:49:47.840 --> 01:49:49.336
people to go and see the plays. You

01:49:49.360 --> 01:49:51.576
know, Red's teacher just had most of

01:49:51.600 --> 01:49:53.175
their season were sold out. Theatre

01:49:53.199 --> 01:49:55.416
works had 12 or 13 sold out season this

01:49:55.440 --> 01:49:58.440
year. Um so obviously

01:49:58.639 --> 01:50:01.639
um people are going to see good stuff

01:50:01.760 --> 01:50:04.760
and u I'm pleased that council is doing

01:50:05.440 --> 01:50:08.215
its small bring its small contribution

01:50:08.239 --> 01:50:11.239
for that to happen.

01:50:11.840 --> 01:50:13.576
Who seconded it? Council Holidayiday.

01:50:13.600 --> 01:50:15.496
Thank you.

01:50:15.520 --> 01:50:18.520
 thank you mayor.  just echoing 

01:50:18.639 --> 01:50:21.095
councelor Tomman's sentiments here in

01:50:21.119 --> 01:50:23.896
the leadup to the election. um many

01:50:23.920 --> 01:50:26.920
council laws committed to improving and

01:50:27.440 --> 01:50:29.336
increasing the funding for our arts

01:50:29.360 --> 01:50:30.856
organizations

01:50:30.880 --> 01:50:33.880
to better support those organizations in

01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:37.000
the face of challenging um operating

01:50:37.840 --> 01:50:40.840
circumstances here. And this um this

01:50:42.880 --> 01:50:45.880
funding that we see here represents part

01:50:45.920 --> 01:50:48.920
of that um redistribution of the funds

01:50:50.480 --> 01:50:53.480
 that we  that we rep prioritized

01:50:54.000 --> 01:50:56.296
away from the Silda Festival and towards

01:50:56.320 --> 01:50:58.536
these smaller grassroots community and

01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:01.416
arts organizations. Um it does not

01:51:01.440 --> 01:51:04.215
represent all of that. Um and I look

01:51:04.239 --> 01:51:07.239
forward to in the next budget also

01:51:07.520 --> 01:51:10.056
looking further at the sustainability of

01:51:10.080 --> 01:51:11.896
those organizations and the

01:51:11.920 --> 01:51:14.856
appropriateness of the um of the breadth

01:51:14.880 --> 01:51:17.880
of funding um and the eligibility

01:51:18.159 --> 01:51:21.159
criteria for these organizations through

01:51:21.520 --> 01:51:23.816
these grants programs.

01:51:23.840 --> 01:51:26.840
 so I will support this

01:51:26.880 --> 01:51:29.655
council min. It was also reflected in

01:51:29.679 --> 01:51:31.736
our community deliberations in looking

01:51:31.760 --> 01:51:34.135
at how we can support localized

01:51:34.159 --> 01:51:36.056
organizations and artbased and cultural

01:51:36.080 --> 01:51:38.456
based organizations. It was reflected in

01:51:38.480 --> 01:51:40.695
our council plan. It's been reflected in

01:51:40.719 --> 01:51:42.056
the community consultation we've

01:51:42.080 --> 01:51:44.456
undertaken as well. It is great to see

01:51:44.480 --> 01:51:47.480
that we are supporting our organizations

01:51:47.599 --> 01:51:50.376
in challenging times to deliver the arts

01:51:50.400 --> 01:51:52.615
and culture that our community loves and

01:51:52.639 --> 01:51:55.639
cherishes the city of Port Philip for.

01:51:56.480 --> 01:51:59.175
Council Consolo,

01:51:59.199 --> 01:52:01.575
thank you. There's a lot of money here

01:52:01.599 --> 01:52:04.135
invested in some great opportunities,

01:52:04.159 --> 01:52:07.159
projects and um performances and in the

01:52:07.760 --> 01:52:09.256
confidential attachments. Obviously, I

01:52:09.280 --> 01:52:10.615
can't elaborate, but I'm really excited

01:52:10.639 --> 01:52:13.336
about some of these. So once we get the

01:52:13.360 --> 01:52:15.256
um information out to the community and

01:52:15.280 --> 01:52:17.655
be able to share the exciting list ahead

01:52:17.679 --> 01:52:20.679
of us, this is the first time this 

01:52:21.119 --> 01:52:24.119
fund has been without a councilor on the

01:52:24.239 --> 01:52:26.536
panel and I think the officers have done

01:52:26.560 --> 01:52:29.095
a really good job. There are some

01:52:29.119 --> 01:52:31.336
disappointments, but I think it's a bit

01:52:31.360 --> 01:52:33.416
about working and understanding with the

01:52:33.440 --> 01:52:35.575
people who missed out maybe how they can

01:52:35.599 --> 01:52:37.016
strengthen their applications or what

01:52:37.040 --> 01:52:38.376
they got wrong. And I I really

01:52:38.400 --> 01:52:40.056
appreciate when the officers do that

01:52:40.080 --> 01:52:41.655
follow through because there are some

01:52:41.679 --> 01:52:43.496
really good ones that didn't make the

01:52:43.520 --> 01:52:46.135
cut this time and I I do hope that in

01:52:46.159 --> 01:52:49.159
the future they apply again.

01:52:50.239 --> 01:52:53.239
Any other council? Council Jay.

01:52:53.920 --> 01:52:55.976
Um this is really important for our

01:52:56.000 --> 01:52:57.976
community. It is a creative fund. We

01:52:58.000 --> 01:53:00.856
have a lot of creatives. Um I do echo

01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:03.880
councelor Consol's um comments where

01:53:03.920 --> 01:53:06.615
there was some some great um great great

01:53:06.639 --> 01:53:09.175
organizations received it but just as

01:53:09.199 --> 01:53:11.496
many great organizations didn't. Um I

01:53:11.520 --> 01:53:13.336
think we all wish we had endless money

01:53:13.360 --> 01:53:16.360
because we would be giving it away. Um

01:53:17.520 --> 01:53:20.520
um I think there was some timing with

01:53:21.360 --> 01:53:24.135
the budget and and and um different

01:53:24.159 --> 01:53:25.896
grants available which we've managed to

01:53:25.920 --> 01:53:28.376
streamline going forward and as um

01:53:28.400 --> 01:53:31.336
councelor Consol said um the feedback

01:53:31.360 --> 01:53:32.936
from the officers will prepare a lot of

01:53:32.960 --> 01:53:35.496
the organizations to be able to apply um

01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:37.256
perhaps for a better grant that more

01:53:37.280 --> 01:53:40.280
suits them or um create some events that

01:53:40.880 --> 01:53:43.880
that that are um conducive to our

01:53:44.400 --> 01:53:46.215
community and bringing us together. So I

01:53:46.239 --> 01:53:49.175
do support this. Thank you.

01:53:49.199 --> 01:53:50.776
Anyone else? Or should we put the vote?

01:53:50.800 --> 01:53:53.800
Councelor Buckingham.

01:53:54.639 --> 01:53:57.256
So it is

01:53:57.280 --> 01:54:00.280
excellent to see so many amazing

01:54:00.320 --> 01:54:03.320
projects and events in the pipeline that

01:54:03.679 --> 01:54:06.679
we're we've been able to fund. Um,

01:54:08.400 --> 01:54:10.695
this type of activity really goes to the

01:54:10.719 --> 01:54:13.719
core of our council plan and what kind

01:54:14.159 --> 01:54:17.159
of community we are working towards here

01:54:17.440 --> 01:54:20.296
at the city of Port Phillip. And

01:54:20.320 --> 01:54:22.215
increasingly, I think the city of Port

01:54:22.239 --> 01:54:24.776
Phillip is at its best when we enable

01:54:24.800 --> 01:54:27.800
the creativity and the efforts of people

01:54:27.840 --> 01:54:30.215
in our community to do to do their work

01:54:30.239 --> 01:54:33.239
and to enable their projects um for all

01:54:33.840 --> 01:54:36.456
of us to benefit from. But I just want

01:54:36.480 --> 01:54:39.480
to be also um echoing what councelor

01:54:41.599 --> 01:54:43.496
Consol said that there are a lot of

01:54:43.520 --> 01:54:45.256
excellent projects that have not been

01:54:45.280 --> 01:54:48.280
funded. Um, and there are projects that

01:54:49.280 --> 01:54:51.816
have been partially funded and that it

01:54:51.840 --> 01:54:54.695
is a very hard time for the arts at the

01:54:54.719 --> 01:54:55.976
moment and that there are a lot of

01:54:56.000 --> 01:54:58.376
creative people that are having to leave

01:54:58.400 --> 01:55:00.135
their field or a lot of organizations

01:55:00.159 --> 01:55:02.856
that are struggling to stay afloat. Um,

01:55:02.880 --> 01:55:05.880
and creative people that are spending a

01:55:06.000 --> 01:55:08.376
lot of their time just keeping the

01:55:08.400 --> 01:55:11.400
lights on. And this is an ongoing

01:55:12.000 --> 01:55:13.655
challenge for us as a council because if

01:55:13.679 --> 01:55:15.336
we want to preserve our arts and our

01:55:15.360 --> 01:55:16.936
culture here at City of Port Phillip, we

01:55:16.960 --> 01:55:19.960
have to invest in it. So while I think

01:55:20.320 --> 01:55:23.320
this is there's a lot of um projects

01:55:23.760 --> 01:55:25.175
here that we should be very proud of, I

01:55:25.199 --> 01:55:27.816
think we've got our work cut out for us

01:55:27.840 --> 01:55:30.135
um particularly over the next 12 months

01:55:30.159 --> 01:55:33.159
to extend investment and enable even

01:55:33.760 --> 01:55:36.760
more of these projects to to um be

01:55:37.440 --> 01:55:39.575
supported.

01:55:39.599 --> 01:55:41.976
All right. Any further speakers or can

01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:45.000
we just go to the vote? No. Well,

01:55:48.320 --> 01:55:51.320
oh, Ly closed it. Who Who moved it?

01:55:51.599 --> 01:55:53.655
Liby.

01:55:53.679 --> 01:55:54.536
Okay,

01:55:54.560 --> 01:55:55.496
that's what I was going to say. So, any

01:55:55.520 --> 01:55:57.095
other speakers before we close? Yeah,

01:55:57.119 --> 01:55:58.376
you're getting me. I'm thinking, oh

01:55:58.400 --> 01:56:00.296
gosh. , did you want to close?

01:56:00.320 --> 01:56:01.496
Councelor Tman.

01:56:01.520 --> 01:56:03.976
Yes. I just like to remind councils that

01:56:04.000 --> 01:56:05.575
back in my days there was nearly

01:56:05.599 --> 01:56:08.296
$300,000 which is now what  in terms

01:56:08.320 --> 01:56:11.320
for the council del fund project. So you

01:56:11.440 --> 01:56:14.440
know we are you know we've we have we've

01:56:14.880 --> 01:56:17.095
decreased the figure by quite a bit in

01:56:17.119 --> 01:56:18.456
the last few years and as a creative

01:56:18.480 --> 01:56:21.175
city I think we should try to aim to do

01:56:21.199 --> 01:56:23.496
better next year.

01:56:23.520 --> 01:56:24.856
Okay let's put that to the vote. All

01:56:24.880 --> 01:56:27.256
those in favour that is carried

01:56:27.280 --> 01:56:28.936
unanimously.

01:56:28.960 --> 01:56:31.655
Moving on to

01:56:31.679 --> 01:56:33.736
oh sorry got to turn a page folks make

01:56:33.760 --> 01:56:36.056
lots of noise 11.2 two which is the

01:56:36.080 --> 01:56:37.575
presentation of the annual report the

01:56:37.599 --> 01:56:40.599
Palais Theatre this is the eighth year

01:56:40.639 --> 01:56:42.695
any questions for the officers in

01:56:42.719 --> 01:56:45.719
regards to this

01:56:46.239 --> 01:56:47.816
no questions if I don't have any

01:56:47.840 --> 01:56:50.840
questions do I have a mover and seconder

01:56:52.239 --> 01:56:55.239
come on somebody councelor Jay to move

01:56:55.280 --> 01:56:57.256
and council holiday second councelor Jay

01:56:57.280 --> 01:57:00.280
would you like to speak to it councelor

01:57:00.800 --> 01:57:03.800
Holidayiday I might briefly speak to it

01:57:04.400 --> 01:57:06.856
this is Another good news story that

01:57:06.880 --> 01:57:09.175
doesn't get enough reflection in the

01:57:09.199 --> 01:57:11.256
decision to do this, the um the

01:57:11.280 --> 01:57:13.016
community benefit. Not that it always is

01:57:13.040 --> 01:57:15.256
possible in contracts, but this is

01:57:15.280 --> 01:57:17.655
possible that there is a huge number of

01:57:17.679 --> 01:57:20.056
community groups in our city that can

01:57:20.080 --> 01:57:22.536
apply and get funded on a regular basis

01:57:22.560 --> 01:57:23.976
given that there's that percentage of

01:57:24.000 --> 01:57:26.135
the ticket price of every ticket sold

01:57:26.159 --> 01:57:29.159
goes towards this.  it's an amazing

01:57:30.320 --> 01:57:32.215
opportunity that's not council funding

01:57:32.239 --> 01:57:34.296
it for a change but actually gives

01:57:34.320 --> 01:57:36.376
another you know avenue for many of our

01:57:36.400 --> 01:57:39.336
fantastic volunteer groups to to do the

01:57:39.360 --> 01:57:40.936
work that they do in um the community.

01:57:40.960 --> 01:57:43.416
So again it's a good news story. I love

01:57:43.440 --> 01:57:45.095
to see the range of acts that bring

01:57:45.119 --> 01:57:48.056
people to the city and spend money in

01:57:48.080 --> 01:57:51.080
the city.  it's an alltime another one

01:57:51.119 --> 01:57:52.776
of those crown jewels that's not Middle

01:57:52.800 --> 01:57:55.095
Park Beach but the crown  jewel crown

01:57:55.119 --> 01:57:57.816
jewel in  St Kilda. Um and so I

01:57:57.840 --> 01:57:59.816
commend this report to councilors

01:57:59.840 --> 01:58:01.256
councelor Consol.

01:58:01.280 --> 01:58:02.695
What I don't see highlighted in this

01:58:02.719 --> 01:58:05.256
report is the  Palais 4 court that was

01:58:05.280 --> 01:58:08.056
open in August last year. So this does

01:58:08.080 --> 01:58:09.816
reflect a little bit more inside the

01:58:09.840 --> 01:58:11.816
building and all the activity that goes

01:58:11.840 --> 01:58:14.840
on. But I I'm sure council  delivering

01:58:14.880 --> 01:58:17.880
that has offered a better um amenity

01:58:18.080 --> 01:58:20.376
surrounding it for all the attendees and

01:58:20.400 --> 01:58:22.536
performances.

01:58:22.560 --> 01:58:24.376
Council Jamana.

01:58:24.400 --> 01:58:26.615
So

01:58:26.639 --> 01:58:29.256
I obviously I will you know there's

01:58:29.280 --> 01:58:31.095
nothing you know there's no way of not

01:58:31.119 --> 01:58:33.256
supporting what's here but I've got a

01:58:33.280 --> 01:58:36.056
few I've done a bit of work and I did

01:58:36.080 --> 01:58:39.080
ask for clarification  and  and it

01:58:39.760 --> 01:58:41.416
was refused they were refused to be

01:58:41.440 --> 01:58:43.575
given to me under commercial confidence.

01:58:43.599 --> 01:58:46.599
So um I had reservations with you know

01:58:47.040 --> 01:58:50.040
live nations being  a pro being the

01:58:50.400 --> 01:58:51.896
person who you know the organization

01:58:51.920 --> 01:58:53.336
that runs the palace. So I don't want to

01:58:53.360 --> 01:58:55.976
go back over spilled mick but there were

01:58:56.000 --> 01:58:58.936
163 events u about halfway concerts

01:58:58.960 --> 01:59:01.175
halfway speaking comedy  including

01:59:01.199 --> 01:59:03.816
Jade Good in June 24 who just you know

01:59:03.840 --> 01:59:06.215
recently passed away.  there was a lot

01:59:06.239 --> 01:59:09.239
of  small school  you know small

01:59:10.159 --> 01:59:12.056
promoters opera companies and stuff that

01:59:12.080 --> 01:59:14.776
used the place but we know we have in

01:59:14.800 --> 01:59:17.496
Australia there are three main promoters

01:59:17.520 --> 01:59:20.520
 Live Nation Fronti  Frontier AG and

01:59:23.199 --> 01:59:24.695
TEG

01:59:24.719 --> 01:59:27.719
um I just like to say that  I did ask

01:59:28.080 --> 01:59:30.536
 for the name of the promoters for

01:59:30.560 --> 01:59:33.560
each concert to be given  the Palais

01:59:34.800 --> 01:59:37.736
did not want to give them to us but  I

01:59:37.760 --> 01:59:39.655
did my own work spent three or four

01:59:39.679 --> 01:59:42.376
hours going through all the concerts um

01:59:42.400 --> 01:59:45.400
because I just wanted to um see exactly

01:59:45.840 --> 01:59:48.840
what is so Live Nation had 30 from TIG

01:59:49.360 --> 01:59:52.360
had seven and TG had zero so the three

01:59:52.719 --> 01:59:55.095
main promoters or the two promoters that

01:59:55.119 --> 01:59:57.736
are in competition with Live Nation has

01:59:57.760 --> 01:59:59.896
have are using the pal as little as

01:59:59.920 --> 02:00:01.256
possible only if they haven't got any

02:00:01.280 --> 02:00:01.896
other option

02:00:01.920 --> 02:00:03.816
I'm going councelor Tim what has that to

02:00:03.840 --> 02:00:05.256
do with the report that we're about to

02:00:05.280 --> 02:00:05.736
adopt.

02:00:05.760 --> 02:00:07.575
I'm just saying that, you know, I'm just

02:00:07.599 --> 02:00:10.599
saying that that unfortunately  not

02:00:10.800 --> 02:00:13.800
all the promoters are using  the pal

02:00:13.920 --> 02:00:16.920
and you know and and it's um you know

02:00:17.840 --> 02:00:19.496
it's sort of sad but that's the way it

02:00:19.520 --> 02:00:21.496
is.  and I just want to make that

02:00:21.520 --> 02:00:22.536
point.

02:00:22.560 --> 02:00:24.856
Okay. Thank you.

02:00:24.880 --> 02:00:26.296
All right. Let's put that to the vote.

02:00:26.320 --> 02:00:28.695
All those in favour that is carried

02:00:28.719 --> 02:00:30.296
unanimously.

02:00:30.320 --> 02:00:33.320
Moving on to 12.1 which is the S6

02:00:34.480 --> 02:00:36.215
delegation council to offices under the

02:00:36.239 --> 02:00:39.239
planning environment act 1987 count

02:00:40.639 --> 02:00:42.856
yes sorry do we have any questions for

02:00:42.880 --> 02:00:45.256
the officers

02:00:45.280 --> 02:00:48.280
council holiday

02:00:49.119 --> 02:00:51.175
um

02:00:51.199 --> 02:00:54.199
we see here in the  delegation um that

02:00:54.480 --> 02:00:57.480
it under item or recommendation 3.6 six

02:00:58.960 --> 02:01:00.615
that the adoption of this delegation

02:01:00.639 --> 02:01:03.336
would remove or revoke the  previous

02:01:03.360 --> 02:01:05.095
design and development overlay 26

02:01:05.119 --> 02:01:08.119
protocol adopted on 27th 2nd of August.

02:01:08.400 --> 02:01:11.400
Um

02:01:11.840 --> 02:01:14.376
what would that what does it mean to

02:01:14.400 --> 02:01:17.400
council if we kept that in place that

02:01:20.400 --> 02:01:23.400
previous overlay?  Scott Parkinson. 

02:01:24.800 --> 02:01:26.776
I just want to say overall all of the

02:01:26.800 --> 02:01:28.376
changes the delegation is to streamline

02:01:28.400 --> 02:01:30.376
the processes um and also to be more

02:01:30.400 --> 02:01:32.856
consistent across the municipality. The

02:01:32.880 --> 02:01:34.776
reason when that was put on originally

02:01:34.800 --> 02:01:36.135
there was a lot of development in the

02:01:36.159 --> 02:01:38.135
area in 2017. There was a lot of

02:01:38.159 --> 02:01:39.896
construction, a lot of developments in

02:01:39.920 --> 02:01:42.376
that area. That is now passed. There's

02:01:42.400 --> 02:01:43.976
not many development sites in the area

02:01:44.000 --> 02:01:45.416
at all. There's only a few sites which

02:01:45.440 --> 02:01:46.936
could be developed up to the six

02:01:46.960 --> 02:01:49.016
stories. What it would mean for council

02:01:49.040 --> 02:01:50.376
is if there was applications, it would

02:01:50.400 --> 02:01:52.215
just have to go through another process.

02:01:52.239 --> 02:01:54.776
We always brief all the counselors. It

02:01:54.800 --> 02:01:55.816
would still be subject to normal

02:01:55.840 --> 02:01:57.896
delegation of call up and also more than

02:01:57.920 --> 02:02:00.135
16 objections. So by removing this,

02:02:00.159 --> 02:02:01.336
there would still be ample opportunities

02:02:01.360 --> 02:02:02.776
to call up any applications. The

02:02:02.800 --> 02:02:04.936
community be well engaged. Still

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follow up. I think my question here is

02:02:06.960 --> 02:02:09.960
mostly around does that

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duplicate

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processes or work for council offices

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because one you know um proposals in

02:02:19.280 --> 02:02:20.776
this one area have to go through one

02:02:20.800 --> 02:02:23.800
pathway proposals in other areas um go

02:02:24.320 --> 02:02:25.896
through another pathway. Does that lead

02:02:25.920 --> 02:02:28.456
to increased complexity and workload for

02:02:28.480 --> 02:02:30.695
our council officers effectively

02:02:30.719 --> 02:02:32.936
maintaining these two dual pathways for

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development? It it it does the um the

02:02:35.599 --> 02:02:37.016
whole aim is to be consistent across the

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municipality. So it would add that extra

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step. That's right.

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Any other questions?

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Councelor J.

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Was the community consulted about this

02:02:51.679 --> 02:02:53.896
change or was that not necessary?

02:02:53.920 --> 02:02:55.655
Um it's a change to the delegation. So

02:02:55.679 --> 02:02:57.256
there wasn't any community consultation

02:02:57.280 --> 02:03:00.135
that I'm aware of. It's reviewed every

02:03:00.159 --> 02:03:01.816
12 months is my understanding. So, it's

02:03:01.840 --> 02:03:03.336
a constant thing that does constantly

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change, but it's something we have to

02:03:04.560 --> 02:03:06.615
reook at every 12 months.

02:03:06.639 --> 02:03:09.175
, and if we do leave this in place,

02:03:09.199 --> 02:03:11.976
what are the ramifications,

02:03:12.000 --> 02:03:14.376
Scott? Like, if we don't remove

02:03:14.400 --> 02:03:15.816
If we don't remove it, it will just mean

02:03:15.840 --> 02:03:17.496
that there's a there'd be an

02:03:17.520 --> 02:03:18.776
inconsistency with the rest of the

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municipality. So, any applications that

02:03:20.800 --> 02:03:22.215
are six stories would have to go to

02:03:22.239 --> 02:03:24.056
council meeting. It it does make it more

02:03:24.080 --> 02:03:26.056
difficult for us. For example, if we

02:03:26.080 --> 02:03:27.976
refuse an application, we would normally

02:03:28.000 --> 02:03:29.416
could refuse it, but this would have to

02:03:29.440 --> 02:03:30.936
send it back to a council meeting for a

02:03:30.960 --> 02:03:32.695
refusal. So, it would add extra to that

02:03:32.719 --> 02:03:34.135
extra level of complexity and time

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frames.

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And but can can I ask a question then,

02:03:37.760 --> 02:03:39.496
Scott? So, it's not disadvantaging

02:03:39.520 --> 02:03:41.416
anyone who is in that area. It's

02:03:41.440 --> 02:03:43.496
actually making it more equitable in

02:03:43.520 --> 02:03:45.496
regards to the whole system across the

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municipality.

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That is correct,

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Council Min.

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So those complications in terms of time

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frame that could potentially mean that

02:03:54.800 --> 02:03:56.215
if we're waiting for a planning meeting

02:03:56.239 --> 02:03:57.896
or a council meeting that we run out of

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time and therefore if we were in a

02:04:00.400 --> 02:04:02.135
position where council would have

02:04:02.159 --> 02:04:04.376
refused it under delegation it then went

02:04:04.400 --> 02:04:06.056
to we had to wait until a council

02:04:06.080 --> 02:04:08.296
meeting cycle and it ran out of time the

02:04:08.320 --> 02:04:09.976
applicant could take that to VCAT and

02:04:10.000 --> 02:04:11.256
claim that we didn't make a decision in

02:04:11.280 --> 02:04:13.896
a timely manner which often doesn't bode

02:04:13.920 --> 02:04:16.376
well upon  council defending its

02:04:16.400 --> 02:04:18.456
position in VCAT. That is correct and

02:04:18.480 --> 02:04:19.896
that has what's happened in the past.

02:04:19.920 --> 02:04:21.496
That's right.

02:04:21.520 --> 02:04:24.056
So by to follow up by streamlining this

02:04:24.080 --> 02:04:26.456
process, it ensures that we are more

02:04:26.480 --> 02:04:29.095
likely to process those applications and

02:04:29.119 --> 02:04:30.776
make those decisions in a timely manner

02:04:30.800 --> 02:04:33.175
that reduces our risk and exposure to

02:04:33.199 --> 02:04:36.056
VCAT third party appeal processes.

02:04:36.080 --> 02:04:37.655
Yes, through you may. That's correct.

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We'll be would be able to, you know,

02:04:39.280 --> 02:04:40.776
without having to lead into council give

02:04:40.800 --> 02:04:42.215
us more opportunity to make decisions

02:04:42.239 --> 02:04:44.135
quicker. That's correct.

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Council J. um  residents have

02:04:47.040 --> 02:04:48.936
contacted me. They're concerned because

02:04:48.960 --> 02:04:50.776
this has been a buffer for them in the

02:04:50.800 --> 02:04:52.695
past. Obviously, the domain precinct has

02:04:52.719 --> 02:04:55.336
undergone  massive construction and

02:04:55.360 --> 02:04:57.336
and in our eyes, it's still undergoing

02:04:57.360 --> 02:05:00.360
it. Um so,  if this buffer is removed,

02:05:01.920 --> 02:05:04.920
what other um tools do the residents

02:05:04.960 --> 02:05:07.960
have to um the the way the control is,

02:05:08.880 --> 02:05:10.376
it's for anything more than six stories.

02:05:10.400 --> 02:05:12.296
We would always advertise anything of

02:05:12.320 --> 02:05:14.376
that nature. Um so all the neighbors

02:05:14.400 --> 02:05:15.896
would would all the residents would know

02:05:15.920 --> 02:05:17.575
about any application. They would still

02:05:17.599 --> 02:05:19.496
have ample opportunity. Um and would

02:05:19.520 --> 02:05:20.936
also brief counselors, anything of that

02:05:20.960 --> 02:05:22.376
sort of size in this area like we would

02:05:22.400 --> 02:05:24.776
in any other part of the municipality.

02:05:24.800 --> 02:05:27.496
And and through you may the residents if

02:05:27.520 --> 02:05:30.520
there are um more than 16 objections

02:05:31.440 --> 02:05:34.440
that will automatically come to council.

02:05:36.719 --> 02:05:39.016
 now council

02:05:39.040 --> 02:05:42.040
but if it doesn't reach 16 an council

02:05:42.239 --> 02:05:44.536
can call it in.

02:05:44.560 --> 02:05:47.336
 yes if it doesn't reach 16 counselors

02:05:47.360 --> 02:05:48.856
are briefed on all these applications

02:05:48.880 --> 02:05:51.655
and any one counselor can call it in.

02:05:51.679 --> 02:05:54.376
Council Holiday.

02:05:54.400 --> 02:05:57.400
Um does this overlay um extend any

02:05:57.760 --> 02:06:00.215
significant um protections or

02:06:00.239 --> 02:06:03.175
differences um compared to the other

02:06:03.199 --> 02:06:05.336
planning controls around the rest of the

02:06:05.360 --> 02:06:07.016
municipality.

02:06:07.040 --> 02:06:08.856
There is specific controls in the sub

02:06:08.880 --> 02:06:10.376
precinct. There's some mandatory heights

02:06:10.400 --> 02:06:11.896
and some discretionary controls over

02:06:11.920 --> 02:06:13.816
podium and setbacks. There's a a lot of

02:06:13.840 --> 02:06:15.175
them are governed by the design and

02:06:15.199 --> 02:06:16.296
development overlay that affects the

02:06:16.320 --> 02:06:19.016
area. Um it's similar but different to

02:06:19.040 --> 02:06:21.016
other parts of municipality. There is

02:06:21.040 --> 02:06:22.936
individual controls for different parts

02:06:22.960 --> 02:06:25.960
of the municipality.

02:06:26.000 --> 02:06:28.296
Okay. Councilors, any further questions

02:06:28.320 --> 02:06:31.320
or can do I have a

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Okay. So, councelor Jay, you've got an

02:06:33.199 --> 02:06:34.376
alternative motion.

02:06:34.400 --> 02:06:36.536
Um, I will put an alternative motion on

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behalf of the residents on St. Kilder

02:06:38.480 --> 02:06:40.536
Road and and the surrounds. I will seek

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to delete 3.1

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um and retain this buffer

02:06:47.119 --> 02:06:47.896
um

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2.6.

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Oh, hold on. 3.6. It's Hang on. Hang on.

02:06:53.440 --> 02:06:55.496
Okay. Do you We've got that on the

02:06:55.520 --> 02:06:56.936
screen, have we? Yep. And do you have a

02:06:56.960 --> 02:06:57.175
second?

02:06:57.199 --> 02:07:00.199
3.6 to to delete 3.6 and retain the

02:07:01.199 --> 02:07:03.175
current protocol

02:07:03.199 --> 02:07:05.175
um as a buffer for the residents of

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Domain.

02:07:06.239 --> 02:07:09.239
 do you have a seconder?

02:07:09.520 --> 02:07:11.575
Oh, do I do I have a seconder?

02:07:11.599 --> 02:07:13.655
Council me to second. All right, let's

02:07:13.679 --> 02:07:15.256
go to the debate. Councelor, now

02:07:15.280 --> 02:07:16.456
councilors, before we have the debate,

02:07:16.480 --> 02:07:18.856
we have about 10 items still to go and

02:07:18.880 --> 02:07:21.175
I'm we're going to we're in less than an

02:07:21.199 --> 02:07:23.095
hour and I may have to ask for an

02:07:23.119 --> 02:07:26.055
extension. So, could I keep our really

02:07:26.079 --> 02:07:28.456
focused for the next hour? So, councelor

02:07:28.480 --> 02:07:31.480
J.

02:07:32.239 --> 02:07:34.615
um I am putting this in on behalf of the

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residents in the main precinct that have

02:07:36.719 --> 02:07:39.256
undergone um extraordinary amounts of

02:07:39.280 --> 02:07:42.280
construction as a buffer. Um I hope my

02:07:42.480 --> 02:07:45.480
fellow councilors will support this.

02:07:46.960 --> 02:07:49.336
 council me.

02:07:49.360 --> 02:07:52.360
Thank you mayor. Um I believe that 

02:07:52.480 --> 02:07:55.480
the residents  feel the emission of

02:07:58.000 --> 02:08:01.000
this will be um of comfort to them

02:08:01.599 --> 02:08:03.655
looking forward. I understand the extra

02:08:03.679 --> 02:08:05.816
steps that have been  discussed here

02:08:05.840 --> 02:08:08.840
tonight or advised tonight. However, 

02:08:08.960 --> 02:08:10.376
we can still get to the same

02:08:10.400 --> 02:08:12.215
destination. It just takes an extra

02:08:12.239 --> 02:08:15.239
step. So, I support this. Thank you.

02:08:16.079 --> 02:08:18.456
Any other counselor? I'm going to speak

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against it. Um we're always talking

02:08:20.320 --> 02:08:22.296
about efficiencies and or you know, and

02:08:22.320 --> 02:08:24.856
and pushing officers to do better. Um

02:08:24.880 --> 02:08:26.695
and I'm all about equity. At the time

02:08:26.719 --> 02:08:28.135
when this was brought in, there was a

02:08:28.159 --> 02:08:29.736
lot of development and there was a need

02:08:29.760 --> 02:08:32.376
for it. Um that has changed. Um there

02:08:32.400 --> 02:08:33.896
are other areas of municipality that you

02:08:33.920 --> 02:08:35.336
could think that this could apply to

02:08:35.360 --> 02:08:37.575
more fairly and equitably. that time has

02:08:37.599 --> 02:08:39.896
passed. There is still the same um

02:08:39.920 --> 02:08:42.856
opportunity for  residents to raise

02:08:42.880 --> 02:08:44.536
this for councilors to call it in. I

02:08:44.560 --> 02:08:46.215
don't like that the inequity especially

02:08:46.239 --> 02:08:49.239
since that peak period has changed. Um

02:08:49.840 --> 02:08:51.736
and so I would urge fellow counselors in

02:08:51.760 --> 02:08:53.416
terms of equity, efficiency and all the

02:08:53.440 --> 02:08:56.055
things we demand um to vote this down

02:08:56.079 --> 02:08:58.776
and if if this should fail, I foreshadow

02:08:58.800 --> 02:09:00.215
bringing the c the officer's

02:09:00.239 --> 02:09:01.816
recommendation.

02:09:01.840 --> 02:09:03.416
Anyone else like to speak to councelor

02:09:03.440 --> 02:09:05.016
demand?

02:09:05.040 --> 02:09:08.040
Um can I'm bit confused about what we're

02:09:08.239 --> 02:09:10.776
doing. Can we have an officers

02:09:10.800 --> 02:09:12.615
 you know I don't know if it's the

02:09:12.639 --> 02:09:14.856
right thing is to have an officer's

02:09:14.880 --> 02:09:16.055
point of view about

02:09:16.079 --> 02:09:17.896
No, this is not the time. This is the

02:09:17.920 --> 02:09:19.896
time for a decision. We've had the

02:09:19.920 --> 02:09:22.920
questions. We're removing this.

02:09:22.960 --> 02:09:25.960
Yeah. Sorry. We've asked the questions.

02:09:28.000 --> 02:09:29.736
So council m do you want to speak or do

02:09:29.760 --> 02:09:30.055
we

02:09:30.079 --> 02:09:31.736
I'm happy to speak against

02:09:31.760 --> 02:09:33.496
speaking against you. I'm happy for you

02:09:33.520 --> 02:09:35.896
to go to do that.

02:09:35.920 --> 02:09:38.695
No one else. I can understand the intent

02:09:38.719 --> 02:09:41.719
of the board counselors  wanting

02:09:41.760 --> 02:09:43.976
carveouts like this, but the reality is

02:09:44.000 --> 02:09:46.456
we actually retain the ability as

02:09:46.480 --> 02:09:49.480
counselors to call in applications if we

02:09:49.520 --> 02:09:51.736
choose to do so. If it doesn't meet the

02:09:51.760 --> 02:09:53.575
thresholds that already have been met,

02:09:53.599 --> 02:09:56.456
all these carveouts do is create

02:09:56.480 --> 02:09:58.296
complications in terms of the planning

02:09:58.320 --> 02:10:01.320
process. It creates delays that increase

02:10:01.679 --> 02:10:04.679
our risk, increase our exposure should

02:10:05.119 --> 02:10:07.896
those  decisions be appealed by

02:10:07.920 --> 02:10:10.135
external parties through avenues like

02:10:10.159 --> 02:10:13.159
VCAT. We want to ensure that we have

02:10:13.360 --> 02:10:15.816
clear controls in place through

02:10:15.840 --> 02:10:17.976
delegation in the way planning matters

02:10:18.000 --> 02:10:20.055
are dealt with to ensure that us as

02:10:20.079 --> 02:10:22.536
councilors have confidence in the way

02:10:22.560 --> 02:10:24.215
planning decisions are made. our

02:10:24.239 --> 02:10:25.976
community has confidence in the

02:10:26.000 --> 02:10:27.896
consistency and equity in the way

02:10:27.920 --> 02:10:29.976
planning decisions are made and that we

02:10:30.000 --> 02:10:33.000
as counselors are able to call those in

02:10:33.280 --> 02:10:36.280
when required. These carveout provisions

02:10:36.880 --> 02:10:39.655
may have made sense previously and I

02:10:39.679 --> 02:10:41.416
note there's a number of carveout

02:10:41.440 --> 02:10:43.736
positions  positions that have been

02:10:43.760 --> 02:10:46.135
removed including some for fishbend that

02:10:46.159 --> 02:10:48.055
also in the current context don't make

02:10:48.079 --> 02:10:51.079
sense. Consistency is key. It ensures

02:10:51.360 --> 02:10:52.776
that our community knows where they

02:10:52.800 --> 02:10:54.615
stand. It ensures that our applicants

02:10:54.639 --> 02:10:56.376
know where they stand. It ensures that

02:10:56.400 --> 02:10:58.936
we as councilors know what we can do to

02:10:58.960 --> 02:11:01.575
call those in to undertake our powers

02:11:01.599 --> 02:11:04.456
responsibly, equitably, and fairly. I do

02:11:04.480 --> 02:11:06.135
not support this motion, although I do

02:11:06.159 --> 02:11:09.159
appreciate as ward counselors the

02:11:09.599 --> 02:11:11.575
community liking provisions like this.

02:11:11.599 --> 02:11:13.736
The reality is all it does is create

02:11:13.760 --> 02:11:16.215
delay, create uncertainty, and over

02:11:16.239 --> 02:11:17.816
complicate things that should not be

02:11:17.840 --> 02:11:19.655
complicated.

02:11:19.679 --> 02:11:21.095
Councelor Cono,

02:11:21.119 --> 02:11:24.119
thanks.  I'm still deciding what to do

02:11:24.560 --> 02:11:27.175
here. I really appreciate what Alex M

02:11:27.199 --> 02:11:30.199
councelor Min has just said. Um there

02:11:31.119 --> 02:11:33.496
it's not every project that needs the

02:11:33.520 --> 02:11:36.520
same treatment. However, I do feel very

02:11:37.440 --> 02:11:39.496
connected to this area having been the

02:11:39.520 --> 02:11:41.095
word counselor previously and know how

02:11:41.119 --> 02:11:44.119
much the G12 put into their submissions

02:11:44.639 --> 02:11:47.639
and their interaction with the W

02:11:47.679 --> 02:11:49.896
counselor. though I do have faith that

02:11:49.920 --> 02:11:52.456
if there's one that comes across or

02:11:52.480 --> 02:11:55.480
couple that  the ward counselor would

02:11:56.159 --> 02:11:58.135
be able to call it in that that ability

02:11:58.159 --> 02:12:01.159
is still there but it has been an area

02:12:01.360 --> 02:12:04.360
where um small decisions have made a

02:12:05.360 --> 02:12:08.360
huge impact and to treat it with a lot

02:12:08.639 --> 02:12:11.639
of care makes sense given that it hasn't

02:12:11.760 --> 02:12:14.760
had the benefit of of framework or

02:12:15.119 --> 02:12:16.376
anything else that some of the other

02:12:16.400 --> 02:12:19.400
areas with this much planned growth um

02:12:20.880 --> 02:12:23.575
have benefited from. So I do think it's

02:12:23.599 --> 02:12:26.376
a very unique special area. I'm still

02:12:26.400 --> 02:12:28.135
thinking.

02:12:28.159 --> 02:12:30.135
Any other counselor like to speak to it?

02:12:30.159 --> 02:12:33.095
Councelor Holidayiday.

02:12:33.119 --> 02:12:35.496
Thank you, Mayor. Um again while I

02:12:35.520 --> 02:12:38.520
appreciate um the sentiment of 

02:12:39.440 --> 02:12:40.936
reflecting

02:12:40.960 --> 02:12:43.960
the views of the residents of this area

02:12:44.560 --> 02:12:46.776
I think that we have to be very careful

02:12:46.800 --> 02:12:49.336
with exceptionalism.

02:12:49.360 --> 02:12:52.215
um you know we already see here in this

02:12:52.239 --> 02:12:55.239
area in this recommendation removal of

02:12:55.599 --> 02:12:57.256
the exceptionism

02:12:57.280 --> 02:13:00.280
um for the fisherman's ben protocol um

02:13:01.119 --> 02:13:04.119
an area which arguably um requires the

02:13:05.520 --> 02:13:08.520
most care and attention um but is

02:13:08.800 --> 02:13:10.536
adequately

02:13:10.560 --> 02:13:13.560
um managed through our broader planning

02:13:15.679 --> 02:13:18.055
controls and I think that if that can

02:13:18.079 --> 02:13:20.936
apply to fisherman's bend then um then

02:13:20.960 --> 02:13:23.960
that can equally apply here in  in the

02:13:24.800 --> 02:13:27.800
domain area um and I think that the

02:13:28.320 --> 02:13:30.615
benefits of that will be um felt by our

02:13:30.639 --> 02:13:33.175
offices  and by us through consistency

02:13:33.199 --> 02:13:36.199
of our processes and um efficiency and

02:13:36.960 --> 02:13:39.960
again the equitable um

02:13:40.400 --> 02:13:42.936
 implementation and consideration of

02:13:42.960 --> 02:13:45.816
planning across our city. So I will not

02:13:45.840 --> 02:13:48.135
support this. Can I ask a clarifying

02:13:48.159 --> 02:13:48.776
question?

02:13:48.800 --> 02:13:49.256
Yes.

02:13:49.280 --> 02:13:52.280
Was this moved as an alt motion? So if

02:13:52.800 --> 02:13:53.896
if I

02:13:53.920 --> 02:13:55.575
foreshadowed you foreshadowed. Cool.

02:13:55.599 --> 02:13:57.976
Okay. Just making sure.

02:13:58.000 --> 02:14:00.536
Anyone else wish to speak to it? Can we

02:14:00.560 --> 02:14:03.095
go back to councelor J to close?

02:14:03.119 --> 02:14:05.416
Yep. Councelor J.

02:14:05.440 --> 02:14:08.440
Um it's very difficult being in this

02:14:08.719 --> 02:14:10.536
position as a counselor and seeing all

02:14:10.560 --> 02:14:12.615
this development across our municipality

02:14:12.639 --> 02:14:15.016
and in one way encouraging it in another

02:14:15.040 --> 02:14:17.175
way having lived through the lived

02:14:17.199 --> 02:14:19.336
experience that some of us do in these

02:14:19.360 --> 02:14:22.360
high high density places like um Silda

02:14:23.280 --> 02:14:26.280
Road and Kingsway. Um  you know when

02:14:27.040 --> 02:14:28.856
you live in a house you just have a

02:14:28.880 --> 02:14:30.296
couple of neighbors to deal with. We've

02:14:30.320 --> 02:14:32.536
got hundreds if not thousands that we

02:14:32.560 --> 02:14:34.055
deal with and form part of our

02:14:34.079 --> 02:14:37.079
community. Um  as as um councelor

02:14:38.320 --> 02:14:40.776
Consolo mentioned this for for a long

02:14:40.800 --> 02:14:43.416
time this area was just developed ad hoc

02:14:43.440 --> 02:14:44.776
and this was certainly one of the

02:14:44.800 --> 02:14:46.615
buffers that was put in place in order

02:14:46.639 --> 02:14:48.695
to protect the precinct and make sure

02:14:48.719 --> 02:14:51.719
that um  we were building the right

02:14:52.480 --> 02:14:55.016
buildings in in in in in this area

02:14:55.040 --> 02:14:57.496
because as we um know and as councelor

02:14:57.520 --> 02:14:59.575
Consol knows there's been a couple of

02:14:59.599 --> 02:15:01.175
little small things that have happened

02:15:01.199 --> 02:15:03.655
that have had big impact and that's what

02:15:03.679 --> 02:15:05.175
 myself and the resident idence. We're

02:15:05.199 --> 02:15:08.199
wanting just an extra buffer to um

02:15:08.239 --> 02:15:10.856
shelter us from from things that are

02:15:10.880 --> 02:15:13.880
very very very difficult to reverse. So,

02:15:14.000 --> 02:15:15.496
 thank you for all your feedback.

02:15:15.520 --> 02:15:17.256
Really appreciate it. Happy to go to the

02:15:17.280 --> 02:15:18.695
vote.

02:15:18.719 --> 02:15:20.055
All right, let's go to the vote. All

02:15:20.079 --> 02:15:21.976
those in favour,

02:15:22.000 --> 02:15:25.000
all those against.

02:15:27.679 --> 02:15:29.896
But if it's unanimous, I'm going to not

02:15:29.920 --> 02:15:31.095
have to do it. I'll do it again. So,

02:15:31.119 --> 02:15:32.936
that's what I'm just saying. I I wasn't.

02:15:32.960 --> 02:15:34.695
So that's this is the new system, right?

02:15:34.719 --> 02:15:37.655
So all those in favour. Okay. So it's

02:15:37.679 --> 02:15:39.655
going to be councelor Miz, councelor

02:15:39.679 --> 02:15:41.496
Jay, councelor consolo, councelor Hardy.

02:15:41.520 --> 02:15:43.336
All those against councelor Timman,

02:15:43.360 --> 02:15:44.695
councelor Min, councelor Crawford,

02:15:44.719 --> 02:15:45.976
councelor Holidayiday, and councelor

02:15:46.000 --> 02:15:48.695
Buckingham. So that motion is defeated.

02:15:48.719 --> 02:15:50.135
So that means we go back to the

02:15:50.159 --> 02:15:51.976
council's original recommendation which

02:15:52.000 --> 02:15:55.000
does include removal of that protocol.

02:15:55.679 --> 02:15:57.416
Um I'm going to move it. Do I have a

02:15:57.440 --> 02:16:00.440
seconder? Councelor M to second.  I

02:16:00.480 --> 02:16:01.896
think most of the arguments have been

02:16:01.920 --> 02:16:04.456
made. I think it's just a smoother,

02:16:04.480 --> 02:16:06.936
fairer um system and there is equal

02:16:06.960 --> 02:16:09.960
opportunity for um prop  you know

02:16:10.320 --> 02:16:11.816
applications that need to be brought in

02:16:11.840 --> 02:16:14.135
to be identified and called in and so I

02:16:14.159 --> 02:16:17.159
feel comfortable moving this council min

02:16:17.280 --> 02:16:19.736
the triggers exist in terms of the

02:16:19.760 --> 02:16:21.175
planning process whether it's the number

02:16:21.199 --> 02:16:22.456
of signatures whether it's the

02:16:22.480 --> 02:16:25.480
councilor's  or number of objectors 

02:16:25.520 --> 02:16:27.016
whether it's councilors calling in

02:16:27.040 --> 02:16:30.040
applications those rights still exist

02:16:30.400 --> 02:16:32.455
our community should engage in that

02:16:32.479 --> 02:16:34.535
process. It is a process that applies

02:16:34.559 --> 02:16:36.375
equally and fairly across our

02:16:36.399 --> 02:16:38.136
municipality and therefore I support

02:16:38.160 --> 02:16:40.856
this recommendation and  from a good

02:16:40.880 --> 02:16:42.695
governance perspective standardizing our

02:16:42.719 --> 02:16:45.719
delegation processes as well. Anyone

02:16:46.160 --> 02:16:48.695
else like to speak to it? All right,

02:16:48.719 --> 02:16:50.136
let's put that to the vote. All those in

02:16:50.160 --> 02:16:51.816
favour

02:16:51.840 --> 02:16:53.495
that and that's councelor Buckingham,

02:16:53.519 --> 02:16:55.896
councelor Consol, councelor 

02:16:55.920 --> 02:16:57.415
Holidayiday, councelor Crawford,

02:16:57.439 --> 02:16:59.096
councelor M and councelor Tomman. All

02:16:59.120 --> 02:17:01.256
those against councelor Hardy, councelor

02:17:01.280 --> 02:17:03.335
Mia and councelor Jay. So that has

02:17:03.359 --> 02:17:06.359
passed.

02:17:07.439 --> 02:17:09.976
All right, there we go. 12.2. We are

02:17:10.000 --> 02:17:12.056
moving to councelor expenses monthly

02:17:12.080 --> 02:17:14.856
reporting September 2025.

02:17:14.880 --> 02:17:17.816
Councilors, do we have any questions in

02:17:17.840 --> 02:17:20.056
regards to that? I'm just as we scroll

02:17:20.080 --> 02:17:22.295
down.

02:17:22.319 --> 02:17:24.615
Thank you.

02:17:24.639 --> 02:17:26.695
, if I don't have any questions, can I

02:17:26.719 --> 02:17:28.936
have a mover and a seconder? Council

02:17:28.960 --> 02:17:31.655
Tamman to move. Council Hardy to second.

02:17:31.679 --> 02:17:34.679
Councelor Tamman. Councelor Hardy.

02:17:35.359 --> 02:17:37.495
Anyone else?

02:17:37.519 --> 02:17:40.519
This is the monthly expenses.

02:17:41.679 --> 02:17:43.016
Yeah. Yep. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.

02:17:43.040 --> 02:17:45.176
Councelor Consol

02:17:45.200 --> 02:17:47.976
expenses.

02:17:48.000 --> 02:17:49.575
Yeah. Can I speak to it?

02:17:49.599 --> 02:17:50.216
Oh, sorry.

02:17:50.240 --> 02:17:52.455
Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yes. So I I just wanted

02:17:52.479 --> 02:17:54.375
to take a point about I had some

02:17:54.399 --> 02:17:56.375
planning or not planning some um

02:17:56.399 --> 02:17:59.256
training budget there utilized going to

02:17:59.280 --> 02:18:02.216
the um Main Street Australia conference

02:18:02.240 --> 02:18:05.240
recently and I thought it was very um

02:18:05.280 --> 02:18:07.096
enlightening to hear about what other

02:18:07.120 --> 02:18:09.736
areas are doing and some of the shared

02:18:09.760 --> 02:18:12.760
issues but thank you for the expense.

02:18:15.439 --> 02:18:18.056
 who council J would you like to speak

02:18:18.080 --> 02:18:21.080
to the allowance  report? Yeah. Um I

02:18:21.599 --> 02:18:24.599
actually had um um  a resident in the

02:18:24.719 --> 02:18:26.455
community call me and want to know what

02:18:26.479 --> 02:18:29.479
the $10,000 in my conference and

02:18:29.599 --> 02:18:31.495
training was. So just in case anyone's

02:18:31.519 --> 02:18:33.575
wondering, a few counselors have

02:18:33.599 --> 02:18:36.599
enrolled in the AIC directorship course

02:18:36.960 --> 02:18:38.776
 in the new year and this is part of

02:18:38.800 --> 02:18:41.096
our  professional training. So it is

02:18:41.120 --> 02:18:42.535
quite substantial but it's quite a

02:18:42.559 --> 02:18:44.856
substantial course. I think councelor

02:18:44.880 --> 02:18:47.880
Min and I have it in our expenses. So um

02:18:48.080 --> 02:18:49.736
if you wanted to know what that was that

02:18:49.760 --> 02:18:52.760
is so we could be a better board.

02:18:53.920 --> 02:18:55.415
Any other counselors?

02:18:55.439 --> 02:18:57.655
Just briefly the AICD is the gold

02:18:57.679 --> 02:18:59.976
standard in terms of directorships and

02:19:00.000 --> 02:19:01.736
good governance and the duties that we

02:19:01.760 --> 02:19:04.375
have as board members. Hence why I'm

02:19:04.399 --> 02:19:07.256
joining councelor Jay in  the course

02:19:07.280 --> 02:19:09.016
in the new year. And thank you councelor

02:19:09.040 --> 02:19:12.040
Jay for highlighting it too.

02:19:12.479 --> 02:19:15.479
Anyone else or did you want to close

02:19:15.599 --> 02:19:17.575
councelor Timman?

02:19:17.599 --> 02:19:20.599
 no just like over  I was overseas

02:19:20.719 --> 02:19:23.335
and I'm was quite surprised with my my

02:19:23.359 --> 02:19:25.256
bill. So I don't know if we can review

02:19:25.280 --> 02:19:27.575
the contract with whoever is a provider.

02:19:27.599 --> 02:19:29.896
You know my private phone I only paid $5

02:19:29.920 --> 02:19:32.136
a day.  here it looks a lot more

02:19:32.160 --> 02:19:34.455
expensive than what I used to have as a

02:19:34.479 --> 02:19:37.335
so I'm just wondering um you know if we

02:19:37.359 --> 02:19:39.976
can get a better deal if we attend you

02:19:40.000 --> 02:19:41.655
know if you want to keep doing council

02:19:41.679 --> 02:19:43.575
business but apart from that as people

02:19:43.599 --> 02:19:46.295
are justifying the expenses um you know

02:19:46.319 --> 02:19:48.616
it's it's all way not there's nothing

02:19:48.640 --> 02:19:50.536
really to talk about

02:19:50.560 --> 02:19:52.136
thank you let's put that to the vote all

02:19:52.160 --> 02:19:54.216
those in favour that is carried

02:19:54.240 --> 02:19:56.136
unanimously

02:19:56.160 --> 02:19:57.976
we are moving on to the presentation of

02:19:58.000 --> 02:20:01.000
the city port Philip annual Report 2425.

02:20:02.160 --> 02:20:04.295
Councilors, any requests? Oh, not

02:20:04.319 --> 02:20:06.536
requests.

02:20:06.560 --> 02:20:08.455
I'm I'm not very good at singing. Just

02:20:08.479 --> 02:20:10.536
what I know. Any questions? Council

02:20:10.560 --> 02:20:12.856
Holiday.

02:20:12.880 --> 02:20:14.936
, thank you, Mayor. Um, sorry.

02:20:14.960 --> 02:20:17.960
Question without notice here. um the the

02:20:18.880 --> 02:20:21.880
I I'm wondering how a resident um would

02:20:23.520 --> 02:20:25.896
be able to find out actually what we

02:20:25.920 --> 02:20:28.920
spend on each on each of our capital and

02:20:29.040 --> 02:20:31.816
other projects in each year. I know that

02:20:31.840 --> 02:20:33.335
the budget at the start of the year

02:20:33.359 --> 02:20:35.576
includes the planned spending for them,

02:20:35.600 --> 02:20:37.896
but do we ever

02:20:37.920 --> 02:20:39.656
release a breakdown of the actual spend

02:20:39.680 --> 02:20:42.680
at the end of the financial year?

02:20:44.880 --> 02:20:46.776
, who's taking that one? I don't we do

02:20:46.800 --> 02:20:49.096
that in the financial reports. Council,

02:20:49.120 --> 02:20:51.816
I'm sorry, don't I'm tired. Lachlan

02:20:51.840 --> 02:20:53.736
Johnson.

02:20:53.760 --> 02:20:55.976
Um, through you, mayor. So, obviously

02:20:56.000 --> 02:20:57.736
the annual report provides the overall

02:20:57.760 --> 02:20:59.736
figures. So, the statement of capital

02:20:59.760 --> 02:21:02.455
works  is in the annual report, but I

02:21:02.479 --> 02:21:04.455
think what you're asking council holiday

02:21:04.479 --> 02:21:07.016
is the line by line. So effectively what

02:21:07.040 --> 02:21:09.415
goes into the draft budget and the

02:21:09.439 --> 02:21:11.816
budget but so every time we do the

02:21:11.840 --> 02:21:14.776
budget we do reflect the actuals um that

02:21:14.800 --> 02:21:17.016
are there as well. So particularly for

02:21:17.040 --> 02:21:18.776
programs or projects that go over

02:21:18.800 --> 02:21:21.800
multiple years  there's that's updated

02:21:23.359 --> 02:21:25.656
 each time we do the budget process.

02:21:25.680 --> 02:21:27.656
Um but as part of the annual report we

02:21:27.680 --> 02:21:30.616
don't provide a similar format to what

02:21:30.640 --> 02:21:33.640
goes into the draft budget.

02:21:35.760 --> 02:21:38.760
, any other questions?

02:21:40.000 --> 02:21:42.375
All right. , do I have a mover,

02:21:42.399 --> 02:21:44.375
Council Holiday to move Council Min to

02:21:44.399 --> 02:21:47.335
second? Councelor Holidayiday.

02:21:47.359 --> 02:21:49.256
,

02:21:49.280 --> 02:21:52.280
the annual report here is a massive um

02:21:52.880 --> 02:21:55.335
undertaking by council, often overlooked

02:21:55.359 --> 02:21:57.176
because it comes at the end of the year.

02:21:57.200 --> 02:22:00.200
Um but this  is a um a full and

02:22:01.760 --> 02:22:04.616
complete um accounting of our activities

02:22:04.640 --> 02:22:06.536
over the year um including all of our

02:22:06.560 --> 02:22:09.560
financial activities. So um again 

02:22:10.240 --> 02:22:12.216
often overlooked but a wealth of

02:22:12.240 --> 02:22:14.295
information here um for our community

02:22:14.319 --> 02:22:16.936
members about um you know again the

02:22:16.960 --> 02:22:19.496
activities and finances of council. So

02:22:19.520 --> 02:22:22.216
um I will be u supporting  the

02:22:22.240 --> 02:22:24.936
recommended the recommendation here.

02:22:24.960 --> 02:22:26.136
Councelor Min

02:22:26.160 --> 02:22:28.136
echoing council holiday. It's

02:22:28.160 --> 02:22:29.656
unfortunate annual reports are

02:22:29.680 --> 02:22:31.256
overlooked because it is that report

02:22:31.280 --> 02:22:34.136
over the previous 12 months shows how

02:22:34.160 --> 02:22:35.496
council is working for the community,

02:22:35.520 --> 02:22:37.096
how we're working for the community and

02:22:37.120 --> 02:22:39.256
the outcomes are derived. So commend 

02:22:39.280 --> 02:22:42.056
the report and the motion.

02:22:42.080 --> 02:22:45.080
Any other counselor?

02:22:45.840 --> 02:22:48.056
I'll briefly say it. I'm not sure who

02:22:48.080 --> 02:22:50.216
reads it or not very many people.

02:22:50.240 --> 02:22:51.896
There's there's a few people very

02:22:51.920 --> 02:22:54.455
engaged people that read it, but not

02:22:54.479 --> 02:22:56.455
that you would want to read it from

02:22:56.479 --> 02:22:58.856
start to finish, but if you dip into it,

02:22:58.880 --> 02:23:00.776
it is actually gives you a reflection of

02:23:00.800 --> 02:23:03.800
the huge amount of services and and

02:23:04.240 --> 02:23:07.240
projects and the breadth of what council

02:23:07.280 --> 02:23:09.656
actually delivers. Um, so it's one of

02:23:09.680 --> 02:23:11.415
those ones worth dipping into just to

02:23:11.439 --> 02:23:13.976
get a sense of really how extensive the

02:23:14.000 --> 02:23:16.536
role of counselor is or council in your

02:23:16.560 --> 02:23:19.560
day-to-day life and how much we goes

02:23:19.920 --> 02:23:22.056
really well. Um, and so it is a really

02:23:22.080 --> 02:23:24.936
um an eye opening read should you need

02:23:24.960 --> 02:23:27.256
to get to sleep in the near future. So

02:23:27.280 --> 02:23:30.280
um I'm really happy to support this.

02:23:31.280 --> 02:23:32.936
Oh Frank, thank you.

02:23:32.960 --> 02:23:33.736
And others.

02:23:33.760 --> 02:23:35.016
And others. Okay. So there's a few

02:23:35.040 --> 02:23:36.936
there's a there's a small posy of people

02:23:36.960 --> 02:23:38.375
that do it and it's great because

02:23:38.399 --> 02:23:40.616
there's so much work that goes into it.

02:23:40.640 --> 02:23:42.136
Any other council wish to speak to the

02:23:42.160 --> 02:23:43.896
item?

02:23:43.920 --> 02:23:45.736
Can we just put that to the close?

02:23:45.760 --> 02:23:47.016
Council Holiday to close.

02:23:47.040 --> 02:23:49.656
 once again I I just feel embarrassed

02:23:49.680 --> 02:23:51.736
um to

02:23:51.760 --> 02:23:54.760
um have a report of this size and the

02:23:55.840 --> 02:23:57.976
amount of effort and work that has gone

02:23:58.000 --> 02:24:01.000
into this to produce it. and we we

02:24:02.960 --> 02:24:05.960
adopted here and say you know three

02:24:06.000 --> 02:24:08.136
sentences about it. So again um

02:24:08.160 --> 02:24:11.160
potentially  please pass on our um our

02:24:12.800 --> 02:24:14.455
gratitude to all of the officers

02:24:14.479 --> 02:24:17.479
involved in this. Um this was no small

02:24:18.000 --> 02:24:21.000
undertaking. So thank them all.

02:24:21.520 --> 02:24:23.415
Let's put that to the vote. All those in

02:24:23.439 --> 02:24:26.439
favour that is carried unanimously.

02:24:28.319 --> 02:24:30.696
13.2 two is the proposed discontinuence

02:24:30.720 --> 02:24:33.176
of road R3559

02:24:33.200 --> 02:24:34.856
which is adjoining 15 Marriott Street

02:24:34.880 --> 02:24:37.016
St. Kilder 3182.

02:24:37.040 --> 02:24:40.040
Any questions? Councelor Holidayiday.

02:24:40.399 --> 02:24:43.399
No questions.

02:24:43.920 --> 02:24:45.256
Oh, you can move the motion. Sorry, I

02:24:45.280 --> 02:24:48.216
couldn't quite hear um question. You

02:24:48.240 --> 02:24:49.415
happy to second? All right. Council

02:24:49.439 --> 02:24:50.936
Holidayiday to move. Councelor Tomand to

02:24:50.960 --> 02:24:52.696
second. Councelor Holidayiday. , real

02:24:52.720 --> 02:24:54.776
quick, um, this is a small p p p p p p p

02:24:54.800 --> 02:24:54.856
p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p p

02:24:54.880 --> 02:24:55.576
p p p p p p p p p p p p p piece of

02:24:55.600 --> 02:24:58.600
residual laneway that, um, , abuts a

02:25:00.399 --> 02:25:02.696
property that we recently purchased to

02:25:02.720 --> 02:25:05.720
expand Jim Dugen Reserve to deliver more

02:25:06.000 --> 02:25:08.536
open space for the residents of St Kilda

02:25:08.560 --> 02:25:11.560
East, Sinc Kilda, and Balaclava. Um, the

02:25:12.640 --> 02:25:14.536
removal of this or the discontinuence of

02:25:14.560 --> 02:25:16.295
this laneway will allow us to

02:25:16.319 --> 02:25:19.176
consolidate these parcels um and have a

02:25:19.200 --> 02:25:21.896
contiguous piece of open space here. um

02:25:21.920 --> 02:25:24.056
and unlocks more opportunities for what

02:25:24.080 --> 02:25:27.080
we do with this space. Um so  it is a

02:25:28.160 --> 02:25:31.160
an an essential an important step in

02:25:31.439 --> 02:25:34.439
realizing um more usable open space for

02:25:35.840 --> 02:25:37.896
the residents of this area. Um therefore

02:25:37.920 --> 02:25:40.920
I will support it.

02:25:40.960 --> 02:25:43.960
Council de Man, anyone like to speak to

02:25:44.000 --> 02:25:46.616
the motion? Let's put that to the vote.

02:25:46.640 --> 02:25:48.616
All those in favour that is carried

02:25:48.640 --> 02:25:50.375
unanimously.

02:25:50.399 --> 02:25:53.399
Thank you. Moving on to 13.3 property

02:25:53.680 --> 02:25:56.136
sorry proposed property lease at 14A

02:25:56.160 --> 02:25:59.160
Farage Place South Melbourne 3205. Any

02:26:00.240 --> 02:26:03.240
questions for the officers?

02:26:03.680 --> 02:26:05.335
Do I have a mover? Councelor Jay want to

02:26:05.359 --> 02:26:07.415
move this one? Yep. Great. And councelor

02:26:07.439 --> 02:26:10.439
M to second. Councelor Jay.

02:26:11.200 --> 02:26:12.936
 this is a really beautiful building.

02:26:12.960 --> 02:26:15.176
It's a hidden gem just backed up in the

02:26:15.200 --> 02:26:17.976
corner of South Melbourne. um  very

02:26:18.000 --> 02:26:21.000
proud to be issuing this lease to um the

02:26:21.359 --> 02:26:23.816
the Hellenic

02:26:23.840 --> 02:26:26.840
the Hellenic branch, the Helenic RSL. Um

02:26:27.040 --> 02:26:29.256
the Greek community is a massive part of

02:26:29.280 --> 02:26:31.896
our of our identity here, especially in

02:26:31.920 --> 02:26:34.455
South Melbourne. Um you know, they've

02:26:34.479 --> 02:26:37.176
been here over a hundred years. So to

02:26:37.200 --> 02:26:39.816
have um such an important part of our

02:26:39.840 --> 02:26:41.896
community and our DNA in this really

02:26:41.920 --> 02:26:43.976
beautiful building, I know they'll look

02:26:44.000 --> 02:26:45.816
after it. It's it's it's it's a bit of a

02:26:45.840 --> 02:26:47.415
home for them. So, I will absolutely

02:26:47.439 --> 02:26:50.056
support this. Thank you,

02:26:50.080 --> 02:26:51.496
Council Me.

02:26:51.520 --> 02:26:54.056
Thank you, Mayor. Um, I've had the

02:26:54.080 --> 02:26:56.936
pleasure of visiting this site and

02:26:56.960 --> 02:26:59.415
meeting with the executive group,

02:26:59.439 --> 02:27:02.056
management group and also the members.

02:27:02.080 --> 02:27:05.080
They are very proud organization and

02:27:05.200 --> 02:27:08.200
they have every right to be. Note that

02:27:08.240 --> 02:27:11.176
it was proclaimed by order and council

02:27:11.200 --> 02:27:14.200
on 24th of April 1923.

02:27:14.240 --> 02:27:16.375
 they're still there going strong and

02:27:16.399 --> 02:27:19.399
 I absolutely support it and I know my

02:27:20.080 --> 02:27:21.816
fellow counselors will do the same.

02:27:21.840 --> 02:27:23.816
Thank you.

02:27:23.840 --> 02:27:25.256
Would anyone else like to speak to the

02:27:25.280 --> 02:27:27.016
motion?

02:27:27.040 --> 02:27:28.856
Let's put that to the vote. All those in

02:27:28.880 --> 02:27:31.880
favour that is carried unanimously.

02:27:32.160 --> 02:27:34.216
13.4 The City of Port Phillip Register

02:27:34.240 --> 02:27:37.240
of Laneways. Um update of the register.

02:27:37.280 --> 02:27:40.280
Any questions for the officers?

02:27:41.120 --> 02:27:43.176
Do I have a mover in a second then?

02:27:43.200 --> 02:27:45.896
Council Jay to move. Council Min to

02:27:45.920 --> 02:27:48.920
second. Councelor Jay.

02:27:50.000 --> 02:27:52.216
We've got a lot of laneways. Vicki knows

02:27:52.240 --> 02:27:55.240
I love the laneways. Um  happy to

02:27:55.520 --> 02:27:57.576
update this. They were incorrect. So,

02:27:57.600 --> 02:27:59.335
we're just bringing things into line.

02:27:59.359 --> 02:28:01.816
So,

02:28:01.840 --> 02:28:02.216
council

02:28:02.240 --> 02:28:05.240
Minister,

02:28:05.520 --> 02:28:07.176
I'm assuming no one else. Let's just put

02:28:07.200 --> 02:28:09.096
that to the vote. All those in favour

02:28:09.120 --> 02:28:12.120
that is carried unanimously.

02:28:13.120 --> 02:28:16.120
13.5 is the contract award for RFT

02:28:16.960 --> 02:28:19.016
triple0346 which is the mechanical

02:28:19.040 --> 02:28:22.040
service maintenance services maintenance

02:28:22.080 --> 02:28:23.816
another big contract council do we have

02:28:23.840 --> 02:28:26.840
any questions for the officers

02:28:28.319 --> 02:28:31.319
if not do I have a mover and a seconder

02:28:32.560 --> 02:28:34.696
council Jay to move why not you're on a

02:28:34.720 --> 02:28:36.455
roll

02:28:36.479 --> 02:28:39.479
council me thank you councelor Jay

02:28:39.920 --> 02:28:42.920
um this is a big goodbye for Lachlan. I

02:28:43.280 --> 02:28:45.496
think we've approved over $und00 million

02:28:45.520 --> 02:28:47.816
worth of contracts tonight. The trees,

02:28:47.840 --> 02:28:50.536
the parks, the beaches, and and

02:28:50.560 --> 02:28:53.560
everything. So, um I don't really have

02:28:54.399 --> 02:28:56.616
any questions. We've all seen tonight

02:28:56.640 --> 02:28:58.696
that we're very focused on the protocol

02:28:58.720 --> 02:29:00.295
behind contracts. It doesn't matter what

02:29:00.319 --> 02:29:02.455
the contracts for. We're ticking the

02:29:02.479 --> 02:29:04.936
boxes and and and um making sure that we

02:29:04.960 --> 02:29:07.960
get as much bang for buck. So, I support

02:29:11.200 --> 02:29:13.016
Council me.

02:29:13.040 --> 02:29:15.016
Thank you, Mayor. , this mechanical

02:29:15.040 --> 02:29:17.415
services maintenance contract  is the

02:29:17.439 --> 02:29:19.576
type of contract that would keep council

02:29:19.600 --> 02:29:22.216
officers awake at night. However, it's

02:29:22.240 --> 02:29:24.056
been in the very capable hands of our

02:29:24.080 --> 02:29:26.776
council officers who've  brought this

02:29:26.800 --> 02:29:29.800
to council and I heartily support it.

02:29:30.160 --> 02:29:31.896
Thank you.

02:29:31.920 --> 02:29:34.776
Anybody else?

02:29:34.800 --> 02:29:36.375
Let's take that to the vote. All those

02:29:36.399 --> 02:29:38.536
in favour, all those against. That is

02:29:38.560 --> 02:29:40.295
carried unanimously.

02:29:40.319 --> 02:29:41.576
Now, councilors, I'm just going to check

02:29:41.600 --> 02:29:43.096
in with you. Do you want five minutes

02:29:43.120 --> 02:29:44.936
before we go back to back on the notices

02:29:44.960 --> 02:29:47.016
of motion or let's just keep moving? All

02:29:47.040 --> 02:29:49.176
right, councilors, we have three notices

02:29:49.200 --> 02:29:51.976
of motion tonight. Um, item 14.1 is a

02:29:52.000 --> 02:29:53.656
motion raised by councelor Hardy in

02:29:53.680 --> 02:29:55.896
relation to parking permits. So, could

02:29:55.920 --> 02:29:58.920
we get that on the board on the screen?

02:29:59.680 --> 02:30:02.680
Um, so councelor Hardy, , you we've

02:30:02.800 --> 02:30:04.295
got you to move it. Who's who's going to

02:30:04.319 --> 02:30:06.295
second council Hardy's motion?

02:30:06.319 --> 02:30:08.455
I haven't alternative. Okay. Okay. In

02:30:08.479 --> 02:30:09.976
addition to my motion that has not been

02:30:10.000 --> 02:30:13.000
published, which is on the screen.

02:30:13.439 --> 02:30:15.176
Yeah, an alt motion. That's all right.

02:30:15.200 --> 02:30:17.335
Um, let's have a look.

02:30:17.359 --> 02:30:19.335
So, councelor Hardy, given that there's

02:30:19.359 --> 02:30:20.856
been some changes, could you read out

02:30:20.880 --> 02:30:23.736
the part in red for the people at home?

02:30:23.760 --> 02:30:26.455
And so, I need to read it.

02:30:26.479 --> 02:30:29.415
Okay, got it written down to report back

02:30:29.439 --> 02:30:31.176
to the resourcing and implications on

02:30:31.200 --> 02:30:33.335
council's existing work programs

02:30:33.359 --> 02:30:36.359
required to 2.1 update the parking

02:30:36.880 --> 02:30:39.880
management policy in the 2026 2027

02:30:40.240 --> 02:30:43.240
financial year. 2.2 Two, refresh the

02:30:43.359 --> 02:30:45.656
integrated transport strategy in the

02:30:45.680 --> 02:30:47.176
2026

02:30:47.200 --> 02:30:49.816
2027 financial year to accommodate

02:30:49.840 --> 02:30:52.136
updates on transport strategies and

02:30:52.160 --> 02:30:54.696
strengthen the strategic nexus between

02:30:54.720 --> 02:30:57.415
transport networks and parking parking

02:30:57.439 --> 02:30:59.576
demand. Notes that aligning these

02:30:59.600 --> 02:31:01.576
updates will support council's broader

02:31:01.600 --> 02:31:04.056
objectives around sustainable mobility,

02:31:04.080 --> 02:31:06.375
equitable access, and infrastructure

02:31:06.399 --> 02:31:08.455
efficiency.

02:31:08.479 --> 02:31:11.415
And who's going to second that? Council

02:31:11.439 --> 02:31:14.439
Min. Okay. So, before we go into the

02:31:14.720 --> 02:31:16.616
speech, councelor Hardy, um are there

02:31:16.640 --> 02:31:19.415
any questions for the officers?

02:31:19.439 --> 02:31:22.439
I have one. I'm really not across this

02:31:22.720 --> 02:31:25.720
one.  do we have any sense of how many

02:31:26.160 --> 02:31:29.160
properties this may affect cuz I think

02:31:29.200 --> 02:31:32.200
my concern is this is such a vexed area

02:31:34.000 --> 02:31:36.375
and I don't want to open Pandora's box.

02:31:36.399 --> 02:31:38.856
So, do we have any sense or until we do

02:31:38.880 --> 02:31:41.880
the work, we have no sense of

02:31:42.800 --> 02:31:44.856
um I'll I'll speak to that. It's Mike

02:31:44.880 --> 02:31:46.056
Fischer here.

02:31:46.080 --> 02:31:48.616
Thanks, Mike. So, yeah. So, good evening

02:31:48.640 --> 02:31:51.335
councilors and through you may so um as

02:31:51.359 --> 02:31:52.856
you mentioned it is it's fixed and

02:31:52.880 --> 02:31:55.256
there's you know you can pull one thread

02:31:55.280 --> 02:31:57.576
and something else goes. I think the

02:31:57.600 --> 02:32:00.600
team's just been looking at some initial

02:32:00.640 --> 02:32:03.640
numbers. So under the policy as it

02:32:03.840 --> 02:32:05.335
stands at the moment, so residential

02:32:05.359 --> 02:32:07.896
properties built after 1st of October

02:32:07.920 --> 02:32:10.616
2002 that have increase the number of

02:32:10.640 --> 02:32:12.776
dwellings on a property are ineligible

02:32:12.800 --> 02:32:15.800
for permits. And some initial numbers is

02:32:15.840 --> 02:32:18.840
about 18 12,000 properties in that

02:32:19.200 --> 02:32:21.976
category. Um from initial looking at it,

02:32:22.000 --> 02:32:25.000
we've had about 303 CRM in the last

02:32:26.880 --> 02:32:29.816
12 or so months. and that's categorized

02:32:29.840 --> 02:32:31.736
as properties who are not eligible for a

02:32:31.760 --> 02:32:33.976
permit where they're looking for a

02:32:34.000 --> 02:32:36.536
permit. So it it's a lot I think we're

02:32:36.560 --> 02:32:38.056
always looking to do this

02:32:38.080 --> 02:32:39.896
comprehensively. So we understand this

02:32:39.920 --> 02:32:42.295
is not you and this is one of the

02:32:42.319 --> 02:32:43.896
toughest parts of my job I suppose when

02:32:43.920 --> 02:32:45.096
we look at these and we're trying to

02:32:45.120 --> 02:32:47.816
understand and balance the needs. Um but

02:32:47.840 --> 02:32:50.840
there's a lot that when we pull a thread

02:32:51.520 --> 02:32:53.415
um you know you you you go the other way

02:32:53.439 --> 02:32:55.496
I suppose. So there there's there's

02:32:55.520 --> 02:32:57.016
quite a bit of work I think for us to

02:32:57.040 --> 02:33:00.040
understand the quantum and to work out

02:33:00.240 --> 02:33:03.096
the implications and ramifications of

02:33:03.120 --> 02:33:05.176
when we we change one thing what does

02:33:05.200 --> 02:33:06.936
that mean for other residents who are

02:33:06.960 --> 02:33:08.696
looking for the parking already have a

02:33:08.720 --> 02:33:11.096
permit those sort of things.

02:33:11.120 --> 02:33:12.616
Okay and can I just ask a follow-up

02:33:12.640 --> 02:33:15.016
question so when I say that does that is

02:33:15.040 --> 02:33:17.335
that referring to commercial or is that

02:33:17.359 --> 02:33:20.216
just ones that may

02:33:20.240 --> 02:33:23.240
um have just increased? So, so that's

02:33:23.520 --> 02:33:25.016
the ones that have just increased. I

02:33:25.040 --> 02:33:27.896
think we've got over 8,000 commercial

02:33:27.920 --> 02:33:29.415
properties with a commercial rating.

02:33:29.439 --> 02:33:32.439
Although not not all of those would be

02:33:32.479 --> 02:33:33.896
they wouldn't be all able to be

02:33:33.920 --> 02:33:35.656
converted to residential properties, but

02:33:35.680 --> 02:33:37.335
there's a there's a number I think and

02:33:37.359 --> 02:33:39.496
there's a number that we would need to

02:33:39.520 --> 02:33:42.520
go back and do some work to understand

02:33:42.880 --> 02:33:44.616
what this means because there's a lot

02:33:44.640 --> 02:33:46.696
and and and whether we then have to go

02:33:46.720 --> 02:33:48.776
back and look at all of those properties

02:33:48.800 --> 02:33:50.536
in the past that we haven't given a

02:33:50.560 --> 02:33:53.560
permit to. um that this would would

02:33:54.800 --> 02:33:57.800
affect um effectively.

02:33:57.840 --> 02:33:59.176
Okay. Thank you. Um councelor

02:33:59.200 --> 02:34:00.375
Holidayiday's got a question and then

02:34:00.399 --> 02:34:03.399
I'll have another question.

02:34:05.439 --> 02:34:07.415
Um can I ask a follow-up question? Do we

02:34:07.439 --> 02:34:10.439
have any sense of how much officer time,

02:34:11.120 --> 02:34:14.120
money, and and length that this re even

02:34:14.399 --> 02:34:17.096
this preliminary review would do to come

02:34:17.120 --> 02:34:18.856
back to us because I feel like it's a

02:34:18.880 --> 02:34:21.880
massive undertaking.

02:34:22.479 --> 02:34:25.479
Um yeah, through you may I think it it

02:34:25.520 --> 02:34:26.776
certainly is. I think at the moment

02:34:26.800 --> 02:34:29.415
we've we've planned in the team's

02:34:29.439 --> 02:34:31.976
planning for the  the integrated

02:34:32.000 --> 02:34:34.375
transport strategy which which we are

02:34:34.399 --> 02:34:36.375
already starting to plan for the buildup

02:34:36.399 --> 02:34:38.375
to have a replacement for 2028 and

02:34:38.399 --> 02:34:41.399
obviously a re a revised a policy a new

02:34:42.399 --> 02:34:44.136
policy in place for the at the same

02:34:44.160 --> 02:34:46.856
time. Um, so there's a lot of work for

02:34:46.880 --> 02:34:49.880
us to go back and just make sure that um

02:34:50.160 --> 02:34:51.976
we would put what work would be putting

02:34:52.000 --> 02:34:55.000
aside to start this work now um and move

02:34:55.840 --> 02:34:58.216
priorities around. thinking that it's

02:34:58.240 --> 02:35:00.536
going to take us a couple of months to

02:35:00.560 --> 02:35:02.136
understand that and be able to start

02:35:02.160 --> 02:35:05.160
reporting back to you on what that means

02:35:05.280 --> 02:35:06.776
and the implications for the other

02:35:06.800 --> 02:35:08.136
projects that we've currently got on the

02:35:08.160 --> 02:35:10.936
books that we'll need to to to move

02:35:10.960 --> 02:35:13.896
around to do this. outside of the the

02:35:13.920 --> 02:35:16.920
plan we already have um for looking at

02:35:17.120 --> 02:35:19.496
the integrated transport strategy and

02:35:19.520 --> 02:35:22.520
the policy um review um and for getting

02:35:24.640 --> 02:35:26.375
them ready for 2028.

02:35:26.399 --> 02:35:28.295
Okay, councelor Holidayiday.

02:35:28.319 --> 02:35:30.295
Yes, sorry. Can I  through you may

02:35:30.319 --> 02:35:32.455
thank you. Um can I just clarify here

02:35:32.479 --> 02:35:35.335
that the um

02:35:35.359 --> 02:35:38.359
 point one here does commit to a

02:35:38.720 --> 02:35:41.720
review whereas point 2 reports back on

02:35:42.880 --> 02:35:45.576
the resourcing required to undertake

02:35:45.600 --> 02:35:48.136
those further reviews of the IT and the

02:35:48.160 --> 02:35:50.375
parking policy. So point 2 does not

02:35:50.399 --> 02:35:52.536
commit us to a review of the IT or the

02:35:52.560 --> 02:35:54.856
parking policy. It merely identifies how

02:35:54.880 --> 02:35:56.696
much work there would be. Whereas point

02:35:56.720 --> 02:35:59.176
one obviously does commit to a review of

02:35:59.200 --> 02:36:01.816
this um this specific element of the

02:36:01.840 --> 02:36:04.840
parking policy.

02:36:06.000 --> 02:36:09.000
But okay um can I Mike did you want to

02:36:09.760 --> 02:36:11.256
respond to that?

02:36:11.280 --> 02:36:11.736
Yes.

02:36:11.760 --> 02:36:13.816
So through you so as I as I read them.

02:36:13.840 --> 02:36:16.840
Yes. So so the first part is is would be

02:36:16.880 --> 02:36:19.880
undertaking a review um of those

02:36:20.240 --> 02:36:23.096
particular those particular clauses. Um

02:36:23.120 --> 02:36:25.736
but the second part is looking at the

02:36:25.760 --> 02:36:27.736
resourcing implications on our work

02:36:27.760 --> 02:36:30.760
program to bring forward effectively

02:36:31.760 --> 02:36:34.760
um the the the the policy

02:36:35.600 --> 02:36:38.455
um up update or review and the

02:36:38.479 --> 02:36:40.776
integrated transport strategy including

02:36:40.800 --> 02:36:42.936
the um incorporation of the fisherman's

02:36:42.960 --> 02:36:45.656
benwork. So yeah, so the second part

02:36:45.680 --> 02:36:47.896
definitely is a is a report back on the

02:36:47.920 --> 02:36:49.896
implications of what it's going to take

02:36:49.920 --> 02:36:52.616
to do that. Um

02:36:52.640 --> 02:36:55.640
I the the the the second part is is not

02:36:57.359 --> 02:36:59.176
um obviously the full review but it does

02:36:59.200 --> 02:37:01.096
take some work for us to go and make

02:37:01.120 --> 02:37:04.120
sure that we  are clear when we come

02:37:04.240 --> 02:37:06.536
back to you on what we would need to be

02:37:06.560 --> 02:37:08.455
moving around what we would be rep

02:37:08.479 --> 02:37:10.696
prioritizing to be able to do that work

02:37:10.720 --> 02:37:12.616
and bring things forward.

02:37:12.640 --> 02:37:13.256
Okay.

02:37:13.280 --> 02:37:15.415
So still some still significant work to

02:37:15.439 --> 02:37:16.136
do that.

02:37:16.160 --> 02:37:18.056
Council consol and I'll come around. I

02:37:18.080 --> 02:37:19.176
see lots of questions.

02:37:19.200 --> 02:37:21.176
Thank you. Is there a word or anything

02:37:21.200 --> 02:37:23.415
that could be added that sort of scales

02:37:23.439 --> 02:37:25.576
this down? Because I think that notice

02:37:25.600 --> 02:37:27.496
emotions are really tricky where we

02:37:27.520 --> 02:37:29.256
don't get the kind of background. I only

02:37:29.280 --> 02:37:31.016
want like a three to four page report

02:37:31.040 --> 02:37:33.016
that just kind of gives us the general

02:37:33.040 --> 02:37:36.040
over  view to review and discuss

02:37:36.399 --> 02:37:39.176
further. So nurse emotions like this are

02:37:39.200 --> 02:37:41.656
saying um this isn't currently what

02:37:41.680 --> 02:37:43.335
we're doing, but I've identified a pro

02:37:43.359 --> 02:37:45.096
problem and I want to talk about it.

02:37:45.120 --> 02:37:47.976
Right? And I think as a group, we'd

02:37:48.000 --> 02:37:49.016
probably be comfortable going, "All

02:37:49.040 --> 02:37:50.455
right, well, what's what's kind of like

02:37:50.479 --> 02:37:53.479
the the gist of this instead of saying,

02:37:53.920 --> 02:37:55.896
"Let's go and jump into a full review."

02:37:55.920 --> 02:37:58.216
Is there like the word desktop review or

02:37:58.240 --> 02:38:01.240
anything that kind of scales this down?

02:38:01.680 --> 02:38:03.576
Um, will I go to Mike or will I go to

02:38:03.600 --> 02:38:06.600
CEO

02:38:07.280 --> 02:38:09.415
through you, Mayor? I think that would

02:38:09.439 --> 02:38:11.335
be helpful. I'd have to think through

02:38:11.359 --> 02:38:14.056
the wording

02:38:14.080 --> 02:38:17.080
just hearing the officer Mike speak

02:38:17.120 --> 02:38:19.656
tonight just around just getting a

02:38:19.680 --> 02:38:21.176
broader understanding of what the

02:38:21.200 --> 02:38:23.176
potential implications are like how many

02:38:23.200 --> 02:38:25.176
properties would potentially be eligible

02:38:25.200 --> 02:38:28.200
that would inform a decision about um

02:38:30.000 --> 02:38:31.415
whether you want to undertake further

02:38:31.439 --> 02:38:33.016
work in actually reviewing the policy or

02:38:33.040 --> 02:38:34.455
not. We haven't had an opportunity to do

02:38:34.479 --> 02:38:37.479
that work yet. Um,

02:38:40.160 --> 02:38:42.936
can I have a minute to think through

02:38:42.960 --> 02:38:43.976
that?

02:38:44.000 --> 02:38:46.136
Yeah, I'll just just finish up. So, did

02:38:46.160 --> 02:38:49.160
you want you finish there?

02:38:50.560 --> 02:38:53.096
Maybe even if we just admend the first

02:38:53.120 --> 02:38:55.736
part to provide a like a three-page

02:38:55.760 --> 02:38:58.056
report back. So, it's very much

02:38:58.080 --> 02:38:59.656
identifying that this is something

02:38:59.680 --> 02:39:02.375
that's quite limited. I I know that's

02:39:02.399 --> 02:39:04.936
not a normal way to do it, but I'm not

02:39:04.960 --> 02:39:07.096
sure if a word like the desktop review

02:39:07.120 --> 02:39:10.120
is the proper definition either.

02:39:10.560 --> 02:39:12.216
Okay, you see, I was thinking about it,

02:39:12.240 --> 02:39:14.216
councelor Jay, what was your question?

02:39:14.240 --> 02:39:17.240
Um um at what point were we going to

02:39:18.000 --> 02:39:19.415
have a look at the parking management

02:39:19.439 --> 02:39:21.096
policy? I believe that it was on the

02:39:21.120 --> 02:39:23.096
agenda. Would this work have been

02:39:23.120 --> 02:39:26.120
required when it came to us in um you

02:39:26.880 --> 02:39:29.176
know, in our timetable? And just to

02:39:29.200 --> 02:39:32.056
clarify, no one's asking for 18,500

02:39:32.080 --> 02:39:34.056
properties to be giving permits. What

02:39:34.080 --> 02:39:36.216
we're asking for is to review perhaps

02:39:36.240 --> 02:39:38.536
the exceptional circumstances and maybe

02:39:38.560 --> 02:39:41.415
focus on those 303 CRM and have a look

02:39:41.439 --> 02:39:43.496
if perhaps this rule is inhibiting

02:39:43.520 --> 02:39:46.056
growth, inhibiting more  you know,

02:39:46.080 --> 02:39:47.016
we're in a

02:39:47.040 --> 02:39:48.056
you're asking a question rather than

02:39:48.080 --> 02:39:49.176
making a statement. Sorry, I'm going to

02:39:49.200 --> 02:39:51.096
go back to the question part. So when

02:39:51.120 --> 02:39:52.696
was it coming to us?

02:39:52.720 --> 02:39:55.576
Sorry, Mike. When was it coming to us or

02:39:55.600 --> 02:39:57.496
was there an opportunity for us

02:39:57.520 --> 02:39:59.576
planned? So through you may so the the

02:39:59.600 --> 02:40:02.536
policy runs until 2028. So we would be

02:40:02.560 --> 02:40:05.560
we'd be before that be starting to and

02:40:05.760 --> 02:40:07.016
looking at our work program at the

02:40:07.040 --> 02:40:08.776
moment for the next couple of years. So

02:40:08.800 --> 02:40:11.800
beyond Christmas time so with the it

02:40:12.720 --> 02:40:14.856
policy what it's going to take to do the

02:40:14.880 --> 02:40:17.576
review work look at peer reviews um and

02:40:17.600 --> 02:40:19.415
obviously community engagement working

02:40:19.439 --> 02:40:22.136
with yourselves. So that would be

02:40:22.160 --> 02:40:23.415
building up over the next couple of

02:40:23.439 --> 02:40:25.576
years. So, we'd have a policy in place

02:40:25.600 --> 02:40:27.656
for that 2028

02:40:27.680 --> 02:40:30.295
um time frame.

02:40:30.319 --> 02:40:31.816
Followup question, council console, and

02:40:31.840 --> 02:40:33.256
then I'll go to councelor Buckingham.

02:40:33.280 --> 02:40:36.280
 within the things that councilors can

02:40:36.800 --> 02:40:39.800
do and ask for, I I can clearly see that

02:40:40.319 --> 02:40:42.455
there's um an issue that's been raised

02:40:42.479 --> 02:40:44.856
and a question asked here. Other than

02:40:44.880 --> 02:40:47.816
this motion, could this  if it were to

02:40:47.840 --> 02:40:49.256
fail tonight, what were the what would

02:40:49.280 --> 02:40:51.736
be the avenues for the counselor who

02:40:51.760 --> 02:40:53.496
wants more information on it? it. Could

02:40:53.520 --> 02:40:55.335
an email suffice and then we can come

02:40:55.359 --> 02:40:58.359
back and decide what to do with it

02:40:59.040 --> 02:41:02.040
through you may

02:41:02.560 --> 02:41:05.496
um there's probably three part three

02:41:05.520 --> 02:41:06.696
potential options there and probably

02:41:06.720 --> 02:41:08.295
that might be related a little bit we

02:41:08.319 --> 02:41:11.319
could review the wording to say conduct

02:41:11.520 --> 02:41:14.520
a highle desktop review to understand

02:41:16.000 --> 02:41:18.616
the implications or the I'd think of

02:41:18.640 --> 02:41:19.736
some wording around that which means

02:41:19.760 --> 02:41:22.056
that we might do a two-page come back

02:41:22.080 --> 02:41:24.216
and talk about

02:41:24.240 --> 02:41:26.536
um the scale of the work, the potential

02:41:26.560 --> 02:41:28.856
implications without doing a full policy

02:41:28.880 --> 02:41:30.536
review. The full policy review kind of

02:41:30.560 --> 02:41:32.295
infers that we go and consult with the

02:41:32.319 --> 02:41:34.696
community, make changes in that way. For

02:41:34.720 --> 02:41:36.856
instance,

02:41:36.880 --> 02:41:39.656
secondly, we could alternatively um

02:41:39.680 --> 02:41:42.616
respond to a request for information

02:41:42.640 --> 02:41:45.576
from a counselor  along similar kind

02:41:45.600 --> 02:41:48.600
of lines. Um

02:41:48.800 --> 02:41:51.335
and thirdly, I believe the team are

02:41:51.359 --> 02:41:53.415
doing a bit of a desktop review of the

02:41:53.439 --> 02:41:55.176
parking management policy, not in

02:41:55.200 --> 02:41:58.200
totality, but just as a um we've got a

02:41:58.720 --> 02:42:01.720
new  head of in at the moment in

02:42:03.120 --> 02:42:06.120
transport who was looking at just a few

02:42:06.399 --> 02:42:09.176
little things  in that space. Not a

02:42:09.200 --> 02:42:10.936
full review, but  there's any

02:42:10.960 --> 02:42:13.816
opportunities for um improved customer

02:42:13.840 --> 02:42:16.375
experience. So again, we could do some

02:42:16.399 --> 02:42:18.375
scoping work as part of as part of that,

02:42:18.399 --> 02:42:21.399
but I'm not sure of the time frame.

02:42:21.920 --> 02:42:24.295
, yep. Okay. So, I'm going to go

02:42:24.319 --> 02:42:27.319
councelor Buckingham.

02:42:28.319 --> 02:42:30.536
Does this notice of motion comply with

02:42:30.560 --> 02:42:32.776
our governance requirements? My

02:42:32.800 --> 02:42:35.800
understanding was that if there was a

02:42:35.920 --> 02:42:38.920
notice of motion that had significant

02:42:39.840 --> 02:42:41.096
officer time,

02:42:41.120 --> 02:42:41.816
yeah,

02:42:41.840 --> 02:42:44.840
 I think rewriting work plans would

02:42:45.840 --> 02:42:48.840
fall into that category and I question

02:42:49.359 --> 02:42:52.359
whether we're even allowed to do this.

02:42:52.560 --> 02:42:55.560
Yeah, it's got huge implications.

02:42:56.240 --> 02:42:59.096
Um, so I'm not sure on a government like

02:42:59.120 --> 02:43:01.496
it's it's it's committ

02:43:01.520 --> 02:43:03.816
through you may I think to be honest in

02:43:03.840 --> 02:43:05.415
my initial review of it I hadn't

02:43:05.439 --> 02:43:07.656
intended that we'd do a full policy

02:43:07.680 --> 02:43:09.736
review but in in here in the office I

02:43:09.760 --> 02:43:12.696
kind of talk to the conversation tonight

02:43:12.720 --> 02:43:15.335
like depending on how we interpret the

02:43:15.359 --> 02:43:18.295
request would determine the scale of

02:43:18.319 --> 02:43:20.616
work that we would need to do. I think

02:43:20.640 --> 02:43:23.496
reporting back on what it would take to

02:43:23.520 --> 02:43:26.136
to conduct  to change the work

02:43:26.160 --> 02:43:28.455
program, bring the work program forward.

02:43:28.479 --> 02:43:30.616
Um I think that's within the scope of a

02:43:30.640 --> 02:43:32.136
notice of motion and that's sometime

02:43:32.160 --> 02:43:34.856
that's usually a preferred way of if

02:43:34.880 --> 02:43:36.696
councils are interested to come back for

02:43:36.720 --> 02:43:38.936
us to report back on what it would take

02:43:38.960 --> 02:43:40.696
as opposed to committing to doing a

02:43:40.720 --> 02:43:41.256
review.

02:43:41.280 --> 02:43:42.776
Councelor Buckim to follow up.

02:43:42.800 --> 02:43:45.415
So to clarify the wording of the current

02:43:45.439 --> 02:43:47.096
notice of motion is to review the

02:43:47.120 --> 02:43:48.295
current policy.

02:43:48.319 --> 02:43:51.319
Yeah. So it's not to provide council

02:43:51.439 --> 02:43:54.295
with a report into the policy settings

02:43:54.319 --> 02:43:57.319
or into the processes to to

02:43:57.840 --> 02:43:58.455
massive

02:43:58.479 --> 02:44:00.616
undergo this. I feel like this is a

02:44:00.640 --> 02:44:03.640
major step and it's got very big 

02:44:06.800 --> 02:44:09.096
implications for resourcing and for our

02:44:09.120 --> 02:44:12.120
current work plans and I really question

02:44:12.720 --> 02:44:15.720
the governance principles behind it.

02:44:17.279 --> 02:44:20.279
So following on that, is there a way of

02:44:20.399 --> 02:44:23.399
 for councilors to amend it to or with

02:44:24.000 --> 02:44:25.576
the mayor's

02:44:25.600 --> 02:44:27.736
point of order?  I think the clause

02:44:27.760 --> 02:44:30.056
we're looking for is 29.1 in terms of

02:44:30.080 --> 02:44:31.896
someone proposing an amendment if this

02:44:31.920 --> 02:44:34.920
should be a concern to item one.

02:44:35.040 --> 02:44:38.040
No, but I'm I'm asking officers, what

02:44:38.399 --> 02:44:40.295
would I know we can do amend, but I'm

02:44:40.319 --> 02:44:43.319
I'm asking if this is too the actual

02:44:43.439 --> 02:44:45.736
current wording is too big. it it's too

02:44:45.760 --> 02:44:48.760
broad in scale. Is there would there be

02:44:49.200 --> 02:44:50.696
recommended words as back to councelor

02:44:50.720 --> 02:44:53.415
consolo to limit this

02:44:53.439 --> 02:44:56.439
that you would recommend

02:44:56.720 --> 02:44:59.176
through you may when I read it I hadn't

02:44:59.200 --> 02:45:01.896
interpreted it in the same way

02:45:01.920 --> 02:45:04.056
potentially as the officers have in

02:45:04.080 --> 02:45:05.656
terms of the scale of the review that's

02:45:05.680 --> 02:45:08.136
being asked for in my reading of it when

02:45:08.160 --> 02:45:11.016
I read it and I approved it I was

02:45:11.040 --> 02:45:13.016
thinking there'd be a two or three page

02:45:13.040 --> 02:45:15.096
kind of response um that would then

02:45:15.120 --> 02:45:16.616
inform whether you do want to go ahead

02:45:16.640 --> 02:45:17.415
with

02:45:17.439 --> 02:45:19.736
a a review

02:45:19.760 --> 02:45:22.760
um as opposed to a full policy review

02:45:23.439 --> 02:45:25.016
and you know public engagement

02:45:25.040 --> 02:45:26.696
consultation.

02:45:26.720 --> 02:45:27.176
Um

02:45:27.200 --> 02:45:28.455
what words could we put in there to

02:45:28.479 --> 02:45:30.936
ensure that that would be the case if we

02:45:30.960 --> 02:45:33.960
wanted to put them in?

02:45:38.479 --> 02:45:41.096
Excuse me, mayor. I'd like to propose an

02:45:41.120 --> 02:45:42.536
amendment.

02:45:42.560 --> 02:45:44.216
Yep. Yep. Okay. Okay, we'll hear from

02:45:44.240 --> 02:45:45.335
council me.

02:45:45.359 --> 02:45:47.736
Under point one,

02:45:47.760 --> 02:45:49.576
remove the words review the current

02:45:49.600 --> 02:45:52.600
policy and replace it with report back

02:45:53.840 --> 02:45:55.896
on the current policy.

02:45:55.920 --> 02:45:57.736
That's just council.

02:45:57.760 --> 02:45:59.976
Excuse me, mayor. It already asked to

02:46:00.000 --> 02:46:01.896
report back in that sentence. So, I

02:46:01.920 --> 02:46:03.576
think that wouldn't

02:46:03.600 --> 02:46:05.736
solve the problem. Look, I'm going to

02:46:05.760 --> 02:46:06.936
suggest we take five minutes. All right,

02:46:06.960 --> 02:46:08.295
everyone, take a break because we have

02:46:08.319 --> 02:46:11.319
to work this out. Um, yeah.

02:46:14.080 --> 02:46:17.080
So C we are going to resume.

02:46:17.200 --> 02:46:18.856
So councelor Hardy are you all right

02:46:18.880 --> 02:46:20.776
with the added words of undertake a

02:46:20.800 --> 02:46:23.800
preliminary desktop review?

02:46:24.880 --> 02:46:25.816
I am.

02:46:25.840 --> 02:46:28.056
Okay great.

02:46:28.080 --> 02:46:29.976
Okay councilors are there I'm going to

02:46:30.000 --> 02:46:31.496
go back to the questions now that that's

02:46:31.520 --> 02:46:32.616
been added in. I actually should check

02:46:32.640 --> 02:46:34.375
with the second council m are you okay

02:46:34.399 --> 02:46:35.255
with that too?

02:46:35.279 --> 02:46:36.216
 yes.

02:46:36.240 --> 02:46:38.776
 are there any further questions now

02:46:38.800 --> 02:46:40.856
that we've added that little bit in?

02:46:40.880 --> 02:46:42.936
Does that

02:46:42.960 --> 02:46:45.896
Can we go to All right, Councelor Hardy.

02:46:45.920 --> 02:46:48.776
Um, your the floor is open to you to

02:46:48.800 --> 02:46:51.016
speak and you have four minutes.

02:46:51.040 --> 02:46:54.040
Okay. This  this came about when a

02:46:54.240 --> 02:46:57.240
property built before 2002

02:46:57.439 --> 02:47:00.216
was previously 

02:47:00.240 --> 02:47:03.240
categorized as um  a residential and

02:47:05.120 --> 02:47:08.120
then obviously it was converted into a

02:47:08.640 --> 02:47:10.936
doctor surgery which took minimal

02:47:10.960 --> 02:47:13.960
conversion and it was then sold and the

02:47:14.319 --> 02:47:17.319
property was returned to residential by

02:47:17.439 --> 02:47:20.439
the new owner and therefore classified

02:47:20.720 --> 02:47:22.616
residential. potential by our rates

02:47:22.640 --> 02:47:25.640
department under the current policy. It

02:47:26.319 --> 02:47:28.936
was refused the resident was refused the

02:47:28.960 --> 02:47:31.960
parking permit. Now, in my opinion that

02:47:32.720 --> 02:47:35.016
 it's certainly not fair and equitable

02:47:35.040 --> 02:47:38.040
and it his situation or this situation

02:47:38.240 --> 02:47:40.616
was not designed to be captured in the

02:47:40.640 --> 02:47:42.856
current policy in relation to converting

02:47:42.880 --> 02:47:44.536
commercial properties into residential

02:47:44.560 --> 02:47:47.560
properties. And in my opinion, it may

02:47:48.080 --> 02:47:50.856
just be a one-off. So what I'm asking

02:47:50.880 --> 02:47:53.880
for is for a review of those exceptional

02:47:54.640 --> 02:47:57.096
well a review of the application and

02:47:57.120 --> 02:47:59.496
exceptional circumstances to be applied

02:47:59.520 --> 02:48:02.520
in relation to a poor resident who has

02:48:02.640 --> 02:48:05.016
to walk nearly a kilometer to park his

02:48:05.040 --> 02:48:08.040
car in an area that  isn't um covered

02:48:08.560 --> 02:48:11.560
by the parking policy.

02:48:12.800 --> 02:48:14.696
Okay, counc.

02:48:14.720 --> 02:48:16.696
I second this motion because of the

02:48:16.720 --> 02:48:19.016
second section that takes what is

02:48:19.040 --> 02:48:21.176
individual circumstances into going is

02:48:21.200 --> 02:48:23.415
there a broader question around policy

02:48:23.439 --> 02:48:26.136
and when you look at and there are

02:48:26.160 --> 02:48:27.656
pressures on parking but those pressures

02:48:27.680 --> 02:48:29.896
on parking are symptomatic of our

02:48:29.920 --> 02:48:31.896
transport networks. So if we are going

02:48:31.920 --> 02:48:34.536
to look at individual cases, we need to

02:48:34.560 --> 02:48:37.016
take this back to a question of what are

02:48:37.040 --> 02:48:39.415
the policy settings. How do we manage

02:48:39.439 --> 02:48:42.056
limited space around parking and what is

02:48:42.080 --> 02:48:44.056
the connection between parking and

02:48:44.080 --> 02:48:45.496
obviously our integrated transport

02:48:45.520 --> 02:48:47.736
networks. Since that time we have

02:48:47.760 --> 02:48:50.375
obviously had a whole range of shifts in

02:48:50.399 --> 02:48:52.936
terms of state government direction

02:48:52.960 --> 02:48:54.776
around fisherman's bend as an example

02:48:54.800 --> 02:48:57.576
and other transport nodes. We need to

02:48:57.600 --> 02:48:59.736
look at ensuring that transport and

02:48:59.760 --> 02:49:01.255
parking are interconnected, which they

02:49:01.279 --> 02:49:03.816
are, and how our community gets around

02:49:03.840 --> 02:49:06.696
and how they do that as sustainably, as

02:49:06.720 --> 02:49:09.720
equitably, as fairly as possible.

02:49:10.319 --> 02:49:12.696
That's why I am supporting this motion.

02:49:12.720 --> 02:49:15.720
Councelor J. Um, I will be supporting

02:49:16.000 --> 02:49:18.295
this motion. I think we've heard tonight

02:49:18.319 --> 02:49:20.295
that we don't have a tram in Fishbend.

02:49:20.319 --> 02:49:22.856
The 606 isn't even a great frequency.

02:49:22.880 --> 02:49:25.496
And I heard in Lakeside the other day,

02:49:25.520 --> 02:49:27.255
um, people are driving to get bread and

02:49:27.279 --> 02:49:29.896
milk. Um, we would love to sit here and

02:49:29.920 --> 02:49:32.375
say we don't need cars. Um, but the

02:49:32.399 --> 02:49:35.399
truth is we absolutely do. Um, this is a

02:49:36.319 --> 02:49:38.056
really interesting group of counselors.

02:49:38.080 --> 02:49:40.616
We have a bike lane expert, public

02:49:40.640 --> 02:49:43.335
transport expert, and a few parking. So,

02:49:43.359 --> 02:49:45.656
we are looking at this holistically,

02:49:45.680 --> 02:49:47.335
which is why this amendment's come

02:49:47.359 --> 02:49:49.176
through. we do understand that

02:49:49.200 --> 02:49:51.176
everything's connected and and and and

02:49:51.200 --> 02:49:53.255
we need to look at it um and look at

02:49:53.279 --> 02:49:55.255
that connectivity. So I will support

02:49:55.279 --> 02:49:58.279
this. Um I have come across living

02:49:58.880 --> 02:50:01.415
across with many apartment buildings in

02:50:01.439 --> 02:50:04.439
in my area. Um there's a situation where

02:50:04.640 --> 02:50:06.536
half the residents in a building are

02:50:06.560 --> 02:50:09.096
eligible for for a permit and the other

02:50:09.120 --> 02:50:11.335
half are not because at one stage their

02:50:11.359 --> 02:50:13.576
apartment was leased out to Quest

02:50:13.600 --> 02:50:15.816
apartment many moons ago. So that is

02:50:15.840 --> 02:50:18.840
exactly just voided any future um any

02:50:19.520 --> 02:50:21.896
future owners or renters from having the

02:50:21.920 --> 02:50:24.375
privilege which um is should really be

02:50:24.399 --> 02:50:26.295
connected to the rates if it was built

02:50:26.319 --> 02:50:29.319
before a certain time. So  I think a

02:50:29.359 --> 02:50:32.359
review is imperative. Um

02:50:32.800 --> 02:50:35.800
yeah so I support

02:50:36.560 --> 02:50:39.560
support this motion to investigate what

02:50:39.600 --> 02:50:41.896
we can do. You can't say that we want an

02:50:41.920 --> 02:50:44.455
active um area. you want um more

02:50:44.479 --> 02:50:47.016
residents and and and the truth is a lot

02:50:47.040 --> 02:50:50.040
of people don't have anywhere to park.

02:50:50.160 --> 02:50:53.160
Councelor Holidayiday,

02:50:54.240 --> 02:50:56.936
 I'm going to support this motion. I

02:50:56.960 --> 02:50:59.576
think um it's important. I'm sure Mike

02:50:59.600 --> 02:51:01.736
is well aware of this of the  law of

02:51:01.760 --> 02:51:04.760
unintended consequences and um the

02:51:04.800 --> 02:51:06.455
issues here with the edge cases that

02:51:06.479 --> 02:51:09.479
we're talking about um where you where

02:51:10.080 --> 02:51:13.016
I'm sure they will take due care in

02:51:13.040 --> 02:51:16.040
thinking about this to account for other

02:51:16.080 --> 02:51:18.136
situations where a commercial building

02:51:18.160 --> 02:51:20.056
might be turned into residential and

02:51:20.080 --> 02:51:23.080
suddenly unleash

02:51:23.359 --> 02:51:26.359
huge number of new residents all vying

02:51:27.520 --> 02:51:30.375
for on street parking  into an area

02:51:30.399 --> 02:51:33.399
that might not have been um cons

02:51:33.920 --> 02:51:36.920
considered for that level of um of 

02:51:37.840 --> 02:51:40.455
car utilization when it was originally

02:51:40.479 --> 02:51:43.479
built um or in the conversion in fact um

02:51:44.479 --> 02:51:46.375
and

02:51:46.399 --> 02:51:48.856
in this future

02:51:48.880 --> 02:51:51.880
where we have

02:51:52.000 --> 02:51:55.000
150 or 180,000 residents here um our car

02:51:56.960 --> 02:51:59.896
owner ownership rates are unsustainable

02:51:59.920 --> 02:52:02.920
as they are now. So,

02:52:03.359 --> 02:52:05.255
I don't think there's a future where

02:52:05.279 --> 02:52:08.279
everyone is going to be entitled

02:52:08.479 --> 02:52:11.479
to a car. Um, and the space on the roads

02:52:12.319 --> 02:52:14.856
or the permits that go with the houses

02:52:14.880 --> 02:52:17.335
are the only ways that we can control

02:52:17.359 --> 02:52:19.415
these things other than people getting

02:52:19.439 --> 02:52:21.255
jack of driving when they're sick of

02:52:21.279 --> 02:52:24.279
sitting in traffic or can't find a park

02:52:24.960 --> 02:52:26.856
um, and have given up on driving around

02:52:26.880 --> 02:52:28.776
in circles for however much of their

02:52:28.800 --> 02:52:31.800
life. So, these are big issues, but this

02:52:32.000 --> 02:52:34.536
is the not

02:52:34.560 --> 02:52:36.136
not the start of the discussion, but

02:52:36.160 --> 02:52:37.496
it's part the next step of the

02:52:37.520 --> 02:52:39.976
discussion about tackling these issues.

02:52:40.000 --> 02:52:41.896
So, I will support this.

02:52:41.920 --> 02:52:44.920
Anyone else wish to speak to the motion?

02:52:46.000 --> 02:52:47.096
Councelor Hardy, would you like to

02:52:47.120 --> 02:52:49.335
close?

02:52:49.359 --> 02:52:51.576
Residents who pay rates and live in

02:52:51.600 --> 02:52:53.576
residential streets are certainly

02:52:53.600 --> 02:52:55.736
entitled to park their car close to

02:52:55.760 --> 02:52:58.056
their home and entitled to a residential

02:52:58.080 --> 02:53:01.080
parking permit.

02:53:01.680 --> 02:53:03.016
Okay, let's put that to the vote. All

02:53:03.040 --> 02:53:05.576
those in favour, that is carried

02:53:05.600 --> 02:53:07.176
unanimously.

02:53:07.200 --> 02:53:09.176
counselors, I have to look at the words

02:53:09.200 --> 02:53:12.200
given where we are tonight. Oh,

02:53:13.920 --> 02:53:16.136
, no, we not going to get through. So,

02:53:16.160 --> 02:53:17.255
I'm going to extend I'm going to have

02:53:17.279 --> 02:53:18.856
request extension of time. This is the

02:53:18.880 --> 02:53:20.856
trouble with teams is really crap now

02:53:20.880 --> 02:53:22.616
that they've put them in the same Sorry,

02:53:22.640 --> 02:53:24.455
they've put the chat and the off in the

02:53:24.479 --> 02:53:27.255
same. So, councilors, um, in line with

02:53:27.279 --> 02:53:28.616
provision 10.2 of the government's

02:53:28.640 --> 02:53:30.696
rules, um, they will extend the meeting

02:53:30.720 --> 02:53:32.216
on the 15th of October by 30 minutes

02:53:32.240 --> 02:53:34.776
until 10:30 p.m. So, councilors, I need

02:53:34.800 --> 02:53:36.696
a mover and a seconder to do this. So,

02:53:36.720 --> 02:53:38.375
councelor Jada to move and councelor M

02:53:38.399 --> 02:53:40.136
to second. Let's put that to the vote.

02:53:40.160 --> 02:53:43.160
All those in favour that is carried

02:53:45.520 --> 02:53:48.520
unanimously.

02:53:48.640 --> 02:53:49.976
All right, we'll keep moving. We'll keep

02:53:50.000 --> 02:53:51.656
moving. Hopefully, we won't have to get

02:53:51.680 --> 02:53:53.576
to a second extension of time. So, now

02:53:53.600 --> 02:53:56.600
we are going to a motion  item 14.2 is

02:53:56.640 --> 02:53:58.216
a motion raised by councelor Min in

02:53:58.240 --> 02:53:59.816
relation to the Victorian carded play

02:53:59.840 --> 02:54:02.136
trial for electronic gaming machines.

02:54:02.160 --> 02:54:05.160
Could we get that on the screen please?

02:54:07.840 --> 02:54:09.736
and council and councelor M is going to

02:54:09.760 --> 02:54:12.760
second it. Thank you. Um so before we go

02:54:12.960 --> 02:54:15.960
into it  open to questions councilors

02:54:18.240 --> 02:54:19.496
and now I've got it. This is why I don't

02:54:19.520 --> 02:54:20.856
like teams. Can I just bring it over

02:54:20.880 --> 02:54:23.880
your shoulder?

02:54:35.120 --> 02:54:38.120
Sorry.

02:54:49.439 --> 02:54:51.496
I don't.

02:54:51.520 --> 02:54:54.520
Yeah,

02:54:56.319 --> 02:54:59.319
this was what's in the agenda was what?

02:55:00.960 --> 02:55:01.656
Yes.

02:55:01.680 --> 02:55:02.536
Is that that one?

02:55:02.560 --> 02:55:05.176
Yeah.

02:55:05.200 --> 02:55:08.200
No. , this

02:55:08.300 --> 02:55:11.300
[Music]

02:55:19.359 --> 02:55:20.696
folks at home, just bear with us while

02:55:20.720 --> 02:55:22.455
we get this on the screen.

02:55:22.479 --> 02:55:24.056
I'm happy to read it.

02:55:24.080 --> 02:55:25.576
Maybe you should read it while we

02:55:25.600 --> 02:55:27.656
 while that's being updated.  the

02:55:27.680 --> 02:55:30.056
motion before us is that council notes

02:55:30.080 --> 02:55:32.455
the advocacy un under undertaken by the

02:55:32.479 --> 02:55:34.056
alliance for gambling reform regarding

02:55:34.080 --> 02:55:35.976
the state government's electronic gaming

02:55:36.000 --> 02:55:37.976
machine pre-commitment trial which is

02:55:38.000 --> 02:55:40.616
running from September to November 201

02:55:40.640 --> 02:55:43.176
20 2025 and specifically regarding its

02:55:43.200 --> 02:55:45.096
focus on harm prevention within the

02:55:45.120 --> 02:55:47.976
trial. , item two, requests the mayor

02:55:48.000 --> 02:55:49.415
write to the Alliance for Gambling

02:55:49.439 --> 02:55:51.576
Reform outlining our support for their

02:55:51.600 --> 02:55:54.056
advocacy in relation to the electronic

02:55:54.080 --> 02:55:56.295
gaming machine pre-commitment trial.

02:55:56.319 --> 02:55:58.375
Three, requests the mayor write to the

02:55:58.399 --> 02:55:59.816
Minister for Casino, Gambling, and

02:55:59.840 --> 02:56:01.736
Liquor Regulation, seeking recognition

02:56:01.760 --> 02:56:04.295
of councils as an important stakeholder

02:56:04.319 --> 02:56:06.455
alongside industry and calling for

02:56:06.479 --> 02:56:08.295
councils to be involved in all

02:56:08.319 --> 02:56:10.616
significant decision-making processes

02:56:10.640 --> 02:56:13.576
related to the trial. Item four agrees

02:56:13.600 --> 02:56:15.335
to be a signary to a joint letter of

02:56:15.359 --> 02:56:17.176
advocacy to the state government with

02:56:17.200 --> 02:56:19.096
other relevant councils advocating for

02:56:19.120 --> 02:56:21.335
harm prevention to form a key part of

02:56:21.359 --> 02:56:23.176
the electronic gaming machine

02:56:23.200 --> 02:56:25.255
pre-commitment trial.

02:56:25.279 --> 02:56:27.335
Thank you councilors. Do we have any

02:56:27.359 --> 02:56:30.359
questions for the officers or council?

02:56:32.640 --> 02:56:34.856
Council J. Yeah.

02:56:34.880 --> 02:56:37.880
Um, do we know how what the cost of

02:56:38.160 --> 02:56:39.816
gambling in the city of Port Phillip

02:56:39.840 --> 02:56:42.616
costs us?

02:56:42.640 --> 02:56:44.856
, no. That would be taken on notice.

02:56:44.880 --> 02:56:46.696
Y

02:56:46.720 --> 02:56:48.536
Oh, you do? I thought not that anyone

02:56:48.560 --> 02:56:50.216
would ever know. It's such a secretive

02:56:50.240 --> 02:56:51.496
thing.

02:56:51.520 --> 02:56:54.375
No.

02:56:54.399 --> 02:56:57.399
Okay.

02:57:04.399 --> 02:57:07.399
um through you may don't 100% quote me I

02:57:08.720 --> 02:57:10.136
will take it on notice and come back to

02:57:10.160 --> 02:57:11.976
you but my understanding this year

02:57:12.000 --> 02:57:14.375
financial year alone across 11 venues

02:57:14.399 --> 02:57:15.896
within the city of Port Philip there's

02:57:15.920 --> 02:57:18.920
been about 5 million $5 million um to

02:57:19.920 --> 02:57:22.136
recollection it was approximately 30

02:57:22.160 --> 02:57:23.896
million total for the last financial

02:57:23.920 --> 02:57:26.375
year comparatively to other

02:57:26.399 --> 02:57:27.896
municipalities

02:57:27.920 --> 02:57:30.920
we rank about 35th in terms of um

02:57:31.520 --> 02:57:34.520
gambling loss.  some of the councils

02:57:35.279 --> 02:57:38.279
and I had a brief look at those reported

02:57:38.479 --> 02:57:40.616
via the state government report gambling

02:57:40.640 --> 02:57:43.016
reporting sites a kind of five to six

02:57:43.040 --> 02:57:45.176
times the amount um that is lost in the

02:57:45.200 --> 02:57:46.375
city of Port Phillip just for

02:57:46.399 --> 02:57:48.056
comparison.

02:57:48.080 --> 02:57:50.696
Okay, any other questions?

02:57:50.720 --> 02:57:51.976
Councelor Min,

02:57:52.000 --> 02:57:55.000
I will speak to this motion. This is a

02:57:55.200 --> 02:57:57.576
motion that came through our colleagues

02:57:57.600 --> 02:58:00.600
in the sector. While we may be 35th in

02:58:01.040 --> 02:58:03.096
terms of local government areas in

02:58:03.120 --> 02:58:05.736
gambling losses, we should be supporting

02:58:05.760 --> 02:58:07.656
our colleagues across the sector where

02:58:07.680 --> 02:58:10.216
those losses are much higher. This is

02:58:10.240 --> 02:58:12.295
about us coming together as local

02:58:12.319 --> 02:58:14.536
government, as a sector, calling on the

02:58:14.560 --> 02:58:15.976
government to honor its commitments

02:58:16.000 --> 02:58:18.216
around the pre-commitment trial. It is

02:58:18.240 --> 02:58:21.240
around us in as a sector ensuring that

02:58:21.279 --> 02:58:23.736
we are seen as a key stakeholder on

02:58:23.760 --> 02:58:25.736
electronic gambling machines that really

02:58:25.760 --> 02:58:28.760
serve no benefit to our wider community

02:58:28.800 --> 02:58:31.800
that just simply cause economic loss,

02:58:31.920 --> 02:58:34.920
social harm to our community. It is in

02:58:35.439 --> 02:58:37.736
our best interest to support our sector

02:58:37.760 --> 02:58:40.760
as when we may need their support in

02:58:40.800 --> 02:58:43.800
with us in other mains.

02:58:43.840 --> 02:58:45.976
We need to work together as a sector to

02:58:46.000 --> 02:58:49.000
ensure that we can reduce the costs to

02:58:50.000 --> 02:58:51.816
our community and this is what this

02:58:51.840 --> 02:58:54.616
does. I commend the motion and I commend

02:58:54.640 --> 02:58:57.640
our wider colleagues across other LGAAS

02:58:58.080 --> 02:59:00.696
where this is a much more pressing issue

02:59:00.720 --> 02:59:03.720
in terms of league tables in their

02:59:03.840 --> 02:59:05.816
advocacy in getting this back onto the

02:59:05.840 --> 02:59:08.455
agenda and  securing commitments that

02:59:08.479 --> 02:59:11.176
have been made previously.

02:59:11.200 --> 02:59:13.016
Great. Council me.

02:59:13.040 --> 02:59:16.040
Thank you, Mayor. The  fact that this

02:59:16.720 --> 02:59:19.016
particular motion is at the end of the

02:59:19.040 --> 02:59:21.255
evening shouldn't diminish the

02:59:21.279 --> 02:59:24.279
importance of of of this  motion. 

02:59:25.680 --> 02:59:28.680
for me personally, having observed and

02:59:29.760 --> 02:59:32.760
dealt with the outcomes of  this form

02:59:33.920 --> 02:59:36.920
of gambling over time, it's devastating.

02:59:38.080 --> 02:59:41.080
 unfettered access to machinery that

02:59:41.520 --> 02:59:44.520
is designed absolutely designed for you

02:59:45.120 --> 02:59:48.120
to lose money.  and it is simply not

02:59:49.680 --> 02:59:51.896
possible to make money for it. We've

02:59:51.920 --> 02:59:53.656
quoted some numbers tonight. Thank you,

02:59:53.680 --> 02:59:56.680
James. Behind those numbers are ruined

02:59:57.600 --> 03:00:00.600
families, ruined lives,  devastation

03:00:01.200 --> 03:00:04.200
for children,  parents gambling their

03:00:05.200 --> 03:00:07.816
futures away. I can't speak strongly

03:00:07.840 --> 03:00:10.776
enough about this. This is will go some

03:00:10.800 --> 03:00:13.736
small way to helping address the issue.

03:00:13.760 --> 03:00:15.176
I'd like it to go a hell of a lot

03:00:15.200 --> 03:00:17.976
further, but I commend this to  my

03:00:18.000 --> 03:00:19.976
fellow councilors.

03:00:20.000 --> 03:00:23.000
Any other council? Council Hel,

03:00:23.520 --> 03:00:26.520
I echo the statements um of councelor

03:00:26.880 --> 03:00:29.880
Mack and councelor Miz. Um I ru the day

03:00:31.120 --> 03:00:34.120
that [ __ ] gambling was legalized um here

03:00:34.800 --> 03:00:37.800
in Victoria. Um the continual harms that

03:00:39.040 --> 03:00:42.040
it has um done for no

03:00:43.840 --> 03:00:46.840
um benefit to our population are um

03:00:46.960 --> 03:00:48.696
tragic.

03:00:48.720 --> 03:00:51.335
And the creeping insidiousness of

03:00:51.359 --> 03:00:54.359
gambling into other areas of our lives

03:00:54.560 --> 03:00:57.560
such as live sports um is  is equally

03:01:01.120 --> 03:01:04.120
distressing. Um I also think we should

03:01:04.960 --> 03:01:07.960
acknowledge here um the work of 

03:01:08.160 --> 03:01:10.375
advocates like Tim Costello and others

03:01:10.399 --> 03:01:13.399
who are um working tirelessly

03:01:13.840 --> 03:01:16.776
um to reduce the harm caused by

03:01:16.800 --> 03:01:19.800
gambling. Um therefore I'm um not happy

03:01:21.200 --> 03:01:24.200
to support this but um it is 

03:01:24.319 --> 03:01:27.319
something that we should do to help our

03:01:27.359 --> 03:01:30.359
population um  in the face of this

03:01:30.880 --> 03:01:33.880
kind of um this addiction  that is 

03:01:34.000 --> 03:01:37.000
being um thrust on our communities

03:01:37.040 --> 03:01:39.176
unfortunately.

03:01:39.200 --> 03:01:41.496
Councelor Jay.

03:01:41.520 --> 03:01:43.576
Um, I've seen firsthand with family

03:01:43.600 --> 03:01:45.496
members just the destruction that that

03:01:45.520 --> 03:01:48.520
that gambling has on on a family, both

03:01:49.040 --> 03:01:52.040
the immediate and extended. Um, I think

03:01:52.479 --> 03:01:55.016
gambling is one of um the biggest

03:01:55.040 --> 03:01:57.656
challenges facing our youth. ,

03:01:57.680 --> 03:02:00.616
disguised with social footy and drinks,

03:02:00.640 --> 03:02:03.176
it seems all all a lot of fun until

03:02:03.200 --> 03:02:06.200
you've got no money left. Um there is

03:02:06.399 --> 03:02:08.936
certainly a lot of young young

03:02:08.960 --> 03:02:11.896
well-earning um tradies even that are so

03:02:11.920 --> 03:02:14.295
addicted um there's just not a scent

03:02:14.319 --> 03:02:17.319
left after payday. It is legal and it is

03:02:17.760 --> 03:02:20.760
terrifying  in this council. We will

03:02:20.880 --> 03:02:22.856
do this is a great great step but we

03:02:22.880 --> 03:02:24.295
will do everything that we can to

03:02:24.319 --> 03:02:27.319
protect our youth from this evil evil

03:02:28.319 --> 03:02:30.776
addiction.

03:02:30.800 --> 03:02:33.800
 just to clarify  James has

03:02:33.920 --> 03:02:36.920
confirmed those numbers that 35th and 30

03:02:37.439 --> 03:02:40.439
million last year and

03:02:41.359 --> 03:02:43.255
okay council is any further council to

03:02:43.279 --> 03:02:44.776
man

03:02:44.800 --> 03:02:46.696
 I support this motion. I wish it

03:02:46.720 --> 03:02:48.856
would go further because you know I'm

03:02:48.880 --> 03:02:50.295
kind of appalled at the number of

03:02:50.319 --> 03:02:52.455
advertising for sports betting and

03:02:52.479 --> 03:02:54.375
stuff. Every time you watch television

03:02:54.399 --> 03:02:56.375
you've got an ad. So and and obviously

03:02:56.399 --> 03:02:58.936
we are on the edge of the biggest casino

03:02:58.960 --> 03:03:01.816
in the country. So,  it's very easy

03:03:01.840 --> 03:03:04.536
for our residents to actually lose

03:03:04.560 --> 03:03:07.560
money. Um so,  and not win much. So,

03:03:08.720 --> 03:03:11.720
um um as you know, I wish this would go

03:03:12.240 --> 03:03:15.240
further, but it's a start to raise the

03:03:15.359 --> 03:03:18.359
topic and and make people conscious of

03:03:18.800 --> 03:03:20.936
of what's what's the advertising that

03:03:20.960 --> 03:03:22.856
says just be careful because you're

03:03:22.880 --> 03:03:24.136
going to lose money or something. So,

03:03:24.160 --> 03:03:26.375
it's it should be added maybe to that.

03:03:26.399 --> 03:03:28.375
But yes, thanks councelor Min for

03:03:28.399 --> 03:03:30.616
putting that up on the agenda.

03:03:30.640 --> 03:03:32.455
Any other council wish to speak to it or

03:03:32.479 --> 03:03:35.479
can we put that to the vote?

03:03:35.680 --> 03:03:38.680
 I can't close. Yep.

03:03:39.120 --> 03:03:41.255
This  you know the city of Port

03:03:41.279 --> 03:03:42.455
Phillip historically was at the

03:03:42.479 --> 03:03:44.136
forefront of  the Alliance for

03:03:44.160 --> 03:03:46.295
Gambling Reform. This is about us 

03:03:46.319 --> 03:03:47.976
sharing the stage with our colleagues

03:03:48.000 --> 03:03:50.776
across local government in helping them

03:03:50.800 --> 03:03:53.496
elevate their voice. And you know we

03:03:53.520 --> 03:03:55.496
have all many of us here have spoken

03:03:55.520 --> 03:03:57.335
around the ills of gambling and ensuring

03:03:57.359 --> 03:03:59.896
that we once again reduce harm in our

03:03:59.920 --> 03:04:01.576
community. Commend the motion. I thank

03:04:01.600 --> 03:04:03.656
my colleagues for  speaking in support

03:04:03.680 --> 03:04:05.576
of it this evening too.

03:04:05.600 --> 03:04:07.255
Let's put that to the vote. All those in

03:04:07.279 --> 03:04:09.415
favour all those against that is carried

03:04:09.439 --> 03:04:11.496
unanimously.

03:04:11.520 --> 03:04:14.216
The final motion for tonight or sorry

03:04:14.240 --> 03:04:17.240
notice of motion is item 14.3 raised by

03:04:17.600 --> 03:04:19.415
councelor Consol in relation to around

03:04:19.439 --> 03:04:21.176
the bay in the day event. Councelor

03:04:21.200 --> 03:04:22.536
Consolola, would you like to move this

03:04:22.560 --> 03:04:23.415
motion?

03:04:23.439 --> 03:04:24.375
Yes, thank you.

03:04:24.399 --> 03:04:25.976
And do I have a second? Councelor

03:04:26.000 --> 03:04:28.536
Holidayiday. So, we'll get that up on

03:04:28.560 --> 03:04:31.560
the screen. , councilors, do we have

03:04:31.840 --> 03:04:33.335
any questions for the officers in regard

03:04:33.359 --> 03:04:36.359
to this notice of motion?

03:04:37.279 --> 03:04:40.279
Council J. Um, last minute question. Do

03:04:40.960 --> 03:04:43.960
we have any idea on how many um out of

03:04:44.960 --> 03:04:47.576
town or or out of Port Phillip people,

03:04:47.600 --> 03:04:49.415
visitors that an event like this will

03:04:49.439 --> 03:04:52.439
bring to our municipality?

03:04:53.840 --> 03:04:55.496
James Gullen.

03:04:55.520 --> 03:04:58.520
Um through you, Mayor.  I I think it's

03:04:59.520 --> 03:05:02.375
in the report, but um my understanding

03:05:02.399 --> 03:05:04.776
there's roughly 7,000

03:05:04.800 --> 03:05:07.800
um applicants or or attendees that

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participate in the event with the

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majority albeit it's quite hard to

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determine exact numbers um not residing

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within the municipality. now a breakdown

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of whether they're intrastate or

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interstate  I don't have at this point

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in time but what we can recognize is um

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the vast majority of those 7,000

03:05:26.240 --> 03:05:28.056
participants  are not residents of

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city of Port Philip but do come to visit

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this m municipality

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I have a question though do they

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actually stop in the city of port Philip

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don't they just ride through and a lot

03:05:39.600 --> 03:05:42.600
of them do not participate in any after

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events given they've just driven ridden

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along I That's we don't have any clear

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idea of how many actually

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okay counts. Thank you James.

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Um through you may um there's a r

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there's a lot of starting there's

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different stages of around the bay in

03:06:00.000 --> 03:06:02.536
the in the day and there's also things

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like the family ride which is around

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Albert Park. So it depends on what we're

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speaking to. If we're speaking to the

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whole journey, you're right. Many um

03:06:11.040 --> 03:06:14.040
tres   sorry, trespass, many ride

03:06:15.520 --> 03:06:17.255
through the municipality, but many many

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do actually um come and stay here. Many

03:06:19.840 --> 03:06:21.255
do start here depending on the event

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that they do. Um and our economic spend

03:06:23.920 --> 03:06:26.056
data actually plays out that we do see a

03:06:26.080 --> 03:06:29.080
jump in spending particularly around our

03:06:29.279 --> 03:06:31.736
Silda for Fitzroy Street and South

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Melbourne precincts. Now whether that is

03:06:34.080 --> 03:06:36.936
directly correlated um it's very hard to

03:06:36.960 --> 03:06:39.656
tell  but we do see that that that

03:06:39.680 --> 03:06:42.680
rise during that event year on year.

03:06:43.040 --> 03:06:45.656
Okay. Any other questions? Council

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consol.

03:06:46.640 --> 03:06:48.295
Thank you. This isn't the first time

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I've brought this to the chambers to try

03:06:50.160 --> 03:06:53.160
to get a better um waiver for this

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event. I think this event has  a big

03:06:56.880 --> 03:06:58.856
significance not just to our

03:06:58.880 --> 03:07:01.576
municipality. It's  one that is

03:07:01.600 --> 03:07:03.255
notable. It's always just after the

03:07:03.279 --> 03:07:06.279
marathon is the round the bay and um

03:07:06.640 --> 03:07:09.415
it's it's a delightful event and I think

03:07:09.439 --> 03:07:11.656
that they've built on it over the years

03:07:11.680 --> 03:07:14.680
to be more inclusive to a variety of

03:07:15.600 --> 03:07:18.600
cyclists.  the family ride is really

03:07:19.279 --> 03:07:21.496
really fun. I think I did it with my

03:07:21.520 --> 03:07:24.520
kids last year where the entire Albert

03:07:24.960 --> 03:07:27.960
Park Lake is closed off to cars and you

03:07:28.319 --> 03:07:29.976
just get to ride around it. It is such a

03:07:30.000 --> 03:07:31.496
different experience than any other

03:07:31.520 --> 03:07:33.736
weekend. I highly recommend that the

03:07:33.760 --> 03:07:35.496
residents in our area should get on

03:07:35.520 --> 03:07:38.520
board and enjoy this opportunity. Um the

03:07:40.160 --> 03:07:43.160
the Bicycle Victoria also puts on an

03:07:43.359 --> 03:07:46.359
ebike expo at um Al Park Lake. There's a

03:07:46.800 --> 03:07:48.696
lot of activation and fun in that event.

03:07:48.720 --> 03:07:50.136
Even if you just want it curious, like

03:07:50.160 --> 03:07:51.816
we went and gave it a try. My kids

03:07:51.840 --> 03:07:54.696
definitely wanted one. It was so fun. I

03:07:54.720 --> 03:07:56.455
can't I couldn't afford at the time nor

03:07:56.479 --> 03:07:58.696
now, but it was a really good experience

03:07:58.720 --> 03:08:00.616
to test it out and I I recommend people

03:08:00.640 --> 03:08:02.776
just walk on over. It's right here. Even

03:08:02.800 --> 03:08:05.255
though the city um the Alark Lake

03:08:05.279 --> 03:08:07.816
Reserve is not the city of Port Phillip,

03:08:07.840 --> 03:08:09.736
it is surrounded on all sides by the

03:08:09.760 --> 03:08:11.736
city of Port Phillip. You can't get to

03:08:11.760 --> 03:08:13.096
it without going through the city of

03:08:13.120 --> 03:08:15.816
Port Phillip. A lot of this is um they

03:08:15.840 --> 03:08:17.816
have the the water station and the road

03:08:17.840 --> 03:08:20.455
closures. We're just one municipality

03:08:20.479 --> 03:08:23.479
that is um a part of this big event, but

03:08:24.640 --> 03:08:27.640
we've got a lot within ours. I think the

03:08:28.080 --> 03:08:31.080
Medal Vision charity that the event is

03:08:31.520 --> 03:08:33.335
sponsoring as well has a lot of merit

03:08:33.359 --> 03:08:36.359
and that this is something that I

03:08:36.560 --> 03:08:38.056
appreciate. We're going to also have a

03:08:38.080 --> 03:08:40.375
third point here that we'll look at this

03:08:40.399 --> 03:08:41.976
more in detail instead of maybe this

03:08:42.000 --> 03:08:43.576
having to come back every year like

03:08:43.600 --> 03:08:45.816
this. Maybe this one because that's such

03:08:45.840 --> 03:08:48.136
shared values of alternative

03:08:48.160 --> 03:08:51.016
transportation options and outdoor

03:08:51.040 --> 03:08:53.976
recreation well-being that maybe it'll

03:08:54.000 --> 03:08:55.976
we won't be seeing this  in this

03:08:56.000 --> 03:08:59.000
capacity again but supported

03:08:59.600 --> 03:09:01.976
um ongoing. Thank you.

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Council Holiday.

03:09:04.720 --> 03:09:06.536
 just briefly, I think that the u

03:09:06.560 --> 03:09:09.560
merit of the of the 50%  waiver fee

03:09:10.399 --> 03:09:13.399
here comes from um as  councelor

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Consol has indicated the benefits that

03:09:16.960 --> 03:09:19.960
the this ride um generates for our

03:09:20.080 --> 03:09:22.856
community and as we've also discussed

03:09:22.880 --> 03:09:25.880
the commercial benefits  that flow on

03:09:26.080 --> 03:09:29.080
to our local um businesses. But I think

03:09:30.160 --> 03:09:33.160
 most importantly here this is run by

03:09:33.200 --> 03:09:35.896
a not for not not for-p profofit. Um and

03:09:35.920 --> 03:09:38.696
while it is in some ways a commercial um

03:09:38.720 --> 03:09:41.720
enterprise it is it supports charities

03:09:42.720 --> 03:09:45.720
it is not a for-profit event um like we

03:09:46.399 --> 03:09:49.399
had um in recent history here. Um it is

03:09:49.760 --> 03:09:52.536
a non-for-profit event that benefits our

03:09:52.560 --> 03:09:54.696
local community and um the wider

03:09:54.720 --> 03:09:56.856
population. So I'm happy to support a

03:09:56.880 --> 03:09:59.255
50% waiver on this and I also appreciate

03:09:59.279 --> 03:10:01.816
the inclusion here of a review so that

03:10:01.840 --> 03:10:04.136
we can properly capture these kinds of

03:10:04.160 --> 03:10:06.616
considerations in our policy so that we

03:10:06.640 --> 03:10:08.776
don't have to come back each year um and

03:10:08.800 --> 03:10:10.375
request a higher waiver that these

03:10:10.399 --> 03:10:12.856
things can be considered um as normal

03:10:12.880 --> 03:10:14.936
practice.  so I will be supporting

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this.

03:10:16.720 --> 03:10:18.776
Okay. Anyone else need to speak to the

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motion? Councelor Consol, did you want

03:10:21.439 --> 03:10:24.439
to close? Just wishing them good weather

03:10:24.479 --> 03:10:26.136
because it'll be a better event for

03:10:26.160 --> 03:10:27.496
that.

03:10:27.520 --> 03:10:29.096
Oh, let's put that to the vote. All

03:10:29.120 --> 03:10:30.776
those in favour that is carried

03:10:30.800 --> 03:10:33.096
unanimously.

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Okay, councilors. Um I am going to ask

03:10:36.160 --> 03:10:38.616
is do you it is the opportunity if as a

03:10:38.640 --> 03:10:40.375
councelor delegate to report back but we

03:10:40.399 --> 03:10:42.136
are into our extension of half an hour

03:10:42.160 --> 03:10:44.455
and we still have a confidential item to

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take on. So are there any reports anyone

03:10:46.880 --> 03:10:49.335
would like to give?

03:10:49.359 --> 03:10:51.335
No. Great. Any urgent business I'm not

03:10:51.359 --> 03:10:53.656
aware of? I have an urgent item of

03:10:53.680 --> 03:10:55.255
business.

03:10:55.279 --> 03:10:57.096
Are you serious?

03:10:57.120 --> 03:10:59.576
Yes. Before before Lachlan goes, he

03:10:59.600 --> 03:11:02.600
should fix the clock.

03:11:02.960 --> 03:11:05.176
Get that ladder out. Lan,

03:11:05.200 --> 03:11:06.936
we've been here since 9:00 this morning

03:11:06.960 --> 03:11:08.455
and the clock hasn't moved. Maybe it was

03:11:08.479 --> 03:11:10.216
good for us.

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We haven't moved.

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Okay, we've lo Good news is we've logged

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the service. Lachlan, you're off off the

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hook. Okay, councilors, we have one

03:11:17.279 --> 03:11:19.096
confidential report listed on the agenda

03:11:19.120 --> 03:11:21.976
being the 17.1 the contract award. South

03:11:22.000 --> 03:11:23.496
Melbourne market project connect the

03:11:23.520 --> 03:11:26.216
principal D design consultant who wants

03:11:26.240 --> 03:11:27.816
to move that the meeting be closed to

03:11:27.840 --> 03:11:29.255
members of the public to consider the

03:11:29.279 --> 03:11:31.335
confidential council mess council demand

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to second let's put that vote all those

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in favour that is carried unanimously so

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that concludes the public part of the

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meeting thank you to  Theresa and

03:11:42.160 --> 03:11:44.216
Frank for being with us here again we do

03:11:44.240 --> 03:11:46.856
appreciate your presence and obviously

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we'll cut off the live streaming

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