WEBVTT 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:03.320 Good evening everyone. It is now 6:32pm 00:00:03.360 --> 00:00:06.360 So please find your seats 00:00:07.120 --> 00:00:10.120 and welcome to tonight's meeting of Port 00:00:11.120 --> 00:00:14.120 Phillip City Council. The council 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:15.495 respectfully acknowledges the 00:00:15.519 --> 00:00:17.496 traditional owners and custodians of the 00:00:17.520 --> 00:00:20.056 Kulin Nation. We acknowledge that legacy 00:00:20.080 --> 00:00:22.376 and spiritual connection to the land and 00:00:22.400 --> 00:00:24.376 waterways across the City of Port 00:00:24.400 --> 00:00:26.696 Phillip and pay our heartfelt respects 00:00:26.720 --> 00:00:29.415 to the Elders, past, present, and 00:00:29.439 --> 00:00:31.095 emerging. 00:00:31.119 --> 00:00:32.936 It's worth being mindful of the history 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:35.960 of our First Nations communities as 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:37.736 we look at the history that we create 00:00:37.760 --> 00:00:40.375 here in the City of Port Phillip. This 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:42.776 meeting is being conducted in a hybrid 00:00:42.800 --> 00:00:45.576 style and is streamed via council's 00:00:45.600 --> 00:00:48.600 webcast page and Facebook live. Streams 00:00:49.200 --> 00:00:50.855 and recordings of council meetings are 00:00:50.879 --> 00:00:53.175 copyrighted and cannot be altered, 00:00:53.199 --> 00:00:55.256 reproduced or republished without the 00:00:55.280 --> 00:00:57.656 permission of council. 00:00:57.680 --> 00:01:00.456 I do remind all attendees that any 00:01:00.480 --> 00:01:03.480 member of the public addressing council 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:05.976 must extend due courtesy and respect to 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:08.455 council and the processes under which it 00:01:08.479 --> 00:01:10.455 operates and must take direction from 00:01:10.479 --> 00:01:13.336 the chair. That's me whenever called on 00:01:13.360 --> 00:01:16.216 to do so. Speakers must remain 00:01:16.240 --> 00:01:18.296 respectful and statements or questions 00:01:18.320 --> 00:01:20.696 must not be defamatory, offensive or 00:01:20.720 --> 00:01:22.216 objectionable, 00:01:22.240 --> 00:01:24.216 aimed at embarrassing a counselor or a 00:01:24.240 --> 00:01:26.616 member of council staff or relate to a 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:28.775 matter outside. 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:31.336 Yeah, 00:01:31.360 --> 00:01:34.360 outside the powers of the council. 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:36.296 I'm very sorry. 00:01:36.320 --> 00:01:37.896 I've got my mic. 00:01:37.920 --> 00:01:40.920 No one wants to hear my voice on echo. 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:45.159 I'm going to do 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:47.095 If we experience any technical 00:01:47.119 --> 00:01:48.856 difficulties, and that was a great segue 00:01:48.880 --> 00:01:51.336 into that statement, if we experience 00:01:51.360 --> 00:01:53.896 any technical 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:55.496 difficulties this evening, we will 00:01:55.520 --> 00:01:57.095 adjourn the meeting for a short time to 00:01:57.119 --> 00:01:58.695 resolve the issue. And that issue has 00:01:58.719 --> 00:02:01.095 been resolved. In the unlikely event of 00:02:01.119 --> 00:02:03.256 emergency, please follow the direction 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:05.176 of the emergency wardens and the 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:07.656 governance staff seated over to my right 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:10.536 to your left. 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:12.215 We're now formally beginning tonight's 00:02:12.239 --> 00:02:14.536 meeting. So councilors, do we have any 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:17.560 apologies for this evening? 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:19.496 We're just working through Beti Jay 00:02:19.520 --> 00:02:20.456 online. 00:02:20.480 --> 00:02:23.480 Councelor Jay is attempting to join us 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:27.080 online. Do we have any other apologies 00:02:27.599 --> 00:02:29.976 looking around the room? 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:33.000 I take it we don't. 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:35.896 and minutes of previous meetings. 00:02:35.920 --> 00:02:38.215 Councilors, the minutes of the council 00:02:38.239 --> 00:02:40.215 meeting held on the 5th of November, 00:02:40.239 --> 00:02:42.776 2025 and the special meeting of council 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:45.736 held on the 12th of November 2025 have 00:02:45.760 --> 00:02:48.215 been circulated. Do we have any 00:02:48.239 --> 00:02:51.239 questions regarding these minutes? 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:55.879 If not, could I have a motion to confirm 00:02:55.920 --> 00:02:58.920 these minutes? I saw councilor Mears moved. 00:02:59.920 --> 00:03:02.920 Councelor Mears seconded councelor Thomann. 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:05.176 We're going to put that motion to a 00:03:05.200 --> 00:03:08.200 vote. All those in favor 00:03:10.159 --> 00:03:12.456 that looked unanimous to me. Welcome 00:03:12.480 --> 00:03:15.480 councelor Jay. And actually now that 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:17.096 you've joined all those in favor in 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:19.416 adopting those minutes. 00:03:19.440 --> 00:03:21.656 Everyone's hand is up. That has been 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:24.680 carried unanimously. 00:03:27.519 --> 00:03:30.295 Item three are declarations of conflicts 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:32.775 of interest. Does anyone have a conflict 00:03:32.799 --> 00:03:35.256 of interest in a matter being discussed 00:03:35.280 --> 00:03:38.280 at tonight's meeting? Councelor Cunsolo. 00:03:38.640 --> 00:03:41.096 Thank you. I've been advised that part 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:44.120 of um item 12.2 2, which is sorry I'm 00:03:45.200 --> 00:03:48.200 wrong one. 13.1 the first quarter 00:03:49.040 --> 00:03:52.040 2025 to 2026 financial review 00:03:52.640 --> 00:03:55.640 includes a part that may impact a 00:03:56.959 --> 00:03:58.696 club that my husband's the treasurer of 00:03:58.720 --> 00:04:00.295 So I will leave the chamber during that 00:04:00.319 --> 00:04:01.976 item because it's just easier to do it 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:04.295 for the whole item. Thanks. 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:06.616 Makes sense. Thank you councelor Cunsolo. 00:04:06.640 --> 00:04:08.215 Are there any other interests that we 00:04:08.239 --> 00:04:10.775 wish to declare before us at tonight's 00:04:10.799 --> 00:04:13.799 agenda? 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:16.296 in which case we do have a condolence 00:04:16.320 --> 00:04:19.096 motion before us and that's been added 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:21.495 to tonight's agenda in relation to Peter 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:24.296 Goad who sadly passed away at the age of 00:04:24.320 --> 00:04:27.256 101. I would now like to refer to 00:04:27.280 --> 00:04:30.280 councelor Thomann to share a few words. 00:04:31.919 --> 00:04:34.919 Yes, we lost we just lost a week ago a 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:38.120 great Port Philip resident Peter Goad was 00:04:38.240 --> 00:04:41.240 a mythologist, editor, yachtsman, skier 00:04:42.240 --> 00:04:45.240 activist and a tireless champion of save 00:04:45.280 --> 00:04:47.496 alact the movement that has long opposed 00:04:47.520 --> 00:04:49.496 the steady encroachment of the 00:04:49.520 --> 00:04:51.175 Australian Grand Prix Corporation onto 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:53.416 public parkland for the annual Formula 1 00:04:53.440 --> 00:04:55.816 Grand Prix. A man of many talents, he 00:04:55.840 --> 00:04:58.296 could fix anything. More importantly, he 00:04:58.320 --> 00:05:00.696 was a man of unwavering principles, 00:05:00.720 --> 00:05:03.175 steadfast, determined, and courageous to 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:05.416 the very end. Peter passed away 00:05:05.440 --> 00:05:08.056 peacefully on the 5th of November, 2025 00:05:08.080 --> 00:05:10.536 after an extraordinary, full, and 00:05:10.560 --> 00:05:13.560 productive 101 years. As his friend 00:05:14.320 --> 00:05:17.320 screenwriter Kevin Summers recalled in 00:05:17.360 --> 00:05:20.360 the age, he was a plain speaking upright 00:05:20.960 --> 00:05:23.015 middle-class man whose sense of 00:05:23.039 --> 00:05:25.656 integrity was shaken by the imposition 00:05:25.680 --> 00:05:28.216 of the Grand Prix at Albert Park. While 00:05:28.240 --> 00:05:30.696 others moved on to despair, he 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:32.936 maintained his eye and his energy. He 00:05:32.960 --> 00:05:35.336 never gave up. Despite the vitriol 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:37.256 heaped upon him, he maintained his 00:05:37.280 --> 00:05:40.216 gentlemanly spirit and never resorted to 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:43.240 cheap personal attacks. One of a kind. 00:05:43.360 --> 00:05:45.496 Peter was married to Rosemary for 70 00:05:45.520 --> 00:05:47.976 years. Council extends its sincere 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:49.576 condolences to his wife, children, 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:52.536 grandchildren, and all who loved him. 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:55.560 Rest in peace. You will be missed. 00:05:56.080 --> 00:05:59.080 Thank you, Councelor Thomann, for sharing 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:01.976 that condolence motion. I seek someone 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:03.976 to move the motion that council 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:06.216 expresses its deep regret on the passing 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:08.696 of Peter Goad and offers its sincere 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:11.336 condolences to their family and places 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:13.256 on record its appreciation for their 00:06:13.280 --> 00:06:15.735 services to the City of Port Phillip. 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:17.576 Councelor Thomann has moved that motion. 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:19.015 Do we have a secondary councelor 00:06:19.039 --> 00:06:22.039 Halliday? 00:06:23.039 --> 00:06:25.336 I forgot one item. He actually was the 00:06:25.360 --> 00:06:28.360 last senior citizen. The last time we 00:06:28.400 --> 00:06:29.976 had a senior citizen in the City of Port 00:06:30.000 --> 00:06:31.895 Phillip a couple of years ago. I forgot 00:06:31.919 --> 00:06:34.919 that element in my address. Thank you to 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:37.175 speaking to that motion. Councelor 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:40.199 Thomann. Does the second wish to speak? 00:06:40.960 --> 00:06:43.416 In which case we will now put the motion 00:06:43.440 --> 00:06:46.440 to a vote. All those in favor 00:06:48.160 --> 00:06:51.160 that motion is carried unanimously. 00:06:53.520 --> 00:06:56.520 What we will do now is jump into public 00:06:57.919 --> 00:06:59.976 question time. 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:03.000 We have three questions with us this 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:06.759 evening. 00:07:06.800 --> 00:07:09.800 before we do, I just want to remind 00:07:10.400 --> 00:07:12.136 people that do submit questions that 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:14.056 under council's governance rules, public 00:07:14.080 --> 00:07:16.056 questions can only be asked about items 00:07:16.080 --> 00:07:18.295 not on the agenda. Therefore, public 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:20.536 questions will be referred to an officer 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:22.376 for response. If you're speaking to an 00:07:22.400 --> 00:07:24.615 agenda item tonight, a counselor may 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:26.936 wish to take up your question on your 00:07:26.960 --> 00:07:28.615 behalf when the item is being considered 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:30.536 before us. 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:32.776 A reminder that members of the public 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:35.656 must not disclose another individual's 00:07:35.680 --> 00:07:37.575 personal or confidential information 00:07:37.599 --> 00:07:40.216 such as names, address, or any other 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:42.136 piece of information that is not 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:44.136 publicly available and is considered 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:47.160 private. Should anyone participating at 00:07:47.440 --> 00:07:48.936 tonight's meeting not take the direction 00:07:48.960 --> 00:07:50.455 of the chair or comply with those 00:07:50.479 --> 00:07:53.096 conditions, council may remove that 00:07:53.120 --> 00:07:55.575 person from the meeting. I also ask 00:07:55.599 --> 00:07:57.256 attendees to please not approach 00:07:57.280 --> 00:07:59.336 counselors at the desks during the 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:01.256 meeting. If you do have documentation 00:08:01.280 --> 00:08:03.656 you'd like us to view and you'd like 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:05.976 to distribute to councilors, please 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:08.776 provide that to our governance staff and 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:11.416 they will distribute it to us for our 00:08:11.440 --> 00:08:14.440 distribution and consideration. 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:17.560 We shall start with our speaker in the 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:19.976 chamber. So, Frankuzo, the floor is 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:23.000 yours. 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:29.096 Reminder that we have two minutes per 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:32.120 speaker in speaking time. 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:35.176 Frank Artus Albert Park. Question one. 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:37.656 A. How were the 13 participants who 00:08:37.680 --> 00:08:39.736 completed the first aid CPR and white 00:08:39.760 --> 00:08:42.760 card training through the 16 to 25 year 00:08:42.880 --> 00:08:45.880 old age group thrive program identified 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.616 and recruited? Part B. After completing 00:08:48.640 --> 00:08:50.136 the training, were participants offered 00:08:50.160 --> 00:08:52.776 community engagement or employment paid 00:08:52.800 --> 00:08:55.336 or or unpaid? 00:08:55.360 --> 00:08:57.896 C. What is the council's financial 00:08:57.920 --> 00:09:00.375 information on costs, grants, and social 00:09:00.399 --> 00:09:02.856 payback? And why is this program a 00:09:02.880 --> 00:09:05.880 council activity? D. Identifying the 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:08.696 data gaps in the waste and recycling 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:10.536 strategy could appropriately assist 00:09:10.560 --> 00:09:13.560 Thrive program participants be engaged 00:09:13.600 --> 00:09:15.416 in data collection work potentially with 00:09:15.440 --> 00:09:17.896 an appropriate stipen. 00:09:17.920 --> 00:09:20.856 Question two, a what is the council's 00:09:20.880 --> 00:09:23.096 view on the energy from waste model? 00:09:23.120 --> 00:09:25.255 nine southeastern 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:27.736 councils, Bayside, Cardinia, 00:09:27.760 --> 00:09:30.456 Casey, Frankston, Kingston, Knox, White 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:33.480 Horse, Yeric Rangers 00:09:33.760 --> 00:09:36.216 partnering with Viola and Mville Opal 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:37.815 Paper Mill. The project currently in 00:09:37.839 --> 00:09:40.136 construction operational by 2029 aims to 00:09:40.160 --> 00:09:42.136 generate steam and electriCity from 00:09:42.160 --> 00:09:45.096 around 325,000 tons of non-recyclable 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:47.416 waste each year. Contrast this with 00:09:47.440 --> 00:09:49.656 Cleanway's Ravens Hall landfill, which 00:09:49.680 --> 00:09:51.896 currently services 21 of Melbourne's 26 00:09:51.920 --> 00:09:54.296 councils, and waste volumes increasing 00:09:54.320 --> 00:09:57.320 5% annually, with EPA submissions 00:09:57.440 --> 00:09:59.176 opposing tripling the land size 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:01.815 expansion and health concerns of the 00:10:01.839 --> 00:10:04.136 City of Milton residents. 00:10:04.160 --> 00:10:06.856 Adjunct to this, how might 00:10:06.880 --> 00:10:08.375 environmentally sustainable and 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:10.216 resilient City port Philip reference 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:12.375 group contribute through practical and 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:14.536 on the ground work such as data 00:10:14.560 --> 00:10:15.656 collection or similar activities 00:10:15.680 --> 00:10:17.656 regarding the don't waste it waste and 00:10:17.680 --> 00:10:20.616 recycling strategy 202528. 00:10:20.640 --> 00:10:23.176 Question three, clever for for 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:25.495 Phillip program currently has 11 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:27.815 projects in progress. Would you advise 00:10:27.839 --> 00:10:30.696 by name what they are? 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:33.096 Oh, please. 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:35.495 Thank you for your question. I'll now 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:38.519 refer to our officers for a response 00:10:44.640 --> 00:10:46.856 to K 00:10:46.880 --> 00:10:49.176 response. Thank you 00:10:49.200 --> 00:10:51.815 through you, Mayor. Sorry, I was 00:10:51.839 --> 00:10:54.055 expecting something a little bit 00:10:54.079 --> 00:10:56.536 different, but that's fine. Sorry, 00:10:56.560 --> 00:10:58.696 just bear with me. 00:10:58.720 --> 00:10:59.976 Different question. 00:11:00.000 --> 00:11:02.055 No, no, not in terms of the question. 00:11:02.079 --> 00:11:05.079 That's fine. Um, sorry. 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:09.320 , through through you, mayor. , the 00:11:09.519 --> 00:11:11.896 13 participants were identified through 00:11:11.920 --> 00:11:14.055 council's youth service networks, 00:11:14.079 --> 00:11:16.536 including local schools and youth 00:11:16.560 --> 00:11:19.495 organizations. , career coordinators 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:21.976 and youth workers referred young people 00:11:22.000 --> 00:11:24.456 most in need who then submitted an 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:27.480 online expression of interest. 00:11:27.600 --> 00:11:29.736 eligibility was limited to those living 00:11:29.760 --> 00:11:32.760 or studying in Port Phillip. after 00:11:33.519 --> 00:11:35.255 completing the training, participants 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:37.495 were not offered direct employment. 00:11:37.519 --> 00:11:39.896 However, next year council is looking to 00:11:39.920 --> 00:11:42.696 explore how it can facilitate pathways 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:44.616 to connect trained young people with 00:11:44.640 --> 00:11:47.495 local employers. For example, places 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:49.416 like the South Melbourne market vendors 00:11:49.440 --> 00:11:52.440 who may be seeking seeking workers. 00:11:52.959 --> 00:11:55.416 this particular program is funded by 00:11:55.440 --> 00:11:57.896 the Victorian government's engage youth 00:11:57.920 --> 00:12:00.216 grant which covered the training and the 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:03.240 coordination costs. the grant is for 00:12:03.680 --> 00:12:06.296 an amount of $150,000 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:09.320 over a three-year period from January 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:12.360 2025 to De December 2027. 00:12:13.279 --> 00:12:15.736 the initiative delivers social 00:12:15.760 --> 00:12:17.896 payback by reducing barriers to 00:12:17.920 --> 00:12:19.656 employment, fostering financial 00:12:19.680 --> 00:12:21.336 independence, and strengthening the 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:23.976 local workforce. And the activity aligns 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:25.815 with council's commitment to social 00:12:25.839 --> 00:12:28.839 inclusion and community well-being. 00:12:30.800 --> 00:12:33.416 And to Tanya McKenzie for the second 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:36.296 part of that question. 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:38.536 through you may thanks Frank for the 00:12:38.560 --> 00:12:41.016 question. Um the clever port Philip 00:12:41.040 --> 00:12:43.576 program delivers work across three core 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:46.296 streams. Regular systems upgrades. This 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:48.375 delivers mandatory planned upgrades to 00:12:48.399 --> 00:12:50.856 our core information and communication 00:12:50.880 --> 00:12:53.336 technology so they remain secure, 00:12:53.360 --> 00:12:55.896 supported and fit for purpose. These 00:12:55.920 --> 00:12:58.920 include, excuse me, these include 00:12:59.360 --> 00:13:02.216 upgrading core enterprise platforms, 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:04.615 refreshing workplace technology, 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:06.696 updating digital platforms such as our 00:13:06.720 --> 00:13:08.856 public websites and other core workplace 00:13:08.880 --> 00:13:10.456 technology. 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:12.456 The second core stream is system 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:15.016 optimization. This delivers targeted 00:13:15.040 --> 00:13:16.856 enhancements that improve how our 00:13:16.880 --> 00:13:19.495 systems support day-to-day operations, 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:21.815 decision making, and governance. These 00:13:21.839 --> 00:13:23.896 include optimizing the way systems 00:13:23.920 --> 00:13:26.296 automate workflows. across business 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:28.856 areas, adapting systems to better 00:13:28.880 --> 00:13:30.696 support risk and corporate planning, 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:32.856 enhancing systems for efficient 00:13:32.880 --> 00:13:34.375 planning, tracking and reporting on 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:36.375 project delivery and strengthening 00:13:36.399 --> 00:13:38.856 information and records management. The 00:13:38.880 --> 00:13:40.776 third stream is focused on innovation 00:13:40.800 --> 00:13:43.800 and AI enablement. This leads the safe 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:45.656 practice and adoption of new 00:13:45.680 --> 00:13:47.896 technologies that lift customer 00:13:47.920 --> 00:13:50.296 experience and staff productivity. 00:13:50.320 --> 00:13:52.456 rolling out things like Microsoft 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:55.255 co-pilot related AI capabilities across 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:58.136 the organization in a governed way 00:13:58.160 --> 00:14:00.856 running AI and digital innovation pilots 00:14:00.880 --> 00:14:03.016 that streamline processes and test new 00:14:03.040 --> 00:14:05.416 ways of working building reusable 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:07.336 patterns guidance and capability to 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:10.360 embed innovation into business as usual. 00:14:12.240 --> 00:14:14.456 And just a note that the further 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:16.615 parts of that question relate to items 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:18.456 on the agenda and therefore a counselor 00:14:18.480 --> 00:14:21.016 may choose to take those questions up on 00:14:21.040 --> 00:14:22.375 your behalf. 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:24.216 Thank you as always for your 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.776 questions this evening. 00:14:26.800 --> 00:14:29.736 We have two virtual speakers here with 00:14:29.760 --> 00:14:32.296 us tonight. the first speaking to 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:35.320 item 6.1 the petition in relation to 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:38.360 resident parking permit in Garden City. 00:14:38.560 --> 00:14:41.560 Natalie Lewis, are you there? 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:49.096 Hello. Yes, 00:14:49.120 --> 00:14:51.656 thank you. Please please start by 00:14:51.680 --> 00:14:53.576 stating your name and suburb and then 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:56.600 onto your statement in relation to 00:14:56.959 --> 00:14:59.096 the item before us. 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:01.416 Sure. Natalie Lewis and I'm in Port 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:03.096 Melbourne. 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:06.055 Um, so my question to council, it 00:15:06.079 --> 00:15:07.736 relates to the petition that I've put 00:15:07.760 --> 00:15:10.375 forward in relation to resident 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:13.399 parking permit needs in Garden City. I 00:15:13.839 --> 00:15:16.136 wanted to ask the council if they were 00:15:16.160 --> 00:15:18.615 aware of kind of how how challenging 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:20.456 it's become for residents to actually 00:15:20.480 --> 00:15:23.016 park in front of their houses with the 00:15:23.040 --> 00:15:24.615 um amount of construction work 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:26.536 happening. That's Barrack Beacon Estate. 00:15:26.560 --> 00:15:29.416 That's the new school. Um, and there are 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:31.016 construction workers parking up all 00:15:31.040 --> 00:15:33.096 sides of the streets, , and and 00:15:33.120 --> 00:15:35.976 hovering from parks for from 5:45 a.m. 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:37.736 , which makes it very busy and very 00:15:37.760 --> 00:15:40.696 chaotic. Um, and so with this in mind 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:42.856 and knowing that Barrack Beacon Estate, 00:15:42.880 --> 00:15:44.776 um, is going to bring in hundreds of new 00:15:44.800 --> 00:15:47.096 residents and without anywhere near 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:49.336 significant enough parking as well as 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:51.416 parents for school drop offs and so on. 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:53.336 What the plans are for parking and 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:56.360 parking constraints around Garden City. 00:15:56.639 --> 00:15:58.136 Thank you. 00:15:58.160 --> 00:16:00.856 Thank you very much, Natalie. 00:16:00.880 --> 00:16:03.880 And our next submitter is in relation to 00:16:04.560 --> 00:16:07.255 item 12.1, the council committee 00:16:07.279 --> 00:16:09.096 framework and committee model. Over to 00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:11.976 James. 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:14.055 Thank you very much. my name is James 00:16:14.079 --> 00:16:17.079 and I'm a community member. I'm also the 00:16:17.680 --> 00:16:20.216 um chair of the former multicultural 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:22.055 advisory committee at the council and 00:16:22.079 --> 00:16:24.856 also a member I was also a member of 00:16:24.880 --> 00:16:27.880 the LGBTIQ advisory committee. Um I 00:16:28.560 --> 00:16:30.615 would like to request that the 00:16:30.639 --> 00:16:33.639 council is um seriously reconsider the u 00:16:34.959 --> 00:16:37.959 move or the proposal to transition from 00:16:38.560 --> 00:16:41.336 the existing community cohort-based 00:16:41.360 --> 00:16:44.055 model to the thematic model. Reason 00:16:44.079 --> 00:16:47.079 being that I've noticed that the 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:50.136 um current community cohort-based model 00:16:50.160 --> 00:16:52.935 has been instrumental in offering 00:16:52.959 --> 00:16:55.016 individuals from marginalized groups, 00:16:55.040 --> 00:16:57.336 from intersectional groups a seat at the 00:16:57.360 --> 00:16:59.416 table. It allows their voices to be 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:01.656 heard, their needs and their 00:17:01.680 --> 00:17:03.656 perspectives to be considered when it 00:17:03.680 --> 00:17:06.680 comes to um refining or um designing the 00:17:08.959 --> 00:17:11.959 council's plans and policies. So I have 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:15.096 questions really about how the new 00:17:15.120 --> 00:17:18.120 thematic model will allow individuals or 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:19.736 the voices and the needs and the 00:17:19.760 --> 00:17:22.760 challenges from intersectional and and 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:24.775 traditionally socially disadvantaged 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:27.799 groups to be heard. Um I just want to 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:30.216 close by saying that this is in this 00:17:30.240 --> 00:17:31.976 global climate of alienation, division 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:34.936 and polarization, diversity of opinions 00:17:34.960 --> 00:17:37.960 is important and I really hope that 00:17:38.080 --> 00:17:40.216 when forming the new model for the 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:43.240 advisory committees that the needs and 00:17:43.600 --> 00:17:46.600 the voices of under reppresented um 00:17:46.799 --> 00:17:49.256 voices and groups and communities in 00:17:49.280 --> 00:17:51.336 traditional social structures will 00:17:51.360 --> 00:17:54.360 continue to be featured in the 00:17:54.400 --> 00:17:57.400 council's community engagement. Thank 00:17:57.600 --> 00:17:58.296 you so much. 00:17:58.320 --> 00:17:59.496 Thank you, James. And if you could 00:17:59.520 --> 00:18:02.056 please just share your suburb in your 00:18:02.080 --> 00:18:04.456 close of that question. 00:18:04.480 --> 00:18:06.535 Sure. I'm in South Melbourne. 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:09.559 South Melbourne. Thank you, James. 00:18:10.559 --> 00:18:13.015 We have no further submitters in 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:15.176 relation to items on the agenda this 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:18.200 evening. Before we move on to councelor 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:20.216 question time, we are actually going to 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:22.376 do something really special this 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:25.400 evening in recognizing the City of Port 00:18:26.080 --> 00:18:29.080 Phillip in being the host of the 2026 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:33.160 Victorian interfaith network conference. 00:18:33.200 --> 00:18:36.200 I had the pleasure of being invited to 00:18:36.320 --> 00:18:38.136 the Broad Meadows Town Hall in the City 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:41.160 of Hume where the message stick here on 00:18:42.080 --> 00:18:45.080 the desk here was received by myself in 00:18:45.600 --> 00:18:47.576 my capaCity of mayor on behalf of the 00:18:47.600 --> 00:18:50.600 City of Port Phillip in recognition of 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:53.640 us being the hosts of this invaluable 00:18:53.919 --> 00:18:56.919 conference in next year. 00:18:57.360 --> 00:18:59.496 The Interfaith Network Conference 00:18:59.520 --> 00:19:01.336 actually has a proud history here in the 00:19:01.360 --> 00:19:04.056 City of Port Phillip. So I would like to 00:19:04.080 --> 00:19:06.775 enable or empower two counselors to 00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:08.616 share their thoughts. The first being 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:10.775 councelor Thomann who was part of the 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:12.535 council and in fact I believe part of 00:19:12.559 --> 00:19:14.856 the network at the time in 00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:17.336 originating the conference. So councelor 00:19:17.360 --> 00:19:18.936 Thomann if you would like to share a few 00:19:18.960 --> 00:19:20.936 words here. 00:19:20.960 --> 00:19:23.960 Yes, I would like to share a few words 00:19:24.160 --> 00:19:27.160 and share your optimism, optimism and 00:19:27.760 --> 00:19:30.456 passion about getting this event back to 00:19:30.480 --> 00:19:32.535 the City of Port Flip that we had as a 00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:35.496 inaugural City back in 2011. So the 00:19:35.520 --> 00:19:37.336 Victorian interface networks festival 00:19:37.360 --> 00:19:39.816 which is delivered annually by the faith 00:19:39.840 --> 00:19:41.816 communities council of Victoria 00:19:41.840 --> 00:19:44.616 celebrates dialogue, diversity and unity 00:19:44.640 --> 00:19:46.296 among faith communities across the 00:19:46.320 --> 00:19:49.320 state. Back in 2011, as I was a 00:19:49.360 --> 00:19:51.176 counselor and a member of the multi the 00:19:51.200 --> 00:19:53.336 Portfield multifface network, the City 00:19:53.360 --> 00:19:55.496 of Port Philip hosted downstairs in the 00:19:55.520 --> 00:19:58.456 auditorium this event in 2011 for the 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:01.176 first time and we are very proud to 00:20:01.200 --> 00:20:04.200 welcome it back in 26. I have to say 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:06.936 that one of my highlights at council 00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:09.960 being involved in the multif the 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:13.720 multifface network was to be a key 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:17.640 driver of having the first IFA dinner in 00:20:17.679 --> 00:20:20.056 the City of Port Phillip which I have to 00:20:20.080 --> 00:20:22.936 say was sort of against council officers 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:25.960 advice and we did it in secret 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:29.416 and I got the blame the week after but 00:20:29.440 --> 00:20:32.056 it was a great event and what was 00:20:32.080 --> 00:20:34.775 something quite small back at the time 00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:36.775 eventually a couple of days later was 00:20:36.799 --> 00:20:39.416 celebrated downstairs in the auditorium 00:20:39.440 --> 00:20:42.056 of you know of the town hall. So it 00:20:42.080 --> 00:20:43.655 was a small seed that grew quite 00:20:43.679 --> 00:20:46.296 quickly. So the Port Phillip 00:20:46.320 --> 00:20:49.256 multiffaith network was established in 00:20:49.280 --> 00:20:51.976 2002 in the spirit of peace and 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:54.216 solidarity and know it represents over 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:56.936 50 faith groups committing committed to 00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:59.096 inclusivity, spiritual well-being and 00:20:59.120 --> 00:21:01.496 social justice. They're doing a really 00:21:01.520 --> 00:21:03.496 wonderful job bringing our diverse 00:21:03.520 --> 00:21:05.736 communities together 00:21:05.760 --> 00:21:08.056 and I'm glad that it's coming back to 00:21:08.080 --> 00:21:09.015 our City. 00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:11.096 So we councelor Timman and thank you for 00:21:11.120 --> 00:21:13.736 that touching history of of the 00:21:13.760 --> 00:21:15.976 event. Councelor Buckingham would also 00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:17.895 like to share some words as a real 00:21:17.919 --> 00:21:19.736 champion for this conference coming back 00:21:19.760 --> 00:21:22.376 to the City of Port Phillip. 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:24.696 thank you Mayor Min for the 00:21:24.720 --> 00:21:26.616 opportunity to say a few words. This is 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:29.640 a very exciting moment for the City 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:33.015 of Port Phillip. And I'd like to also 00:21:33.039 --> 00:21:35.096 acknowledge that the mayor traveled 00:21:35.120 --> 00:21:38.120 out to Hume to accept the ceremonial 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:40.775 stick on the weekend on behalf of 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:43.096 City of Port Phillip. I'd like to 00:21:43.120 --> 00:21:44.856 acknowledge we've got some members of 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:47.880 our interfaith group here with us today 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:50.376 in the chamber. I'd like to acknowledge 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:53.096 your tireless work on the interfaith 00:21:53.120 --> 00:21:56.120 network. Um, you volunteer your time and 00:21:56.320 --> 00:21:59.320 your effort to promote conversation, 00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:04.440 safe spaces, and collaboration across 00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:06.936 the diversity of the City of Port 00:22:06.960 --> 00:22:09.960 Phillip. And when I was a new counselor 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:13.720 and over the past 12 months, um, members 00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:16.135 of your network have come to me and 00:22:16.159 --> 00:22:17.895 stressed the importance of this summit. 00:22:17.919 --> 00:22:19.336 and I know it's something that you've 00:22:19.360 --> 00:22:21.816 been working towards for many many years 00:22:21.840 --> 00:22:23.496 and there have been a few hurdles along 00:22:23.520 --> 00:22:26.520 the way. So I'm so glad that we can now 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:29.559 accept the ceremonial stick and get 00:22:29.840 --> 00:22:31.576 planning for this special summit in 00:22:31.600 --> 00:22:33.576 2026. 00:22:33.600 --> 00:22:35.976 I see this summit as Port Phillip really 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:38.775 stepping up to be a leader across the 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:41.799 state in this field. Um, and we'll be 00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:45.576 able to welcome people from all over 00:22:45.600 --> 00:22:48.216 the state to Port Phillip and showcase 00:22:48.240 --> 00:22:50.696 their wonderful faith communities and 00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:53.015 work. And we'll also be able to showcase 00:22:53.039 --> 00:22:55.976 some of the fabulous work that our faith 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:58.056 institutions and groups are doing right 00:22:58.080 --> 00:23:00.856 here in City of Port Phillip. 00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:03.576 I believe that it's a summit in November 00:23:03.600 --> 00:23:06.600 2026, but the process um from this day 00:23:07.679 --> 00:23:09.816 over the next sort of 12 months to make 00:23:09.840 --> 00:23:12.296 sure this summit is as fabulous as it it 00:23:12.320 --> 00:23:14.456 can be will be a really constructive 00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:17.480 process both for the council and for 00:23:17.760 --> 00:23:19.655 the communities in which we serve. So 00:23:19.679 --> 00:23:21.256 I'd like to particularly acknowledge the 00:23:21.280 --> 00:23:22.775 inter the members of the interfaith 00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:24.696 network that are here and I look forward 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:26.376 to working with you to make the summit a 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:28.456 wonderful success. 00:23:28.480 --> 00:23:30.775 Thank you, councelor Buckingham. And I 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:32.056 grew up in the outer suburbs in 00:23:32.080 --> 00:23:33.895 Ringwood, so traveling out to Broad 00:23:33.919 --> 00:23:36.456 Meadows. Commuting is something I was 00:23:36.480 --> 00:23:39.096 used to at one stage. I would like to 00:23:39.120 --> 00:23:41.976 invite our members of our multiffaith 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:45.000 network who are here in the gallery to 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:47.976 receive the message stick in 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:50.456 recognition of the transfer to our City 00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:52.616 of Port Phip Multiffa Network in hosting 00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:54.775 the conference. I'd also like to invite 00:23:54.799 --> 00:23:56.696 counselors if they would like to be part 00:23:56.720 --> 00:23:59.655 of a photo in recognition of this event 00:23:59.679 --> 00:24:02.679 or 00:24:07.120 --> 00:24:08.936 the reps. 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:11.960 Great. 00:24:25.600 --> 00:24:28.600 always 00:24:48.159 --> 00:24:49.976 handle. 00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:52.135 Beautiful. 00:24:52.159 --> 00:24:55.159 All right. 00:25:22.159 --> 00:25:23.736 Thank you. 00:25:23.760 --> 00:25:25.496 Thank you once again to our members of 00:25:25.520 --> 00:25:27.576 our multiffaith network in really 00:25:27.600 --> 00:25:30.456 carrying the conference forward, 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:31.895 bringing it back to the City of Port 00:25:31.919 --> 00:25:34.919 Phillip and showing the importance of 00:25:35.679 --> 00:25:38.616 cultural and faith diversity and common 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:40.775 understanding. Thank you for your 00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:42.616 efforts. This is going to be a really 00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:44.135 exciting moment for the City of Port 00:25:44.159 --> 00:25:45.895 Phillip in bringing our communities 00:25:45.919 --> 00:25:47.895 together and I applaud you for this 00:25:47.919 --> 00:25:50.919 initiative. Thank you. 00:25:57.279 --> 00:25:59.895 And we now resume back to our standard 00:25:59.919 --> 00:26:02.056 agenda for this evening. In which case, 00:26:02.080 --> 00:26:04.376 we are moving on to councelor question 00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:06.456 time. Reminding councilors that this is 00:26:06.480 --> 00:26:09.480 for items not on tonight's agenda. Do we 00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:12.535 have any questions from my councelor 00:26:12.559 --> 00:26:15.559 colleagues? 00:26:17.360 --> 00:26:20.135 Councelor Thomann. 00:26:20.159 --> 00:26:23.159 Yes, I've got a question which you 00:26:24.640 --> 00:26:26.936 know City port has already put stuff on 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:28.616 social media but I think it's important 00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:30.775 that this comes to chamber. The state 00:26:30.799 --> 00:26:33.255 government is rushing planning reforms 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:35.096 planning amendment better decisions made 00:26:35.120 --> 00:26:38.120 faster bill 2025 that was developed 00:26:38.240 --> 00:26:41.240 without consulting any councils. I 00:26:41.679 --> 00:26:43.736 believe that it's not not good policy 00:26:43.760 --> 00:26:45.976 reform and it's potentially setting new 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:48.535 problems. So what is council doing to 00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:51.015 express its concerns to this process and 00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:54.039 potential changes? 00:26:54.799 --> 00:26:56.456 Thank you councelor Thomann for your 00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:58.775 question. I refer to our general manager 00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:01.799 of City development Brian T. thank 00:27:01.919 --> 00:27:04.616 you and through you mayor. in terms 00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:07.015 of council's actions in terms of 00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:09.416 expressing its concerns about the 00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:12.440 bill council has joined with the 00:27:12.640 --> 00:27:15.336 MAV and other councils in their campaign 00:27:15.360 --> 00:27:18.360 to raise the bill. we have we are 00:27:18.799 --> 00:27:21.496 seeking that the parliament where the 00:27:21.520 --> 00:27:23.336 bill is currently being considered 00:27:23.360 --> 00:27:25.176 defers consideration of the bill and 00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:28.200 provides a period of consultation 00:27:28.320 --> 00:27:31.320 through a committee process so that the 00:27:31.360 --> 00:27:33.655 impact of the bill can be properly 00:27:33.679 --> 00:27:36.679 examined. Um in addition the mayor has u 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:39.976 passed on that request and outlined 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:43.000 council's concerns in letters to the 00:27:43.840 --> 00:27:46.216 relevant members of parliament. and 00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:47.895 council has also communicated its 00:27:47.919 --> 00:27:50.696 position on our communications 00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:53.496 channels um for the community to 00:27:53.520 --> 00:27:56.520 understand the concerns that we have. 00:27:57.360 --> 00:27:59.576 Thank you, Brian T. Are there any other 00:27:59.600 --> 00:28:01.096 questions from councilors? Councelor 00:28:01.120 --> 00:28:03.255 Holidayiday, the floor is yours. 00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:05.895 thank you, Mayor. Um, I'm wondering 00:28:05.919 --> 00:28:08.856 whether we can offer an update on the 00:28:08.880 --> 00:28:11.655 Cooh's um 00:28:11.679 --> 00:28:14.535 sale of our land for our community who 00:28:14.559 --> 00:28:15.976 might be wondering where we're at with 00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:19.000 that after a month or two. Now, 00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:24.696 I believe our CEO is going to take 00:28:24.720 --> 00:28:26.775 carriage of that question. Chris 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.799 Carroll. 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:32.535 Um, 00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:35.255 yes. Thank you, mayor, and through you. 00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:38.056 I'm just checking my email so I can give 00:28:38.080 --> 00:28:41.080 you an update on that. 00:28:42.399 --> 00:28:45.399 Um, 00:28:46.320 --> 00:28:48.056 so 00:28:48.080 --> 00:28:49.895 the officers have since the decision, 00:28:49.919 --> 00:28:51.496 the officers have been working with 00:28:51.520 --> 00:28:53.336 Coohl's to formalize the transaction 00:28:53.360 --> 00:28:54.856 documentation. 00:28:54.880 --> 00:28:57.015 Um, that's involved some legal input as 00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:58.375 well. It's anticipated that the 00:28:58.399 --> 00:28:59.816 documents will be completed this 00:28:59.840 --> 00:29:01.816 calendar year, so before the end of the 00:29:01.840 --> 00:29:02.856 year. 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:05.880 Um an independent equitable valuation 00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:08.696 process of the land is also underway to 00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:11.096 determine the value of the transaction. 00:29:11.120 --> 00:29:12.936 Um that'll take into account what we 00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:15.015 call the synergistic value arising from 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:17.176 the site Cunsoloidation. 00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.255 Um and the obligations contained within 00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:22.279 the section 173 agreement. technical 00:29:22.399 --> 00:29:24.135 discussions are also continuing to 00:29:24.159 --> 00:29:25.976 ensure ongoing access to the rear of the 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:27.176 adjoining properties. You'll remember 00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.096 that was a concern of some of the 00:29:29.120 --> 00:29:30.616 traders. 00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:32.375 um ensuring that's permanently secured 00:29:32.399 --> 00:29:34.696 via e easements and an enforceable legal 00:29:34.720 --> 00:29:37.255 agreement and that'll enable continue 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:40.056 access to the um rear of the car street 00:29:40.080 --> 00:29:41.895 shops which is a key transaction 00:29:41.919 --> 00:29:43.655 objective of council and officers are 00:29:43.679 --> 00:29:46.679 working on that. Um following execution 00:29:47.679 --> 00:29:49.496 of the documentation coles will commence 00:29:49.520 --> 00:29:51.255 the design development and leazison with 00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:53.176 council with the opportunity for 00:29:53.200 --> 00:29:55.176 community feedback. um council staff 00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:56.535 will be deeply involved in that and 00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:57.976 we'll work with interested community 00:29:58.000 --> 00:30:00.135 groups to ensure that they have an 00:30:00.159 --> 00:30:02.296 opportunity to participate and that'll 00:30:02.320 --> 00:30:04.616 be ahead of a planning application we 00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:07.176 suspect to the state government. Um and 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:08.696 throughout that process we'll continue 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:10.616 to advocate for design excellence, 00:30:10.640 --> 00:30:12.135 heritage conservation and strong 00:30:12.159 --> 00:30:14.856 community outcomes. 00:30:14.880 --> 00:30:17.096 Thank you. Any further questions from 00:30:17.120 --> 00:30:20.120 councilors? 00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:23.480 I always have one. , can council 00:30:24.159 --> 00:30:26.775 please outline where advocacy for 00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:29.655 fisherman's band sits within our broader 00:30:29.679 --> 00:30:32.679 priorities in ensuring its successful 00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:34.856 revitalization as an urban renewal 00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:37.096 precinct. 00:30:37.120 --> 00:30:39.976 Over to you Brian T the general 00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.616 manager of City development. 00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:45.640 thank you. Um and my answer may be 00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:49.096 compleimemented by my colleague Mr. 00:30:49.120 --> 00:30:51.336 Gullan, but um certainly from a council 00:30:51.360 --> 00:30:54.135 perspective um Fisherman's Bend, which 00:30:54.159 --> 00:30:57.159 is um a real risk in terms of the 00:30:58.240 --> 00:30:59.736 requirement 00:30:59.760 --> 00:31:02.696 um to ensure we've got the correct 00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:04.696 infrastructure that our community needs 00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:07.496 both now into and into the future um is 00:31:07.520 --> 00:31:10.520 a clear priority. and a key focus 00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:13.736 of the advocacy is the um delivery of 00:31:13.760 --> 00:31:16.535 public transport to Fisherman's Bend 00:31:16.559 --> 00:31:19.559 particularly the tram and train 00:31:19.679 --> 00:31:22.616 network without which the 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:25.336 development um that is required to 00:31:25.360 --> 00:31:28.296 deliver the vision that we have for 00:31:28.320 --> 00:31:30.535 Fisherman's Bend will struggle to be 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.096 delivered. 00:31:33.120 --> 00:31:35.255 Indeed. James Gin, head of governance 00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:37.176 and advocacy, would you like to add? 00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:39.096 I might just add to that in terms of 00:31:39.120 --> 00:31:41.336 where it stands. So um council 00:31:41.360 --> 00:31:43.736 undertakes a assessment process of our 00:31:43.760 --> 00:31:45.736 advocacy priorities in our forward plan 00:31:45.760 --> 00:31:48.135 for each year. Um this year fisherman's 00:31:48.159 --> 00:31:50.135 bend has been rated at our highest 00:31:50.159 --> 00:31:52.135 tiering in that space. So we have three 00:31:52.159 --> 00:31:54.856 tiers. Fisherman's bend is one of four 00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:57.880 tier one advocacy priorities and as such 00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:00.135 um is treated accordingly and resourced 00:32:00.159 --> 00:32:02.456 accordingly. 00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:03.576 Thank you very much for that 00:32:03.600 --> 00:32:06.600 comprehensive answer. Any final final 00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:09.336 final questions from counselors for 00:32:09.360 --> 00:32:12.360 items not on tonight's agenda? 00:32:13.919 --> 00:32:16.919 If not, we shall move to item six, a 00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:19.736 present, oh, sorry, , petitions, joint 00:32:19.760 --> 00:32:22.616 letters, and deputations. Councilors, we 00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:25.176 have one petition on tonight's agenda, 00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:28.200 and that is item 6.1, a petition in 00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:30.535 relation to resident parking permit in 00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:33.559 Garden City. Councilors, do we have any 00:32:34.080 --> 00:32:35.736 questions of officers in relation to 00:32:35.760 --> 00:32:38.216 this item? Thank you, councelor Casolo. 00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:40.135 The floor is yours. 00:32:40.159 --> 00:32:43.159 Thank you. The um the petitioner um 00:32:43.600 --> 00:32:45.736 asked, "Is council aware of the 00:32:45.760 --> 00:32:48.296 challenges that have come to the area 00:32:48.320 --> 00:32:51.015 due to the Barrack Beacon development 00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:54.039 and the new Narang primary school? 00:32:55.360 --> 00:32:57.736 and what are the plans for this um 00:32:57.760 --> 00:32:59.176 increase in activity in the area or 00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:02.056 parking activity in the area? 00:33:02.080 --> 00:33:04.135 That question has been referred to Mike 00:33:04.159 --> 00:33:06.216 Fischer, a manager of City planning and 00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:08.135 sustainability. 00:33:08.159 --> 00:33:09.416 Through you, mayor, and thank you for 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:12.296 the question, councelor. So, um, yes, in 00:33:12.320 --> 00:33:15.320 terms of the, um, concern, council staff 00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:18.856 officers are aware of that and I think 00:33:18.880 --> 00:33:20.375 in terms of the the different elements 00:33:20.399 --> 00:33:22.456 in the petition, we're going to go away 00:33:22.480 --> 00:33:24.216 and make sure we've got a a full answer 00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:26.696 to come back to council ensure that we 00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:28.296 have gone through everything and can 00:33:28.320 --> 00:33:31.320 make sure that we um, 00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:33.255 , address those concerns because we 00:33:33.279 --> 00:33:35.255 understand the anticipated concern and 00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:37.096 and what they're facing and thinking 00:33:37.120 --> 00:33:39.576 about is um, quite a large change. So, 00:33:39.600 --> 00:33:41.816 we want to make sure we we're across it. 00:33:41.840 --> 00:33:44.456 Thank you. Um, with the Beric Beacon 00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:47.480 development, would those residents be 00:33:47.760 --> 00:33:50.135 eligible for parking permits? 00:33:50.159 --> 00:33:51.816 So, through you, mayor. Um, so that's 00:33:51.840 --> 00:33:53.736 what we're going to come back to council 00:33:53.760 --> 00:33:55.816 for so we can address all those 00:33:55.840 --> 00:33:57.176 different elements and come back with a 00:33:57.200 --> 00:33:58.616 full answer about what is the 00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:00.696 eligibility and what are the areas and 00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:02.456 boundaries that could relate to that. 00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:03.816 So, that's what we want to come back to 00:34:03.840 --> 00:34:05.255 at a future council meeting. Thank you. 00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:07.015 Response. 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:08.375 Any further questions? Councelor 00:34:08.399 --> 00:34:10.855 Holidayiday. 00:34:10.879 --> 00:34:13.016 with apologies. Thank you, Maya. 00:34:13.040 --> 00:34:14.456 just to be clear here though, isn't 00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:16.696 don't we have an established um position 00:34:16.720 --> 00:34:19.335 around new developments that expand 00:34:19.359 --> 00:34:21.176 the amount of rental stock? the 00:34:21.200 --> 00:34:23.095 residents of those developments are no 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:26.119 longer entitled to parking permits 00:34:26.399 --> 00:34:26.855 through you. 00:34:26.879 --> 00:34:28.296 Question mark. 00:34:28.320 --> 00:34:29.416 Through you, mayor, and thank you for 00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:30.696 the question. Yes, we certainly have our 00:34:30.720 --> 00:34:33.575 parking policy which has no new increase 00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:36.599 in residential new dwellings getting 00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:38.055 parking permits. That's what we be doing 00:34:38.079 --> 00:34:39.976 the assessment against to make sure that 00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:41.736 we're aware and we can address the 00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:43.256 concerns about the existing residents 00:34:43.280 --> 00:34:45.416 and what that looks like for them with 00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:48.440 parking permits. 00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:51.800 Sorry if I could just assist too. I 00:34:51.839 --> 00:34:54.135 think the other part of the answer is 00:34:54.159 --> 00:34:56.296 while the Barrack beacon development may 00:34:56.320 --> 00:34:59.016 not is not eligible because it is a 00:34:59.040 --> 00:35:00.856 post202 00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:02.856 developments there are within the policy 00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:05.256 criteria which may allow for the 00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.280 eligibility of um residents outside of 00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:10.776 Barrack Beacon who may if they meet the 00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.656 criteria which which go to sort of u 00:35:13.680 --> 00:35:15.815 parking demand may be eligible and 00:35:15.839 --> 00:35:17.896 that's what my colleague is um 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:20.616 indicating we are investigating 00:35:20.640 --> 00:35:23.640 council holiday. 00:35:24.240 --> 00:35:25.815 Are are there any um parking 00:35:25.839 --> 00:35:27.256 restrictions in place at the moment 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:30.280 around Barrack Beacon development? 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:33.656 Um most of the area is unrestricted 00:35:33.680 --> 00:35:36.216 parking, hence the um concern that was 00:35:36.240 --> 00:35:38.696 raised about the the um construction 00:35:38.720 --> 00:35:41.016 vehicles and um parking on on the 00:35:41.040 --> 00:35:42.376 streets at the moment. And that's again 00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:44.696 part of that assessment as to 00:35:44.720 --> 00:35:46.776 restrictions and and what may be 00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:49.800 required. So we need to do that work. 00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:52.920 I'll go ahead across to councelor Jay. 00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.960 I'll just unmute. Um, how many residents 00:36:00.720 --> 00:36:03.016 are we expecting to live at Barrack 00:36:03.040 --> 00:36:05.736 Beacon and how many parking spots have 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:08.760 been provided inside the building for 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:11.016 these residents? 00:36:11.040 --> 00:36:12.696 Sorry, you might not have the answer. It 00:36:12.720 --> 00:36:14.055 was just a 00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:16.296 Yes. So through you may I don't I'd have 00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:18.055 to come back with the exact answer on 00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:19.976 the number of expected residents. So we 00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.536 know significant increase in the number 00:36:22.560 --> 00:36:24.136 of dwellings on the site in terms of 00:36:24.160 --> 00:36:27.160 expected residents and the expected car 00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:29.815 parking demand based on the number of 00:36:29.839 --> 00:36:31.815 small number of car parks available on 00:36:31.839 --> 00:36:33.335 the site. So we'll have to come back 00:36:33.359 --> 00:36:35.496 with that answer. 00:36:35.520 --> 00:36:37.575 Thank you. Council Holidayiday. 00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.136 Thank you mayor. Um 00:36:40.160 --> 00:36:43.016 just notwithstanding the petition 00:36:43.040 --> 00:36:45.176 that we have in front of us um obviously 00:36:45.200 --> 00:36:47.976 from the concerned community members um 00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:50.776 what process can community members go 00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:53.335 through to establish parking 00:36:53.359 --> 00:36:55.976 restrictions in their area if they have 00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:58.856 the concerns that we're seeing here 00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:01.095 around the barrack beacon 00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:03.496 development. So through you may so we 00:37:03.520 --> 00:37:05.656 have an established process through our 00:37:05.680 --> 00:37:08.136 parking policy where residents can 00:37:08.160 --> 00:37:11.160 apply. So any street or any area of of 00:37:11.520 --> 00:37:13.976 Port Phillip um a number of residents 00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:17.000 can um apply get a number of residents 00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:20.599 around them to put in um their response. 00:37:21.520 --> 00:37:22.776 Do they agree with this particular 00:37:22.800 --> 00:37:24.696 restriction that they're asking? Their 00:37:24.720 --> 00:37:27.016 officers then assessment assess that. We 00:37:27.040 --> 00:37:29.335 will then do an assessment and a 00:37:29.359 --> 00:37:31.016 community engagement looking at is that 00:37:31.040 --> 00:37:33.095 the majority of residents on the street 00:37:33.119 --> 00:37:35.095 who are asking that and then look at the 00:37:35.119 --> 00:37:36.536 the restrictions that are being asked 00:37:36.560 --> 00:37:38.456 for and then does that meet the policy. 00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:40.696 So we have a a number about four steps 00:37:40.720 --> 00:37:42.776 of that we run through to make sure that 00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.656 we have a majority that we look at the 00:37:45.680 --> 00:37:47.335 restrictions do the assessment on the 00:37:47.359 --> 00:37:49.016 site go back out for community 00:37:49.040 --> 00:37:50.856 consultation and come back and and make 00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:53.335 that change if if required. Council Hel 00:37:53.359 --> 00:37:55.176 and and just to be clear, this petition 00:37:55.200 --> 00:37:56.856 is not the first step in that process, 00:37:56.880 --> 00:37:58.296 right? There's a different process they 00:37:58.320 --> 00:38:01.320 have to go through to instigate that. 00:38:01.359 --> 00:38:03.656 Yeah. So, this this petition is asking 00:38:03.680 --> 00:38:05.095 for some particular things that we'll go 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:06.936 away and assess and we will come back 00:38:06.960 --> 00:38:09.335 and look at what else needs to happen to 00:38:09.359 --> 00:38:12.359 ensure that we're meeting the policy um 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:14.216 objectives that we've got and making 00:38:14.240 --> 00:38:16.856 sure that we've got the majority um and 00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:18.696 the right community consultation etc. 00:38:18.720 --> 00:38:20.856 that may need to happen on the back of 00:38:20.880 --> 00:38:23.095 this. 00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:26.119 Any further questions on this item? 00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:31.016 If not, we do have a recommendation 00:38:31.040 --> 00:38:33.016 before us. Would someone like to move 00:38:33.040 --> 00:38:36.040 this? Councelor Cunsolo is moving, 00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:39.256 seconded. Councelor Crawford, would the 00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:40.536 mover like to speak? 00:38:40.560 --> 00:38:42.536 Yes. I'd like to thank the um 00:38:42.560 --> 00:38:44.856 petitioners, everyone who signed it 00:38:44.880 --> 00:38:46.536 for bringing this to council's 00:38:46.560 --> 00:38:48.536 attention. , Garden City is not even 00:38:48.560 --> 00:38:50.216 an area most people know where it is, 00:38:50.240 --> 00:38:53.016 but it incorporates the area known as 00:38:53.040 --> 00:38:56.040 Beacon Cove next to it where this where 00:38:56.160 --> 00:38:57.416 this development, the Barry Beacon 00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:59.575 development touches Beacon Cove, the 00:38:59.599 --> 00:39:01.095 Fisherman's Bend Estate, and the Garden 00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:04.119 City Estate, which is referred to mostly 00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:07.480 as Garden City. Now, this um 00:39:08.720 --> 00:39:10.936 this petition was only open for a very 00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:13.095 short time. I would say maybe 36 hours. 00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.815 So 48 people who signed it is just to 00:39:15.839 --> 00:39:18.136 try to get it in quickly to see you know 00:39:18.160 --> 00:39:20.536 let's see where this next steps go. 00:39:20.560 --> 00:39:22.136 the interest in it is much greater than 00:39:22.160 --> 00:39:25.160 that number. the Beric Beacon 00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:29.000 development or the the estate was 88 00:39:29.359 --> 00:39:32.055 units and it's going to 408 units. They 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:34.856 vary in number of um bedrooms. So, the 00:39:34.880 --> 00:39:36.936 number of residents is going to get 00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.815 up there quickly. And yes, the parking 00:39:39.839 --> 00:39:42.839 allowed for it, it's very low ratio. 00:39:43.920 --> 00:39:45.815 None of this area has restricted 00:39:45.839 --> 00:39:48.216 parking, which has been good times. 00:39:48.240 --> 00:39:50.536 We've it's been easy to park, easy to 00:39:50.560 --> 00:39:52.776 live there, but this is a big change to 00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:55.016 the area. And it's not just that, it's 00:39:55.040 --> 00:39:58.040 also very close um bordered to 00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.016 Fisherman's Ben development. So, we've 00:40:01.040 --> 00:40:03.656 got a new school. We've got lots of new 00:40:03.680 --> 00:40:04.936 town houses. I actually don't have the 00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:07.176 number, but quite a few that have all 00:40:07.200 --> 00:40:10.200 just popped up at once. That the parking 00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:12.136 is never enough to meet the requirements 00:40:12.160 --> 00:40:13.656 of this area without public 00:40:13.680 --> 00:40:16.136 transportation. we are looking for 00:40:16.160 --> 00:40:17.896 that tram and train, all these things to 00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:20.456 come to Fisherman's Bend. Otherwise, 00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:23.480 they still park in Garden City. And this 00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:25.656 crunch is coming from nearly all angles 00:40:25.680 --> 00:40:27.256 except for the beach, except for on hot 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:29.736 days. The beach does get parked up, too. 00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:32.760 So this broader look at it is a way 00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:34.936 and I look forward to what the officers 00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.416 come back to us. It may be that they go 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:39.016 back to the traditional way of breaking 00:40:39.040 --> 00:40:41.896 it down per street but then just pushes 00:40:41.920 --> 00:40:43.656 to the next street. So the holistic 00:40:43.680 --> 00:40:45.575 wider area may be the right way to go 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:47.416 here. Thank you. 00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:49.416 Thank you councelor Crawford. Would the 00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:52.440 second wish to speak? 00:40:52.640 --> 00:40:55.640 Any opposition to the motion before us? 00:40:56.319 --> 00:40:57.736 If not, no opposition has been 00:40:57.760 --> 00:40:59.016 indicated. Is there anyone else that 00:40:59.040 --> 00:41:00.536 would like to speak to this motion 00:41:00.560 --> 00:41:02.936 before we move back to the mover to 00:41:02.960 --> 00:41:05.896 close? Mover doesn't wish to close. We 00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:07.575 have a motion before us. Can we have a 00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:10.599 show of hands in support of that motion? 00:41:11.280 --> 00:41:14.280 That motion is carried unanimously. 00:41:14.319 --> 00:41:17.319 Thank you. 00:41:19.280 --> 00:41:22.280 And now we will move on to 00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.496 item 7 to 13, our presentation of 00:41:25.520 --> 00:41:28.456 officer reports. So, , councilors will 00:41:28.480 --> 00:41:29.976 now move through the presentation 00:41:30.000 --> 00:41:33.000 reports. Just to note that item 10.1, 00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:35.496 amendment C219 00:41:35.520 --> 00:41:37.656 port, , otherwise known as the South 00:41:37.680 --> 00:41:39.256 Melbourne structure plan, has been 00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:41.095 deferred to the 3rd of December council 00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:44.119 meeting in line with governance rule 21. 00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:47.176 I refer to Brian T, our general manager 00:41:47.200 --> 00:41:48.776 of City development, just to speak to 00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:51.656 that deferment. 00:41:51.680 --> 00:41:54.680 , thank you, , mayor. the um 00:41:55.520 --> 00:41:58.216 report um will be deferred until the 00:41:58.240 --> 00:42:00.295 next meeting and the reason for that 00:42:00.319 --> 00:42:03.319 is the council received um three late 00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.800 submissions including a submission from 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:10.616 the state government. in addition 00:42:10.640 --> 00:42:13.640 there were 14 submissions that should 00:42:13.839 --> 00:42:15.575 have been considered as part of the 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:18.599 report that weren't. so we want to 00:42:18.640 --> 00:42:20.696 make sure that council has an 00:42:20.720 --> 00:42:22.376 opportunity to consider all of those 00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:25.400 submissions in the report when the 00:42:25.599 --> 00:42:27.736 report comes back to it to make um so 00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:29.896 council can make a decision. we have 00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:32.920 advised all of the submitters of the 00:42:33.440 --> 00:42:35.496 deferral to the 3rd of December meeting 00:42:35.520 --> 00:42:37.416 so that they have an opportunity to 00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:38.696 present at the meeting should they 00:42:38.720 --> 00:42:41.095 choose to do so. 00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:43.575 Thank you. 00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:46.599 All right. Let's move on to item 7.1, 00:42:47.040 --> 00:42:49.016 the presentation of the CO report, 00:42:49.040 --> 00:42:52.040 September 25, issue 122. Do we have any 00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:56.599 questions on this item before us? 00:42:58.319 --> 00:43:01.319 Councelor Buckingham 00:43:01.359 --> 00:43:03.256 through you, Mayor. I note that the St. 00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:06.280 C adventure playground is marked as 00:43:06.640 --> 00:43:09.640 at risk. Could we please have an update 00:43:09.839 --> 00:43:12.456 on how this project is going and in 00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:14.856 particular how the council is working to 00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:17.815 ensure that the unique adventurous 00:43:17.839 --> 00:43:20.536 nature of the playground is preserved in 00:43:20.560 --> 00:43:23.560 the new build. 00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:26.295 I refer to Paul Wood, acting general 00:43:26.319 --> 00:43:29.016 manager of City infrastructure. 00:43:29.040 --> 00:43:31.176 thank you for the question 00:43:31.200 --> 00:43:33.016 councelor Buckingham through you mayor. 00:43:33.040 --> 00:43:34.936 I may need to take part of this on 00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:37.335 notice. The um the update notes the 00:43:37.359 --> 00:43:39.896 project is at risk of missing current 00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:41.736 milestones due to a revised procurement 00:43:41.760 --> 00:43:44.696 approach. Um the landscaping clubhouse 00:43:44.720 --> 00:43:47.496 works will now be procured separately. 00:43:47.520 --> 00:43:49.736 and the business case of landscaping 00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:51.896 and update um project milestones as 00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:54.920 reflected u as reflected in the 00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:57.575 report. Um the pro procurement of the 00:43:57.599 --> 00:43:58.936 landscape construction contractor 00:43:58.960 --> 00:44:01.416 remains on track for November. um and 00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:03.335 the designers at Tender Stage for final 00:44:03.359 --> 00:44:05.815 internal feedback received. Um other 00:44:05.839 --> 00:44:08.536 than that, I I'll provide a separate um 00:44:08.560 --> 00:44:10.536 response to that. 00:44:10.560 --> 00:44:11.095 Thank you. 00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:13.815 And Kylie Bennett, would you like to 00:44:13.839 --> 00:44:15.016 through through 00:44:15.040 --> 00:44:16.136 the general manager of community 00:44:16.160 --> 00:44:17.496 wellbeing would like would you like to 00:44:17.520 --> 00:44:18.616 add to that response? 00:44:18.640 --> 00:44:20.696 Through you, mayor. Thank you for the 00:44:20.720 --> 00:44:23.416 opportunity to add. Um we're certainly 00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:25.575 looking at opportunities to make sure 00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:28.599 that the playground when it's open 00:44:29.200 --> 00:44:32.200 is a special and and wonderful magical 00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:35.480 place for families right from the 00:44:35.599 --> 00:44:38.599 word go. Um so we are looking at 00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:41.800 options around how we might engage 00:44:42.640 --> 00:44:45.416 local artists to work with families and 00:44:45.440 --> 00:44:48.440 users of the center. we'll be coming 00:44:48.720 --> 00:44:51.575 to council with some options. I 00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:53.256 believe either later this year or 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:56.280 certainly early next year in relation 00:44:56.800 --> 00:44:59.800 to to that. Um also making sure that 00:45:00.240 --> 00:45:03.176 there's an opportunity for the 00:45:03.200 --> 00:45:05.575 adventure playground to grow and for 00:45:05.599 --> 00:45:08.295 people to build on that as the as the 00:45:08.319 --> 00:45:10.216 playground comes to life. But we are 00:45:10.240 --> 00:45:12.055 certainly looking for opportunities to 00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.079 make it special right from day one. 00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:17.815 Thank you. councelor Thomann, I 00:45:17.839 --> 00:45:19.416 thought I saw your hand before. Did you 00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:21.256 have a further a question you wish to 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:22.376 ask? 00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:25.016 Yes, I've got a question about the 00:45:25.040 --> 00:45:27.656 echosenter red because it is off track. 00:45:27.680 --> 00:45:30.680 So is that um obviously it's open. Um so 00:45:32.240 --> 00:45:34.536 can I please understand why this 00:45:34.560 --> 00:45:36.936 considered as off track and not even you 00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:39.960 know a lesser kind of qualification. 00:45:41.920 --> 00:45:44.136 Thank you. so that was in relation to 00:45:44.160 --> 00:45:46.616 the ecoenter. I will refer to Brian T, 00:45:46.640 --> 00:45:48.536 our general manager of City development. 00:45:48.560 --> 00:45:50.776 Thank you. And through you, mayor. 00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:53.800 yes, I can um indicate that the 00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:57.400 eco center is indeed fully functional 00:45:57.839 --> 00:46:00.839 and the eco center has moved in and 00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:03.960 is is um undertaking the community 00:46:04.319 --> 00:46:05.976 service that it delivers through that 00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:09.000 center. the reason that the um 00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:12.760 project is um off track is that the 00:46:14.560 --> 00:46:16.776 we're awaiting I suppose the closure 00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:18.616 report. What we've got in place at the 00:46:18.640 --> 00:46:20.616 minute now is we're working through 00:46:20.640 --> 00:46:22.856 the green straw energy ratings to make 00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:24.936 sure that they have been fully 00:46:24.960 --> 00:46:27.335 complied with. We're working through 00:46:27.359 --> 00:46:29.575 the defaults period through the 00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.736 contract to make sure that if there 00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:34.216 are any defects they are picked up. Um 00:46:34.240 --> 00:46:36.616 and we are keeping the file open 00:46:36.640 --> 00:46:38.776 while we work through u those 00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:41.575 contingencies. Um it's off track because 00:46:41.599 --> 00:46:43.095 technically not technically it should 00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:45.256 have been completed some time ago. 00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:46.776 However, we've got an overhang period 00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:49.800 while we work through those processes. 00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:52.376 Thank you. Do we have further questions 00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:55.400 in relation to item 7.1? 00:46:56.560 --> 00:46:59.560 If not, 00:46:59.839 --> 00:47:02.839 councelor Jay, any question? 00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:07.079 No. If not, then we do have a 00:47:07.599 --> 00:47:09.896 recommendation before us. Is there a 00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:11.496 council that wishes to move the 00:47:11.520 --> 00:47:13.496 recommendation? 00:47:13.520 --> 00:47:15.896 Moved. Councelor Holidayiday seconded. 00:47:15.920 --> 00:47:17.976 Councelor Thomann. Councelor Holidayiday, 00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:20.696 the floor is yours. 00:47:20.720 --> 00:47:22.055 Thank you, Mayor. Once again, I'd like 00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:23.896 to commend all of the officers for 00:47:23.920 --> 00:47:26.920 the work and the CEO um on the CEO 00:47:27.520 --> 00:47:29.496 report. Um it's a wealth of information 00:47:29.520 --> 00:47:31.736 about the projects that we're currently 00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:33.896 delivering. Um some of them a little 00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:36.136 late but they get there in the end 00:47:36.160 --> 00:47:37.976 and they are well worth it like the 00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:41.000 ecoenter. So, , once again, um, it's a 00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:44.280 it's a great report and I, um, 00:47:44.720 --> 00:47:46.216 appreciate having all of the information 00:47:46.240 --> 00:47:48.136 in it. 00:47:48.160 --> 00:47:51.160 Thank you. , councelor Timman, 00:47:52.240 --> 00:47:55.240 any opposition to that motion before us? 00:47:55.839 --> 00:47:58.456 Any other speakers wish to speak to this 00:47:58.480 --> 00:47:59.976 item? 00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:03.000 Would the mover like to close? If not, 00:48:03.680 --> 00:48:05.896 then there is a motion before us. Can we 00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:07.496 have a show of hands indicating our 00:48:07.520 --> 00:48:08.936 support? 00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:11.960 And that is carried unanimously. 00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:17.000 That moves us to item 8.1. 00:48:19.200 --> 00:48:21.575 Don't waste it. Waste and recycling 00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:24.599 strategy 2025 to 28. Are there any 00:48:24.880 --> 00:48:26.936 questions for our council officers 00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:29.960 here this evening? 00:48:30.319 --> 00:48:33.319 Councelor Holidayiday. It was 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:36.696 of course. 00:48:36.720 --> 00:48:39.176 thank you ma'am. 00:48:39.200 --> 00:48:41.335 Um 00:48:41.359 --> 00:48:43.896 one of the issues that we have um is 00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.856 with dumped rubbish from um flats and 00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:49.016 certainly areas that have a large number 00:48:49.040 --> 00:48:50.936 of flats and a large number of renters 00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:53.960 see it seems to see a increased amount 00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:57.176 of um hard rubbish dumped out the 00:48:57.200 --> 00:48:59.575 front of them. I'm wondering um we've 00:48:59.599 --> 00:49:01.976 discussed during the course of the year 00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.000 um undertaking some outreach to new 00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:07.095 residents, to renters, to people moving 00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:09.335 in, informing them about our hard 00:49:09.359 --> 00:49:10.856 rubbish collection service. I'm 00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.880 wondering where we're at with that. 00:49:15.680 --> 00:49:17.496 Thank you, 00:49:17.520 --> 00:49:19.416 Stephanie, and and Simon. 00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.440 Hi, thank you. Um through you, mayor. Um 00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:25.736 in so in the strategy itself, action 2.2 00:49:25.760 --> 00:49:27.976 two is specifically about identifying 00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:31.000 and engaging um with appropriate users 00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:33.736 to improve information um to and 00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:35.575 engagement of renters. And we also have 00:49:35.599 --> 00:49:38.599 um 3.4 which is review our hardened 00:49:38.720 --> 00:49:40.216 green waste collection and drop off 00:49:40.240 --> 00:49:42.136 services to ensure they're equitable and 00:49:42.160 --> 00:49:44.295 relevant to the community's needs. These 00:49:44.319 --> 00:49:46.295 were designed specifically to target 00:49:46.319 --> 00:49:49.319 this this um difficulty that we have 00:49:50.000 --> 00:49:52.216 been seeing. This work itself will be 00:49:52.240 --> 00:49:54.696 quite staff resource intensive and as a 00:49:54.720 --> 00:49:56.216 result we've been waiting on the 00:49:56.240 --> 00:49:58.376 adoption of the strategy to seriously 00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:00.216 progress it. We have started some 00:50:00.240 --> 00:50:01.976 preliminary work by reaching out to 00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:04.856 owners corpse to owners corporations 00:50:04.880 --> 00:50:07.335 in order to um discuss how we can best 00:50:07.359 --> 00:50:10.359 do this and we've got a we've got a 00:50:10.640 --> 00:50:13.640 preliminary process of of 00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:15.896 project related actions that we're 00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:18.616 hoping to commence pretty shortly. 00:50:18.640 --> 00:50:19.896 Thank you Stephanie. And I should 00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:21.496 mention that you are a program director 00:50:21.520 --> 00:50:24.520 of waste futures. Thank you. 00:50:25.599 --> 00:50:28.599 Any any further questions? 00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:31.256 Councelor Holidayiday. 00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:33.896 I'm using up everyone's questions. Um 00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:35.736 thank you mayor. just taking up 00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:37.656 Frank's question before. What um 00:50:37.680 --> 00:50:39.256 consideration has council given to 00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:42.280 participating in in waste to energy 00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:45.815 programs? I said energy to waste in 00:50:45.839 --> 00:50:47.656 my thing, but waste to energy is what I 00:50:47.680 --> 00:50:49.815 meant. Um, thank you for the question 00:50:49.839 --> 00:50:51.656 and thank you Frank for the question as 00:50:51.680 --> 00:50:54.295 well through you mayor. Um, so council 00:50:54.319 --> 00:50:57.256 is we are sorry council officers are 00:50:57.280 --> 00:50:58.776 aware of the southeast council 00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:00.696 partnership and the proposed upcoming 00:51:00.720 --> 00:51:02.856 partnerships with other organizations. 00:51:02.880 --> 00:51:04.535 Um, council doesn't currently have an 00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:06.295 adopted view on the waste to energy 00:51:06.319 --> 00:51:08.535 model. Um but we are investigating all 00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:11.559 the up upcoming 00:51:11.920 --> 00:51:14.616 opportunities in this area in order to 00:51:14.640 --> 00:51:16.696 determine what the best option might be 00:51:16.720 --> 00:51:19.496 and to present recommendations. 00:51:19.520 --> 00:51:22.136 Um there is capaCity in the don't waste 00:51:22.160 --> 00:51:24.856 it strategy to support waste energy um 00:51:24.880 --> 00:51:27.256 in the context of decreased capaCity in 00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:28.776 our landfills and through our 00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:31.800 participation in M9 um officers me will 00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:35.416 engage with the waste to energy industry 00:51:35.440 --> 00:51:37.656 license holders um prior to the end of 00:51:37.680 --> 00:51:40.136 this calendar year to collect relevant 00:51:40.160 --> 00:51:41.896 market intelligence for analysis and 00:51:41.920 --> 00:51:44.616 assessment and report back. Um at the 00:51:44.640 --> 00:51:47.640 same time um we do um recognize that we 00:51:48.240 --> 00:51:49.575 have to consider the impacts on our 00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:51.095 neighbors of our support of such 00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:52.936 facilities. which is why the real 00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:54.856 focus of the strategy is on reducing 00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:56.616 what goes in the landfill bin before 00:51:56.640 --> 00:51:58.055 anything else. But that's also why we've 00:51:58.079 --> 00:51:59.496 got the capaCity to explore those 00:51:59.520 --> 00:52:02.295 opportunities. 00:52:02.319 --> 00:52:05.319 Further questions councelor Holidayiday. 00:52:05.440 --> 00:52:07.256 and just following up again another 00:52:07.280 --> 00:52:10.280 question from Frank. Um 00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:13.880 what what strategies do we have um as a 00:52:14.640 --> 00:52:16.856 council for reducing our overall waste 00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:18.456 volume 00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:21.095 and and the amount of waste going to 00:52:21.119 --> 00:52:23.496 landfill? Like what levers can we can we 00:52:23.520 --> 00:52:26.520 pull to reduce this these two kind of 00:52:27.680 --> 00:52:29.896 two numbers of waste that we ultimately 00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:32.376 um a we produce in total and b that goes 00:52:32.400 --> 00:52:35.335 into a landfill. 00:52:35.359 --> 00:52:38.359 Um thank you. 00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:42.920 sorry my brain is just 00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:45.496 we have 00:52:45.520 --> 00:52:48.520 I think probably four main levers that 00:52:49.440 --> 00:52:51.896 we are looking to exercise at this time. 00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:54.216 The primary one is education and 00:52:54.240 --> 00:52:55.656 engagement including supporting 00:52:55.680 --> 00:52:57.416 initiatives that build skills in our 00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:00.055 community. in our consultation in 00:53:00.079 --> 00:53:01.896 both parts of the consultation for the 00:53:01.920 --> 00:53:03.896 strategy we heard that our community 00:53:03.920 --> 00:53:05.736 doesn't necessarily know what to do and 00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:07.656 when um when they do know what to do 00:53:07.680 --> 00:53:09.095 there are lots of barriers in place. So 00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:11.095 we want to work with our community in 00:53:11.119 --> 00:53:12.856 partnership in order to build 00:53:12.880 --> 00:53:14.856 capaCity and also trust in using the 00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:17.880 system. Um we also want to review and in 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:19.976 some instances codify a lot of our 00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:21.815 policies. We've got a lot of processes 00:53:21.839 --> 00:53:23.656 in place that have been there for a 00:53:23.680 --> 00:53:25.256 really long time as services have been 00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:26.696 added and so we've got a highly 00:53:26.720 --> 00:53:28.936 customized waste service. If I can give 00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:31.016 an example, one of the actions is to 00:53:31.040 --> 00:53:32.696 review our waste management planning 00:53:32.720 --> 00:53:34.295 guidelines which will guide future 00:53:34.319 --> 00:53:36.295 apartment buildings. And so will allow 00:53:36.319 --> 00:53:38.376 us to say, hey, you haven't made room 00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:41.400 for an expected future stream or we you 00:53:41.920 --> 00:53:44.216 haven't made allowances for, you know, 00:53:44.240 --> 00:53:46.216 dealing with e-waste and and that sort 00:53:46.240 --> 00:53:47.815 of stuff. So that's that's another lever 00:53:47.839 --> 00:53:49.896 that we have in place. um bringing in 00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:52.295 curbside glass and other changes that 00:53:52.319 --> 00:53:53.575 we're making in alignment with the 00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:56.216 circular economy act will also help 00:53:56.240 --> 00:53:58.295 that. Um and part of that is also 00:53:58.319 --> 00:54:00.535 standardizing some of our offerings. And 00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:02.856 then finally advocacy. We recognize that 00:54:02.880 --> 00:54:04.535 as much as we can do, there's a lot we 00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:06.136 can't do it at local government. And so 00:54:06.160 --> 00:54:08.456 we're really also going to work out how 00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:11.335 we can better advocate together with 00:54:11.359 --> 00:54:13.256 other M9 councils, but also individually 00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:14.776 and also just with other councils in 00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.800 general um to advocate with towards the 00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:20.936 state and federal government. 00:54:20.960 --> 00:54:23.815 Thank you, Council Hel. Any further 00:54:23.839 --> 00:54:25.815 questions? 00:54:25.839 --> 00:54:28.839 Councelor Jay. 00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:32.216 Um thank you. I actually have a few 00:54:32.240 --> 00:54:34.856 questions, so bear with me. Um, I do 00:54:34.880 --> 00:54:36.856 want to thank the officers for their 00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:39.256 passion and dedication to this report. 00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:41.976 We, um, discussed this in many, many 00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:44.055 briefings and and I'm excited for 00:54:44.079 --> 00:54:45.976 tonight. So, 00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:47.976 um, I've got a couple of questions that 00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:49.815 come from the community. So, Steph, is 00:54:49.839 --> 00:54:52.535 there any way we can as a council 00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:55.095 encourage new builds to have different 00:54:55.119 --> 00:54:57.736 channels for waste such as clothing bins 00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:00.535 as one as part of their waste strategy 00:55:00.559 --> 00:55:03.559 and channels for all new build bills? 00:55:10.160 --> 00:55:12.696 Um, sorry through you, Mayor. Thank you, 00:55:12.720 --> 00:55:15.016 Councelor J. Um, I think I've kind of 00:55:15.040 --> 00:55:17.016 covered that. So, the specific action is 00:55:17.040 --> 00:55:19.256 3.7, which is specifically about 00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:20.856 reviewing and redesigning. So, that's 00:55:20.880 --> 00:55:23.815 about new builds and any anything 00:55:23.839 --> 00:55:25.095 that has to go through the planning 00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:26.776 process, we'll cover that up. And then 00:55:26.800 --> 00:55:29.736 as we work with the we've got a whole 00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:31.496 MUDS program that we're in the process 00:55:31.520 --> 00:55:32.856 of developing right now which is 00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:35.016 specifically focused on existing 00:55:35.040 --> 00:55:36.776 apartment buildings. 00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:39.335 Very good. Um how much budget has been 00:55:39.359 --> 00:55:41.976 allocated to education annually to get 00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:45.000 the message out? 00:55:45.040 --> 00:55:47.736 Y through you may um we've currently 00:55:47.760 --> 00:55:50.760 budgeted $94,000 this financial year for 00:55:50.799 --> 00:55:53.496 education. it is likely we'll need to 00:55:53.520 --> 00:55:55.896 budget more next year to ask council for 00:55:55.920 --> 00:55:58.055 more next year. Um especially if we make 00:55:58.079 --> 00:56:00.295 u big changes as is laid out in the 00:56:00.319 --> 00:56:02.696 waist strategy such as rolling out glass 00:56:02.720 --> 00:56:05.496 or moving towards fortnite garbage. 00:56:05.520 --> 00:56:07.416 Thank you Simon Hill our executive 00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:10.376 manager waste and City maintenance 00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:13.176 that thank you that sounds like Simon. 00:56:13.200 --> 00:56:15.575 Um Simon in in light of that there's 00:56:15.599 --> 00:56:18.376 been some um excitement and confusion 00:56:18.400 --> 00:56:21.095 about the glass bin. , can it be 00:56:21.119 --> 00:56:23.976 optional and people can they opt out of 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:27.000 having the glass bin 00:56:27.119 --> 00:56:28.775 through your mayor? Thanks, councelor 00:56:28.799 --> 00:56:30.616 Jay. Unfortunately, the Victorian 00:56:30.640 --> 00:56:32.295 government has legislated this service 00:56:32.319 --> 00:56:34.535 through the circularly economy act and 00:56:34.559 --> 00:56:36.535 the service standards. We cannot let 00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:38.936 people opt out of the glass bin service. 00:56:38.960 --> 00:56:41.016 we are currently collaborating with 00:56:41.040 --> 00:56:44.040 other councils and um DGA to advocate 00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:47.079 how we roll out the glass service um so 00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:48.696 that we can provide a combination of 00:56:48.720 --> 00:56:51.720 glass and hubs and curbside glass 00:56:53.359 --> 00:56:56.359 bins that will suit our community. 00:56:57.200 --> 00:57:00.200 Excellent. Thank you. Um we still got a 00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:03.335 few more to go. um with the apartments. 00:57:03.359 --> 00:57:05.176 I've got some apartments in domain 00:57:05.200 --> 00:57:08.200 wondering um how much of their waste 00:57:09.280 --> 00:57:11.256 charge. So the question is how much is 00:57:11.280 --> 00:57:13.176 an apartment's waste charge with or 00:57:13.200 --> 00:57:14.936 without private collection and what do 00:57:14.960 --> 00:57:17.256 apartments with private collections 00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:19.496 receive for their waste charge that they 00:57:19.520 --> 00:57:22.520 pay in their rates? 00:57:22.880 --> 00:57:25.880 For you may um apartments pay $230.30 30 00:57:27.520 --> 00:57:30.456 unless they have a private collection, 00:57:30.480 --> 00:57:32.535 therefore are entitled to a rebate of 00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:35.016 $89. So the net cost would then be 00:57:35.040 --> 00:57:38.040 $14130 peranom. 00:57:39.359 --> 00:57:41.815 Great. And and and what services are 00:57:41.839 --> 00:57:44.839 they um do they get for that that um 00:57:45.119 --> 00:57:46.936 that charge? 00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:49.656 They get hard rubbish. 00:57:49.680 --> 00:57:51.575 If they don't receive a council um 00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:53.656 curbside bin service, they they are 00:57:53.680 --> 00:57:55.256 entitled to a hard waste collection 00:57:55.280 --> 00:57:57.335 service. 00:57:57.359 --> 00:58:00.359 Excellent. Um there is some reference in 00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:04.376 the plan for the resource recycling 00:58:04.400 --> 00:58:07.400 center and and that essentially um 00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:12.456 being um 00:58:12.480 --> 00:58:14.775 removed in in in the future. I think it 00:58:14.799 --> 00:58:16.936 said 2050. 00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:18.616 Is that the plan or is there any 00:58:18.640 --> 00:58:20.616 advocacy we can make to keep that 00:58:20.640 --> 00:58:23.640 resource recycling center? 00:58:25.680 --> 00:58:27.335 Thank you, Mayor. Um, we're currently 00:58:27.359 --> 00:58:29.095 gathering data to better understand how 00:58:29.119 --> 00:58:30.936 a community uses the resource recovery 00:58:30.960 --> 00:58:33.176 center. Once we do this, we can plan our 00:58:33.200 --> 00:58:35.016 best to provide the services considering 00:58:35.040 --> 00:58:38.040 the fact that the state has um signal to 00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:41.176 us that they plan to reclaim that site 00:58:41.200 --> 00:58:44.200 um by 2045. um officers are currently um 00:58:45.040 --> 00:58:47.976 in discussions with um officers from 00:58:48.000 --> 00:58:50.295 the state and we've made it clear that 00:58:50.319 --> 00:58:53.319 um that site is a um a well- reggarded 00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:56.216 um site which the community currently 00:58:56.240 --> 00:58:58.616 has a need for. Um so that's something 00:58:58.640 --> 00:59:01.575 we'll be further discussing um with with 00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:04.599 councils and the and the state. 00:59:04.960 --> 00:59:07.736 Thank you, Simon. And um I'll make this 00:59:07.760 --> 00:59:09.496 my last one. What is the cost of 00:59:09.520 --> 00:59:12.520 replacing the bins with red lids? 00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:14.856 I I see in the plan that as part of the 00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:16.616 strategy we need to replace all the 00:59:16.640 --> 00:59:19.016 green waste bins with the red lid 00:59:19.040 --> 00:59:21.176 ones for uniformity. 00:59:21.200 --> 00:59:23.256 Um where did that idea come from and 00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:26.280 what is the cost 00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:27.976 through you may the approximate cost 00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:30.696 will be $2 million. Um that includes 00:59:30.720 --> 00:59:33.095 replacing the green lids on general 00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:35.815 waste bins with red lids and replacing 00:59:35.839 --> 00:59:38.616 all burgundy bins with green bodies and 00:59:38.640 --> 00:59:41.640 red lids. We're doing this because we 00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:44.055 have to comply with the um circular 00:59:44.079 --> 00:59:46.376 economy act um and the current draft 00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:47.815 service standards from the state. So 00:59:47.839 --> 00:59:50.136 it's um a requirement for council from 00:59:50.160 --> 00:59:52.136 the state that we have this done by 00:59:52.160 --> 00:59:55.160 2027. 00:59:55.520 --> 00:59:57.575 Thank you. That's it. That's it for me, 00:59:57.599 --> 00:59:59.736 Simon. Appreciate everyone's time and 00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:02.136 your work on the strategy too. 01:00:02.160 --> 01:00:05.160 Thank you councelor Jay. Any further 01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:08.440 questions? Councelor Thomann. 01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:12.280 Yes, I've got a question. is that um 01:00:12.720 --> 01:00:15.496 people living in apartments or you know 01:00:15.520 --> 01:00:18.520 multiple residences sometimes they've 01:00:18.640 --> 01:00:21.640 got too many of one kind of bin and need 01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:24.760 another bin and so is it possible like I 01:00:25.040 --> 01:00:27.736 know that someone was trying to change 01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:30.696 is it possible to be um you know to to 01:00:30.720 --> 01:00:33.720 look at the needs of of units or you 01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:37.000 know apartment blocks so we we can be 01:00:37.040 --> 01:00:39.416 more responsive when it comes to you 01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:41.176 know if someone wants another red bin 01:00:41.200 --> 01:00:43.896 instead of a yellow bean or is it 01:00:43.920 --> 01:00:45.896 something that can be looked at and 01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:48.216 considered so we so there's less red 01:00:48.240 --> 01:00:50.216 tape and we can be a little bit more 01:00:50.240 --> 01:00:53.240 flexible 01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:55.656 through May um thanks for the question 01:00:55.680 --> 01:00:57.416 yeah that u currently an operational 01:00:57.440 --> 01:00:59.176 issue where our team regularly has 01:00:59.200 --> 01:01:02.200 discussions um with building managers 01:01:02.880 --> 01:01:05.416 and um residents that live in apartment 01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:07.016 blocks so we are flexible around the 01:01:07.040 --> 01:01:10.040 number of bins that they have um and 01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:12.535 are willing to look at um any changes 01:01:12.559 --> 01:01:15.559 within reason. 01:01:16.319 --> 01:01:19.319 Councelor Jay, another question. 01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:27.480 councelor Jay, you're on mute. 01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:32.599 There you go. Um I did see reference to 01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:35.256 education and also hiring a litter 01:01:35.280 --> 01:01:38.055 enforcer. Um the community is very 01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:40.136 curious at what the role of a lit litter 01:01:40.160 --> 01:01:42.456 enforcer is and what what what they what 01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:45.480 their role will be 01:01:46.160 --> 01:01:48.376 through you may um the litter 01:01:48.400 --> 01:01:50.456 enforcement officers are given authority 01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:52.295 under the environmental protection act 01:01:52.319 --> 01:01:54.936 EPA to investigate dangerous types of 01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:56.936 litter. This includes investigating dump 01:01:56.960 --> 01:01:59.960 rubbish cigarette literex and 01:02:00.319 --> 01:02:02.936 e-waste. Importantly, litter enforcement 01:02:02.960 --> 01:02:04.055 officers have the authority to 01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:05.815 investigate things like oil solvent 01:02:05.839 --> 01:02:07.496 dumped in the bay and our storm water 01:02:07.520 --> 01:02:10.520 drains. Um, but they don't only enforce 01:02:11.200 --> 01:02:13.575 EPA, they also provide key education to 01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:15.095 businesses and industry as well as 01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:17.256 residents. Right now, if the community 01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:19.416 reports dangerous dumped rubbish to us, 01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:21.176 we mostly have to then refer it off to 01:02:21.200 --> 01:02:23.736 the EPA to do something about it. By 01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:25.575 having our own council litter 01:02:25.599 --> 01:02:27.815 enforcement officer, we'll be able to 01:02:27.839 --> 01:02:29.256 better respond and deal with these 01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:31.575 issues um and provide better service to 01:02:31.599 --> 01:02:34.295 our community. 01:02:34.319 --> 01:02:36.055 Thank you. Thank you, Simon. 01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:38.295 Thank you, Councelor Jay. Council me a 01:02:38.319 --> 01:02:39.095 question. 01:02:39.119 --> 01:02:41.416 Thank you, Mayor. my question in 01:02:41.440 --> 01:02:43.815 relation to specifically the 01:02:43.839 --> 01:02:46.839 high-rise towers or high residential 01:02:48.480 --> 01:02:51.480 buildings. Um, has the council or the 01:02:52.640 --> 01:02:55.640 council officers adopted a policy to 01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:58.920 direct their information flow into the 01:03:00.640 --> 01:03:03.095 either the owners corporation chairman 01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:06.119 or building manager with the intent of 01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:08.216 advising 01:03:08.240 --> 01:03:11.240 the availability to those buildings 01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:14.055 of a hard waste collection how many per 01:03:14.079 --> 01:03:16.936 year and how it should be managed. I'm 01:03:16.960 --> 01:03:19.960 aware that on many occasions in that 01:03:20.960 --> 01:03:23.176 Silda precinct 01:03:23.200 --> 01:03:26.200 renters will move out and they'll 01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:28.376 leave all their junk wherever they'd 01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:31.400 like to and there's no compliance to 01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:34.616 what would be efficient service offered 01:03:34.640 --> 01:03:37.640 by council. So have you adopted or what 01:03:38.160 --> 01:03:40.295 what process have you adopted to engage 01:03:40.319 --> 01:03:43.319 with those people who can best influence 01:03:44.160 --> 01:03:46.295 the residents in what they do with their 01:03:46.319 --> 01:03:49.319 hard beast? 01:03:49.680 --> 01:03:51.015 Um thank you for the question and 01:03:51.039 --> 01:03:53.335 through you may um that's part of the 01:03:53.359 --> 01:03:54.616 process that we're going through right 01:03:54.640 --> 01:03:57.640 now. We do have a team who um engages 01:03:58.720 --> 01:04:01.720 with the highrises but they mostly 01:04:01.839 --> 01:04:04.839 engage them on a reactive basis. One of 01:04:05.599 --> 01:04:07.176 the processes we're going through at the 01:04:07.200 --> 01:04:09.736 moment is working out how best to engage 01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:11.496 with them. And that's part of the bigger 01:04:11.520 --> 01:04:13.335 program that we're looking at because we 01:04:13.359 --> 01:04:16.295 don't want to just start haphazardly 01:04:16.319 --> 01:04:18.295 engaging with those big buildings. We 01:04:18.319 --> 01:04:19.496 even though it takes a little bit 01:04:19.520 --> 01:04:22.520 longer, we want to put a policy in place 01:04:22.799 --> 01:04:25.416 that allows us hopefully not extra red 01:04:25.440 --> 01:04:28.376 tape, but to provide that service more 01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:31.176 equitably. So, you know, someone's not 01:04:31.200 --> 01:04:32.456 just hearing, oh, that apartment 01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:33.815 building over there got that. Why don't 01:04:33.839 --> 01:04:36.055 we get that same service? And that's 01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:38.936 part of what we're hoping to start doing 01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:41.960 really soon. 01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:44.775 Thank you. Any further questions? 01:04:44.799 --> 01:04:47.496 Councelor Buckingham, 01:04:47.520 --> 01:04:50.216 I know that there's been an increase in 01:04:50.240 --> 01:04:53.240 fires caused by hazardous items 01:04:53.520 --> 01:04:55.896 entering the waste system. How does the 01:04:55.920 --> 01:04:58.920 strategy work to prevent hazardous items 01:04:59.520 --> 01:05:02.520 going into the waste and prevent fires? 01:05:04.160 --> 01:05:05.575 Thank you for the question through you 01:05:05.599 --> 01:05:08.599 may um we the strategy has several 01:05:09.359 --> 01:05:11.335 components in there to look at how we 01:05:11.359 --> 01:05:13.575 both better educate the community 01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:15.896 because we find often people don't 01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:18.535 realize genuinely even now people don't 01:05:18.559 --> 01:05:21.095 realize what counts as a as a dangerous 01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:23.815 flammable good. Vapes is our most common 01:05:23.839 --> 01:05:26.696 example but many other things around 01:05:26.720 --> 01:05:29.335 lights and and that sort of stuff come 01:05:29.359 --> 01:05:31.815 up a lot. So part of it is educational 01:05:31.839 --> 01:05:33.656 but then the other part is we are trying 01:05:33.680 --> 01:05:36.680 to work out the best way to provide 01:05:36.720 --> 01:05:38.376 alternative 01:05:38.400 --> 01:05:41.400 um alternative disposal arrangements. 01:05:43.039 --> 01:05:46.039 Any further questions? 01:05:47.359 --> 01:05:49.736 Going once, going twice. We're all 01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:52.216 questioned out. Thank you to both 01:05:52.240 --> 01:05:53.496 Simon and Stephanie for your 01:05:53.520 --> 01:05:55.015 comprehensive answers to those 01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:56.616 questions. 01:05:56.640 --> 01:05:59.496 We have a recommendation before us. Is a 01:05:59.520 --> 01:06:00.856 councelor that would like to move that 01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:02.376 recommendation or or those 01:06:02.400 --> 01:06:05.400 recommendations or something different? 01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:09.400 councelor Hardy move. Councelor 01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:12.760 Crawford seconded. Councelor Hardy, 01:06:13.680 --> 01:06:16.680 please open the debate. 01:06:21.680 --> 01:06:24.680 Councelor Hut. Yeah. I certainly regard 01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:26.775 it as an excellent report with um 01:06:26.799 --> 01:06:28.696 excellent recommendations and I put it 01:06:28.720 --> 01:06:31.720 to the floor. 01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:34.760 Councelor Crawford as second. 01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:38.376 It's an evergoing 01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:41.400 or ongoing challenge problem opportunity 01:06:41.520 --> 01:06:44.520 um the waste strategy for our 01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:49.000 community. Um obviously a lot of it 01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:51.656 relies on behavior change and so I'm 01:06:51.680 --> 01:06:53.176 really excited with some of the programs 01:06:53.200 --> 01:06:54.856 that we are looking to you know 01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:57.880 investigate and educate. Um 01:06:59.039 --> 01:07:02.039 we are running out of landfill and we do 01:07:02.240 --> 01:07:05.095 need to do better in our reuse recycle 01:07:05.119 --> 01:07:07.575 um strategy. So a lot of the things here 01:07:07.599 --> 01:07:10.216 are really about the community stepping 01:07:10.240 --> 01:07:12.456 up. It's not just council putting out a 01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:14.136 strategy and enforcing. It really is 01:07:14.160 --> 01:07:16.216 about a collective knowing that this is 01:07:16.240 --> 01:07:17.976 better for our environment, our 01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.295 community and h and what is the part 01:07:20.319 --> 01:07:23.319 that we can play in this particular um 01:07:23.760 --> 01:07:26.456 area. I was just saying I found some 01:07:26.480 --> 01:07:29.480 rather unpleasant things in my green bin 01:07:30.079 --> 01:07:32.775 today. Um living in a block of flats um 01:07:32.799 --> 01:07:35.736 I often find plastic bags and non green 01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:38.760 bin stuff in my um in my block of flats. 01:07:39.359 --> 01:07:42.055 So I do think that there is 01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:44.055 a long way to go in our municipality 01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:46.616 around contamination and around how we 01:07:46.640 --> 01:07:49.640 um are better at being considerate of 01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:51.656 the community at large. So um yeah, 01:07:51.680 --> 01:07:53.256 thank you to the officers. It's a very 01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:54.535 comprehensive report. I look forward to 01:07:54.559 --> 01:07:56.456 some of the more specifics that come out 01:07:56.480 --> 01:07:59.480 of it and I'm happy to support this. 01:08:00.240 --> 01:08:02.535 before we move on to further speakers 01:08:02.559 --> 01:08:04.616 for are there any speakers against the 01:08:04.640 --> 01:08:07.176 recommendation before us? 01:08:07.200 --> 01:08:09.656 If not, councelor J. , would you like 01:08:09.680 --> 01:08:11.896 to speak to the motion? My apologies for 01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:14.295 missing your hand before. 01:08:14.319 --> 01:08:17.096 No, no, that's fine. Um, 01:08:17.120 --> 01:08:19.496 I'm I'm hidden away on the monitor. I 01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:22.520 don't blame you. Um, I'm full support of 01:08:22.560 --> 01:08:24.616 this strategy. We've got legislated 01:08:24.640 --> 01:08:27.640 changes coming um to our rubbish and and 01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:30.135 the cost and the way we handle it. And 01:08:30.159 --> 01:08:32.056 this is a direct response to the 01:08:32.080 --> 01:08:34.215 legislation that's coming for us whether 01:08:34.239 --> 01:08:36.536 we like it or not. The City of Port 01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:38.536 Phillips got um one of the worst 01:08:38.560 --> 01:08:41.016 diversion rates of rubbish, 30%, and we 01:08:41.040 --> 01:08:43.815 want to get to about 70. What diversion 01:08:43.839 --> 01:08:45.655 rate means is we're not putting the 01:08:45.679 --> 01:08:47.815 right rubbish in the right bins. So, 01:08:47.839 --> 01:08:50.376 we've got bins going out filled with 01:08:50.400 --> 01:08:52.056 things that could have gone to recycling 01:08:52.080 --> 01:08:54.056 and could have gone to the organic foggo 01:08:54.080 --> 01:08:56.536 or could have even gone to um the 01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:59.496 existing hubs with the glass. Glass in 01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:02.215 future if put in the recycling bin will 01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:04.936 be considered a contaminant. So um the 01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:06.936 government is very serious going forward 01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:09.960 about the the channels and and and the 01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:13.000 cost involved. Um our land fee fee levy 01:09:13.679 --> 01:09:16.679 has gone up 158% since 21 and I can 01:09:18.560 --> 01:09:21.560 only imagine um that it will go up even 01:09:22.480 --> 01:09:24.536 more. So, I completely support this 01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:27.560 strategy um and encourage all our 01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:30.600 residents to, you know, start paying um 01:09:31.279 --> 01:09:32.936 attention to what they're putting in in 01:09:32.960 --> 01:09:35.735 in what bin and be prepared for when the 01:09:35.759 --> 01:09:38.759 time does come and we need to um reduce 01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:41.096 some of the pickups. At least they know 01:09:41.120 --> 01:09:43.016 that our diversion rate will be at its 01:09:43.040 --> 01:09:45.335 highest and its finest. So, um good 01:09:45.359 --> 01:09:47.175 luck. Thank you. 01:09:47.199 --> 01:09:49.496 Thank you, Councelor Jay. Would any 01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:51.976 other councilors like to speak in 01:09:52.000 --> 01:09:53.896 support of the recommendation before us? 01:09:53.920 --> 01:09:56.296 Councelor Tamaran be very briefly say 01:09:56.320 --> 01:09:57.736 it's great to have strategies but the 01:09:57.760 --> 01:10:00.056 end it's the implementation and 01:10:00.080 --> 01:10:02.456 education as was raised by other 01:10:02.480 --> 01:10:04.776 councils. So hopefully we will find 01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:07.800 innov innovative ways to engage in a fun 01:10:09.120 --> 01:10:12.120 way so we can improve our rights of 01:10:13.600 --> 01:10:16.600 recycling and other. So um I looking 01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:19.256 forward to the material that will come 01:10:19.280 --> 01:10:22.280 out of this strategy to encourage 01:10:24.159 --> 01:10:27.159 better behavior of everyone in our City. 01:10:29.280 --> 01:10:31.256 Thank you councelor Timman. Any other 01:10:31.280 --> 01:10:33.896 councilors wish to speak to the motion 01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:36.920 before us? 01:10:39.360 --> 01:10:41.416 No other counselors wish to speak. In 01:10:41.440 --> 01:10:43.576 which case, would the mover like to 01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:45.496 close the motion? 01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:47.256 We were told in a previous meeting that 01:10:47.280 --> 01:10:49.976 it costs the council some $800,000 to 01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:53.000 deal with contaminated matter in u in 01:10:53.120 --> 01:10:55.016 the bins. I just hope this strategy 01:10:55.040 --> 01:10:57.976 begins to drop that figure for us and 01:10:58.000 --> 01:11:01.000 all the other rate payers in the City. 01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:03.896 Debate has now closed. So, I will now 01:11:03.920 --> 01:11:06.920 put that motion to a vote. Show of hands 01:11:07.199 --> 01:11:10.199 in support. 01:11:10.400 --> 01:11:12.536 I do not see any opposition. So that 01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:15.560 motion is carried unanimously. 01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:18.616 Thank you. Thank you once again to our 01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:21.336 officer. 01:11:21.360 --> 01:11:23.655 I might suggest we take a 5m minute 01:11:23.679 --> 01:11:26.616 break at this point before we move on to 01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:29.496 the remainder of our reports. 5 minutes 01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:31.096 typically means 10 minutes. So we'll 01:11:31.120 --> 01:11:34.120 come back at 7:53 01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:37.640 p.m. 01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:41.000 And thank you. We are back in session. 01:11:41.440 --> 01:11:44.440 We are now on to item 12.1, the council 01:11:45.600 --> 01:11:48.600 committee framework and committee model. 01:11:48.880 --> 01:11:51.496 Any questions for officers this evening 01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:54.520 in relation to this item? 01:11:55.040 --> 01:11:58.040 yes, councelor MI deputy may 01:11:59.040 --> 01:12:02.040 thank you mayor. My question is in 01:12:02.480 --> 01:12:05.336 relation to costs there there are a 01:12:05.360 --> 01:12:07.736 couple of options here and I wanted to 01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:10.760 understand better um the costs in 01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:15.000 relation to let's call it thematic or 01:12:15.280 --> 01:12:17.576 status quo if we could have an 01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:20.456 understanding of those costs. 01:12:20.480 --> 01:12:21.096 Thank you. 01:12:21.120 --> 01:12:22.776 And that will be answered by Mitch 01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:25.175 Gillette coordinator oh sorry for James 01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:27.576 Gullin manager of governance and 01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:30.376 advocacy. thank you mayor and um and 01:12:30.400 --> 01:12:33.256 through you. on page six of the 01:12:33.280 --> 01:12:36.215 comparative analysis attachment um there 01:12:36.239 --> 01:12:38.296 is a breakdown of the comparative 01:12:38.320 --> 01:12:41.320 costings of both committees. Um in short 01:12:42.480 --> 01:12:44.456 we've broken it down in terms of 01:12:44.480 --> 01:12:46.296 establishment of each committee. So if 01:12:46.320 --> 01:12:48.296 we were to retain the status quo the 01:12:48.320 --> 01:12:51.320 costs of reestablishing those committees 01:12:51.440 --> 01:12:54.440 would be um a lot less than moving to a 01:12:54.480 --> 01:12:56.695 thematic committee model. um working 01:12:56.719 --> 01:12:59.719 with officers. Our estimates for a um 01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:01.896 community cohort driven committee, so 01:13:01.920 --> 01:13:04.920 the reestablishment um would be around 01:13:05.120 --> 01:13:08.120 167 officer hours at a cost um at a 01:13:09.040 --> 01:13:12.040 banded level that we averaged um using 01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:15.640 the VPS metrics of around $9,300. 01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:18.695 So that that considers um review of 01:13:18.719 --> 01:13:20.936 terms of reference, looking at the 01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:23.416 committee framework refinement, um 01:13:23.440 --> 01:13:24.776 supporting the transition of 01:13:24.800 --> 01:13:26.695 responsibility of advisory committees, 01:13:26.719 --> 01:13:28.536 recruitment and selection which is the 01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:31.256 the largest part um cultural safety 01:13:31.280 --> 01:13:34.280 training um if if required. Um then we 01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:37.416 looked at annualized cost over over the 01:13:37.440 --> 01:13:39.096 year of running the two different 01:13:39.120 --> 01:13:42.120 models. we looked at how long each 01:13:42.320 --> 01:13:44.135 how many hours an officer would take to 01:13:44.159 --> 01:13:46.456 administrate each meeting. So we we 01:13:46.480 --> 01:13:48.616 estimated around 7 hours for each 01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:51.016 meeting in the preparation of agendas, 01:13:51.040 --> 01:13:52.936 all the administrative and kind of 01:13:52.960 --> 01:13:55.576 follow-ups including um minutes and 01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:57.336 distribution. We looked at eight 01:13:57.360 --> 01:14:00.360 meetings a year for option one which um 01:14:00.400 --> 01:14:03.175 has a proposed five committees. that 01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:06.199 equated to 304 officer hours a year at 01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:07.816 $17,000. 01:14:07.840 --> 01:14:10.056 For option two, which has four advisory 01:14:10.080 --> 01:14:13.016 committees, that equated to 243 01:14:13.040 --> 01:14:16.040 officer hours at $13,000. So the annual 01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:19.159 operating costs were about $4,000 01:14:20.239 --> 01:14:23.175 lower for the thematic committee than 01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:26.199 the existing cohort committees. Um so 01:14:26.640 --> 01:14:29.640 when you um unpack that a 2026 01:14:30.080 --> 01:14:32.695 establishment cost by calendar year 01:14:32.719 --> 01:14:35.496 that is the setup um the establishment 01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:38.456 and the operation for um a cohort or 01:14:38.480 --> 01:14:41.480 option one would be 26,000. for model 01:14:41.679 --> 01:14:43.336 2 the thematic committee would be 01:14:43.360 --> 01:14:44.856 38,000. 01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:47.016 now we looked at that over the rest 01:14:47.040 --> 01:14:49.175 of the council term. So you can see over 01:14:49.199 --> 01:14:52.135 time that that gap would shrink. Um so 01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:54.456 by the end of 2028 01:14:54.480 --> 01:14:57.480 um the cost of the um cohort. So option 01:14:57.679 --> 01:14:59.816 one would be 60,000 total including 01:14:59.840 --> 01:15:02.776 reestablishment and administration 01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:05.800 verse the thematic committee being 01:15:05.840 --> 01:15:07.336 $65,000. 01:15:07.360 --> 01:15:09.496 So around $5,000 01:15:09.520 --> 01:15:12.296 more expensive over the the period of um 01:15:12.320 --> 01:15:14.695 the next 3 years that would be subject 01:15:14.719 --> 01:15:17.655 to the options that are being presented. 01:15:17.679 --> 01:15:20.679 So there's five committees under option 01:15:21.040 --> 01:15:22.856 one and four committees under option 01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:25.256 two. In terms of the administration of 01:15:25.280 --> 01:15:27.336 either committee 01:15:27.360 --> 01:15:29.256 in their individuality, it's about the 01:15:29.280 --> 01:15:31.256 same. 01:15:31.280 --> 01:15:32.936 Thank you. And I should refer to you as 01:15:32.960 --> 01:15:34.776 a head of governance and advocacy. 01:15:34.800 --> 01:15:35.655 Manager. 01:15:35.679 --> 01:15:37.496 Brilliantly answered. Any further 01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:40.376 questions? 01:15:40.400 --> 01:15:42.936 yes, councelor Buckingham. 01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:45.960 Through you, Mayor. Could 01:15:46.320 --> 01:15:49.320 we please better understand how the 01:15:50.480 --> 01:15:53.480 new council committee framework was 01:15:53.679 --> 01:15:56.135 tested and what kind of consultation 01:15:56.159 --> 01:15:58.056 process went into this review with 01:15:58.080 --> 01:16:01.080 community members and participants of 01:16:01.120 --> 01:16:04.056 the former committees. 01:16:04.080 --> 01:16:06.215 Thank you, Mitch Gillette, coordinator 01:16:06.239 --> 01:16:09.239 of council and executive support. 01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:10.856 through your mayor and thank you for 01:16:10.880 --> 01:16:13.736 the question, councelor Buckingham. Um 01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:16.215 officers engaged with our former 01:16:16.239 --> 01:16:18.456 advisory committee members for 01:16:18.480 --> 01:16:20.856 preliminary feedback to inform the 01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:22.936 development of the council committee 01:16:22.960 --> 01:16:25.960 framework. um council officers who are 01:16:26.080 --> 01:16:28.296 also invol involved in the 01:16:28.320 --> 01:16:29.976 secretariat responsibilities of the 01:16:30.000 --> 01:16:32.776 committees were also engaged to 01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:35.800 provide feedback on the framework and 01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:39.256 the proposed committee models. Um and 01:16:39.280 --> 01:16:41.736 then all former committee members were 01:16:41.760 --> 01:16:44.616 notified um that the council committee 01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:47.576 framework and the proposed models 01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:50.600 were coming to the meeting tonight. 01:16:51.280 --> 01:16:51.496 Thank 01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:54.520 you. Any further questions? 01:16:58.239 --> 01:17:00.296 No further questions. All right. In 01:17:00.320 --> 01:17:03.016 which case, we have a recommendation 01:17:03.040 --> 01:17:05.096 before us. Is there someone that wishes 01:17:05.120 --> 01:17:07.896 to move the recommendation or something 01:17:07.920 --> 01:17:10.695 different? 01:17:10.719 --> 01:17:13.175 , 01:17:13.199 --> 01:17:15.096 sorry. Is this a question, Councelor 01:17:15.120 --> 01:17:17.016 Jay? 01:17:17.040 --> 01:17:20.040 No. I would um I would like to um move 01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:23.880 option one with an amendment if I may. 01:17:24.480 --> 01:17:27.480 a so councelor J a mover cannot 01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:30.616 propose a mover of a substantive motion 01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:33.096 cannot pass an amendment. So 01:17:33.120 --> 01:17:34.056 she's 01:17:34.080 --> 01:17:36.616 she can 01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:39.336 pass whatever she wants but she can move 01:17:39.360 --> 01:17:42.360 but not as an amendment 01:17:42.400 --> 01:17:43.096 to the officer. 01:17:43.120 --> 01:17:45.816 Okay. All right. So in which case 01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:48.840 councelor Jay you wish to move the item 01:17:49.360 --> 01:17:52.360 before us with item so section 3.5 in 01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:55.496 relation to 01:17:55.520 --> 01:17:57.336 option one. 01:17:57.360 --> 01:17:57.896 Yep. 01:17:57.920 --> 01:18:00.135 Yep. 01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:02.456 I would like to move section 3.5 in 01:18:02.480 --> 01:18:04.215 relation to option one and then I would 01:18:04.239 --> 01:18:06.856 like if I may make an amendment or 01:18:06.880 --> 01:18:09.880 suggest an amendment. 01:18:10.560 --> 01:18:13.256 So then as the mover of the 01:18:13.280 --> 01:18:16.280 originating motion then you can add to 01:18:17.280 --> 01:18:19.175 that substantive motion. You can add to 01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:21.416 the motion that's before the council. 01:18:21.440 --> 01:18:24.135 So what would you like to add to that 01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:27.096 motion? You will need to read it out. 01:18:27.120 --> 01:18:29.096 Thank you mayor. If you just give me a 01:18:29.120 --> 01:18:32.120 little bit to find this um information. 01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:37.175 So, 01:18:37.199 --> 01:18:39.655 um I think James will put it on the 01:18:39.679 --> 01:18:42.679 screen. Um I would like to 01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:46.520 add to option one. The council endorses 01:18:47.600 --> 01:18:49.496 the establishment of a disability 01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:52.520 advisory committee and directs the staff 01:18:52.800 --> 01:18:55.655 to undertake a review in the development 01:18:55.679 --> 01:18:58.135 of a community safety committee 01:18:58.159 --> 01:19:00.856 including mandate membership alignment 01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:03.256 with concurrent community safety work 01:19:03.280 --> 01:19:05.976 and resource implications and report 01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:08.296 back to council in the first quarter of 01:19:08.320 --> 01:19:11.320 2026. 01:19:13.120 --> 01:19:16.120 that. Thank you for reading that item. 01:19:16.960 --> 01:19:19.896 Is there a seconder to the item that is 01:19:19.920 --> 01:19:22.920 before us? 01:19:24.480 --> 01:19:27.480 A second for the item before us. Going 01:19:27.600 --> 01:19:30.600 once, going twice. 01:19:31.040 --> 01:19:33.096 There appears to be no second to that 01:19:33.120 --> 01:19:35.416 item. As per governance rules, that 01:19:35.440 --> 01:19:38.440 item now lapses and we return back to 01:19:38.719 --> 01:19:41.336 the office of recommendations default. 01:19:41.360 --> 01:19:44.360 Is there a mover of the recommendation 01:19:45.040 --> 01:19:47.816 before us clarifying of course item 3.5? 01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:50.456 Councelor Crawford, 01:19:50.480 --> 01:19:52.215 I'll move option one. 01:19:52.239 --> 01:19:55.239 Yeah. So, 3.5 for option one and 01:19:55.520 --> 01:19:57.175 councelor Thomann, I did see your hand 01:19:57.199 --> 01:20:00.199 there as a seconder. 01:20:00.320 --> 01:20:03.175 Councelor Crawford, the floor is yours 01:20:03.199 --> 01:20:05.976 as a mover. 01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:07.736 We've done a lot of talking and a lot of 01:20:07.760 --> 01:20:09.576 thinking around this about the options 01:20:09.600 --> 01:20:12.600 of of a different type of advisory um 01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:15.896 committee. 01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:18.456 I would like to 01:20:18.480 --> 01:20:20.616 stay with the ones that we have. 01:20:20.640 --> 01:20:22.056 However, that doesn't mean that we can 01:20:22.080 --> 01:20:23.256 they don't have to they can be 01:20:23.280 --> 01:20:26.135 reconstituted in less meetings look at 01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:28.536 innovative models for those committees. 01:20:28.560 --> 01:20:31.016 But my concern is that those committees 01:20:31.040 --> 01:20:32.456 have been constituted to reach out to 01:20:32.480 --> 01:20:34.536 the people we don't always hear from or 01:20:34.560 --> 01:20:36.616 don't always find it easy to get 01:20:36.640 --> 01:20:39.336 involved in in surveys or or council 01:20:39.360 --> 01:20:41.256 business. And this is a group of the 01:20:41.280 --> 01:20:42.536 community that are very important to 01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:44.536 hear from as we consider our various 01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:46.936 strategies and um decisions that we 01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:48.776 make. So I would urge my fellow 01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:50.695 counselors to support this. It doesn't 01:20:50.719 --> 01:20:52.616 mean we're stuck in exactly as it looks 01:20:52.640 --> 01:20:54.296 now. It just means we continue with 01:20:54.320 --> 01:20:55.976 looking and making sure that we hear 01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:58.056 from these particular parts or sections 01:20:58.080 --> 01:21:00.695 of our community. Um noting that we are 01:21:00.719 --> 01:21:03.096 looking to create a disability committee 01:21:03.120 --> 01:21:05.496 for with people with disabilities. Um 01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:07.496 but I think we can be innovative in it. 01:21:07.520 --> 01:21:09.736 Um maybe they only meet three times a 01:21:09.760 --> 01:21:11.655 year around a forum like it doesn't have 01:21:11.679 --> 01:21:14.616 to look a set way. and we look to 01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:16.695 improve that in terms of efficiency in 01:21:16.719 --> 01:21:18.456 terms of what questions we bring to 01:21:18.480 --> 01:21:21.480 them. But I do think going to the theme 01:21:22.320 --> 01:21:24.776 we would find the people who are gather 01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:27.655 around those themes are very passionate 01:21:27.679 --> 01:21:29.416 find their way to council anyway. 01:21:29.440 --> 01:21:30.616 They're the people we probably would 01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:32.695 hear from mostly already and I just want 01:21:32.719 --> 01:21:34.135 to make sure that we're hearing from a 01:21:34.159 --> 01:21:36.456 broader set of the community. Noting as 01:21:36.480 --> 01:21:38.616 well we have upped our engagement 01:21:38.640 --> 01:21:41.175 process and our outreach on every 01:21:41.199 --> 01:21:43.096 subject. So we are investing more in 01:21:43.120 --> 01:21:46.120 that in a in a day-to-day um model. So 01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:48.215 councils I urge you to support this um 01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:49.655 this option one. 01:21:49.679 --> 01:21:51.256 Thank you councelor Crawford. The mover 01:21:51.280 --> 01:21:53.496 has spoken. So now I move to the second 01:21:53.520 --> 01:21:55.576 councelor Thomann. 01:21:55.600 --> 01:21:58.296 So the the purpose of the committees is 01:21:58.320 --> 01:22:01.096 to u 01:22:01.120 --> 01:22:04.120 make better decision as a council 01:22:04.320 --> 01:22:07.320 and I think what we had and what I'm 01:22:08.639 --> 01:22:11.639 suggesting we keep is that to to engage 01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:14.760 with people who are not always heard 01:22:16.000 --> 01:22:19.000 or don't always find a way to get to us. 01:22:19.280 --> 01:22:21.336 people who are not always as loud as 01:22:21.360 --> 01:22:24.296 some. So I think um it's important that 01:22:24.320 --> 01:22:27.320 we keep the committees we've got and 01:22:27.360 --> 01:22:30.360 certainly I'm on a couple of them. Um 01:22:30.639 --> 01:22:33.639 but in particular I think the work that 01:22:33.920 --> 01:22:36.215 OPAC are doing I think it's quite you 01:22:36.239 --> 01:22:38.296 know is quite extraordinary the passion 01:22:38.320 --> 01:22:40.536 the times they spend and and I think 01:22:40.560 --> 01:22:43.560 it's it's important that we keep them um 01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:48.520 alert and and we listen to their 01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:52.695 advice you know to with an angle you 01:22:52.719 --> 01:22:55.719 know this their specific angle for us 01:22:55.760 --> 01:22:58.056 to make better decisions. and when it 01:22:58.080 --> 01:23:01.080 comes to we're doing a few reviews on 01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:04.056 cultural economic development, 01:23:04.080 --> 01:23:06.296 multiculturalism. So we we are actually 01:23:06.320 --> 01:23:09.096 doing we're about to engage in big 01:23:09.120 --> 01:23:11.896 strategies and potentially and obviously 01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:13.496 we've got you know obviously the all the 01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:16.520 safety issues and I think if we need 01:23:17.199 --> 01:23:20.199 to have a themed committees as a as a 01:23:20.320 --> 01:23:22.056 follow-up of the strategies that we're 01:23:22.080 --> 01:23:24.135 developing on those topics that are 01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:26.135 important to our community I think we 01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:29.159 can always in the future develop 01:23:29.199 --> 01:23:32.199 themes um working groups whichever we 01:23:33.360 --> 01:23:36.056 want to call it. So I think it's it 01:23:36.080 --> 01:23:37.496 wish it's something we you know we've 01:23:37.520 --> 01:23:39.496 been spending a lot of time on this 01:23:39.520 --> 01:23:42.520 topic. Um but we I don't think we can 01:23:42.880 --> 01:23:45.096 like know at the end do kind of take 01:23:45.120 --> 01:23:47.256 decisions on the run. I think it has 01:23:47.280 --> 01:23:49.096 to be it's important and we need to 01:23:49.120 --> 01:23:51.816 spend you know more thinking about it 01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:53.976 before making a final decision and I you 01:23:54.000 --> 01:23:56.135 know I thank all the members of the 01:23:56.159 --> 01:23:58.936 committee who are currently in was way 01:23:58.960 --> 01:24:01.816 in the committees and I encourage new 01:24:01.840 --> 01:24:04.056 people to come up when we reform the 01:24:04.080 --> 01:24:06.695 committees I think it's you know as I 01:24:06.719 --> 01:24:08.615 said it's valuable advice seen through 01:24:08.639 --> 01:24:11.639 an eye that we 01:24:11.840 --> 01:24:14.840 different eye from our eyes or whatever 01:24:15.040 --> 01:24:17.736 and I I think it's great engagement with 01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:20.760 our committee and I recommend this 01:24:21.280 --> 01:24:22.615 option one. 01:24:22.639 --> 01:24:25.416 Thank you councelor Timman. Is there any 01:24:25.440 --> 01:24:27.016 opposition or anyone that wishes to 01:24:27.040 --> 01:24:30.040 speak against this motion? 01:24:31.360 --> 01:24:34.360 councelor Jay is this against? 01:24:34.960 --> 01:24:37.175 Thank you councelor J. 01:24:37.199 --> 01:24:39.175 Um yes I would like to speak against 01:24:39.199 --> 01:24:41.976 this motion. Um I just want to read the 01:24:42.000 --> 01:24:43.655 purpose of the committees which is 01:24:43.679 --> 01:24:45.736 purpose 1.1. 01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:47.576 City of Port Phillip is reviewing its 01:24:47.600 --> 01:24:49.736 advisory committee model to ensure it 01:24:49.760 --> 01:24:51.416 continues to support inclusive 01:24:51.440 --> 01:24:54.135 engagement, good governance, and an 01:24:54.159 --> 01:24:56.376 alignment with council strategic 01:24:56.400 --> 01:24:57.976 priorities. 01:24:58.000 --> 01:25:00.056 With a new council term and plan in 01:25:00.080 --> 01:25:02.135 place, this review explores how 01:25:02.159 --> 01:25:04.456 committees operate, introduced a new 01:25:04.480 --> 01:25:06.296 committee framework, and compares the 01:25:06.320 --> 01:25:08.856 two models to guide future engagement 01:25:08.880 --> 01:25:11.655 and counselor consideration. As much as 01:25:11.679 --> 01:25:14.056 the groups are there to give voice to 01:25:14.080 --> 01:25:16.376 diverse and minor 01:25:16.400 --> 01:25:19.400 residents that may not be heard, 01:25:19.600 --> 01:25:21.496 the groups are also there to support 01:25:21.520 --> 01:25:24.376 strategically our council plan. One of 01:25:24.400 --> 01:25:27.400 our um all of those groups cover so far 01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:29.576 all of the things in our council plan, 01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:32.056 but the big one that's missing for 01:25:32.080 --> 01:25:35.080 the community as a whole is a safety 01:25:36.480 --> 01:25:39.480 a safety community group. We have it in 01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:41.976 our plan. It's one of our pillars. It's 01:25:42.000 --> 01:25:45.000 got a lot of attention um both locally 01:25:45.120 --> 01:25:47.096 and nationally. And I think it would be 01:25:47.120 --> 01:25:49.816 remiss of me to accept this framework 01:25:49.840 --> 01:25:52.840 without aligning our plans directly with 01:25:54.239 --> 01:25:56.296 our 10-year plan that we all as a 01:25:56.320 --> 01:25:58.776 council group 01:25:58.800 --> 01:26:01.256 work with and work by. So, I think 01:26:01.280 --> 01:26:03.175 it's remiss of all of us to let it go 01:26:03.199 --> 01:26:04.695 through like this. So I know some of you 01:26:04.719 --> 01:26:06.776 think that we can put it in later and 01:26:06.800 --> 01:26:08.456 perhaps we can but this is the 01:26:08.480 --> 01:26:11.175 opportunity and this is the place where 01:26:11.199 --> 01:26:13.336 um things are included. So I will object 01:26:13.360 --> 01:26:15.655 to this the way it is. Thank you. 01:26:15.679 --> 01:26:17.896 Thank you councelor Jay. is there 01:26:17.920 --> 01:26:19.976 another speaker for the motion? 01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:23.000 Councelor Holidayiday. Sorry. Oh, 01:26:23.840 --> 01:26:26.840 another speaker for the motion. 01:26:27.199 --> 01:26:28.856 Councelor 01:26:28.880 --> 01:26:31.816 Cunsolo. it may not be for it, might 01:26:31.840 --> 01:26:34.695 not be against. Um I don't think I can 01:26:34.719 --> 01:26:37.719 be put in a in a position yet. look, 01:26:39.280 --> 01:26:41.016 I can see both options that we've been 01:26:41.040 --> 01:26:44.040 presented with having their merits. Um 01:26:44.080 --> 01:26:47.080 the existing ones allow us to operate in 01:26:48.000 --> 01:26:51.000 these more um intense themes of what 01:26:52.080 --> 01:26:55.080 their what the theme like so what the 01:26:56.560 --> 01:26:59.560 commonality is and get deeper discussion 01:27:00.000 --> 01:27:01.736 because even though among the nine 01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:03.416 counselors we represent quite a lot of 01:27:03.440 --> 01:27:06.440 these items we don't have all the views 01:27:07.280 --> 01:27:09.736 of everybody in that community nor does 01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:11.096 the advisory group but they come a 01:27:11.120 --> 01:27:13.096 little bit closer to having the sharing 01:27:13.120 --> 01:27:16.120 ing different views and they become 01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:19.560 quite connected and build their networks 01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:23.496 that filter out into our community. 01:27:23.520 --> 01:27:25.576 so they are a strength and I'm really 01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:27.016 grateful for everybody puts their time 01:27:27.040 --> 01:27:29.576 and energy into an advisory committee. 01:27:29.600 --> 01:27:32.600 it is not a paid job. It is um a 01:27:33.120 --> 01:27:36.120 really nice gift to the whole community. 01:27:37.679 --> 01:27:39.496 with the other option where we go to the 01:27:39.520 --> 01:27:40.936 themes. That makes a lot of sense when 01:27:40.960 --> 01:27:43.960 we have more conversations 01:27:44.480 --> 01:27:47.480 where we differ and we we unpick a 01:27:47.760 --> 01:27:49.576 little bit more why someone has that 01:27:49.600 --> 01:27:51.896 view or we push each other a little bit 01:27:51.920 --> 01:27:54.215 more. It's a little bit harder to 01:27:54.239 --> 01:27:57.239 establish that because you want to 01:27:57.440 --> 01:28:00.440 also find a diverse viewpoint. So some 01:28:01.120 --> 01:28:03.896 people attracted to being on a committee 01:28:03.920 --> 01:28:06.920 might come with 01:28:07.760 --> 01:28:09.576 not a range of views and so therefore 01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:11.655 it's an echo chamber and therefore is it 01:28:11.679 --> 01:28:14.056 actually a full view of the community. 01:28:14.080 --> 01:28:16.296 So both models have their issues. The 01:28:16.320 --> 01:28:17.976 intersectionality is the thing that I 01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:21.000 think we need to keep working towards is 01:28:21.440 --> 01:28:23.655 not everybody's just one thing. How do 01:28:23.679 --> 01:28:26.135 we start bridging between the groups? It 01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:28.135 would be maybe a good opportunity to to 01:28:28.159 --> 01:28:30.695 have every other meeting. Maybe we get 01:28:30.719 --> 01:28:33.256 two groups together. See what we can 01:28:33.280 --> 01:28:35.016 start bringing out of that. We can think 01:28:35.040 --> 01:28:36.856 about this differently. It's not keeping 01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:39.016 it the same. The establishment of 01:28:39.040 --> 01:28:40.536 disability advisory committee, I 01:28:40.560 --> 01:28:41.496 actually think that's pretty exciting 01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:43.576 because we haven't had one. And 01:28:43.600 --> 01:28:46.135 disability has a huge range of how it 01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:49.159 impacts people on a daily basis. And you 01:28:49.199 --> 01:28:51.256 get a taste of it whenever someone has 01:28:51.280 --> 01:28:53.336 an injury and you go, "Oh, I I I just 01:28:53.360 --> 01:28:55.016 never saw the world that way." but 01:28:55.040 --> 01:28:56.936 people live it day in day out and it's 01:28:56.960 --> 01:28:59.016 really important for us to up our 01:28:59.040 --> 01:29:02.040 knowledge on that and the the community 01:29:02.560 --> 01:29:05.560 safety one that was briefly up there um 01:29:05.840 --> 01:29:07.655 I'd like to speak to I do agree that 01:29:07.679 --> 01:29:09.736 it's an emerging topic but I've only 01:29:09.760 --> 01:29:11.336 just seen this and it was on the screen 01:29:11.360 --> 01:29:13.016 for a few minutes and or a few seconds 01:29:13.040 --> 01:29:15.016 and it was even hard for me to even say 01:29:15.040 --> 01:29:16.936 was proposed so I think maybe if it had 01:29:16.960 --> 01:29:18.615 been circulated earlier that would have 01:29:18.639 --> 01:29:19.416 been something that we could have 01:29:19.440 --> 01:29:20.856 considered a little bit deeper and 01:29:20.880 --> 01:29:22.536 discussed um 01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:25.560 point of order a point of Um cons 01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:27.096 councelor Cunsolo. I believe our 01:29:27.120 --> 01:29:29.016 governance allows us to do lastm minute 01:29:29.040 --> 01:29:30.376 amendments. It wasn't 01:29:30.400 --> 01:29:33.175 Yep. That's not a point of order. 01:29:33.199 --> 01:29:35.175 I haven't been in council. I haven't 01:29:35.199 --> 01:29:38.056 been at council today. So I have emailed 01:29:38.080 --> 01:29:39.816 everyone at the earliest convenience and 01:29:39.840 --> 01:29:40.856 haven't heard back from anyone. 01:29:40.880 --> 01:29:43.096 Thank you councelor Jay. There's no 01:29:43.120 --> 01:29:45.336 point of order here in that but 01:29:45.360 --> 01:29:47.576 councelor Cunsolo is speaking from her 01:29:47.600 --> 01:29:49.816 perspective in terms of the item before 01:29:49.840 --> 01:29:52.840 us. I'll let councelor Cunsolo continue. 01:29:53.360 --> 01:29:55.175 Thank you. I I I really wasn't having a 01:29:55.199 --> 01:29:57.416 go. I just I even the wording I just 01:29:57.440 --> 01:29:59.336 hadn't really seen it. So, it was hard 01:29:59.360 --> 01:30:02.360 to understand even what to do there. Um 01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:06.615 it it is a topic of interest and we look 01:30:06.639 --> 01:30:07.896 at what the purpose of the groups are 01:30:07.920 --> 01:30:09.496 and is it something we can work in 01:30:09.520 --> 01:30:11.336 there? Is that a topic that becomes 01:30:11.360 --> 01:30:13.256 something we say all right community 01:30:13.280 --> 01:30:15.175 safety is really important right now. 01:30:15.199 --> 01:30:16.536 Why don't we go to each one of these 01:30:16.560 --> 01:30:18.776 groups and talk about that topic? So 01:30:18.800 --> 01:30:20.376 that's another way we could do this is 01:30:20.400 --> 01:30:22.215 be thematic in the topics that we 01:30:22.239 --> 01:30:25.239 approach the group with as we are able 01:30:25.280 --> 01:30:28.280 to help push like set the agendas and or 01:30:29.040 --> 01:30:30.936 ask questions and that's where we can 01:30:30.960 --> 01:30:33.496 really merge these two ideas. Thank you. 01:30:33.520 --> 01:30:36.520 Thank you councelor Cunsolo. Any other 01:30:36.719 --> 01:30:39.256 speakers to this item? Council me, 01:30:39.280 --> 01:30:41.016 Deputy Mayor Mes. 01:30:41.040 --> 01:30:43.976 Thank you mayor. Um I I'm going to 01:30:44.000 --> 01:30:47.000 support this option one. Um I think 01:30:47.679 --> 01:30:50.679 the discussion tonight is quite clear 01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:53.960 for me in terms of what is before us. 01:30:54.800 --> 01:30:57.800 I understand also councelor Jay 01:30:58.800 --> 01:31:01.800 has put and brought into the discussion 01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:04.695 an item that has merit. There is no 01:31:04.719 --> 01:31:07.719 doubt about that in my mind. I feel this 01:31:08.080 --> 01:31:11.080 point might not be the time for that 01:31:12.159 --> 01:31:14.695 article to be brought in and it should 01:31:14.719 --> 01:31:16.695 be done separately or it could be done 01:31:16.719 --> 01:31:19.719 separately. Nevertheless, 01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:22.135 my thoughts are clear on what is before 01:31:22.159 --> 01:31:24.695 us. Option one, option two. I am going 01:31:24.719 --> 01:31:27.719 to support option one. Thank you, 01:31:28.080 --> 01:31:31.080 Deputy Mayor Mes. Another speaker to 01:31:31.199 --> 01:31:34.056 the motion, councelor Holidayiday. 01:31:34.080 --> 01:31:37.080 thank you, mayor. um this 01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:40.456 I mean I I think I'd first like to start 01:31:40.480 --> 01:31:43.480 with um an I guess an apology to the 01:31:45.520 --> 01:31:48.456 members of these committees for whom we 01:31:48.480 --> 01:31:51.016 have dragged out the process of re 01:31:51.040 --> 01:31:53.096 reconstituting these committees through 01:31:53.120 --> 01:31:56.120 this process. Um but I hope that um in 01:31:56.880 --> 01:31:59.880 in investigating this we have at least 01:32:00.320 --> 01:32:02.456 attempted to do the right thing by um 01:32:02.480 --> 01:32:05.480 the communities and by those members of 01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:07.816 those committees to um ensure that 01:32:07.840 --> 01:32:10.840 they're effective. Um and I'd like to 01:32:11.360 --> 01:32:14.360 you know obviously thank them all um for 01:32:14.480 --> 01:32:16.215 all of their work as others have said 01:32:16.239 --> 01:32:17.736 here. The work that they put in is 01:32:17.760 --> 01:32:20.760 invaluable to our community. Um I remain 01:32:22.960 --> 01:32:24.695 um 01:32:24.719 --> 01:32:27.719 you know vexed by the discussion here um 01:32:27.840 --> 01:32:30.456 because both have their merits and my 01:32:30.480 --> 01:32:33.480 goal in um in pursuing the review of 01:32:33.679 --> 01:32:36.679 these committees was to broaden um the 01:32:38.239 --> 01:32:41.016 range of voices we hear from 01:32:41.040 --> 01:32:44.040 um and deepen the discussion that each 01:32:44.480 --> 01:32:47.480 of those um people has and that's why I 01:32:48.000 --> 01:32:51.000 have supported the um the thematic 01:32:52.480 --> 01:32:55.480 version of this in in seeking to 01:32:57.199 --> 01:33:00.199 constitute a thematic committees. 01:33:00.400 --> 01:33:03.400 to to councelor Cunsolo's point, the 01:33:04.639 --> 01:33:07.416 goal has been to 01:33:07.440 --> 01:33:10.440 ensure that we capture all of the 01:33:10.960 --> 01:33:12.936 intersectionality, the marginalized 01:33:12.960 --> 01:33:15.416 voices, the diversity of our community 01:33:15.440 --> 01:33:18.440 in each discussion that our community 01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:21.175 advisory committees are having. not just 01:33:21.199 --> 01:33:24.199 in narrow areas which is their 01:33:24.480 --> 01:33:27.416 particular area that they've been um you 01:33:27.440 --> 01:33:30.440 know selfidentified into or been put 01:33:31.040 --> 01:33:34.040 into by us in one way or the other. Um 01:33:34.159 --> 01:33:36.215 you know 01:33:36.239 --> 01:33:39.239 to councelor Jay's um you know altre 01:33:41.520 --> 01:33:43.576 wreck here 01:33:43.600 --> 01:33:46.135 I would have liked to have seen thematic 01:33:46.159 --> 01:33:48.776 committees on each of our strategic 01:33:48.800 --> 01:33:50.456 priorities. I don't think it's going to 01:33:50.480 --> 01:33:52.456 get up tonight, but maybe it will. Um 01:33:52.480 --> 01:33:55.480 because then each of all of our 01:33:55.600 --> 01:33:58.600 community could be talking to us or all 01:33:58.800 --> 01:34:01.655 rep a representative group of all of our 01:34:01.679 --> 01:34:03.736 community could be talking to us about 01:34:03.760 --> 01:34:06.376 community safety or about climate change 01:34:06.400 --> 01:34:09.256 or about um sports and recreation or 01:34:09.280 --> 01:34:12.280 about arts or about culture. any one of 01:34:12.480 --> 01:34:14.536 these numbers of people rather than just 01:34:14.560 --> 01:34:17.256 hearing from the voices that self- 01:34:17.280 --> 01:34:19.736 select into those conversations at each 01:34:19.760 --> 01:34:22.695 point which I I kind of feel is what we 01:34:22.719 --> 01:34:25.719 get. Um I take um councelor Thomann's 01:34:26.400 --> 01:34:29.400 point that those committees are 01:34:29.520 --> 01:34:32.056 reviewing those um you know those 01:34:32.080 --> 01:34:35.080 different aspects of our work but in my 01:34:35.360 --> 01:34:36.936 experience over the course of the year 01:34:36.960 --> 01:34:39.960 that I've been here I have not seen 01:34:40.719 --> 01:34:43.336 those different voices come through to 01:34:43.360 --> 01:34:46.360 us as counselors in advice about areas 01:34:47.280 --> 01:34:50.280 outside of the the core kind of um areas 01:34:50.480 --> 01:34:52.695 of those groups. notwithstanding that we 01:34:52.719 --> 01:34:54.776 haven't had them um active for a long 01:34:54.800 --> 01:34:57.576 time. Um but I hope that we will see 01:34:57.600 --> 01:35:00.056 those voices. I hope we can find out of 01:35:00.080 --> 01:35:02.456 this some way of elevating those voices. 01:35:02.480 --> 01:35:04.536 One of my goals here as with the rest of 01:35:04.560 --> 01:35:07.560 the council members has been to improve 01:35:08.159 --> 01:35:11.159 um engagement with our community. And if 01:35:11.840 --> 01:35:14.056 we're going to seek to stick with the 01:35:14.080 --> 01:35:17.016 existing committee um you know kind of 01:35:17.040 --> 01:35:19.336 model then I hope that we can deepen the 01:35:19.360 --> 01:35:22.056 engagement for those members and bring 01:35:22.080 --> 01:35:25.080 in more perspectives or bring their 01:35:25.280 --> 01:35:27.416 perspectives across more of our work as 01:35:27.440 --> 01:35:30.440 a council. Um so I'm going to vote 01:35:30.719 --> 01:35:33.719 against this tonight um because I I 01:35:34.719 --> 01:35:36.856 think or I hope that there is a better 01:35:36.880 --> 01:35:39.736 way. My vote against it is no vote um 01:35:39.760 --> 01:35:42.056 against those committees. It's just that 01:35:42.080 --> 01:35:43.736 I would have liked to have explored a 01:35:43.760 --> 01:35:45.816 different way of deeper more deeply 01:35:45.840 --> 01:35:48.615 engaging those community members in our 01:35:48.639 --> 01:35:49.336 work. 01:35:49.360 --> 01:35:51.896 Thank you councelor Holidayiday. Other 01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:54.920 speakers for the motion in front of us. 01:35:55.600 --> 01:35:58.600 Councelor Buckingham. 01:36:01.520 --> 01:36:04.520 I'd like to 01:36:04.560 --> 01:36:06.215 say a big thank you to the officers that 01:36:06.239 --> 01:36:08.296 have worked on this framework and this 01:36:08.320 --> 01:36:11.320 review. the councelor group 01:36:13.440 --> 01:36:15.416 really feels the importance of this 01:36:15.440 --> 01:36:18.440 review and this work. And when um the 01:36:19.040 --> 01:36:22.040 review was happening, we really did 01:36:22.800 --> 01:36:25.096 press and ask, are there other ways of 01:36:25.120 --> 01:36:27.896 doing this? Because this is so important 01:36:27.920 --> 01:36:30.456 cuz it informs 01:36:30.480 --> 01:36:32.296 getting this right will inform the 01:36:32.320 --> 01:36:35.320 success of our council plan. And we did 01:36:35.920 --> 01:36:37.816 ask questions around how it could be 01:36:37.840 --> 01:36:39.655 done differently. 01:36:39.679 --> 01:36:42.376 And the objective 01:36:42.400 --> 01:36:45.400 behind exploring a thematic model was 01:36:46.560 --> 01:36:49.560 partly to test how we can best bring in 01:36:50.320 --> 01:36:52.215 the capaCity and the capability and the 01:36:52.239 --> 01:36:53.896 experiences of the people of Port 01:36:53.920 --> 01:36:55.655 Phillip. 01:36:55.679 --> 01:36:58.679 And I'm really I'm quite conflicted 01:36:58.719 --> 01:37:00.615 about this decision because on one hand 01:37:00.639 --> 01:37:03.639 I think there is tremendous value in 01:37:03.760 --> 01:37:05.655 having the people that sit on the 01:37:05.679 --> 01:37:07.896 current the former committees sit 01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:10.135 together and have conversations 01:37:10.159 --> 01:37:12.056 together. You know, having an older 01:37:12.080 --> 01:37:14.856 person with a younger person around the 01:37:14.880 --> 01:37:17.016 same table sharing their their expertise 01:37:17.040 --> 01:37:20.040 and experiences and insights. Um I think 01:37:20.960 --> 01:37:23.960 there's real value in that and that I do 01:37:25.280 --> 01:37:26.936 have a sense that there's capaCity in 01:37:26.960 --> 01:37:29.896 the community that 01:37:29.920 --> 01:37:32.456 would um be able to engage around the 01:37:32.480 --> 01:37:34.615 thematic model. 01:37:34.639 --> 01:37:37.639 But with this report, I've heard from 01:37:38.080 --> 01:37:40.695 members of the community 01:37:40.719 --> 01:37:42.456 particularly people on the older 01:37:42.480 --> 01:37:45.480 person's committee and the LGBTIQ plus 01:37:45.920 --> 01:37:48.920 committee around the need for um their 01:37:49.280 --> 01:37:52.280 particular experiences to have a forum 01:37:52.800 --> 01:37:54.376 and 01:37:54.400 --> 01:37:55.816 with discussions with my fellow 01:37:55.840 --> 01:37:57.655 counselors, 01:37:57.679 --> 01:38:00.679 we can address the thematic 01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:04.199 issues and bring in the expertise of our 01:38:04.320 --> 01:38:07.016 community through our consultation 01:38:07.040 --> 01:38:08.856 processes around our strategies that 01:38:08.880 --> 01:38:11.576 underpin our plan. And I think that's a 01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:13.816 space. So, while I'm going to support 01:38:13.840 --> 01:38:15.576 the motion and support continuing with 01:38:15.600 --> 01:38:17.976 our um 01:38:18.000 --> 01:38:21.000 our cohort driven model, I think the 01:38:21.679 --> 01:38:24.536 work continues to explore how we can 01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:27.560 deepen the engagement, deepen um access 01:38:28.400 --> 01:38:30.695 the incredible capaCity of our our 01:38:30.719 --> 01:38:33.095 community in informing those strategies 01:38:33.119 --> 01:38:35.896 and therefore our plan. So, finally, I'd 01:38:35.920 --> 01:38:37.976 just like to say a huge thank you to the 01:38:38.000 --> 01:38:39.496 volunteers 01:38:39.520 --> 01:38:42.215 that participate. their contribution is 01:38:42.239 --> 01:38:45.239 priceless. Um, and they do so very 01:38:46.400 --> 01:38:48.776 generously and I'm really looking 01:38:48.800 --> 01:38:51.736 forward to continuing to work with these 01:38:51.760 --> 01:38:54.760 , community members and to engage with 01:38:54.880 --> 01:38:57.175 these advisory committees. Thank you. 01:38:57.199 --> 01:38:59.736 Thank you, Councelor Buckingham. Any 01:38:59.760 --> 01:39:02.760 final speaker to the item before us? 01:39:05.280 --> 01:39:08.280 In which case, we have a motion before 01:39:08.880 --> 01:39:11.880 us. There are no further speakers. I'll 01:39:12.400 --> 01:39:14.536 now put that motion to a vote. 01:39:14.560 --> 01:39:16.695 beginning with 01:39:16.719 --> 01:39:19.719 Oh, sorry. My apologies. would the 01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:23.000 mover like to close? 01:39:23.199 --> 01:39:25.095 In which case, I can now put it to the 01:39:25.119 --> 01:39:28.119 vote. So, thank you. can we have a 01:39:28.159 --> 01:39:30.135 show of hands in favor of the motion 01:39:30.159 --> 01:39:32.615 before us? 01:39:32.639 --> 01:39:35.639 That is Buckingham, Cunsoloo, Crawford, 01:39:36.960 --> 01:39:39.960 myself, Min, Hardy, Mir, and Thomann. 01:39:42.400 --> 01:39:44.776 All those against, 01:39:44.800 --> 01:39:46.776 Councelor Jay, and Councelor 01:39:46.800 --> 01:39:48.456 Holidayiday, 01:39:48.480 --> 01:39:51.256 in which case that motion is carried. 01:39:51.280 --> 01:39:54.280 Thank you. 01:39:56.800 --> 01:39:58.536 All right, 01:39:58.560 --> 01:40:01.560 that takes us now to item 12.2, to 01:40:01.760 --> 01:40:04.056 councelor expenses monthly reporting for 01:40:04.080 --> 01:40:06.376 October 2025. 01:40:06.400 --> 01:40:09.400 Any questions for the item before us? 01:40:13.440 --> 01:40:16.296 All questions out 01:40:16.320 --> 01:40:18.376 in which case there is a 01:40:18.400 --> 01:40:19.816 recommendation before us. Is there a 01:40:19.840 --> 01:40:22.536 council that wishes to move that or oh 01:40:22.560 --> 01:40:24.536 bit of competition on that one? 01:40:24.560 --> 01:40:27.496 councelor Tomand moved. Deputy mayors me 01:40:27.520 --> 01:40:30.520 seconded. Would the mover wish to speak? 01:40:31.840 --> 01:40:34.840 Would the seconder wish to speak? Would 01:40:35.199 --> 01:40:37.576 any other council like to speak to this 01:40:37.600 --> 01:40:39.976 motion? In which case, there is a motion 01:40:40.000 --> 01:40:41.896 before us. I'll put that to the vote. 01:40:41.920 --> 01:40:44.135 Show of hands. 01:40:44.159 --> 01:40:47.159 In favor, that is carried unanimously. 01:40:50.960 --> 01:40:53.816 And item 12.3, the quarterly reporting 01:40:53.840 --> 01:40:55.576 of records of informal meetings of 01:40:55.600 --> 01:40:57.576 council from the 1st of April to the 01:40:57.600 --> 01:41:00.600 30th of June, 2025. 01:41:01.520 --> 01:41:03.896 Any questions on this item that's before 01:41:03.920 --> 01:41:06.920 us this evening? 01:41:07.199 --> 01:41:08.536 Councelor Holidayiday, is that a 01:41:08.560 --> 01:41:11.336 question? yeah, just um you know, 01:41:11.360 --> 01:41:14.135 this is April to June. When can we how 01:41:14.159 --> 01:41:16.376 long does it take to put these together? 01:41:16.400 --> 01:41:19.256 because it seems like a fair while since 01:41:19.280 --> 01:41:22.280 um since June. 01:41:22.400 --> 01:41:24.615 I can answer that. 01:41:24.639 --> 01:41:25.816 Th James James Gullen, 01:41:25.840 --> 01:41:27.016 thank you for your question. Councelor 01:41:27.040 --> 01:41:28.536 Holidayiday and through you may we um 01:41:28.560 --> 01:41:30.456 updated our systems on how we capture 01:41:30.480 --> 01:41:32.376 these. So we moved from physical forms 01:41:32.400 --> 01:41:33.736 to smart forms and then the 01:41:33.760 --> 01:41:36.615 Cunsoloidation of those forms were um 01:41:36.639 --> 01:41:39.016 catching up. So the next the next report 01:41:39.040 --> 01:41:40.615 will come shortly. We we won't be 01:41:40.639 --> 01:41:43.016 operating in um that level of areas 01:41:43.040 --> 01:41:45.175 moving forward. 01:41:45.199 --> 01:41:48.199 Thank you. And councelor Thomann, a 01:41:48.239 --> 01:41:49.496 question. 01:41:49.520 --> 01:41:51.016 Yes, I've got a question about the way 01:41:51.040 --> 01:41:54.040 we are, you know, the tendencies is 01:41:54.159 --> 01:41:56.456 noted. Um, 01:41:56.480 --> 01:41:59.480 how can apologies be noted 01:42:00.320 --> 01:42:03.320 in the presence of counselors at 01:42:04.320 --> 01:42:06.776 those meetings? 01:42:06.800 --> 01:42:08.215 James Colin, head of governance and 01:42:08.239 --> 01:42:09.736 advocacy. Over to you. 01:42:09.760 --> 01:42:12.215 thank you, mayor, and thank you for 01:42:12.239 --> 01:42:13.655 your question, councelor Tom. I might 01:42:13.679 --> 01:42:16.056 need to confer with my colleague, but 01:42:16.080 --> 01:42:18.856 I think we have updated the wording in 01:42:18.880 --> 01:42:21.880 this report to not present. Um we'll 01:42:23.119 --> 01:42:24.856 continue to look how that's 01:42:24.880 --> 01:42:27.256 investigated, but um at this point we've 01:42:27.280 --> 01:42:29.896 changed it. Um in terms of apologies, we 01:42:29.920 --> 01:42:31.896 will look at whether we could provide an 01:42:31.920 --> 01:42:33.736 asterisk subject to whether a councelor 01:42:33.760 --> 01:42:36.215 does provide a formal apology for their 01:42:36.239 --> 01:42:39.016 um absence from meetings. 01:42:39.040 --> 01:42:41.016 Any 01:42:41.040 --> 01:42:44.040 further questions on the item before us? 01:42:46.639 --> 01:42:48.776 In which case, do we have a mover? 01:42:48.800 --> 01:42:50.776 Moved. Councelor Holidayiday. Seconded. 01:42:50.800 --> 01:42:52.776 Councelor Crawford. Does the mover wish 01:42:52.800 --> 01:42:55.800 to speak? Does the second wish to speak? 01:42:56.080 --> 01:42:58.056 Does anyone else before us wish to speak 01:42:58.080 --> 01:43:01.080 this evening on this item before us? 01:43:02.000 --> 01:43:05.000 In which case, I will put the item to a 01:43:05.440 --> 01:43:08.440 vote. All those in favor. 01:43:08.960 --> 01:43:11.960 That motion is carried unanimously. 01:43:16.560 --> 01:43:19.560 Item 12.4 appointment of counselors to 01:43:20.480 --> 01:43:23.256 the CO employment matters committee. Do 01:43:23.280 --> 01:43:26.280 we have any questions for this item? 01:43:31.040 --> 01:43:33.175 No. In which case, do we have a motion 01:43:33.199 --> 01:43:36.199 before us? That is moved. Councelor 01:43:36.320 --> 01:43:38.456 Crawford, we're noting that yeah, 01:43:38.480 --> 01:43:41.016 Councelor Crawford is the nominee for 01:43:41.040 --> 01:43:43.496 that committee. Move. Councelor Cunsolo 01:43:43.520 --> 01:43:45.095 seconded. Councelor Crawford, does a 01:43:45.119 --> 01:43:47.736 mover wish to speak? 01:43:47.760 --> 01:43:49.976 I'd like to say I think it's it's 01:43:50.000 --> 01:43:52.135 good that we change these roles because 01:43:52.159 --> 01:43:55.159 of it matches the mayor and the deputy 01:43:55.199 --> 01:43:57.736 mayor. But right now there I understand 01:43:57.760 --> 01:43:59.496 there's a process underway and so the 01:43:59.520 --> 01:44:01.655 consistency also of keeping the same 01:44:01.679 --> 01:44:04.679 four is in my opinion a good idea and 01:44:05.040 --> 01:44:07.496 you're all doing a great job. Thank you. 01:44:07.520 --> 01:44:09.416 I'd like to hope so. So thank you 01:44:09.440 --> 01:44:12.215 councelor Cunsolo. does the second 01:44:12.239 --> 01:44:15.239 wish to speak? Thank you. Any other 01:44:15.679 --> 01:44:18.679 speakers to this motion? 01:44:19.760 --> 01:44:22.760 In which case sorry councelor Jay you 01:44:23.199 --> 01:44:26.199 wish to speak? Just a question, Mayor 01:44:26.800 --> 01:44:29.800 Min. Um, are we allowed to self-nominate 01:44:30.159 --> 01:44:33.016 as well for the group or is this a 01:44:33.040 --> 01:44:35.256 decision that was already made? 01:44:35.280 --> 01:44:38.280 , yeah, the counselors can nominate 01:44:38.400 --> 01:44:40.456 can choose to nominate themselves for 01:44:40.480 --> 01:44:43.336 the committees and that is part of the 01:44:43.360 --> 01:44:44.936 standard process of delegated 01:44:44.960 --> 01:44:46.296 committees. 01:44:46.320 --> 01:44:49.016 Okay. Well, look, I I'm in contentious, 01:44:49.040 --> 01:44:50.776 but I'd love to nominate myself. As I 01:44:50.800 --> 01:44:52.135 said, I wasn't there today. Did you? 01:44:52.159 --> 01:44:54.536 Councelor Jay, there is a motion that's 01:44:54.560 --> 01:44:56.215 been put before us. So, we actually need 01:44:56.239 --> 01:44:59.175 to finalize debate on this motion and 01:44:59.199 --> 01:45:01.736 then to see if there's an alternate. So, 01:45:01.760 --> 01:45:03.496 that has been noted. So, we need to 01:45:03.520 --> 01:45:06.135 finish debate on this item and then see 01:45:06.159 --> 01:45:09.159 if we need a further discussion or a 01:45:09.600 --> 01:45:12.296 further motion before us. 01:45:12.320 --> 01:45:14.615 Which case, are there any other speakers 01:45:14.639 --> 01:45:17.639 to the item before us? 01:45:18.400 --> 01:45:21.016 No. In which case I shall put that to a 01:45:21.040 --> 01:45:24.040 vote. 01:45:25.760 --> 01:45:28.760 That is councilor's 01:45:29.280 --> 01:45:31.256 that's yeah carried. All right. Carried 01:45:31.280 --> 01:45:34.280 unanimously. councelor Jay 01:45:35.119 --> 01:45:37.655 is that are you in favor? 01:45:37.679 --> 01:45:38.135 No. 01:45:38.159 --> 01:45:39.736 Okay. All right. Sorry. Let's do the 01:45:39.760 --> 01:45:42.296 count. My apologies. C. Okay. We have 01:45:42.320 --> 01:45:44.856 four. Councelor Buckingham, Councelor 01:45:44.880 --> 01:45:46.695 Cunsoloo, Councelor Crawford, Councelor 01:45:46.719 --> 01:45:48.856 Holidayiday, Councelor Min, Councelor 01:45:48.880 --> 01:45:51.416 Hardy, Councelor Deputy May, and 01:45:51.440 --> 01:45:54.440 Councelor Thomann. All those against, 01:45:55.600 --> 01:45:58.600 Councelor J. That motion is carried. 01:46:04.560 --> 01:46:07.560 We now move on to item 13.1 first 01:46:09.280 --> 01:46:12.280 quarter 2025 to 26 financial review. 01:46:16.960 --> 01:46:18.776 Thank you. I'll declare a conflict 01:46:18.800 --> 01:46:20.456 conflict of interest on this item 01:46:20.480 --> 01:46:22.376 because it's talking about the Woodruff 01:46:22.400 --> 01:46:24.376 oval in Murphy Reserve which is 01:46:24.400 --> 01:46:26.695 predominantly used by the Port Melbourne 01:46:26.719 --> 01:46:28.776 Junior Football Club and my husband's 01:46:28.800 --> 01:46:30.135 the treasurer. So, I'll leave because 01:46:30.159 --> 01:46:32.056 it's just easier for the entire item. 01:46:32.080 --> 01:46:34.536 Thank you. 01:46:34.560 --> 01:46:36.776 Thank you, Council Cunsoloo. And that has 01:46:36.800 --> 01:46:39.800 been noted. 01:46:43.600 --> 01:46:46.600 Any questions for our officers this 01:46:46.800 --> 01:46:48.376 evening 01:46:48.400 --> 01:46:51.400 on this item? 01:46:54.320 --> 01:46:56.376 No questions. 01:46:56.400 --> 01:46:59.400 All right. In which case we have an item 01:46:59.840 --> 01:47:01.336 before us, a recommendation before us. 01:47:01.360 --> 01:47:02.615 Is a councelor wishes to move the 01:47:02.639 --> 01:47:04.376 recommendation before us or something 01:47:04.400 --> 01:47:07.400 different? 01:47:07.920 --> 01:47:10.376 , in which case that is moved. 01:47:10.400 --> 01:47:13.016 Councelor Crawford and seconded Deputy 01:47:13.040 --> 01:47:16.040 Mayor Mes. Does the mover wish to speak? 01:47:18.000 --> 01:47:19.416 I'll reserve my right. 01:47:19.440 --> 01:47:21.816 Reserve your right. Thank you. , 01:47:21.840 --> 01:47:24.840 Deputy May. Deputy May. Any other 01:47:25.440 --> 01:47:28.440 speakers wish to speak for this motion? 01:47:28.960 --> 01:47:31.960 Councelor Buckingham. 01:47:32.000 --> 01:47:35.000 I'd just like to note that this 01:47:35.440 --> 01:47:38.440 financial update includes a significant 01:47:38.800 --> 01:47:40.376 investment in the Bernard Great Gardens 01:47:40.400 --> 01:47:42.936 in Ripen Lee and that we have um kicked 01:47:42.960 --> 01:47:45.336 off a consultation process with the 01:47:45.360 --> 01:47:48.215 community around the Ripen Lee place 01:47:48.239 --> 01:47:50.215 plan including the future of these 01:47:50.239 --> 01:47:52.215 gardens and the playground. It's an area 01:47:52.239 --> 01:47:54.215 that hasn't had investment for a very 01:47:54.239 --> 01:47:57.239 long time and I'm very pleased to see 01:47:57.360 --> 01:48:00.296 that this update includes what will be a 01:48:00.320 --> 01:48:03.320 really significant um addition and 01:48:03.440 --> 01:48:06.056 upgrade for Ripenlay in the community. 01:48:06.080 --> 01:48:07.655 Thank you, Councelor Buckingham. 01:48:07.679 --> 01:48:09.016 Councelor Holidayiday, you wish to 01:48:09.040 --> 01:48:10.376 speak. 01:48:10.400 --> 01:48:12.936 thank you, Mayor. I missed my 01:48:12.960 --> 01:48:14.936 opportunity to ask a question, so I'm 01:48:14.960 --> 01:48:17.960 going to make a statement instead. Um 01:48:18.800 --> 01:48:19.256 01:48:19.280 --> 01:48:20.695 correct. 01:48:20.719 --> 01:48:23.719 Um I much like um Council Buckingham 01:48:25.360 --> 01:48:27.175 here, I'm pleased to see the 01:48:27.199 --> 01:48:29.976 additional investment here in this 01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:32.695 budget update for the Elma Park play 01:48:32.719 --> 01:48:35.719 space upgrade of um $382,000. 01:48:36.639 --> 01:48:38.856 The um the play space in Elma Park, the 01:48:38.880 --> 01:48:41.880 the nudie brank um or the the 01:48:42.400 --> 01:48:44.215 distressing snail and other names that 01:48:44.239 --> 01:48:46.856 it has there is um requires some 01:48:46.880 --> 01:48:48.215 maintenance work. So it's good to see 01:48:48.239 --> 01:48:51.239 the money in here. Um, and by way of 01:48:51.360 --> 01:48:54.360 statement, I hope also that we can um 01:48:54.400 --> 01:48:56.615 find in this budget the money for the 01:48:56.639 --> 01:48:59.576 reinstatement of the monkey bars and the 01:48:59.600 --> 01:49:02.456 small flying fox in this park, which um 01:49:02.480 --> 01:49:04.215 unfortunately we've lost over the years 01:49:04.239 --> 01:49:06.536 and the community um members, the 01:49:06.560 --> 01:49:08.536 younger ones at least, would like to 01:49:08.560 --> 01:49:11.560 see these reinstated. Um so I am fully 01:49:11.920 --> 01:49:14.920 supportive of this budget update. 01:49:15.040 --> 01:49:16.856 Thank you, Councelor Holidayiday. Any 01:49:16.880 --> 01:49:19.880 other speakers to the item before us? 01:49:22.480 --> 01:49:24.296 All right. In which case, there are no 01:49:24.320 --> 01:49:26.856 further speakers. Would the mover like 01:49:26.880 --> 01:49:28.536 to close? 01:49:28.560 --> 01:49:30.376 In which case, now we can put the item 01:49:30.400 --> 01:49:33.400 to a vote. All those in favor? 01:49:35.760 --> 01:49:38.456 We have councel Buckingham Council. And 01:49:38.480 --> 01:49:41.095 noting that councelor Jay, we've just 01:49:41.119 --> 01:49:44.119 put the motion. Perfect timing. That is 01:49:44.320 --> 01:49:47.320 now carried unanimously 01:49:48.560 --> 01:49:51.095 and and 01:49:51.119 --> 01:49:53.016 council Cunsolo can return to the 01:49:53.040 --> 01:49:56.040 chamber. 01:50:05.920 --> 01:50:08.920 That now brings us to item 13.29 01:50:10.159 --> 01:50:12.376 Beaconsfield Parade in Alberta Park. the 01:50:12.400 --> 01:50:15.400 award of lease. Do we have any questions 01:50:16.080 --> 01:50:19.080 for our officers here this evening? 01:50:22.239 --> 01:50:24.296 No. Oh, sorry. Councelor Cunsolo, you 01:50:24.320 --> 01:50:25.496 have a question. 01:50:25.520 --> 01:50:28.456 Is it too late to consider a U-turn bay 01:50:28.480 --> 01:50:31.480 closer to um Canterbury Road because the 01:50:32.719 --> 01:50:34.296 people who are trying to get across this 01:50:34.320 --> 01:50:37.175 intersection typically are impacted 01:50:37.199 --> 01:50:39.336 having to go sit at the light at um 01:50:39.360 --> 01:50:42.360 Canbury Road. 01:50:43.840 --> 01:50:45.576 James Akroyd, senior associate of 01:50:45.600 --> 01:50:48.600 property development. Over to you. 01:50:49.280 --> 01:50:50.776 Thank you for your question through 01:50:50.800 --> 01:50:53.800 through you, Mayor. Um, just just to go 01:50:54.239 --> 01:50:57.239 back a point, um, we're not anticipating 01:50:57.440 --> 01:50:59.256 significant changes to traffic as a 01:50:59.280 --> 01:51:01.336 result of the leasing of this of the 01:51:01.360 --> 01:51:03.256 proposed leasing of the property to 01:51:03.280 --> 01:51:06.280 Albert Park College. Um, 01:51:07.440 --> 01:51:09.496 oh, so sorry, I'm on the wrong one. I I 01:51:09.520 --> 01:51:10.856 read the wrong one. I'm sorry. This is 01:51:10.880 --> 01:51:13.256 the next one. So, sorry. 01:51:13.280 --> 01:51:15.016 Disregard that question. 01:51:15.040 --> 01:51:16.776 You will be able to get your that 01:51:16.800 --> 01:51:18.456 question's now been foreshadowed for the 01:51:18.480 --> 01:51:21.095 next item. So, 01:51:21.119 --> 01:51:23.016 same street, 01:51:23.040 --> 01:51:24.695 different topic. Sorry, everyone. 01:51:24.719 --> 01:51:27.719 That's all right. , any questions to 01:51:28.000 --> 01:51:30.135 item 13.2? 01:51:30.159 --> 01:51:32.776 Councelor Holidayiday. , thank you, 01:51:32.800 --> 01:51:35.800 mayor. with the lease of this um of 01:51:37.520 --> 01:51:40.520 this council building here to I'm 01:51:41.520 --> 01:51:42.776 not I'm not talking anything 01:51:42.800 --> 01:51:45.016 confidential here to the school um we're 01:51:45.040 --> 01:51:47.655 going to see obviously in increased 01:51:47.679 --> 01:51:50.679 numbers of um younger people crossing 01:51:50.719 --> 01:51:53.095 the road here, traveling by bike, by 01:51:53.119 --> 01:51:56.119 foot um across there. what um what 01:51:56.560 --> 01:51:59.560 safety changes might we implement 01:52:01.199 --> 01:52:03.256 here or how might they how might we go 01:52:03.280 --> 01:52:06.280 about considering those um for as we 01:52:06.800 --> 01:52:09.800 lease this and activate this area 01:52:11.760 --> 01:52:14.760 question through through you Matt um the 01:52:16.400 --> 01:52:18.695 um there's currently a signalized 01:52:18.719 --> 01:52:21.719 controlled intersection u at the 01:52:23.040 --> 01:52:25.175 junction of Beaconsfield parade and 01:52:25.199 --> 01:52:28.199 Kerford Road. there are no works 01:52:28.400 --> 01:52:30.296 associated with the grant of the lease 01:52:30.320 --> 01:52:33.016 that would change traffic conditions as 01:52:33.040 --> 01:52:35.496 such. Um 01:52:35.520 --> 01:52:37.416 most of the students that would be 01:52:37.440 --> 01:52:40.296 attending the the the premises would 01:52:40.320 --> 01:52:43.320 arrive there on foot. Um, so 01:52:45.599 --> 01:52:47.655 it's envisaged that the use is likely to 01:52:47.679 --> 01:52:49.816 generate perhaps less vehicle and 01:52:49.840 --> 01:52:51.496 pedestrian activity than some of the 01:52:51.520 --> 01:52:53.256 previous commercial operations that 01:52:53.280 --> 01:52:56.280 existed on that site. Um, however, it it 01:52:57.280 --> 01:53:00.135 certainly could be investigated further 01:53:00.159 --> 01:53:03.159 um as the use is incorporated early next 01:53:03.920 --> 01:53:06.776 year. 01:53:06.800 --> 01:53:09.800 Thank you. Councelor Hardy, question. 01:53:10.080 --> 01:53:12.456 Do we have any indication of what the 01:53:12.480 --> 01:53:15.480 school is going to use the site for? 01:53:15.920 --> 01:53:18.920 Thank you through you mayor. Um so 01:53:19.599 --> 01:53:22.599 the school are looking at developing a 01:53:22.719 --> 01:53:25.719 reading and writing center 01:53:26.239 --> 01:53:29.239 um in the community and this will 01:53:30.159 --> 01:53:33.159 involve educating children in in 01:53:34.960 --> 01:53:37.896 the tradition of writing and in and 01:53:37.920 --> 01:53:40.920 reading. So a library type operation 01:53:41.760 --> 01:53:44.760 um to to to get community activity going 01:53:45.760 --> 01:53:48.760 there and community use there um 01:53:49.520 --> 01:53:51.816 various programs are proposed to be 01:53:51.840 --> 01:53:54.215 established including a regular 01:53:54.239 --> 01:53:56.536 community book club open to all 01:53:56.560 --> 01:53:58.615 community members facilitated by the 01:53:58.639 --> 01:54:00.856 colleg's librarians 01:54:00.880 --> 01:54:03.880 um parents and students. 01:54:04.080 --> 01:54:06.296 This proposed to host visiting writers, 01:54:06.320 --> 01:54:08.856 especially local writers, to discuss 01:54:08.880 --> 01:54:11.175 newly released books to community 01:54:11.199 --> 01:54:12.776 audiences. 01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:14.615 Regular writing classes for students 01:54:14.639 --> 01:54:16.536 will be carried out during term time and 01:54:16.560 --> 01:54:19.560 during school hours and for community 01:54:19.920 --> 01:54:21.816 members outside normal school hours 01:54:21.840 --> 01:54:23.976 after 4 in the afternoons and at 01:54:24.000 --> 01:54:27.000 weekends led by a writer in resident who 01:54:28.320 --> 01:54:30.695 would be based at the property. 01:54:30.719 --> 01:54:33.016 Um it's also proposed as part of the 01:54:33.040 --> 01:54:36.040 community use that regular secondhand 01:54:36.320 --> 01:54:39.320 book sales would be um carried out there 01:54:40.400 --> 01:54:43.400 led by the Rotary Club of Albert Park 01:54:44.639 --> 01:54:46.456 and by formal agreement with community 01:54:46.480 --> 01:54:48.456 organizations the use of the space to 01:54:48.480 --> 01:54:51.256 host community book clubs produce 01:54:51.280 --> 01:54:54.280 online publications and create podcasts 01:54:55.920 --> 01:54:57.575 using the equipment and software 01:54:57.599 --> 01:55:00.056 provided by the college. There's a 01:55:00.080 --> 01:55:02.296 variety of uses. 01:55:02.320 --> 01:55:04.296 Thank you. Any further questions, 01:55:04.320 --> 01:55:07.256 councelor Thomann? 01:55:07.280 --> 01:55:08.536 So actually I don't know what's 01:55:08.560 --> 01:55:09.976 confidential, what's not confidential. 01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:13.000 So if my if if if it's confidential, 01:55:13.199 --> 01:55:16.135 please apologize. So there were two 01:55:16.159 --> 01:55:19.159 applicants or two organizations that 01:55:21.040 --> 01:55:24.040 but the second one was excluded and 01:55:24.639 --> 01:55:27.639 not considered. can you explain why? 01:55:29.520 --> 01:55:31.016 Thank you for your question through you 01:55:31.040 --> 01:55:34.040 mayor. There um there were two two two 01:55:35.280 --> 01:55:38.280 responses and one was was excluded um 01:55:38.639 --> 01:55:41.639 and it was excluded because whilst it 01:55:41.840 --> 01:55:44.215 had some merit it did not meet the m 01:55:44.239 --> 01:55:47.239 mandatory financial criteria as part 01:55:48.000 --> 01:55:51.000 of that submission. So the evaluation 01:55:51.360 --> 01:55:54.360 panel took property advice and as a 01:55:55.280 --> 01:55:58.135 following that advice that response 01:55:58.159 --> 01:56:01.159 was was excluded. 01:56:02.239 --> 01:56:04.615 Thank you. Any further further 01:56:04.639 --> 01:56:07.575 questions? 01:56:07.599 --> 01:56:10.536 All right. We have a recommendation 01:56:10.560 --> 01:56:11.976 before us. Is there a council that 01:56:12.000 --> 01:56:14.936 wishes to move or an alternate? Moved. 01:56:14.960 --> 01:56:17.016 Councelor Hardy. Seconded. Councelor 01:56:17.040 --> 01:56:20.040 Thomann. Does the mover wish to speak? 01:56:21.679 --> 01:56:24.056 This is an excellent use of a council 01:56:24.080 --> 01:56:25.736 property that's been vacant for some 01:56:25.760 --> 01:56:28.760 time and also um been struggling to find 01:56:29.920 --> 01:56:32.856 an occupant over the years and what a 01:56:32.880 --> 01:56:35.655 great initiative from the Albert Park 01:56:35.679 --> 01:56:37.256 College in relation to involving the 01:56:37.280 --> 01:56:39.016 community in the aspect of this building 01:56:39.040 --> 01:56:40.536 as well. 01:56:40.560 --> 01:56:42.376 Thank you councelor Hardy. Does the 01:56:42.400 --> 01:56:44.215 second wish to speak? 01:56:44.239 --> 01:56:45.816 Yeah, 01:56:45.840 --> 01:56:47.976 like councelor Hardy. Um we'll be very 01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:51.000 pleased when this property is is 01:56:51.280 --> 01:56:54.280 is open again to to the public and 01:56:55.199 --> 01:56:57.976 you know a better community use that 01:56:58.000 --> 01:57:00.376 what was there before. So I think 01:57:00.400 --> 01:57:02.456 obviously Abu Park College needs more 01:57:02.480 --> 01:57:04.456 space but the sound of it the de you 01:57:04.480 --> 01:57:06.456 know developing the the empire through 01:57:06.480 --> 01:57:08.376 our City and they're doing a great job. 01:57:08.400 --> 01:57:10.296 It's a great school they want to 01:57:10.320 --> 01:57:12.776 engage the community u with it outside 01:57:12.800 --> 01:57:15.095 the school premises. So, it's something 01:57:15.119 --> 01:57:18.119 that we need to encourage and support. 01:57:18.639 --> 01:57:21.639 Thank you. Any other councilors wish to 01:57:21.760 --> 01:57:24.760 speak to this item? 01:57:25.280 --> 01:57:27.736 In which case, would the mover choose to 01:57:27.760 --> 01:57:30.760 close? In which case, we'll put the 01:57:31.119 --> 01:57:34.119 motion to a vote. All those in favor? 01:57:35.040 --> 01:57:38.040 That motion is carried unanimously. 01:57:40.080 --> 01:57:43.080 brings us now to item 13.3. The proposed 01:57:43.760 --> 01:57:45.575 road discontinuence of Kerford Road, 01:57:45.599 --> 01:57:47.016 Herbert, and Montigue Streets at the 01:57:47.040 --> 01:57:48.936 upper park intersection as part of the 01:57:48.960 --> 01:57:51.960 Shrine 2C project. A question had been 01:57:52.239 --> 01:57:55.239 foreshadowed previously if you may 01:57:55.520 --> 01:57:56.936 wish to repeat the question for this 01:57:56.960 --> 01:57:59.256 item. Council Cunsoloe, 01:57:59.280 --> 01:58:02.280 sorry, give you a preview. , has a 01:58:02.719 --> 01:58:05.719 could a U-turn bay be still considered 01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:09.000 closer to Canterbury Road because the 01:58:09.280 --> 01:58:10.695 people who would be wanting to go across 01:58:10.719 --> 01:58:13.016 this intersection are trying to get to 01:58:13.040 --> 01:58:14.856 their properties on the other side and 01:58:14.880 --> 01:58:17.880 sitting at the light is is sometimes 01:58:18.239 --> 01:58:19.736 lengthy. 01:58:19.760 --> 01:58:21.655 Michael Mojo. 01:58:21.679 --> 01:58:23.256 Yep. Vicki. 01:58:23.280 --> 01:58:24.776 Yep. Thank you for the question 01:58:24.800 --> 01:58:26.856 councelor Cunsoloer and through you may 01:58:26.880 --> 01:58:29.880 um the um shrine to see master plan um 01:58:30.000 --> 01:58:32.615 was endorsed sorry released by the 01:58:32.639 --> 01:58:35.095 government in August 2023 01:58:35.119 --> 01:58:37.976 and um as far as we're aware there there 01:58:38.000 --> 01:58:41.000 wasn't um any sort of allowance for such 01:58:41.440 --> 01:58:44.440 a a thing in that plan. Um whilst this 01:58:44.719 --> 01:58:47.496 road has been closed since 2021, um 01:58:47.520 --> 01:58:49.016 we're not aware of anything that's come 01:58:49.040 --> 01:58:51.496 up in the consultation seeking that, but 01:58:51.520 --> 01:58:53.175 we can take that on notice with our 01:58:53.199 --> 01:58:56.199 transport team and come back to you. 01:58:56.639 --> 01:58:58.856 You any further questions? Councelor 01:58:58.880 --> 01:59:00.536 Holidayiday. 01:59:00.560 --> 01:59:02.456 thank you, M. Um just on the 01:59:02.480 --> 01:59:05.480 consultation there, what um what 01:59:06.239 --> 01:59:07.976 community consultation did we undertake 01:59:08.000 --> 01:59:09.575 on this and what response did we get 01:59:09.599 --> 01:59:11.256 from the community for this um 01:59:11.280 --> 01:59:14.280 particular closure? 01:59:19.440 --> 01:59:21.416 Thank you, council. Hello, if you 01:59:21.440 --> 01:59:24.440 question through your mayor. Um the 01:59:24.880 --> 01:59:27.496 community consultation was undertaken by 01:59:27.520 --> 01:59:29.736 our open space team which ran 01:59:29.760 --> 01:59:31.575 concurrently with the discontinuence 01:59:31.599 --> 01:59:34.599 process. Um during this period, council 01:59:34.880 --> 01:59:37.175 undertook a broader engagement. Um 01:59:37.199 --> 01:59:39.416 although feedback wasn't specifically 01:59:39.440 --> 01:59:41.256 sought on the closure of this 01:59:41.280 --> 01:59:44.280 intersection, um we do note that six of 01:59:44.320 --> 01:59:47.320 the 104 comments referenced it. Um and 01:59:47.520 --> 01:59:50.376 the feedback received that three opposed 01:59:50.400 --> 01:59:53.400 the closure whilst two supported it. Um 01:59:53.520 --> 01:59:56.296 they weren't formal submissions to the 01:59:56.320 --> 01:59:59.320 discontinuence. Um it was referenced but 02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:01.976 there were no formal objections 02:00:02.000 --> 02:00:04.856 received. Council Holidayiday, 02:00:04.880 --> 02:00:07.880 thank you. Any further questions to this 02:00:07.920 --> 02:00:08.376 item? 02:00:08.400 --> 02:00:11.400 Can I just elaborate in that a number 02:00:11.920 --> 02:00:14.776 of years ago? There was this issue came 02:00:14.800 --> 02:00:16.376 about as a result of a community 02:00:16.400 --> 02:00:17.896 petition 02:00:17.920 --> 02:00:19.976 and a community meeting at which at 02:00:20.000 --> 02:00:21.736 and a council meeting at which council 02:00:21.760 --> 02:00:24.760 originally made the decision to for 02:00:25.119 --> 02:00:27.896 the roads road discontinuence. The 02:00:27.920 --> 02:00:30.776 implementation of that decision was then 02:00:30.800 --> 02:00:32.695 put on hold so that it could be 02:00:32.719 --> 02:00:35.575 included as part of this shrine to sea 02:00:35.599 --> 02:00:38.599 project. So um which it's now been done. 02:00:40.560 --> 02:00:43.560 Thank you. Any further questions to this 02:00:43.679 --> 02:00:46.679 item 02:00:46.880 --> 02:00:49.416 in which case there is a recommendation 02:00:49.440 --> 02:00:51.256 before us. Do we have a mover of that 02:00:51.280 --> 02:00:54.280 recommendation or something different? 02:00:55.280 --> 02:00:58.280 Um seeing coun deputy mayor Mers and 02:00:59.360 --> 02:01:02.296 seconded councelor Hardy. So deputy 02:01:02.320 --> 02:01:03.816 meers as a mover would you like to 02:01:03.840 --> 02:01:05.976 speak? 02:01:06.000 --> 02:01:07.896 The mover wishes to reserve the right to 02:01:07.920 --> 02:01:09.496 speak for the close potentially. 02:01:09.520 --> 02:01:11.336 Councelor Hardy as a seconder would you 02:01:11.360 --> 02:01:13.016 like to speak? Just in relation to 02:01:13.040 --> 02:01:15.016 committee consultation, I'm I'm aware 02:01:15.040 --> 02:01:16.536 that it was a decision made by the 02:01:16.560 --> 02:01:18.456 previous council and since I've been 02:01:18.480 --> 02:01:21.480 sitting in this seat, I've had no one 02:01:22.480 --> 02:01:24.376 of my residents contact me in relation 02:01:24.400 --> 02:01:26.536 to any opposition and or favorable for 02:01:26.560 --> 02:01:28.615 this concept. 02:01:28.639 --> 02:01:31.639 Thank you. Any other speakers to this 02:01:31.840 --> 02:01:34.776 item? Councelor Holidayiday. 02:01:34.800 --> 02:01:36.215 Thank you, Mayor. Just briefly, I think 02:01:36.239 --> 02:01:38.056 that the um the discontinuence of the 02:01:38.080 --> 02:01:41.080 road here will um be a a great 02:01:42.159 --> 02:01:45.159 improvement to what otherwise would be a 02:01:45.679 --> 02:01:47.816 a discontinuence of the shrine to the 02:01:47.840 --> 02:01:50.376 sea through this area. So, being able to 02:01:50.400 --> 02:01:53.016 continue the um the large scale kind of 02:01:53.040 --> 02:01:55.336 boulevard and landscaping that we do 02:01:55.360 --> 02:01:57.016 through here is going to be a huge 02:01:57.040 --> 02:01:59.575 improvement. And um our little part of 02:01:59.599 --> 02:02:01.976 it here of um you know, getting rid of 02:02:02.000 --> 02:02:03.655 this little bit of ashfelt will 02:02:03.679 --> 02:02:06.376 improve it. um marketkedly from the 02:02:06.400 --> 02:02:08.215 alternative which is to have to cross 02:02:08.239 --> 02:02:10.296 yet another road through here. Thank 02:02:10.320 --> 02:02:10.536 you. 02:02:10.560 --> 02:02:12.135 Thank you councelor Holidayiday. Any 02:02:12.159 --> 02:02:15.095 other speakers? 02:02:15.119 --> 02:02:17.416 In which case I'll head back to the clo 02:02:17.440 --> 02:02:20.440 the mover to close. Thank you mayor. Um 02:02:20.880 --> 02:02:23.880 clearly this has come to a conclusion 02:02:24.719 --> 02:02:26.695 and hopefully we'll all support it and 02:02:26.719 --> 02:02:29.719 those previous councilors will be in 02:02:31.040 --> 02:02:33.976 joy and happiness about the fact that it 02:02:34.000 --> 02:02:37.000 has been completed and it will be a 02:02:37.520 --> 02:02:40.520 seamless shrine to see when that is 02:02:41.520 --> 02:02:44.520 completed. So I commend it. 02:02:44.960 --> 02:02:47.960 Thank you. A motion is now before us and 02:02:48.239 --> 02:02:50.376 that will be put to the vote. All those 02:02:50.400 --> 02:02:53.400 in favor. 02:02:53.440 --> 02:02:56.440 That motion is carried unanimously. 02:03:00.400 --> 02:03:02.695 It takes us to Thank you. That takes us 02:03:02.719 --> 02:03:05.719 to item 13.4, the contract award of RFT 02:03:07.040 --> 02:03:10.040 triple 3, sorry, triple0345, 02:03:10.159 --> 02:03:11.976 cleaning of council buildings and public 02:03:12.000 --> 02:03:13.575 amenities. 02:03:13.599 --> 02:03:16.599 Any questions before this item? 02:03:22.000 --> 02:03:24.856 , sorry, Councelor Jay. My There you 02:03:24.880 --> 02:03:27.880 are, Councelor Jay. 02:03:28.480 --> 02:03:31.480 Thank you. Let me just um find it on 02:03:31.520 --> 02:03:34.520 page 47. I just would like to 02:03:36.560 --> 02:03:39.016 um No, maybe not that page. Give me a 02:03:39.040 --> 02:03:40.936 second. 02:03:40.960 --> 02:03:43.960 Um, it refers to paying the contractors 02:03:44.480 --> 02:03:47.480 a lump sum. What does that mean? 02:03:53.119 --> 02:03:55.175 , could I just get clarity of the page 02:03:55.199 --> 02:03:56.536 please councelor J? 02:03:56.560 --> 02:03:59.416 I am looking for it is on page six of 02:03:59.440 --> 02:04:02.440 the procurement plan. It's 2.3 02:04:02.800 --> 02:04:05.800 contractual arrangement and it says um 02:04:06.320 --> 02:04:08.856 proposed contract five years and pricing 02:04:08.880 --> 02:04:11.496 structure lump sum and schedule of 02:04:11.520 --> 02:04:13.416 rates. Sorry, it was just something I 02:04:13.440 --> 02:04:15.175 caught my eye before. I'm happy to take 02:04:15.199 --> 02:04:16.296 it on notice. 02:04:16.320 --> 02:04:17.816 no, that's okay. Thank you for the 02:04:17.840 --> 02:04:20.135 question, Councelor Jay. Through you, 02:04:20.159 --> 02:04:23.159 Mayor. Um what that refers to is that um 02:04:23.360 --> 02:04:26.360 a tender has provided um 02:04:28.080 --> 02:04:31.080 a price for completion of the the 02:04:31.920 --> 02:04:34.856 scope of works over a period of time. 02:04:34.880 --> 02:04:37.880 And when we add up all of the hours of 02:04:38.960 --> 02:04:41.960 work across that um period of time, 02:04:42.000 --> 02:04:44.856 which in this case is 5 years, that that 02:04:44.880 --> 02:04:47.496 equates to what we call the lump sum. So 02:04:47.520 --> 02:04:50.520 that's the total amount of the contract. 02:04:51.040 --> 02:04:54.040 Three three measures to clarify. So in 02:04:55.040 --> 02:04:56.776 this particular case, what we've tended 02:04:56.800 --> 02:04:59.800 for is a schedule of works. 02:05:01.360 --> 02:05:04.360 and rather than that being variable, 02:05:04.719 --> 02:05:06.856 we've asked for a lump sum price and so 02:05:06.880 --> 02:05:09.016 that's the total cost. But in addition, 02:05:09.040 --> 02:05:12.040 the schedule of rates is basically a 02:05:12.320 --> 02:05:14.056 pricing schedule. which means in 02:05:14.080 --> 02:05:16.215 addition to that if we have ad hoc work 02:05:16.239 --> 02:05:18.695 we want to add to the specifications 02:05:18.719 --> 02:05:21.719 that we do that on a on a um 02:05:22.639 --> 02:05:25.639 order by order basis 02:05:25.760 --> 02:05:28.215 thank you any further questions 02:05:28.239 --> 02:05:29.496 councelor Tim 02:05:29.520 --> 02:05:31.816 just a followup for me mayor M 02:05:31.840 --> 02:05:34.296 yep sure I'll go councelor Jay and then 02:05:34.320 --> 02:05:36.296 councelor Thomann your question has been 02:05:36.320 --> 02:05:38.615 noted councelor Jay 02:05:38.639 --> 02:05:40.936 um and and and and just what what do we 02:05:40.960 --> 02:05:42.856 have put in place to ensure that the 02:05:42.880 --> 02:05:45.816 work over the 5 years remains at um the 02:05:45.840 --> 02:05:47.575 high standard that we're used to here in 02:05:47.599 --> 02:05:50.599 the City of Port Phillip. 02:05:50.800 --> 02:05:51.416 Thank you. 02:05:51.440 --> 02:05:52.856 Yep. Thank you for the question through 02:05:52.880 --> 02:05:54.936 you, mayor. Um we do have contract 02:05:54.960 --> 02:05:57.960 managers on on these contracts who um 02:05:58.560 --> 02:06:01.095 are responsible for having regular 02:06:01.119 --> 02:06:02.776 contract performance meetings with 02:06:02.800 --> 02:06:05.800 contractors. Um we also ask um for 02:06:06.000 --> 02:06:08.615 feedback from users of council 02:06:08.639 --> 02:06:11.639 facilities and and welcome feedback 02:06:11.760 --> 02:06:14.376 um so that we can attend to any anything 02:06:14.400 --> 02:06:17.400 that requires uplift in standard and um 02:06:17.840 --> 02:06:19.816 we do monitor their performance 02:06:19.840 --> 02:06:21.575 throughout the life of the contract as 02:06:21.599 --> 02:06:23.256 well. 02:06:23.280 --> 02:06:25.016 Thank you. Excellent. Thank you. 02:06:25.040 --> 02:06:27.416 Thank you councelor J. Councelor Timman 02:06:27.440 --> 02:06:29.736 your question. So the recommendation for 02:06:29.760 --> 02:06:32.695 the offices is to keep the same 02:06:32.719 --> 02:06:34.215 contract that we've got at the moment. 02:06:34.239 --> 02:06:35.655 Yes. 02:06:35.679 --> 02:06:37.575 Um the recommendation is to award a 02:06:37.599 --> 02:06:40.599 contract to um at one of the tenderers 02:06:40.719 --> 02:06:43.336 who happens to be the incumbent. Yes. 02:06:43.360 --> 02:06:46.135 Um are they um proposing to sing to do 02:06:46.159 --> 02:06:48.135 things differently but that what they 02:06:48.159 --> 02:06:51.159 used to do as part of this contract 02:06:52.560 --> 02:06:54.296 through you may the scope of scope of 02:06:54.320 --> 02:06:56.215 works in this contract is different to 02:06:56.239 --> 02:06:59.239 the last scope of works. Yes. 02:07:00.079 --> 02:07:02.055 Are they major significant? Are they 02:07:02.079 --> 02:07:03.496 major differences? 02:07:03.520 --> 02:07:05.816 there's differences to the the type 02:07:05.840 --> 02:07:07.896 of um cleans. There's different 02:07:07.920 --> 02:07:10.215 differences to frequency of cleans 02:07:10.239 --> 02:07:13.239 across premises. Um and also some of 02:07:13.280 --> 02:07:15.496 those premises. We we have premises that 02:07:15.520 --> 02:07:18.055 have come online that weren't online 02:07:18.079 --> 02:07:20.615 last time we awarded this contract. So 02:07:20.639 --> 02:07:23.639 we we update um based on um feedback. Um 02:07:25.599 --> 02:07:28.599 we update based on um our service level 02:07:28.719 --> 02:07:31.095 changes and our expectations of of the 02:07:31.119 --> 02:07:34.119 users of the facilities. 02:07:34.560 --> 02:07:37.256 Thank you councelor Thomann. Any further 02:07:37.280 --> 02:07:40.280 questions on this item? 02:07:40.960 --> 02:07:43.175 All right. we have a recommendation 02:07:43.199 --> 02:07:44.376 before us. Is there a council that 02:07:44.400 --> 02:07:45.736 wishes to move? Thank you councelor 02:07:45.760 --> 02:07:47.976 Thomann. Seconded councelor Holidayiday. 02:07:48.000 --> 02:07:50.296 Does the mover wish to speak? Does the 02:07:50.320 --> 02:07:52.856 second wish to speak? Does any other 02:07:52.880 --> 02:07:55.880 counselor wish to speak? 02:07:57.040 --> 02:07:59.575 No speaking has been noted. So 02:07:59.599 --> 02:08:02.376 councelor Tom would you like to close? 02:08:02.400 --> 02:08:04.776 Just to say obviously cleaning of our 02:08:04.800 --> 02:08:07.800 buildings is is important and um 02:08:10.800 --> 02:08:12.936 hopefully through the contract managers 02:08:12.960 --> 02:08:14.695 and staff we'll have we'll keep the 02:08:14.719 --> 02:08:17.719 standards. So we the community who comes 02:08:18.000 --> 02:08:20.695 to visit us or the kids who go to the 02:08:20.719 --> 02:08:22.856 childcare centers or counselors coming 02:08:22.880 --> 02:08:25.095 to council meetings and briefings that 02:08:25.119 --> 02:08:28.119 you know we are happy to be in in an 02:08:29.280 --> 02:08:31.896 environment that is friendly and 02:08:31.920 --> 02:08:34.920 obviously clean. So I'll recommend 02:08:36.719 --> 02:08:38.536 you know I think at the moment we have I 02:08:38.560 --> 02:08:39.816 think we're pretty lucky with what we 02:08:39.840 --> 02:08:41.736 got. Hopefully they will with the 02:08:41.760 --> 02:08:43.416 chances that are suggested they will 02:08:43.440 --> 02:08:45.256 even be better. So, I'd recommend the 02:08:45.280 --> 02:08:46.615 motion. 02:08:46.639 --> 02:08:49.175 Thank you. The motion has now been 02:08:49.199 --> 02:08:51.655 put. We'll put that to the vote. All in 02:08:51.679 --> 02:08:53.256 favor? 02:08:53.280 --> 02:08:56.280 That motion is carried unanimously? 02:08:59.280 --> 02:09:02.280 That takes us to item 13.5, 02:09:02.480 --> 02:09:05.480 asset management policy. Any questions 02:09:05.760 --> 02:09:07.416 for our officers this evening in 02:09:07.440 --> 02:09:10.440 relation to item 13.5? 02:09:12.320 --> 02:09:15.320 Okay, no questions to that item in which 02:09:16.239 --> 02:09:17.816 case there is a recommendation before 02:09:17.840 --> 02:09:20.376 us. Is there a councelor that wishes to 02:09:20.400 --> 02:09:21.896 move that recommendation or something 02:09:21.920 --> 02:09:24.920 different? 02:09:25.040 --> 02:09:27.016 Move. Councelor Holidayiday seconded 02:09:27.040 --> 02:09:29.655 councelor Tomand. Does the mover wish to 02:09:29.679 --> 02:09:31.816 speak? 02:09:31.840 --> 02:09:34.135 Does the second wish to speak? 02:09:34.159 --> 02:09:35.896 Does any other counselor wish to speak 02:09:35.920 --> 02:09:38.920 to this motion? 02:09:39.679 --> 02:09:42.679 Does the mover wish to close? 02:09:43.440 --> 02:09:46.440 much like we appreciate our um clean 02:09:47.679 --> 02:09:50.679 facilities, a good asset 02:09:51.280 --> 02:09:54.280 management policy is essential for us to 02:09:55.599 --> 02:09:58.599 be good custodians of the um significant 02:10:01.280 --> 02:10:03.655 asset portfolio that the City of Port 02:10:03.679 --> 02:10:06.679 Philip manages. and 02:10:06.960 --> 02:10:09.416 councils can get into trouble when they 02:10:09.440 --> 02:10:11.655 don't properly manage their assets, when 02:10:11.679 --> 02:10:14.679 they let maintenance and renewal lapse 02:10:14.800 --> 02:10:17.800 because of other pressures which 02:10:18.000 --> 02:10:20.615 makes this all the more important in a 02:10:20.639 --> 02:10:22.936 fiscally constrained environment that we 02:10:22.960 --> 02:10:25.736 operate in. So it's good to see the 02:10:25.760 --> 02:10:27.976 refresh and renewal here of our asset 02:10:28.000 --> 02:10:30.296 management strategy. 02:10:30.320 --> 02:10:33.175 Yes, it is. That motion has now been 02:10:33.199 --> 02:10:36.135 put. So, let's put that to the vote. All 02:10:36.159 --> 02:10:39.159 those in favor, that motion is carried 02:10:39.199 --> 02:10:42.199 unanimously. 02:10:42.639 --> 02:10:44.536 That concludes the Office of Reports. 02:10:44.560 --> 02:10:47.560 , so we're on to item 14, notices of 02:10:48.239 --> 02:10:51.239 motion. I can report that there are no 02:10:51.360 --> 02:10:52.936 notices of motion tonight. So, 02:10:52.960 --> 02:10:54.536 therefore, that item, there's nothing 02:10:54.560 --> 02:10:57.560 further. Item 15, reports by councelor 02:10:58.320 --> 02:11:00.055 delegates. Are there councilors that 02:11:00.079 --> 02:11:02.456 wish to share delegate reports this 02:11:02.480 --> 02:11:05.256 evening? Councelor Jay, the floor is 02:11:05.280 --> 02:11:07.496 yours. 02:11:07.520 --> 02:11:10.520 , thank you, Mayor. Um, I attended 02:11:11.360 --> 02:11:14.360 yesterday the Community Chest Awards 02:11:14.960 --> 02:11:17.095 afternoon at the Middle Park Bowls Club. 02:11:17.119 --> 02:11:18.936 Um, for those that don't know, Community 02:11:18.960 --> 02:11:21.960 Chest is um an an op shop, an 02:11:22.239 --> 02:11:24.776 opportunity shop on Bank Street in South 02:11:24.800 --> 02:11:27.336 Melbourne. Um, they are a community 02:11:27.360 --> 02:11:30.055 organization that uses their profit for 02:11:30.079 --> 02:11:33.079 purpose. Um they utilized peppercorn 02:11:33.840 --> 02:11:36.456 rent from the City of Port Phillip and 02:11:36.480 --> 02:11:39.095 um donations from our community. They 02:11:39.119 --> 02:11:42.119 have a room for free free things for 02:11:42.400 --> 02:11:44.055 anyone in need that may need some 02:11:44.079 --> 02:11:45.896 clothing or some shoes which is very 02:11:45.920 --> 02:11:47.976 generous these days. A lot of op shops, 02:11:48.000 --> 02:11:50.296 you know, charge for everything. This 02:11:50.320 --> 02:11:53.320 year they proudly raised just um just on 02:11:53.760 --> 02:11:56.615 $73,000. 02:11:56.639 --> 02:11:59.639 those $73,000 were um granted to I 02:12:01.119 --> 02:12:03.976 think 40 um I think everyone got four 02:12:04.000 --> 02:12:05.496 $4,100 02:12:05.520 --> 02:12:07.095 each. There was about 30 different 02:12:07.119 --> 02:12:09.016 community organizations from the City of 02:12:09.040 --> 02:12:11.896 Port Phillip which was fantastic. Um 02:12:11.920 --> 02:12:14.920 heart space that replenishes bee 02:12:15.840 --> 02:12:18.776 pollinator corridors and public gardens 02:12:18.800 --> 02:12:20.695 first step helping our locals out of 02:12:20.719 --> 02:12:22.215 addiction. 02:12:22.239 --> 02:12:25.239 Rockus our local theater. Um some of the 02:12:25.360 --> 02:12:28.135 groups use the funds to create lunches 02:12:28.159 --> 02:12:31.159 for kids to ensure that kids are fed. 02:12:31.599 --> 02:12:34.296 Um the funds are also used to pay um 02:12:34.320 --> 02:12:35.976 fees, school fees for for 02:12:36.000 --> 02:12:38.296 underprivileged not to pay school 02:12:38.320 --> 02:12:40.536 fees to buy books for underprivileged 02:12:40.560 --> 02:12:43.095 kids and also to issue first aid courses 02:12:43.119 --> 02:12:46.119 to some play groups. So every cent was 02:12:46.960 --> 02:12:49.816 really spent really well and stretched a 02:12:49.840 --> 02:12:51.896 long long way to support our community. 02:12:51.920 --> 02:12:54.296 So, I just want to thank Gary, Brenda, 02:12:54.320 --> 02:12:55.976 and Anita from the shop that put 02:12:56.000 --> 02:12:57.575 together a wonderful awards day 02:12:57.599 --> 02:12:59.336 yesterday and run an amazing local 02:12:59.360 --> 02:13:02.296 business that is um a profit for purpose 02:13:02.320 --> 02:13:05.256 and a major major support for our wider 02:13:05.280 --> 02:13:07.095 community. So, thank you and thank you 02:13:07.119 --> 02:13:09.896 for the opportunity, Mayor M, for 02:13:09.920 --> 02:13:11.816 attending on your behalf. 02:13:11.840 --> 02:13:13.256 Thank you, Councelor Jay, for 02:13:13.280 --> 02:13:15.896 representing me and also representing a 02:13:15.920 --> 02:13:17.736 fabulous community organization within 02:13:17.760 --> 02:13:19.736 your ward, the South Melbourne Ward. Are 02:13:19.760 --> 02:13:21.736 there any other counselors that wish to 02:13:21.760 --> 02:13:23.816 provide a delegate report for this 02:13:23.840 --> 02:13:26.840 evening? 02:13:28.239 --> 02:13:30.296 All right. 02:13:30.320 --> 02:13:33.320 In which case, item 16, urgent 02:13:34.079 --> 02:13:35.736 business. Councilors, do we have any 02:13:35.760 --> 02:13:38.695 items of urgent business at 5 minutes to 02:13:38.719 --> 02:13:41.719 9? 02:13:42.239 --> 02:13:45.239 No urgent items of business. And that 02:13:45.840 --> 02:13:48.695 takes us to item 17, confidential 02:13:48.719 --> 02:13:50.456 matters. There are no confidential 02:13:50.480 --> 02:13:53.480 reports listed on the tonight's agenda. 02:13:54.639 --> 02:13:57.095 So in that case, there being no further 02:13:57.119 --> 02:14:00.119 business, I declare this meeting closed. 02:14:01.840 --> 02:14:03.976 we'll be back here in a fortnight's 02:14:04.000 --> 02:14:06.456 time. So same time, same location. We'll 02:14:06.480 --> 02:14:07.976 see you hopefully here in two weeks 02:14:08.000 --> 02:14:10.296 time. It's been 15 years since I've 02:14:10.320 --> 02:14:12.055 chaired my last meeting. So, apologies 02:14:12.079 --> 02:14:14.456 if it's a bit rusty tonight, but good 02:14:14.480 --> 02:14:16.376 to be in the chair. So, thank you and 02:14:16.400 --> 02:14:18.215 look forward to seeing you in two weeks 02:14:18.239 --> 02:14:21.239 time. Have a lovely evening.