WEBVTT 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:02.456 It is 6:30 p.m. and time to begin 00:00:02.480 --> 00:00:04.856 tonight's council meeting. Thank you to 00:00:04.880 --> 00:00:06.376 members of the gallery for your 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:09.016 attendance tonight and welcome to 00:00:09.040 --> 00:00:10.776 tonight's meeting of Port Phillip 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:12.296 Council. 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:14.296 The council, we respectfully acknowledge 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:16.216 the traditional owners and custodians of 00:00:16.240 --> 00:00:18.296 the Kulin Nation. We acknowledge their 00:00:18.320 --> 00:00:20.296 legacy and spiritual connection to the 00:00:20.320 --> 00:00:22.136 land and waterways across the City of 00:00:22.160 --> 00:00:24.136 Port Phillip and pay our heartfelt 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:26.376 respect to their Elders, past, present, 00:00:26.400 --> 00:00:28.216 and emerging. 00:00:28.240 --> 00:00:31.240 and considering our First Nations 00:00:31.840 --> 00:00:33.976 communities as custodians of our land, 00:00:34.000 --> 00:00:37.000 of the history that is evident 00:00:37.280 --> 00:00:39.176 through the cultural connections that 00:00:39.200 --> 00:00:41.576 our First Nations have to our community 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:42.616 and bearing in mind that we are 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:45.176 custodians in our own way in shaping the 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:47.656 future of the City. Let's be mindful of 00:00:47.680 --> 00:00:49.816 the historical connection as we look 00:00:49.840 --> 00:00:51.816 through the prism of the present and 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:53.576 into the future. 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:55.976 Tonight's meeting is being conducted in 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:58.296 a hybrid style and is streamed via 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:00.535 council's webcast page and Facebook 00:01:00.559 --> 00:01:03.256 live. Streams and recordings of council 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:05.016 meetings are copyrighted and cannot be 00:01:05.040 --> 00:01:07.656 altered, reproduced or republished 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:10.056 without the permission of the council. 00:01:10.080 --> 00:01:13.080 If we experience any tech technical diff 00:01:13.119 --> 00:01:15.016 technical difficulties such as me trying 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:17.496 to say those words, we will adjourn the 00:01:17.520 --> 00:01:19.656 meeting for a short time to resolve the 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:21.176 issue. 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:24.135 I'd also like to remind any attendees 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:25.896 and members of the public addressing 00:01:25.920 --> 00:01:28.216 council that you must extend due 00:01:28.240 --> 00:01:30.376 courtesy and respect to council and the 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:32.696 processes under which we operate and 00:01:32.720 --> 00:01:34.216 must take direction from the chair. 00:01:34.240 --> 00:01:37.240 That's me whenever called on to do so. 00:01:37.360 --> 00:01:39.576 Speakers must remain respectful and 00:01:39.600 --> 00:01:41.256 statements or questions must not be 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:44.280 defamatory, offensive or objectionable, 00:01:44.400 --> 00:01:46.536 aimed at embarrassing a counselor or a 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:49.176 member of council staff or relate to a 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:52.055 matter outside the powers of council. 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:54.135 And of course, in the unlikely event of 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:56.375 an emergency, please do follow the 00:01:56.399 --> 00:01:58.375 direction of the emergency wardens and 00:01:58.399 --> 00:02:01.016 the governance staff over there on my 00:02:01.040 --> 00:02:03.016 right. 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:05.176 As we begin tonight's meeting of 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:08.200 council, do we have any formal apologies 00:02:08.399 --> 00:02:10.935 this evening? 00:02:10.959 --> 00:02:13.959 Yes, we have an apology from the Deputy 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:17.176 Mayor and we also 00:02:17.200 --> 00:02:19.736 have an apology from councelor Cunsolo 00:02:19.760 --> 00:02:21.976 who is unfortunately unable to attend 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:24.136 this evening due to a death in her 00:02:24.160 --> 00:02:26.215 immediate family. And we do pass our 00:02:26.239 --> 00:02:29.239 condolences on to councelor Cunsolo, her 00:02:29.599 --> 00:02:31.896 family and her relatives during this 00:02:31.920 --> 00:02:33.736 time. 00:02:33.760 --> 00:02:35.896 Councilors, do we have any further 00:02:35.920 --> 00:02:38.920 apologies? 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:41.976 No further apologies. All right, moving 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:44.855 on to the minutes of our previous 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:47.336 meeting. Councilors, we have circulated 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:49.416 the minutes of the council meeting held 00:02:49.440 --> 00:02:52.215 on the 19th of November, 2025. They've 00:02:52.239 --> 00:02:54.776 been circulated. Are there any questions 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:57.800 regarding those minutes? 00:02:59.519 --> 00:03:01.656 No questions. Therefore, could I please 00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:03.575 have a motion to confirm those minutes? 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:06.135 Thank you, Councelor Crawford. Moved and 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:08.376 seconded, Councelor Halliday. That 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:10.616 motion will be put to a vote. All those 00:03:10.640 --> 00:03:12.536 in favor, 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:15.560 that motion is carried unanimously. 00:03:18.959 --> 00:03:21.959 Brings us now to declarations of 00:03:22.159 --> 00:03:24.376 conflicts of interest. Is there any 00:03:24.400 --> 00:03:26.135 councelor or does anyone have a conflict 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:28.135 of interest in a matter being discussed 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:31.159 at tonight's meeting? Councelor Thomann. 00:03:31.519 --> 00:03:34.519 Yes. having owning our business in 00:03:34.720 --> 00:03:36.696 Barkly Street which is part of the Ackland 00:03:36.720 --> 00:03:39.720 Street precinct I will declare an I 00:03:40.239 --> 00:03:43.239 will abstain from item 11 which will 00:03:44.239 --> 00:03:47.239 discuss the footbas trading fee policy. 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:49.736 So councelor Thomann just to confirm you 00:03:49.760 --> 00:03:51.976 are declaring a material interest in the 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:53.816 footpath trading fee policy. Is that 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:55.176 correct? 00:03:55.200 --> 00:03:57.896 Thank you councelor Thomann that has been 00:03:57.920 --> 00:03:59.896 noted. 00:03:59.920 --> 00:04:01.415 We do have a good news story tonight 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:04.439 before we run into a formal council 00:04:04.799 --> 00:04:06.855 meeting and business and that is a 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:09.879 presentation of an award. 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:12.536 So, a presentation of an award has been 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:14.696 added to tonight's agenda and that is to 00:04:14.720 --> 00:04:16.696 acknowledge the City of Port Phillips 00:04:16.720 --> 00:04:18.696 achievement in receiving the core values 00:04:18.720 --> 00:04:21.016 award for the environment category from 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:22.776 the engagement institute formerly known 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:25.416 as IAP 2 for our community engagement 00:04:25.440 --> 00:04:27.096 and development for the urban forest 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:30.120 strategy 2024 to 2040. I'd now like to 00:04:31.520 --> 00:04:33.656 refer to Dana Pritchard, our manager of 00:04:33.680 --> 00:04:35.336 open space, recreation and community 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:38.360 resilience to please share a few words. 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:44.455 through you, Mayor I'm very proud 00:04:44.479 --> 00:04:46.696 to present this award to council which 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:48.936 recognizes the engagement behind the 00:04:48.960 --> 00:04:51.960 urban forest strategy 2024 to 2040 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:56.120 over 600 people, residents, businesses, 00:04:56.639 --> 00:04:58.776 and environmental groups took part 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:01.800 in an inclusive multi-stage process to 00:05:01.840 --> 00:05:04.056 to develop this strategy. We would 00:05:04.080 --> 00:05:06.615 particularly like to acknowledge council 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:09.096 councelor Heather Cunsolo for her 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:12.120 generosity in hosting the Mayor's roundtable 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:15.240 as the first engagement event as part 00:05:15.440 --> 00:05:17.656 of this project. The engagement then 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:19.336 progressed through a series of workshops 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:21.895 and stakeholder engagements. lots of 00:05:21.919 --> 00:05:23.816 port philipsentric data was shared 00:05:23.840 --> 00:05:25.895 throughout the project which formed the 00:05:25.919 --> 00:05:28.536 basis of all conversations. The approach 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:31.175 assured that we heard from a diverse and 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:33.576 knowledgeable voices in our community 00:05:33.600 --> 00:05:35.576 helping to develop this strategy which 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:38.216 will guide us building a healthy 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:40.455 biodiverse and connected urban forest 00:05:40.479 --> 00:05:42.936 through to 2040. Thank you to everyone 00:05:42.960 --> 00:05:45.416 who contributed to setting the benchmark 00:05:45.440 --> 00:05:47.416 in deep community engagement and 00:05:47.440 --> 00:05:50.440 demonstrating how meaningful engagement 00:05:50.720 --> 00:05:53.576 can turn diverse voices into shared 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:56.600 ownership and lasting impact. Thank you. 00:05:56.639 --> 00:05:58.296 Thank you. And that is an incredible 00:05:58.320 --> 00:06:00.856 accomplishment for the urban forest 00:06:00.880 --> 00:06:02.776 strategy. So congratulations. I believe 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:05.800 we are receiving an award. So 00:06:23.840 --> 00:06:26.840 search takes best photos. 00:06:49.919 --> 00:06:52.919 Hey, dude. 00:06:57.120 --> 00:06:59.656 Let's just acknowledge that award. 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:00.776 This is actually an incredible 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:02.376 accomplishment for that strategy. So, 00:07:02.400 --> 00:07:05.400 congratulations on behalf of council. 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:10.455 And I've just been advised, remember 00:07:10.479 --> 00:07:12.136 how I had that claw that statement 00:07:12.160 --> 00:07:13.256 around in case of technical 00:07:13.280 --> 00:07:14.856 difficulties, we may need to take a 00:07:14.880 --> 00:07:16.776 brief break. I understand we are 00:07:16.800 --> 00:07:18.696 experiencing technical difficulties with 00:07:18.720 --> 00:07:20.536 the webcast. So, we will be pausing 00:07:20.560 --> 00:07:22.376 momentarily as we resolve that. Thank 00:07:22.400 --> 00:07:25.400 you. 00:07:30.960 --> 00:07:32.776 We'll pause for 5 minutes and then 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:35.800 reconvene. 00:07:37.840 --> 00:07:39.336 Apologies for the delay. We're just 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:42.360 sorting out the hybrid technology. 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:43.656 We've gone through a number of 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:44.936 procedural items and we just want to 00:07:44.960 --> 00:07:46.455 make sure with public question time of 00:07:46.479 --> 00:07:49.175 course that the gallery from home is 00:07:49.199 --> 00:07:50.455 able to watch. So we're just sorting 00:07:50.479 --> 00:07:52.536 that out now. Thank you for your 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:54.295 patience while we sorted out those 00:07:54.319 --> 00:07:56.216 technical challenges. We are about to 00:07:56.240 --> 00:07:58.455 embark onto public question time and the 00:07:58.479 --> 00:08:00.376 public participation section of the 00:08:00.400 --> 00:08:02.376 meeting. So we did want to make sure 00:08:02.400 --> 00:08:03.976 the web technologies were working for 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:06.295 that. So apologies for the delay, but 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:08.776 thank you very much for your patience 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:11.800 throughout the time. 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:14.536 As a prelude, we are now up to public 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:17.096 question time and submissions. So, what 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:19.575 we'll be doing now is hearing public 00:08:19.599 --> 00:08:22.136 questions and submissions on report 00:08:22.160 --> 00:08:25.015 items. So, just a reminder that under 00:08:25.039 --> 00:08:27.175 council's governance rules, public 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:30.056 questions can only be asked about items 00:08:30.080 --> 00:08:32.616 not on the agenda. Therefore, public 00:08:32.640 --> 00:08:35.255 questions tonight will be referred to an 00:08:35.279 --> 00:08:37.976 officer for a response. If you are 00:08:38.000 --> 00:08:39.575 speaking to an agenda item, then a 00:08:39.599 --> 00:08:41.815 counselor may wish to take that item up 00:08:41.839 --> 00:08:43.976 on your behalf when council laws 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:46.616 deliberate on that item. Just a 00:08:46.640 --> 00:08:49.096 reminder, and please always bear this in 00:08:49.120 --> 00:08:51.016 mind, members of the public must not 00:08:51.040 --> 00:08:53.576 disclose another individual's personal 00:08:53.600 --> 00:08:55.736 or confidential information such as 00:08:55.760 --> 00:08:57.896 their name, address, or piece of 00:08:57.920 --> 00:09:00.456 information that is not publicly 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:02.056 available and could be considered 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:04.696 private. 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:06.935 Should anyone participating in 00:09:06.959 --> 00:09:08.616 tonight's meeting not take direction 00:09:08.640 --> 00:09:10.776 from the chair, once again that's me, or 00:09:10.800 --> 00:09:12.456 comply with those conditions, then 00:09:12.480 --> 00:09:15.016 council may unfortunately choose to 00:09:15.040 --> 00:09:17.736 remove that person from the meeting. I'd 00:09:17.760 --> 00:09:20.056 also ask attendees to please not 00:09:20.080 --> 00:09:21.656 approach counselors at their desks 00:09:21.680 --> 00:09:23.896 during the meetings. If you do have 00:09:23.920 --> 00:09:25.416 documentation you'd like to share with 00:09:25.440 --> 00:09:27.336 us, please provide that to our 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:29.096 governance team near the door and 00:09:29.120 --> 00:09:31.016 they'll be able to distribute to us that 00:09:31.040 --> 00:09:33.255 to us or you can email that separately 00:09:33.279 --> 00:09:36.279 to us for distribution. So we'll now 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:39.096 delve into 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:42.120 councelor question time and we will be 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:45.399 starting virtually tonight with Claire Mear 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:48.935 if you could please state your 00:09:48.959 --> 00:09:51.016 name and suburb when you before asking 00:09:51.040 --> 00:09:52.375 your question and then jump into the 00:09:52.399 --> 00:09:55.399 question over to you Claire 00:09:55.920 --> 00:09:57.736 thank you thank you for allowing me to 00:09:57.760 --> 00:10:00.696 ask a question this evening Claire Mear St Kilda 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:03.096 when does COP expect to see the 1.5 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:05.255 million promised by Josh Burns If 00:10:05.279 --> 00:10:07.255 council has received this money, where 00:10:07.279 --> 00:10:09.255 in the project are you in upgrading the 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:12.279 current CCTV? Is it true that COP CCTV 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:15.656 is at times functioning through solar 00:10:15.680 --> 00:10:18.456 power? And is that wise considering 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:21.480 Melbourne's unreliable sunshine? 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:23.976 Thank you, Claire, for your question. 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:25.976 Over to Christine Denning, our manager 00:10:26.000 --> 00:10:27.576 of community building and inclusion for 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:30.600 a response. through you mayor 00:10:30.959 --> 00:10:33.959 question 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:35.336 through you Mayor and thank you Claire for 00:10:35.360 --> 00:10:37.096 the question. Council has submitted an 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:38.375 application to the Commonwealth 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:40.456 government regarding the $1.5 million 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:42.296 election commitment. We will share 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:43.815 further information on this as soon as 00:10:43.839 --> 00:10:45.815 it becomes available. At present we're 00:10:45.839 --> 00:10:48.216 in the procurement process for the CCTV 00:10:48.240 --> 00:10:49.976 upgrade and once this process is 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:52.055 complete we'll provide an update on the 00:10:52.079 --> 00:10:54.456 next steps. Council's current CCTV 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:56.616 network operates on main's power. In 00:10:56.640 --> 00:10:58.935 relation to the mobile CCTV unit, our 00:10:58.959 --> 00:11:01.656 understanding that it is primarily 00:11:01.680 --> 00:11:03.176 solar powered, but it can also be 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:05.176 recharged via main's power when 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:07.815 required. Victoria Police manage the 00:11:07.839 --> 00:11:09.736 operation and maintenance of this mobile 00:11:09.760 --> 00:11:12.760 device, including its power supply. 00:11:14.079 --> 00:11:16.375 Thank you for the response next 00:11:16.399 --> 00:11:18.616 question is from Adrian King. If you can 00:11:18.640 --> 00:11:20.296 please start with your name and suburb, 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:23.320 please. Adrian. 00:11:24.640 --> 00:11:27.640 Good evening. Adrian King, Middle Park. 00:11:28.000 --> 00:11:29.976 For the record, I submitted the 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:32.776 following questions two days ago, Monday 00:11:32.800 --> 00:11:35.800 morning, 1st December, 2025. The 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:37.656 following questions are asked in the 00:11:37.680 --> 00:11:39.736 context of the outstanding matter of 00:11:39.760 --> 00:11:41.896 Victoria Police's request for additional 00:11:41.920 --> 00:11:44.375 powers to more effectively police 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:47.336 council land. A matter I understand that 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:49.176 will come back to the council chamber 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:52.136 sometime in the near future. I seek 00:11:52.160 --> 00:11:53.815 replies to the following two questions 00:11:53.839 --> 00:11:55.815 on a granular level. Replies that 00:11:55.839 --> 00:11:58.136 include specific direct reference to the 00:11:58.160 --> 00:12:01.160 local government act 2020. Topic camping 00:12:02.079 --> 00:12:04.296 and encampments currently allowed within 00:12:04.320 --> 00:12:06.456 the City of Port Phillip under local law 00:12:06.480 --> 00:12:09.480 42 sub clause 2. With regard to the 00:12:09.760 --> 00:12:12.760 Local Government Act 2020, the act 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:15.416 please explain the valid legal basis for 00:12:15.440 --> 00:12:18.440 local law 42 specifically sub clause 2 00:12:19.040 --> 00:12:21.176 and specifically why in the council's 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:24.200 opinion local law 42 subclause 2 does 00:12:24.800 --> 00:12:27.800 not contravene nor conflict with one the 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:31.320 overarching act state level legislation 00:12:31.839 --> 00:12:34.216 two the council's legal obligation 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:37.176 regarding its duty of care for the 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:39.896 general public safety. regard relating 00:12:39.920 --> 00:12:42.920 to council land and property. Thank you. 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:45.976 Thank you Adrian for your question. The 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:47.495 response will be provided by Nelly 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:49.016 Montigue, our manager of safety and 00:12:49.040 --> 00:12:50.856 immenity. 00:12:50.880 --> 00:12:52.375 Through you Mayor and thank you for the 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:55.336 question. The local government act 2020 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:57.416 provides councils with a broad framework 00:12:57.440 --> 00:12:59.736 of powers and responsibilities relating 00:12:59.760 --> 00:13:02.216 to public safety. The act enables 00:13:02.240 --> 00:13:04.696 councils to make and enforce local laws 00:13:04.720 --> 00:13:07.576 to protect public safety and amenity. 00:13:07.600 --> 00:13:09.815 The exemptions under the current camping 00:13:09.839 --> 00:13:11.896 local law are designed to balance the 00:13:11.920 --> 00:13:13.976 need to maintain the amenity of public 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:16.296 space while respecting the human rights 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:19.096 of vulnerable persons. All local laws 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:21.736 must be reviewed and approved by legal 00:13:21.760 --> 00:13:24.136 representatives to ensure compliance 00:13:24.160 --> 00:13:27.016 with the Local Government Act 2020 and 00:13:27.040 --> 00:13:29.336 to avoid any conflict with existing 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:32.216 legislation. This occurred most recently 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:35.240 during the 2023 local law review and was 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:37.656 tabled at council prior to the current 00:13:37.680 --> 00:13:40.680 local law coming into place. 00:13:40.800 --> 00:13:43.016 Nearly our next question will be from 00:13:43.040 --> 00:13:45.096 the gallery from Aean Dawson. Come on 00:13:45.120 --> 00:13:48.120 down 00:13:56.160 --> 00:13:57.656 and once again if you could please start 00:13:57.680 --> 00:13:59.255 with your name and suburb and then the 00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:01.016 question. Thank you, Aiman. , good 00:14:01.040 --> 00:14:04.040 evening. Um, my name is Aean Dawson and 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:06.456 I live in St Kilda. I have a few 00:14:06.480 --> 00:14:08.696 questions for you all. 00:14:08.720 --> 00:14:10.216 Um, 00:14:10.240 --> 00:14:12.776 is there now a working protocol with 00:14:12.800 --> 00:14:15.096 Victorian Police and the City of Port 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:17.416 Phip Council and has it been made 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:19.096 public? 00:14:19.120 --> 00:14:22.120 , is there work underway to set up a 00:14:22.560 --> 00:14:25.255 homeless protocol like the one that the 00:14:25.279 --> 00:14:28.279 City of Melbourne has in place? 00:14:28.800 --> 00:14:31.800 is the motion that was tabled on the 00:14:31.920 --> 00:14:34.920 19th of February 2025 to change the 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:38.120 local laws still in consideration? 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:41.976 the submission made by local laws to 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:44.536 the community safety roundt to add 00:14:44.560 --> 00:14:47.560 clause 4A to section 42 of community 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:51.480 amenities local laws 2023 no camping on 00:14:51.920 --> 00:14:54.136 council land. Is this under 00:14:54.160 --> 00:14:55.976 consideration? 00:14:56.000 --> 00:14:59.000 On a different subject, um, is the 00:14:59.040 --> 00:15:01.336 retaining wall on Canterbury Road near 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:03.736 the intersection of Fitzroy Street a 00:15:03.760 --> 00:15:06.055 council responsibility? , at the 00:15:06.079 --> 00:15:08.615 moment the wall is failing. It has props 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:10.536 holding it up and traffic has been 00:15:10.560 --> 00:15:12.456 reduced to one lane which is causing 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:15.416 long delays and bankups bank up cars 00:15:15.440 --> 00:15:18.055 trying to bypass this intersection and 00:15:18.079 --> 00:15:20.375 blocking the surrounding streets. , 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:23.399 what is the timeline to fix this issue? 00:15:23.440 --> 00:15:26.375 Um, and lastly, I'd just like to 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:27.976 thank you all for the work that you've 00:15:28.000 --> 00:15:30.136 all done over the last year. , I've 00:15:30.160 --> 00:15:32.375 been coming to council quite a bit and I 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:33.976 feel that you're actually doing some 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:37.000 really constructive work. So, thank you. 00:15:37.680 --> 00:15:39.736 A response will be provided by Nelly 00:15:39.760 --> 00:15:42.760 Montigue, manager of safety and amenity. 00:15:43.279 --> 00:15:44.375 Through you, Mayor, and thank you for 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:46.935 the question, Aean. I can confirm that 00:15:46.959 --> 00:15:49.576 an operational protocol has been signed 00:15:49.600 --> 00:15:51.896 by police and is planned to be tabled 00:15:51.920 --> 00:15:54.375 publicly at the 10th of December council 00:15:54.399 --> 00:15:56.536 meeting with a recommendation for the 00:15:56.560 --> 00:15:59.560 CEO to sign on behalf of council. This 00:15:59.839 --> 00:16:02.216 protocol is similar to the one in place 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:03.495 in the City of Melbourne that you 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:05.175 referenced. 00:16:05.199 --> 00:16:07.656 Um you mentioned the notice of motion 00:16:07.680 --> 00:16:09.416 from the 19th of February council 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:11.175 meeting um which outlined a range of 00:16:11.199 --> 00:16:13.175 requested changes to the local law for 00:16:13.199 --> 00:16:16.199 examination as tabled at the 21st of May 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:18.296 council meeting. The changes to the 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:20.216 local law outlined in the motion were 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:22.935 assessed and a report presented back to 00:16:22.959 --> 00:16:25.416 council. At that meeting a potential 00:16:25.440 --> 00:16:27.815 amendment for temporary no encampment 00:16:27.839 --> 00:16:29.735 zones was endorsed to go out for 00:16:29.759 --> 00:16:31.896 community consultation which occurred in 00:16:31.920 --> 00:16:34.375 May and June this year. The findings 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:36.375 from this engagement will be presented 00:16:36.399 --> 00:16:39.399 at the council meeting next week. Um you 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:42.615 also mentioned the submission to the 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:45.016 community safety roundt. So at that May 00:16:45.040 --> 00:16:48.040 meeting the roundt report was tabled um 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:50.696 which included examination of a range of 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:52.536 submissions from service providers, 00:16:52.560 --> 00:16:55.336 police um and presented a range of 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:57.976 recommendations around whether changes 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:00.055 um were required to the local law as 00:17:00.079 --> 00:17:01.576 well as things like the operational 00:17:01.600 --> 00:17:03.815 protocol that has also progressed. An 00:17:03.839 --> 00:17:05.655 update on on some of those actions will 00:17:05.679 --> 00:17:08.616 also be provided next week. I'll now 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:10.055 pass to Paul Wood to answer your 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:12.055 question about the wall 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:13.815 and Paul Wood our general manager of 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:15.256 operations. 00:17:15.280 --> 00:17:16.696 thank you for the second question 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:19.015 Aean and through you Mayor. the wall 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:21.175 at Canterbury Road is privately owned 00:17:21.199 --> 00:17:23.175 and has been structurally dee deemed 00:17:23.199 --> 00:17:25.096 structurally unsound and needs to be 00:17:25.120 --> 00:17:27.336 rebuilt. Council's municipal building 00:17:27.360 --> 00:17:29.015 surveyor is responsible for public 00:17:29.039 --> 00:17:31.336 safety and determined due to the 00:17:31.360 --> 00:17:33.015 condition of the wall and its possible 00:17:33.039 --> 00:17:35.015 collapse that the barriers are required 00:17:35.039 --> 00:17:37.496 to maintain public safety. Protective 00:17:37.520 --> 00:17:39.176 barriers were installed on the 25th of 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:41.256 November to ensure public safety while 00:17:41.280 --> 00:17:42.936 the owners corporation worked towards 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:45.176 rebuilding the retaining wall. These 00:17:45.200 --> 00:17:46.696 safety measures necessitate the 00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:48.696 temporary closure of one vehicle lane, 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:51.176 the bike lane, and the footpath. Work is 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:53.336 expected to take approximately 6 months 00:17:53.360 --> 00:17:56.360 until around 8th of May 2026. Detail 00:17:57.200 --> 00:17:58.936 detours will be in place for cyclists 00:17:58.960 --> 00:18:01.015 and pedestrians. The wall is also 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:03.256 Heritage Victoria listed. Um the 00:18:03.280 --> 00:18:04.856 property owners are working closely with 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:06.856 heritage experts to ensure the repair is 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:08.696 done in a way that respects its 00:18:08.720 --> 00:18:11.720 historical value. 00:18:12.320 --> 00:18:15.320 Thank you. we now will move on to 00:18:15.919 --> 00:18:18.919 submissions u 00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:24.440 to council. 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:27.176 So we'll now speak to we'll now move to 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:29.256 our submitters on items on the 00:18:29.280 --> 00:18:32.136 agenda. So once again, a reminder to 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:34.056 exercise due courtesy and respect and 00:18:34.080 --> 00:18:36.056 that you have two minutes to present 00:18:36.080 --> 00:18:38.296 those views. So I'll start with 00:18:38.320 --> 00:18:41.320 speakers to item 10.1, the amendment C 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:44.535 219 port, the South Melbourne 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:47.559 structure plan. Tom Anset, 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:49.976 you have two minutes. Please start once 00:18:50.000 --> 00:18:53.000 again with your name and suburb, please. 00:18:53.679 --> 00:18:55.895 thank you, Tom Anset and S Kilder 00:18:55.919 --> 00:18:57.416 West. 00:18:57.440 --> 00:18:59.015 good evening councilors and council 00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:00.696 officers. Um so I'm a planning 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:02.936 consultant at Urbis and and tonight 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:04.376 I'm here on behalf of our client 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:07.336 Riverly. So Riverly own about 4,300 00:19:07.360 --> 00:19:09.496 square meters of land across nine 00:19:09.520 --> 00:19:10.936 properties within the City Road 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:13.096 Industrial Triangle. 00:19:13.120 --> 00:19:14.775 So on their behalf, we've made a number 00:19:14.799 --> 00:19:16.376 of submissions now in relation to the 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:19.176 South Melbourne structure plan. Um so 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:22.200 submissions focused um on really on the 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:24.296 missed opportunities for this site and I 00:19:24.320 --> 00:19:26.535 think the broader triangle site itself. 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:28.136 So despite some updates made to the 00:19:28.160 --> 00:19:30.136 structure plan, it continues to underdel 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:31.895 on both land uses and built form 00:19:31.919 --> 00:19:34.919 opportunity. In relation to zoning, the 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:36.856 commercial two zone continues to be 00:19:36.880 --> 00:19:38.775 proposed. And we think this undermines 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:40.296 the ability of the site to respond to 00:19:40.320 --> 00:19:42.775 its context, the market conditions, and 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:45.256 of course broader housing policy. The 00:19:45.280 --> 00:19:46.856 site interfaces with residential 00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:49.015 development. It's also located away from 00:19:49.039 --> 00:19:51.655 the main activity center. Restricted 00:19:51.679 --> 00:19:53.416 commercial zoning does not respond to 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:56.440 the site or create orderly planning. We 00:19:57.039 --> 00:19:58.456 have already seen the success of good 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:00.696 mixeduse development such as the hip vy 00:20:00.720 --> 00:20:03.176 hype for ours in York development which 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:05.655 is across the road from our client site. 00:20:05.679 --> 00:20:07.496 We think the area needs more of this. 00:20:07.520 --> 00:20:09.416 Our economic analysis demonstrates that 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:11.496 the triangle site is not required purely 00:20:11.520 --> 00:20:14.056 for commercial purposes. Existing 00:20:14.080 --> 00:20:15.976 commercial twozone land has sufficient 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:17.976 capaCity for the long term within the 00:20:18.000 --> 00:20:20.775 south Melbourne area. In terms of built 00:20:20.799 --> 00:20:22.936 form, the proposed mandatory floor area 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:25.496 ratio for the site is a mix of 5.5 to1 00:20:25.520 --> 00:20:28.135 and 5:1. Our modeling has shown that 00:20:28.159 --> 00:20:30.696 this does not go far enough. An F of at 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:33.720 least 6.5 to1 is required and it must be 00:20:33.760 --> 00:20:35.176 applied consistently to all of the 00:20:35.200 --> 00:20:38.200 sites. I'd like to make a really strong 00:20:38.320 --> 00:20:40.056 point here that we're not asking for a 00:20:40.080 --> 00:20:42.616 20story building on this site. We're 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:44.456 just asking for a feasible development 00:20:44.480 --> 00:20:46.296 outcome that reflects the proposed built 00:20:46.320 --> 00:20:49.256 form controls as they are. 00:20:49.280 --> 00:20:51.015 We're also asking for flexibility in the 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:52.936 zoning that respects its context both 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:55.416 physically and strategically. This is 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:57.176 about creating an opportunity and not 00:20:57.200 --> 00:20:58.696 restricting it. 00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:00.696 Just on time for your time. 00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:02.216 And once again, a reminder that 00:21:02.240 --> 00:21:04.135 councelor may choose to take your 00:21:04.159 --> 00:21:05.816 question up when we pursue that item. 00:21:05.840 --> 00:21:08.840 Our next speaker to 10.1 is Travis Reed. 00:21:13.919 --> 00:21:15.895 Once again, name and suburb and then on 00:21:15.919 --> 00:21:18.535 to your question statement. Thank you. 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:21.015 thanks, Mr. Mayor. Travis Reed, 00:21:21.039 --> 00:21:23.416 South Melbourne. I'm here tonight on 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:25.096 behalf of the Spotlight Group that owns 00:21:25.120 --> 00:21:27.655 properties at 100 Market Street and 111 00:21:27.679 --> 00:21:29.496 Ceile Street, South Melbourne, and we've 00:21:29.520 --> 00:21:31.655 occupied the Market Street site since 00:21:31.679 --> 00:21:33.336 1983. 00:21:33.360 --> 00:21:35.015 The Spotlight Groups work closely with 00:21:35.039 --> 00:21:36.936 council on the formation of the original 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:39.256 structure plan 15 to 20 years ago, 00:21:39.280 --> 00:21:41.176 and we welcome the review by council and 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:43.336 update of the amendment sorry of the 00:21:43.360 --> 00:21:45.736 plan and the amendment 219. 00:21:45.760 --> 00:21:47.256 Specifically on the structure plan, 00:21:47.280 --> 00:21:48.856 we're concerned the proposed uplift in 00:21:48.880 --> 00:21:50.696 housing capaCity earmarked for South 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:52.775 Melbourne is too low. We understand 00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:54.456 there's general alignment on the housing 00:21:54.480 --> 00:21:56.216 targets between council and the state 00:21:56.240 --> 00:21:58.216 government. However, we believe there is 00:21:58.240 --> 00:21:59.576 too much reliance on the additional 00:21:59.600 --> 00:22:01.576 housing being provided in Fisherman's 00:22:01.600 --> 00:22:04.216 Bend. 73% of new homes in the City of 00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:05.256 Port Melbourne are planned for 00:22:05.280 --> 00:22:07.816 Fisherman's Bend and only 5% for South 00:22:07.840 --> 00:22:09.736 Melbourne, which is a major activity 00:22:09.760 --> 00:22:12.535 center with an abundance of jobs, shops, 00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:15.096 public transport facilities. Um, and 00:22:15.120 --> 00:22:16.936 it's a strategic location for housing 00:22:16.960 --> 00:22:19.096 growth. We believe we think the housing 00:22:19.120 --> 00:22:21.416 capaCity proposed for residential land 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:22.856 in South Melbourne, particularly the 00:22:22.880 --> 00:22:25.256 largest sites like our clients, is 00:22:25.280 --> 00:22:26.936 conservative, and it's reflected in the 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:28.856 relatively low floor area ratios 00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:31.880 proposed in C219. 00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:34.856 100 Market Street you'll know as the 00:22:34.880 --> 00:22:36.456 property that accommodates Aldi, Dan, 00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:38.056 Murphy's, and Australia Post. It's a 00:22:38.080 --> 00:22:41.080 large site at 4 a half th000 mters. The 00:22:41.120 --> 00:22:43.576 proposed mandatory floor area. So the 00:22:43.600 --> 00:22:46.600 proposed mandatory floor ratio is 4.5 00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:49.416 to1. This is too low and it will 00:22:49.440 --> 00:22:51.895 constrain meaningful change on the site. 00:22:51.919 --> 00:22:54.056 Sites immediately adjoining the property 00:22:54.080 --> 00:22:57.080 have ratios of 5.5 to1 and 6:1. The 00:22:58.000 --> 00:22:59.976 group's other property at 111 Ceil 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:02.456 Street directly opposite this property 00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:05.480 has a ratio of 6.1. The permit approved 00:23:06.080 --> 00:23:07.816 for the future development of 80 CEL 00:23:07.840 --> 00:23:09.655 Street diagonal opposite our site has a 00:23:09.679 --> 00:23:12.679 floor ratio of 6.7 to1. the property 00:23:12.960 --> 00:23:15.576 frankly is feeling left out. So we're 00:23:15.600 --> 00:23:17.976 seeking to have a comparable F applied 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:21.000 to the site of 6.1. Um Mr. Mayor, I'm 00:23:21.679 --> 00:23:23.096 going to um is it possible to speak for 00:23:23.120 --> 00:23:24.535 another 30 seconds and wrap up? Then 00:23:24.559 --> 00:23:27.096 we are at time unfortunately but any 00:23:27.120 --> 00:23:30.120 further comments forward. 00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:33.416 Right. Thanks Mr. 00:23:33.440 --> 00:23:36.440 Thank you. 00:23:37.360 --> 00:23:40.360 Final speaker on this item is Sahil Hua. 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:44.056 if you could please come forward and 00:23:44.080 --> 00:23:47.080 start with your name and suburb please. 00:23:47.679 --> 00:23:49.015 Thank you for the opportunity to speak. 00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:51.976 Selucha, South Melbourne. I am the 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:54.535 owner of 108 110 Park Street which is 00:23:54.559 --> 00:23:56.376 directly impacted by the proposal to 00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:58.775 reszone the adjoining property at 106 00:23:58.799 --> 00:24:01.736 Park Street to MUZ while leaving mine as 00:24:01.760 --> 00:24:04.135 NRZ. This creates an immediate and 00:24:04.159 --> 00:24:06.535 material planning disadvantage. 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:08.296 Intensification next door will directly 00:24:08.320 --> 00:24:10.456 affect privacy, security, amenity, and 00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:12.535 overshadowing. All of which are core 00:24:12.559 --> 00:24:14.376 considerations under Victorian planning 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:16.775 principles. My earlier submission was 00:24:16.799 --> 00:24:18.856 dismissed due to the small lot size of 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:21.255 my property. However, both the zoning 00:24:21.279 --> 00:24:23.015 anomalies report and the strategic 00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:24.775 planning department acknowledged the 00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:27.255 small lot size of 106 Park Street as 00:24:27.279 --> 00:24:29.976 well. The justification that 106 can be 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:32.135 combined with 102-104 00:24:32.159 --> 00:24:33.655 Park Street to make it bigger and 00:24:33.679 --> 00:24:36.216 reszone because of common ownership is 00:24:36.240 --> 00:24:38.056 not a valid planning rational under the 00:24:38.080 --> 00:24:40.135 planning and environmental act or the 00:24:40.159 --> 00:24:43.159 state planning policy framework. 102- 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:45.576 104 Park Street and 106 Park Street are 00:24:45.600 --> 00:24:47.576 separate lots. Ownership does not 00:24:47.600 --> 00:24:49.336 determine zoning outcomes. Planning 00:24:49.360 --> 00:24:51.736 context does. The relevant planning 00:24:51.760 --> 00:24:53.576 conditions here include interface 00:24:53.600 --> 00:24:55.736 conditions, street frontage alignment, 00:24:55.760 --> 00:24:58.056 adjoining line content, transition 00:24:58.080 --> 00:25:00.056 management. On all of these factors, 00:25:00.080 --> 00:25:02.616 108-110 Park Street share the same 00:25:02.640 --> 00:25:05.096 interface, frontage, and context as 106 00:25:05.120 --> 00:25:08.120 Park Street. Reszoning one to MUZ and 00:25:08.159 --> 00:25:11.096 not the other is inconsistent and risks 00:25:11.120 --> 00:25:13.255 the creating the very zoning anomalies 00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:15.976 this amendment is intended to fix. For 00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:17.655 this reason, I respectfully request the 00:25:17.679 --> 00:25:20.679 committee either reszone 108-11 Park 00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:23.015 Street to Mus to maintain consistency 00:25:23.039 --> 00:25:25.576 and fairness or refrain from reszoning 00:25:25.600 --> 00:25:27.976 106 Park Street in isolation as doing so 00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:30.535 would introduce inconsistency and create 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:32.775 unreasonable and imject impacts on my 00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:35.576 property. Um, I support the reasoning 00:25:35.600 --> 00:25:37.736 but not in isolation. Thank you for 00:25:37.760 --> 00:25:39.496 considering my submission. 00:25:39.520 --> 00:25:41.496 Thank you very much. 00:25:41.520 --> 00:25:44.456 We now have two speakers in relation to 00:25:44.480 --> 00:25:46.696 IT team 14.1. That's the notice of 00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:48.696 motion submitted by councelor Thomann in 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:50.775 relation to jet skis in the silder 00:25:50.799 --> 00:25:53.799 harour. We'll start with Simon Lewis. 00:25:54.559 --> 00:25:57.559 Come on down. 00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:00.296 Two minutes starting with your name and 00:26:00.320 --> 00:26:01.416 suburb. Thank you. 00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:04.440 Simon Lewis Silda. Um I would just 00:26:04.640 --> 00:26:05.655 acknowledge that I'm a member of the 00:26:05.679 --> 00:26:08.216 Sincla life saving club and I was on the 00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:09.816 stakeholder reference committee for the 00:26:09.840 --> 00:26:12.840 Silda build. 14.1 is a very timely 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:16.696 process that's a it is water safety week 00:26:16.720 --> 00:26:19.176 in Victoria and Lifo Victoria has just 00:26:19.200 --> 00:26:21.416 released its annual drowning report. 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:23.576 I've done over about 1500 hours on the 00:26:23.600 --> 00:26:25.736 beach over 11 years and I've seen the 00:26:25.760 --> 00:26:28.535 increased behavior. I'm in favor of 00:26:28.559 --> 00:26:31.015 this motion that City of Port Phillip 00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:33.416 has done many strategies and we are 00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:36.216 looking to um increase it with life 00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:38.535 saving Victoria and Sig life-saving 00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:41.416 club. Um Sigilla lifesaving club does 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:44.440 actually patrol the pier. Um it is a 00:26:44.880 --> 00:26:47.015 fallacy that parks Victoria and City of 00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:48.775 Port Philip. City of Port Philip offices 00:26:48.799 --> 00:26:50.775 in local laws do share intelligence with 00:26:50.799 --> 00:26:53.799 us that allows us to resource assets to 00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:56.616 use the water police as well as our 00:26:56.640 --> 00:26:58.856 assets in our water rescue safety 00:26:58.880 --> 00:27:01.816 boat um to go in there to go and 00:27:01.840 --> 00:27:04.456 interdict or um gain intelligence to 00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:07.336 pass on to police. This motion is 00:27:07.360 --> 00:27:10.360 very timely because we are increasingly 00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:13.559 seeing gaps between the marina and South 00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:16.216 Melbourne Life Saving Club in that area 00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:19.176 where jet ski owners are increasingly 00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:21.416 coming down approaching women and um 00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:23.736 taking them for rides and and allegedly 00:27:23.760 --> 00:27:26.456 doing certain things. Um so we are 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.255 increasingly gaining this 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:31.576 intelligence that around that we would 00:27:31.600 --> 00:27:33.416 like to work with the City of Port 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:36.440 Phillip um and um focus on a new 00:27:37.120 --> 00:27:38.616 strategy. There was a summer safety 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:41.496 meeting which councelor um Crawford 00:27:41.520 --> 00:27:44.456 attended which we're encouraged that 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:46.056 there is strategies through the 00:27:46.080 --> 00:27:48.535 council offices going forward. I'd just 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:51.496 like to promote that this item um 00:27:51.520 --> 00:27:54.135 should be adopted by council and is a 00:27:54.159 --> 00:27:55.736 step forward. 00:27:55.760 --> 00:27:58.760 Thank you, Simon. We now have a speaker 00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:01.255 online speaking to that same item. 00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:04.279 Richard Madison, are you there? 00:28:05.120 --> 00:28:06.296 yes, Mayor. 00:28:06.320 --> 00:28:06.856 Thank you. 00:28:06.880 --> 00:28:09.336 So, my name is Richard Madison. I 00:28:09.360 --> 00:28:10.775 live in Port Melbourne and I work in 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:12.775 Silda. 00:28:12.799 --> 00:28:14.216 I am the general manager of the Royal 00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.056 Melbourne Yacht Squadron and I'm 00:28:16.080 --> 00:28:18.296 speaking in support of item 14.1 on 00:28:18.320 --> 00:28:21.255 today's agenda. Council Fman's motion to 00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.015 ban the use of personal watercraft from 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:25.096 Secura Harbor. 00:28:25.120 --> 00:28:26.936 By way of background and to refute any 00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:28.056 claims that this might be seen as 00:28:28.080 --> 00:28:30.616 nimism, I've previously served in 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:32.135 command positions in both the Royal 00:28:32.159 --> 00:28:34.856 Australian Navy and the Merchant Navy 00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:36.535 and owned and operated a maritime 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:38.375 training business that amongst other 00:28:38.399 --> 00:28:39.655 things trained a number of law 00:28:39.679 --> 00:28:41.176 enforcement agencies in the use of 00:28:41.200 --> 00:28:43.736 high-speed personal watercraft. 00:28:43.760 --> 00:28:45.255 In all, I have over 50 years of 00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:47.176 experience in maritime operations, 00:28:47.200 --> 00:28:48.775 ranging from the largest of warships 00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:51.799 down to the small tinies and PWC's. 00:28:52.559 --> 00:28:54.616 Working at St Kilda Harour, I see on an 00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:56.616 almost daily basis the risk created by 00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.015 personal watercraft being operated in 00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:01.816 close proximity to swimmers, young learn 00:29:01.840 --> 00:29:03.496 to sail children, stand up paddle 00:29:03.520 --> 00:29:06.520 boarders, and our little penguins. 00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:08.535 Unfortunately, I have also seen the 00:29:08.559 --> 00:29:10.296 results of what happens when an out of 00:29:10.320 --> 00:29:13.320 control PWC contacts a human body. It 00:29:13.840 --> 00:29:15.655 isn't nice and I don't want to have to 00:29:15.679 --> 00:29:17.976 see that again. But fear I will in the 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:19.976 not too distant future unless we make 00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:23.000 changes to PWC operational areas. 00:29:23.520 --> 00:29:25.096 Specifically, I'd like to point out that 00:29:25.120 --> 00:29:26.936 the human body is like an iceberg when 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:29.895 immersed in water. 99% of it is below 00:29:29.919 --> 00:29:32.456 the surface and is the most vulnerable 00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:34.616 component, the head is generally all 00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:36.456 that is above water. 00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:38.535 Now, I've gone gray over the years, so 00:29:38.559 --> 00:29:40.775 my hair actually stands out a bit. But a 00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:42.216 dark head person blends into the 00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:45.015 background and the water. And at the 00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:46.775 speed of a PWC, which is around 100 00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:49.799 km/h, you travel over 25 m per second. 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:52.535 It's not a lot of time to react to 00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:54.696 someone who's in the water. And 00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:56.216 unfortunately, a lot of operators don't 00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:58.216 realize or simply forget when they panic 00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:01.240 that a PWC requires power to steer. 00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:03.416 There are plenty of places around Port 00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:05.496 Philip Bay for PWC operators. 00:30:05.520 --> 00:30:07.255 Restricting them from secure harbor is 00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:08.775 only reducing their activity zone by 00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:11.096 less than 1/100,000th of the area of the 00:30:11.120 --> 00:30:13.895 bay. But if it saves one life or stops 00:30:13.919 --> 00:30:15.336 someone from being seriously injured, it 00:30:15.360 --> 00:30:16.616 will be worth it. Thank you. 00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:18.456 Thank you. And we're at time. So, thank 00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:20.936 you, Richard. 00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:23.576 We did have one final question submitted 00:30:23.600 --> 00:30:25.416 tonight, but I'm advised that speaker 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:27.816 has not joined us online. So, a response 00:30:27.840 --> 00:30:30.840 will be provided in writing. 00:30:31.840 --> 00:30:33.736 Now, , councelor question time. 00:30:33.760 --> 00:30:35.655 Councilors, do you have any questions 00:30:35.679 --> 00:30:37.576 that you'd like to raise for matters not 00:30:37.600 --> 00:30:39.655 on the agenda? Starting with councelor 00:30:39.679 --> 00:30:42.456 Thomann. 00:30:42.480 --> 00:30:44.135 So, I've got two questions. The first 00:30:44.159 --> 00:30:47.159 question is as a follow-up of Iman's 00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:50.279 concern on Canbury Road. Um at the 00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:52.775 moment you know one of the complexity 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:55.799 of the traffic there and the you know is 00:30:56.080 --> 00:30:59.080 that between I think it's 4:30 and 6:00 00:30:59.840 --> 00:31:01.895 most of the streets that are the 00:31:01.919 --> 00:31:04.056 closest to Fitro Street actually have 00:31:04.080 --> 00:31:06.616 got a no right turn. so which means 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:09.336 that basically either the cars go 00:31:09.360 --> 00:31:11.336 through and wait for a long time. 00:31:11.360 --> 00:31:12.535 actually was stuck there for half an 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:14.856 hour a couple of days ago or people 00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:17.816 actually you know don't respect road 00:31:17.840 --> 00:31:20.135 rules. So I understand why the road 00:31:20.159 --> 00:31:23.015 rules are there to so there's so not so 00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:24.856 many people actually drive into Sila 00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.880 West but um would it be how could we 00:31:28.320 --> 00:31:30.535 potentially remove these restrictions 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:33.559 while the road is only one lane to 00:31:33.600 --> 00:31:36.216 make it to for the traffic to be more 00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.056 fluid? 00:31:38.080 --> 00:31:39.576 Thank you councelor Timman for your 00:31:39.600 --> 00:31:41.015 question. I believe that'll be answered 00:31:41.039 --> 00:31:44.039 by Paul Wood or Brian T. There's a bit 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:46.456 of back and forth. 00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:49.096 I'm sure together we'll be able to 00:31:49.120 --> 00:31:51.576 assist Mayor. Um and thank you 00:31:51.600 --> 00:31:54.600 councelor for your question. Um the 00:31:55.039 --> 00:31:57.495 issue around 00:31:57.519 --> 00:32:00.519 the congestion that um has been caused 00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:04.216 has been an issue that um officers 00:32:04.240 --> 00:32:07.015 working with the the state government 00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:09.576 authorities um have considered. We've 00:32:09.600 --> 00:32:12.216 had a look at a number of options 00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:14.535 understanding that this congestion 00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:16.775 that this closure of the lane would 00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:19.799 result in significant congestion. 00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.096 Um I'm confident that we've um 00:32:23.120 --> 00:32:25.895 considered the option that you um have 00:32:25.919 --> 00:32:27.976 just outlined, but let me take that on 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.775 notice and just make sure that we 00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:33.336 haven't missed anything in um trying to 00:32:33.360 --> 00:32:36.135 minimize the impact that this inevitable 00:32:36.159 --> 00:32:39.159 closure will have on our community. 00:32:39.840 --> 00:32:41.416 Thank you. Did you have a second 00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:42.775 question, councelor Thomann? 00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.416 Yes, but I did have I did have a 00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:48.440 second question. Um about you know a 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.015 year ago I had an office of motion talk 00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:53.655 about the council to looking looking 00:32:53.679 --> 00:32:56.679 at what's happening with the fountain 00:32:56.960 --> 00:32:58.856 in the middle of the garden there and 00:32:58.880 --> 00:33:00.936 I would just like if we can have an 00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:03.960 update on where we are at as I kept 00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:07.336 asked regularly and the other point I 00:33:07.360 --> 00:33:09.976 like to make is that you know it be 00:33:10.000 --> 00:33:11.655 even if obviously it hasn't been 00:33:11.679 --> 00:33:14.056 repaired it would be I suggest that we 00:33:14.080 --> 00:33:16.775 sort of clear the water more regularly 00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:19.799 and stuff so we don't set bombard but by 00:33:21.760 --> 00:33:24.760 v by snap send and solve on a 00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:27.655 regular basis. 00:33:27.679 --> 00:33:28.936 Thank you for your question. I believe a 00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:30.856 response will be provided by Vicki 00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:33.880 manager of property and assets 00:33:33.919 --> 00:33:35.336 through you Mayor. Thank you councelor 00:33:35.360 --> 00:33:37.096 Thomann for that question. Um the 00:33:37.120 --> 00:33:38.856 O'Donnell memorial fountain is an 00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:40.696 important heritage asset for the City of 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:43.255 Port Phillip and a centerpiece within 00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:45.096 the popular O'Donnell Gardens in St 00:33:45.120 --> 00:33:47.576 Kilda. Officers are currently preparing 00:33:47.600 --> 00:33:50.600 feasibility options and associated costs 00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:53.255 to restore the Edward O'Donnell fountain 00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:54.856 and will present options for 00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:57.015 consideration as part of the annual 00:33:57.039 --> 00:33:59.576 budgeting process. In the interim 00:33:59.600 --> 00:34:00.856 though, it is important that the 00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.336 fountain presents well and we recognize 00:34:03.360 --> 00:34:05.895 that with the recent rain, the fountain 00:34:05.919 --> 00:34:07.976 has filled with water and we are working 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:10.296 with our contractors to drain this water 00:34:10.320 --> 00:34:13.320 and clear the fountain. 00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:15.496 Thank you. Any further questions from 00:34:15.520 --> 00:34:18.135 councilors? Councelor Halliday. 00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:21.159 thank you, Mayor. Aean asked um 00:34:21.839 --> 00:34:24.055 about the motion from the 19th of 00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:27.079 February. Can I just clarify here that 00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:30.599 the the change to the local law proposed 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:33.496 by that motion is no longer under 00:34:33.520 --> 00:34:36.456 consideration by council and has been 00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:38.375 superseded by the work that has been 00:34:38.399 --> 00:34:40.296 done around the designated places. Is 00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:42.776 that correct? 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:44.855 No encampment zones. 00:34:44.879 --> 00:34:46.696 Over to Nelly Montigu, our manager of 00:34:46.720 --> 00:34:48.536 safety and amenity for a response. Thank 00:34:48.560 --> 00:34:49.016 you. 00:34:49.040 --> 00:34:50.216 Through you, ma'am. Thank you for the 00:34:50.240 --> 00:34:52.536 question. To clarify, the papers tabled 00:34:52.560 --> 00:34:55.176 on the 21st of May outlined a range of 00:34:55.200 --> 00:34:57.176 work that officers had done in response 00:34:57.200 --> 00:34:59.256 to that notice of motion that outlined a 00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:02.280 range of changes that to be investigated 00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:04.376 um with a recommendation that those 00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.400 changes were not progressed and that a 00:35:07.839 --> 00:35:10.776 alternative option was provided. that 00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.256 was supported by a motion of council as 00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:15.176 outlined in the minutes and that has 00:35:15.200 --> 00:35:17.176 been what officers have been um directed 00:35:17.200 --> 00:35:20.200 to do from that meeting and further the 00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:22.376 community engagement on that new 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:24.296 recommendation has then taken place and 00:35:24.320 --> 00:35:25.896 will be tabled next week. So I can 00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:28.776 clarify that the guidance at that 21st 00:35:28.800 --> 00:35:31.575 of May meeting was not to progress any 00:35:31.599 --> 00:35:34.536 more work on those exact changes instead 00:35:34.560 --> 00:35:36.296 to focus on a different element of 00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:38.055 change to achieve community safety 00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:41.079 outcomes. Any further questions from 00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:45.079 councilors? 00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:50.216 Councelor Hard. Sorry, one one last 00:35:50.240 --> 00:35:52.376 question. Thank you, ma'am. Um there 00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:54.136 was a question also about CC operations 00:35:54.160 --> 00:35:57.160 and we often see um commentary about our 00:35:58.240 --> 00:36:01.240 CCTV um you know network being down at 00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:05.320 different times or you know um afflicted 00:36:05.520 --> 00:36:08.520 by solar power failures. Um, is there is 00:36:09.359 --> 00:36:11.736 there publicly available reporting about 00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:14.616 the operational status of our CCTV 00:36:14.640 --> 00:36:17.640 network? 00:36:19.280 --> 00:36:21.656 A response from Chris Carroll, our CEO. 00:36:21.680 --> 00:36:24.055 Three may I have to take on notice what 00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:27.079 we're publicly reporting. We do have a 00:36:27.680 --> 00:36:30.456 regime of weekly status reporting with 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:33.480 our contractors internally um with any 00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:36.936 00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:39.815 remediation work completed um quickly 00:36:39.839 --> 00:36:42.839 post any findings. Generally the the 00:36:43.040 --> 00:36:44.856 system is up and running continuously 00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:47.016 but like any system it will require some 00:36:47.040 --> 00:36:50.040 maintenance from time to time. um to 00:36:50.720 --> 00:36:53.335 consider whether if we don't already 00:36:53.359 --> 00:36:54.776 make some of that public. I'll just 00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:57.095 consider whether that's a would be a 00:36:57.119 --> 00:37:00.119 wise thing to do. Anyway, 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:04.616 any final final final questions from 00:37:04.640 --> 00:37:07.640 counselors? 00:37:09.040 --> 00:37:10.296 I'm going to take that silence. There's 00:37:10.320 --> 00:37:12.616 no further questions. That takes us on 00:37:12.640 --> 00:37:15.256 to section six, petitions, joint 00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:17.256 letters, and deputations. and 00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:19.736 councilors. Tonight we have our first 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:22.760 deputation on tonight's agenda and that 00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:25.880 item is 6.1 a deputation on community 00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:27.976 safety in church and D Street South 00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:29.976 Melbourne. So I'll now call on Mark 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:33.000 Stefanic to speak to the deputation. As 00:37:33.200 --> 00:37:36.200 Mark is coming to the gallery, I just 00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:39.335 want to remind everyone that any member 00:37:39.359 --> 00:37:41.176 of the public addressing council must 00:37:41.200 --> 00:37:42.776 extend due courtesy and respect to 00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:44.776 council and the processes under which it 00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:47.335 operates. And also a reminder that 00:37:47.359 --> 00:37:49.095 speakers must remain respectful at all 00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.575 time in terms and must not be 00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:53.656 defamatory, offensive or objectionable 00:37:53.680 --> 00:37:55.176 aimed at embarrassing a counselor, a 00:37:55.200 --> 00:37:57.176 member of council staff or another 00:37:57.200 --> 00:37:58.536 member of the public or relate to a 00:37:58.560 --> 00:38:00.616 matter outside council's the powers of 00:38:00.640 --> 00:38:03.496 council. And also a reminder and part of 00:38:03.520 --> 00:38:05.256 the reason we're going through this is 00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:07.256 first time we've brought deputations to 00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:09.896 council. Speakers must also must not 00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:12.456 disclose another individual's personal 00:38:12.480 --> 00:38:14.616 or confidential information such as a 00:38:14.640 --> 00:38:16.296 name, address, or any other piece of 00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:17.976 information that is not publicly 00:38:18.000 --> 00:38:21.000 available and is considered private. So 00:38:21.920 --> 00:38:24.216 Mark, , if you could begin by stating 00:38:24.240 --> 00:38:26.055 your name and suburb and a reminder that 00:38:26.079 --> 00:38:28.216 you have up to 5 minutes to speak to the 00:38:28.240 --> 00:38:30.376 deputation. And also just for 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:32.216 counselors, this is a new addition to 00:38:32.240 --> 00:38:35.095 our council agendas. As per section 59 00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.256 of the governance rules, no motion must 00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:39.496 be allowed on any deputation until at 00:38:39.520 --> 00:38:41.416 least the next council meeting after the 00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:43.416 deputation has been heard. Over to you, 00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:46.440 Mark. You have up to 5 minutes. 00:38:55.680 --> 00:38:56.616 Better now. 00:38:56.640 --> 00:38:58.136 And also start with your name and 00:38:58.160 --> 00:38:59.016 suburb, please. 00:38:59.040 --> 00:39:01.656 Sure. My name is Mark Stefan. I live 00:39:01.680 --> 00:39:03.575 on Church Street in South Melbourne. So 00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:05.656 yeah, good evening 00:39:05.680 --> 00:39:08.456 Mayor, counselors, staff and 00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:09.976 guests this evening to hear this 00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:12.776 deputation. Um 00:39:12.800 --> 00:39:15.335 before I kick off to your point, I 00:39:15.359 --> 00:39:17.016 understand the deputation is new and I 00:39:17.040 --> 00:39:18.776 was told before I came here this evening 00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:20.776 that um I may or may not get the 00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:22.536 opportunity to to speak. So I prepared 00:39:22.560 --> 00:39:24.696 some brief notes, but I found out on the 00:39:24.720 --> 00:39:26.936 way in that we have 5 minutes. So I and 00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:29.496 having thought about that, I'd sooner um 00:39:29.520 --> 00:39:30.936 an understanding that no decisions could 00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:32.776 be made tonight, no discussion tonight, 00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:35.335 but certainly welcome your questions on 00:39:35.359 --> 00:39:38.359 what I'll talk to. prior to that, I 00:39:38.400 --> 00:39:40.055 prepared a briefing note for councilors 00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:42.055 and the Mayor, which I sent on late 00:39:42.079 --> 00:39:44.776 Monday evening. Um I don't expected you 00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:46.696 to have read that. Um but I certainly 00:39:46.720 --> 00:39:48.536 encourage you to read that um because it 00:39:48.560 --> 00:39:50.376 certainly provides more context to what 00:39:50.400 --> 00:39:52.856 I'll talk to. Promised two years, 00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:54.856 residents in Church and Dow Street have 00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:57.016 experienced escalating safety issues, 00:39:57.040 --> 00:39:59.095 repeated break-ins, repeated home 00:39:59.119 --> 00:40:01.815 entries, car thefts, drugrelated 00:40:01.839 --> 00:40:04.136 behavior in the streets and laneways, 00:40:04.160 --> 00:40:06.616 physical assaults, and serious nighttime 00:40:06.640 --> 00:40:09.640 risks. Ultimately, we previously warned 00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:12.616 that it was only a matter of time before 00:40:12.640 --> 00:40:15.256 someone was killed. 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:17.815 Dow street is extremely poorly lit and 00:40:17.839 --> 00:40:19.736 that's been acknowledged by council and 00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:21.095 as a result there has become a thorough 00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:23.416 affair for people avoiding main streets 00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:25.575 and other well-lit streets like Park 00:40:25.599 --> 00:40:28.216 Street and Napia that are parallel. Dow 00:40:28.240 --> 00:40:30.536 street intersects and discharges onto 00:40:30.560 --> 00:40:32.376 Church Street and hence why we see the 00:40:32.400 --> 00:40:35.016 issues in both streets. Earlier this 00:40:35.040 --> 00:40:37.736 year during a police pursuit down Dow 00:40:37.760 --> 00:40:40.760 Street, a lady was fatally shot. This 00:40:41.040 --> 00:40:43.095 occurred on a weekend within about 50 00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:45.896 meters of the South Melbourne party room 00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:48.136 where hundreds of children and parents 00:40:48.160 --> 00:40:49.496 attend birthday parties and 00:40:49.520 --> 00:40:52.055 celebrations. Now, the party room was 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.016 unusually closed on this day. The 00:40:55.040 --> 00:40:57.016 shooting was witnessed at close range by 00:40:57.040 --> 00:40:58.536 residents. 00:40:58.560 --> 00:41:00.696 The Channel 7 report that followed used 00:41:00.720 --> 00:41:02.856 local resident security camera footage 00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:04.456 which shows years of antisocial 00:41:04.480 --> 00:41:07.480 behavior, breakins, car breakins, drug 00:41:07.680 --> 00:41:10.680 activity, and other crimes. Our request 00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:13.800 to council is simple. Improve lighting 00:41:13.920 --> 00:41:16.920 on DAO and Church Street. CCTV all the 00:41:17.359 --> 00:41:19.416 equivalent deterrence. 00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:21.416 Improved amenity in DAO and in 00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:24.216 particular the laneways off DA. 00:41:24.240 --> 00:41:25.736 And lastly, an on-site meeting with 00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:27.815 council Victoria Police and residents to 00:41:27.839 --> 00:41:30.536 enable a joint response. 00:41:30.560 --> 00:41:33.256 Again, I understand decisions um and 00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:35.335 discussions can't happen this evening, 00:41:35.359 --> 00:41:37.016 but I will aim to answer the questions 00:41:37.040 --> 00:41:38.776 that you have and where I cannot, I'd 00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:40.936 like to take your question on notice and 00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:43.815 come back to you all. All with the view 00:41:43.839 --> 00:41:45.335 that I'm hopeful at the next council 00:41:45.359 --> 00:41:47.095 meeting we can begin that coordinated 00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:49.335 response. Thank you. 00:41:49.359 --> 00:41:50.776 Thank you, Mark, and thank you for being 00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:52.216 our first deputation under a new 00:41:52.240 --> 00:41:54.696 governance rules as well. We do have the 00:41:54.720 --> 00:41:56.295 opt we do have the opportunity for 00:41:56.319 --> 00:41:58.456 clarifying questions. So, , do 00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:00.616 councilors or council officers have any 00:42:00.640 --> 00:42:02.616 clarifying questions for Mark this 00:42:02.640 --> 00:42:04.456 evening in relation to the deputation? 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.480 Councelor Jay, starting with you. 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.136 Um, thank you, Mark. I'm the South 00:42:10.160 --> 00:42:11.815 Melbourne Ward Counselor. I'm very 00:42:11.839 --> 00:42:13.575 familiar with the area and I'm familiar 00:42:13.599 --> 00:42:15.575 with the issues there. I will take these 00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:18.599 on immediately. Um, my question to you 00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.416 is, how long have you lived there and 00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:23.416 what changes have you seen in that time? 00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:25.496 because I've been in the area 20 years. 00:42:25.520 --> 00:42:27.896 So I want to know your lived experience. 00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:30.776 Yeah, sure. Um, so I've lived in Church 00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:33.800 Street for the past 5 years. Um, and 00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:36.696 certainly myself and probably speaking 00:42:36.720 --> 00:42:39.176 on behalf of residents, we have seen an 00:42:39.200 --> 00:42:41.176 uptick in the last two and a half to 00:42:41.200 --> 00:42:42.936 three years of criminal activity. I 00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:43.815 would have thought the first couple of 00:42:43.839 --> 00:42:45.736 years of I would have thought would be 00:42:45.760 --> 00:42:48.376 fairly safe. Um, that certainly changed 00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:51.400 a lot in the last couple of years. 00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.079 And in in your experience, is it locals? 00:42:55.200 --> 00:42:57.176 Is it people from the outside? Or what's 00:42:57.200 --> 00:42:59.176 caused this? 00:42:59.200 --> 00:43:00.696 Not that not that you know, but 00:43:00.720 --> 00:43:03.016 No. No. And and and and I think fair to 00:43:03.040 --> 00:43:05.416 say we all accept that we live in a 00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:08.440 fairly eclectic area. Um and again, I 00:43:08.560 --> 00:43:11.560 don't wish to 00:43:11.760 --> 00:43:14.216 label um but I feel as though it's 00:43:14.240 --> 00:43:17.240 perhaps locals. Um 00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:20.536 would be my is that that's your question 00:43:20.560 --> 00:43:22.456 is Yeah. say I feel as though it's 00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:23.256 locals in that area. 00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:24.456 Yeah. I I think what I was trying to 00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:26.776 assess is that area there with all that 00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:28.776 housing can attract a lot of outside 00:43:28.800 --> 00:43:30.536 elements. They come there to 00:43:30.560 --> 00:43:32.055 councelor Jay just a reminder this is 00:43:32.079 --> 00:43:34.136 about clarifying questions. So we don't 00:43:34.160 --> 00:43:36.136 want to put speaker in a position where 00:43:36.160 --> 00:43:38.136 they may not be able to answer question. 00:43:38.160 --> 00:43:40.055 I just wanted to understand if it was an 00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:40.936 outside element. 00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:42.856 No I I can so can I could I answer that? 00:43:42.880 --> 00:43:45.880 So when I said that um our street's 00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:47.656 extremely poor lit which council agrees 00:43:47.680 --> 00:43:49.335 and as a result becomes a thorough fair 00:43:49.359 --> 00:43:51.416 for people and I'll say this who don't 00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:53.256 want to be seen on Park Street who don't 00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:55.016 want to be seen on a world street well 00:43:55.040 --> 00:43:57.335 lit street like Napia so they would 00:43:57.359 --> 00:44:00.359 choose Dow Street because it it's poorly 00:44:01.040 --> 00:44:02.856 lit 00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:05.880 no CCTV or no no surveillance 00:44:06.160 --> 00:44:07.815 so I come back to your point I feel as 00:44:07.839 --> 00:44:10.295 though it's local or those visiting 00:44:10.319 --> 00:44:12.936 those local residents like I said, "I 00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:14.696 accept that and we all accept it's 00:44:14.720 --> 00:44:17.720 eclectic. There's a um there's a um not 00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:21.960 a halfway house, but a um housing at the 00:44:22.240 --> 00:44:25.240 end of Dow Street on Ceil. Um and they 00:44:25.520 --> 00:44:27.416 provide a they provide a need a needed 00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.376 service. We accept that. Um but what 00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:33.016 we're looking for is improved lighting, 00:44:33.040 --> 00:44:35.736 improved surveillance and equally happy 00:44:35.760 --> 00:44:37.416 to work with council on other solutions 00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:40.440 that could exist on Dow and Church. 00:44:40.560 --> 00:44:42.136 Thank you. Councelor Crawford, did you 00:44:42.160 --> 00:44:45.160 have a question? 00:44:47.680 --> 00:44:49.095 I'm not in briefings. I need a 00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.176 microphone. Um, we have a lot of streets 00:44:51.200 --> 00:44:53.095 where there is, you know, different 00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:54.936 levels of lighting. One of the things 00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:56.536 that I know we talked about at a 00:44:56.560 --> 00:44:57.976 different street at a different time is 00:44:58.000 --> 00:44:59.815 do you have much sensor lighting on the 00:44:59.839 --> 00:45:01.656 actual houses that actually and in 00:45:01.680 --> 00:45:03.496 alleyways and and has that been 00:45:03.520 --> 00:45:05.176 considered? Not to say that we can't do 00:45:05.200 --> 00:45:07.575 that, but is there opportunity for that 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.496 so that there is much much quicker 00:45:09.520 --> 00:45:11.256 because anything that council does is a 00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:13.176 lot slower and whether and especially 00:45:13.200 --> 00:45:15.416 with City power. Um but whether that's 00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:16.616 something you've considered. 00:45:16.640 --> 00:45:18.216 Yeah, absolutely. Um look, I cannot 00:45:18.240 --> 00:45:20.295 speak on behalf of all residents, 00:45:20.319 --> 00:45:23.095 but what I could speak upon is the 00:45:23.119 --> 00:45:24.856 consensus of the group that there would 00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:27.256 be willingness to invest more in that 00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:29.736 space at a personal level to provide 00:45:29.760 --> 00:45:32.136 that amenity. So again, we are happy to 00:45:32.160 --> 00:45:35.160 work with council to co- facilitate. Um 00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:38.856 yeah, 00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:41.256 any further questions on Mark this 00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:44.280 evening? 00:45:46.720 --> 00:45:48.536 No further questions. Thank you, Mark. 00:45:48.560 --> 00:45:49.896 And thank you once again. This has been 00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:51.335 our first deputation of the new 00:45:51.359 --> 00:45:53.656 governance rule. So thank you for coming 00:45:53.680 --> 00:45:55.416 forward and submitting your deputation. 00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:58.055 as well. As mentioned, no decision 00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:00.136 will be allowed on the deputation 00:46:00.160 --> 00:46:01.575 tonight, but it will be considered at 00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:03.095 future council meetings. But thank you 00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:05.095 once again for your time this evening 00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.496 and sharing that deputation with us. 00:46:07.520 --> 00:46:08.696 likewise, thank you very much for the 00:46:08.720 --> 00:46:09.095 time. 00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:12.119 Pleasure. 00:46:20.160 --> 00:46:23.160 That now brings us to our presentation 00:46:23.839 --> 00:46:26.839 of reports. 00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:32.920 And our first report is 7.1 the 00:46:33.599 --> 00:46:36.376 presentation of the CEO report from 00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:39.400 October 2025 issue 123. Are there any 00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:43.575 questions of the officers in relation to 00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.599 this report? Councelor Jay, 00:46:47.839 --> 00:46:49.896 um, thank you. I'm really enjoying these 00:46:49.920 --> 00:46:51.335 reports. There's lots of great 00:46:51.359 --> 00:46:54.216 information. I've got some clarifying 00:46:54.240 --> 00:46:56.936 questions. One is the CEO's report 00:46:56.960 --> 00:46:59.960 refers to 80 cages being installed on 00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:03.400 our bins as part of our initiative to 00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:06.440 support the container deposit scheme. 00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.256 Where is this an additional 80 to what 00:47:09.280 --> 00:47:11.016 we've already put on and where did the 00:47:11.040 --> 00:47:12.536 funding come from? 00:47:12.560 --> 00:47:13.815 I believe that question will be answered 00:47:13.839 --> 00:47:15.496 by Paul Wood, our general manager of 00:47:15.520 --> 00:47:17.815 operations. 00:47:17.839 --> 00:47:20.536 Um, thank you for that question. I may 00:47:20.560 --> 00:47:22.295 need to take it on notice just to be 00:47:22.319 --> 00:47:25.319 specific about whether it is new or um 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:27.416 existing, but I I'm making the 00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:28.696 assumption at this stage that it's 00:47:28.720 --> 00:47:30.616 existing ones, but I will clarify that 00:47:30.640 --> 00:47:31.335 for you. 00:47:31.359 --> 00:47:34.359 All right. Thank you, Paul. Um, 00:47:34.640 --> 00:47:37.416 my next question is 00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.896 there's some referring to KPIs in there. 00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:42.376 What is the average time taken to fill a 00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:45.256 pothole once it's reported to the City 00:47:45.280 --> 00:47:47.416 of Port Phillip? 00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:50.440 You can take it on notice if you like. 00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:52.856 , I'm I'm good with this question. 00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:54.936 Thank you for the question. um councelor 00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:57.016 Jay and through you may the average 00:47:57.040 --> 00:47:58.696 time to fill a pothole reported through 00:47:58.720 --> 00:48:00.696 snaps and solve depends on the road 00:48:00.720 --> 00:48:03.656 hierarchy and the associated risk as 00:48:03.680 --> 00:48:05.976 outlined in the council's road 00:48:06.000 --> 00:48:08.536 management plan. Urgent hazards such as 00:48:08.560 --> 00:48:10.536 sink holes are treated as priority and 00:48:10.560 --> 00:48:12.776 are typically isolated within 2 hours 00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:14.776 but often faster to ensure public 00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.256 safety. In cost contrast, non-urgent 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:19.016 issues like small potholes on local 00:48:19.040 --> 00:48:21.896 roads have a service level of up to 00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:23.575 three months to repair reflecting their 00:48:23.599 --> 00:48:26.376 lower risk to people on property. Um 00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:28.295 so it's also important to note that many 00:48:28.319 --> 00:48:30.535 requests received through SNAP and SOLF 00:48:30.559 --> 00:48:32.376 relate to roads managed by the 00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:34.376 Department of Transport or areas within 00:48:34.400 --> 00:48:37.095 narrow trams corridors. these are 00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:38.776 outside the City of Port Phillips direct 00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:40.696 responsibility and are promptly 00:48:40.720 --> 00:48:42.216 forwarded to the relevant authorities 00:48:42.240 --> 00:48:44.535 for action. this process ensures that 00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:46.376 all reported issues are addressed by the 00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:48.535 appropriate agencies while maintaining 00:48:48.559 --> 00:48:50.136 compliance with the service intervention 00:48:50.160 --> 00:48:52.136 levels set out in the road management 00:48:52.160 --> 00:48:52.856 plan. 00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:54.936 Great. Um thanks Paul. And my last 00:48:54.960 --> 00:48:57.335 question for the CEO report um there's a 00:48:57.359 --> 00:48:59.896 great new sports club audit tool that 00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:02.920 we've created. Um curious to know how 00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:06.295 many sporting fields do we have and is 00:49:06.319 --> 00:49:08.456 there sufficient women's toilets and 00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:10.936 change rooms on our sporting fields to 00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:13.736 service our community? 00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:15.095 That question will be answered by Kylie 00:49:15.119 --> 00:49:17.256 Bennett, manager of community wellbeing. 00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:19.095 Through you, Mayor. Thank you, councelor 00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:21.416 Jay, for your question. Council manages 00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:24.295 14 sports grounds, seven pavilions, and 00:49:24.319 --> 00:49:27.319 21 clubous supporting a range of sports 00:49:27.359 --> 00:49:30.136 and community activities. Over the past 00:49:30.160 --> 00:49:33.160 5 years, we've delivered major upgrades 00:49:33.520 --> 00:49:35.176 including new change rooms and 00:49:35.200 --> 00:49:37.656 toilets at Elwood Park, a new pavilion 00:49:37.680 --> 00:49:40.535 at JL Murphy Reserve, life-saving clubs 00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:42.535 at St Kilda and South Melbourne, and the 00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:44.936 Lagoon Reserve Pavilion is nearing 00:49:44.960 --> 00:49:47.656 completion. These projects have improved 00:49:47.680 --> 00:49:49.656 accessibility and supported greater 00:49:49.680 --> 00:49:52.295 participation by women and girls. While 00:49:52.319 --> 00:49:54.616 many council facilities are already 00:49:54.640 --> 00:49:57.176 inclusive under the fair access in sport 00:49:57.200 --> 00:49:59.656 policy, we will be conducting a sports 00:49:59.680 --> 00:50:02.680 club facility audit next year that 00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:05.335 will help us to identify pavilion 00:50:05.359 --> 00:50:08.055 upgrade opportunities that council 00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:11.016 can consider for future budgets and we 00:50:11.040 --> 00:50:12.456 believe that that will complement the 00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:14.776 new sports club audit tool which helps 00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.256 clubs review operations to improve 00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:20.280 gender equity. 00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:22.856 Any further questions on this item? 00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:25.880 Councelor Buckingham, 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:31.000 I note that the children's facilities 00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:34.440 upgrade program is um marked as on 00:50:35.280 --> 00:50:38.280 track, but that there is um a note here 00:50:40.160 --> 00:50:43.160 that at risk is the road tenders. 00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:46.295 And I know that we do have a 00:50:46.319 --> 00:50:48.376 confidential item on the agenda later 00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:49.896 tonight 00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:52.055 um regarding Ilen Road, but could I 00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.776 please have an update on the project as 00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:57.800 a whole given um its complexity and 00:50:57.839 --> 00:50:59.736 importance to the City of Port Phillip? 00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:01.416 Back to Kylie Bennett, our general 00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:02.055 manager. 00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:04.295 through you, Mayor. thank you for 00:51:04.319 --> 00:51:06.295 the question, Councelor Buckingham. 00:51:06.319 --> 00:51:08.696 officers have been working very hard 00:51:08.720 --> 00:51:11.720 and very collaboratively with Elden 00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:14.055 Road. Um, as you mentioned, there is a 00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:16.616 confidential item tonight that 00:51:16.640 --> 00:51:18.776 council will consider in terms of the 00:51:18.800 --> 00:51:21.800 Elden Road development project. , 00:51:22.160 --> 00:51:25.160 we've been working with Elden road 00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:28.599 to support their transition to North 00:51:29.040 --> 00:51:32.040 St. Kilda um to um enable the project 00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.960 to commence early in 2026. 00:51:39.119 --> 00:51:41.335 Um that's included working very closely 00:51:41.359 --> 00:51:44.359 with um to support their licensing 00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:46.295 activities with the department of 00:51:46.319 --> 00:51:49.319 education. council officers met on 00:51:49.520 --> 00:51:52.520 site with road representatives and 00:51:53.040 --> 00:51:55.496 the department of education this week um 00:51:55.520 --> 00:51:58.520 to further work towards a a smooth as 00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:01.800 possible decanting process towards 00:52:01.839 --> 00:52:04.839 the end of this year. Um we've also 00:52:05.520 --> 00:52:08.295 installed some signs recently at 00:52:08.319 --> 00:52:11.176 Elden Road and at North St Kilda. Ilden 00:52:11.200 --> 00:52:13.575 Road flagging. the development will 00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:16.376 soon commence. and at North St Kilda 00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:18.696 welcoming Ilden Road and their families 00:52:18.720 --> 00:52:21.720 to that temporary site for 2026. 00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:26.055 we've been doing some promotion of 00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:29.079 Road as one of the fantastic 00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:31.656 children's service facilities within our 00:52:31.680 --> 00:52:34.136 municipality. and have also been 00:52:34.160 --> 00:52:35.976 working with them on the enrollment 00:52:36.000 --> 00:52:39.000 process for 2026. 00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:41.656 Any further questions on this item? 00:52:41.680 --> 00:52:43.496 Councelor Halliday. 00:52:43.520 --> 00:52:46.136 thank you, Mayor. The CEO report is a 00:52:46.160 --> 00:52:48.535 um a wealth of metrics about um the 00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:51.559 activities of council. and I am 00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:52.936 wondering whether we have the 00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.095 opportunity to incorporate into the CEO 00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:58.119 report um information about road crash 00:52:58.559 --> 00:53:01.095 incidents that have occurred here in the 00:53:01.119 --> 00:53:02.776 City of Port Phillip. whether it's on 00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:05.736 our roads or state roads um and what 00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:08.616 that how feasible that is and what that 00:53:08.640 --> 00:53:11.640 might look like. Um thank you. 00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:13.656 That will be answered by Mike Fischer, a 00:53:13.680 --> 00:53:14.776 manager of City planning and 00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:16.376 sustainability 00:53:16.400 --> 00:53:17.976 through you Mayor and thank you for 00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:19.736 the question councelor Halliday. Um 00:53:19.760 --> 00:53:22.696 certainly yes we um can report through 00:53:22.720 --> 00:53:24.776 the CA report and we could on a 00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:27.095 quarterly basis we think best to be able 00:53:27.119 --> 00:53:29.496 to look back at what DTP are providing 00:53:29.520 --> 00:53:32.520 and provide that that crash stat update. 00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:35.176 There is a lag in the data. So we'll be 00:53:35.200 --> 00:53:36.936 providing the most we can provide the 00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:39.095 most accurate data we can at the time of 00:53:39.119 --> 00:53:42.119 those CA reports. 00:53:42.160 --> 00:53:44.696 Any further questions from councilors? 00:53:44.720 --> 00:53:47.720 Councelor Thomann, 00:53:47.920 --> 00:53:50.376 just a question on the Silapia, which is 00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:53.095 noted here with an orange square or 00:53:53.119 --> 00:53:56.119 diamond at risk. Um I assume the risk is 00:53:57.119 --> 00:53:59.256 not to finish on time but can I have an 00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:02.280 update on the situation um at and also 00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:07.880 is the work going to keep 00:54:10.000 --> 00:54:12.616 keep going while you know doing the 00:54:12.640 --> 00:54:15.640 some holiday or that January. 00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:19.575 Paul Wood, our general manager of 00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:22.599 operations. 00:54:23.200 --> 00:54:25.416 Again, um I may need to take this one on 00:54:25.440 --> 00:54:27.095 not just unless there is anybody else 00:54:27.119 --> 00:54:30.119 who can support me on Kylie Bennett. 00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:33.095 through you, Mayor. council 00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:35.335 officers have been working very hard 00:54:35.359 --> 00:54:38.295 and very diligently on this project. 00:54:38.319 --> 00:54:40.216 but I might take it on notice to give 00:54:40.240 --> 00:54:43.240 you a a fullome response. 00:54:43.440 --> 00:54:46.440 Chris Carol, I see you. 00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:50.280 through you may I believe that um 00:54:50.720 --> 00:54:52.456 it's mainly at risk because of external 00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:55.335 authority approvals. So we need to get 00:54:55.359 --> 00:54:58.216 final approvals for some of the um the 00:54:58.240 --> 00:55:00.936 changes to the car parking entrances. 00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:02.696 What we've done in the meantime is work 00:55:02.720 --> 00:55:05.176 around that um by rescheduling works and 00:55:05.200 --> 00:55:06.616 trying to get as much done on site as we 00:55:06.640 --> 00:55:08.136 can while those approvals take place. 00:55:08.160 --> 00:55:10.856 And I believe we have been escalating 00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:12.535 those approvals with the Department of 00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.095 Transport and Planning. 00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:18.119 Any further questions? 00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:20.136 We've certainly demonstrated we've read 00:55:20.160 --> 00:55:23.160 the report. So, , , the now that we 00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:25.736 have an officer recommendation before 00:55:25.760 --> 00:55:27.496 us, would someone like to move the 00:55:27.520 --> 00:55:29.496 recommendation? Councelor Thomann and 00:55:29.520 --> 00:55:32.456 seconded councelor Halliday. Would 00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:35.480 the mover wish to speak to the motion? 00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:39.976 Well, you know, we actually, you know, 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:42.055 as councelor Halliday said, you know, 00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:44.856 this the CEO's report gives us a bit of 00:55:44.880 --> 00:55:47.880 a check out of what we do and 00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:50.856 bring things up to the front that we may 00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:53.815 not think about. Um so I think, you 00:55:53.839 --> 00:55:55.896 know, it's nice that most of the items 00:55:55.920 --> 00:55:58.920 are actually on track. so, um I think 00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:03.000 it's it's I encourage the community to 00:56:03.200 --> 00:56:05.896 read the co's report. It's most probably 00:56:05.920 --> 00:56:07.335 more interesting than a lot of the 00:56:07.359 --> 00:56:10.136 reports that come to us and and and much 00:56:10.160 --> 00:56:12.456 more concrete you know it's much you 00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:14.616 know I enjoy much more to read the 00:56:14.640 --> 00:56:16.216 reports and a lot of pages on strategies 00:56:16.240 --> 00:56:18.295 and think at least something concrete we 00:56:18.319 --> 00:56:20.376 know what we are doing and we are 00:56:20.400 --> 00:56:23.400 doing a lot and well 00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:25.896 thank you councelor Halliday. 00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:27.656 Yeah I'd just like to thank the CEO 00:56:27.680 --> 00:56:29.016 and officers for the opportunity to 00:56:29.040 --> 00:56:31.176 bring some extra reporting to the to 00:56:31.200 --> 00:56:33.016 this already extensive report. So I 00:56:33.040 --> 00:56:34.376 appreciate your flexibility from 00:56:34.400 --> 00:56:37.256 everyone on that. Thank you. Do any 00:56:37.280 --> 00:56:39.815 other councilors wish to speak to this 00:56:39.839 --> 00:56:42.535 motion. 00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:45.095 No. In which case does the mover wish to 00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:47.896 close? 00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:49.736 In which case the motion is now being 00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.760 put to a vote. All in favor? 00:56:53.040 --> 00:56:56.040 That is carried unanimously. 00:56:57.440 --> 00:57:00.440 Takes us now to item 10.1, amendment 00:57:01.359 --> 00:57:03.896 C219, Port, the South Melbourne 00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:06.856 structure plan. Are there any questions 00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:09.880 of officers in relation to this report? 00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:14.920 Councelor Crawford, 00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:17.575 I was just wondering, could you outline 00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:20.599 the process from here? Um, assuming we 00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:24.376 pass this, then it goes to panel. But 00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:27.095 could you clarify for me? We can't make 00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:29.815 any changes tonight. You can't make one 00:57:29.839 --> 00:57:31.656 change because then you'd have to make 00:57:31.680 --> 00:57:33.575 lots of changes. Could you explain talk 00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:36.456 that through for me, please? 00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:39.480 Sure. Three, , Mayor. , the stage 00:57:40.319 --> 00:57:42.055 that we're at in the amendment process 00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:44.376 is that council is required to obviously 00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:46.456 consider submissions and decide whether 00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:49.176 to refer them to an independent panel. 00:57:49.200 --> 00:57:51.896 Um the panel process allows for natural 00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:54.535 justice and so the panel will consider 00:57:54.559 --> 00:57:56.936 the unresolved submissions. After that 00:57:56.960 --> 00:57:59.016 the panel will provide a report to 00:57:59.040 --> 00:58:01.736 council with their recommendations. 00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:04.760 Um the usual process at this stage is 00:58:05.359 --> 00:58:07.575 that officers have recommended um minor 00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:10.599 changes to the amendment. the usual 00:58:11.520 --> 00:58:14.520 practice is that um yeah for minor 00:58:14.960 --> 00:58:17.896 changes larger changes generally come 00:58:17.920 --> 00:58:19.736 with complexity in that we haven't 00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:21.736 actually exhibited those changes as part 00:58:21.760 --> 00:58:24.616 of the amendment. So if we were to make 00:58:24.640 --> 00:58:26.456 major changes then that would require 00:58:26.480 --> 00:58:28.376 additional exhibition of the 00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:29.896 amendment going out to people who would 00:58:29.920 --> 00:58:31.976 be unaware. So there's that additional 00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:34.055 complexity. Therefore we're generally 00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:35.575 recommending minor changes to the 00:58:35.599 --> 00:58:37.256 amendment. We also have the panel 00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:38.775 process which will hear written 00:58:38.799 --> 00:58:40.696 submissions which will consider written 00:58:40.720 --> 00:58:42.775 submissions and also give the 00:58:42.799 --> 00:58:44.775 submitters the opportunity to present 00:58:44.799 --> 00:58:47.256 their position in front of the panel. 00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:49.016 So there's that opportunity and we'll 00:58:49.040 --> 00:58:51.016 get their independent report back to 00:58:51.040 --> 00:58:52.535 consider those different positions that 00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:53.256 are put. 00:58:53.280 --> 00:58:53.815 Can I ask 00:58:53.839 --> 00:58:56.136 Thank you Leon Kirkwood that yes please 00:58:56.160 --> 00:58:58.616 councelor Crawford. So whether they 00:58:58.640 --> 00:59:01.496 recommend any changes after that if that 00:59:01.520 --> 00:59:04.055 panel process goes ahead 00:59:04.079 --> 00:59:06.616 what if comes back to us can we choose 00:59:06.640 --> 00:59:09.640 to take on those changes or refuse them 00:59:09.760 --> 00:59:12.456 or then if we do that does it have to 00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:14.535 start all over again or this is kind of 00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:16.216 the final stage and we can still choose 00:59:16.240 --> 00:59:18.616 to accept or refuse some of those 00:59:18.640 --> 00:59:21.095 changes. Correct. So the panel's 00:59:21.119 --> 00:59:23.575 report to us is a recommendation. So 00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:25.575 council can choose to accept those 00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:27.575 recommendations or not accept those 00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:29.976 recommendations. Where council doesn't 00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:31.496 accept the recommendations, we need to 00:59:31.520 --> 00:59:34.520 provide justification. Um the next step 00:59:34.559 --> 00:59:36.936 in the process if is if council adopts 00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:38.136 the amendment, it will go to the 00:59:38.160 --> 00:59:40.295 minister for approval. The minister is 00:59:40.319 --> 00:59:43.319 generally looking for um will also take 00:59:43.359 --> 00:59:45.575 note of the panel's recommendations in 00:59:45.599 --> 00:59:47.896 considering the amendment. So yes, we 00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:50.055 can accept them or not accept them 00:59:50.079 --> 00:59:53.079 depending on what they recommend. 00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:55.575 Thank you. 00:59:55.599 --> 00:59:58.599 Counselor 00:59:58.640 --> 01:00:00.136 Joe. 01:00:00.160 --> 01:00:03.160 All right. Councelor Halliday then. 01:00:03.680 --> 01:00:05.896 thank you, Mayor. Um I've got two 01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:07.896 questions here. Um just following on 01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:09.736 from Tom and Travis who are here 01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:12.616 tonight but have left already. that 01:00:12.640 --> 01:00:15.016 City road triangle is an area of much 01:00:15.040 --> 01:00:18.040 concern to the community here. Um I I 01:00:18.240 --> 01:00:21.240 understand that we that the um new 01:00:21.680 --> 01:00:23.095 structure plan recommends zoning 01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:26.119 commercial zone 2. Um 01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:29.976 we there's a bit of history here where 01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:33.000 it seems like lots of people think that 01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:35.656 that should be a um a different zoning, 01:00:35.680 --> 01:00:37.496 a mixeduse zone that allows residential 01:00:37.520 --> 01:00:40.456 in it. what why what is the 01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:42.616 justification for us zoning that as um 01:00:42.640 --> 01:00:45.335 commercial zone 2 w without obviously 01:00:45.359 --> 01:00:47.256 having not giving you notice of this 01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:48.856 question 01:00:48.880 --> 01:00:50.376 through you may and thank you for the 01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:53.095 question um so I think through the 01:00:53.119 --> 01:00:54.936 through the technical studies that that 01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:56.376 were undertaken for the structure plan 01:00:56.400 --> 01:00:58.216 so the south Melbourne employment 01:00:58.240 --> 01:01:00.136 economic and land use study um 01:01:00.160 --> 01:01:02.055 consideration was looked at in terms of 01:01:02.079 --> 01:01:04.376 the zoning and and what we felt what the 01:01:04.400 --> 01:01:05.815 what the technical study felt was the 01:01:05.839 --> 01:01:07.815 most appropriate the the Commercial 01:01:07.839 --> 01:01:09.815 three zoning 01:01:09.839 --> 01:01:11.896 um is not recommended because the study 01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:14.136 found the need to maintain flexibility 01:01:14.160 --> 01:01:15.815 for the establishment of commercial and 01:01:15.839 --> 01:01:17.656 retail uses within this area and no 01:01:17.680 --> 01:01:19.575 strategic need to allow the accommod 01:01:19.599 --> 01:01:21.896 accommodation uses within within the 01:01:21.920 --> 01:01:23.736 enterprise precinct. And we should also 01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:26.295 note that state policy is quite clear 01:01:26.319 --> 01:01:28.136 that significant employment precincts 01:01:28.160 --> 01:01:31.095 should be retained and planned to allow 01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:33.416 for a range of existing as well as new 01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:36.055 and emerging industries um that require 01:01:36.079 --> 01:01:37.896 access to affordable and welllocated 01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:39.256 employment land. And it should be noted 01:01:39.280 --> 01:01:41.815 we we don't have a lot of employment 01:01:41.839 --> 01:01:44.055 land in the City and and therefore that 01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:47.079 protection of this we feel is crucial. 01:01:47.520 --> 01:01:50.136 Council Holiday and just following that 01:01:50.160 --> 01:01:52.295 one, um Travis also asked about I think 01:01:52.319 --> 01:01:54.856 it was the I think he said they were 01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:56.696 from Spotlight, but they're their land 01:01:56.720 --> 01:01:58.616 holding is over the road at the Aldi 01:01:58.640 --> 01:02:01.095 kind of building there. Um whether it 01:02:01.119 --> 01:02:04.119 was Ceil or whatever it is. Um and they 01:02:04.319 --> 01:02:07.319 noted the the kind of um they thought 01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:10.696 unjustified floor area ratio of their 01:02:10.720 --> 01:02:13.720 particular um their particular land 01:02:13.760 --> 01:02:15.976 holding there. Obviously once again um 01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:18.376 you know people want to see maximize the 01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:21.016 value of their land holdings. Um will 01:02:21.040 --> 01:02:23.815 their their recommendation there well 01:02:23.839 --> 01:02:25.656 actually two questions. First do we 01:02:25.680 --> 01:02:28.136 understand why that one has a has what 01:02:28.160 --> 01:02:29.656 seems like a very different floor area 01:02:29.680 --> 01:02:31.976 ratio to the surrounding buildings. Um 01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:35.000 and second will there obviously the 01:02:35.119 --> 01:02:38.119 panel will consider their um their 01:02:38.160 --> 01:02:41.160 submission through this process 01:02:42.720 --> 01:02:45.416 through you may yeah the panel will 01:02:45.440 --> 01:02:47.416 definitely consider the submitter's 01:02:47.440 --> 01:02:50.216 position on this F. Um council will also 01:02:50.240 --> 01:02:52.696 provide an expert who will be able to 01:02:52.720 --> 01:02:55.656 explain the thinking behind the F. Um 01:02:55.680 --> 01:02:58.680 that particular site in Market Street is 01:02:59.200 --> 01:03:00.936 slightly different from its surrounds 01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:03.176 in that it's it has it's going 01:03:03.200 --> 01:03:04.936 commercial one and has those commercial 01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:07.575 uses. So it's linked in with the market 01:03:07.599 --> 01:03:10.599 street and the market precinct. Um the 01:03:10.640 --> 01:03:13.640 site the way the FS have been um 01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:15.815 developed are that they've been 01:03:15.839 --> 01:03:17.976 they're quite bespoke and developed to 01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:20.456 suit those particular sites. So on that 01:03:20.480 --> 01:03:23.480 site um the F has been developed looking 01:03:24.319 --> 01:03:26.696 at preserving the historic roof form. 01:03:26.720 --> 01:03:28.376 There are a number of elements to that 01:03:28.400 --> 01:03:30.535 site that were taken into account when 01:03:30.559 --> 01:03:33.559 that F was developed. So but certainly 01:03:33.680 --> 01:03:36.216 that F will be no doubt discussed at the 01:03:36.240 --> 01:03:37.815 panel hearing. 01:03:37.839 --> 01:03:39.896 Thank you. Councelor Timman, you had a 01:03:39.920 --> 01:03:41.176 question. 01:03:41.200 --> 01:03:44.200 Yeah. Um how does a panel work? just um 01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:46.936 obviously there are a few people in the 01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:49.960 panel and then I assume people are 01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:52.535 presenting the report so there will 01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:55.559 be council officers can the 01:03:57.599 --> 01:04:00.535 people concerned the be part of that and 01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:03.335 express their concerns and present their 01:04:03.359 --> 01:04:05.256 submissions etc. How does how does that 01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:05.736 work? 01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:08.535 Absolutely through you Mayor. Um so the 01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:11.335 panel at the panel the council will 01:04:11.359 --> 01:04:13.496 present its position. We will have a 01:04:13.520 --> 01:04:16.055 number of experts who will I guess 01:04:16.079 --> 01:04:17.976 who have informed our technical work and 01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:20.936 will help explain our position. all 01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:22.936 submitters will be notified by planning 01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:24.696 panels Victoria of the hearing. So 01:04:24.720 --> 01:04:26.295 they'll have the opportunity to come 01:04:26.319 --> 01:04:29.319 along and speak at the hearing. um the 01:04:29.680 --> 01:04:32.216 panel so some of those will some of 01:04:32.240 --> 01:04:33.416 the submitters will bring along 01:04:33.440 --> 01:04:35.976 technical experts but the panel tries to 01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:38.856 be very um supportive of residents and 01:04:38.880 --> 01:04:40.856 other people who are less experienced in 01:04:40.880 --> 01:04:43.880 in the panel I guess process and so 01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:45.496 they're very accommodating in terms of 01:04:45.520 --> 01:04:48.456 the public speaking so there'll be 01:04:48.480 --> 01:04:50.696 should council determine to send this to 01:04:50.720 --> 01:04:53.720 a panel we will then contact planning 01:04:53.760 --> 01:04:56.055 panels they will establish or set up a 01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:59.079 panel for us and Um they will then 01:04:59.440 --> 01:05:01.095 notify all the submitters to the 01:05:01.119 --> 01:05:02.456 process. So anyone that's made a 01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:04.456 submission and they'll be notified of 01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:07.480 the panel and what happens next. 01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:11.559 Any further questions? Councelor Jay. 01:05:13.520 --> 01:05:16.055 Okay. Um 01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:18.136 this is I'm council for the South 01:05:18.160 --> 01:05:19.656 Melbourne M and there is a lot of 01:05:19.680 --> 01:05:22.535 interest in this plan. Um I will be 01:05:22.559 --> 01:05:25.559 asking my first question is and I know 01:05:25.839 --> 01:05:28.456 we received some late submissions. Um 01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:30.376 have any changes been made to the 01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:33.400 structure plan um 01:05:33.680 --> 01:05:36.680 considering um these submissions 01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:39.496 um through you may and thank you for the 01:05:39.520 --> 01:05:41.176 question councelor Jay and yes 01:05:41.200 --> 01:05:43.095 acknowledges I mean over a few years 01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:44.535 there's been a lot of engagement over 01:05:44.559 --> 01:05:45.896 the structure plan and getting to this 01:05:45.920 --> 01:05:47.896 stage is a is a real milestone and we 01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:50.920 hope to continue. So um and we did have 01:05:51.520 --> 01:05:53.736 I think 90 submissions in total, some 01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:56.535 late that we we've got into the process. 01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:58.856 Um at this stage only minor changes have 01:05:58.880 --> 01:06:01.880 been recommended. Um the changes include 01:06:02.160 --> 01:06:03.496 minor updates to the design and 01:06:03.520 --> 01:06:05.095 development schedules to clarify some 01:06:05.119 --> 01:06:07.416 built form requirements and outcomes. U 01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:08.936 minor updates to the amendment to better 01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:10.376 acknowledge the role of the South 01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:12.775 Melbourne market as a retail anchor 01:06:12.799 --> 01:06:14.775 and correcting some mapping errors. 01:06:14.799 --> 01:06:17.015 we're also some minor updates to the 01:06:17.039 --> 01:06:18.936 structure plan, some policy references 01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:20.936 to plan for Victoria and the state 01:06:20.960 --> 01:06:23.256 government municipal housing targets. Um 01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:24.856 and updating the plan to clarify the 01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:26.856 status of Melbourne Waters flood data 01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:29.496 and and mapping and some references to 01:06:29.520 --> 01:06:31.815 Emerald Hill Court Housing Estate and 01:06:31.839 --> 01:06:33.736 the references to the former master plan 01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:36.616 boundary and proposed health facilities. 01:06:36.640 --> 01:06:38.136 Yeah, some changes. 01:06:38.160 --> 01:06:39.496 Thank you, Mike. And thank you to you 01:06:39.520 --> 01:06:42.136 and the team. We've had a lot of um 01:06:42.160 --> 01:06:44.616 conversations about this and and help 01:06:44.640 --> 01:06:47.335 understand as councelor Crawford 01:06:47.359 --> 01:06:49.256 suggested. We've still got a long way to 01:06:49.280 --> 01:06:51.976 go after this. It'll go to the panel, 01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:54.136 then back to council, and then it'll go 01:06:54.160 --> 01:06:56.856 back to the minister's office. And to be 01:06:56.880 --> 01:06:59.335 very clear, we may not even be sitting 01:06:59.359 --> 01:07:01.575 in council by the time it comes back. 01:07:01.599 --> 01:07:03.976 So, this is a very long pro I mean, with 01:07:04.000 --> 01:07:06.216 an election next year, so this is quite 01:07:06.240 --> 01:07:09.015 a long process. Um the two bug bears for 01:07:09.039 --> 01:07:11.015 the South Melbourne community are the 01:07:11.039 --> 01:07:14.039 City's wedge and City's edge. So I will 01:07:15.520 --> 01:07:18.520 start off with City's edge which is um 01:07:19.039 --> 01:07:21.736 suggested in the structure plan that it 01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:24.760 will have a heritage overlay. My 01:07:24.880 --> 01:07:27.880 question is um for the City's edge um 01:07:32.160 --> 01:07:34.295 why are the officers recommending an 01:07:34.319 --> 01:07:37.256 overlay for City's edge? And if the 01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:39.736 heritage overlay is accepted, what are 01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:42.295 the practical and financial impacts on 01:07:42.319 --> 01:07:44.696 the 200 residents when undertaking 01:07:44.720 --> 01:07:46.535 capital works on their roof which is 01:07:46.559 --> 01:07:49.559 planned? Potentially solar panels and um 01:07:50.160 --> 01:07:53.015 retrofitting EV charges. how how will 01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:56.039 this um new new overlay affect those 01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:00.119 things in our community? 01:08:02.880 --> 01:08:05.176 thanks councelor Jay for the double 01:08:05.200 --> 01:08:07.335 double barrel question. I'll answer the 01:08:07.359 --> 01:08:09.095 I'll answer the first section which was 01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:11.736 around why we've identified the heritage 01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:14.760 overlay for the City edge site. So um 01:08:15.119 --> 01:08:17.735 our technical experts in heritage 01:08:17.759 --> 01:08:20.536 have identified that the site is 01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:22.856 obviously significant in terms of 01:08:22.880 --> 01:08:25.416 heritage. So it was constructed in 1971 01:08:25.440 --> 01:08:28.440 to75. So it's considered an outstanding 01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:31.096 building um an extending development of 01:08:31.120 --> 01:08:33.735 its type. So the ideas behind it were 01:08:33.759 --> 01:08:36.376 that it was architecturally and um 01:08:36.400 --> 01:08:38.135 context specific. So it's quite a 01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:40.295 different style of highdensity housing 01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:43.319 at that time. So it was pioneering. Um 01:08:43.759 --> 01:08:45.655 the other reasons why it's 01:08:45.679 --> 01:08:47.496 significant is that it's also 01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:49.655 important work by local architects Daryl 01:08:49.679 --> 01:08:52.456 Jackson and Ian Walker and also it's the 01:08:52.480 --> 01:08:54.695 whole integration of this buildings and 01:08:54.719 --> 01:08:56.456 the landscape and the creation of a 01:08:56.480 --> 01:08:59.480 neighborhood. So that those reasons 01:08:59.520 --> 01:09:01.976 are outlined in a gap study that Trethan 01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:04.456 heritage experts have developed 01:09:04.480 --> 01:09:06.856 for us. So that expand it's expanded on 01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:09.016 in that document. um we can provide the 01:09:09.040 --> 01:09:11.335 document to councilors and it was a part 01:09:11.359 --> 01:09:13.255 of the exhibition of the amendment. So 01:09:13.279 --> 01:09:14.695 that document's been out with all the 01:09:14.719 --> 01:09:16.856 other documents in terms of the 01:09:16.880 --> 01:09:19.335 practical inputs or the practical 01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:22.359 impacts sorry on residents. So owners 01:09:23.120 --> 01:09:25.735 can still make upgrades to the building 01:09:25.759 --> 01:09:28.135 um including like adding solar panels, 01:09:28.159 --> 01:09:30.775 EV charges and undertaking maintenance. 01:09:30.799 --> 01:09:32.856 So the heritage overlay doesn't prevent 01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:35.735 upgrades. In some circumstances this 01:09:35.759 --> 01:09:37.496 work can happen without planning 01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:39.096 permits. So generally that's maintenance 01:09:39.120 --> 01:09:42.120 and it means like for like. Um in other 01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:44.295 cases planning permits will be required. 01:09:44.319 --> 01:09:46.376 There's also a number of like fasttrack 01:09:46.400 --> 01:09:48.856 amendment processes. So it's called VIX 01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:50.775 smart which allows a planning permit to 01:09:50.799 --> 01:09:53.735 be issued in 10 days. So depending on 01:09:53.759 --> 01:09:56.759 the location of the um the service say 01:09:57.679 --> 01:09:59.256 that where the solar panels are or where 01:09:59.280 --> 01:10:01.336 the EV charger is it may be eligible for 01:10:01.360 --> 01:10:03.896 that fasttrack um amendment. sorry 01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:06.456 permit process. Um the owners can also 01:10:06.480 --> 01:10:09.096 access our heritage advisor and also 01:10:09.120 --> 01:10:12.120 seek advice from our stat planners as 01:10:12.159 --> 01:10:15.159 well. All right. Thank you. Um and my 01:10:16.320 --> 01:10:19.320 last question was um touched on in a way 01:10:20.080 --> 01:10:23.016 by councelor Halliday and I think I 01:10:23.040 --> 01:10:26.040 just want to um be a little bit um more 01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:29.960 understanding. The City's wedge 01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:33.159 um is quite controversial in a way. We 01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:36.215 are saving it as commercial, but there 01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:38.056 is people in the community that feel if 01:10:38.080 --> 01:10:40.536 we um turned into a mixeduse zone that 01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:42.536 we could potentially unlock and let 01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:44.056 everything sprawl out and it would 01:10:44.080 --> 01:10:46.936 encourage fisherman's bend. Um, what I'm 01:10:46.960 --> 01:10:48.695 curious to know, and thank you Mike for 01:10:48.719 --> 01:10:51.175 touching on it, but the commercial three 01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:54.199 zone for me it feels like it was made 01:10:54.960 --> 01:10:57.816 for this being mixed employment for 01:10:57.840 --> 01:10:59.416 creative industries, small 01:10:59.440 --> 01:11:01.896 manufacturers, startup businesses to 01:11:01.920 --> 01:11:04.856 foster economic drivers in the precinct. 01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:07.880 Um, obviously a a commercial three will 01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:11.096 allow some residential in line with 01:11:11.120 --> 01:11:14.120 our state government and our focus. Um a 01:11:14.800 --> 01:11:16.296 and as much as we're keeping it for 01:11:16.320 --> 01:11:17.896 commercial, I do without being 01:11:17.920 --> 01:11:20.296 disrespectful want to refer to um the 01:11:20.320 --> 01:11:22.536 types of commercial resident businesses 01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:23.816 that we have here and there's a lot of 01:11:23.840 --> 01:11:26.840 massage and and and things like that. So 01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:30.600 um what is the reasoning or can we or um 01:11:31.760 --> 01:11:33.896 can the panel consider a commercial 01:11:33.920 --> 01:11:36.920 three in this zone or why didn't we 01:11:37.440 --> 01:11:40.440 support that as an option here? 01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:44.056 Well um through you may so and thank you 01:11:44.080 --> 01:11:46.296 for the question. I think so going back 01:11:46.320 --> 01:11:48.296 to that overall strategic direction 01:11:48.320 --> 01:11:50.056 which I mentioned earlier. So the 01:11:50.080 --> 01:11:51.816 they're looking to protect a 01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:53.496 commercial enterprise zone was one of 01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:55.816 the crucial parts of the economic and 01:11:55.840 --> 01:11:57.416 employment land study that was 01:11:57.440 --> 01:11:59.175 undertaken. So that's one of the 01:11:59.199 --> 01:12:01.896 foundations for why we haven't um 01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:04.536 recommended that change and also that 01:12:04.560 --> 01:12:07.496 state policy for protecting that land. 01:12:07.520 --> 01:12:10.520 Um in terms of also where we're saying 01:12:11.199 --> 01:12:14.199 look the reszoning as a to commercial 01:12:14.400 --> 01:12:17.016 too better reflects the the land uses 01:12:17.040 --> 01:12:18.936 already established in the area and 01:12:18.960 --> 01:12:21.336 reinforce reinforces its role as part of 01:12:21.360 --> 01:12:24.135 that broader enterprise precinct. Um so 01:12:24.159 --> 01:12:26.135 we haven't then supported that that 01:12:26.159 --> 01:12:28.376 change but obviously at the panel that 01:12:28.400 --> 01:12:30.296 will be discussed and and deliberated on 01:12:30.320 --> 01:12:33.016 with our experts and the advice that 01:12:33.040 --> 01:12:35.816 we've um been working through and that 01:12:35.840 --> 01:12:38.056 technical study. 01:12:38.080 --> 01:12:39.576 Thank you Mike because there is a school 01:12:39.600 --> 01:12:42.135 and a lovely park for for people to 01:12:42.159 --> 01:12:43.736 enjoy. So thank you for that. 01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:45.576 Thank you councelor Jay. Councelor 01:12:45.600 --> 01:12:47.175 Halliday I believe there's a further 01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:48.296 question. 01:12:48.320 --> 01:12:50.135 Yeah. Um 01:12:50.159 --> 01:12:51.655 just picking up on the point here on 01:12:51.679 --> 01:12:54.616 page 66 about Melbourne water um and 01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:56.616 their concerns about flooding risk in 01:12:56.640 --> 01:12:59.640 this area. Um how do we reconcile and 01:13:02.080 --> 01:13:04.936 manage these two competing needs? the 01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:07.960 one competing need of you know um 01:13:08.640 --> 01:13:10.135 residential intensification and 01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:13.159 densification and the other competing um 01:13:14.080 --> 01:13:17.016 you know conflict of flood risk in 01:13:17.040 --> 01:13:20.040 these areas. What is our approach to 01:13:20.159 --> 01:13:23.159 ensuring that that as we densify and 01:13:23.440 --> 01:13:26.440 develop that we are protecting future 01:13:27.040 --> 01:13:28.856 generations potentially from these 01:13:28.880 --> 01:13:30.856 increasing risks that we that we know 01:13:30.880 --> 01:13:33.880 about now um and we know are increasing. 01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:38.215 Yeah. Through you may and I I might 01:13:38.239 --> 01:13:39.976 start and Leon can jump in in terms of 01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:41.655 that technical but I I I mean I think 01:13:41.679 --> 01:13:43.336 we're doing a lot of work. Some of it is 01:13:43.360 --> 01:13:44.856 the work with Melbourne Water together 01:13:44.880 --> 01:13:46.856 on our flood mapping and understanding 01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:49.576 how we work. We we get the best data we 01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:51.496 can and we understand what we have and 01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:53.096 what we need to do to mitigate. 01:13:53.120 --> 01:13:55.576 Obviously, we have a discussion through 01:13:55.600 --> 01:13:57.256 this with Melbourne Water and technical 01:13:57.280 --> 01:13:59.416 experts on what we are trying to achieve 01:13:59.440 --> 01:14:01.016 and obviously the state in terms of 01:14:01.040 --> 01:14:03.496 growth and how we accommodate that and 01:14:03.520 --> 01:14:05.655 the need for where we can mitigate and 01:14:05.679 --> 01:14:08.215 avoid avoid those impacts or mitigate 01:14:08.239 --> 01:14:09.416 those impacts. I think it's what we've 01:14:09.440 --> 01:14:10.856 been trying to do through this structure 01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:12.456 plan process is make sure we've got the 01:14:12.480 --> 01:14:15.175 best approach we can to facilitate that 01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:17.816 growth and find that balance of where 01:14:17.840 --> 01:14:19.256 that's appropriate and I think we're 01:14:19.280 --> 01:14:20.856 doing still doing work with Melbourne 01:14:20.880 --> 01:14:23.336 Water um through this process and we'll 01:14:23.360 --> 01:14:24.856 do no out through the panel about where 01:14:24.880 --> 01:14:27.096 we think growth is appropriate in South 01:14:27.120 --> 01:14:29.576 Melbourne and they'll um obviously 01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:31.655 provide input with the with the flood 01:14:31.679 --> 01:14:33.416 mapping data as well. Not sure there's 01:14:33.440 --> 01:14:34.616 anything else to 01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:37.640 No. No. 01:14:38.080 --> 01:14:41.080 Any further questions? 01:14:42.320 --> 01:14:44.695 All right. If not, councilors, we do 01:14:44.719 --> 01:14:46.215 have an officer recommendation before 01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:47.896 us. Is there someone who'd like to move 01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:50.776 that or anything different? We have a 01:14:50.800 --> 01:14:52.936 mover from councelor Jay, seconded. 01:14:52.960 --> 01:14:54.936 Councelor Halliday. Councelor Jay, 01:14:54.960 --> 01:14:57.960 the floor is yours to open the debate. 01:14:58.960 --> 01:15:00.376 There is lots of things I would have 01:15:00.400 --> 01:15:02.376 changed in here for my residents if we 01:15:02.400 --> 01:15:05.336 could have but I am very clear on the um 01:15:05.360 --> 01:15:08.360 process the complications and um 01:15:09.360 --> 01:15:11.655 having to move through the correct 01:15:11.679 --> 01:15:13.896 avenues. There is still an opportunity 01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:15.416 in front of the independent panel and 01:15:15.440 --> 01:15:16.776 then once again in front of the minister 01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:19.576 for any um changes or or take any of 01:15:19.600 --> 01:15:22.600 this on board. So I look forward to um 01:15:22.800 --> 01:15:25.496 sending this to the next part and seeing 01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:28.520 it boomerang back at some stage. So um 01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:32.520 complex lot of hard work well done um 01:15:33.199 --> 01:15:34.936 for the creation and the way it's all 01:15:34.960 --> 01:15:37.896 been managed. So um yeah, go South 01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:38.936 Melbourne. 01:15:38.960 --> 01:15:40.616 Thank you councelor Jay. Over to the 01:15:40.640 --> 01:15:42.056 secondary councelor Halliday. The 01:15:42.080 --> 01:15:43.816 floor is yours. Yeah, I feel like we're 01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:45.175 going to spend four years complaining 01:15:45.199 --> 01:15:47.976 about not um having the the power to 01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:50.776 influence um some decisions that come um 01:15:50.800 --> 01:15:53.800 through this chamber. so, you know, 01:15:53.920 --> 01:15:55.736 in this case, we don't have the power 01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:57.416 to, you know, pick and choose which of 01:15:57.440 --> 01:16:00.440 the submissions we take um and they off 01:16:00.800 --> 01:16:03.175 go off to um the panel to decide and 01:16:03.199 --> 01:16:04.776 then they go to the minister ultimately. 01:16:04.800 --> 01:16:06.776 So, you know, at this point here, I 01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:08.536 think um we're in the position of taking 01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:10.296 the best advice from the officers who've 01:16:10.320 --> 01:16:12.296 done all the work behind the scenes um 01:16:12.320 --> 01:16:13.976 and trusting in that and sending it off 01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:16.296 to the panel to make the the final 01:16:16.320 --> 01:16:19.016 well, not the final determination to to 01:16:19.040 --> 01:16:22.040 reconcile all of this competing 01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:23.976 feedback and then off to the minister 01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:26.296 for the final decision on this. So, um 01:16:26.320 --> 01:16:28.856 let's get this moving and get these 01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:31.816 changes made for South Melbourne. any 01:16:31.840 --> 01:16:33.655 opposition to this motion and any 01:16:33.679 --> 01:16:36.456 speakers wish to speak in opposition? 01:16:36.480 --> 01:16:37.736 No. In which case, are there any other 01:16:37.760 --> 01:16:40.760 speakers that wish to add to the debate? 01:16:43.360 --> 01:16:46.360 If not, does the mover wish to close? 01:16:47.600 --> 01:16:49.655 The mover is putting the motion. There 01:16:49.679 --> 01:16:51.256 is a motion before us. Let's take that 01:16:51.280 --> 01:16:53.736 to a vote. 01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:56.215 That motion is carried unanimously. 01:16:56.239 --> 01:16:58.135 Thank you. 01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:01.159 takes us now to item 10.2, 01:17:02.320 --> 01:17:04.536 the road safety strategy and action plan 01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:06.856 and committee consultation. Are there 01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:09.496 any questions for officers this evening 01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:12.520 to this item? 01:17:13.120 --> 01:17:15.175 Yes, councelor Halliday. thank 01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:16.376 you, Mayor. I had one question. I 01:17:16.400 --> 01:17:17.655 couldn't work out where to put it, so I 01:17:17.679 --> 01:17:19.576 decided to put it here. Um just 01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:22.600 wondering that um I've I understand that 01:17:22.960 --> 01:17:25.496 we council has a program of identifying 01:17:25.520 --> 01:17:28.520 which of our roads have the um highest 01:17:29.679 --> 01:17:31.576 kind of proportion of vehicles that 01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:34.215 are traveling above the speed limit. Um, 01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:37.239 I'm wondering how that program is going 01:17:37.679 --> 01:17:40.616 and what we're proposing to do with this 01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:43.640 data by way of in interventions and um 01:17:44.080 --> 01:17:46.616 when we might see those interventions 01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:49.640 in our roads 01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:52.376 listen head of sorry head of 01:17:52.400 --> 01:17:54.616 transport. Thank you councelor Holiday 01:17:54.640 --> 01:17:57.175 and through you may um council does 01:17:57.199 --> 01:17:59.816 undertake regular traffic surveys on the 01:17:59.840 --> 01:18:02.056 local road network and that captures 01:18:02.080 --> 01:18:03.976 traffic speeds but also traffic volumes 01:18:04.000 --> 01:18:06.695 and the composition of vehicles 01:18:06.719 --> 01:18:09.016 traveling down the corridor. 01:18:09.040 --> 01:18:11.816 Um road safety interventions such as 01:18:11.840 --> 01:18:14.776 speed humps, road humps, curb extensions 01:18:14.800 --> 01:18:17.016 and the like um are generally 01:18:17.040 --> 01:18:19.576 prioritized based on a range of data but 01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:21.416 historic crash data being one of them, 01:18:21.440 --> 01:18:23.896 speeds as well, but also as best we can 01:18:23.920 --> 01:18:26.920 the the relative risk to um road safety 01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:30.199 on the network. Um and where possible 01:18:30.480 --> 01:18:32.616 such upgrades are really um which we do 01:18:32.640 --> 01:18:34.536 try and prioritize and integrate them 01:18:34.560 --> 01:18:37.560 with other capital works programs 01:18:37.679 --> 01:18:39.096 the council has including road 01:18:39.120 --> 01:18:41.256 maintenance um other streetscape 01:18:41.280 --> 01:18:43.896 upgrades and the like. So in doing in 01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:46.376 doing so that saves council money but 01:18:46.400 --> 01:18:47.976 also disruption for the community as 01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:51.000 well. um the scope and the time frames 01:18:51.040 --> 01:18:52.856 of those projects and those deliverables 01:18:52.880 --> 01:18:55.175 are really dependent on complexity of 01:18:55.199 --> 01:18:57.336 project but also the funding envelope 01:18:57.360 --> 01:19:00.360 that's provided to deliver the project. 01:19:00.800 --> 01:19:03.256 Any other questions? Councelor 01:19:03.280 --> 01:19:06.280 Buckingham. 01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:09.960 Many of the concerns raised by local 01:19:10.719 --> 01:19:12.776 residents in Balaclava ward relate to 01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:14.296 DTP 01:19:14.320 --> 01:19:17.320 roads. How does um 01:19:18.320 --> 01:19:21.320 the strategy and our council propose to 01:19:23.600 --> 01:19:26.600 work with DTP to address roads that 01:19:27.040 --> 01:19:30.040 are coming up time and time again and 01:19:30.719 --> 01:19:32.536 that we believe could potentially be 01:19:32.560 --> 01:19:34.056 unsafe. 01:19:34.080 --> 01:19:35.416 through you may thank you for the 01:19:35.440 --> 01:19:36.856 question. I might start and then John 01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:39.175 might have um some some thoughts as 01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:41.655 well. So I and I think for this 01:19:41.679 --> 01:19:43.576 strategy, this road safety strategy and 01:19:43.600 --> 01:19:44.936 action plan, this gives us a really 01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:47.816 solid foundation for where we're going 01:19:47.840 --> 01:19:49.336 with our road safety and what we want 01:19:49.360 --> 01:19:51.336 to do in terms of that clear framework 01:19:51.360 --> 01:19:53.175 and also what we're expecting in terms 01:19:53.199 --> 01:19:56.199 of our partnership with DTP. I think we 01:19:56.400 --> 01:19:58.856 are increasing our advocacy obviously in 01:19:58.880 --> 01:20:01.576 particular parts of the City and we 01:20:01.600 --> 01:20:04.296 have a program that will ongoing 01:20:04.320 --> 01:20:07.320 about how we can um ensure that DTP or 01:20:07.920 --> 01:20:09.896 the the things that we're asking for DTP 01:20:09.920 --> 01:20:11.655 are front and center in what we're 01:20:11.679 --> 01:20:13.896 advocating for and also as officers 01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:15.976 we're working closely with them to make 01:20:16.000 --> 01:20:17.416 sure the messages that we have here in 01:20:17.440 --> 01:20:19.496 the chamber from councilors are going 01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:20.856 back into those road improvements that 01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:23.256 they're responsible for. So we see this 01:20:23.280 --> 01:20:25.896 opportunity for this plan to give us 01:20:25.920 --> 01:20:28.056 good clear consistent advice and 01:20:28.080 --> 01:20:30.456 framework and this also aligns with what 01:20:30.480 --> 01:20:33.016 the state and federal government are 01:20:33.040 --> 01:20:34.695 also doing. So it gives us that 01:20:34.719 --> 01:20:36.456 opportunity to say hey look this is what 01:20:36.480 --> 01:20:38.056 we're doing and this is what we're 01:20:38.080 --> 01:20:41.080 expecting um on our state roads as well. 01:20:41.120 --> 01:20:42.856 So anything else 01:20:42.880 --> 01:20:45.880 councelor Timman? 01:20:46.080 --> 01:20:47.896 Yes, in the report it talks about a 01:20:47.920 --> 01:20:50.920 vision zero and a safe system and it 01:20:51.040 --> 01:20:53.816 recommends that we should not have any 01:20:53.840 --> 01:20:55.976 death or serious injuries on our roads 01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:58.536 by 2050. 01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:01.560 why do we have to wait that long? 01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:06.936 Through you Mayor and thank you for the 01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:09.416 question. So um there's two maybe two 01:21:09.440 --> 01:21:11.976 questions there. The vision zero is is a 01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:14.215 target and that's the the target we are 01:21:14.239 --> 01:21:16.856 all working towards. So, um, we'd love 01:21:16.880 --> 01:21:19.880 to get there a lot faster than 2050. And 01:21:19.920 --> 01:21:21.736 I think this is why we're putting these 01:21:21.760 --> 01:21:23.336 this sort of strategy and action in 01:21:23.360 --> 01:21:25.655 place and and the improvements. Um, but 01:21:25.679 --> 01:21:28.135 acknowledging it as a work to get there 01:21:28.159 --> 01:21:30.376 in terms of how we can do our work on 01:21:30.400 --> 01:21:32.215 our own local roads and as we've talked 01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:35.239 about um what we can push with DTP and 01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:36.856 ensuring those state that state 01:21:36.880 --> 01:21:39.416 intervention and and getting that 01:21:39.440 --> 01:21:41.096 getting towards that vision. Yeah. Do 01:21:41.120 --> 01:21:42.616 you want to talk about the safe? Yeah, I 01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:45.640 I would just add to that um that through 01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:49.560 you may the agreed 2050s does seem a 01:21:49.920 --> 01:21:52.920 long time to wait to um achieve zero 01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:54.856 fatalities on the network. The state 01:21:54.880 --> 01:21:57.880 governments is a state and federal um um 01:21:58.080 --> 01:22:00.376 vision. it's a target that we're 01:22:00.400 --> 01:22:02.776 aligning to, but it's also the target of 01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:05.175 the Victorian governments to half the um 01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:08.199 fatal and serious injuries by 2030. So 01:22:08.800 --> 01:22:11.016 it's um it is a staged approach and we 01:22:11.040 --> 01:22:13.096 appreciate that we can't do it overnight 01:22:13.120 --> 01:22:15.336 nor in a decade but it's it's 01:22:15.360 --> 01:22:16.536 certainly a target that is worth 01:22:16.560 --> 01:22:19.096 achieving. 01:22:19.120 --> 01:22:21.096 Any further questions? Councelor 01:22:21.120 --> 01:22:22.376 Halliday. 01:22:22.400 --> 01:22:25.016 in the in the strategy here we refer 01:22:25.040 --> 01:22:27.816 to modal modal filters as one of the 01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:30.840 tools that we have to um to use to 01:22:32.960 --> 01:22:35.816 you know reduce traffic flows through 01:22:35.840 --> 01:22:37.655 certain streets. I'm just wondering at 01:22:37.679 --> 01:22:40.679 what part of the action plan would we 01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:43.175 see those um those sorts of 01:22:43.199 --> 01:22:46.199 interventions deployed and how can you 01:22:47.440 --> 01:22:49.336 know residents of streets who would like 01:22:49.360 --> 01:22:51.175 to be considered for such an 01:22:51.199 --> 01:22:54.199 intervention um you know get involved. 01:22:56.480 --> 01:22:58.215 thank you councel day and through you 01:22:58.239 --> 01:23:01.175 Mayor. Um I think it's a it's a valid 01:23:01.199 --> 01:23:02.776 question. The intent of this strategy 01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:05.096 isn't to pinpoint specific interventions 01:23:05.120 --> 01:23:07.096 at any specific location. It's more to 01:23:07.120 --> 01:23:08.936 provide the general framework for us to 01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:10.376 for council officers to guide council 01:23:10.400 --> 01:23:11.896 officers in terms of their 01:23:11.920 --> 01:23:14.296 recommendations. I think your point on 01:23:14.320 --> 01:23:15.976 how communities can be more engaged. 01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:16.856 which I think that's something that's 01:23:16.880 --> 01:23:19.880 very we're very mindful of and um 01:23:20.400 --> 01:23:23.400 looking to um enhance and develop and 01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:26.215 potentially not come to communities 01:23:26.239 --> 01:23:29.239 with a set um solution but potentially 01:23:30.239 --> 01:23:32.456 pitch a range of solutions or or pitch 01:23:32.480 --> 01:23:34.536 the problem to the community to get 01:23:34.560 --> 01:23:37.096 input from them at an earlier stage. So 01:23:37.120 --> 01:23:38.936 that would be their opportunity to say 01:23:38.960 --> 01:23:41.960 specific interventions such as um modal 01:23:42.080 --> 01:23:43.576 filters 01:23:43.600 --> 01:23:45.496 and and if I can just through you me 01:23:45.520 --> 01:23:47.576 quickly and also obviously we're hoping 01:23:47.600 --> 01:23:49.576 this is about the strategy going out for 01:23:49.600 --> 01:23:51.256 engagement. So we're really hoping we 01:23:51.280 --> 01:23:53.016 get that engagement from our community 01:23:53.040 --> 01:23:55.576 and through the councilors can can share 01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:57.016 that so we can get that feedback and 01:23:57.040 --> 01:23:58.936 ensure we've got a really robust 01:23:58.960 --> 01:24:00.695 strategy and action plan that comes back 01:24:00.719 --> 01:24:02.776 to you next year. 01:24:02.800 --> 01:24:05.016 Councelor Tam, did you have a question? 01:24:05.040 --> 01:24:06.856 Yes. So we so this document is obviously 01:24:06.880 --> 01:24:08.376 a draft and we're going for committee 01:24:08.400 --> 01:24:11.256 consultation. So are we expecting people 01:24:11.280 --> 01:24:14.280 to come you know to to talk to us at a 01:24:14.639 --> 01:24:17.175 strategic level or can they just come up 01:24:17.199 --> 01:24:19.896 with mundane you know street 01:24:19.920 --> 01:24:22.776 corners or you know other you know 01:24:22.800 --> 01:24:25.800 more kind of um direct sort of issues 01:24:27.760 --> 01:24:30.760 that create an area unsafe. 01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:35.175 um through you Mayor and thank you for 01:24:35.199 --> 01:24:36.856 the question. So I think this certainly 01:24:36.880 --> 01:24:39.175 is a strategy. So it is a framework and 01:24:39.199 --> 01:24:41.336 no doubt I think we will hear from 01:24:41.360 --> 01:24:44.360 community about particular things that 01:24:44.560 --> 01:24:46.456 they see the need for improvement which 01:24:46.480 --> 01:24:48.776 we can take through our usual processes. 01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:50.936 But we do also want to make sure that 01:24:50.960 --> 01:24:52.615 this framework and the approach that 01:24:52.639 --> 01:24:55.416 we're taking is sound and that the 01:24:55.440 --> 01:24:56.615 community agrees with it so it can 01:24:56.639 --> 01:24:58.056 underpin the work that we will be 01:24:58.080 --> 01:24:59.896 continuing to do in our neighborhoods 01:24:59.920 --> 01:25:01.256 and make sure we have the range of 01:25:01.280 --> 01:25:04.280 interventions set. So we we know we will 01:25:04.960 --> 01:25:06.536 hear from community on a range of things 01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:08.615 but we can take that and and put that 01:25:08.639 --> 01:25:11.639 into our usual processes as well for us 01:25:11.679 --> 01:25:14.679 for consideration. 01:25:15.120 --> 01:25:18.120 Any further questions? 01:25:19.840 --> 01:25:21.736 No further questions. All right. We have 01:25:21.760 --> 01:25:24.215 a recommendation. Sorry. 01:25:24.239 --> 01:25:26.215 Oh 01:25:26.239 --> 01:25:27.896 I was just about to get to that. We have 01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:30.135 a mover. Movor 01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:32.215 seconded. Councelor Thomann. Does the 01:25:32.239 --> 01:25:35.239 mover wish to open the debate 01:25:38.080 --> 01:25:41.080 though? Do I though? Um 01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:45.655 the 01:25:45.679 --> 01:25:48.376 our roads, you know, among other things 01:25:48.400 --> 01:25:51.400 are an area of um incredible 01:25:52.639 --> 01:25:55.639 interaction and contention and 01:25:57.120 --> 01:25:58.695 conflict 01:25:58.719 --> 01:26:01.719 leading to injuries, leading to um 01:26:01.840 --> 01:26:03.576 despair when you can't find a parking 01:26:03.600 --> 01:26:06.600 spot. um or leading to people just 01:26:07.280 --> 01:26:09.576 you know decompressing 01:26:09.600 --> 01:26:12.215 driving somewhere away from whatever 01:26:12.239 --> 01:26:15.175 their concerns of their life are. Um 01:26:15.199 --> 01:26:16.856 which is a bit philosophical but I think 01:26:16.880 --> 01:26:18.695 the key point here is that this this 01:26:18.719 --> 01:26:21.256 strategy gives us um gives us a 01:26:21.280 --> 01:26:24.280 direction to increase the safety on our 01:26:24.639 --> 01:26:27.336 roads. It gives us a range of tools to 01:26:27.360 --> 01:26:29.896 use, to implement throughout our City 01:26:29.920 --> 01:26:32.920 here to make our roads safer to improve 01:26:33.360 --> 01:26:36.360 the amenity of them um around the roads 01:26:37.600 --> 01:26:40.600 um in support of the of the safety of 01:26:41.360 --> 01:26:43.816 our road users, our pedestrians, our 01:26:43.840 --> 01:26:46.456 cyclists, our vehicle drivers, our kids 01:26:46.480 --> 01:26:49.480 going to schools. um all of these people 01:26:50.159 --> 01:26:53.159 people with disabilities who use 01:26:53.280 --> 01:26:55.496 mobility devices who also need to na 01:26:55.520 --> 01:26:57.896 navigate these environments as well. So, 01:26:57.920 --> 01:26:59.416 I think this is an incredibly important 01:26:59.440 --> 01:27:01.736 piece of work for us and um hopefully it 01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:03.336 lays a good framework for us over the 01:27:03.360 --> 01:27:05.655 next three years as we um seek to 01:27:05.679 --> 01:27:07.896 implement these changes that will lead 01:27:07.920 --> 01:27:10.920 to um those reductions in the the 01:27:12.880 --> 01:27:15.880 terrible um injuries and deaths that 01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:19.816 occur on our roads all too frequently. 01:27:19.840 --> 01:27:22.615 So I fully support this work um here at 01:27:22.639 --> 01:27:24.456 the strategic level but also at the 01:27:24.480 --> 01:27:26.615 implementation of all of the all of the 01:27:26.639 --> 01:27:28.936 ideas and recommendations here. 01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:30.296 Thank you councelor Halliday. Does 01:27:30.320 --> 01:27:32.056 the secondary council tamaran wish to 01:27:32.080 --> 01:27:32.936 speak? 01:27:32.960 --> 01:27:35.960 Yeah. So in I suppose many councils 01:27:36.480 --> 01:27:38.856 or cities the people who navigate 01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:41.880 through the cities locals but um in 01:27:42.960 --> 01:27:44.695 our City we do have a lot of people 01:27:44.719 --> 01:27:47.655 coming from the other suburbs you know 01:27:47.679 --> 01:27:50.215 going to work or visiting the City and 01:27:50.239 --> 01:27:53.239 so which makes and plus all the visitors 01:27:53.280 --> 01:27:56.280 etc. So this adds complexities and 01:27:56.800 --> 01:27:59.800 challenges to us the safety on our roads 01:28:00.639 --> 01:28:03.639 and I think it's important that due 01:28:03.840 --> 01:28:06.215 to the fact that we have a lot of cars 01:28:06.239 --> 01:28:09.175 and others traveling through or but 01:28:09.199 --> 01:28:10.615 it's important that we take that 01:28:10.639 --> 01:28:13.576 seriously and as I said before 01:28:13.600 --> 01:28:15.016 hopefully we don't have to wait for that 01:28:15.040 --> 01:28:17.576 long at least for not you know even if 01:28:17.600 --> 01:28:19.976 it's a state objective maybe we can do 01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:22.776 better in our City of Port Phillip and 01:28:22.800 --> 01:28:25.416 and have less casualties in our City 01:28:25.440 --> 01:28:28.440 and not have to wait until I'm 90 years 01:28:28.880 --> 01:28:31.880 old. 01:28:32.239 --> 01:28:35.016 Anyone wish to speak in opposition to 01:28:35.040 --> 01:28:38.040 this motion? Do any other counselors 01:28:38.159 --> 01:28:41.016 wish to speak to this motion? Councelor 01:28:41.040 --> 01:28:42.536 Hardy. 01:28:42.560 --> 01:28:45.560 Yes, I eagerly read the vehicles of 01:28:45.679 --> 01:28:47.896 the future paragraph where it says that 01:28:47.920 --> 01:28:49.816 vehicles are changing rapidly and also 01:28:49.840 --> 01:28:51.336 this council is ensuring new 01:28:51.360 --> 01:28:53.576 infrastructure complements and maximizes 01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:56.135 the benefits of emerging vehicle safety 01:28:56.159 --> 01:28:59.159 technologies. To take councelor Furman's 01:28:59.440 --> 01:29:02.440 point is um in 2050 I think vehicles 01:29:02.480 --> 01:29:04.376 will be driving us. We won't be driving 01:29:04.400 --> 01:29:07.400 them. 01:29:07.520 --> 01:29:10.376 I'll still be walking. 01:29:10.400 --> 01:29:12.296 Any other councilors wish to speak to 01:29:12.320 --> 01:29:15.320 this motion? 01:29:18.080 --> 01:29:20.376 I just want to thank the officers for 01:29:20.400 --> 01:29:23.096 the work that's gone into this and um 01:29:23.120 --> 01:29:24.856 encourage members of our community to 01:29:24.880 --> 01:29:26.856 engage in the consultation process. This 01:29:26.880 --> 01:29:29.880 is so important to our well-being in the 01:29:30.800 --> 01:29:33.336 City of Port Phillip. Um obviously when 01:29:33.360 --> 01:29:36.360 there are um injuries and and um and 01:29:38.639 --> 01:29:40.376 casualties it's it's absolutely 01:29:40.400 --> 01:29:42.296 devastating for that individual but it 01:29:42.320 --> 01:29:44.776 also impacts on how we move around even 01:29:44.800 --> 01:29:47.800 how we parent. I know that um parents of 01:29:47.840 --> 01:29:50.840 young children road safety is perhaps 01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:53.736 one of their number one concerns um for 01:29:53.760 --> 01:29:55.976 their for their kids moving around. And 01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:57.816 I just need to do a shout out for the 01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:00.840 people of Rip and Lee that speak to me 01:30:00.880 --> 01:30:02.776 on a daily basis about reducing the 01:30:02.800 --> 01:30:05.800 speed limit along the Glenara road. Um 01:30:06.320 --> 01:30:09.320 we know that this road safety issues and 01:30:09.520 --> 01:30:11.896 that are captured in this strategy 01:30:11.920 --> 01:30:14.920 affect people daily and um I'm looking 01:30:15.520 --> 01:30:17.896 forward to particularly tackling that 01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:20.920 particular challenge in my ward. Any 01:30:21.920 --> 01:30:24.920 other councilors wish to speak to this 01:30:25.360 --> 01:30:28.360 motion? Would the mover wish to close? 01:30:28.800 --> 01:30:31.016 Yeah. Um, just picking up on that point, 01:30:31.040 --> 01:30:33.256 I I always told my kids that your only 01:30:33.280 --> 01:30:35.976 natural enemy is the motor vehicle. Um, 01:30:36.000 --> 01:30:37.496 they don't have to worry about anything 01:30:37.520 --> 01:30:40.520 else in this world apart from cars. Um, 01:30:41.199 --> 01:30:44.135 which is a a really um shitty thing to 01:30:44.159 --> 01:30:47.159 have to tell someone. Um, and the only 01:30:47.440 --> 01:30:49.655 observation I have apart from this is 01:30:49.679 --> 01:30:52.679 just how hard it is to get these road 01:30:53.120 --> 01:30:56.120 safety upgrades actually implemented. We 01:30:56.239 --> 01:30:59.239 fight all the time with TTP. We fight 01:30:59.679 --> 01:31:01.655 for the budget for these things be, you 01:31:01.679 --> 01:31:03.736 know, because of all the requirements we 01:31:03.760 --> 01:31:05.816 put in. We It's hard even to get a 01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:08.215 pedestrian crossing put in as Lou would 01:31:08.239 --> 01:31:10.536 know from the years that I nagged her 01:31:10.560 --> 01:31:13.096 from the other side. Um, and I'm I'm 01:31:13.120 --> 01:31:15.576 learning about now. Yeah, I'm still 01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:18.376 nagging. I didn't stop. Um, so I don't 01:31:18.400 --> 01:31:19.896 know what we can do about that other 01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:22.376 than, um, you know, advocate and 01:31:22.400 --> 01:31:24.056 advocate and advocate to get these 01:31:24.080 --> 01:31:26.376 things to happen. Um, but it feels like 01:31:26.400 --> 01:31:29.175 they should not be as hard as they are. 01:31:29.199 --> 01:31:32.056 Um, which is just a cry into the dark 01:31:32.080 --> 01:31:33.576 for this one. So, let's vote on it and 01:31:33.600 --> 01:31:36.536 get it done. And on that note, the 01:31:36.560 --> 01:31:38.296 motion is being put. So, let's take it 01:31:38.320 --> 01:31:41.320 to a vote. All those in favor, the 01:31:41.440 --> 01:31:44.440 motion is carried unanimously. 01:31:47.199 --> 01:31:48.936 Thank you. before we move on to the 01:31:48.960 --> 01:31:51.416 next item, we will take a 5minut break. 01:31:51.440 --> 01:31:54.440 So we'll come back at 8:17 p.m. 01:31:58.320 --> 01:32:00.536 All right, welcome back people and 01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:03.560 thank you. We are now moving on to item 01:32:04.400 --> 01:32:07.400 11.1, the footpath trading fee policy. 01:32:08.800 --> 01:32:11.416 Recalling that we one of our counselors 01:32:11.440 --> 01:32:13.016 has a conflict of interest on this item. 01:32:13.040 --> 01:32:14.615 Councelor Thomann. 01:32:14.639 --> 01:32:17.576 Yes. so I will leave the chamber for 01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:19.976 while you're discussing this item. 01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:23.000 having a business in Silda and 01:32:23.360 --> 01:32:25.655 actually paying footpath trading 01:32:25.679 --> 01:32:28.296 fees. I definitely have a conflict even 01:32:28.320 --> 01:32:30.695 if I believe that the fees are going to 01:32:30.719 --> 01:32:32.615 be less next year than last year. 01:32:32.639 --> 01:32:34.615 You have a material interest. Thank you 01:32:34.639 --> 01:32:37.639 councelor Timman. Welcome and goodbye. 01:32:42.400 --> 01:32:45.400 See you soon. 01:32:46.080 --> 01:32:49.080 You're always welcome. Councelor Thomann. 01:32:53.360 --> 01:32:55.655 Councelor Tman has exited the chamber 01:32:55.679 --> 01:32:57.736 and therefore we now have an opportunity 01:32:57.760 --> 01:33:00.296 for councilors to ask any questions to 01:33:00.320 --> 01:33:02.135 this item. Are there any questions on 01:33:02.159 --> 01:33:05.159 the item before us? 01:33:07.440 --> 01:33:10.440 No. Okay. Yes, councelor Halliday 01:33:10.719 --> 01:33:13.655 question. 01:33:13.679 --> 01:33:16.679 just wondering how we came to 01:33:19.199 --> 01:33:22.199 um determine what reasonable rates are 01:33:22.560 --> 01:33:25.560 for you know the the chairs and tables 01:33:25.679 --> 01:33:27.976 and the A-frames in this 01:33:28.000 --> 01:33:31.000 recommendation. 01:33:33.520 --> 01:33:36.215 um through you Mayor. So we started off 01:33:36.239 --> 01:33:38.615 with the current rates of charge to 01:33:38.639 --> 01:33:41.639 traders um to model various options 01:33:44.159 --> 01:33:47.159 and methods of charging traders that 01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:50.615 would um be fair for the commercial use 01:33:50.639 --> 01:33:53.639 of public land. we've also looked at 01:33:54.400 --> 01:33:57.336 benchmarking of neighboring um councils 01:33:57.360 --> 01:34:00.296 and their methods of charging to 01:34:00.320 --> 01:34:03.320 determine rates that would 01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:07.000 would be suitable for the main precincts 01:34:07.440 --> 01:34:09.256 where there's higher foot traffic 01:34:09.280 --> 01:34:12.280 compared to the neighborhood areas 01:34:12.320 --> 01:34:14.856 where there's less. 01:34:14.880 --> 01:34:16.776 Thank you Mark Jay for answering that 01:34:16.800 --> 01:34:18.936 question. Any other questions for 01:34:18.960 --> 01:34:21.960 officers to this item? Councelor 01:34:23.199 --> 01:34:25.336 Buckingham, 01:34:25.360 --> 01:34:28.360 how will um this policy interact with 01:34:29.360 --> 01:34:32.360 our budget process and how will um the 01:34:33.679 --> 01:34:36.456 process that we go through to decide the 01:34:36.480 --> 01:34:37.976 budget 01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:40.056 um 01:34:40.080 --> 01:34:41.976 how will that potentially change the 01:34:42.000 --> 01:34:45.000 outcomes in relation to the policy 01:34:45.920 --> 01:34:48.536 for you may? So tonight the um the 01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:51.560 policy is setting the the key change 01:34:51.760 --> 01:34:53.976 which is instead of charging per item of 01:34:54.000 --> 01:34:57.000 furniture charging per square meter. 01:34:57.600 --> 01:34:59.976 We've nominated two rates of charge 01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:03.000 being a standard and a discounted rate. 01:35:03.280 --> 01:35:05.976 During the budget process early next 01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:08.135 year there will be another opportunity 01:35:08.159 --> 01:35:10.536 to review the actual final rates of 01:35:10.560 --> 01:35:13.175 charge for each of the nine fees that 01:35:13.199 --> 01:35:15.096 we're proposing. 01:35:15.120 --> 01:35:17.016 Any 01:35:17.040 --> 01:35:19.816 further questions? Councelor Crawford, 01:35:19.840 --> 01:35:21.736 I shouldn't be able to remember this. 01:35:21.760 --> 01:35:23.256 Um, 01:35:23.280 --> 01:35:26.135 is have we considered about doing um 01:35:26.159 --> 01:35:29.096 renewal on a like a two-yearly basis? Is 01:35:29.120 --> 01:35:31.175 that would that save on like a renewal 01:35:31.199 --> 01:35:33.336 fee or officer admin is something that 01:35:33.360 --> 01:35:35.175 we can have considered and it's 01:35:35.199 --> 01:35:38.199 practical or not practical? 01:35:38.639 --> 01:35:39.816 Thank you for the question and through 01:35:39.840 --> 01:35:42.376 you may that is something that we have 01:35:42.400 --> 01:35:44.215 considered. It's not something that 01:35:44.239 --> 01:35:46.776 we've yet implemented. 01:35:46.800 --> 01:35:49.800 What we do find through um with the um 01:35:50.320 --> 01:35:52.376 hospitality industry, there is a 01:35:52.400 --> 01:35:55.256 reasonable reasonably high um turnover 01:35:55.280 --> 01:35:58.280 of businesses. So there is um a 01:35:58.880 --> 01:36:01.880 challenge in permitting over a 2-year 01:36:02.480 --> 01:36:05.416 basis and one year seems to fit the 01:36:05.440 --> 01:36:07.576 industry for us at the moment, but we 01:36:07.600 --> 01:36:09.175 are familiar that other councils do it 01:36:09.199 --> 01:36:10.215 differently. 01:36:10.239 --> 01:36:13.016 And could I ask a followup, please? Um, 01:36:13.040 --> 01:36:15.576 and when then when I look at the rate of 01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:18.376 say for an A-frame, there is a renewal 01:36:18.400 --> 01:36:21.096 fee. Does that does that also apply to 01:36:21.120 --> 01:36:22.856 the furniture there's a renewal fee? And 01:36:22.880 --> 01:36:24.615 what does that that renewal fee kind of 01:36:24.639 --> 01:36:27.639 cover each year 01:36:28.400 --> 01:36:30.615 through you may? The renewal fee is for 01:36:30.639 --> 01:36:33.336 the annual administration um of the 01:36:33.360 --> 01:36:36.360 permitting process. So for each each 01:36:37.280 --> 01:36:39.655 trader and their permit they get a 01:36:39.679 --> 01:36:42.679 renewal and um in most instances we're 01:36:43.520 --> 01:36:46.520 um setting up part payment plans and 01:36:47.040 --> 01:36:49.576 administering um approved plans and 01:36:49.600 --> 01:36:51.336 reissuing those. So there's a certain 01:36:51.360 --> 01:36:54.360 amount of admin whilst this really is um 01:36:54.480 --> 01:36:57.016 creating efficiencies there is still a 01:36:57.040 --> 01:36:58.615 small amount of admin involved for each 01:36:58.639 --> 01:37:01.639 trader. 01:37:01.760 --> 01:37:04.056 Any further questions? Any further 01:37:04.080 --> 01:37:06.215 questions? Councelor Halliday. so 01:37:06.239 --> 01:37:07.736 that new application fee and that 01:37:07.760 --> 01:37:09.416 renewal fee that we see here, they are 01:37:09.440 --> 01:37:12.135 the same for regardless of whether 01:37:12.159 --> 01:37:14.536 you're getting an A-frame or or tables 01:37:14.560 --> 01:37:17.256 and chairs or some mix of those. Is that 01:37:17.280 --> 01:37:19.256 correct? Am I reading that right 01:37:19.280 --> 01:37:20.776 for you? Mayor, that is correct. There's 01:37:20.800 --> 01:37:23.576 a a standard renewal fee or application 01:37:23.600 --> 01:37:26.215 fee. 01:37:26.239 --> 01:37:29.239 Any council J question? Um, what is the 01:37:31.440 --> 01:37:33.976 permit fee on a table and what is the 01:37:34.000 --> 01:37:37.000 renewal fee on a table and chairs? 01:37:38.320 --> 01:37:41.095 Sorry, I sprung that one on you. I think 01:37:41.119 --> 01:37:43.095 in my mind a table and four chairs was 01:37:43.119 --> 01:37:46.119 $145 annually and I just wasn't sure 01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:48.936 where my maths had come from and that 01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:51.256 includes the renewal and the application 01:37:51.280 --> 01:37:53.256 fee. 01:37:53.280 --> 01:37:54.776 Thank 01:37:54.800 --> 01:37:57.800 you, May. So, the application fee, um, 01:37:58.800 --> 01:38:00.376 we're talking about tables and chairs, 01:38:00.400 --> 01:38:03.400 not advertising boards. 01:38:07.040 --> 01:38:10.040 Excuse me. 01:38:12.320 --> 01:38:15.320 So the application fee for new 01:38:15.760 --> 01:38:18.695 applications is the $136 01:38:18.719 --> 01:38:21.655 unless it's for the fixed item such as 01:38:21.679 --> 01:38:23.976 glass screens or retractable awnings. 01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:26.376 Then it's $283.50. 01:38:26.400 --> 01:38:28.615 That's what's proposed. 01:38:28.639 --> 01:38:31.639 So that application fee, the $136 is 01:38:32.480 --> 01:38:34.936 what also applies for tables and chairs 01:38:34.960 --> 01:38:37.816 um or advertising boards. 01:38:37.840 --> 01:38:40.215 The standard rate that's been proposed 01:38:40.239 --> 01:38:43.095 is for tables and chairs is $75 per 01:38:43.119 --> 01:38:44.936 square meter. 01:38:44.960 --> 01:38:47.416 We normally look at one table and four 01:38:47.440 --> 01:38:50.440 chairs with patrons being an average of 01:38:50.639 --> 01:38:53.639 one square meter per patron. So yeah, 75 01:38:53.840 --> 01:38:56.840 times the four that would be the rate. 01:38:58.080 --> 01:39:00.296 Sorry, um I'm very literal. So if I had 01:39:00.320 --> 01:39:03.320 a table and four chairs, it would be $75 01:39:03.440 --> 01:39:06.440 plus theund 01:39:07.920 --> 01:39:10.920 What? What? 01:39:12.639 --> 01:39:15.639 So I'm I'm I'm just 01:39:15.840 --> 01:39:18.376 for a table and chair there is the 01:39:18.400 --> 01:39:21.400 initial application fee of $263 01:39:22.320 --> 01:39:24.615 and that's annual 01:39:24.639 --> 01:39:26.776 three. No, the application fee for 01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:29.800 tables and chairs would be $136. 01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:31.175 Yep. 01:39:31.199 --> 01:39:34.199 And then they would pay at $75 per 01:39:35.760 --> 01:39:37.816 square meter for the tables and chairs 01:39:37.840 --> 01:39:40.135 as the permit fee. And then in the 01:39:40.159 --> 01:39:42.936 renewal the following year, there would 01:39:42.960 --> 01:39:45.960 be the renewal fee of $79 and then again 01:39:46.960 --> 01:39:49.960 the $75 per square meter. 01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:51.256 All right. But there's no new 01:39:51.280 --> 01:39:53.095 application fee in the second year for 01:39:53.119 --> 01:39:54.056 the tables and chairs. 01:39:54.080 --> 01:39:55.736 That's correct. And and I think that's 01:39:55.760 --> 01:39:57.976 what's jarring everybody because the 01:39:58.000 --> 01:39:59.576 A-frame which is 01:39:59.600 --> 01:40:01.736 councelor Joe it needs to be a question. 01:40:01.760 --> 01:40:04.760 Um why is there no 01:40:07.199 --> 01:40:09.256 recurring permit on the tables and 01:40:09.280 --> 01:40:11.175 chairs but there is on the on the 01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:13.496 A-frame 01:40:13.520 --> 01:40:15.976 you may there is a reoccurring fee on 01:40:16.000 --> 01:40:18.296 tables and chairs. The renewal fee 01:40:18.320 --> 01:40:20.296 applies the same as it does to an aboard 01:40:20.320 --> 01:40:21.016 permit. 01:40:21.040 --> 01:40:23.175 Okay. But is there an application fee? 01:40:23.199 --> 01:40:25.256 So, so I think what's happening with the 01:40:25.280 --> 01:40:28.280 A-frame is um 01:40:29.280 --> 01:40:31.816 I'm on the business advisory group. So, 01:40:31.840 --> 01:40:33.896 we meet with um a representative of all 01:40:33.920 --> 01:40:36.856 the traders now. They love this policy. 01:40:36.880 --> 01:40:39.256 They think it's um we've gone from 77 01:40:39.280 --> 01:40:41.896 different um pricing strategies to two. 01:40:41.920 --> 01:40:44.135 So, it's simplifying. People can 01:40:44.159 --> 01:40:45.816 calculate it themselves and we're hoping 01:40:45.840 --> 01:40:48.840 there will be more um tables and chairs 01:40:49.199 --> 01:40:51.336 because it really increases amenity. 01:40:51.360 --> 01:40:53.175 Where the confusion comes is you can get 01:40:53.199 --> 01:40:55.896 a table and four chairs um and get the 01:40:55.920 --> 01:40:58.456 A-frame for free and it's cheaper than 01:40:58.480 --> 01:41:01.175 just getting an A-frame. So the cost of 01:41:01.199 --> 01:41:04.199 an A-frame on average is you know 400 01:41:05.360 --> 01:41:06.456 and 01:41:06.480 --> 01:41:07.896 Could you frame that as a question 01:41:07.920 --> 01:41:10.920 please? 01:41:13.280 --> 01:41:16.280 No. 01:41:21.840 --> 01:41:24.840 Look, I I I I think we do want to get 01:41:24.960 --> 01:41:27.175 home. Um, we have had a lot of 01:41:27.199 --> 01:41:29.896 discussions about this and and and we 01:41:29.920 --> 01:41:31.736 all sense that something's just not 01:41:31.760 --> 01:41:34.760 quite right. Um, it it seems um a bit 01:41:36.080 --> 01:41:39.080 extreme to charge people $370 every year 01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:41.655 for one A-frame that's going to sit 01:41:41.679 --> 01:41:44.056 outside in the same position, you know, 01:41:44.080 --> 01:41:47.016 5 to seven days a week. Um, generally 01:41:47.040 --> 01:41:49.016 people would pay an application fee and 01:41:49.040 --> 01:41:51.736 then you would pay renewals every year 01:41:51.760 --> 01:41:54.760 once the initial application's done. So, 01:41:55.280 --> 01:41:57.496 um, I did want to raise an amendment um, 01:41:57.520 --> 01:41:58.936 bringing it a little bit in line. 01:41:58.960 --> 01:42:01.095 However, we had really detailed 01:42:01.119 --> 01:42:02.936 conversations and thank you Nelly and 01:42:02.960 --> 01:42:04.456 thank you councilors that this is 01:42:04.480 --> 01:42:06.776 actually part of the budget process. So, 01:42:06.800 --> 01:42:09.800 we will find a way to streamline the 01:42:10.159 --> 01:42:12.376 charges to appear a little bit more 01:42:12.400 --> 01:42:14.135 fairer and in line. 01:42:14.159 --> 01:42:15.976 We're still on questions. Councelor Jay, 01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:18.456 would you like to perhaps frame why 01:42:18.480 --> 01:42:20.456 is there a differential between A-frames 01:42:20.480 --> 01:42:23.175 and the tables and chairs? Would that be 01:42:23.199 --> 01:42:23.655 a question? 01:42:23.679 --> 01:42:25.175 I'll take the Mayor's question and I 01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:26.296 will stop 01:42:26.320 --> 01:42:28.056 for you councelor Jay. Would you like 01:42:28.080 --> 01:42:31.080 that question? 01:42:32.159 --> 01:42:33.816 So the question is 01:42:33.840 --> 01:42:35.336 the question is why is there a price 01:42:35.360 --> 01:42:37.256 differential between A-frames and the 01:42:37.280 --> 01:42:40.280 tables and chairs through councel? 01:42:43.600 --> 01:42:45.496 So 01:42:45.520 --> 01:42:48.296 the commercial use of public land for an 01:42:48.320 --> 01:42:51.175 advertising board um is slightly 01:42:51.199 --> 01:42:53.095 different. It's it's a different use. 01:42:53.119 --> 01:42:56.119 It's a standalone use. However, outdoor 01:42:56.480 --> 01:42:59.016 dining is never actually one square 01:42:59.040 --> 01:43:00.856 meter. So I appreciate that an 01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:03.576 advertising board occupies one square 01:43:03.600 --> 01:43:06.536 meter normally, 01:43:06.560 --> 01:43:09.256 but patron capaCity is never one square 01:43:09.280 --> 01:43:11.256 meter. So it's not really a direct 01:43:11.280 --> 01:43:13.655 comparison because um outdoor dining is 01:43:13.679 --> 01:43:16.135 always more than one square meter. So 01:43:16.159 --> 01:43:19.016 we've struck a one square meter rate as 01:43:19.040 --> 01:43:21.576 a unit cost as a way of charging outdoor 01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:24.600 dining whereas um the commercial use for 01:43:25.520 --> 01:43:27.095 advertising 01:43:27.119 --> 01:43:30.056 um the same as displays of goods um are 01:43:30.080 --> 01:43:32.456 are charged at a different rate. And 01:43:32.480 --> 01:43:34.296 we've done a lot of benchmarking with 01:43:34.320 --> 01:43:37.095 neighboring councils to ensure that 01:43:37.119 --> 01:43:39.576 what we're doing is not dissimilar and 01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:42.135 that we're within the ballpark figure of 01:43:42.159 --> 01:43:44.456 what other councils are doing. Some 01:43:44.480 --> 01:43:46.376 are cheaper, some are more expensive and 01:43:46.400 --> 01:43:48.695 we've landed somewhere in the middle. 01:43:48.719 --> 01:43:50.456 through you, Mayor. Can I just add, 01:43:50.480 --> 01:43:51.896 we're obviously trying to achieve 01:43:51.920 --> 01:43:54.056 vibrancy and activation of our activity 01:43:54.080 --> 01:43:56.536 centers and um some of the pricing and 01:43:56.560 --> 01:43:58.376 and what my colleague talked about in 01:43:58.400 --> 01:43:59.736 terms of what we want to see on that 01:43:59.760 --> 01:44:01.655 public land, what kind of activation and 01:44:01.679 --> 01:44:03.655 use of that space is appropriate in 01:44:03.679 --> 01:44:05.976 those areas. Permitting allows us to 01:44:06.000 --> 01:44:08.456 ensure that that is done in a safe and 01:44:08.480 --> 01:44:11.175 equitable and fair way. Um and we hope 01:44:11.199 --> 01:44:13.416 that that's reflected in the fee policy 01:44:13.440 --> 01:44:16.376 that you're looking through tonight. 01:44:16.400 --> 01:44:18.615 Thank you. Any further questions? 01:44:18.639 --> 01:44:21.576 Councelor Halliday. 01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:23.256 just just following up on some of 01:44:23.280 --> 01:44:25.256 these thoughts here. If we were to have 01:44:25.280 --> 01:44:27.816 a look at all of the um the permits that 01:44:27.840 --> 01:44:30.135 we have across all of our um high 01:44:30.159 --> 01:44:32.936 streets at the amount of square meterage 01:44:32.960 --> 01:44:35.960 on average or you know typically um we 01:44:37.199 --> 01:44:39.496 see there, you know, what's the what's 01:44:39.520 --> 01:44:41.816 the kind of smallest square meterage 01:44:41.840 --> 01:44:44.615 that we would think we might see? you 01:44:44.639 --> 01:44:46.376 know, is it is it the four or is it 01:44:46.400 --> 01:44:48.376 something like eight or whatever? And 01:44:48.400 --> 01:44:50.376 what's the largest square meterage that 01:44:50.400 --> 01:44:53.400 we would see across our streets 01:44:53.520 --> 01:44:56.520 without notice? Apologies. 01:44:57.600 --> 01:44:58.936 Yeah, thank you. Three you may. I've 01:44:58.960 --> 01:45:01.256 just spoken to a colleague here with 01:45:01.280 --> 01:45:03.816 the details. So, the smaller cafes may 01:45:03.840 --> 01:45:06.695 have just like four square meters um and 01:45:06.719 --> 01:45:08.695 you know, two tables of two, something 01:45:08.719 --> 01:45:10.695 very small depending on footpath 01:45:10.719 --> 01:45:13.095 capaCity. um up to some of the largest 01:45:13.119 --> 01:45:15.016 venues could have 70 to 80 square 01:45:15.040 --> 01:45:18.040 meters. 01:45:18.560 --> 01:45:21.095 Any further further questions to 01:45:21.119 --> 01:45:24.119 officers? 01:45:24.480 --> 01:45:26.856 We have a recommendation before us. 01:45:26.880 --> 01:45:28.536 Would someone like to move that or 01:45:28.560 --> 01:45:30.776 something different? Councelor Jay 01:45:30.800 --> 01:45:32.615 moving 01:45:32.639 --> 01:45:35.639 seconded. Councelor Hardy. Councelor 01:45:36.000 --> 01:45:37.816 Jay, the floor is yours to open the 01:45:37.840 --> 01:45:40.056 debate. I think I've taken up enough of 01:45:40.080 --> 01:45:43.080 the floor already. Um, 01:45:45.920 --> 01:45:47.976 everyone's getting hungry. No, look, 01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:49.655 look, thank you counselors for the 01:45:49.679 --> 01:45:51.175 conversation. We have been having this 01:45:51.199 --> 01:45:52.615 conversation since the beginning. It 01:45:52.639 --> 01:45:54.376 wasn't just sprung on on on us today. 01:45:54.400 --> 01:45:56.296 And thank you for answering those 01:45:56.320 --> 01:45:58.056 questions. I hope it's clearer to all 01:45:58.080 --> 01:45:59.576 the community, especially the business 01:45:59.600 --> 01:46:02.600 community listening at home. Um we will 01:46:03.199 --> 01:46:04.936 continue as councilors to go through the 01:46:04.960 --> 01:46:06.936 budget process and we will have another 01:46:06.960 --> 01:46:09.960 look at this when we get to the line um 01:46:11.040 --> 01:46:13.655 um and just understand things a little 01:46:13.679 --> 01:46:16.679 bit better. 01:46:17.679 --> 01:46:19.496 The mover has spoken. Would the second 01:46:19.520 --> 01:46:21.896 like to add to the debate? 01:46:21.920 --> 01:46:24.135 No. 01:46:24.159 --> 01:46:26.135 Any opposition to this motion? No 01:46:26.159 --> 01:46:28.615 speakers in opposing. Would any other 01:46:28.639 --> 01:46:30.056 speakers like to contribute to the 01:46:30.080 --> 01:46:31.896 debate? Councelor Halliday. over to 01:46:31.920 --> 01:46:32.856 you. 01:46:32.880 --> 01:46:35.256 Um I'd just like to highlight here which 01:46:35.280 --> 01:46:36.536 one thing that we haven't discussed 01:46:36.560 --> 01:46:39.496 which is the um the significant 01:46:39.520 --> 01:46:41.896 reduction of fees that this new policy 01:46:41.920 --> 01:46:44.920 represents across our our City from um 01:46:45.440 --> 01:46:48.440 over $200,000 less charges that these 01:46:50.000 --> 01:46:52.456 businesses will be seeing through this 01:46:52.480 --> 01:46:55.480 new policy. and and that seems like a a 01:46:56.800 --> 01:46:59.800 um unequivocal benefit for everyone 01:47:01.199 --> 01:47:04.199 involved in this new policy. Um so I I 01:47:06.719 --> 01:47:09.336 can't see how someone would be 01:47:09.360 --> 01:47:11.976 disappointed with this. 01:47:12.000 --> 01:47:14.215 Any other speakers wish to contribute to 01:47:14.239 --> 01:47:17.239 the debate on this item? 01:47:17.840 --> 01:47:20.215 Would the mover like to close? 01:47:20.239 --> 01:47:22.215 Look, I do commend the simpliCity of 01:47:22.239 --> 01:47:25.239 this policy. It is um going to make our 01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:29.000 retailers um just happier and and and 01:47:29.920 --> 01:47:32.920 able to promote their businesses better. 01:47:35.760 --> 01:47:38.056 I will now put that motion to the vote. 01:47:38.080 --> 01:47:41.080 All in favor? That motion is carried 01:47:41.920 --> 01:47:44.920 unanimously. 01:47:45.199 --> 01:47:47.095 Thank you very much for answering 01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:48.615 those questions and thank you councelor 01:47:48.639 --> 01:47:50.536 Jay for raising the views of the 01:47:50.560 --> 01:47:52.376 business advisory group too through that 01:47:52.400 --> 01:47:53.655 item. 01:47:53.679 --> 01:47:55.576 I'll still cop it next week but it's all 01:47:55.600 --> 01:47:57.336 right. 01:47:57.360 --> 01:48:00.360 Councelor Thomann, welcome back. 01:48:12.880 --> 01:48:15.880 We're now on to item 12.1, the committee 01:48:16.080 --> 01:48:17.816 engagement policy. Are there any 01:48:17.840 --> 01:48:20.135 questions for officers in relation to 01:48:20.159 --> 01:48:23.159 item 12.1 this evening? 01:48:23.280 --> 01:48:24.056 Question. 01:48:24.080 --> 01:48:25.655 Yes, 01:48:25.679 --> 01:48:27.256 councelor Jay. 01:48:27.280 --> 01:48:30.135 Um, what is the purpose of community 01:48:30.159 --> 01:48:33.159 engagement? 01:48:33.760 --> 01:48:35.576 Monique Cosgrove, head of stakeholder 01:48:35.600 --> 01:48:38.600 engagement. 01:48:41.199 --> 01:48:43.095 forgot to press the thing. Thank you for 01:48:43.119 --> 01:48:45.175 the question and through you may um the 01:48:45.199 --> 01:48:47.416 purpose of stakeholder of community 01:48:47.440 --> 01:48:49.416 engagement is to seek feedback from the 01:48:49.440 --> 01:48:51.416 community on issues that might affect 01:48:51.440 --> 01:48:54.440 them to inform council decision- making. 01:48:56.480 --> 01:48:58.135 Any further questions? Councelor J. 01:48:58.159 --> 01:48:59.816 And are we obliged to listen to the 01:48:59.840 --> 01:49:02.840 community and take on their feedback? 01:49:07.119 --> 01:49:10.056 Three, Mayor. 01:49:10.080 --> 01:49:11.095 Okay, 01:49:11.119 --> 01:49:12.695 great. Thank you. 01:49:12.719 --> 01:49:15.719 Um, we aren't obliged to take on their 01:49:16.320 --> 01:49:19.095 feedback. Um, it depends on the level of 01:49:19.119 --> 01:49:20.776 um, promise that we've made to the 01:49:20.800 --> 01:49:23.736 community according to the IAP2 spectrum 01:49:23.760 --> 01:49:26.760 that we're um, the policy is based on. 01:49:26.960 --> 01:49:29.960 Um we understand and and the policy aims 01:49:30.159 --> 01:49:32.296 to show that there are a number of 01:49:32.320 --> 01:49:34.615 factors that take um that need to be 01:49:34.639 --> 01:49:37.639 taken into consideration for any um 01:49:37.760 --> 01:49:40.760 decision. Might include things such as 01:49:40.960 --> 01:49:43.960 um resourcing best practice, subject 01:49:45.119 --> 01:49:48.119 matter expertise, um lived experience of 01:49:48.400 --> 01:49:51.400 counselors and so on. Um and all of 01:49:52.000 --> 01:49:53.175 those things are taken into 01:49:53.199 --> 01:49:56.199 consideration when making a decision. 01:49:57.760 --> 01:50:00.760 Councelor Thomann over to you. 01:50:01.119 --> 01:50:04.119 Do we have to engage on everything and 01:50:04.320 --> 01:50:07.175 how or when how do we decide of when we 01:50:07.199 --> 01:50:10.199 engage on a certain topic 01:50:11.119 --> 01:50:14.119 through you Mayor? We um 01:50:16.080 --> 01:50:19.080 we are required through the act to 01:50:20.159 --> 01:50:23.159 engage on anything substantial any 01:50:23.679 --> 01:50:25.496 substantial changes in the community 01:50:25.520 --> 01:50:28.520 that might affect community members. We 01:50:29.199 --> 01:50:32.199 um are also obliged to do a deliberative 01:50:32.719 --> 01:50:35.719 engagement practice um for our key 01:50:35.920 --> 01:50:38.920 council documents. So the council plan, 01:50:39.040 --> 01:50:42.040 um the community vision, the 01:50:44.800 --> 01:50:47.800 um asset plan and finance financial 01:50:48.719 --> 01:50:50.215 plan 01:50:50.239 --> 01:50:53.239 um and we if there is no room for 01:50:54.239 --> 01:50:56.215 community to provide feedback, we don't 01:50:56.239 --> 01:50:58.376 ask them for their feedback. If there's 01:50:58.400 --> 01:50:59.816 no room for them to influence the 01:50:59.840 --> 01:51:02.376 outcomes of a decision, then we try and 01:51:02.400 --> 01:51:04.456 as best as possible not to ask for their 01:51:04.480 --> 01:51:05.896 feedback because we know that that's not 01:51:05.920 --> 01:51:07.736 genuine engagement. We want to make sure 01:51:07.760 --> 01:51:10.135 that any engagement 01:51:10.159 --> 01:51:13.159 um they have um honest um and real 01:51:14.880 --> 01:51:17.880 impact on decision making. 01:51:19.600 --> 01:51:22.600 Any further questions? 01:51:23.440 --> 01:51:25.416 Councelor Halliday, 01:51:25.440 --> 01:51:28.376 you mentioned the API. I think the um 01:51:28.400 --> 01:51:30.376 spectrum here of of public 01:51:30.400 --> 01:51:33.400 participation. I I'm super interested in 01:51:34.480 --> 01:51:36.856 the the higher end of public 01:51:36.880 --> 01:51:38.456 participation. They're the empower and 01:51:38.480 --> 01:51:41.480 collaborate ends. Where do we typically, 01:51:41.760 --> 01:51:44.760 you know, employ um obviously empower at 01:51:46.400 --> 01:51:49.400 the election ballot? Um but do we employ 01:51:51.840 --> 01:51:53.736 have you got some examples of where we 01:51:53.760 --> 01:51:56.760 use the collaborate kind of model and 01:51:56.800 --> 01:51:59.800 any of the empower model at that level 01:52:00.960 --> 01:52:03.960 through you may um empower is very rare 01:52:04.960 --> 01:52:06.695 in local government setting as you 01:52:06.719 --> 01:52:09.719 mentioned it is um what we use for um 01:52:11.280 --> 01:52:14.135 the council elections it's very rarely 01:52:14.159 --> 01:52:17.159 done other than that um and not since 01:52:17.360 --> 01:52:19.256 I've been here have empowered the 01:52:19.280 --> 01:52:22.280 community to um make a decision um and 01:52:23.840 --> 01:52:25.736 and councilors actually have given that 01:52:25.760 --> 01:52:28.760 autonomy to the community. Um we use 01:52:28.960 --> 01:52:31.960 collaborate um and involve for for some 01:52:33.360 --> 01:52:36.360 projects where it might be a complex 01:52:36.880 --> 01:52:39.880 program where the community might have 01:52:39.920 --> 01:52:42.920 more of a um an impact on or where 01:52:44.639 --> 01:52:46.456 counselors would like the community to 01:52:46.480 --> 01:52:49.336 have more of a say in um the decision- 01:52:49.360 --> 01:52:51.336 making component. 01:52:51.360 --> 01:52:54.135 um some examples of where we've used 01:52:54.159 --> 01:52:55.896 that in practice. Obviously for the um 01:52:55.920 --> 01:52:58.695 the plan for Port Phillip, we we used um 01:52:58.719 --> 01:53:01.719 a collaborate level of in of um 01:53:02.080 --> 01:53:05.080 engagement. Um the urban forest strategy 01:53:05.280 --> 01:53:08.280 that won the award today um it was 01:53:08.400 --> 01:53:10.056 higher on the level of engagement as 01:53:10.080 --> 01:53:13.080 well. Currently tonight um they're doing 01:53:13.440 --> 01:53:15.496 a multicultural strategy which is a 01:53:15.520 --> 01:53:17.016 co-design 01:53:17.040 --> 01:53:19.976 process workshop to develop the um 01:53:20.000 --> 01:53:22.695 the strategy itself and that's happening 01:53:22.719 --> 01:53:25.016 downstairs. So there's there's a few 01:53:25.040 --> 01:53:27.095 instances most of our engagement 01:53:27.119 --> 01:53:30.119 programs happen happen within um the 01:53:30.880 --> 01:53:33.496 consult level the lower the lower level 01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:35.655 of the spectrum 01:53:35.679 --> 01:53:37.496 and we empower counselors to ask 01:53:37.520 --> 01:53:38.856 questions of officers. Over to you, 01:53:38.880 --> 01:53:41.575 Councelor Buckingham. 01:53:41.599 --> 01:53:44.599 How does the policy consider 01:53:44.800 --> 01:53:47.736 engagement with groups in our 01:53:47.760 --> 01:53:49.336 community that are particularly hard to 01:53:49.360 --> 01:53:52.360 reach such as or that unable to 01:53:53.679 --> 01:53:56.679 participate in conventional ways. for 01:53:56.800 --> 01:53:59.655 example, children or people from 01:53:59.679 --> 01:54:01.736 culturally linguistically diverse 01:54:01.760 --> 01:54:04.760 backgrounds or um people that have 01:54:04.800 --> 01:54:06.456 experienced homelessness and don't have 01:54:06.480 --> 01:54:09.480 access to technology. 01:54:10.560 --> 01:54:13.095 For you, Mayor, um the policy itself 01:54:13.119 --> 01:54:16.119 doesn't specify exactly our processes. 01:54:17.199 --> 01:54:20.199 What it does do is state um how that we 01:54:21.920 --> 01:54:24.615 will ta t tailor any engagement program 01:54:24.639 --> 01:54:27.016 directly to those stakeholder groups and 01:54:27.040 --> 01:54:30.040 make um information easy to access um 01:54:30.880 --> 01:54:32.776 and make sure that engagement is 01:54:32.800 --> 01:54:35.655 happening in a culturally um safe and 01:54:35.679 --> 01:54:37.816 appropriate manner. 01:54:37.840 --> 01:54:40.840 Um the um the policy will be underpinned 01:54:42.800 --> 01:54:45.800 by um some guidelines 01:54:46.800 --> 01:54:49.800 which um those guidelines will be um 01:54:49.920 --> 01:54:51.655 operational guidelines which will guide 01:54:51.679 --> 01:54:54.679 the direction of council officers and in 01:54:55.040 --> 01:54:56.776 within those guidelines there's some 01:54:56.800 --> 01:54:59.655 frameworks and how to engage with those 01:54:59.679 --> 01:55:01.496 populations that we might struggle to 01:55:01.520 --> 01:55:04.520 hear from. So children, older people, 01:55:04.880 --> 01:55:06.856 people of multicultural backgrounds and 01:55:06.880 --> 01:55:09.880 so on. 01:55:10.480 --> 01:55:12.296 Any further empowerment from counselors 01:55:12.320 --> 01:55:15.016 in questions that we wish to ask of 01:55:15.040 --> 01:55:17.736 officers for this item? 01:55:17.760 --> 01:55:20.615 councelor Hel is that no sorry on 01:55:20.639 --> 01:55:23.095 councelor Thomann you are empowered. 01:55:23.119 --> 01:55:24.615 Yeah I just got a question. Obviously we 01:55:24.639 --> 01:55:26.296 do a lot of consultation and you might 01:55:26.320 --> 01:55:27.816 have to take that one notice but how 01:55:27.840 --> 01:55:30.456 much do we actually spend on 01:55:30.480 --> 01:55:33.016 consultation because I think it's would 01:55:33.040 --> 01:55:35.496 be quite extensive 01:55:35.520 --> 01:55:37.976 through you may 01:55:38.000 --> 01:55:41.000 um in terms of 01:55:41.280 --> 01:55:42.776 we will need to take that that question 01:55:42.800 --> 01:55:45.800 on notice there's in addition to a 01:55:46.480 --> 01:55:48.456 direct response to that I just like to 01:55:48.480 --> 01:55:50.215 say that a lot of the work is done in 01:55:50.239 --> 01:55:53.095 house we have um quite a large 01:55:53.119 --> 01:55:55.175 engagement team compared to some other 01:55:55.199 --> 01:55:57.496 councils. We take on a lot more work 01:55:57.520 --> 01:56:00.520 internally and therefore don't um 01:56:02.880 --> 01:56:05.575 yeah outsource a lot of the work. So it 01:56:05.599 --> 01:56:08.599 ends up being a little bit um more of 01:56:09.040 --> 01:56:10.695 a cost-saving 01:56:10.719 --> 01:56:13.655 than other councils 01:56:13.679 --> 01:56:16.296 through Mayor and we also with our 01:56:16.320 --> 01:56:18.695 projects. So projects are meant to 01:56:18.719 --> 01:56:20.856 accommodate um community engagement 01:56:20.880 --> 01:56:22.776 consultation as part of their budgets. 01:56:22.800 --> 01:56:25.336 We have a small kind of internal budget 01:56:25.360 --> 01:56:28.135 for core things that we work on every 01:56:28.159 --> 01:56:30.856 year like the council plan. Um but 01:56:30.880 --> 01:56:33.175 otherwise individual projects will have 01:56:33.199 --> 01:56:35.016 an allowance for community engagement 01:56:35.040 --> 01:56:37.336 which goes towards funding the internal 01:56:37.360 --> 01:56:39.336 team which can change from year to year 01:56:39.360 --> 01:56:41.736 based on the level of work that we have. 01:56:41.760 --> 01:56:43.336 And from time to time we do engage 01:56:43.360 --> 01:56:45.336 external experts 01:56:45.360 --> 01:56:46.536 um particularly when we're doing 01:56:46.560 --> 01:56:48.376 deliberative engagement or we're looking 01:56:48.400 --> 01:56:51.400 to um interact with targeted segments of 01:56:51.840 --> 01:56:53.095 the community where they may have more 01:56:53.119 --> 01:56:56.119 expertise and reach than us. Councelor 01:56:56.239 --> 01:56:57.655 Jay 01:56:57.679 --> 01:57:00.679 Monique a random question um as a 01:57:00.960 --> 01:57:03.496 resident I used to do the engagements 01:57:03.520 --> 01:57:05.655 all the time as a counselor I don't a 01:57:05.679 --> 01:57:08.215 council is allowed to do the community 01:57:08.239 --> 01:57:11.239 engagement or is it a conflict 01:57:11.840 --> 01:57:14.840 through Mayor that's a good question um 01:57:15.679 --> 01:57:18.296 you have the final decision making power 01:57:18.320 --> 01:57:21.320 so we request that you don't participate 01:57:21.440 --> 01:57:23.655 in the earlier earlier stages and listen 01:57:23.679 --> 01:57:25.175 to what the other community members 01:57:25.199 --> 01:57:28.199 members um have to say. In saying that 01:57:29.360 --> 01:57:31.256 though, there's no checks and balances. 01:57:31.280 --> 01:57:33.336 So if you Yeah, 01:57:33.360 --> 01:57:35.095 look, I I haven't been, but I think I 01:57:35.119 --> 01:57:36.456 read in the papers that community 01:57:36.480 --> 01:57:38.456 engagement did say it was for counselors 01:57:38.480 --> 01:57:41.480 as well as so I wasn't sure. 01:57:44.480 --> 01:57:47.480 Yeah. 01:57:48.639 --> 01:57:51.639 No, no, we're that's not the primary 01:57:52.080 --> 01:57:53.976 purpose of our engagement. Our primary 01:57:54.000 --> 01:57:55.816 purpose is to find out community 01:57:55.840 --> 01:57:57.575 sentiment to inform your decision 01:57:57.599 --> 01:58:00.599 making. 01:58:02.080 --> 01:58:04.296 Great clarification, councelor Jay. And 01:58:04.320 --> 01:58:05.896 I think that's actually a really 01:58:05.920 --> 01:58:07.575 important point to clarify in the 01:58:07.599 --> 01:58:09.976 community. So thank you. Any further 01:58:10.000 --> 01:58:13.000 questions of for officers? 01:58:15.280 --> 01:58:18.280 You may certainly 01:58:20.159 --> 01:58:21.976 Oh, we're fighting over moving this one. 01:58:22.000 --> 01:58:25.000 So all right so move councelor there's 01:58:25.520 --> 01:58:27.575 the mover is councelor Halliday the 01:58:27.599 --> 01:58:30.599 second oh 01:58:32.159 --> 01:58:33.736 all right have we sorted out who's 01:58:33.760 --> 01:58:36.760 moving this motion 01:58:38.239 --> 01:58:41.239 I moved council Buckingham 01:58:41.280 --> 01:58:44.280 seconded councelor Thomann 01:58:44.480 --> 01:58:47.480 would the mover like to speak 01:58:47.520 --> 01:58:50.520 yes I would um it's a great pleasure to 01:58:51.679 --> 01:58:54.296 move this particular motion and to see 01:58:54.320 --> 01:58:57.320 this community engagement um policy come 01:58:57.520 --> 01:58:59.336 to fruition. I know how much work has 01:58:59.360 --> 01:59:02.360 gone into it. Um 01:59:03.199 --> 01:59:06.199 getting this right is key to the success 01:59:07.040 --> 01:59:08.695 of the decisions we make here in the 01:59:08.719 --> 01:59:11.719 chamber and all of the um policies and 01:59:11.760 --> 01:59:13.896 programs that we run out across the City 01:59:13.920 --> 01:59:16.920 of Port Phillip. And I think it's 01:59:17.280 --> 01:59:18.776 important just to take a moment and 01:59:18.800 --> 01:59:21.095 reflect that our council plan has 01:59:21.119 --> 01:59:23.575 community empowerment and engagement as 01:59:23.599 --> 01:59:26.599 a pillar. It is foundational to what we 01:59:26.639 --> 01:59:29.639 do here. And this um I'm really pleased 01:59:30.400 --> 01:59:32.376 to be the mover of this motion because I 01:59:32.400 --> 01:59:35.400 believe that this policy sets us up for 01:59:35.520 --> 01:59:38.520 success particularly in engaging with 01:59:39.199 --> 01:59:42.199 those people um that might not always um 01:59:43.760 --> 01:59:46.215 be able to access our our processes and 01:59:46.239 --> 01:59:48.135 it really reaches further into the 01:59:48.159 --> 01:59:50.776 community to get that that meaningful 01:59:50.800 --> 01:59:52.296 engagement. 01:59:52.320 --> 01:59:55.320 I think as we 01:59:55.679 --> 01:59:58.679 move through our council plan, how we 01:59:58.960 --> 02:00:01.336 not only consult and get feedback but 02:00:01.360 --> 02:00:04.296 actually um get more into that end of 02:00:04.320 --> 02:00:06.776 the spectrum around empowerment and 02:00:06.800 --> 02:00:08.776 using the expertise and the cap 02:00:08.800 --> 02:00:11.800 capability of our community um will 02:00:11.920 --> 02:00:14.920 strengthen all of our work. that the 02:00:15.119 --> 02:00:17.496 tracks are laid and there is 02:00:17.520 --> 02:00:19.896 clarification about our roles as 02:00:19.920 --> 02:00:22.920 counselors and our roles as um officers 02:00:23.280 --> 02:00:25.336 in the policy. So, we've all got very 02:00:25.360 --> 02:00:27.655 clear guidance and our role in this 02:00:27.679 --> 02:00:30.056 incredibly important um part of the work 02:00:30.080 --> 02:00:31.336 that happens here at City of Port 02:00:31.360 --> 02:00:32.936 Phillip. 02:00:32.960 --> 02:00:34.695 Thank you, Councelor Buckingham. The 02:00:34.719 --> 02:00:37.719 second councilman, the floor is yours. 02:00:39.599 --> 02:00:41.575 Obvious we do we do a lot of 02:00:41.599 --> 02:00:43.736 consultation but I think this 02:00:43.760 --> 02:00:45.896 strategy 02:00:45.920 --> 02:00:48.920 can demonstrate that it's worthwhile you 02:00:49.119 --> 02:00:51.976 know I encourage people to take part to 02:00:52.000 --> 02:00:54.856 our consultations obviously somebody 02:00:54.880 --> 02:00:56.536 might like black and the other one we 02:00:56.560 --> 02:00:59.560 like white so we can't necessarily 02:00:59.679 --> 02:01:02.296 support you know everyone in their point 02:01:02.320 --> 02:01:05.175 of view but certainly as counselors 02:01:05.199 --> 02:01:08.199 we try to accommodate and listen to the 02:01:09.280 --> 02:01:10.856 sentiments that are given to us through 02:01:10.880 --> 02:01:12.215 community consultation. I think it's 02:01:12.239 --> 02:01:15.239 important that we consult and that we 02:01:15.840 --> 02:01:18.840 you know it guides our thinking and um 02:01:19.440 --> 02:01:22.440 the way we brand this City and um I know 02:01:22.719 --> 02:01:24.296 it takes time. I know some people say oh 02:01:24.320 --> 02:01:26.536 more consultation you know I don't 02:01:26.560 --> 02:01:28.776 think it's a platform or a mechanism to 02:01:28.800 --> 02:01:31.736 delay things or maybe it could but 02:01:31.760 --> 02:01:33.896 hopefully that's not the case and it's 02:01:33.920 --> 02:01:36.920 only for us to make better decisions and 02:01:38.080 --> 02:01:40.856 listening to our community who has put 02:01:40.880 --> 02:01:43.880 us here. So I encourage the 02:01:44.480 --> 02:01:47.175 consultation and maybe there are ways of 02:01:47.199 --> 02:01:49.736 consulting that that we haven't thought 02:01:49.760 --> 02:01:52.135 of in the recommendations and u you know 02:01:52.159 --> 02:01:53.816 we have a lot of very intelligent people 02:01:53.840 --> 02:01:56.536 out there who want to be heard tell us 02:01:56.560 --> 02:01:58.376 how we can hear you better and how you 02:01:58.400 --> 02:02:00.135 can talk to us better 02:02:00.159 --> 02:02:01.816 it could all be shades of gray councelor 02:02:01.840 --> 02:02:04.376 Timone or shades of salmon councelor 02:02:04.400 --> 02:02:07.256 Halliday I see you're keen to 02:02:07.280 --> 02:02:10.135 I was keen and jumped the jump the 02:02:10.159 --> 02:02:13.159 starting there. Um 02:02:13.360 --> 02:02:15.496 just I think one of the things that we 02:02:15.520 --> 02:02:18.520 as a council um agreed on when we 02:02:19.360 --> 02:02:21.896 were first elected and and reelected was 02:02:21.920 --> 02:02:24.920 that we wanted to um 02:02:25.360 --> 02:02:28.296 improve the depth of the community 02:02:28.320 --> 02:02:31.320 consultation that we were um that we 02:02:31.599 --> 02:02:34.599 were delivering. the I think that we saw 02:02:35.360 --> 02:02:38.135 in some of our older you know community 02:02:38.159 --> 02:02:40.296 survey results that there was a a gap 02:02:40.320 --> 02:02:42.135 between the community's expectations of 02:02:42.159 --> 02:02:44.776 councils and and the decision-m that we 02:02:44.800 --> 02:02:47.800 were that was coming out of council. So 02:02:48.400 --> 02:02:51.400 I am a very strong supporter here of 02:02:52.400 --> 02:02:55.256 deeper and more meaningful engagement 02:02:55.280 --> 02:02:58.280 across the community. And I think 02:02:59.280 --> 02:03:02.135 one of the benefits of the more um the 02:03:02.159 --> 02:03:05.095 the the more extensive end here I'm 02:03:05.119 --> 02:03:07.575 pointing at the AP spectrum here where 02:03:07.599 --> 02:03:09.655 you have you know informing people at 02:03:09.679 --> 02:03:12.215 one end and collaborating and empowering 02:03:12.239 --> 02:03:15.016 up at the other end. One of the deeper 02:03:15.040 --> 02:03:18.040 benefits here of um the the further end 02:03:18.239 --> 02:03:20.536 of deeper engagement is that you might 02:03:20.560 --> 02:03:23.560 get um two pill in a room and where you 02:03:23.840 --> 02:03:25.336 were informing them or consulting them 02:03:25.360 --> 02:03:28.215 of their options of black or white um at 02:03:28.239 --> 02:03:29.816 the other end of the spectrum you might 02:03:29.840 --> 02:03:32.056 put them in the room and they both find 02:03:32.080 --> 02:03:34.695 out that they like strawberry better um 02:03:34.719 --> 02:03:37.719 and they can reach a a better third 02:03:38.000 --> 02:03:41.000 option decision um which isn't a binary 02:03:41.119 --> 02:03:44.119 win lose option. Um so I will be seeking 02:03:44.560 --> 02:03:47.175 through the rest of this term to um you 02:03:47.199 --> 02:03:49.655 know empower our community more with 02:03:49.679 --> 02:03:52.679 deeper engagement options for them on 02:03:53.679 --> 02:03:55.416 um big decisions that are coming before 02:03:55.440 --> 02:03:57.655 this council um over the next few years. 02:03:57.679 --> 02:04:00.296 So again, strong supporter of this and 02:04:00.320 --> 02:04:02.056 um love the work and especially want to 02:04:02.080 --> 02:04:05.080 commend um the engagement officers who 02:04:05.360 --> 02:04:07.016 supported things like the balaclava 02:04:07.040 --> 02:04:09.496 community engagement which was um you 02:04:09.520 --> 02:04:11.416 know something that we hadn't seen 02:04:11.440 --> 02:04:14.056 before and really above and beyond what 02:04:14.080 --> 02:04:16.456 our expectations were. and that set a 02:04:16.480 --> 02:04:19.016 pretty high bar going in. So um we 02:04:19.040 --> 02:04:22.040 appreciate that. so again strong 02:04:22.239 --> 02:04:24.456 supporter of this new strategy 02:04:24.480 --> 02:04:26.215 here. 02:04:26.239 --> 02:04:27.896 Thank you, councelor Halliday. Any 02:04:27.920 --> 02:04:30.456 other speakers wish to speak to this 02:04:30.480 --> 02:04:31.976 motion? 02:04:32.000 --> 02:04:34.936 Councelor Jay. 02:04:34.960 --> 02:04:37.736 Um to echo what councelor Halliday 02:04:37.760 --> 02:04:40.376 said, for a very diverse group of 02:04:40.400 --> 02:04:42.056 counselors, community engagement is 02:04:42.080 --> 02:04:43.816 something that we all strongly feel 02:04:43.840 --> 02:04:46.695 about. We all have in common. Um I do 02:04:46.719 --> 02:04:48.296 want to thank the officers for listening 02:04:48.320 --> 02:04:50.215 to our crazy suggestions and turning up 02:04:50.239 --> 02:04:52.936 at places that they've never been and 02:04:52.960 --> 02:04:55.016 some successful and some possibly not. 02:04:55.040 --> 02:04:57.256 So, so thank you for being open and 02:04:57.280 --> 02:04:59.655 taking everything on board. we will 02:04:59.679 --> 02:05:02.376 continue um engaging with our community 02:05:02.400 --> 02:05:04.936 in other ways that we're we're all 02:05:04.960 --> 02:05:06.615 discussing in the new year, one year 02:05:06.639 --> 02:05:09.256 down and a few to go. We are all always 02:05:09.280 --> 02:05:12.280 open to community feedback. Um 02:05:12.800 --> 02:05:15.256 preferably in a more formal style where 02:05:15.280 --> 02:05:17.896 we can really nut down, but yeah, we 02:05:17.920 --> 02:05:20.920 listen to social media as well. So I 02:05:20.960 --> 02:05:22.936 will be supporting this and look forward 02:05:22.960 --> 02:05:25.655 to more information, more transparency 02:05:25.679 --> 02:05:27.496 which leads to better governance and 02:05:27.520 --> 02:05:29.896 communication with our residents. Thank 02:05:29.920 --> 02:05:30.376 you. 02:05:30.400 --> 02:05:33.400 Thank you councelor J. Councelor Hardy. 02:05:33.679 --> 02:05:35.655 The most important paragraph to me in 02:05:35.679 --> 02:05:38.679 this lengthy report, which I'm glad has 02:05:39.280 --> 02:05:40.776 taken a lot of time and a lot of 02:05:40.800 --> 02:05:43.800 thought, is 4.32, where it says reflects 02:05:44.320 --> 02:05:45.896 the council's commitment to fostering 02:05:45.920 --> 02:05:47.976 meaningful participation, building 02:05:48.000 --> 02:05:49.976 trust, and ensuring that the community 02:05:50.000 --> 02:05:51.736 voices are considered in shaping the 02:05:51.760 --> 02:05:53.816 future of the municipality. And the 02:05:53.840 --> 02:05:55.896 monetary cost of that is totally 02:05:55.920 --> 02:05:58.376 irrelevant in my mind. 02:05:58.400 --> 02:06:00.776 Thank 02:06:00.800 --> 02:06:02.296 we'll remember that statement from you 02:06:02.320 --> 02:06:04.456 councelor Hardy. 02:06:04.480 --> 02:06:07.480 Any other councilors 02:06:07.920 --> 02:06:10.056 any other counselors wish to speak to 02:06:10.080 --> 02:06:13.080 this item? 02:06:14.239 --> 02:06:17.239 I might just add a few comments and 02:06:17.440 --> 02:06:20.296 you know this as many of us have echoed 02:06:20.320 --> 02:06:23.320 this was a priority for all of us around 02:06:23.760 --> 02:06:26.536 the chamber as newly elected and 02:06:26.560 --> 02:06:28.856 returning counselors and the fact that 02:06:28.880 --> 02:06:31.175 we had several counselors you know 02:06:31.199 --> 02:06:33.496 almost combating each other for who 02:06:33.520 --> 02:06:35.816 moves the motion just shows you know how 02:06:35.840 --> 02:06:38.135 far that journey has come and the level 02:06:38.159 --> 02:06:39.896 of confidence that we have in this 02:06:39.920 --> 02:06:42.215 policy and our engagement approach going 02:06:42.239 --> 02:06:44.376 forward. So, 02:06:44.400 --> 02:06:46.695 congratulations to the team, to us as 02:06:46.719 --> 02:06:49.719 counselors in shaping that policy and 02:06:49.920 --> 02:06:51.655 that framework going forward. You know, 02:06:51.679 --> 02:06:54.679 this is real groundbreaking stuff. We've 02:06:55.280 --> 02:06:57.336 seen it with the budget process that 02:06:57.360 --> 02:06:59.256 we've now opened in bringing forward 02:06:59.280 --> 02:07:01.575 those submissions. We're seeing we saw 02:07:01.599 --> 02:07:04.376 it with Bellaclava. There's other areas 02:07:04.400 --> 02:07:05.816 where we're starting to see this as 02:07:05.840 --> 02:07:08.776 well. You know this is fundamental work 02:07:08.800 --> 02:07:10.856 in lead that leads to good governance 02:07:10.880 --> 02:07:12.695 that leads to better decision-m and 02:07:12.719 --> 02:07:14.856 leads to ensuring that our community is 02:07:14.880 --> 02:07:16.856 able to provide input where it's 02:07:16.880 --> 02:07:19.575 required at the right level as well. So 02:07:19.599 --> 02:07:21.655 congratulations and you know as chair I 02:07:21.679 --> 02:07:23.175 very rarely speak to these items. This 02:07:23.199 --> 02:07:25.336 is how significant that item is. You 02:07:25.360 --> 02:07:27.736 know it's a long journey but it's been a 02:07:27.760 --> 02:07:29.256 journey that's really led us to a 02:07:29.280 --> 02:07:31.736 fantastic place going forward. So 02:07:31.760 --> 02:07:33.655 commend the motion and the work that's 02:07:33.679 --> 02:07:35.336 gone into it and the council of dialogue 02:07:35.360 --> 02:07:37.256 and input in getting us to this place as 02:07:37.280 --> 02:07:40.135 well and moving beyond the binary AB 02:07:40.159 --> 02:07:43.095 options into you know where are the 02:07:43.119 --> 02:07:44.456 complexities that we need to work 02:07:44.480 --> 02:07:47.480 through once again my congratulations 02:07:48.079 --> 02:07:51.079 the mover wish to close 02:07:53.199 --> 02:07:56.199 just this week the team's been out 02:07:56.960 --> 02:07:59.960 in local schools consulting around the 02:08:00.320 --> 02:08:02.456 Ripen Lee master plan and particularly 02:08:02.480 --> 02:08:04.215 around the playground in Bernard Gay and 02:08:04.239 --> 02:08:07.239 I overheard a conversation of nine of 02:08:07.360 --> 02:08:10.360 half a dozen nine yearear-old girls 02:08:10.719 --> 02:08:13.655 talking about the process and it's a 02:08:13.679 --> 02:08:15.736 very positive process for those children 02:08:15.760 --> 02:08:17.496 and they 02:08:17.520 --> 02:08:20.520 um when as they see that playground get 02:08:22.079 --> 02:08:24.055 renovated and developed they will know 02:08:24.079 --> 02:08:27.016 that they've had an input into their 02:08:27.040 --> 02:08:30.040 local park and that is empowering and it 02:08:30.800 --> 02:08:32.135 is meaningful and it means we're going 02:08:32.159 --> 02:08:33.655 to get a better playground because we've 02:08:33.679 --> 02:08:35.575 got their ideas. So, I just want to 02:08:35.599 --> 02:08:38.599 close by saying this is the this is the 02:08:39.199 --> 02:08:41.816 kind of activity that this policy will 02:08:41.840 --> 02:08:44.536 support and lead to and thank the team 02:08:44.560 --> 02:08:47.560 for their work. 02:08:47.760 --> 02:08:49.336 Fantastic close. Thank you, Councelor 02:08:49.360 --> 02:08:52.055 Buckingham. A motion has been put. All 02:08:52.079 --> 02:08:54.936 those in favor, 02:08:54.960 --> 02:08:56.936 that motion is carried unanimously. Well 02:08:56.960 --> 02:08:59.175 done. Once again, , congratulations 02:08:59.199 --> 02:09:02.199 for that work. 02:09:02.960 --> 02:09:05.960 Brings us now to item 12.2, the status 02:09:06.560 --> 02:09:08.936 of council decisions and questions taken 02:09:08.960 --> 02:09:11.175 on notice recorded by council from the 02:09:11.199 --> 02:09:13.575 1st of July to the 30th of September, 02:09:13.599 --> 02:09:15.336 2025. 02:09:15.360 --> 02:09:17.095 Do we have any questions for officers 02:09:17.119 --> 02:09:20.119 for this item? 02:09:21.440 --> 02:09:23.336 I knew there'd have to be one. Councelor 02:09:23.360 --> 02:09:23.816 Halliday, 02:09:23.840 --> 02:09:25.655 not a question. just copy comment that 02:09:25.679 --> 02:09:27.336 there's a couple of duplicated pages in 02:09:27.360 --> 02:09:29.175 here over the top of each other making 02:09:29.199 --> 02:09:29.816 I'm sure 02:09:29.840 --> 02:09:31.416 the question is why are there couple of 02:09:31.440 --> 02:09:33.416 duplicated pages? Yep. 02:09:33.440 --> 02:09:36.440 Yeah. 02:09:36.719 --> 02:09:37.816 I can answer that. 02:09:37.840 --> 02:09:39.896 that will be answered by James 02:09:39.920 --> 02:09:40.695 Cullen. 02:09:40.719 --> 02:09:43.256 through you may I think it's a a 02:09:43.280 --> 02:09:44.695 technical error by virtue of the 02:09:44.719 --> 02:09:46.376 uploading. It looks to be fine in the 02:09:46.400 --> 02:09:49.095 HTML but in the PDF version there's um 02:09:49.119 --> 02:09:50.615 an error. We will correct that in the 02:09:50.639 --> 02:09:52.776 next day or two when we release the 02:09:52.800 --> 02:09:55.175 minutes. 02:09:55.199 --> 02:09:56.615 We're on a roll with questions tonight. 02:09:56.639 --> 02:09:59.095 Any other questions for officers to this 02:09:59.119 --> 02:10:00.856 item? 02:10:00.880 --> 02:10:03.880 12.2 going once. , is that question? 02:10:04.079 --> 02:10:06.856 You're moving. Councelor Thomann is 02:10:06.880 --> 02:10:08.856 moving the recommendation before us. Is 02:10:08.880 --> 02:10:11.416 that correct? Yep. Seconded. Councelor 02:10:11.440 --> 02:10:12.776 Halliday. Does the mover wish to 02:10:12.800 --> 02:10:15.800 speak? Does the second wish to speak? 02:10:16.320 --> 02:10:19.016 It's very quiet of us. Anyone else wish 02:10:19.040 --> 02:10:21.896 to speak to this motion? Going once, 02:10:21.920 --> 02:10:23.816 going twice. Does the mover wish to 02:10:23.840 --> 02:10:25.336 close? 02:10:25.360 --> 02:10:27.575 In which case, the motion will be put. 02:10:27.599 --> 02:10:30.536 All those in favor, that motion is 02:10:30.560 --> 02:10:33.560 carried unanimously. 02:10:34.800 --> 02:10:37.800 Item 12.3, the council and planning 02:10:38.239 --> 02:10:41.175 committee timetable for 2026. Any 02:10:41.199 --> 02:10:44.199 questions for officers to this item this 02:10:44.320 --> 02:10:47.095 evening? 02:10:47.119 --> 02:10:50.119 We've suddenly gone quiet. 02:10:55.760 --> 02:10:57.175 Do you wish to move council to 02:10:57.199 --> 02:10:58.615 I'm happy you know I'm happy to ask a 02:10:58.639 --> 02:11:01.639 question that said obviously they are um 02:11:02.400 --> 02:11:05.016 religious significant religious moments 02:11:05.040 --> 02:11:08.040 through the year and um 02:11:09.119 --> 02:11:11.016 so it's a Dorothy 02:11:11.040 --> 02:11:14.040 whatever question but have we checked 02:11:14.400 --> 02:11:16.456 to make sure that council meetings 02:11:16.480 --> 02:11:19.480 aren't falling on days of significant 02:11:21.440 --> 02:11:24.440 relig just celebrations and even certain 02:11:25.040 --> 02:11:27.256 times I suppose of when the meeting 02:11:27.280 --> 02:11:28.615 should take place. 02:11:28.639 --> 02:11:30.135 Thank you. Good question. James 02:11:30.159 --> 02:11:32.055 Governor, manager of governance and 02:11:32.079 --> 02:11:33.816 communicate, sorry, communications and 02:11:33.840 --> 02:11:34.936 governance. 02:11:34.960 --> 02:11:37.960 thank you Mayor and um and thank you 02:11:38.239 --> 02:11:41.239 for the question um councelor Timman. Um 02:11:41.360 --> 02:11:43.736 yes we do do that due diligence. So in 02:11:43.760 --> 02:11:45.336 terms of the application and preparation 02:11:45.360 --> 02:11:48.215 of these dates we consider a range of 02:11:48.239 --> 02:11:50.615 things. con we consider public 02:11:50.639 --> 02:11:53.336 holidays we consider school holidays 02:11:53.360 --> 02:11:56.296 and we consider um significant religious 02:11:56.320 --> 02:11:59.320 days um and and events. Um for example 02:12:00.639 --> 02:12:03.639 um this um agenda considers Passover 02:12:05.840 --> 02:12:08.456 in April and does not schedule a meeting 02:12:08.480 --> 02:12:10.615 during Passover. So we've looked at a 02:12:10.639 --> 02:12:13.639 range of denominations in this space. 02:12:14.320 --> 02:12:15.655 Thank you. you councelor time for 02:12:15.679 --> 02:12:17.416 question. Councelor Jay. 02:12:17.440 --> 02:12:19.896 Um I do I noticed that there's a 02:12:19.920 --> 02:12:22.376 location on all of these meetings. Um is 02:12:22.400 --> 02:12:25.336 there any intent to potentially have any 02:12:25.360 --> 02:12:28.135 meetings at Port Melbourne Town Hall 02:12:28.159 --> 02:12:31.095 which I have attended in the past? 02:12:31.119 --> 02:12:32.376 Over to you James. 02:12:32.400 --> 02:12:34.536 thank you for the question councelor 02:12:34.560 --> 02:12:36.776 Jay and through you may yes at this 02:12:36.800 --> 02:12:38.776 point in time we're awaiting given that 02:12:38.800 --> 02:12:41.175 we need to publish the location of 02:12:41.199 --> 02:12:43.575 dates. we've um published and killed a 02:12:43.599 --> 02:12:46.599 town hall. there will be once Port 02:12:46.639 --> 02:12:48.055 Melbourne Town Hall is open and 02:12:48.079 --> 02:12:50.215 available a reconsideration of when we 02:12:50.239 --> 02:12:52.376 can host council meetings there and that 02:12:52.400 --> 02:12:53.816 is our intention. 02:12:53.840 --> 02:12:56.135 Um and South Melbourne Town Hall. 02:12:56.159 --> 02:12:58.856 and South and South Melbourne I if if 02:12:58.880 --> 02:13:01.880 that can meet the 2026 calendar um that 02:13:03.199 --> 02:13:04.296 that will Julie be 02:13:04.320 --> 02:13:05.736 I actually think the chamber's still 02:13:05.760 --> 02:13:08.536 intact. We could probably organize some 02:13:08.560 --> 02:13:11.560 high viz vests and do it now. whatever 02:13:13.199 --> 02:13:14.536 the Mayor would like to walk to a 02:13:14.560 --> 02:13:17.496 council meeting at some stage. any 02:13:17.520 --> 02:13:20.520 other questions to officers? 02:13:23.520 --> 02:13:25.496 Move. we have a mover and councelor 02:13:25.520 --> 02:13:28.215 Thomann of the officer recommendation. 02:13:28.239 --> 02:13:31.239 Do we have a seconder to this motion? 02:13:36.639 --> 02:13:38.936 Councelor Crawford would like to second. 02:13:38.960 --> 02:13:40.776 Thank you. Councelor Tam, would you like 02:13:40.800 --> 02:13:42.135 to speak to the motion that you've put 02:13:42.159 --> 02:13:44.615 before us? 02:13:44.639 --> 02:13:47.639 My questions my questions sort of 02:13:49.599 --> 02:13:51.416 was enough to support this 02:13:51.440 --> 02:13:52.376 recommendation. 02:13:52.400 --> 02:13:54.376 Thank you. Councelor Crawford, would you 02:13:54.400 --> 02:13:56.296 like to speak as second to the motion 02:13:56.320 --> 02:13:59.320 before us? 02:14:00.079 --> 02:14:01.976 Any other council, any opposition to 02:14:02.000 --> 02:14:04.215 this motion? We will be meeting next 02:14:04.239 --> 02:14:07.239 year. , any other speakers to the 02:14:08.320 --> 02:14:11.320 motion? 02:14:12.159 --> 02:14:13.655 Would the mover like to close this 02:14:13.679 --> 02:14:16.215 motion? Would the mover like to put this 02:14:16.239 --> 02:14:17.976 motion? 02:14:18.000 --> 02:14:19.336 You're putting the motion. We're putting 02:14:19.360 --> 02:14:22.296 the motion. All those in favor. That 02:14:22.320 --> 02:14:24.296 motion is carried unanimously. We now 02:14:24.320 --> 02:14:26.615 have our agenda meeting schedule for 02:14:26.639 --> 02:14:29.639 next year. So, we will be back. 02:14:30.800 --> 02:14:33.496 That concludes officer report. So 02:14:33.520 --> 02:14:36.296 we do have item 14 a notice of motion. 02:14:36.320 --> 02:14:37.896 We have one notice of motion tonight. 02:14:37.920 --> 02:14:40.776 That is item 14.1 02:14:40.800 --> 02:14:42.936 which is a motion raised by councelor 02:14:42.960 --> 02:14:45.960 Thomann in relation to jet skis in soda 02:14:46.079 --> 02:14:48.695 harour. I assume councelor Thomann you 02:14:48.719 --> 02:14:50.055 would like to move your notice of 02:14:50.079 --> 02:14:51.655 motion. 02:14:51.679 --> 02:14:53.256 Yes I would like to. 02:14:53.280 --> 02:14:55.896 You are noted as a mover. Is there a 02:14:55.920 --> 02:14:58.920 second to your motion that oh 02:14:59.280 --> 02:15:01.416 competition? I'm going to That's 02:15:01.440 --> 02:15:03.416 councelor Halliday makes up for 02:15:03.440 --> 02:15:05.416 missing out last time. Councelor 02:15:05.440 --> 02:15:07.416 Halliday is the second to the motion. 02:15:07.440 --> 02:15:09.736 Councelor Thomann as a mover. Would you 02:15:09.760 --> 02:15:12.376 like to open the debate? 02:15:12.400 --> 02:15:15.400 Um I think notice of motions is a 02:15:16.800 --> 02:15:19.800 tool to as a response to what 02:15:21.040 --> 02:15:24.040 we've heard for a community and for 02:15:24.239 --> 02:15:26.296 serious concerns. 02:15:26.320 --> 02:15:28.296 Um 02:15:28.320 --> 02:15:30.376 and 02:15:30.400 --> 02:15:32.856 since you know the the warm weather 02:15:32.880 --> 02:15:35.016 has arrived and people are enjoying our 02:15:35.040 --> 02:15:38.040 beaches um there has been more and more 02:15:38.079 --> 02:15:41.079 jet skis in our harbor threatening 02:15:42.480 --> 02:15:45.480 our swimmers and you know the 02:15:46.159 --> 02:15:47.655 penguins 02:15:47.679 --> 02:15:50.679 boat fisherman etc. So, especially 02:15:52.320 --> 02:15:55.256 around the new pier 02:15:55.280 --> 02:15:57.655 and I've noticed looking at jet skis, 02:15:57.679 --> 02:16:00.456 they sort of enjoy going underneath the 02:16:00.480 --> 02:16:02.856 pier and doing the zigzag and da da da. 02:16:02.880 --> 02:16:05.880 So I think it's the P it's it's a new 02:16:06.719 --> 02:16:08.856 sort of new attraction for everyone 02:16:08.880 --> 02:16:11.880 including for the jet skis and um 02:16:13.199 --> 02:16:15.736 unfortunately a lot of you know I'm not 02:16:15.760 --> 02:16:17.496 against jet skis and I think council is 02:16:17.520 --> 02:16:19.896 not at jet skis but we want to make sure 02:16:19.920 --> 02:16:22.920 that our bay is safe and that everything 02:16:23.840 --> 02:16:26.296 is done to protect 02:16:26.320 --> 02:16:29.320 um the mainly the swimmers um around the 02:16:29.760 --> 02:16:32.760 pier and ch needs exclus using Jones for 02:16:34.719 --> 02:16:37.719 PWC's have to be has to change and as 02:16:38.479 --> 02:16:41.479 parks Victoria is currently conducting 02:16:41.920 --> 02:16:44.920 um consultation 02:16:44.960 --> 02:16:46.776 I think it's important that we 02:16:46.800 --> 02:16:49.800 demonstrate that council is for safety 02:16:50.080 --> 02:16:53.080 on the bay again we we're not against 02:16:53.679 --> 02:16:55.896 u you know we're not against jet skis 02:16:55.920 --> 02:16:58.920 and Richard who spoke about it and 02:16:58.960 --> 02:17:01.736 Simon are not against jet skis but they 02:17:01.760 --> 02:17:04.295 want a save Bay and um I think it's 02:17:04.319 --> 02:17:06.695 important that we do whatever we can 02:17:06.719 --> 02:17:08.776 obviously there has been a lot of 02:17:08.800 --> 02:17:11.176 interest on social media there's a 02:17:11.200 --> 02:17:12.856 story in the paper today you know I was 02:17:12.880 --> 02:17:15.880 on 3W this afternoon there is a concern 02:17:16.639 --> 02:17:19.639 from a lot of people that we can do more 02:17:20.639 --> 02:17:23.096 and that police the water police can do 02:17:23.120 --> 02:17:25.176 more you know I know there were 02:17:25.200 --> 02:17:28.200 incidents today where the jet skis 02:17:29.280 --> 02:17:32.056 were quite aggressive towards people who 02:17:32.080 --> 02:17:34.216 told them they shouldn't be there and 02:17:34.240 --> 02:17:37.240 the words were exchanged. So I think the 02:17:37.439 --> 02:17:39.575 less issues we have in our bay and the 02:17:39.599 --> 02:17:41.896 more we do to keep our bay safe we need 02:17:41.920 --> 02:17:43.655 to do. 02:17:43.679 --> 02:17:45.495 Thank you councel. 02:17:45.519 --> 02:17:47.976 Obviously I'm sure that my fellow 02:17:48.000 --> 02:17:50.375 counselors are very supportive of this 02:17:50.399 --> 02:17:51.736 motion 02:17:51.760 --> 02:17:53.335 and thank you for putting that notice to 02:17:53.359 --> 02:17:55.096 motion before us. So thank you councelor 02:17:55.120 --> 02:17:56.615 mind and opening that debate. Councelor 02:17:56.639 --> 02:17:57.976 Halliday as a seconder. Would you 02:17:58.000 --> 02:17:58.856 like to speak? 02:17:58.880 --> 02:18:00.695 Thank you Mayor. Um yeah, I'd first like 02:18:00.719 --> 02:18:03.016 to commend councelor Thomann on 02:18:03.040 --> 02:18:04.776 bringing this notice of motion. It's one 02:18:04.800 --> 02:18:06.776 that obviously many in the community 02:18:06.800 --> 02:18:08.615 are concerned about and especially the 02:18:08.639 --> 02:18:10.295 timeliness of this in the approaching 02:18:10.319 --> 02:18:13.319 summer um and alongside the community 02:18:13.519 --> 02:18:16.519 engagement um from Parks Victoria about 02:18:17.599 --> 02:18:20.599 the exclusion zones around um around 02:18:21.040 --> 02:18:23.575 St Kilda. I 02:18:23.599 --> 02:18:26.599 lamented earlier our lack of power to 02:18:28.559 --> 02:18:31.559 make decisions on many of the topics 02:18:31.760 --> 02:18:34.136 that come across um our desks or our 02:18:34.160 --> 02:18:36.375 community rises. And this is another one 02:18:36.399 --> 02:18:38.776 of those. We have we are not the um 02:18:38.800 --> 02:18:41.335 the enforcement agency. We are not the 02:18:41.359 --> 02:18:44.359 legislative agency here. We are having 02:18:44.639 --> 02:18:47.639 to um take up this notice of motion 02:18:47.920 --> 02:18:50.455 because we need to advocate to another 02:18:50.479 --> 02:18:52.216 level of government or several levels of 02:18:52.240 --> 02:18:55.240 government to actually um ensure that um 02:18:56.080 --> 02:18:59.080 people enjoying our beaches, our peers 02:19:00.160 --> 02:19:02.776 um are safe in doing that and free from 02:19:02.800 --> 02:19:05.335 the the nuisances 02:19:05.359 --> 02:19:08.359 um that unfortunately some people um 02:19:08.800 --> 02:19:11.800 choose to inflict on them. So, I'm 02:19:12.160 --> 02:19:15.160 very happy to support this this 02:19:16.080 --> 02:19:19.080 advocacy. Um unlike the the newspaper 02:19:19.359 --> 02:19:20.695 article here that suggests that we have 02:19:20.719 --> 02:19:22.776 the power to change the atrial exclusion 02:19:22.800 --> 02:19:25.575 zones, unfortunately. Um I'm happy to 02:19:25.599 --> 02:19:28.599 support this advocacy to get a change 02:19:30.000 --> 02:19:32.856 to the exclusion zone that allows people 02:19:32.880 --> 02:19:35.335 the um the full enjoyment of the pier 02:19:35.359 --> 02:19:38.359 without the without having to put up 02:19:38.559 --> 02:19:40.856 with jet skis there all the time. So 02:19:40.880 --> 02:19:43.880 hopefully this um has some impact on the 02:19:44.000 --> 02:19:46.136 actual decision makers and the actual 02:19:46.160 --> 02:19:49.160 enforcement of the rules that we have um 02:19:49.200 --> 02:19:52.200 in this particular circumstance. 02:19:52.319 --> 02:19:55.319 Is there any opposition to this motion? 02:19:56.479 --> 02:19:58.375 In which case do any other counselors 02:19:58.399 --> 02:20:00.295 wish to speak to the motion? Councelor 02:20:00.319 --> 02:20:02.056 Hardy, 02:20:02.080 --> 02:20:04.216 I just have a query. I'm not very good 02:20:04.240 --> 02:20:07.240 with measurements. Um, does the 200 m 02:20:08.399 --> 02:20:10.856 exclusion zone does that take it past 02:20:10.880 --> 02:20:12.455 the silder pier? Because I know it's 02:20:12.479 --> 02:20:13.415 quite long. 02:20:13.439 --> 02:20:15.256 That's a clarifying question to the 02:20:15.280 --> 02:20:18.280 motion. Yep. 02:20:18.880 --> 02:20:21.736 The 200 m are from the end of the pier. 02:20:21.760 --> 02:20:24.760 So, so basically there 02:20:24.960 --> 02:20:27.256 so there I don't think there'll be many 02:20:27.280 --> 02:20:29.656 there would there would not be so first 02:20:29.680 --> 02:20:32.375 of all there wouldn't be anyone on the 02:20:32.399 --> 02:20:35.176 swimming you know on the side of the 02:20:35.200 --> 02:20:37.576 pier that is towards the harbor so the 02:20:37.600 --> 02:20:38.696 you know the whole harbor would be 02:20:38.720 --> 02:20:40.696 excluded so basically people would be 02:20:40.720 --> 02:20:43.720 away from the harbor and h so it's there 02:20:44.080 --> 02:20:45.335 wouldn't be any people there 02:20:45.359 --> 02:20:48.359 thank you for clarifying any further 02:20:48.479 --> 02:20:51.176 speakers to this motion 02:20:51.200 --> 02:20:52.776 council Crawford. 02:20:52.800 --> 02:20:54.536 Um I just I'm really glad you brought 02:20:54.560 --> 02:20:56.536 this council to man because I know down 02:20:56.560 --> 02:20:58.295 in Lwood we have our own set of problems 02:20:58.319 --> 02:20:59.896 not the pier and obviously that has its 02:20:59.920 --> 02:21:02.136 particular circumstance with um very 02:21:02.160 --> 02:21:04.136 aggressive and dangerous driving but it 02:21:04.160 --> 02:21:05.816 happens all along our foreshore. So I'm 02:21:05.840 --> 02:21:07.256 very glad we've included the broader 02:21:07.280 --> 02:21:09.656 City. Um yeah I know we get lots of 02:21:09.680 --> 02:21:11.335 complaints every summer and we want our 02:21:11.359 --> 02:21:13.415 community to be safe as well as enjoy 02:21:13.439 --> 02:21:15.736 themselves further out to see on their 02:21:15.760 --> 02:21:18.760 lovely little jet skis or scadoo or 02:21:18.800 --> 02:21:20.936 whatever they're called. Um yeah. So, 02:21:20.960 --> 02:21:23.415 thank you, 02:21:23.439 --> 02:21:25.016 Councelor Hardy. 02:21:25.040 --> 02:21:26.216 Sorry, I'm gonna continue with this 02:21:26.240 --> 02:21:27.496 because I'm a little bit confused and 02:21:27.520 --> 02:21:29.576 hopefully Mr. T might be able to help 02:21:29.600 --> 02:21:32.536 us out. It says the exclusion of 02:21:32.560 --> 02:21:35.096 personal watercrafts or jet skis within 02:21:35.120 --> 02:21:37.576 200 meters adjoining City of Port 02:21:37.600 --> 02:21:40.600 Phillip beaches to improve safety 02:21:40.800 --> 02:21:43.335 including St Kilda Pier and harbor. So, 02:21:43.359 --> 02:21:45.736 my take on that is that it's within two 02:21:45.760 --> 02:21:48.760 that it's 200 meters from the beach. 02:21:50.240 --> 02:21:51.656 the existing law. 02:21:51.680 --> 02:21:54.295 We're in the debate so we can clarify 02:21:54.319 --> 02:21:56.856 the context of the debate. Is that a 02:21:56.880 --> 02:21:58.776 clarification of the motion before you 02:21:58.800 --> 02:22:01.736 council? I think it is. 02:22:01.760 --> 02:22:03.736 All right. 02:22:03.760 --> 02:22:05.656 Can we get clarification from officers 02:22:05.680 --> 02:22:08.680 around that or take that on notice? 02:22:09.920 --> 02:22:12.536 Yeah, apologies. Um, it it is unclear. 02:22:12.560 --> 02:22:14.936 We will need to take that on notice. 02:22:14.960 --> 02:22:17.960 Okay. By 02:22:18.160 --> 02:22:20.216 by way of clarification, can I pose it 02:22:20.240 --> 02:22:23.240 as a question? Yes, you can. If the 02:22:23.439 --> 02:22:26.295 existing policy was a 200 meter 02:22:26.319 --> 02:22:29.319 exclusion zone from the shore, 02:22:29.520 --> 02:22:32.520 then would this notice of motion expand 02:22:32.800 --> 02:22:35.800 that definition to also include the pier 02:22:36.160 --> 02:22:39.160 and the harbor as parts of the 200 as as 02:22:42.800 --> 02:22:45.800 an extension of that of the area that 02:22:47.280 --> 02:22:50.280 from which the 200 m exclusion zone 02:22:51.280 --> 02:22:54.280 extends. 02:22:54.640 --> 02:22:56.616 thank you question through you men 02:22:56.640 --> 02:22:57.816 and again 02:22:57.840 --> 02:23:00.696 it's not entirely clear my um initial 02:23:00.720 --> 02:23:03.256 response looking at it is that that it 02:23:03.280 --> 02:23:06.280 will not um and partly because those 02:23:07.040 --> 02:23:09.656 areas do not 02:23:09.680 --> 02:23:12.680 constitute councilman managed assets. 02:23:14.080 --> 02:23:15.816 if they don't constitute council manage 02:23:15.840 --> 02:23:18.840 assets if they are parks fix or or other 02:23:19.520 --> 02:23:22.520 state government assets 02:23:22.960 --> 02:23:24.616 but it might be something we need to 02:23:24.640 --> 02:23:27.016 review 02:23:27.040 --> 02:23:29.096 Chris Carol 02:23:29.120 --> 02:23:31.176 asking for a letter 02:23:31.200 --> 02:23:34.200 yes 02:23:36.479 --> 02:23:39.176 I I think the question before us is you 02:23:39.200 --> 02:23:42.056 know there's while it's yeah makes sense 02:23:42.080 --> 02:23:43.736 to clarify this it won't necessarily 02:23:43.760 --> 02:23:45.335 change the substance of what we're 02:23:45.359 --> 02:23:47.736 requesting. Right? So, um, which is 02:23:47.760 --> 02:23:50.375 really looking at the advocacy piece 02:23:50.399 --> 02:23:52.696 here. That's my interpretation of the 02:23:52.720 --> 02:23:55.720 motion before us. 02:23:56.240 --> 02:23:58.536 Can I maybe suggest a small change in 02:23:58.560 --> 02:24:00.856 the motion where we said adjourn City of 02:24:00.880 --> 02:24:03.880 Port means improving , Sinila Pier and 02:24:04.960 --> 02:24:07.960 harbor which so which means um, it's 200 02:24:09.359 --> 02:24:11.096 m from the Sila Pier and from the 02:24:11.120 --> 02:24:13.976 harbor. We removed just the word 02:24:14.000 --> 02:24:16.776 including. 02:24:16.800 --> 02:24:19.016 So as a mover, you're wishing to alter 02:24:19.040 --> 02:24:20.936 that to remove the word including. Is 02:24:20.960 --> 02:24:21.656 that correct? 02:24:21.680 --> 02:24:21.976 Yeah. 02:24:22.000 --> 02:24:22.776 Correct. 02:24:22.800 --> 02:24:23.976 Great. 02:24:24.000 --> 02:24:26.056 And I think that in that case it's 200 m 02:24:26.080 --> 02:24:29.080 from the harbor and silia. 02:24:35.439 --> 02:24:37.256 May I suggest? 02:24:37.280 --> 02:24:39.415 Yes. While we're playing with wording, 02:24:39.439 --> 02:24:41.415 200 meters adjoining 02:24:41.439 --> 02:24:44.439 City of Port Phillip Beaches comma 02:24:46.240 --> 02:24:47.256 and harbor. 02:24:47.280 --> 02:24:48.455 Yes. And to improve 02:24:48.479 --> 02:24:49.496 to improve safety. 02:24:49.520 --> 02:24:50.136 Yes. So 02:24:50.160 --> 02:24:52.136 as a mover, do you consent to that 02:24:52.160 --> 02:24:53.656 change? Councelor Timman. 02:24:53.680 --> 02:24:55.415 English not being my first language. I'm 02:24:55.439 --> 02:24:57.816 happy to go with council holiday 02:24:57.840 --> 02:24:58.455 suggestion. 02:24:58.479 --> 02:24:59.496 Second language. 02:24:59.520 --> 02:25:01.976 Does does that clarify our intent? 02:25:02.000 --> 02:25:04.136 Yes, I think so. Yeah. for the officers 02:25:04.160 --> 02:25:07.160 behind 02:25:07.200 --> 02:25:09.016 we are multi-talented counselors, 02:25:09.040 --> 02:25:11.016 grammar checkers, bell checkers and 02:25:11.040 --> 02:25:13.256 motion checkers. 02:25:13.280 --> 02:25:15.656 Councilors many talents may say it's 02:25:15.680 --> 02:25:17.976 clarified and obviously we don't want to 02:25:18.000 --> 02:25:18.776 delay it. 02:25:18.800 --> 02:25:19.096 No, 02:25:19.120 --> 02:25:20.936 this is important. It has to, you know, 02:25:20.960 --> 02:25:23.960 summer is started two days ago and I 02:25:24.800 --> 02:25:26.375 think it's important that we go on with 02:25:26.399 --> 02:25:28.375 the job of advocating. 02:25:28.399 --> 02:25:30.536 So the movers consented to that 02:25:30.560 --> 02:25:32.696 alteration. Is there any other speakers 02:25:32.720 --> 02:25:35.720 to the motion? 02:25:36.160 --> 02:25:39.160 Yep. Second spoke. Yep. Councelor J, do 02:25:39.280 --> 02:25:42.280 you wish to speak to the motion? 02:25:42.319 --> 02:25:45.319 Um, it'll be no surprise to anyone to 02:25:45.520 --> 02:25:48.520 learn that I have a jet ski license. 02:25:48.720 --> 02:25:51.656 Um, 02:25:51.680 --> 02:25:52.536 the wind surfer, 02:25:52.560 --> 02:25:55.560 the personal watercraft. I think it's um 02:25:56.399 --> 02:25:58.856 they're wonderful when used correctly. 02:25:58.880 --> 02:26:01.656 , our bay is a third space for our 02:26:01.680 --> 02:26:04.056 residents. It is a place that's serene 02:26:04.080 --> 02:26:06.856 and relaxing most days. Um, 02:26:06.880 --> 02:26:08.776 unfortunately in summer we have a lot of 02:26:08.800 --> 02:26:11.096 show ponies that come to our bay and 02:26:11.120 --> 02:26:14.120 like to show off with their big big 02:26:15.200 --> 02:26:16.856 horsepower 02:26:16.880 --> 02:26:19.880 jet skis. Um, and as much as they may 02:26:20.479 --> 02:26:22.776 be, you know, hooning and thinking that 02:26:22.800 --> 02:26:24.856 they're having fun, it's so dangerous. 02:26:24.880 --> 02:26:27.096 I've seen them firsthand. I've been in 02:26:27.120 --> 02:26:29.656 the bay firsthand when they, you know, 02:26:29.680 --> 02:26:31.656 like little mosquitoes. We've got 02:26:31.680 --> 02:26:33.335 penguins there, we've got kids there, 02:26:33.359 --> 02:26:34.856 we've got dogs there, we've got people 02:26:34.880 --> 02:26:37.335 there. It is not a place for honing 02:26:37.359 --> 02:26:39.335 really. You know, go down to Dana if 02:26:39.359 --> 02:26:42.359 that's what you want to do. Um, 02:26:42.800 --> 02:26:45.496 we won't put up with this as much as we 02:26:45.520 --> 02:26:48.520 can. We will advocate to government. We 02:26:48.560 --> 02:26:51.096 will um protect our community as much as 02:26:51.120 --> 02:26:53.576 we can. So I completely support this and 02:26:53.600 --> 02:26:56.600 I wish I wish we could just ban them. 02:26:57.120 --> 02:26:59.096 Thank you councelor Jay. Any other 02:26:59.120 --> 02:27:02.120 speakers to the motion? 02:27:03.359 --> 02:27:05.415 All right. does the mover wish to 02:27:05.439 --> 02:27:06.536 close? 02:27:06.560 --> 02:27:08.616 Just to thank the community who has 02:27:08.640 --> 02:27:11.096 raised the topic and Simon and Richard 02:27:11.120 --> 02:27:14.120 who are dedicated there. You know Simon 02:27:14.960 --> 02:27:16.536 as a lifesaver and Richard at the 02:27:16.560 --> 02:27:19.335 harbor. Thank you for your work, 02:27:19.359 --> 02:27:20.856 especially 02:27:20.880 --> 02:27:22.455 to all the lifesavers who are going 02:27:22.479 --> 02:27:25.479 to dedicate their time over summer to 02:27:25.760 --> 02:27:28.536 protect our beaches and our swimmers. 02:27:28.560 --> 02:27:31.560 And the last thing they need is jet 02:27:31.600 --> 02:27:33.176 skis driving around and creating more 02:27:33.200 --> 02:27:35.896 hustle. So I hope hopefully everybody 02:27:35.920 --> 02:27:38.920 will support this notice of motion. 02:27:39.680 --> 02:27:42.680 Thank you. the motion is now put. All 02:27:43.040 --> 02:27:45.335 those in favor 02:27:45.359 --> 02:27:47.576 that is carried unanimously. Thank you 02:27:47.600 --> 02:27:49.096 councelor Thomann for that notice of 02:27:49.120 --> 02:27:51.335 motion and highlighting a pressing need 02:27:51.359 --> 02:27:53.816 in our community. That motion once again 02:27:53.840 --> 02:27:56.840 is carried unanimously. Item 15 reports 02:27:56.960 --> 02:27:59.960 by councelor delegates. 02:28:00.160 --> 02:28:03.160 Who wishes to share? Councelor J. 02:28:08.560 --> 02:28:11.560 I'll get my notes. 02:28:12.560 --> 02:28:15.415 Um, I would like to report that last 02:28:15.439 --> 02:28:18.439 week, um, myself, 02:28:19.520 --> 02:28:22.520 , executive Kylie Bennett and our team 02:28:22.720 --> 02:28:25.720 from council, um, , Shona, Simone, 02:28:27.520 --> 02:28:29.976 Kate, Kim, and Ruby. Thank you. We 02:28:30.000 --> 02:28:31.576 attended the walk against family 02:28:31.600 --> 02:28:34.455 violence in the City put on by Respect 02:28:34.479 --> 02:28:37.479 Victoria. Um, it was a really powerful 02:28:37.520 --> 02:28:40.520 day. Last year there was 8,000 02:28:40.640 --> 02:28:43.256 um 8,000 participants roughly. This year 02:28:43.280 --> 02:28:45.976 there was 20,000 02:28:46.000 --> 02:28:48.295 which was both great to see the 02:28:48.319 --> 02:28:50.455 awareness and the turnout and also so 02:28:50.479 --> 02:28:53.479 frightening to see 02:28:53.680 --> 02:28:56.536 all sorts of walks of of life all have 02:28:56.560 --> 02:28:59.560 experienced family violence. Um women 02:29:01.520 --> 02:29:03.656 are disproportionately 02:29:03.680 --> 02:29:05.176 affected. 02:29:05.200 --> 02:29:08.200 men obviously, but but women are. 02:29:08.240 --> 02:29:11.016 Um what was fantastic was to see so many 02:29:11.040 --> 02:29:13.576 men at the at the march and at the walk 02:29:13.600 --> 02:29:16.600 and their commitment to um creating a a 02:29:18.319 --> 02:29:21.176 society built on love essentially. That 02:29:21.200 --> 02:29:23.016 was the powerful message through all the 02:29:23.040 --> 02:29:25.496 stories. Um that was a powerful message 02:29:25.520 --> 02:29:27.496 that love is the answer and that is what 02:29:27.520 --> 02:29:30.520 will heal us. So um loved our hats, 02:29:30.560 --> 02:29:32.776 loved our banner. Um, thank you to the 02:29:32.800 --> 02:29:35.576 staff that do work in this area. Um, 02:29:35.600 --> 02:29:38.600 City of Port Phillip, I think we have 02:29:38.880 --> 02:29:41.816 had just over 1,300 reported incidents 02:29:41.840 --> 02:29:44.840 of family violence, which is lower than 02:29:45.600 --> 02:29:47.096 the averages in a lot of other 02:29:47.120 --> 02:29:48.616 communities, which is just as 02:29:48.640 --> 02:29:51.096 frightening. So, as a council, I know 02:29:51.120 --> 02:29:52.696 that we're very committed to doing work 02:29:52.720 --> 02:29:54.216 in this area and supporting our 02:29:54.240 --> 02:29:56.616 community. So I just want to commend um 02:29:56.640 --> 02:29:59.176 the staff and the organizers respect 02:29:59.200 --> 02:30:02.200 Victoria and everyone. I mean it was 02:30:02.399 --> 02:30:04.375 wild. There was services and charities 02:30:04.399 --> 02:30:06.616 and politicians and it was massive 02:30:06.640 --> 02:30:08.776 flotilla. So it was a really powerful 02:30:08.800 --> 02:30:11.096 day and I look forward to um making this 02:30:11.120 --> 02:30:14.120 a part of you know our term. So thank 02:30:14.880 --> 02:30:15.976 you Kylie. 02:30:16.000 --> 02:30:17.896 Thank you councelor Jay for representing 02:30:17.920 --> 02:30:19.656 us at that event as well as other 02:30:19.680 --> 02:30:21.896 representative of City port Philip there 02:30:21.920 --> 02:30:24.920 too. Thank you. Any other delegate 02:30:25.600 --> 02:30:28.600 reports that we wish to share? 02:30:28.640 --> 02:30:31.496 Councelor Halliday. 02:30:31.520 --> 02:30:34.520 thank you, Mayor. two weeks ago, 02:30:35.200 --> 02:30:38.200 it was my privilege to attend the 02:30:38.479 --> 02:30:41.479 MAV and Netzero Academyy's climate 02:30:41.520 --> 02:30:44.520 risk what was it called again? I 02:30:44.880 --> 02:30:46.455 should know what it's called. Climate 02:30:46.479 --> 02:30:49.096 risk and opportunity for counselors 02:30:49.120 --> 02:30:51.976 training. Um and there myself and nine 02:30:52.000 --> 02:30:54.856 counselors from a very diverse range of 02:30:54.880 --> 02:30:57.496 um of local government areas explored 02:30:57.520 --> 02:31:00.520 the the the context of climate risk 02:31:00.640 --> 02:31:03.640 and um explored collaboratively the 02:31:04.000 --> 02:31:06.455 different risks that our different cl um 02:31:06.479 --> 02:31:08.455 council areas might face. And this 02:31:08.479 --> 02:31:11.479 ranged from Gibsland to Windham to 02:31:13.760 --> 02:31:16.455 Heburn and us here in the City of 02:31:16.479 --> 02:31:19.479 Port Phillip. Um it was a very useful 02:31:20.880 --> 02:31:23.880 and informative um day there of of 02:31:24.399 --> 02:31:27.399 training and exploration and once again 02:31:27.439 --> 02:31:30.439 um broadened my horizon to the different 02:31:30.880 --> 02:31:33.016 risks and contexts that different 02:31:33.040 --> 02:31:35.335 counselors face especially those in 02:31:35.359 --> 02:31:37.816 areas which are more rural, those that 02:31:37.840 --> 02:31:40.840 rely on tourism and and where you 02:31:41.280 --> 02:31:44.056 know the the threat of bush fires um 02:31:44.080 --> 02:31:46.136 diminishes the tourist appeal of those 02:31:46.160 --> 02:31:49.160 places um in the summer and just areas 02:31:49.920 --> 02:31:52.375 like ours where we are juggling and 02:31:52.399 --> 02:31:54.616 balancing the competing interests of 02:31:54.640 --> 02:31:57.640 densification with the um the risks of 02:31:58.000 --> 02:32:00.056 flooding and coastal hazards that we 02:32:00.080 --> 02:32:01.576 have here in the City of Port Phillip. 02:32:01.600 --> 02:32:04.600 Um so once again very useful and 02:32:04.720 --> 02:32:06.776 something that I'll bring back with me 02:32:06.800 --> 02:32:09.656 with in all my decision- making here and 02:32:09.680 --> 02:32:11.256 thank you council holiday for attending 02:32:11.280 --> 02:32:13.016 that event. Unfortunately my calendar 02:32:13.040 --> 02:32:14.696 has become a bit crowded so I was not 02:32:14.720 --> 02:32:16.295 able to join you. So, thank you for 02:32:16.319 --> 02:32:18.216 being able to attend. Any other 02:32:18.240 --> 02:32:21.240 councilors wish to speak to delegate 02:32:21.359 --> 02:32:23.176 reports we wish to share with our 02:32:23.200 --> 02:32:26.200 colleagues and our community? 02:32:26.720 --> 02:32:29.335 I would like to share a couple of items. 02:32:29.359 --> 02:32:32.295 we recently opened the soul green 02:32:32.319 --> 02:32:34.696 new playground equipment and it looks 02:32:34.720 --> 02:32:36.936 it's a fantastic transformation. You 02:32:36.960 --> 02:32:38.295 know, earlier tonight we talked about 02:32:38.319 --> 02:32:40.056 the community engagement policy and one 02:32:40.080 --> 02:32:41.816 of the stories that really shone for me 02:32:41.840 --> 02:32:44.840 during that um opening was the fact that 02:32:45.120 --> 02:32:48.056 we had a young person suggest a flying 02:32:48.080 --> 02:32:50.455 fox as part of the play equipment. We 02:32:50.479 --> 02:32:52.536 then delivered that flying fox based 02:32:52.560 --> 02:32:54.455 on that engagement. So we probably 02:32:54.479 --> 02:32:56.696 created another generation of activists. 02:32:56.720 --> 02:32:59.656 So congratulations to council in 02:32:59.680 --> 02:33:01.176 ensuring that we're going to have many 02:33:01.200 --> 02:33:03.256 many years of future activism in the 02:33:03.280 --> 02:33:04.776 City of Port Phillip. you know, it 02:33:04.800 --> 02:33:06.856 actually shows the impact that can take 02:33:06.880 --> 02:33:09.880 place in engagement. I also just want to 02:33:10.880 --> 02:33:13.415 um highlight that over the weekend I 02:33:13.439 --> 02:33:15.176 represented the City of Port Phillip at 02:33:15.200 --> 02:33:18.200 the Jewish Museum the Gandalf Center 02:33:18.479 --> 02:33:21.016 of Judeica recognizing their 30th 02:33:21.040 --> 02:33:23.656 anniversary at their current Elma Road 02:33:23.680 --> 02:33:26.295 premises. But their origins actually 02:33:26.319 --> 02:33:28.616 go back to 1977 02:33:28.640 --> 02:33:31.096 when a group of volunteers came together 02:33:31.120 --> 02:33:33.816 with the concept of curating the 02:33:33.840 --> 02:33:35.896 collection. And they started with no 02:33:35.920 --> 02:33:38.920 art, no money, no premises. And over 02:33:39.520 --> 02:33:41.176 time they've been able to build a very 02:33:41.200 --> 02:33:43.415 substantive collection, a very 02:33:43.439 --> 02:33:45.736 substantive community and being able to 02:33:45.760 --> 02:33:48.760 tell a whole range of of stories. And 02:33:49.359 --> 02:33:52.359 you know that's really important in the 02:33:52.479 --> 02:33:54.696 current climate that we're within where 02:33:54.720 --> 02:33:56.536 our social cohesion has been frrained as 02:33:56.560 --> 02:33:59.496 many of us have commented on and you 02:33:59.520 --> 02:34:02.056 know the disunityity and unfortunately 02:34:02.080 --> 02:34:04.936 the um 02:34:04.960 --> 02:34:06.455 impact that that has on on on 02:34:06.479 --> 02:34:08.295 communities and it's just fantastic to 02:34:08.319 --> 02:34:11.016 see that celebration of how stories can 02:34:11.040 --> 02:34:13.176 be told and what is a fantastic 02:34:13.200 --> 02:34:15.736 achievement of community coming together 02:34:15.760 --> 02:34:17.976 to tell a story. So, I did want to 02:34:18.000 --> 02:34:21.000 recognize and congratulate the museum on 02:34:21.120 --> 02:34:24.120 that milestone as well as also its 02:34:24.640 --> 02:34:26.536 future plans in how it wishes to 02:34:26.560 --> 02:34:28.536 progress and continue telling the 02:34:28.560 --> 02:34:31.176 stories of an essential part and a vital 02:34:31.200 --> 02:34:33.335 part of not just our community but the 02:34:33.359 --> 02:34:36.295 story of Australia as well. 02:34:36.319 --> 02:34:38.295 Any other councelor delegate reports 02:34:38.319 --> 02:34:41.319 that we wish for? Councelor Thomann. 02:34:41.920 --> 02:34:44.920 As as the Mayor has indicated his 02:34:45.600 --> 02:34:47.896 attendance at the Jewish museum which 02:34:47.920 --> 02:34:50.216 was you know a great 02:34:50.240 --> 02:34:53.240 um celebration and um you know they 02:34:53.760 --> 02:34:54.936 didn't have as you said they didn't have 02:34:54.960 --> 02:34:57.496 any money but they had a plan and 02:34:57.520 --> 02:34:59.976 they had lots of ideas and luckily they 02:35:00.000 --> 02:35:02.936 had one person who came to the fourth 02:35:02.960 --> 02:35:04.536 with a lot of money straight from the 02:35:04.560 --> 02:35:06.536 beginning. So that was a good help. So 02:35:06.560 --> 02:35:09.560 thanks Mr. Gandalf and John and Pauline. 02:35:09.840 --> 02:35:12.840 but I had the pleasure of opening 02:35:13.120 --> 02:35:16.120 a lane way in on Wellington Street the 02:35:16.720 --> 02:35:19.720 seekers way. Um and what the reason 02:35:22.080 --> 02:35:23.816 you know there were two Nelson Streets 02:35:23.840 --> 02:35:26.840 as it has been reported and we one 02:35:27.600 --> 02:35:30.600 Nelson Street became seekers way because 02:35:30.640 --> 02:35:32.936 Judith Durham the singer of the seekers 02:35:32.960 --> 02:35:35.335 used to have a street used to have 02:35:35.359 --> 02:35:37.096 a house there which was used by 02:35:37.120 --> 02:35:40.120 management and rehearsal space etc. But 02:35:40.479 --> 02:35:42.696 also there's a very strong connections 02:35:42.720 --> 02:35:45.256 with most of the members of the seekers 02:35:45.280 --> 02:35:48.280 who have actually lived in St. Hilda 02:35:48.319 --> 02:35:50.216 have gone to school in Sin Hilda, have 02:35:50.240 --> 02:35:53.240 played football with Sin Hilda. have 02:35:54.080 --> 02:35:57.080 performed once in 1968 at the pal and 02:35:58.319 --> 02:36:01.319 also came back 10 years ago for the the 02:36:02.399 --> 02:36:05.399 10th anniversies 02:36:05.439 --> 02:36:07.736 of the Victorian Hall of Fame. So there 02:36:07.760 --> 02:36:10.760 is a very strong connection of the band 02:36:11.680 --> 02:36:14.680 um with St Kilda and the City of Port 02:36:15.200 --> 02:36:16.936 Phip. So I think it was a great 02:36:16.960 --> 02:36:18.616 initiative to do this and I know at the 02:36:18.640 --> 02:36:20.696 moment there's a consultation about two 02:36:20.720 --> 02:36:23.256 other streets so lane to be renamed 02:36:23.280 --> 02:36:25.335 after one after renegaya who I can tell 02:36:25.359 --> 02:36:27.736 you was definitely a singular resident 02:36:27.760 --> 02:36:30.455 because she lived in my building. and 02:36:30.479 --> 02:36:32.295 so I know she was she was there when she 02:36:32.319 --> 02:36:34.536 came back from the states. She performed 02:36:34.560 --> 02:36:36.696 at me hall and at Luna Park several 02:36:36.720 --> 02:36:39.720 times and the other one after Spenc. 02:36:40.080 --> 02:36:43.080 But what actually um I received an email 02:36:43.200 --> 02:36:44.616 which was quite interesting. I don't 02:36:44.640 --> 02:36:47.176 know how a gentleman quite an older 02:36:47.200 --> 02:36:48.776 gentleman who actually wrote normally 02:36:48.800 --> 02:36:50.616 he's very negative but this time he was 02:36:50.640 --> 02:36:53.016 very pleased and he actually said we 02:36:53.040 --> 02:36:55.016 should actually look at changing a lot 02:36:55.040 --> 02:36:56.696 of names because the names now are 02:36:56.720 --> 02:36:58.616 totally irrelevant streets they were 02:36:58.640 --> 02:37:01.640 named 150 years ago you know we 02:37:01.760 --> 02:37:04.760 should modernize our streets so they 02:37:05.120 --> 02:37:08.056 actually mean something to people and 02:37:08.080 --> 02:37:09.576 I don't know if it's obviously it's 02:37:09.600 --> 02:37:11.576 always complicated to change names but 02:37:11.600 --> 02:37:13.976 no one has got business no one gets 02:37:14.000 --> 02:37:15.976 anymore. So, not much. It's all 02:37:16.000 --> 02:37:17.816 electronic. But I think it's quite an 02:37:17.840 --> 02:37:20.840 interesting way of looking at how we can 02:37:22.160 --> 02:37:25.096 modernize our City by its street name. 02:37:25.120 --> 02:37:27.816 So maybe that's something we can look at 02:37:27.840 --> 02:37:30.056 and be modern. 02:37:30.080 --> 02:37:31.656 And thank you councelor Timman for 02:37:31.680 --> 02:37:33.576 representing the City at the unveiling 02:37:33.600 --> 02:37:36.375 of seekers way. Any other councilors 02:37:36.399 --> 02:37:39.399 wish to share delegate reports? 02:37:41.040 --> 02:37:43.415 Going once, going twice. All right. 02:37:43.439 --> 02:37:45.656 we are moving on from that item. Thank 02:37:45.680 --> 02:37:48.680 you for sharing those reports. 02:37:48.800 --> 02:37:51.335 Item 16, urgent business. Councilors, do 02:37:51.359 --> 02:37:54.359 we have any items of urgent business? 02:37:56.160 --> 02:37:59.160 The silence is deafening. In which case, 02:37:59.280 --> 02:38:02.280 we do have one confidential report 02:38:02.560 --> 02:38:05.016 listed on the agenda and that is the 02:38:05.040 --> 02:38:06.856 road childcare center, the 02:38:06.880 --> 02:38:09.335 appointment of the builder. So we 02:38:09.359 --> 02:38:11.256 will be closing the meeting to the 02:38:11.280 --> 02:38:14.280 public. Before I we do or before I do, I 02:38:14.479 --> 02:38:16.536 just like to say this is our penultimate 02:38:16.560 --> 02:38:19.335 council meeting for 2025. 02:38:19.359 --> 02:38:21.335 Our final council meeting of the year is 02:38:21.359 --> 02:38:24.359 next week. Just want to thank the 02:38:24.399 --> 02:38:26.536 members of the gallery, members who 02:38:26.560 --> 02:38:29.560 watch us online for your ongoing 02:38:29.760 --> 02:38:31.576 participation in our council meetings 02:38:31.600 --> 02:38:32.936 and we look forward to hopefully seeing 02:38:32.960 --> 02:38:35.496 some of you again next week. 02:38:35.520 --> 02:38:36.856 And thank you to the members of the 02:38:36.880 --> 02:38:39.335 public that have shared cards in 02:38:39.359 --> 02:38:41.415 recognition of Christmas as well. 02:38:41.439 --> 02:38:44.439 Thank you. 02:38:44.720 --> 02:38:47.720 So I will as um we proceed to closing 02:38:48.800 --> 02:38:50.136 the public component of the meeting, I 02:38:50.160 --> 02:38:52.056 now call on a counselor to move that the 02:38:52.080 --> 02:38:54.056 meeting be closed to members of the 02:38:54.080 --> 02:38:57.080 public to consider confidential items. 02:38:57.200 --> 02:39:00.200 Are they are you waving or moving? 02:39:01.040 --> 02:39:03.016 Moving and waving. See see we could do 02:39:03.040 --> 02:39:04.856 we can only task, right? Councelor 02:39:04.880 --> 02:39:06.936 Buckingham has moved. Councelor Thomann 02:39:06.960 --> 02:39:09.960 is seconded. 02:39:10.080 --> 02:39:12.856 We'll see you next week, Theresa. I 02:39:12.880 --> 02:39:15.880 will now put the motion to a vote. 02:39:16.479 --> 02:39:19.479 That motion is carried and the doors are 02:39:19.840 --> 02:39:22.056 closed. 02:39:22.080 --> 02:39:24.616 So we've now concluded concluded the 02:39:24.640 --> 02:39:26.936 public part of the meeting and no 02:39:26.960 --> 02:39:29.576 further items to be discussed. So, 02:39:29.600 --> 02:39:31.415 thank you for the members of the public 02:39:31.439 --> 02:39:33.496 who did attend. And we're moving into 02:39:33.520 --> 02:39:36.520 the closed item of tonight.