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All right, welcome to tonight and the

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final meeting for the council year.

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Tonight's meeting of the Port Phillip

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City Council. I'd like to say you're

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here to see us, but we know there's a

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number of agenda items tonight that have

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solicited  a lot of interest in our

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community. So, thank you for making the

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time to attend this evening as well as

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also to the people that'll be joining us

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online.

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The council, we respectfully acknowledge

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the traditional owners and custodians of

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the Kulin Nation. We acknowledge their

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legacy and spiritual connection to the

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land and motors across the City of Port

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Phillip and we pay our heartfelt

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respects to their Elders past, present

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and emerging.

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The meeting tonight is being conducted

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in a hybrid style and it's streamed via

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council's webcast page as well as

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Facebook live. So streams and recordings

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of council meetings are copyrighted and

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cannot be altered, reproduced or

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republished without the permission of

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council. And just a reminder that if we

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do experience any technical difficulties

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this evening, we will adjoin the meeting

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for a short time to resolve any issues.

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But so far so good with  our online

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technology.

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I'd like to remind and I know there's a

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number of issues here that many of us

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feel passionate about and it's great

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once again that we have such strong

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interests in these issues. But I would

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like to remind everyone that if you are

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addressing council that you must extend

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due courtesy and respect to council and

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the processes under which we operate and

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you must take direction from the chair

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which is me this evening whenever called

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on to do so. Speakers must remain

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respectful and statements or questions

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must not be defamatory, offensive or

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objectionable objectionable or aimed at

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embarrassing a counselor or member of

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council staff or relate to a matter

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outside the powers of council. And

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please also be mindful that you must not

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disclose another individual's personal

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or confidential information such as a

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person's name, address, or any other

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piece of information that is not

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publicly available and would be

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considered private.

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Should anyone not  should anyone

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participating at tonight's meeting not

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take direction of the chair or comply

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with these conditions, we do have the

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discretion to remove that person from

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the meeting. And hopefully we won't get

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to that point, but I do just want to be

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upfront about the rules of engagement.

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And I'd also like to remind members of

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the public  that you must not approach

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counselors at the desks during this

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meeting. And if you do have any

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documentation or anything you'd like to

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distribute to counselors, please 

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distribute that via the governance desk

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to my right, to your left, near the

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door, and they'll be able to distribute

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that to us across the chamber. In the

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unlikely event of an emergency, please

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also follow the direction of the

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emergency wardens and the governance

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staff. And on that note, we are formally

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opening our council meeting for the 10th

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of December. Once again, thank you to

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everyone here this evening.

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As we begin tonight's agenda, do we have

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any apologies from councilors?

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We have councelor Jay online, I believe.

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She just got a tissue.

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Yep. Councelor Jay is present and online

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due to a flu bug that's been going

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around. Every other counselor here looks

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present. So, I'm going to assume there's

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no apologies.

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Absolutely.

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Minutes of the previous meeting. So,

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councilors, minutes of the meeting of

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the council meeting on the 3rd of

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December, believe it or not, that was

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only a week ago, have been circulated.

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Are there any questions regarding those

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minutes?

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No questions. Can I please have a motion

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to confirm those minutes? Oh,

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competition there. I'm going to move

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councelor Thomann seconded Councelor,

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sorry, Deputy Mayor Mears. We're going to

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put that motion to a vote. All those in

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favor, show of hands. That is carried

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unanimously.

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And item three, declaration of interest.

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Do  any councilors tonight have a

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conflict of interest in a matter being

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discussed at tonight's meeting?

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I'm going to assume that silence means

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no. All right, that takes us now to item

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four, public question time and

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submissions. So, we'll start with 

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public question time. And we have one

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speaker asking a general question and

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then we'll sorry two speakers that will

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be asking an item tonight. um a general

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public question time and then we'll get

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to the agenda items. So our first

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speaker is Frank Artuso.

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Come on down.

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Two minutes.

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Two minutes.

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Words

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point.

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You're an expert, Frank. So please start

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with your name and suburb and then you

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have two minutes.

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Frank Artuso. The state government

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assessed Port Phillip residents behavior

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poorly compared to neighboring

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municipalities regarding recycling. Our

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poor individual behaviors and habits is

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wasting 800,000 to $1 million annually

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on reprocessing contaminated recycling

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materials. Money better utilized on

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essential community benefiting services.

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A soiled pizza box is not a

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recyclable item. Question one, what were

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the actual 2425 financial year costs and

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budgeted 2526 costs for recycling and

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reprocessing contaminated recycling

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material? Question two, what are the

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processes sliding scale penalties above

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the allowable 10% contamination

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threshold? Three, are fees and penalties

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calculated per an annual waste truck

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load and actual waste truck load and

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therefore linked to collection route and

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day of the week? Four, what auditing

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processes

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verify the processes charges to City of

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Port Phillip and what intervals are

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these charges invoice to benchmark

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strategy progress in dollar terms. Five,

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is there an identifiable correlation

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between seasonal and event periods and

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the costs associated with recycling and

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reprocessing of recycling materials? If

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yes, then how is the City of Port

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Phillip using this information as part

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of a strategic solution? Six. Can public

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reporting in quarterly CI reports,

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newsletters, websites, including dollar

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value metrics linked to waste and

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recycling strategy  targets? Seven,

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will the City of Port Phillip education

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 initiatives include dollar value

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implications to improve residents

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understanding of this issue and buying

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on proposed solutions? Eight, is the $2

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million general waste red bin lid

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changeover fully government grant fund

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 re  funded? Nine. Will the City

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Port Phillip repurpose the current

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serviceable old burgundy bin lids as an

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exampler case study guided by the

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circular economy act of 2021?

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Frank, your timing is always impeccable.

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But you did forget your suburb.

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All right, there you go.

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If you could just state your suburb 

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for the record.

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Did I say Albert Park?

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No, you did not have a simple Albert

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Park. But batler, sorry.

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Hello.

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the acting City.

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I'll pass through to Paul Wood, the

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acting  general manager of City

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infrastructure to provide a response.

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Thank you, Frank, and through you,

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mayor thank you for the really

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comprehensive questions. They cover a

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lot of detail and  detail that for

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some that I will need to take on notice.

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So, what I'm proposing to do is provide

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you with a written response to all of

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the answer questions tomorrow and we'll

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also make  public publicly available

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 the responses as well.

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Thank you, Frank.  we have a question

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from Jennifer Edge.

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No.

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So, that question will be provide.

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All right. we can provide something on

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in writing if you'd like.

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Thank you.

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Brings us now to items  speaking to

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items on the agenda.  so the first

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item that we have speakers who wish to

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address council on is item 6.1 the

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petition for the continuation of social

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inclusion funding for 26 to 27.  we

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have Alfonso Salonga.

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Welcome Alfonso. So if you could please

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start with your name and suburb and then

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you have two minutes. Thank you.

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My name is Alonso Salonga from

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Balaclava. I'm a client of social

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inclusion program of the City of Port

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Phillip.

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What has social inclusion program done

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for us? It improves our physical

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fitness.

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My wife used to uses a walking stick

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before we joined the the program.

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She is no longer using the walking

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stick. Now I am her walking stick.

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It has reduced our loneliness

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and isolation.

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We became friends with other clients and

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staff who are kind and caring. We felt

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greater level of com community

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connection and cohesion. We felt that we

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belong.

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If the City of Port Phillip step backs

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or withdraw from the social inclusion

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program, no specialist AIDS care

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provider can deliver the same as the

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current one. Social inclusion is a core

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service, not discretionary.

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Council's own plan

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identifies isolation, discrimination,

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and fragmentation as high-risk issues.

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Therefore, cutting this funding would

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directly contradict the 202535

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council plan, the healthy connected

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community strategy and the funded

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initiatives for 2026.

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Honorable members of this council,

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most of you are young, but one day you

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will get old and retired.

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You will feel aches and pains especially

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in the morning. When you do then you can

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ask yourself, have I done enough to

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aging positively in the City of Port

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Philly?

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Thank you, Alfonso. You're at time and

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that was a great way of closing.

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Thank you.

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I can say I've certainly aged over the

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past three, four weeks. So,

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, our next speaker is to item 6.1,

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Philip Whiteitman.

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Come on down. Once again, if you could

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please, um, start with your name and

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suburb, and then you'll have two

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minutes.

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My name is Philip Whiteman. I live in

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St. Kilda and I've only just joined the

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social inclusion program as of about a

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month ago or so. I did try lots of other

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different things through my age care and

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other types of facilities available

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within the area but quite frankly they

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were all quite disjointed and you had to

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really push them to try and get your

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thing out of them and most often they

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didn't respond and when they did it was

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well and truly too late. I have found

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this  inclusion program that I've been

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involved with to be really excellent.

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The three staff who assist if not four

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are always on my case of suggesting

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things and trying to encourage me to get

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out of the place. I've recently retired

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and my whole life has sort of gone

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upside down. My family's sort of moved

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on and I'm trying to find life in a new

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in a new environment that I'm not used

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to as a an older person. So, this

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inclusion program has been really good

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in terms of focusing me and keeping me

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out of the house and giving me things to

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do. And the lunches from once a week are

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just excellent in terms of trying to

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meet other people within the area. So,

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how much I got another minute? Well, I

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did jump on to   chat GDP and I did

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put in the the last report and the

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financials and it came back with some

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stuff that was really confusing. So, I

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don't know whether I want to really take

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you all through that. U other than to

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say that the I think the one thing I did

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connect from all this is that the the

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social inclusion is really an important

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part as I've tried to describe of

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actually connecting people with the

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different facilities and things

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available within your community. And

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without it, I think I'm going to find

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myself in the same position I was prior

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to all this where I was just wandering

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around trying to find different places.

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And the problem is when you're on your

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own, you go to the local cafes, you got

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to buy a coffee to be there, then you're

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on your own for another hour or two. So

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it's sort of so the whole day sort of

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drift away. So this is really good the

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way it sort of pulls itself together.

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So, I might just finish off there with

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nothing much or it's going to be useful

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to say, but anyway, I really hope you'll

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try and keep it going for next year or

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two and try and see if we can

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incorporate incorporated within this the

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council budget. Thank you.

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Thank you, Phillip.

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We have two speakers for item 8.1, the

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homelessness and affordable housing

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strategies. So, we'll start with Charlie

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Beckley.

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And while Charlie's coming to the front

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to the front desk,  our next speaker

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will be Angelica D. Camilo. If you could

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make yourself down to that chair in the

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front, too, please.

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Please start with name and suburb and

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then you have two minutes.

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Thank you, mayor and counselors. My name

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is Charlie Beckley. Um my suburb is

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Castle Main. I work in South Melbourne.

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 I'm the CEO of Southport Community

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Housing Group,  an organization that

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for over 40 years has focused our

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efforts on supporting individuals at the

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margins of society.  we understand the

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challenges of the work and the value of

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partnerships  in delivering positive

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housing outcoMears.  I'm speaking in

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support of recommendations of item 8.1

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 in regards to the proposed

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homelessness and affordable housing

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strategy this evening and also  10.1

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on the proposed community safety plan.

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The City of Port Phillip has much to be

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proud of in the leadership it's shown 

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in the past in regards to initiatives

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such as the Port Phillip Zero, the newly

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constructed Madam House  and generally

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in its compassionate and human rights

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based approach to homelessness. Today on

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International Human Rights Day, we stand

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with the community sector and roundt

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participants based in the City of Port

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Phillip that believe no change is

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required to local laws at item 10.2 too

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before the council this evening. Thank

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you for the opportunity to speak.

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Thank you for giving us some time, too.

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Thank you, Charlie.

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Angelica, if you could please start with

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your name and suburb and then two

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minutes.

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Yep. Um, hi everyone. I'm Angelica from

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St. K East. I'm first thank you mayor

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and councilors for the opportunity to

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speak. Um, I I'm here because I really

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care about our community and I care

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about our community safety and safety

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for everyone, including and especially

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the most vulnerable. And so I'm speaking

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against the local law change similar to

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as Charlie mentioned. Um firstly just to

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acknowledge the the great work you've

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done to tackle homelessness and show the

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care that you have for it. Really I

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commend your commitment and dedication

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to this. For me this will not improve

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community safety and it won't reduce

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homelessness in any significant way for

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our community. And you know, we've heard

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it from community service providers who

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have said they don't want the local law

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change. And I know that our council is

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already so stressed and our local law

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officers will be the ones having to

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implement this. And it will be a

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tremendous strain and pressure on them

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too. And you know, there's real

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solutions that we can we can implement

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here like for example a homelessness a

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dedicated homelessness hub or real

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genuine trader and community engagement

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as well as urgent and investment funding

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in St. Kilda community housing. You

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know, these are great initiatives that

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we can sort of propel forward and show

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the council is the leader in this space.

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You know, it's real actionable um

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considerate and measured actions that

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will genuinely make a difference in our

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community. And I know you all care about

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it so much. And that's that's the thing.

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That's why we're all here. We really

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care about our community. And we don't

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want just a local law change that's on a

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piece of paper. We want to genuinely

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make sure that people in our community

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feel safe and everyone from every

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aspect. So, I really urge you as you're

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going through this process to really

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reflect on who it will impact and how

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you can make sure that you're taking

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that real real step forward because I

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know you're under a lot of pressure to

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do something about it. But just want to

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urge you to make sure that it's a really

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strong um evidence-based approach that

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you're listening to the service

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providers and doing the best you can for

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our community.

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Thank you, Angelica.

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I'll move to item 10.1. Jack

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Holidayiday, I believe you're you wish

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to speak to this item.

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Once you arrive, if you could please

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start with your name and suburb, and

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then you will have two minutes. While

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Jack, you're making your way to the

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front desk.  if Anne Michaels and

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Andrew Schwaran will be the next two

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speakers after after Jack. Over to you,

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Jack. Jack Holidayiday Bellaclava

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Mayor councilors and officers I'm

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speaking about item 101 the new council

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community safety plan which council will

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vote on tonight.

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12 months ago, council adopted councelor

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Buckingham's motion to establish a

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roundt

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involving key stakeholders including

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council, police, housing, health and

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community, legal and social service

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providers to review the current

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situation and make recommendations to

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address community safety issues.

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The round table made 37 recommendations.

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Nearly all of them have been

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incorporated into the community safety

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plan.

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These changes involve comprehensive

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strengthening of services, stronger

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collaboration with Victoria Police, and

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most importantly, significantly enhanced

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coordination across homelessness

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services and community service agencies

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with council committee increased funding

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especially to housing services.

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Significantly, all but one of the roundt

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stakeholders are opposed to the

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development of new local laws.

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The top priority of the community

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deliverative panel created by council

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earlier this year to inform the council

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plan was support for vulnerable people

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by more funding for support services and

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more housing for the homeless. Key

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feedback was the need for a balanced

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approach to community safety which

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didn't involve punitive measures.

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With council's commitment to a new

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community safety plan, it seems that it

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would be putting the cart before the

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horse in adopting new local laws which

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would only become relevant with the

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continued development of encampments.

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Surely it makes sense to implement the

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new plan and test its effectiveness

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before deciding that new local laws are

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necessary. For these reasons, I believe

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it would be a backward step for council

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to adopt options A or B. Thank you.

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Thank you, Jack.

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 what we're going to do is move to

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item 11.1. So, and then we'll round back

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on those other items and come back to 

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10.2. So, 11.1 is the South Melbourne

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special rate and charge scheme, the 2026

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to 31 intention to declare. And

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Michaels, if you could please start with

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your name and suburb, and then you'll

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have two minutes to speak to that item.

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Thank you. And Michaels from South

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Melbourne. Good evening, councilors, and

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thank you for the opportunity to speak.

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Um, I'm president of the Claridan and

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Coventry Streets Business Association

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and representing our committee in the

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South Melbourne business community. Over

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the past four years, we've had a

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volunteer-led association supported by

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small membership fees and the occasional

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grants. We've actually been able to

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deliver major outcoMears for the precinct

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including our illum lighting

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illumination works. Our portion coffee

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festival safety and advocacy has been

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quite a bit of work and also the

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coordination of our heritage brand

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restoration project. These achievements

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show what's possible, but they also

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highlight the limits of relying on ad

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hoc funding and volunteer resources. To

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keep South Melbourne strong, safe, and

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competitive, we need stable long-term

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funding. As per other major pre

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precincts in Port Phillip being Fitzroy

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Street, Ackland Street, Bay Street, and

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Carile Street, we're grateful for

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council's support this year to explore a

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special rate. And over the past six

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months, we worked closely with council

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officers and Peter McNab and Associates

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on business planning, financial

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modeling, boundary work, and extensive

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engagement with businesses. Through this

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process, we have secured 58% support

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within the proposed boundary, a clear

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recognition that South Melbourne must

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invest in its future. A special rate

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provides a transparent, locally directed

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funding mechanism, ensuring every dollar

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raised goes directly back into

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activation, marketing, safety, and

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business development. Tonight is not the

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final step, but it's an essential one.

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Progressing the intention to declare

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allows the statutory process to

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continue, giving all affected businesses

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the opportunity to participate.

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On behalf of the association, I strongly

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support council moving forward with the

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intention to declare and I thank you for

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your time and your continued support of

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our precinct. Thank you.

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Thank you, Wayne.

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And Andrew, if you can come on down and

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start with your name and suburb.

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Thank you again  Andrew Skcoin, proud

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resident of South Melbourne 3205. Again,

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I appreciate the opportunity to speak in

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front of council tonight. I am here as a

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local business owner, but more

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importantly as a committee member of the

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Claran Comventry Streets Association.

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As our president Anne Michaels has

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already stated, we're a solely

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voluntarily run group. And while we've

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been the beneficiary of various grants

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from the City of Port Phillip, I wanted

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to add my wholehearted support for the

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intention of your intention to declare a

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special rate for our precinct. If

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successful, this will give us vital

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funding to further enhance and promote

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our precinct and the businesses that

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operate within. As a president of the

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previous business association, I know

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too well what can be achieved with a

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strong, vibrant and wellrun

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organization.

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So I welcome the opportunity to vouch of

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what can be achieved by granting and

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running a special rate. I also wanted to

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add my thanks and support of Peter McNab

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and Associates in getting us this far

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and for the work and liaison of Miss

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Susie Fleti of the council in

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facilitating our wishes to reestablish a

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special rate and bring our suburb in

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line with other precincts within the

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within the City. Thank you. Thank you

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Andrew.  we're going to move on to

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item 11.2 two, the Port Melbourne

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special rate in charge scheme, the 2026

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to 31 intention to declare George Sinos,

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you're up. And Annabelle Jones, you're

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going to be the speaker after George, so

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you're already in the front.

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And once again, George, start with name

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and suburb and then you'll have two

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minutes. Thank you very much. Thanks for

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the opportunity. My name is George

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Singos. I'm here in my capaCity as

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secretary of the Paul Melbourne Business

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Association and also as a business owner

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having a business in Port Melbourne for

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the past 50 years. I've been involved

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with the special rate since it began in

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1995 and over that time I've seen

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firsthand the positive experience

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difference it has made in helping people

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bring together, supporting local

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traders, strengthening the identity of

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our precinct and creating real energy

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and momentum in Port Melbourne. When the

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um special rate is active and well

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supported, the whole area benefits. From

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a trader point of view, the scheme has

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allowed the business association to

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properly promote the precinct,

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communicate effectively with our members

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and businesses, and work closely with

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the community and with council City

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Philip. This cooperation has led to

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events initiatives that activate the

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shopping strip and improve the overall

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feel and amenity of the area.

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On behalf of the Port Melbourne Business

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Association Committee, we believe this

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scheme works. It supports local

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business, strengthens the community, and

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plays a key role in the future of our

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precinct,

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and we thank you for your support and

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continued support over the past

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20 years. Thank you.

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Thank you, George. And I'll see you

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along Bay Street soon. Annabelle Jones

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 who is speaking to item 13.3

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which is sorry 11.3 which is the Port

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Melbourne net ball infrastructure

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project. Welcome Annabelle. If you could

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please start with your name and suburb

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and then you'll have two minutes.

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Thank you. Annabelle Jones Port

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Melbourne. I'm the spokesperson for the

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cop dog network which was formed 18

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months ago and we've negotiated with

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council on the off leash guidelines and

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the concern is that there would be no

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net loss of off leash spaces and the

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area that they're considering putting

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these basketball courts is currently an

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off leashed area before you agree and

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put those tennis court or sorry net

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courts in will council assure that we've

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already got a green space ready as soon

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as works start so we're not losing off

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leash space.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you, Annabelle.

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All right.  that leads us now to item

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10.2, which is the proposed local law

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amendment update and draft protocol with

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police.  this is the main speaking

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item tonight. Once again, do just want

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to remind there's a variety of opinions

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on this topic. Please just be respectful

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to everyone who's speaking to this item.

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We're going to start with  Rocco Sice

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who is online.

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And  while we set up Rocco, the next

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speaker will be Rodney Mitchell.  if

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you could please into the front seat.

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Good evening, Mayor.

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 two minutes. Please start with your

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name and suburb.

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Roco Sarrai St Kildan.

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Good evening me and counselors. My

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name's Roco Sarachi. I live in in St.

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Kilda for over 15 years. I love this

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suburb. It's colorful, lively, and full

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of character. That's why we all call it

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home. I strongly support item 10.2,

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option B. The street camps across St.

00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.336
Kilda are no longer acceptable. not for

00:27:29.360 --> 00:27:31.015
the people living in them, for

00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:33.496
residents, and not for the businesses.

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This is not about punishing the

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homeless. My clients and neighbors,

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especially women, are now afraid to walk

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past these camps during the day to go to

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my class. People should not face drug

00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:47.816
use, harassment, and theft. This is

00:27:47.840 --> 00:27:50.840
neglect, not human rights. Examples how

00:27:51.120 --> 00:27:53.576
serious this is. The Jackson Street car

00:27:53.600 --> 00:27:55.655
park has become unsafe and the Wood

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Street car park that's near now boarded

00:27:58.159 --> 00:28:00.456
up is still unsafe. I drove past there

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going to work just now. This is

00:28:03.520 --> 00:28:05.655
spreading soon to Middle Park, Albert

00:28:05.679 --> 00:28:07.655
Park will be affected. Not in my

00:28:07.679 --> 00:28:10.456
backyard. Doesn't work. This impacts all

00:28:10.480 --> 00:28:12.616
of us. I've spoken to the head of

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policing of City of Port Phillip. Police

00:28:15.279 --> 00:28:17.336
need these tools to intervene to

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intervene safe and connect people with

00:28:19.919 --> 00:28:22.456
support. There is housing available, but

00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:24.936
they refuse it. This shows there's a

00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:26.936
deeper mental health and addiction

00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:29.960
challenges. We need more services, not

00:28:30.159 --> 00:28:33.159
political, photo ops, or media spins.

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Option B allows authorities to help

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vulnerable people safely and

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respectfully. Giving them a chance for

00:28:40.399 --> 00:28:43.399
real support, not leaving them on the

00:28:43.440 --> 00:28:45.736
street. That's not compassion. That's

00:28:45.760 --> 00:28:48.216
not helping them. Councilors, you were

00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:50.456
elected on commitments to community

00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:53.176
safety. Now this is time to step up and

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honor them. I urge you to support option

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B and restore safety, dignity, dignity

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for everyone in the City of Port

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Phillip. Thank you.

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Thank you, Rocco.

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Next speaker is Rodney Mitchell. And 

00:29:07.840 --> 00:29:10.056
after Rodney will be Lara Brown, who's

00:29:10.080 --> 00:29:11.976
virtual. So the next  inerson speaker

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will be Cla Mir. If you could please

00:29:13.760 --> 00:29:15.336
come to the front seat. Rody Mitchell,

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you have two minutes starting with your

00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:17.416
name and suburb.

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, Rod Mitchell, St. Kilda. Mayor, in

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response in March to Council Hardy's

00:29:21.679 --> 00:29:23.496
Safe Streets motion, both the premier of

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Victoria and local member for Magnamar

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spun a false narrative that the motion

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was about finding the homeless. The

00:29:30.080 --> 00:29:31.736
former mayor corrected the position by

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stating, can I be very clear of order?

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Which grounds, councelor Holidayiday?

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Error of fact.

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All right.  perhaps  might be worth

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just sort of focusing on where you'd

00:29:43.840 --> 00:29:45.015
like to go next.

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I don't think we can point of order

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residence. Mayor, can you confirm that?

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 the governance rules do enable it. 

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councelor Jay,

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mayor, can I just defend this position?

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I think um it'll be worth just

00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:58.936
establishing the position going forward.

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Rodney, in terms of the item before us

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on the agenda,

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the petition, there's two petitions that

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have been tabled with this and I'm

00:30:05.919 --> 00:30:08.919
trying to clarify about the petitions.

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Let's thank you focus on tip.

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All right. Councelor Betty J summarized

00:30:13.919 --> 00:30:15.736
it further. You cannot find a homeless

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person if they have no address to go to.

00:30:18.159 --> 00:30:20.456
The petition by Emma McNichol raised

00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:23.480
1,194 signatures. The petition headline

00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:25.895
said, "No fines for the homeless." And

00:30:25.919 --> 00:30:28.135
in that falsehood, the word fine was

00:30:28.159 --> 00:30:31.159
used 13 tiMears. That petition was based

00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:34.200
on a lie. A lie carries no weight.

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Mayor,

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point of order, Mayor.

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Yeah. Let's move comment to what is

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before us in terms of the three options

00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:43.096
tonight that might be most useful in

00:30:43.120 --> 00:30:44.936
terms of our time. Rod

00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:46.775
mayor, another petition supporting safer

00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:49.799
streets tabled last week with 2,357

00:30:50.399 --> 00:30:52.856
signatures supporting the Hardy motion

00:30:52.880 --> 00:30:54.696
with variance of that motion proposed

00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:57.576
here tonight. ,

00:30:57.600 --> 00:30:59.336
interestingly, some 16% of the

00:30:59.360 --> 00:31:01.416
signatures were from the Port Melbourne

00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:03.895
area, areas that form part of yours and

00:31:03.919 --> 00:31:06.919
councelor Consol's wards. Mayor, I also

00:31:07.200 --> 00:31:08.696
note that what I loosely call the three

00:31:08.720 --> 00:31:11.720
sensibly center non-aligned candidates,

00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:15.096
Consolo, Tommen, and yourself, all

00:31:15.120 --> 00:31:17.015
elected on part through a safer streets

00:31:17.039 --> 00:31:19.655
advocacy. It's your campaign broches,

00:31:19.679 --> 00:31:21.895
and the central delivery to that is

00:31:21.919 --> 00:31:24.919
option B with amendments if possible.

00:31:25.039 --> 00:31:26.535
This has never been about finding

00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:28.135
homeless people. It's about preventing

00:31:28.159 --> 00:31:30.296
crime and antisocial behavior that coMears

00:31:30.320 --> 00:31:32.296
with some of these encampments. Putting

00:31:32.320 --> 00:31:34.216
the spotlight on street crime, drug

00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:36.216
injecting, drug dealing, and aggressive

00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.535
behaviors. Honoring the fundamental duty

00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:40.535
of the council to protect residents and

00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:42.775
businesses from those risks. A motion

00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:44.456
that is supported by both the police and

00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:46.456
appropriate protocols. This is a

00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:48.296
sensible complimentary measure to the

00:31:48.320 --> 00:31:50.696
round table. Finally, mayor be weary of

00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:53.015
those that support option C. They

00:31:53.039 --> 00:31:54.616
narcissistically believe that they have

00:31:54.640 --> 00:31:57.255
a monopoly on virtue and yes it is a

00:31:57.279 --> 00:31:59.096
form of virtue. It's called virtue

00:31:59.120 --> 00:32:00.535
signaling. Thank you mayor.

00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:03.336
Thank you Rodney.

00:32:03.360 --> 00:32:05.895
 next speaker is Lara Brown who's

00:32:05.919 --> 00:32:07.495
joining us online. If you could please

00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:09.416
start with your name and suburb. Lara

00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:11.736
once you're online and then you'll have

00:32:11.760 --> 00:32:14.760
two minutes.

00:32:17.919 --> 00:32:20.919
Sure. Hi, this is Lara Brown and I'm in

00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.176
St. Kota East.

00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:28.135
Um, I'm thank thanks for giving me the

00:32:28.159 --> 00:32:31.159
opportunity to chat with everyone.

00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:33.576
I've been following this issue and it

00:32:33.600 --> 00:32:35.416
seems to me that council is trying to

00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.736
appease residents who have complained

00:32:37.760 --> 00:32:40.760
about some of the issues with unhoused

00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:42.936
people in their neighborhood. And I can

00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:44.296
understand how frustrating and

00:32:44.320 --> 00:32:46.696
frightening it can be for residents and

00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:49.015
I can understand the pressure  put on

00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:51.255
council and how that you feel compelled

00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:54.279
to address their concerns.

00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:56.856
I agree with Rocco a comment that he

00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:58.296
made that homeless people need more

00:32:58.320 --> 00:33:00.775
support and more services. However, I

00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:02.856
don't believe the police are the people

00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:05.880
to deliver that. So for that reason um I

00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:08.296
don't believe a change is required to

00:33:08.320 --> 00:33:10.775
the local laws. I believe that that

00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:12.775
would only add to the legal burden or

00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:14.535
potentially add to the legal burden of

00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:16.936
unhoused residents and that's the last

00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:19.960
thing that they need. Last week I had

00:33:21.120 --> 00:33:23.015
the opportunity to chat with the urban

00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:25.895
planner from Mary Beck. He mentioned we

00:33:25.919 --> 00:33:27.255
were discussing this issue in

00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:30.056
particular. He mentioned that St. Kilda

00:33:30.080 --> 00:33:32.135
had always sort of been ahead of things

00:33:32.159 --> 00:33:35.159
and knew how to handle this is issue

00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.576
really well and that they were a council

00:33:37.600 --> 00:33:40.600
that others looked to to follow. And I

00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:44.440
would implore the council to please use

00:33:44.559 --> 00:33:47.255
your imagination. Please put compassion

00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:50.056
at the center of what you're doing and

00:33:50.080 --> 00:33:52.456
to zoom out from the situation and look

00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:54.856
at the trend. And the trend has been to

00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:56.535
criminalize homelessness. And I'm

00:33:56.559 --> 00:33:58.535
talking zooming way out. We see it in

00:33:58.559 --> 00:34:00.616
the states sweeping people up in

00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:03.416
encampments and an increase in

00:34:03.440 --> 00:34:05.816
surveillance and we don't want to go

00:34:05.840 --> 00:34:08.135
down that route. I don't think we'd be

00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:10.696
proud of it. I think it sets the stage

00:34:10.720 --> 00:34:12.936
for horrible conditions and more

00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:14.855
imprisonment of our most vulnerable

00:34:14.879 --> 00:34:16.696
people. I'll say again, the people

00:34:16.720 --> 00:34:18.456
who've harassed me and I'm afraid of on

00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:20.055
the street are housed people in the

00:34:20.079 --> 00:34:21.976
neighborhood, not the unhoused. Thank

00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:23.095
you, council.

00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:26.119
Thank you. , next speaker is Cla Mir.

00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:28.855
After that it will be Mel Dy online. So

00:34:28.879 --> 00:34:31.016
our next  inerson speaker will be V

00:34:31.040 --> 00:34:32.776
every if you could please make your way

00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:35.800
down to the front seat too. Claire 

00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:39.095
yeah Cla Mir is next. Yes, if you could

00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:40.776
please start with your name suburb in 2

00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:41.575
minutes.

00:34:41.599 --> 00:34:43.895
Thank you. Cla Mir St Kilda. Our

00:34:43.919 --> 00:34:45.895
community is asking this council to take

00:34:45.919 --> 00:34:47.976
ownership and stop enabling the behavior

00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:50.855
that is making our streets less safe.

00:34:50.879 --> 00:34:52.296
While the reviews, discussions,

00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.375
consultations can continue, residents

00:34:54.399 --> 00:34:56.776
are left leaving living with escalating

00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:58.616
intimidation, damaged, fear, and a

00:34:58.640 --> 00:35:00.856
growing lack of trust in council. I

00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:02.376
emphasize with and fully support those

00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:04.296
in genuine need, but housing, mental

00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:05.656
health, addiction support, criminal

00:35:05.680 --> 00:35:07.416
justice responses are a state

00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:09.575
responsibility. Council's role is to

00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:12.136
advocate upwards, yet instead keep

00:35:12.160 --> 00:35:13.496
stepping into a space enabling

00:35:13.520 --> 00:35:15.256
street-based issues it simply cannot

00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:17.656
afford to manage under current laws.

00:35:17.680 --> 00:35:19.416
Grieve Street is a clear example of

00:35:19.440 --> 00:35:21.335
chaos. A long-term camp where residents

00:35:21.359 --> 00:35:23.016
have been verbally abused, threatened,

00:35:23.040 --> 00:35:25.095
and in my case last week, an object

00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:27.176
thrown at my car whilst driving.

00:35:27.200 --> 00:35:28.856
Allowing camping is not compassion,

00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:30.216
certainly not for the residents and

00:35:30.240 --> 00:35:32.296
businesses dealing with the fallout. It

00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:34.376
is a disorder created by a refusal to

00:35:34.400 --> 00:35:36.376
enforce basic boundaries for the

00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:38.936
well-being of everyone, including those

00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:41.016
who are vulnerable. It seems council are

00:35:41.040 --> 00:35:42.376
questioning the need for change despite

00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:44.696
Inspector Colo, a senior police officer

00:35:44.720 --> 00:35:46.296
formally recommending it through the

00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:48.376
round table. If police who deal with the

00:35:48.400 --> 00:35:51.176
consequences daily, , advocating

00:35:51.200 --> 00:35:53.416
change is required, it's time to listen.

00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:55.016
Words alone won't support this

00:35:55.040 --> 00:35:57.335
community. It must be backed by concrete

00:35:57.359 --> 00:36:00.359
action. Yet, instead of action, I've

00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:02.456
recently reviewed the the safety plan,

00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:03.815
and I've got to be honest, it has more

00:36:03.839 --> 00:36:06.216
holes in the Hume Highway. I provided a

00:36:06.240 --> 00:36:07.736
written review outlining the risks and

00:36:07.760 --> 00:36:09.176
gaps that I'm concerned about and

00:36:09.200 --> 00:36:11.416
attended the session mid- November. I

00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:13.416
wasn't the only resident concerned. We

00:36:13.440 --> 00:36:15.496
were a majority. We need more than a

00:36:15.520 --> 00:36:17.016
plan on paper. We need a plan that

00:36:17.040 --> 00:36:18.856
works. Councilors, many of you are

00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:20.456
elected on commitments to community

00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:22.456
safety. These commitments don't expire

00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:24.776
after election day. Roundts and endless

00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:27.256
conver consultation have made zero

00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:29.575
positive difference to re residents and

00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:31.416
feels you're turning a deaf ear to the

00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:33.976
very people who voted you in. Tonight is

00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:36.136
simple. Please support the motion. Stand

00:36:36.160 --> 00:36:37.976
with 77 other councils that don't have

00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:39.896
an exemption and for good reason.

00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:41.896
Allowing our footpath park shop fronts

00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:42.616
to become

00:36:42.640 --> 00:36:45.496
Thank you. We're atto campsites. Thank

00:36:45.520 --> 00:36:45.815
you.

00:36:45.839 --> 00:36:48.376
Thank you.

00:36:48.400 --> 00:36:51.400
 we're moving online to Melai.

00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:57.575
 good evening. Thank you mayor and

00:36:57.599 --> 00:36:59.095
councilors.

00:36:59.119 --> 00:37:00.536
First I want to acknowledge the

00:37:00.560 --> 00:37:02.616
importance of international human rights

00:37:02.640 --> 00:37:05.176
day. These days remind us of our

00:37:05.200 --> 00:37:07.575
responsibility to uphold and protect the

00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:09.575
rights and dignity of every person in

00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:12.599
our community and decisions council

00:37:12.800 --> 00:37:15.095
makes should reflect those values.

00:37:15.119 --> 00:37:17.016
Sorry, coming back to who I am. I'm Mel

00:37:17.040 --> 00:37:19.176
Dy. I'm here tonight representing

00:37:19.200 --> 00:37:20.296
Southside Justice

00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:21.736
and your suburb, please.

00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:22.616
St. Hilda.

00:37:22.640 --> 00:37:23.176
Thank you.

00:37:23.200 --> 00:37:26.136
Sorry about that. Mayor. Um, turning to

00:37:26.160 --> 00:37:29.095
the proposed changes, options A and B

00:37:29.119 --> 00:37:31.575
essentially reinforce powers that

00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.599
already exist in current local laws. So,

00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:38.599
my question to you all is who are these

00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:42.616
changes really for?

00:37:42.640 --> 00:37:45.416
If the intent is to improve outcoMears for

00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:48.440
the entire community, then we need to be

00:37:48.480 --> 00:37:50.936
clear on how these proposed local law

00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:53.575
changes achieve that.

00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:55.656
Local law changes are costly and

00:37:55.680 --> 00:37:58.136
timeconuming and they require further

00:37:58.160 --> 00:38:00.536
public consultation. But what

00:38:00.560 --> 00:38:02.936
consultation but consultation only

00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:05.575
matters is if it is influenced by

00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:08.599
decisions. What percentage of community

00:38:08.640 --> 00:38:11.496
feed feedback will council act on? We

00:38:11.520 --> 00:38:13.416
know from recent experience that even

00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:16.440
55% support for no change to local laws

00:38:16.640 --> 00:38:19.640
was not enough to influence council.

00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:23.256
Finally, Southside Justice along with

00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:25.656
many many other local community service

00:38:25.680 --> 00:38:27.896
providers remain committed to working

00:38:27.920 --> 00:38:30.920
with council and the community and most

00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:33.960
importantly the people directed directly

00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:37.256
affected by any decision made tonight.

00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:38.216
Thank you.

00:38:38.240 --> 00:38:41.240
Thank you, Mel. Over

00:38:43.280 --> 00:38:45.575
to Brad Ever. If you could please start

00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:46.936
with your name and suburb, then you'll

00:38:46.960 --> 00:38:49.896
have two minutes. Um, I'm Brad and I'm

00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:51.575
from St. Kilda. Thank you, councilors,

00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:54.536
mayor and officers of Port Port Phillip

00:38:54.560 --> 00:38:56.055
City Council. I would like to speak to

00:38:56.079 --> 00:38:58.616
the decision being made on 10.2 and also

00:38:58.640 --> 00:39:01.256
would welcome option B. In making this

00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:02.776
motion, I reflect on the experience

00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:04.776
living in St Kilda on Fitzroy Street for

00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.575
the past 13 years and have seen the

00:39:07.599 --> 00:39:09.656
street degrade steadily over those years

00:39:09.680 --> 00:39:11.976
in the way of shop fronts disappearing,

00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:14.216
night life closing down, which I believe

00:39:14.240 --> 00:39:16.536
that lack of activity has created a

00:39:16.560 --> 00:39:18.536
vacuum that has now been replaced by the

00:39:18.560 --> 00:39:21.095
unsavory characters. In those years,

00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:22.856
I've been abused, shattered at,

00:39:22.880 --> 00:39:24.616
attacked, and felt unsafe numerous

00:39:24.640 --> 00:39:26.616
tiMears. My car has been broken into,

00:39:26.640 --> 00:39:29.095
damaged multiple tiMears. the most recent

00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:30.936
three three weeks ago where I had a

00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:33.736
broken window which costs $700 to repair

00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:35.736
which in a cost of living crisis and not

00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:38.216
not an expense that I want to wear. The

00:39:38.240 --> 00:39:40.536
unsavory gatherings of individuals at

00:39:40.560 --> 00:39:42.856
this 7-Eleven on a daily basis dealing

00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:45.095
drugs hassling passes by are causing

00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:47.656
untold damage and reputation to Fitzroy

00:39:47.680 --> 00:39:50.296
Street. This local law must be changed

00:39:50.320 --> 00:39:52.055
to remove the option for this continuous

00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.776
encampment for these individuals. I

00:39:54.800 --> 00:39:56.856
support a future whereby housing is not

00:39:56.880 --> 00:39:58.856
an investment opportunity but a home for

00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.176
everyone and is accessible to all, not

00:40:01.200 --> 00:40:03.256
just those who need it, but as a basic

00:40:03.280 --> 00:40:04.856
human right for all. Thank you for your

00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:05.496
time.

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Thank you. , next speaker is virtual.

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It's Ben Jones. And while Ben is

00:40:11.440 --> 00:40:14.440
speaking, if Elizabeth Martino could

00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:17.800
Ben's offline, okay. , Ben is an

00:40:18.160 --> 00:40:19.815
apology. So, our next speaker is

00:40:19.839 --> 00:40:21.736
Elizabeth Martino. if you could please

00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:23.095
come on down and start with your name

00:40:23.119 --> 00:40:26.119
and suburb and then  while Elizabeth

00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:29.496
is speaking if Brett Davidson could

00:40:29.520 --> 00:40:30.936
please make your way to your front to

00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:33.016
the front seat too.

00:40:33.040 --> 00:40:35.016
Oh, good evening Liz Martin of St.

00:40:35.040 --> 00:40:38.040
Kilda. I I wholeheartedly support a

00:40:38.240 --> 00:40:41.176
proposed local law change in line with

00:40:41.200 --> 00:40:43.976
councelor Hardy's motion in February.

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It's long overdue, but I must also be

00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:49.176
honest. The fact that the situation was

00:40:49.200 --> 00:40:51.575
allowed to escalate to this level for

00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:54.599
this long has had a devastating impact

00:40:54.640 --> 00:40:57.335
on me and my neighbors. Council's

00:40:57.359 --> 00:40:59.736
inaction didn't just failed to prevent

00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:02.760
harm. It enabled it. It enabled it. The

00:41:03.200 --> 00:41:05.416
encampment outside my home turned our

00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.440
street into a scenario of degradation.

00:41:08.640 --> 00:41:11.575
What began as few people seeking shelter

00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:14.599
quickly deteriorated into human waste.

00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:17.256
discarded syringes, smashed bottles,

00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:19.575
broken bicycles, and overflowing

00:41:19.599 --> 00:41:22.536
rubbish. My property was interfered with

00:41:22.560 --> 00:41:25.256
repeatedly. My fence jumped, tap used

00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:26.856
without permission. Pickicket

00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:29.656
vandalized, garden trampled, tents

00:41:29.680 --> 00:41:32.376
became entrenched, creating both an

00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:35.400
eyesaw and health risk. The stench of

00:41:35.520 --> 00:41:38.520
filth and the constant screaming and

00:41:38.560 --> 00:41:40.776
threats made it impossible to feel safe

00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:43.016
in my home. Beyond the damage, the

00:41:43.040 --> 00:41:45.416
environment fostered fear. I witnessed

00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:48.136
drug deals in broad daylight. My fence

00:41:48.160 --> 00:41:50.536
was graffitied. Police repeatedly

00:41:50.560 --> 00:41:52.936
refused to attend. And when I sought

00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:55.416
support from council, I was told that

00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:58.136
removing sleep, rough sleepers, or

00:41:58.160 --> 00:42:00.696
addressing escalated risks was not in

00:42:00.720 --> 00:42:03.335
council pos policy. Even more

00:42:03.359 --> 00:42:06.055
concerning, at no point did council or

00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:08.616
police offer meaningful support to the

00:42:08.640 --> 00:42:11.095
individuals living there. There was no

00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:13.976
proactive outreach, no referral to

00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:17.000
services, no attempt to break the cycle.

00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:19.896
Neglect is not compassion, it's harm.

00:42:19.920 --> 00:42:22.920
Whether by design or consequence, Port

00:42:23.040 --> 00:42:25.095
Phillip has become a magnet for rough

00:42:25.119 --> 00:42:27.575
sleepers because surrounding sub

00:42:27.599 --> 00:42:30.599
councils enforce boundaries, we do not.

00:42:30.880 --> 00:42:33.335
Residents of Sunkilda are bearing a

00:42:33.359 --> 00:42:35.575
burden of this imbalance.

00:42:35.599 --> 00:42:37.016
Thank you, Elizabeth. We're out time.

00:42:37.040 --> 00:42:39.016
I haven't finished. That's We've got a

00:42:39.040 --> 00:42:40.536
maximum of two minutes. I'm sorry.

00:42:40.560 --> 00:42:41.656
A little bit more, please.

00:42:41.680 --> 00:42:44.136
No. , we've got so many speakers.

00:42:44.160 --> 00:42:46.216
No, sorry. I need to be fair to

00:42:46.240 --> 00:42:49.016
everyone.

00:42:49.040 --> 00:42:51.335
, we're moving online to Elizabeth

00:42:51.359 --> 00:42:53.815
Rajman and, , if you could please

00:42:53.839 --> 00:42:56.839
start with your name and suburb.

00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.815
Hello, Charlotte Fragman. I own two

00:43:01.839 --> 00:43:04.536
businesses in Fitzroy Streets in Kilda,

00:43:04.560 --> 00:43:07.176
two of the only remaining ones. and

00:43:07.200 --> 00:43:09.496
we've been trading for 35 continuous

00:43:09.520 --> 00:43:12.520
years. The last 18 months have been our

00:43:13.040 --> 00:43:15.016
worst

00:43:15.040 --> 00:43:18.040
um time in the 35 years including COVID.

00:43:19.839 --> 00:43:22.376
Um I cannot walk between my two

00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:25.400
businesses 77 to 41 without getting

00:43:27.520 --> 00:43:30.520
harassed, attacked, spad at threatened

00:43:31.839 --> 00:43:34.839
etc. I also employ young women and know

00:43:36.960 --> 00:43:39.896
that there are are in danger every day.

00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:42.696
It is almost impossible to recruit new

00:43:42.720 --> 00:43:45.720
staff. But I just want to talk about the

00:43:46.640 --> 00:43:49.256
 local laws review that happens every

00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:52.280
10 years. My submission basically said

00:43:52.720 --> 00:43:54.776
we have 20.58

00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:56.776
square kilometers in the City of Port

00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:59.800
Phillip. If we just made a rule that

00:44:00.240 --> 00:44:02.216
there shall be no seating, sleeping,

00:44:02.240 --> 00:44:05.240
camping objects within 15 m of an

00:44:06.640 --> 00:44:08.136
occupied

00:44:08.160 --> 00:44:11.160
council property, resident or business.

00:44:11.200 --> 00:44:13.736
It would have been fair to everyone.

00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.976
There is room. I don't want to impinge

00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:19.000
on anyone else's rights, but I want the

00:44:19.040 --> 00:44:22.040
right to run my business and to make it

00:44:22.560 --> 00:44:25.335
thrive. I'm the one that pays my council

00:44:25.359 --> 00:44:28.359
rates, both residential and commercial,

00:44:30.079 --> 00:44:33.079
and I have rights, too.

00:44:34.640 --> 00:44:37.256
Thank you, Charlotte. On to Brett

00:44:37.280 --> 00:44:38.856
Davidson. And then our next speaker will

00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:40.776
be Rashika Jane. So, if you could please

00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:42.856
make your way to the front chair. 

00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:44.696
over to Brett Davidson. Please start

00:44:44.720 --> 00:44:45.656
with your name and suburb and then

00:44:45.680 --> 00:44:46.696
you'll have two minutes.

00:44:46.720 --> 00:44:48.216
Good evening, counselors, and thank you

00:44:48.240 --> 00:44:50.456
for the opportunity to speak. My name is

00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:52.136
Brett Davidson and I live on Grey

00:44:52.160 --> 00:44:54.456
Street, St Kilda. I'm speaking tonight

00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:56.936
on behalf of me, many residents who are

00:44:56.960 --> 00:44:59.335
deeply concerned about safety and

00:44:59.359 --> 00:45:02.136
amenities in our community. For far too

00:45:02.160 --> 00:45:04.295
long, we've witnessed behaviors on our

00:45:04.319 --> 00:45:07.016
streets that include intimidation,

00:45:07.040 --> 00:45:09.496
verbal abuse, physical threats and

00:45:09.520 --> 00:45:12.376
violence, drug use in public spaces, and

00:45:12.400 --> 00:45:14.936
property damage. These are not isolated

00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:17.016
incidents. They're ongoing and they're

00:45:17.040 --> 00:45:18.856
affecting people's well-being every

00:45:18.880 --> 00:45:21.575
single day. It is a human right for

00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:24.536
everyone, including residents, visitors,

00:45:24.560 --> 00:45:27.560
and retail or hospitality workers, to be

00:45:27.680 --> 00:45:30.456
safe and not forced to live or work in

00:45:30.480 --> 00:45:33.335
an unsafe, antisocial environment.

00:45:33.359 --> 00:45:35.815
Residents deserve to walk around through

00:45:35.839 --> 00:45:38.839
the neighborhood without fear. Families

00:45:39.200 --> 00:45:41.095
deserve to take their children to the

00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:43.095
parks and beaches without worrying about

00:45:43.119 --> 00:45:45.976
aggressive behavior or illegal activity.

00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:47.736
The issue before you tonight is not

00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:50.456
about targeting vulnerable people. It is

00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:52.616
about stopping harmful behavior that's

00:45:52.640 --> 00:45:55.176
putting others at risk. Victoria Police

00:45:55.200 --> 00:45:57.176
have already advised that unless local

00:45:57.200 --> 00:45:59.976
laws are changed, street encampments and

00:46:00.000 --> 00:46:02.696
associate antisocial behaviors will

00:46:02.720 --> 00:46:05.496
continue to increase. This is backed by

00:46:05.520 --> 00:46:07.176
the community.

00:46:07.200 --> 00:46:09.656
2,357

00:46:09.680 --> 00:46:12.216
residents of Port Phillip signed my

00:46:12.240 --> 00:46:15.240
safer safer streets petition calling for

00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:18.599
action and removal of camping exe um

00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:21.256
exemptions. Earlier this year, more than

00:46:21.280 --> 00:46:23.736
300 people marched through the Fitzroy

00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:25.976
streets and Aklland streets because they

00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:27.656
feel unsafe.

00:46:27.680 --> 00:46:30.295
This is not a small minority. This is a

00:46:30.319 --> 00:46:31.896
clear and urgent Mearssage from the

00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:34.920
community. We have protocols available.

00:46:35.359 --> 00:46:37.256
Police and local law officers are

00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.575
prepared to act, but without clear local

00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:41.416
law, they cannot remove equipment that

00:46:41.440 --> 00:46:44.216
facilitates ongoing antisocial behavior.

00:46:44.240 --> 00:46:46.216
Option B before you tonight provides a

00:46:46.240 --> 00:46:49.176
pathway to improve safety and humanity.

00:46:49.200 --> 00:46:50.936
I urge councilors to support a real

00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.496
change tonight. We're not asking for

00:46:53.520 --> 00:46:54.536
asking for protection.

00:46:54.560 --> 00:46:56.295
Thanks, Brett.

00:46:56.319 --> 00:46:58.055
 Rashika Jane, if you could please

00:46:58.079 --> 00:46:59.416
start with your name, suburb, and then

00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:01.896
two minutes. And after Rashika will be

00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:03.896
 Dennis Vikov. If you could please

00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:05.736
make your way to the front. Thanks.

00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:07.095
Good evening counselors. My name is

00:47:07.119 --> 00:47:10.119
Rishika Jen. I'm living in St. Kilda. 

00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:13.335
I'm a resident of Jackson Street, St

00:47:13.359 --> 00:47:16.136
Kilda. And  as mentioned by one of the

00:47:16.160 --> 00:47:18.055
speakers in the start. I live right next

00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:20.456
to the car park that was mentioned. I'm

00:47:20.480 --> 00:47:22.456
speaking today on behalf of myself and

00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:24.216
several residents from our building and

00:47:24.240 --> 00:47:26.136
surrounding area. Over the past few

00:47:26.160 --> 00:47:27.815
months, we have been facing a serious

00:47:27.839 --> 00:47:30.536
and escalating issue involving homeless

00:47:30.560 --> 00:47:32.616
individuals and drug users camping

00:47:32.640 --> 00:47:35.176
outside the 7-Eleven near near our

00:47:35.200 --> 00:47:37.416
residents and directly beneath our

00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.335
building. While we understand that

00:47:39.359 --> 00:47:41.736
homelessness is a complex social issue

00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:43.736
that requires compassion, the current

00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:45.736
situation has now become a matter of

00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:48.456
public safety and property damage. I

00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:50.216
live on the first floor of my building.

00:47:50.240 --> 00:47:52.856
On two separate occasions, stones have

00:47:52.880 --> 00:47:55.880
been thrown at my balcony which would

00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:58.920
have gone through my door and my car has

00:47:59.680 --> 00:48:02.536
been deliberately scratched  at two

00:48:02.560 --> 00:48:04.456
different tiMears as well. These are not

00:48:04.480 --> 00:48:06.536
minor disturbances. These are criminal

00:48:06.560 --> 00:48:09.335
acts. Former police complaints have been

00:48:09.359 --> 00:48:12.136
lodged with Senkilda police and I have

00:48:12.160 --> 00:48:15.160
submitted evidence, video evidence 

00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:17.575
with my complaint. Beyond the damage,

00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:19.496
residents are dealing with regular d

00:48:19.520 --> 00:48:21.976
drug use in public view, aggressive and

00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.055
predict unpredictable behavior,

00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:26.376
intimidation while entering or exiting

00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:29.400
our hoMears, noise, litter, and unsafe

00:48:29.440 --> 00:48:31.496
conditions late in the night. Many

00:48:31.520 --> 00:48:33.335
residents, especially women and elderly

00:48:33.359 --> 00:48:35.416
people now feeling genuinely unsafe in

00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:37.575
our neighborhood. This is not the stand

00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:39.335
and this is not the standard of safety

00:48:39.359 --> 00:48:41.736
Senkilda residents should be expected to

00:48:41.760 --> 00:48:43.976
tolerate. We urge the council to treat

00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:46.856
this with  with  as an urgent safety

00:48:46.880 --> 00:48:49.335
matter, not a long-term discussion.

00:48:49.359 --> 00:48:51.016
Prevention now is better than

00:48:51.040 --> 00:48:53.256
irreversible harm later. Thank you for

00:48:53.280 --> 00:48:54.696
your time and consideration, council.

00:48:54.720 --> 00:48:57.416
Thank you, Rashika.  Dennis Vikovi,

00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.440
sorry, ViscoBi, you're our next speaker.

00:49:08.319 --> 00:49:10.535
We can come back. Rory Lar Ro, you're

00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:13.559
our next speaker.

00:49:15.359 --> 00:49:17.016
And  Jeffrey, you'll be the speaker

00:49:17.040 --> 00:49:18.295
after. So if you could please make your

00:49:18.319 --> 00:49:21.256
way to the front.  Rory and start with

00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:22.696
name suburb and then

00:49:22.720 --> 00:49:25.335
Hi, I'm Rory from St. Kilda. Um I'm here

00:49:25.359 --> 00:49:27.335
today as a local, as someone who's

00:49:27.359 --> 00:49:29.176
experienced homelessness myself, but not

00:49:29.200 --> 00:49:32.200
rough sleeping. And as somebody who is a

00:49:32.240 --> 00:49:33.736
peer support worker for many of the

00:49:33.760 --> 00:49:35.416
unhoused residents, yes, they are

00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:37.575
residents of your community, people in

00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:40.599
St. Kilda. Um, I've spoken to many

00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:42.856
unhoused peoples, particularly over the

00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:44.456
weekend, gathering statements that I've

00:49:44.480 --> 00:49:46.936
sent to yourselves over email. I've

00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:48.295
heard people speaking today about

00:49:48.319 --> 00:49:50.295
women's safety. And I want people to

00:49:50.319 --> 00:49:51.575
realize there's a difference between

00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:54.055
perceived safety, feeling uncomfortable

00:49:54.079 --> 00:49:56.456
seeing poor people living in public, and

00:49:56.480 --> 00:49:58.696
actual safety. Some of the differences

00:49:58.720 --> 00:50:01.095
of what residents who are housed face,

00:50:01.119 --> 00:50:02.936
except for residents who are not housed

00:50:02.960 --> 00:50:05.960
face, is people are being set al light,

00:50:06.319 --> 00:50:08.055
people are being assaulted, people are

00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:10.776
being raped, people are being robbed.

00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:12.696
And I've heard loud and clear from

00:50:12.720 --> 00:50:14.936
unhoused women that the pro proposed

00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:17.335
local law change before you today not

00:50:17.359 --> 00:50:19.896
only stigmatizes people experiencing

00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:21.815
homelessness, but attacks the very

00:50:21.839 --> 00:50:24.535
pillars of their safety, shelter and

00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:27.016
survival on these streets. The proposal

00:50:27.040 --> 00:50:29.016
before you allows the council to move

00:50:29.040 --> 00:50:31.095
along people staying together,

00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:32.936
attempting to disband the small

00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:34.776
communities that allow for looking out

00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:36.376
for each other, watching each other's

00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:38.776
backs is vital for safety, especially

00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:40.616
for women sleeping on the street.

00:50:40.640 --> 00:50:42.456
Confiscating belongings is cruel and

00:50:42.480 --> 00:50:45.480
violates people's rights to shelter. And

00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:47.095
while the proposal suggests this would

00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:49.496
be a last resort, I am hearing the peers

00:50:49.520 --> 00:50:51.976
I speak to are experiencing this already

00:50:52.000 --> 00:50:54.456
daily from local law officers having

00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:56.055
their clothes, their blankets, their

00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:58.295
shelters taken from them. There is no

00:50:58.319 --> 00:51:00.136
need for extra powers. This is happening

00:51:00.160 --> 00:51:02.295
right now. And I know because I'm giving

00:51:02.319 --> 00:51:03.736
people blankets and they're needing them

00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:05.896
the next week. People will meet their

00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:07.656
needs any way that they can. And when

00:51:07.680 --> 00:51:09.896
our frontline support services are un

00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:12.216
inadequately funded, our public housing

00:51:12.240 --> 00:51:14.136
is crumbling and slashed, and there's a

00:51:14.160 --> 00:51:16.696
brutal housing crisis, rough sleeping is

00:51:16.720 --> 00:51:18.535
a visible symptom, but not the issue at

00:51:18.559 --> 00:51:21.256
hand. I urge you to please vote no and

00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:23.256
stand strong in your legacy of a housing

00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:25.095
first, human rights approach to

00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:26.616
homelessness. Thank you.

00:51:26.640 --> 00:51:29.640
Perfect timing, Jeffrey Conahan. Um,

00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:33.416
once you come forward and Jessica

00:51:33.440 --> 00:51:36.440
Richtor is going to be our next speaker.

00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:39.016
 Jeffrey, start with your name and

00:51:39.040 --> 00:51:40.696
suburb and then you have two minutes.

00:51:40.720 --> 00:51:43.575
Jeffrey Edwards and Kilda East  mayor

00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:45.896
and counselors. Um as did many others

00:51:45.920 --> 00:51:48.136
here tonight, I spoke at your February

00:51:48.160 --> 00:51:50.776
meeting in support of councelor Hardy's

00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:53.496
original motion proposing the removal of

00:51:53.520 --> 00:51:56.520
exemptions in local camping laws. I drew

00:51:56.960 --> 00:51:59.960
attention at the time specifically to u

00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:03.400
endemic antisocial behavior associated

00:52:03.839 --> 00:52:05.896
with encampments in the native

00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:08.616
vegetation and the sand dunes behind

00:52:08.640 --> 00:52:11.095
Wests and Kilda Beach  describing them

00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:13.656
as tip-like and dangerous 

00:52:13.680 --> 00:52:16.456
settlements. Now, increasingly, on

00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:19.480
occasion, that description also fits

00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.599
areas in much closer proximity to this

00:52:23.359 --> 00:52:25.256
very building, and I refer to, of

00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:27.656
course, behind the library, Greavves

00:52:27.680 --> 00:52:30.680
Street, , in and around the Carile

00:52:30.720 --> 00:52:33.016
Street shops. Now, tonight, I'd have

00:52:33.040 --> 00:52:36.040
much preferred to speak again to, ,

00:52:36.240 --> 00:52:39.095
Councelor Hardy's original motion, but

00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:41.416
disappointingly, we have instead ,

00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:44.440
options A through C. Now option A,

00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:47.559
finicky, seriously constrained and 

00:52:49.200 --> 00:52:52.200
lacking clout. Um unlikely to do

00:52:52.640 --> 00:52:54.936
anything very much  to address the

00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:57.960
problem. Option C intentionally does

00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:00.696
nothing whatsoever to address the

00:53:00.720 --> 00:53:03.720
problem. So I urge councilors to fall in

00:53:03.839 --> 00:53:06.839
behind option B as a sole pathway to

00:53:08.240 --> 00:53:10.055
dealing with this egregious and

00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:13.079
continuing matter. Thank you. Thank you.

00:53:13.280 --> 00:53:16.280
Our next speaker is Jessica Richtor.

00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:17.815
Um,

00:53:17.839 --> 00:53:20.216
may just a point of clarification that's

00:53:20.240 --> 00:53:21.575
Jeffrey Edwards.

00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:23.416
Yeah, I'll get back to Jeffrey Conahan.

00:53:23.440 --> 00:53:25.176
I'm Jeffrey, but it's up there.

00:53:25.200 --> 00:53:25.656
Yep.

00:53:25.680 --> 00:53:26.535
Yeah, as long as

00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:28.376
So, we'll fix that and then I'll come to

00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:31.400
you, Jeffrey.

00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:36.055
Hello. Thanks for your time. I'm Jessica

00:53:36.079 --> 00:53:38.376
Richter, St Kilder. I live and work in

00:53:38.400 --> 00:53:40.456
St Kilda. I'm asking our counselors

00:53:40.480 --> 00:53:42.616
tonight to vote against changing local

00:53:42.640 --> 00:53:45.335
laws because I believe our current laws

00:53:45.359 --> 00:53:47.496
already provide authorized officers with

00:53:47.520 --> 00:53:50.376
significant and adequate powers. If

00:53:50.400 --> 00:53:52.456
anything, the way local law powers are

00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:54.055
being used to move on people who are

00:53:54.079 --> 00:53:56.295
sleeping rough across this state

00:53:56.319 --> 00:53:58.776
requires increased scrutiny across the

00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:01.095
board. Our local laws already prohibit a

00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:02.776
broad range of behavior and offer a

00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:05.016
range of enforcement mechanisms. The

00:54:05.040 --> 00:54:07.176
current proposals for local law change

00:54:07.200 --> 00:54:09.815
single out and treat differently people

00:54:09.839 --> 00:54:11.656
experiencing homelessness who are forced

00:54:11.680 --> 00:54:14.456
to live in public space. Any person can

00:54:14.480 --> 00:54:16.216
engage in behavior that makes others

00:54:16.240 --> 00:54:18.535
feel unsafe or that impacts others

00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:21.496
enjoyment of public space. Introducing

00:54:21.520 --> 00:54:23.976
specific local laws to target people in

00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:25.815
so-called encampments is not only

00:54:25.839 --> 00:54:28.535
unnecessary, it's stigmatizing and will

00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:30.216
actively make people experiencing

00:54:30.240 --> 00:54:32.055
homeless even less safe than they

00:54:32.079 --> 00:54:34.456
already are. The key enforcement

00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:36.616
mechanism in these local law proposals

00:54:36.640 --> 00:54:38.216
is the empoundment of people's

00:54:38.240 --> 00:54:40.055
belongings. That means swags, sleeping

00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:42.535
bags, blankets. This will directly and

00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:44.456
immediately harm people's physical

00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:47.256
welfare causing net harm to community

00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:50.055
safety. That is if we genuinely treat

00:54:50.079 --> 00:54:51.896
all people as members of our community

00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:54.696
whose safety matters equally. The

00:54:54.720 --> 00:54:56.376
proposals state that enforcement is

00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:58.295
considered a last resort after people

00:54:58.319 --> 00:55:00.616
supposedly refuse assistance.

00:55:00.640 --> 00:55:02.696
Alarmingly, there is reference in

00:55:02.720 --> 00:55:04.856
tonight's agenda papers to police being

00:55:04.880 --> 00:55:07.815
needed to restrain people while their

00:55:07.839 --> 00:55:10.216
encampments are being dismantled. But

00:55:10.240 --> 00:55:12.535
why is this enforcement mechanism needed

00:55:12.559 --> 00:55:15.416
at all? What will it achieve? What does

00:55:15.440 --> 00:55:17.896
why should assistance need to be offered

00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:20.055
to people doing it tough through the

00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:22.616
mechanism of enforcement at all?

00:55:22.640 --> 00:55:24.616
Focusing on enforcement and targeting

00:55:24.640 --> 00:55:27.095
individuals presents a mirage of taking

00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:29.976
concrete action to address complex

00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:32.295
social issues. It's a distraction from

00:55:32.319 --> 00:55:34.456
our most pressing real system failures

00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:36.295
that need to be addressed by all levels

00:55:36.319 --> 00:55:38.456
of government cooperatively. There's

00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:40.216
nothing more pressing than our housing

00:55:40.240 --> 00:55:42.696
crisis, which is what's making it so

00:55:42.720 --> 00:55:44.616
challenging for community services to

00:55:44.640 --> 00:55:46.376
effectively assist people sleeping

00:55:46.400 --> 00:55:47.976
rough. We need to remember this.

00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:49.335
Jessica, we are at time.

00:55:49.359 --> 00:55:51.736
Thank you. Thank you,

00:55:51.760 --> 00:55:54.760
Jeffrey Conahan. Come on down.

00:55:57.520 --> 00:56:00.520
So, Jeffrey, , it's Yep. name and

00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:02.696
suburb, and then you'll have two

00:56:02.720 --> 00:56:05.720
minutes. I did not forget you.

00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:09.176
, good evening. Jeffrey Conahan,

00:56:09.200 --> 00:56:11.736
Jackson Street Kilda resident since

00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:14.760
1990. I ask counselors to deal with the

00:56:15.040 --> 00:56:18.040
facts around tonight's matter. Not to

00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:21.079
disadvantage the homeless or find them

00:56:21.839 --> 00:56:23.815
has been which has been claimed without

00:56:23.839 --> 00:56:26.839
basis of fact but to deal with the

00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:29.880
people who live elsewhere in hoMears

00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:32.775
and come to St Kilder and set up street

00:56:32.799 --> 00:56:35.496
camps. I use Fitzroy Street and Jackson

00:56:35.520 --> 00:56:37.416
Street on a daily basis. It's my

00:56:37.440 --> 00:56:40.055
neighborhood. I find the street campers

00:56:40.079 --> 00:56:43.079
pack behavior intimidating and their

00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:45.256
camps are covered for drug dealing and

00:56:45.280 --> 00:56:47.095
drug use.

00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:50.119
I've been abused and sworn out on many

00:56:50.160 --> 00:56:52.456
occasions. I've been the target of

00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:55.416
homophobic insults, ironically,

00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:58.216
including in front of the Pride Center.

00:56:58.240 --> 00:57:00.136
I hear the conversations about their

00:57:00.160 --> 00:57:03.160
hoMears. She's at home. I'm going home.

00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:07.400
Let's go home.

00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:11.079
people who come to St. Kilda to cause

00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:14.760
trouble should be the focus of 

00:57:15.200 --> 00:57:17.256
tonight's change.

00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:19.976
I'm not speaking of a small cohort of

00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:21.976
homeless people who I believe council

00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:25.000
officers and service providers seek to

00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:28.119
genuinely help. Tonight's proposal will

00:57:28.240 --> 00:57:31.095
deal with troublemakers who find little

00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:34.119
resistance and no consequence for their

00:57:34.240 --> 00:57:36.136
conduct.

00:57:36.160 --> 00:57:38.216
The social and commercial recovery of

00:57:38.240 --> 00:57:41.016
Fitzroy Street is everyone's wish and

00:57:41.040 --> 00:57:43.575
it's not going to happen with continuing

00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:46.599
to do the same thing. Please support

00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:49.880
option B before you tonight. Thank you.

00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:53.016
Thank you. Our next speaker is Aean

00:57:53.040 --> 00:57:54.936
Dawson. If you could come on down and

00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:56.535
once you're at the microphone, stop with

00:57:56.559 --> 00:57:58.295
your name and suburb. After a will be

00:57:58.319 --> 00:58:00.216
Penny Essing, if you could please make

00:58:00.240 --> 00:58:03.240
your way to the front seat, Penny.

00:58:05.839 --> 00:58:07.736
name and suburb and then two minutes.

00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:09.896
Okay. Good evening.  my name is Aiman

00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:12.136
Dawson and I live in St Kilda. 

00:58:12.160 --> 00:58:13.656
there's a lot of emotion in this room

00:58:13.680 --> 00:58:15.416
tonight. Um I'll just stick to some

00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:18.440
facts. Homelessness is not a crime.

00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:22.599
Rough sleeping is not a crime. 10.2

00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:26.216
option B 3.2.4

00:58:26.240 --> 00:58:28.856
is not an attack on the homeless. It is

00:58:28.880 --> 00:58:31.880
a consequence of the actions of those in

00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:35.079
and who are attracted to encampments. I

00:58:35.680 --> 00:58:37.896
have firsthand witness of such an

00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:39.416
encampment.

00:58:39.440 --> 00:58:41.176
People in and around this camp

00:58:41.200 --> 00:58:43.736
encampment were involved in antisocial

00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:46.535
behavior, assaults, car theft, car

00:58:46.559 --> 00:58:49.095
breakins, house breakins, drug use and

00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:51.496
dealing, littering, public defecation,

00:58:51.520 --> 00:58:53.976
and urination. All of these offenses I

00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:56.456
have proof of. The main difference

00:58:56.480 --> 00:58:59.480
between option A and B is that option A

00:59:00.079 --> 00:59:02.535
only covers areas that the CEO

00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:05.496
designates and for a set period of time.

00:59:05.520 --> 00:59:07.416
The issue with this is that it just

00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:10.295
moves the problem to a new area.

00:59:10.319 --> 00:59:13.176
I strongly recommend council endorses

00:59:13.200 --> 00:59:16.200
10.2 option B. Option B is endorsed by

00:59:17.200 --> 00:59:19.496
Victorian police and they have signed a

00:59:19.520 --> 00:59:22.456
protocol with which council should

00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:25.416
endorse as well. In the survey from

00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:27.976
community safety plan phase 3 engagement

00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:31.000
report page 188 states regarding to

00:59:32.319 --> 00:59:34.295
respondents with a connection to the

00:59:34.319 --> 00:59:37.319
City of Port Phillip, 51% oppose and 41%

00:59:39.040 --> 00:59:42.040
support a local law proposed amendment.

00:59:43.839 --> 00:59:45.896
This is an endorsement that will still

00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:47.416
need to go through many steps of

00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:49.976
consultation. So please continue the

00:59:50.000 --> 00:59:52.456
good work you have been doing. I'm very

00:59:52.480 --> 00:59:54.616
pleased that with the additional

00:59:54.640 --> 00:59:56.535
$273,000

00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:58.696
going between three service providers

00:59:58.720 --> 01:00:01.095
plus $100,000 in crime prevention

01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:04.119
through design is all being passed.

01:00:04.160 --> 01:00:07.160
Please endorse 10.2 option B. Thank you

01:00:07.520 --> 01:00:08.216
for your time.

01:00:08.240 --> 01:00:11.240
Thank you, Aean.

01:00:11.359 --> 01:00:13.416
Penny, you're next. Start with Naman

01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:15.016
Suburb. And while Penny is speaking, if

01:00:15.040 --> 01:00:17.256
Stuart Mai could please make your way to

01:00:17.280 --> 01:00:19.656
the front chair.

01:00:19.680 --> 01:00:22.680
Hi, Penny Elward. Um, essing, sorry. I'm

01:00:23.359 --> 01:00:24.856
a long-term resident of City of Port

01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:26.936
Phillip and are dismayed to see that the

01:00:26.960 --> 01:00:28.856
original and sensible motion by

01:00:28.880 --> 01:00:31.880
councelor Hardy back in Feb um that

01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:33.896
would remove the exemptions on the

01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:35.496
council camping laws has been

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significantly watered down to almost be

01:00:37.680 --> 01:00:40.535
unrecognizable. Its intended purpose was

01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:41.976
to address the very long-standing

01:00:42.000 --> 01:00:43.815
antisocial behavior towards residents,

01:00:43.839 --> 01:00:46.216
visitors, and businesses by those people

01:00:46.240 --> 01:00:48.535
who are attracted to our suburb suburbs

01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:50.136
where there is a distinct lack of any

01:00:50.160 --> 01:00:51.656
accountability or enforcement of

01:00:51.680 --> 01:00:53.256
dismantling encampments on public

01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:55.416
council land. Many of these people have

01:00:55.440 --> 01:00:57.095
hoMears or have been offered accommodation

01:00:57.119 --> 01:00:59.256
and refuse to take it and prefer instead

01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:01.815
to set up camps on our streets, parks,

01:01:01.839 --> 01:01:04.216
and outside businesses, often harassing

01:01:04.240 --> 01:01:05.656
people who are just trying to go about

01:01:05.680 --> 01:01:07.976
their lives or run their business. There

01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:09.815
have been physical and verbal abuse

01:01:09.839 --> 01:01:11.575
thrown at citizens. There are syringes

01:01:11.599 --> 01:01:13.736
everywhere and often our laneways and

01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:15.815
parks are used as public toilets which

01:01:15.839 --> 01:01:18.055
is a public health risk. This has been

01:01:18.079 --> 01:01:19.815
an issue for many years and the rights

01:01:19.839 --> 01:01:21.335
and safety of our community are not

01:01:21.359 --> 01:01:23.095
being considered over those who continue

01:01:23.119 --> 01:01:24.856
to cause harm and display antisocial

01:01:24.880 --> 01:01:26.456
behavior. There are simply no

01:01:26.480 --> 01:01:28.616
consequences and the police cannot act

01:01:28.640 --> 01:01:30.535
while these laws remain watered down and

01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:33.095
ineffective. What pains me most is this

01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:34.696
motion was brought to the table in

01:01:34.720 --> 01:01:36.696
February. It should have been discussed

01:01:36.720 --> 01:01:39.016
in March and voted up in April. And yet

01:01:39.040 --> 01:01:41.256
here we are almost a year later with a

01:01:41.280 --> 01:01:43.256
shell of the original motion and very

01:01:43.280 --> 01:01:45.256
little hope of any change. What a

01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:47.575
complete waste of time and break payers

01:01:47.599 --> 01:01:49.815
money. We had a round table. We heard

01:01:49.839 --> 01:01:51.256
from the police who requested this

01:01:51.280 --> 01:01:52.775
change to local laws to be able to

01:01:52.799 --> 01:01:55.016
affect change to public safety to be

01:01:55.040 --> 01:01:57.496
able to act. Instead, what we've got is

01:01:57.520 --> 01:01:59.575
a lot of noisy activists with vested

01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:01.496
interest in keeping the status quo,

01:02:01.520 --> 01:02:02.856
spreading a whole lot of false and

01:02:02.880 --> 01:02:04.616
inflammatory information, like the old

01:02:04.640 --> 01:02:07.256
chestnut, finding the homeless, which is

01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:09.496
simply not possible. No address, no

01:02:09.520 --> 01:02:11.896
fine. Many councilors campaigned on a

01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:13.896
point of order, may I apologize.

01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:16.376
We've moved on from finding. So, I think

01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:17.736
continue. Let's focus on

01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:19.095
we should have moved on from finding. I

01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:21.256
agree. Many councilors campaigned on a

01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:23.095
platform of improving community safety

01:02:23.119 --> 01:02:24.535
because this was flagged as a very

01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:26.136
important issue amongst voters.

01:02:26.160 --> 01:02:27.896
Community safety has been overlooked and

01:02:27.920 --> 01:02:29.656
disregarded if this motion is off the

01:02:29.680 --> 01:02:30.055
table.

01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:32.055
Thank you, Penny. We're at time. Thank

01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:34.535
you.

01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:36.216
Over to Stuart and the next speaker will

01:02:36.240 --> 01:02:37.815
be Rhonda Small. If you could make your

01:02:37.839 --> 01:02:40.535
way to the front seat. Stuart, if you

01:02:40.559 --> 01:02:41.575
could please start with your name and

01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:42.936
suburb and then you have two minutes.

01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:45.176
, hi everybody. My name is Stuart Mai.

01:02:45.200 --> 01:02:47.896
I live in St Kilda. Um, I've grown up in

01:02:47.920 --> 01:02:49.736
St. Kilder. went to Lwood College and

01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:52.760
Elwood Primary. Um I actually grew up on

01:02:53.200 --> 01:02:55.575
one of  Grief Street,  the

01:02:55.599 --> 01:02:58.599
encampment as they say. Um look, um I

01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:02.456
don't know about this. I'm hearing a lot

01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:05.095
of  the same sort of complaints and I

01:03:05.119 --> 01:03:06.775
understand that people are very like

01:03:06.799 --> 01:03:09.799
emotional about this. Um  but I've

01:03:10.160 --> 01:03:12.535
been here my whole life and it's kind of

01:03:12.559 --> 01:03:14.696
always been like this. I think the issue

01:03:14.720 --> 01:03:17.256
may be escalating, but I don't want

01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:20.136
these people's anger to sort of come out

01:03:20.160 --> 01:03:22.616
and and hurt people in our community.

01:03:22.640 --> 01:03:25.640
Um, I volunteer at the Christ Church 

01:03:26.720 --> 01:03:29.720
mission on Aklland Street on Thursdays.

01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:32.936
Um, I actually serve like a few of the

01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:35.256
people in the encampments. And um,

01:03:35.280 --> 01:03:37.176
honestly, they're not that bad. They're

01:03:37.200 --> 01:03:39.256
just really down on their luck. Um,

01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:42.280
they're fine. They're hungry. Um, and

01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:45.176
they're like, they're angry because I

01:03:45.200 --> 01:03:46.535
don't think life's gone the way they

01:03:46.559 --> 01:03:49.095
hoped it would. Um, I don't really think

01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:50.936
we should be punishing them. Um, I think

01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:53.656
they probably need some support and I

01:03:53.680 --> 01:03:55.015
don't think we're giving them support

01:03:55.039 --> 01:03:57.896
here. I think we're  hurting them. Um,

01:03:57.920 --> 01:04:00.920
and I guess I kind of just urge  you

01:04:01.200 --> 01:04:03.896
guys to think about them as people. Um,

01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:05.736
what I love about Sinclair is that it's

01:04:05.760 --> 01:04:08.760
a very vibrant community and um, I think

01:04:09.039 --> 01:04:10.856
we're going to hurt it if we go forward

01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:13.015
with this. Um, I'd just like to

01:04:13.039 --> 01:04:16.039
encourage some empathy.

01:04:16.240 --> 01:04:19.015
Thank you, Stuart.

01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:22.039
Next speaker is Rhonda Small, name

01:04:22.319 --> 01:04:24.376
suburb. And while Rhonda is speaking,

01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:26.216
Smith Sterling could make your way to

01:04:26.240 --> 01:04:28.775
the front desk, the front chair. Rhonda

01:04:28.799 --> 01:04:30.856
Small, name suburb. Then two minutes.

01:04:30.880 --> 01:04:32.856
Rhonda Small Silda. Thank you mayor and

01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:34.616
counselors. I clearly remember sitting

01:04:34.640 --> 01:04:36.456
here a year ago when all you councilors

01:04:36.480 --> 01:04:38.216
supported establishing a community

01:04:38.240 --> 01:04:41.240
safety roundt with key stakeholders to

01:04:41.440 --> 01:04:42.936
take a comprehensive look at how to

01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:45.416
build community safety and well-being.

01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:47.496
That roundt subsequently reported back

01:04:47.520 --> 01:04:48.936
to you in May where you agreed to

01:04:48.960 --> 01:04:51.015
implement some of its recommendations

01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:53.575
immediately and by September you had

01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:55.815
unanimously endorsed all of the roundt

01:04:55.839 --> 01:04:57.256
recommendations for practical

01:04:57.280 --> 01:04:59.095
initiatives to achieve better

01:04:59.119 --> 01:05:00.856
coordination of services, stronger

01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:02.295
collaboration between community

01:05:02.319 --> 01:05:04.616
agencies, council and police, safe

01:05:04.640 --> 01:05:06.376
gathering places for rough sleepers and

01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:08.616
particularly first nations folk among

01:05:08.640 --> 01:05:11.335
other things. Curiously, given tonight's

01:05:11.359 --> 01:05:13.575
debate on local law change, you also all

01:05:13.599 --> 01:05:16.136
endorsed recommendation six, which

01:05:16.160 --> 01:05:18.136
advocated for ensuring the effectiveness

01:05:18.160 --> 01:05:20.376
of the current local law rather than

01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:23.015
pursuing legislative change. Yet, here

01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:25.575
we are tonight facing a third proposal

01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:28.376
to change our local law. The first,

01:05:28.400 --> 01:05:30.456
removing exemptions, camping exemptions

01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:32.055
for rough sleepers and other vulnerable

01:05:32.079 --> 01:05:33.896
groups, was dropped by council back in

01:05:33.920 --> 01:05:35.815
May amid a ground swell of community

01:05:35.839 --> 01:05:37.976
opposition. But a second proposal to

01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:40.136
declare no temporary no encampment zones

01:05:40.160 --> 01:05:42.055
was put on the table for community

01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:44.696
consultation. From that consultation, we

01:05:44.720 --> 01:05:46.295
now know that the majority of the

01:05:46.319 --> 01:05:48.775
community, 53.4%

01:05:48.799 --> 01:05:51.256
opposed the no encampment proposal and

01:05:51.280 --> 01:05:54.280
most of them, 48% were strongly.

01:05:54.559 --> 01:05:57.015
That's a point order may there's a

01:05:57.039 --> 01:05:59.896
petition with over 2,300 signatures.

01:05:59.920 --> 01:06:01.736
So councelor J, what basis are you

01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:04.760
challenging that that statement?  it's

01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:06.456
not it's an error of fact.

01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:08.136
Okay. What is the fact that you're

01:06:08.160 --> 01:06:09.416
challenging?

01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:11.335
Um I'm challenging the fact that the

01:06:11.359 --> 01:06:13.176
majority of people aren't supportive of

01:06:13.200 --> 01:06:14.856
a local laws change.

01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:16.295
Okay. 

01:06:16.319 --> 01:06:17.176
since the petition,

01:06:17.200 --> 01:06:19.416
we've had a structured consultation.

01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:21.335
We've also had a survey.

01:06:21.359 --> 01:06:23.095
I think what we can do is sort of move

01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:25.496
we've heard the the stats. Let's move on

01:06:25.520 --> 01:06:27.416
in terms of the rest of the statement.

01:06:27.440 --> 01:06:29.736
Okay. Currently, there are two local

01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:31.335
clauses in the local law which provide

01:06:31.359 --> 01:06:33.015
the power to deal with nuisance or

01:06:33.039 --> 01:06:36.039
dangerous behavior. Clause 17 and and

01:06:36.319 --> 01:06:37.815
removal of furniture and other items

01:06:37.839 --> 01:06:39.575
where it obstructs public amenity.

01:06:39.599 --> 01:06:42.216
Clause 43 to introduce a change to the

01:06:42.240 --> 01:06:44.136
local law that targets rough sleepers

01:06:44.160 --> 01:06:46.535
specifically is both unnecessary and

01:06:46.559 --> 01:06:49.176
stigmatizing. Bad behavior and threats

01:06:49.200 --> 01:06:51.015
to public safety are already covered by

01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:53.416
the existing law and apply equally to

01:06:53.440 --> 01:06:55.976
everyone behaving badly, as it should.

01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:58.295
It's for this reason that both option B,

01:06:58.319 --> 01:07:00.216
their option B is as problematic as

01:07:00.240 --> 01:07:02.216
option A. And in fact, it's about

01:07:02.240 --> 01:07:05.240
individual  rough sleepers, not just

01:07:05.680 --> 01:07:07.095
encampments.

01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:08.376
We're time Rhonda. Okay.

01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:10.376
Thank you.

01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:13.176
 Smith Sterling.

01:07:13.200 --> 01:07:15.656
Smith Sterling.

01:07:15.680 --> 01:07:18.680
Thank you.

01:07:20.559 --> 01:07:22.456
If you could start with your name and

01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:23.896
suburb, please. And then you have two

01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:26.696
minutes. Hi, I'm Smith Sterling. Um, I

01:07:26.720 --> 01:07:29.720
live in St. Kilda and I have a Mearssage

01:07:29.839 --> 01:07:32.839
from a woman who I speak to every day.

01:07:33.039 --> 01:07:36.039
Um, she's unhoused and I see her on my

01:07:36.160 --> 01:07:39.160
my walk to the tram every morning.

01:07:39.359 --> 01:07:41.416
As a homeless woman, it is important for

01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:43.575
my safety that I sleep preferably in a

01:07:43.599 --> 01:07:46.216
group. When it's just myself or even a

01:07:46.240 --> 01:07:47.976
few people, we can be the targets for

01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:49.896
people who want to rob us or just hurt

01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:52.376
us. You wouldn't believe how brazen

01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:54.136
people can be on the street, especially

01:07:54.160 --> 01:07:56.936
at night. My mental and physical health

01:07:56.960 --> 01:07:59.176
is already fragile. I don't need more

01:07:59.200 --> 01:08:01.656
injuries in these areas. Having to fight

01:08:01.680 --> 01:08:03.736
for my safety with people on the street

01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:05.575
and then law enforcement is so

01:08:05.599 --> 01:08:07.976
exhausting. It leaves little left to

01:08:08.000 --> 01:08:11.000
what I have to do to see myself housed.

01:08:11.359 --> 01:08:13.095
I want the council to understand these

01:08:13.119 --> 01:08:15.496
issues. If we face being split up in

01:08:15.520 --> 01:08:17.655
case we get a fine or penalty, it's

01:08:17.679 --> 01:08:19.655
really unsafe for everyone, but

01:08:19.679 --> 01:08:21.896
especially for women.

01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:23.896
My experience with local laws has been

01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:26.775
good and bad. It seems fragile depending

01:08:26.799 --> 01:08:28.936
on everyone's moods, especially in the

01:08:28.960 --> 01:08:31.815
evening, in the morning. Some days they

01:08:31.839 --> 01:08:34.135
seem fine to leave us, and others they

01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:37.159
take our belongings and move us on. From

01:08:37.359 --> 01:08:39.255
the minute they arrive, I can't afford a

01:08:39.279 --> 01:08:41.576
lapse in concentration just so my

01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:44.456
blankets and clothes aren't taken away.

01:08:44.480 --> 01:08:46.695
If the council have more powers over

01:08:46.719 --> 01:08:49.255
where we can be, I fear it could get out

01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:51.896
of control from both sides.

01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:53.655
I feel bad enough being seen in my

01:08:53.679 --> 01:08:55.416
vulnerable state, let alone being made

01:08:55.440 --> 01:08:57.655
to feel worse with penalties. The

01:08:57.679 --> 01:09:00.679
council needs to get creative and walk

01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:03.815
with us to tackle this problem. I see

01:09:03.839 --> 01:09:05.976
many empty places everywhere. I can't

01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:08.536
understand how this can be. There needs

01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:11.416
to be a look at the system in place and

01:09:11.440 --> 01:09:14.440
the s the steps required to get housed

01:09:14.719 --> 01:09:17.096
housing needs to be more practical.

01:09:17.120 --> 01:09:18.135
Thank you.

01:09:18.159 --> 01:09:21.159
Thank you. Our next speaker

01:09:21.440 --> 01:09:24.376
is B Shere

01:09:24.400 --> 01:09:26.856
B Chica. Sorry

01:09:26.880 --> 01:09:29.880
B.

01:09:31.040 --> 01:09:33.735
Thank you. And once you arrive, if you

01:09:33.759 --> 01:09:34.856
could please start with your name.

01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:36.936
suburb while Be is speaking.  speaker

01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:38.616
after that will be Leo Lockwood. If you

01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:41.640
could please make your way to the front.

01:09:42.239 --> 01:09:44.215
Hi, my name is Be Char. I'm living in

01:09:44.239 --> 01:09:46.376
Sen Cuda. I have the voice for my

01:09:46.400 --> 01:09:49.400
friends. Um and I want to put on today.

01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:55.496
When you have nowhere to store your

01:09:55.520 --> 01:09:57.096
belongings, you live with your life on

01:09:57.120 --> 01:09:58.616
you. And those things are really

01:09:58.640 --> 01:10:00.776
important. You cherish them because it's

01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:03.175
all that you have. Sleeping rough.

01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:05.175
You're walking around with a whole house

01:10:05.199 --> 01:10:07.416
in your handbag. You really, really have

01:10:07.440 --> 01:10:09.576
everything you own on you. And to have

01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:12.215
the police have a bill passed that they

01:10:12.239 --> 01:10:13.896
can come and confiscate that from you

01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:16.536
would be devastating for a person who is

01:10:16.560 --> 01:10:18.695
homeless and um sleeping rough. We don't

01:10:18.719 --> 01:10:21.416
we can't afford to keep having our our

01:10:21.440 --> 01:10:23.175
belongings taken away from us. Not only

01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:24.776
can we not afford it, they're really

01:10:24.800 --> 01:10:26.616
important to us. It's the only thing we

01:10:26.640 --> 01:10:28.776
have. We don't own anything else. Like

01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:30.776
you say, what we have is all we have. We

01:10:30.800 --> 01:10:32.616
don't have storage rooms. We don't have

01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:34.296
houses or furniture. Like it's part of

01:10:34.320 --> 01:10:36.695
us. It belongs to us. The world is

01:10:36.719 --> 01:10:39.719
unsafe for a woman to be sleeping on her

01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:43.096
own on the street. So the importance of

01:10:43.120 --> 01:10:45.736
having numbers and people that can care

01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:47.655
for one another and look out for one

01:10:47.679 --> 01:10:50.056
another is really important. Well, I

01:10:50.080 --> 01:10:52.056
think stripping someone of all their

01:10:52.080 --> 01:10:54.056
belongings because cuz what you see is

01:10:54.080 --> 01:10:56.776
what we have and putting them in

01:10:56.800 --> 01:10:59.175
situations where they can't congregate

01:10:59.199 --> 01:11:01.576
together is is detrimental to them

01:11:01.600 --> 01:11:03.655
because like everywhere everywhere you

01:11:03.679 --> 01:11:06.056
go there is community and the homeless

01:11:06.080 --> 01:11:09.016
community support one another. when not

01:11:09.040 --> 01:11:11.336
only as a female when I sleeping rough I

01:11:11.360 --> 01:11:13.655
have a a people with me to keep me safe

01:11:13.679 --> 01:11:16.679
but when one eats all eats and we

01:11:17.040 --> 01:11:19.416
support one another where we're our own

01:11:19.440 --> 01:11:22.056
community I we really support one

01:11:22.080 --> 01:11:24.776
another it's it's really important that

01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:27.496
we can congregate together and be with

01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:29.816
each other and keep each other safe just

01:11:29.840 --> 01:11:31.896
kind of think that it's it's it's making

01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:34.920
the police our enemy and in this in in

01:11:34.960 --> 01:11:37.256
homelessness the police need to be our

01:11:37.280 --> 01:11:39.496
support and you by you sending them in

01:11:39.520 --> 01:11:41.976
there to strip us of our belongings and

01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:45.000
telling us we can't be as a community

01:11:45.360 --> 01:11:48.360
at time. Thank you

01:11:50.640 --> 01:11:53.640
Leo Lockwood. Are you here

01:11:58.960 --> 01:12:01.336
and once again name suburb 2 minutes?

01:12:01.360 --> 01:12:02.936
Hi. So my name's actually Sarah

01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:05.416
Williams. I'm  took Leo Lockwood's

01:12:05.440 --> 01:12:08.440
spot today. Um, I live locally on Redan

01:12:09.199 --> 01:12:11.736
Street and I'm also a social worker

01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:13.576
who's worked frontline in homelessness

01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:16.056
for eight years. I just decided to speak

01:12:16.080 --> 01:12:17.416
about an hour ago, so I'm not as

01:12:17.440 --> 01:12:20.056
prepared as I'd like to be. Um, but I

01:12:20.080 --> 01:12:22.056
asked the council to please vote no

01:12:22.080 --> 01:12:24.695
today. I personally know the people who

01:12:24.719 --> 01:12:26.776
will be affected by this and I consider

01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:29.496
them a valued part of our community.

01:12:29.520 --> 01:12:31.576
They are some of the most kind-hearted,

01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:33.896
funny, loving, resilient humans I've

01:12:33.920 --> 01:12:36.056
ever had the pleasure of knowing, and

01:12:36.080 --> 01:12:37.816
I've learned and grown so much by

01:12:37.840 --> 01:12:40.536
knowing them. They are also citizens of

01:12:40.560 --> 01:12:42.296
Port Phillip and deserve to be treated

01:12:42.320 --> 01:12:44.616
with the same respect and dignity as all

01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:47.416
of Port Phillip citizens. I can tell you

01:12:47.440 --> 01:12:49.096
firsthand from working in various

01:12:49.120 --> 01:12:51.336
frontline homelessness roles that they

01:12:51.360 --> 01:12:53.816
are not choosing to live on the streets.

01:12:53.840 --> 01:12:55.655
The immediate housing option that people

01:12:55.679 --> 01:12:57.496
experiencing homelessness are offered is

01:12:57.520 --> 01:13:00.520
a rooming house which costs 70 to 80% of

01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:02.536
someone's center link and the majority

01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:04.616
of the time are unsafe and cause further

01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:07.416
trauma. However, now even these can take

01:13:07.440 --> 01:13:09.896
weeks or months to get. Getting into

01:13:09.920 --> 01:13:12.296
supported crisis, community or public

01:13:12.320 --> 01:13:15.320
housing can take months if not years.

01:13:15.679 --> 01:13:18.296
I've also worked during 2020 and my job

01:13:18.320 --> 01:13:20.376
was to get people off the streets, no

01:13:20.400 --> 01:13:23.256
questions asked, and into hotels. I then

01:13:23.280 --> 01:13:25.496
worked in these hotels and saw firsthand

01:13:25.520 --> 01:13:27.336
just how much having a housing first

01:13:27.360 --> 01:13:29.976
framework is the answer. I asked the

01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:32.856
council to please choose option C to

01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:34.616
support all of Port Phillip citizens

01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:36.936
with compassion and use the resources

01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:39.096
instead to invest in a housing first

01:13:39.120 --> 01:13:41.416
approach which also includes wraparound

01:13:41.440 --> 01:13:44.296
support services. Um, yeah. So, that's

01:13:44.320 --> 01:13:46.135
just what I wrote, but I want to say

01:13:46.159 --> 01:13:48.856
that I feel like we can all come

01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:51.880
together and have an approach where all

01:13:52.640 --> 01:13:55.416
of us can be treated equally and and I

01:13:55.440 --> 01:13:57.175
think I understand why people are upset,

01:13:57.199 --> 01:13:58.856
but I think that we should instead

01:13:58.880 --> 01:14:01.880
invest in the community coming together.

01:14:01.920 --> 01:14:03.736
And if you guys took the time to get to

01:14:03.760 --> 01:14:05.016
know everybody on the streets, you would

01:14:05.040 --> 01:14:06.936
see just how amazing these people are as

01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:08.215
well, too.

01:14:08.239 --> 01:14:10.456
Thank you. And right on time. Thank you,

01:14:10.480 --> 01:14:13.096
Sarah. David Watson, you're our next

01:14:13.120 --> 01:14:15.896
speaker. Come on down.

01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:18.856
David Watson.

01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:21.016
Going once, going twice.

01:14:21.040 --> 01:14:23.496
Sorry, did you say David Weston?

01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:26.520
David Watson. I had here.

01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:30.616
Angel Lee.

01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:32.456
Thank you,

01:14:32.480 --> 01:14:34.776
Angel. Name, suburb, and then you have

01:14:34.800 --> 01:14:36.856
two minutes.

01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:39.496
Um, Angel Lee Lwood. I'm speaking in

01:14:39.520 --> 01:14:42.520
support to 10.2. The motion said 10.2 to

01:14:42.719 --> 01:14:45.719
amend local laws option B so as to

01:14:46.239 --> 01:14:48.135
encourage council's commitment to make a

01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:50.536
safer and more vibrant community for all

01:14:50.560 --> 01:14:53.560
and to protect all community. There is a

01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:56.920
local law 51. I am guilty of an offense

01:14:57.679 --> 01:15:00.296
due to this local law. As an owner of

01:15:00.320 --> 01:15:03.175
land on Fitzroy Street, I must not allow

01:15:03.199 --> 01:15:05.816
this land to be kept in a manner which

01:15:05.840 --> 01:15:08.376
is dangerous or unsightly, nor the

01:15:08.400 --> 01:15:11.400
footpath adjacent. Yet it is due to the

01:15:11.840 --> 01:15:14.776
encampments. I as owner am not making it

01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:17.256
dangerous or unsightly, nor are the

01:15:17.280 --> 01:15:19.655
businesses owners, nor are the tenants,

01:15:19.679 --> 01:15:21.416
the staff, the cleaners, or the

01:15:21.440 --> 01:15:23.896
residents who use its services. The

01:15:23.920 --> 01:15:26.695
encampments are. Yet, I need to rectify

01:15:26.719 --> 01:15:29.655
or I'm guilty of a serious offense. I

01:15:29.679 --> 01:15:32.679
have spent a percent of over $70,000 in

01:15:33.280 --> 01:15:36.280
the past 24 months to repair damage and

01:15:36.320 --> 01:15:39.256
find solutions to stop such encampments

01:15:39.280 --> 01:15:41.736
at the front and the back. Residents at

01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:44.215
the back have been immensely thankful so

01:15:44.239 --> 01:15:46.215
they don't have to endure what these

01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:49.239
encampments have caused. The unsightly

01:15:49.440 --> 01:15:52.215
and dangerous behavior of open drug use,

01:15:52.239 --> 01:15:55.016
injecting into arms, ankles, necks,

01:15:55.040 --> 01:15:56.776
screaming, drinking, aggressive

01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:59.175
behavior, drug deals all night. Mearss

01:15:59.199 --> 01:16:01.976
left. Bongs, glass pipes, syringes, wee,

01:16:02.000 --> 01:16:05.000
poo, all sorts of furnishings, trolley

01:16:05.040 --> 01:16:07.736
full of stuff, and even setting up

01:16:07.760 --> 01:16:10.760
fires. Vandalism, breaking in, graffiti

01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:14.056
with Mearssages such as, "Haha! This is

01:16:14.080 --> 01:16:16.936
what happens when you lock your gates.

01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:18.936
Business owners, cleaners, and I have

01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:21.016
been chased, threatened, attacked, and

01:16:21.040 --> 01:16:24.040
abused." This is a current estimate, not

01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:27.239
fact, that there is over 112,000 people

01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:30.936
living in the City of Port Phillip.

01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:33.960
There's 1,500 streets, 169 parks, 52

01:16:35.360 --> 01:16:36.936
households,

01:16:36.960 --> 01:16:39.096
112,000 do not see.

01:16:39.120 --> 01:16:41.016
Thank you, Angel. We are at time. Thank

01:16:41.040 --> 01:16:43.896
you.

01:16:43.920 --> 01:16:46.920
And David Weston, you are next.

01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:54.376
 once you arrive if you could please

01:16:54.400 --> 01:16:55.736
start with your name sub you have two

01:16:55.760 --> 01:16:58.135
minutes and if India rolls could please

01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:00.376
come to the front seat you'll be next.

01:17:00.400 --> 01:17:03.336
Thank you mayor David Weston.  I'm a

01:17:03.360 --> 01:17:05.896
resident of South Melbourne.  thank

01:17:05.920 --> 01:17:08.920
you councilors and  staff for  this

01:17:09.199 --> 01:17:11.496
this opportunity this evening. I'm a

01:17:11.520 --> 01:17:13.576
30-year resident of the area in South

01:17:13.600 --> 01:17:16.296
Melbourne near Kingsway Napia Cobden and

01:17:16.320 --> 01:17:19.016
Ste Streets. I'm a member of the Ste

01:17:19.040 --> 01:17:21.816
Street Neighborhood Watch apps group.

01:17:21.840 --> 01:17:23.736
I'm here tonight to raise concerns

01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:26.536
regarding the continued use of the City

01:17:26.560 --> 01:17:28.856
Park Hotel on Kingsway for emergency

01:17:28.880 --> 01:17:31.576
housing placements managed through the

01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:34.600
Department of  Families Fairness and

01:17:35.440 --> 01:17:38.440
 and and housing and launch housing.

01:17:40.320 --> 01:17:42.296
I make this statement in response to the

01:17:42.320 --> 01:17:45.096
council's homeless and homelessness and

01:17:45.120 --> 01:17:47.576
affordability strategy where the council

01:17:47.600 --> 01:17:50.600
seeks to be the coordinator and leader

01:17:51.120 --> 01:17:53.096
playing a coordinating role bringing

01:17:53.120 --> 01:17:55.576
together services partners and the

01:17:55.600 --> 01:17:57.655
community in efforts to deliver

01:17:57.679 --> 01:17:59.736
integrated local responsive

01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:01.896
homelessness, mental health, drug and

01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:04.056
alcohol solutions.

01:18:04.080 --> 01:18:06.616
In context two of the community safety

01:18:06.640 --> 01:18:09.640
strategy, the council's community s

01:18:09.679 --> 01:18:12.679
strategy survey  selected the most

01:18:12.960 --> 01:18:15.496
important areas were homelessness and

01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:17.896
house  housing and homelessness,

01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:20.215
personal and property safety and crime

01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:22.856
prevention activities. Our area has won

01:18:22.880 --> 01:18:25.416
the trifecta due to the use of the City

01:18:25.440 --> 01:18:27.816
park hotel on Kingsway for crisis

01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:30.215
accommodation.

01:18:30.239 --> 01:18:32.936
We seek clarification by council as to

01:18:32.960 --> 01:18:35.896
whether the City park hotel  current

01:18:35.920 --> 01:18:38.616
standard commercial  hotel planning

01:18:38.640 --> 01:18:41.096
permit adequately covers its continuous

01:18:41.120 --> 01:18:43.896
and long-term use as a de facto crisis

01:18:43.920 --> 01:18:46.296
accommodation facility for high need

01:18:46.320 --> 01:18:48.456
individuals.

01:18:48.480 --> 01:18:50.296
The sustained use of this private

01:18:50.320 --> 01:18:52.215
accommodation under the housing

01:18:52.239 --> 01:18:54.376
establishment fund risk blurring the

01:18:54.400 --> 01:18:57.016
lines and potentially converting it into

01:18:57.040 --> 01:18:59.896
an unregistered roing house or shelter

01:18:59.920 --> 01:19:02.920
thereby  illegally bypassing form.

01:19:04.000 --> 01:19:06.856
David, we are at time. Thank you.

01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:09.880
Ian Stewart, you are our next speaker.

01:19:10.640 --> 01:19:12.776
Sorry, my apologies. India rolls, you

01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:15.016
are next. And then Ian Stewart, you are

01:19:15.040 --> 01:19:16.616
after India. if you could please make

01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:18.776
your way to the frontier.

01:19:18.800 --> 01:19:20.135
 if you could please start with your

01:19:20.159 --> 01:19:21.416
name and suburb and then you have 2

01:19:21.440 --> 01:19:21.976
minutes.

01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:24.376
I'm India. I'm from St. Kilda and I've

01:19:24.400 --> 01:19:26.616
grown up in St. Kilda and lived here for

01:19:26.640 --> 01:19:29.576
28 years. I'm here today to urge the

01:19:29.600 --> 01:19:31.976
councilors to vote against option A and

01:19:32.000 --> 01:19:34.296
option B of the proposed local law

01:19:34.320 --> 01:19:37.096
changes. Community consultation in June

01:19:37.120 --> 01:19:39.175
showed that a majority of the council

01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:41.096
survey respondents are opposed to

01:19:41.120 --> 01:19:43.416
changing the law. However, I do want to

01:19:43.440 --> 01:19:45.016
mention that nowhere near enough

01:19:45.040 --> 01:19:46.616
consultation happened with rough

01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:48.695
sleepers. Barely any people who have

01:19:48.719 --> 01:19:50.536
slept rough in their life got to share

01:19:50.560 --> 01:19:53.016
their opinions and ideas for solutions.

01:19:53.040 --> 01:19:55.416
There were only 13 out of almost 900

01:19:55.440 --> 01:19:57.416
survey respondents that had ever had

01:19:57.440 --> 01:19:59.496
lived experience of homelessness. We

01:19:59.520 --> 01:20:01.175
need to do better to include these

01:20:01.199 --> 01:20:03.256
people in our discussions as they are

01:20:03.280 --> 01:20:05.655
directly affected by this. I actually

01:20:05.679 --> 01:20:08.616
just came from a speakout organized on

01:20:08.640 --> 01:20:10.936
the steps of the town hall by community

01:20:10.960 --> 01:20:13.016
members and Vixen, which is Victoria's

01:20:13.040 --> 01:20:15.655
peer sex worker organization. And we

01:20:15.679 --> 01:20:16.936
heard from people who live on the

01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:18.776
streets and how important it is for them

01:20:18.800 --> 01:20:20.296
to stay together in encampments for

01:20:20.320 --> 01:20:22.536
their safety. They also stated that

01:20:22.560 --> 01:20:24.296
local law officers are already

01:20:24.320 --> 01:20:26.135
confiscating sometiMears their belongings

01:20:26.159 --> 01:20:27.736
and that the time and energy that they

01:20:27.760 --> 01:20:29.816
have to divert from looking for housing

01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:32.296
to get their belongings back is a lot.

01:20:32.320 --> 01:20:34.135
These items are also not luxuries. They

01:20:34.159 --> 01:20:35.816
are things that people use to survive

01:20:35.840 --> 01:20:38.296
dayto-day. I think everyone in this room

01:20:38.320 --> 01:20:39.736
can agree that something needs to be

01:20:39.760 --> 01:20:41.896
done. However, these proposals are a

01:20:41.920 --> 01:20:43.576
waste of money and resources that could

01:20:43.600 --> 01:20:45.416
instead be funneled into approaches that

01:20:45.440 --> 01:20:47.976
are housing first and traumled. These

01:20:48.000 --> 01:20:49.736
law changes will not tackle the root

01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:51.736
causes of homelessness, substance use,

01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:53.496
and antisocial behavior. Instead of

01:20:53.520 --> 01:20:55.496
money putting money down the drain into

01:20:55.520 --> 01:20:57.096
a proposal that might appease some

01:20:57.120 --> 01:20:59.256
people in the short term, we should be

01:20:59.280 --> 01:21:00.376
leading with compassion and

01:21:00.400 --> 01:21:02.856
evidence-based solutions. There's no

01:21:02.880 --> 01:21:05.016
evidence that this change will have the

01:21:05.040 --> 01:21:07.096
ability to prove improve the situation.

01:21:07.120 --> 01:21:09.336
The scope is very narrow and all of the

01:21:09.360 --> 01:21:11.416
local community service providers that

01:21:11.440 --> 01:21:13.896
were consulted have denounced it. Many

01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:15.256
people have talked about problematic

01:21:15.280 --> 01:21:17.896
behaviors but there are already laws in

01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:19.416
place to respond to that and this

01:21:19.440 --> 01:21:21.336
proposal just targets people's living

01:21:21.360 --> 01:21:24.360
conditions. City of Port Phip India we

01:21:24.400 --> 01:21:25.016
are at time.

01:21:25.040 --> 01:21:25.896
No worries. Thank you.

01:21:25.920 --> 01:21:27.655
Thank you.

01:21:27.679 --> 01:21:30.679
Ian Stewart you are next. While Ian is

01:21:30.719 --> 01:21:33.576
speaking, Sam Patterson, if you could

01:21:33.600 --> 01:21:35.175
please make your way to the front chair.

01:21:35.199 --> 01:21:36.695
And Ian, if you could please start with

01:21:36.719 --> 01:21:38.215
your name, suburb, and then you have two

01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:38.695
minutes.

01:21:38.719 --> 01:21:40.936
, my name is Ian Stewart. I live in

01:21:40.960 --> 01:21:43.016
South Melbourne. I support council

01:21:43.040 --> 01:21:46.040
adopting option C. Council established

01:21:46.080 --> 01:21:47.976
the process and expert opinions were

01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:50.856
sought. The appointed body opted for C.

01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:52.536
Having established this process, it

01:21:52.560 --> 01:21:54.456
would seem odd for council now to reject

01:21:54.480 --> 01:21:57.175
their preference. It's understandable

01:21:57.199 --> 01:21:59.496
that persons adversely impacted may

01:21:59.520 --> 01:22:02.135
desire a different outcome. Most of us

01:22:02.159 --> 01:22:05.159
wish to feel safe, secure wherever we

01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:08.199
are, whether that be in the street or in

01:22:08.719 --> 01:22:11.416
on public transport, in a public park or

01:22:11.440 --> 01:22:14.376
in our residence. Social issues

01:22:14.400 --> 01:22:16.936
adversely impacting citizens can and do

01:22:16.960 --> 01:22:19.175
have their origin in a whole variety of

01:22:19.199 --> 01:22:22.056
reasons, a lot of which lie outside the

01:22:22.080 --> 01:22:24.695
control of the persons concerned. These

01:22:24.719 --> 01:22:26.296
problems are not unique to one

01:22:26.320 --> 01:22:29.256
geographical local but exist across the

01:22:29.280 --> 01:22:32.280
municipality and more broadly. If we

01:22:32.400 --> 01:22:34.536
start to define who can and cannot be

01:22:34.560 --> 01:22:36.296
present in our neighborhood, we'll end

01:22:36.320 --> 01:22:38.456
up with gated communities or something

01:22:38.480 --> 01:22:40.936
similar. We've heard repeated p

01:22:40.960 --> 01:22:42.695
pronouncements and the need for greater

01:22:42.719 --> 01:22:45.655
social cohesion in our communities. That

01:22:45.679 --> 01:22:48.215
cohesion can be advanced only if we make

01:22:48.239 --> 01:22:50.936
provision for all those who inhabit the

01:22:50.960 --> 01:22:53.896
that community. Option sheet C offers

01:22:53.920 --> 01:22:55.976
practical assistance. It's also the

01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:57.496
prever

01:22:57.520 --> 01:23:00.056
prever preferred position, sorry, of

01:23:00.080 --> 01:23:02.215
those we sought guidance from. Thank

01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:02.856
you.

01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:05.880
Thank you, Ian. Sam Patterson.

01:23:09.120 --> 01:23:12.120
Sam Patterson

01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:18.920
in person.

01:23:20.159 --> 01:23:22.856
Doesn't look like it. , Matthew Herbs,

01:23:22.880 --> 01:23:25.175
you're next. If you could please start

01:23:25.199 --> 01:23:26.376
with your name and suburb once you

01:23:26.400 --> 01:23:28.776
arrive. While Matthew's making his way

01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:31.175
down, Matthew Anon, you will be the

01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:32.695
speaker after. So, if you could please

01:23:32.719 --> 01:23:35.719
find your way to the front chair.

01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:37.336
My name is Matthew Herbs. I live in

01:23:37.360 --> 01:23:39.175
Jackson Street in St Kilda and I've

01:23:39.199 --> 01:23:42.056
lived there since 1998.

01:23:42.080 --> 01:23:44.536
Um, for many years I've heard successive

01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:47.560
councils defer responsibility for for

01:23:47.840 --> 01:23:50.776
Fitzroy Street  to third parties. The

01:23:50.800 --> 01:23:53.016
Pride Center was going to revitalize the

01:23:53.040 --> 01:23:55.896
street. The block television show would

01:23:55.920 --> 01:23:58.536
revitalize the Fitzroy Street when the

01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:00.615
Gatwick was sold. The redevelopment of

01:24:00.639 --> 01:24:02.376
the Prince Hotel, the redevelopment of

01:24:02.400 --> 01:24:05.016
the Esplanard Hotel, the Oslo Hotel on

01:24:05.040 --> 01:24:07.736
Grey Street, the second block TV project

01:24:07.760 --> 01:24:10.760
would revitalize Vitro Street. It's

01:24:11.040 --> 01:24:12.456
always been somebody else's

01:24:12.480 --> 01:24:15.096
responsibility.

01:24:15.120 --> 01:24:17.896
I request that councils step up and take

01:24:17.920 --> 01:24:19.736
initiatives to deal with the ongoing

01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:22.615
antisocial behaviors

01:24:22.639 --> 01:24:25.416
not deferred to a third party and

01:24:25.440 --> 01:24:28.440
endorse 10.2 recommendation 3.2 option

01:24:30.080 --> 01:24:33.016
B.  this affects my neighborhood but

01:24:33.040 --> 01:24:35.576
it's ultimately your responsibility.

01:24:35.600 --> 01:24:38.600
Thank you.

01:24:38.800 --> 01:24:41.096
I'm sorry Maryanne noon.  if you could

01:24:41.120 --> 01:24:43.096
please start with your name and suburb

01:24:43.120 --> 01:24:44.695
and then Campbell Spence will be our

01:24:44.719 --> 01:24:45.816
next speaker. If you could make your way

01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:48.376
down to the front chair,

01:24:48.400 --> 01:24:50.376
long-term resident of South Melbourne

01:24:50.400 --> 01:24:52.215
and also a board member of Southport

01:24:52.239 --> 01:24:54.695
Community Housing Group. In relation to

01:24:54.719 --> 01:24:57.576
item 10.2, I encourage councilors to

01:24:57.600 --> 01:25:00.600
endorse option C. My comments go to the

01:25:01.120 --> 01:25:04.120
inconsistency between options A or B and

01:25:05.280 --> 01:25:07.576
the two related proposed strategies on

01:25:07.600 --> 01:25:09.416
tonight's agenda, the homelessness

01:25:09.440 --> 01:25:12.056
strategy and the safety agenda. Council

01:25:12.080 --> 01:25:14.376
is to be congratulated on the proposed

01:25:14.400 --> 01:25:16.215
homelessness and affordable housing

01:25:16.239 --> 01:25:18.776
strategy, particularly the vision to

01:25:18.800 --> 01:25:20.615
work towards functional zero

01:25:20.639 --> 01:25:22.536
homelessness and the provision of

01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:25.560
wraparound services. A pillar of that

01:25:25.679 --> 01:25:28.376
strategy is to reduce homelessness by

01:25:28.400 --> 01:25:31.400
coordinating compassionate place-based

01:25:31.440 --> 01:25:34.440
responses, an approach I support.

01:25:35.120 --> 01:25:37.096
Additionally, in relation to council's

01:25:37.120 --> 01:25:39.576
proposed community safety plan,

01:25:39.600 --> 01:25:42.135
council's vision for community safety is

01:25:42.159 --> 01:25:44.936
grounded in equity, prevention, and

01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:46.695
collaboration.

01:25:46.719 --> 01:25:48.856
Services, programs, and partnerships are

01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:51.880
to be expanded as part of that plan. And

01:25:52.320 --> 01:25:54.215
as council officers suggest in the

01:25:54.239 --> 01:25:57.096
paper, this enhanced service delivery

01:25:57.120 --> 01:25:59.496
could provide early intervention that

01:25:59.520 --> 01:26:02.520
will avoid and dispersed encountments

01:26:02.560 --> 01:26:05.560
without the need for a local law change.

01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:08.615
The community engagement report clearly

01:26:08.639 --> 01:26:10.615
suggests that a large number and if not

01:26:10.639 --> 01:26:12.776
the majority of the community, but

01:26:12.800 --> 01:26:15.655
perhaps more importantly all relevant

01:26:15.679 --> 01:26:18.679
service providers do not support any

01:26:18.800 --> 01:26:21.336
change in the local law.

01:26:21.360 --> 01:26:24.360
Surely we need to allow the approach and

01:26:24.480 --> 01:26:26.296
the enhanced service delivery model

01:26:26.320 --> 01:26:28.536
outlined in the homelessness and the

01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:30.296
community safety strategies to be

01:26:30.320 --> 01:26:33.320
implemented. The thrust of options A or

01:26:33.360 --> 01:26:35.896
B is completely contradictory to the

01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:37.816
approach contained in those two

01:26:37.840 --> 01:26:40.840
important new strategies. If councilors

01:26:40.960 --> 01:26:43.175
now proceed to endorse either option or

01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:45.655
B, they will not be giving either of

01:26:45.679 --> 01:26:47.736
those two proposed strategies a chance

01:26:47.760 --> 01:26:49.096
to succeed.

01:26:49.120 --> 01:26:51.896
Thank you. We are at time. Ask you to

01:26:51.920 --> 01:26:52.536
count.

01:26:52.560 --> 01:26:55.560
Thanks. We are at time. Campbell Spence.

01:26:56.080 --> 01:26:58.536
 name and suburb. While Campbell is

01:26:58.560 --> 01:27:00.215
speaking, if Amanda Swanson could please

01:27:00.239 --> 01:27:02.056
make your way to the front chair. Thank

01:27:02.080 --> 01:27:04.296
you. Campbell, over to you. Name suburb.

01:27:04.320 --> 01:27:05.096
Then 2 minutes.

01:27:05.120 --> 01:27:07.336
I'm Campbell Spence, a resident of

01:27:07.360 --> 01:27:09.736
Middle Park for 43 years, and I'd like

01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:12.760
to speak in support of  10.2 option B.

01:27:14.719 --> 01:27:16.695
On human rights day, it's important to

01:27:16.719 --> 01:27:18.615
acknowledge that everyone has a human

01:27:18.639 --> 01:27:20.936
right to be safe when walking on our

01:27:20.960 --> 01:27:23.576
streets. Every resident, visitor,

01:27:23.600 --> 01:27:26.296
retail, and hospitality worker have a

01:27:26.320 --> 01:27:29.320
right to be safe. But our once iconic

01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:32.536
and thriving retail and dining precincts

01:27:32.560 --> 01:27:35.016
are being destroyed by encampments and

01:27:35.040 --> 01:27:37.976
antisocial behavior. There has been much

01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:40.056
blaMearshifting, but the current camping

01:27:40.080 --> 01:27:42.376
laws are contributing to the product

01:27:42.400 --> 01:27:45.400
problem. Rough sleepers also have human

01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:48.215
rights, but allowing vulnerable people

01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:50.456
to live on the streets is neither kind

01:27:50.480 --> 01:27:53.096
nor compassionate. Too often, rough

01:27:53.120 --> 01:27:55.256
sleepers are the victims of violent

01:27:55.280 --> 01:27:58.280
attacks. To do nothing is neglectful,

01:27:58.320 --> 01:28:01.256
and we must do better.

01:28:01.280 --> 01:28:04.280
110 thou thousand people living in Port

01:28:04.480 --> 01:28:06.856
Phillip have human rights to be safe but

01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:09.655
our safety and amenity is put at risk by

01:28:09.679 --> 01:28:12.456
fewer than 100 people

01:28:12.480 --> 01:28:14.776
who make our environment unsafe and

01:28:14.800 --> 01:28:17.416
antisocial. Safety was identified as a

01:28:17.440 --> 01:28:19.655
key priority in the community panel

01:28:19.679 --> 01:28:22.296
earlier this year. 300 people marched in

01:28:22.320 --> 01:28:24.695
Fitzroy and Aklland streets in February

01:28:24.719 --> 01:28:27.096
and 2,357

01:28:27.120 --> 01:28:29.896
people have signed a petition calling

01:28:29.920 --> 01:28:32.135
for safer streets and changes to the

01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:35.159
camping laws. Our streets have not been

01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:38.199
safer since the community roundt in

01:28:38.960 --> 01:28:41.416
March. People don't want encampments.

01:28:41.440 --> 01:28:43.496
They want to feel safe. They want to be

01:28:43.520 --> 01:28:45.416
they don't want to be confronted by

01:28:45.440 --> 01:28:47.816
discarded syringes, antisocial behavior

01:28:47.840 --> 01:28:50.135
and verbal abuse. It was disappointing

01:28:50.159 --> 01:28:53.159
that councelor Hardy's um motion to

01:28:53.199 --> 01:28:55.896
remove the encampments  is not on the

01:28:55.920 --> 01:28:58.776
table tonight. Option B seems a workable

01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:00.296
solution.

01:29:00.320 --> 01:29:03.320
Um but residents do expect enforcement

01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:06.215
of any new local laws.

01:29:06.239 --> 01:29:07.816
Campbell, we are at time.

01:29:07.840 --> 01:29:09.256
Thank you.

01:29:09.280 --> 01:29:12.280
Amanda Swanson,  name suburb and then

01:29:12.400 --> 01:29:14.296
you have two minutes.  while Amanda is

01:29:14.320 --> 01:29:15.655
speaking, Colin Synindle, you will be

01:29:15.679 --> 01:29:16.936
the next speaker. So please make your

01:29:16.960 --> 01:29:18.615
way to the front chair. Over to you,

01:29:18.639 --> 01:29:20.296
Amanda. Name suburb within 2 minutes.

01:29:20.320 --> 01:29:21.655
Good evening, everybody. My name is

01:29:21.679 --> 01:29:23.416
Amanda Swanson. I'm a resident of St.

01:29:23.440 --> 01:29:25.736
Kilda. Um I was last here in person in

01:29:25.760 --> 01:29:28.536
September. Um and I'm back again just

01:29:28.560 --> 01:29:30.296
because I just feel like nothing's

01:29:30.320 --> 01:29:32.695
changed um with all the issues I brought

01:29:32.719 --> 01:29:35.719
up at that particular um council meeting

01:29:35.840 --> 01:29:37.576
more than a month later. I waited to

01:29:37.600 --> 01:29:39.016
receive the response back from the Port

01:29:39.040 --> 01:29:40.615
Phillip Council acknowledging the issues

01:29:40.639 --> 01:29:42.615
that had were raised. And the response

01:29:42.639 --> 01:29:44.296
began with, "We are very sorry to hear

01:29:44.320 --> 01:29:45.655
about the impact on you and your

01:29:45.679 --> 01:29:47.175
neighbors and want to reassure you that

01:29:47.199 --> 01:29:49.736
we're doing all we can to assist." City

01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:51.416
of Fort Phillip, I'm sorry, but you're

01:29:51.440 --> 01:29:53.976
not doing all you can to assist. Each

01:29:54.000 --> 01:29:55.655
and every action point that we've raised

01:29:55.679 --> 01:29:58.679
was completely ignored. I haven't heard

01:29:59.360 --> 01:30:02.296
um what the solution actually is, and

01:30:02.320 --> 01:30:03.976
absolutely nothing has happened since

01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:05.576
receiving the letter saying that you

01:30:05.600 --> 01:30:08.600
were sorry about us feeling that way. We

01:30:08.800 --> 01:30:11.655
feel completely fogged off.

01:30:11.679 --> 01:30:13.096
There are counselors in the room who

01:30:13.120 --> 01:30:14.776
I've spoken to individually in regards

01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:16.376
to these issues in the hope that they

01:30:16.400 --> 01:30:18.135
will be willing and interested to help

01:30:18.159 --> 01:30:20.215
myself and my f fellow residents,

01:30:20.239 --> 01:30:21.816
especially considering how many of you

01:30:21.840 --> 01:30:23.896
listed public safety as a concern on

01:30:23.920 --> 01:30:26.296
your election campaign ads. However, the

01:30:26.320 --> 01:30:28.456
reality is I don't believe you really

01:30:28.480 --> 01:30:30.056
know how bad it is until you live with

01:30:30.080 --> 01:30:32.536
it or if you don't actually live in St

01:30:32.560 --> 01:30:34.695
Kilda. So, I believe at this point we're

01:30:34.719 --> 01:30:36.456
at breaking point. We've marched the

01:30:36.480 --> 01:30:38.056
streets. We've signed the safe streets

01:30:38.080 --> 01:30:40.135
petitioned. With snaps send solved and

01:30:40.159 --> 01:30:41.416
we've made the calls and type the

01:30:41.440 --> 01:30:43.016
emails, hours that we will never get

01:30:43.040 --> 01:30:45.336
back. Clearly enough, doing nothing is

01:30:45.360 --> 01:30:47.175
not an option. The only option is to

01:30:47.199 --> 01:30:49.175
update local laws to endorse a pathway

01:30:49.199 --> 01:30:51.256
to change and positivity. And looking at

01:30:51.280 --> 01:30:53.256
the options available now, option B is

01:30:53.280 --> 01:30:55.416
the only option. I want to be clear by

01:30:55.440 --> 01:30:57.976
recommending this option that I do not

01:30:58.000 --> 01:30:59.976
want to target homelessness. We're not

01:31:00.000 --> 01:31:01.416
deliberately targeting. We're just

01:31:01.440 --> 01:31:03.256
targeting antisocial and unacceptable

01:31:03.280 --> 01:31:06.215
behavior that the encampments encourage.

01:31:06.239 --> 01:31:07.896
I absolutely speak from firsthand

01:31:07.920 --> 01:31:09.496
experience.

01:31:09.520 --> 01:31:11.336
We all deserve a helping hand in life.

01:31:11.360 --> 01:31:13.175
However, if you choose to throw a bottle

01:31:13.199 --> 01:31:15.175
at someone's head, rip apart a beautiful

01:31:15.199 --> 01:31:17.175
tree just for the fun of it, or defecate

01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:19.016
in the street, why should this behavior

01:31:19.040 --> 01:31:21.655
and lack and lack of common respect be

01:31:21.679 --> 01:31:23.256
exempt from the law, please?

01:31:23.280 --> 01:31:26.280
Thank you, Amanda. We're at time.

01:31:28.080 --> 01:31:30.856
Colin is our next speaker. MK Smith is

01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:32.376
after Colin. If you could please make

01:31:32.400 --> 01:31:34.376
your way to the front chair. Colin

01:31:34.400 --> 01:31:35.896
Synindle name suburb and then

01:31:35.920 --> 01:31:38.215
Colin Synindle St Kilda. Thank you. Um

01:31:38.239 --> 01:31:41.239
I'm speaking um in support of option C.

01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:43.816
Um and I'd like to start by saying that

01:31:43.840 --> 01:31:46.376
I do recognize these concerns about um

01:31:46.400 --> 01:31:48.376
safety and antisocial behavior which is

01:31:48.400 --> 01:31:50.615
seen as associated with encampments and

01:31:50.639 --> 01:31:53.496
I don't want to downplay that. But I'm

01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:56.296
not aware of any evidence um that

01:31:56.320 --> 01:31:58.376
suggests that the proposed local law

01:31:58.400 --> 01:32:00.776
changes um will be the solution. And I

01:32:00.800 --> 01:32:03.175
think people might be disappointed

01:32:03.199 --> 01:32:06.056
um if if if if they are passed and you

01:32:06.080 --> 01:32:07.896
won't see the results that people were

01:32:07.920 --> 01:32:10.920
hoping for. If council votes for options

01:32:11.040 --> 01:32:13.416
A or B, the engagement and legal

01:32:13.440 --> 01:32:15.336
processes that would follow will incur

01:32:15.360 --> 01:32:18.296
significant opportunity costs. Resources

01:32:18.320 --> 01:32:20.536
would be far better directed at enhanced

01:32:20.560 --> 01:32:22.615
service delivery.

01:32:22.639 --> 01:32:24.695
Option C, contrary to some claims that

01:32:24.719 --> 01:32:26.695
have been made, is not a recommendation

01:32:26.719 --> 01:32:29.655
to do nothing. In the new strategies

01:32:29.679 --> 01:32:31.736
council is considering tonight, there

01:32:31.760 --> 01:32:34.135
are many important recommendations that

01:32:34.159 --> 01:32:36.776
will strengthen um c improve and

01:32:36.800 --> 01:32:39.496
strengthen council's approach. If these

01:32:39.520 --> 01:32:41.256
are endorsed, they will build on some

01:32:41.280 --> 01:32:43.576
remarkable achievements. We should

01:32:43.600 --> 01:32:46.056
remember that in 2022, Port Phillip was

01:32:46.080 --> 01:32:47.736
recognized as the first Australian

01:32:47.760 --> 01:32:49.736
community to achieve a measurable

01:32:49.760 --> 01:32:52.376
reduction in street homelessness. Since

01:32:52.400 --> 01:32:54.296
then there have been further further

01:32:54.320 --> 01:32:57.016
reductions. Clearly however more does

01:32:57.040 --> 01:32:59.175
need to be done and there examples in

01:32:59.199 --> 01:33:01.256
your papers of where that some of the

01:33:01.280 --> 01:33:04.280
gaps are. For example in um under

01:33:04.400 --> 01:33:06.936
underresourced outreach services health

01:33:06.960 --> 01:33:09.816
issues require more attention. But these

01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:11.736
gaps are all addressed in the strategies

01:33:11.760 --> 01:33:14.296
you have before you

01:33:14.320 --> 01:33:17.320
as stated in your agenda papers. um the

01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:20.056
not proceeding with the law change under

01:33:20.080 --> 01:33:21.896
option C would allow time for the

01:33:21.920 --> 01:33:24.056
implementation of service delivery

01:33:24.080 --> 01:33:25.816
improvements and for review of their

01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:28.695
impact. On this basis, I would also

01:33:28.719 --> 01:33:30.215
argue for the redirection of the

01:33:30.239 --> 01:33:32.456
proposed $60,000 for engagement and

01:33:32.480 --> 01:33:35.175
legal review towards an enhanced service

01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:36.856
delivery model. Thank you.

01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:39.880
Thank you, Colin. Right on time,

01:33:41.360 --> 01:33:43.976
MK Smith, if you could please start with

01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:45.896
your name, suburb. two minutes and Gia

01:33:45.920 --> 01:33:47.096
Green if you could please make your way

01:33:47.120 --> 01:33:50.120
to the front chair. Over to you MK.

01:33:51.440 --> 01:33:54.440
Sorry, my name is MK Silda. Thank you

01:33:54.480 --> 01:33:56.615
counselors for having me here to be able

01:33:56.639 --> 01:33:59.639
to speak about rough sleeping in Sila.

01:34:00.080 --> 01:34:01.655
So

01:34:01.679 --> 01:34:03.256
I'd like to start off by saying that

01:34:03.280 --> 01:34:05.416
it's not a choice to be homeless and

01:34:05.440 --> 01:34:07.175
whoever who finds theel in that

01:34:07.199 --> 01:34:09.655
situation is very vulnerable and if

01:34:09.679 --> 01:34:11.336
anything when they gather in numbers

01:34:11.360 --> 01:34:14.360
it's a security measure it's not a

01:34:14.960 --> 01:34:17.960
mentality to come and ble or or do

01:34:19.280 --> 01:34:22.280
crime. Now, I've been listen listening

01:34:22.320 --> 01:34:25.320
to both sides of the story. And what I'm

01:34:25.440 --> 01:34:28.056
hearing is that we have

01:34:28.080 --> 01:34:30.456
um homeowners and business owners who

01:34:30.480 --> 01:34:32.215
are frustrated because their investments

01:34:32.239 --> 01:34:34.615
are being, you know, let down. Fair

01:34:34.639 --> 01:34:35.976
enough. And we have people who are

01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:38.615
vulnerable in our society who not fall

01:34:38.639 --> 01:34:41.256
to their own who need more support, feel

01:34:41.280 --> 01:34:44.280
neglected, feel hurt, and basically are

01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:47.096
feel wronged and let down by our

01:34:47.120 --> 01:34:49.655
society. So we have these two sets of

01:34:49.679 --> 01:34:51.016
individuals who are coming together

01:34:51.040 --> 01:34:53.016
angry and all we need is from you

01:34:53.040 --> 01:34:55.655
councils counselors and council City of

01:34:55.679 --> 01:34:57.416
Port Phillip is to bring the

01:34:57.440 --> 01:34:59.816
conversation inward you have the

01:34:59.840 --> 01:35:02.615
resources look at what both sides are

01:35:02.639 --> 01:35:05.639
saying and because we all residents of

01:35:05.760 --> 01:35:08.760
here of this of this beautiful sincer

01:35:09.600 --> 01:35:12.600
suburb we need to be able to you as as c

01:35:13.520 --> 01:35:15.976
the council of City of port Philip you

01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:18.936
have the resources within you to better

01:35:18.960 --> 01:35:21.960
tackle every issue that both sides have

01:35:22.159 --> 01:35:25.159
and in saying that get both sides to sit

01:35:25.199 --> 01:35:27.576
with you and get practical means to deal

01:35:27.600 --> 01:35:29.736
with deal with the situation because we

01:35:29.760 --> 01:35:31.976
all have to live together.

01:35:32.000 --> 01:35:33.496
Furthermore, the people who cause

01:35:33.520 --> 01:35:36.520
trouble in the encampments those are not

01:35:36.800 --> 01:35:38.856
people who live in St Kilda. People who

01:35:38.880 --> 01:35:40.776
love St Kilda are here for the right

01:35:40.800 --> 01:35:42.695
reasons. We love what it is. They love

01:35:42.719 --> 01:35:45.576
it's a multicultural hub. We love like

01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:47.655
all of us can live together and enjoy

01:35:47.679 --> 01:35:50.376
the botanical gardens, the Sila beach,

01:35:50.400 --> 01:35:51.896
you know, all those small things that

01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:53.256
make sila great.

01:35:53.280 --> 01:35:55.016
Thank you MK. We're at time. But thank

01:35:55.040 --> 01:35:58.040
you

01:35:58.239 --> 01:36:00.296
Green

01:36:00.320 --> 01:36:02.615
Suburb 2 minutes and then  Greg Sabay,

01:36:02.639 --> 01:36:03.896
if you could please make your way to the

01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:05.736
front chair as well. Over to you, Jia.

01:36:05.760 --> 01:36:07.655
Starting with name suburb 2.

01:36:07.679 --> 01:36:10.456
Good evening. I'm Gia here in St. Cord.

01:36:10.480 --> 01:36:12.695
I'm here to speak on behalf of a young

01:36:12.719 --> 01:36:15.719
31 transw woman who's resided here from

01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:18.456
New Zealand to Australia,

01:36:18.480 --> 01:36:21.480
lived here for almost 10 years.

01:36:22.159 --> 01:36:25.159
2019, her employment was terminated due

01:36:25.280 --> 01:36:28.280
to co 19 and she's become unemployable.

01:36:28.960 --> 01:36:30.615
Therefore, she is now living and

01:36:30.639 --> 01:36:33.336
experience on the streets of Grey Street

01:36:33.360 --> 01:36:35.416
with surrounded with friends has created

01:36:35.440 --> 01:36:38.440
a new family for her. She's also sleeps

01:36:39.120 --> 01:36:41.416
on grief street. She has now become a

01:36:41.440 --> 01:36:44.440
sex worker to help her financial support

01:36:45.119 --> 01:36:48.119
her throughout her life life choices.

01:36:48.719 --> 01:36:50.695
Two years ago, all her personal

01:36:50.719 --> 01:36:52.536
belongings were confiscated by the

01:36:52.560 --> 01:36:55.016
police and the local laws which held her

01:36:55.040 --> 01:36:57.976
passport, her birth certificate and

01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:01.000
Medicare. So now she is only facing so

01:37:01.679 --> 01:37:04.679
many obstacles to gain her identity but

01:37:05.040 --> 01:37:08.040
living on the streets to this day where

01:37:08.320 --> 01:37:10.615
she believes she is more supported

01:37:10.639 --> 01:37:13.639
surrounded in camps of two and three for

01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:16.920
her safety. She has faced and witnesses

01:37:17.440 --> 01:37:20.440
some incidents at night through young

01:37:20.560 --> 01:37:23.175
men who have come home intoxicated from

01:37:23.199 --> 01:37:26.199
pubs. also youth on scooters vandalizing

01:37:27.520 --> 01:37:29.816
and breaking into cars and damaging

01:37:29.840 --> 01:37:32.376
people's properties. Therefore, not only

01:37:32.400 --> 01:37:34.936
the homeless people should be target or

01:37:34.960 --> 01:37:37.576
judged upon all this vandalism that's

01:37:37.600 --> 01:37:39.416
taken throughout the City of Port

01:37:39.440 --> 01:37:42.440
Phillip. She is now very grateful and

01:37:42.480 --> 01:37:43.976
thankful for the superior support

01:37:44.000 --> 01:37:46.936
workers such as Vixen, Reds, BHN for

01:37:46.960 --> 01:37:48.936
helping her mental health because she is

01:37:48.960 --> 01:37:51.960
now in severe anxiety and is facing a

01:37:52.320 --> 01:37:55.320
lot of mental issues as well. So on her

01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:57.256
behalf, she'd like to take the

01:37:57.280 --> 01:37:59.095
opportunity to thank you and thank

01:37:59.119 --> 01:38:01.256
everyone for her dynamic support and

01:38:01.280 --> 01:38:03.175
please encourage the police and the

01:38:03.199 --> 01:38:06.199
council l to be more respectful to all

01:38:06.719 --> 01:38:08.536
the homelessness and considerate and

01:38:08.560 --> 01:38:10.215
mindful on personal belongings.

01:38:10.239 --> 01:38:13.239
Thank you for your time. Thank you.

01:38:15.280 --> 01:38:17.655
And Greg

01:38:17.679 --> 01:38:20.056
speaking to item 10.1.

01:38:20.080 --> 01:38:20.536
Correct.

01:38:20.560 --> 01:38:21.816
Name suburb and

01:38:21.840 --> 01:38:23.736
my name is Greg Sabir. I've been a

01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:26.760
resident of Elbert Park for 13 years.

01:38:28.080 --> 01:38:30.376
Council Rothearted is is my ward

01:38:30.400 --> 01:38:33.400
counselor and he put a motion to council

01:38:35.199 --> 01:38:37.416
10 months ago

01:38:37.440 --> 01:38:40.215
that proposed to remove the exemptions

01:38:40.239 --> 01:38:42.215
in local camping laws that allow people

01:38:42.239 --> 01:38:43.896
to gather on our streets and cause

01:38:43.920 --> 01:38:46.296
inconvenience and fear to local

01:38:46.320 --> 01:38:49.320
residents. This motion brings City of

01:38:49.440 --> 01:38:51.416
Port Phillip into alignment with all but

01:38:51.440 --> 01:38:54.440
one of the other 79 councils in our

01:38:54.800 --> 01:38:57.800
state. I understand this motion was also

01:38:58.480 --> 01:39:01.480
supported by councilors Mia and Jay.

01:39:02.159 --> 01:39:04.135
Victoria Police supported the motion and

01:39:04.159 --> 01:39:05.576
advised that the problem of street

01:39:05.600 --> 01:39:08.600
encampments will only get worse unless

01:39:08.800 --> 01:39:11.800
the local laws are changed.

01:39:11.840 --> 01:39:13.976
residents strongly supported the motion

01:39:14.000 --> 01:39:16.536
with 2,357

01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:19.416
people who live in Port Phillip signing

01:39:19.440 --> 01:39:22.135
the safer streets petition which

01:39:22.159 --> 01:39:24.536
advocates for the removal of the camping

01:39:24.560 --> 01:39:26.456
exemptions.

01:39:26.480 --> 01:39:28.695
Community safety and amenity is a major

01:39:28.719 --> 01:39:31.719
priority for all residents.

01:39:31.760 --> 01:39:34.056
Council supported the community panel

01:39:34.080 --> 01:39:36.296
earlier this year which highlighted

01:39:36.320 --> 01:39:39.016
community safety as a key priority in

01:39:39.040 --> 01:39:42.040
the council plan. In February, over 300

01:39:42.639 --> 01:39:44.695
people marched in Fitzroy and Aklland

01:39:44.719 --> 01:39:47.719
Street in support of safety and amenity.

01:39:48.159 --> 01:39:49.976
Vic Paul have now signed off on

01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:52.056
protocols that allow local war officers

01:39:52.080 --> 01:39:54.615
and police to remove camping equipment

01:39:54.639 --> 01:39:56.456
to manage antisocial behaviors

01:39:56.480 --> 01:39:59.256
associated with street encampments. The

01:39:59.280 --> 01:40:01.095
three motions put for a vote later

01:40:01.119 --> 01:40:03.416
tonight don't address the issue and

01:40:03.440 --> 01:40:05.896
don't offer councelor Hardy's motion as

01:40:05.920 --> 01:40:08.695
an option. If the six councilors who had

01:40:08.719 --> 01:40:10.776
procrastinated for 10 months don't

01:40:10.800 --> 01:40:13.175
support this logical change,

01:40:13.199 --> 01:40:15.175
how can you claim listen to your

01:40:15.199 --> 01:40:15.896
community

01:40:15.920 --> 01:40:17.416
grounds?

01:40:17.440 --> 01:40:19.016
On

01:40:19.040 --> 01:40:20.296
matter of fact, there was no

01:40:20.320 --> 01:40:21.095
procrastination.

01:40:21.119 --> 01:40:24.119
All right.

01:40:26.480 --> 01:40:28.615
 I assume the speaker's finished

01:40:28.639 --> 01:40:30.376
anyway. So thank you.

01:40:30.400 --> 01:40:31.896
 point of order as well. 

01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:33.416
we can't point of order. A point of

01:40:33.440 --> 01:40:35.416
point of order the speaker. What do we

01:40:35.440 --> 01:40:37.976
fact? Because all nine councils actually

01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:40.135
 supported the motion at time to go.

01:40:40.159 --> 01:40:41.336
So not just three.

01:40:41.360 --> 01:40:42.615
We can always go back through the

01:40:42.639 --> 01:40:45.336
minutes. All right. That concludes 

01:40:45.360 --> 01:40:47.175
public submissions and speaking to those

01:40:47.199 --> 01:40:48.856
items. Councilors, do we have any

01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:51.336
questions for items not on the agenda

01:40:51.360 --> 01:40:54.360
for this evening?

01:40:55.840 --> 01:40:58.840
No questions. All right, let's have a

01:40:59.040 --> 01:41:02.040
fiveminut break. I know  many of us in

01:41:02.080 --> 01:41:03.655
the public are keen to see the rest of

01:41:03.679 --> 01:41:05.576
the agenda. So, we will have a 5m minute

01:41:05.600 --> 01:41:08.600
break. My clock here says 12 8. We'll

01:41:08.639 --> 01:41:11.639
come back at 17 8.

01:41:16.880 --> 01:41:19.336
We are now up to item six, petitions,

01:41:19.360 --> 01:41:21.416
joint leaders, and deputations. So we

01:41:21.440 --> 01:41:24.376
have one petition on tonight's agenda

01:41:24.400 --> 01:41:26.936
and  one petition as we said that was

01:41:26.960 --> 01:41:29.960
lodged for um against item 10.2. So the

01:41:30.800 --> 01:41:32.376
petition that we are going to be

01:41:32.400 --> 01:41:34.695
considering under item six is the

01:41:34.719 --> 01:41:36.936
continuation of social inclusion funding

01:41:36.960 --> 01:41:39.960
for 2627. Councilors are there any

01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:43.000
questions to this item?

01:41:43.840 --> 01:41:46.456
Councelor Holidayiday.  thank you

01:41:46.480 --> 01:41:48.615
mayor. We've heard from a couple of 

01:41:48.639 --> 01:41:49.976
community members tonight about the

01:41:50.000 --> 01:41:51.655
social inclusion funding and the value

01:41:51.679 --> 01:41:54.679
of this. Um can we please get some um

01:41:56.000 --> 01:41:59.000
clarity from officers? Um what funding

01:41:59.840 --> 01:42:02.456
is ceasing and what activities will

01:42:02.480 --> 01:42:05.480
continue in um  after the  cease or

01:42:08.239 --> 01:42:09.896
you know after the changes to the

01:42:09.920 --> 01:42:12.296
funding arrangements for the social

01:42:12.320 --> 01:42:15.320
inclusion  program. I refer that to

01:42:16.000 --> 01:42:17.736
Kylie Bennett, the general manager of

01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:18.936
community wellbeing.

01:42:18.960 --> 01:42:21.576
Through you, mayor. Council has not yet,

01:42:21.600 --> 01:42:24.215
so I stress it hasn't yet um made a

01:42:24.239 --> 01:42:26.615
decision on this important matter. It

01:42:26.639 --> 01:42:29.016
has concluded its engagement and the

01:42:29.040 --> 01:42:31.336
petition before you tonight will form

01:42:31.360 --> 01:42:33.576
part of council's considerations early

01:42:33.600 --> 01:42:35.896
in 2026.

01:42:35.920 --> 01:42:38.615
 this service is a commonwealth funded

01:42:38.639 --> 01:42:40.776
program that council is contracted to

01:42:40.800 --> 01:42:42.776
deliver. So, it's not council funding,

01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:45.800
but it is a a Commonwealth contract. And

01:42:46.000 --> 01:42:49.000
if council decides  to relinquish

01:42:49.040 --> 01:42:50.936
providing this service back to the

01:42:50.960 --> 01:42:53.016
Commonwealth, the Commonwealth would

01:42:53.040 --> 01:42:55.896
appoint and fund a panel of providers to

01:42:55.920 --> 01:42:58.615
meet social connection needs. And that

01:42:58.639 --> 01:43:01.416
would occur in a similar way  as the

01:43:01.440 --> 01:43:04.440
transition  to other council funded 

01:43:05.199 --> 01:43:07.496
aged care services by the Commonwealth

01:43:07.520 --> 01:43:10.520
that occurred a few years ago.

01:43:10.800 --> 01:43:12.296
Any further questions? Councelor

01:43:12.320 --> 01:43:13.416
Crawford.

01:43:13.440 --> 01:43:16.296
Um C can I not clarify then though we

01:43:16.320 --> 01:43:17.816
are considering as part of that

01:43:17.840 --> 01:43:20.840
consultation expanding some of our own

01:43:20.960 --> 01:43:23.336
um like n linking neighborhoods and

01:43:23.360 --> 01:43:25.576
social programs that would be open to

01:43:25.600 --> 01:43:27.655
everyone in the community not just those

01:43:27.679 --> 01:43:29.576
on home packages. Is that not what we're

01:43:29.600 --> 01:43:32.376
also consulting on?

01:43:32.400 --> 01:43:34.296
Over to Kylie Bennett, general manager

01:43:34.320 --> 01:43:35.095
community wellbeing.

01:43:35.119 --> 01:43:36.615
 through you mayor. Yes, that's

01:43:36.639 --> 01:43:39.095
correct.  so the proposal that council

01:43:39.119 --> 01:43:41.655
engaged on would see council increase

01:43:41.679 --> 01:43:43.976
its direct investment in council funded

01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:47.000
aged care services by around $100,000

01:43:47.600 --> 01:43:50.536
perom bringing council's investment 

01:43:50.560 --> 01:43:53.496
to around $465,000

01:43:53.520 --> 01:43:56.520
perom. The proposal engaged on 

01:43:57.040 --> 01:43:59.175
included creating a new positive aging

01:43:59.199 --> 01:44:01.175
unit to bring together all council

01:44:01.199 --> 01:44:03.655
services and supports for older people

01:44:03.679 --> 01:44:06.296
into one dedicated area of council

01:44:06.320 --> 01:44:09.095
including seniors month activities. It

01:44:09.119 --> 01:44:12.119
also included council's  well-

01:44:12.480 --> 01:44:14.615
reggarded community connector service,

01:44:14.639 --> 01:44:17.095
hop- on hop off bus service and an

01:44:17.119 --> 01:44:20.119
expanded link king neighbors program. 

01:44:20.400 --> 01:44:22.296
if the proposal was to go ahead, it

01:44:22.320 --> 01:44:24.296
would provide an opportunity to also

01:44:24.320 --> 01:44:26.215
enable those older members of the Port

01:44:26.239 --> 01:44:28.456
Phillip community who fall outside of

01:44:28.480 --> 01:44:30.376
the current Commonwealth eligibility

01:44:30.400 --> 01:44:33.400
criteria to participate in activities.

01:44:33.760 --> 01:44:35.416
Councelor Buckingham or you had a

01:44:35.440 --> 01:44:37.496
question? No.  councelor Holidayiday,

01:44:37.520 --> 01:44:38.776
did you have a further question? Any

01:44:38.800 --> 01:44:41.175
other councelor Tamman?

01:44:41.199 --> 01:44:42.695
Yeah. In terms of funding, are we

01:44:42.719 --> 01:44:44.536
talking about this financial year or we

01:44:44.560 --> 01:44:46.615
talking about the financial year, the

01:44:46.639 --> 01:44:49.016
next financial year?  through you,

01:44:49.040 --> 01:44:51.816
mayor.  so council will consider 

01:44:51.840 --> 01:44:54.840
this proposal  early in 2026.

01:44:55.920 --> 01:44:58.920
 if council was  to agree to step

01:44:59.040 --> 01:45:01.336
back and transition,  there is a

01:45:01.360 --> 01:45:03.976
requirement for a transition period of 4

01:45:04.000 --> 01:45:06.536
to 5 months. So the funding would be in

01:45:06.560 --> 01:45:09.560
the 26 27  budget year.

01:45:10.719 --> 01:45:13.719
Any further further questions?

01:45:15.520 --> 01:45:16.776
Can I move the petition?

01:45:16.800 --> 01:45:18.456
You may move the petition. So move

01:45:18.480 --> 01:45:20.456
councelor Holidayiday seconded councelor

01:45:20.480 --> 01:45:23.480
Crawford. Does he mover a wish to speak?

01:45:26.480 --> 01:45:27.736
 I'd just like to thank the

01:45:27.760 --> 01:45:30.135
petitioners for this and understand that

01:45:30.159 --> 01:45:33.159
there's a bit of um

01:45:33.199 --> 01:45:36.135
it's very complex this area at the

01:45:36.159 --> 01:45:38.936
moment and obviously um you know um the

01:45:38.960 --> 01:45:41.960
community members are are very fond of

01:45:42.000 --> 01:45:45.000
these  services. So I think we need to

01:45:45.280 --> 01:45:47.016
um hopefully communicate very clearly

01:45:47.040 --> 01:45:49.175
about what's changing and what's staying

01:45:49.199 --> 01:45:52.199
the same if we if we go down this path.

01:45:52.320 --> 01:45:55.320
Um and  again as 

01:45:58.320 --> 01:46:01.320
 we indicated um we're also looking at

01:46:01.520 --> 01:46:03.256
other ways that we can continue to

01:46:03.280 --> 01:46:06.280
support our  aged community members um

01:46:06.639 --> 01:46:09.639
alongside  you know through any

01:46:10.239 --> 01:46:12.135
changes that may happen. So again, want

01:46:12.159 --> 01:46:13.736
to thank the petitioners and hope that

01:46:13.760 --> 01:46:16.760
we can um continue to   continue to

01:46:18.800 --> 01:46:21.256
inform these community members as we go

01:46:21.280 --> 01:46:23.896
through this process.

01:46:23.920 --> 01:46:25.976
Thank you. Second,

01:46:26.000 --> 01:46:28.376
any other councilors wish to speak to

01:46:28.400 --> 01:46:30.695
this item?

01:46:30.719 --> 01:46:32.936
Does the No other counselors wish to

01:46:32.960 --> 01:46:35.496
speak? Does the mover wish to close? In

01:46:35.520 --> 01:46:38.376
which case, we will put the motion. All

01:46:38.400 --> 01:46:40.936
those in favor

01:46:40.960 --> 01:46:43.960
that is carried unanimously. Thank you.

01:46:46.400 --> 01:46:49.400
To now the presentation of officer

01:46:49.840 --> 01:46:51.576
reports

01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:54.600
starting with item 8.1 the homelessness

01:46:54.960 --> 01:46:57.496
and affordable housing strategy. Are

01:46:57.520 --> 01:46:59.256
there any questions for officers for

01:46:59.280 --> 01:47:02.280
this item?

01:47:04.960 --> 01:47:07.960
No questions for officers.

01:47:11.520 --> 01:47:13.256
And I understand there's an officer

01:47:13.280 --> 01:47:16.280
amendment on this item. So, , if Karly

01:47:16.320 --> 01:47:18.135
Bennett, general manager of committee

01:47:18.159 --> 01:47:19.576
wellbeing, would talk through that

01:47:19.600 --> 01:47:20.215
amendment.

01:47:20.239 --> 01:47:22.615
, through you, mayor. It's a a very

01:47:22.639 --> 01:47:25.416
minor, , correction, typographical

01:47:25.440 --> 01:47:27.976
correction, um, to amend it to the

01:47:28.000 --> 01:47:30.215
homelessness and affordable housing

01:47:30.239 --> 01:47:32.215
engagement. In the printed agenda, it

01:47:32.239 --> 01:47:34.936
had the community safety engagement.

01:47:34.960 --> 01:47:36.296
Great.

01:47:36.320 --> 01:47:38.615
 we've no there's no questions from

01:47:38.639 --> 01:47:40.695
councilors. Therefore, there is an item

01:47:40.719 --> 01:47:43.256
before us. Do we have a mover for this

01:47:43.280 --> 01:47:45.256
recommendation? That is moved councelor

01:47:45.280 --> 01:47:47.496
Deputy Mayor Mears and seconded councelor

01:47:47.520 --> 01:47:50.215
Buckingham. Does the mover wish to

01:47:50.239 --> 01:47:53.175
speak?

01:47:53.199 --> 01:47:55.336
No. Thank you, mayor.

01:47:55.360 --> 01:47:57.816
Does the second wish to speak?

01:47:57.840 --> 01:47:59.256
Yes, please.

01:47:59.280 --> 01:48:00.776
May.

01:48:00.800 --> 01:48:02.776
 this is a real milestone for the City

01:48:02.800 --> 01:48:05.576
of Port Phillip having  worked on this

01:48:05.600 --> 01:48:08.296
strategy for some time and I'd like to

01:48:08.320 --> 01:48:10.695
acknowledge and thank all the members of

01:48:10.719 --> 01:48:12.615
our community that participated in the

01:48:12.639 --> 01:48:15.256
engagement process to shape up this

01:48:15.280 --> 01:48:17.256
strategy and also acknowledge the hard

01:48:17.280 --> 01:48:20.280
work of the service providers um that we

01:48:20.320 --> 01:48:23.320
are part funding through this strategy.

01:48:23.840 --> 01:48:26.615
I think it's um one of the things I've

01:48:26.639 --> 01:48:29.639
heard really clearly is that addressing

01:48:30.480 --> 01:48:33.480
homelessness in particular is primarily

01:48:33.520 --> 01:48:35.256
about creating more beds and more safe

01:48:35.280 --> 01:48:37.256
hoMears, but it's also about supporting

01:48:37.280 --> 01:48:40.280
people to maintain tenencies. And this

01:48:40.480 --> 01:48:43.016
strategy

01:48:43.040 --> 01:48:46.040
acknowledges that important activity

01:48:46.480 --> 01:48:48.296
that many of our community service

01:48:48.320 --> 01:48:51.016
organizations in Port Phillip are doing

01:48:51.040 --> 01:48:54.040
on without much resourcing. And so I'm

01:48:54.560 --> 01:48:56.936
very proud that we're allocating

01:48:56.960 --> 01:48:58.376
additional resourcing to those

01:48:58.400 --> 01:49:00.376
organizations to continue doing this

01:49:00.400 --> 01:49:02.215
incredibly important work that keeps

01:49:02.239 --> 01:49:05.239
people in  safe hoMears.

01:49:05.840 --> 01:49:08.215
Thank you, Councelor Holidayiday.

01:49:08.239 --> 01:49:10.056
 thank you, man. Thank you, Councelor

01:49:10.080 --> 01:49:12.615
Buckingham. , I'd like to propose an

01:49:12.639 --> 01:49:15.639
amendment to the recommendation here.

01:49:16.159 --> 01:49:18.615
And if you could please go through that

01:49:18.639 --> 01:49:19.976
amendment.

01:49:20.000 --> 01:49:20.936
It's on the screen.

01:49:20.960 --> 01:49:23.416
This is going to be fun. Um, going to

01:49:23.440 --> 01:49:25.336
turn around here. , thank you. Do I

01:49:25.360 --> 01:49:27.736
need to read this out?

01:49:27.760 --> 01:49:30.760
Okay. , thank you. , sorry.

01:49:32.239 --> 01:49:35.239
The the amendment here um starts with 

01:49:36.159 --> 01:49:39.159
3.7 prioritize delivery of action 3.2 to

01:49:40.239 --> 01:49:42.135
identify council land for partnerships

01:49:42.159 --> 01:49:44.135
with community housing providers

01:49:44.159 --> 01:49:45.816
including development of an expression

01:49:45.840 --> 01:49:47.336
of interest process for community

01:49:47.360 --> 01:49:49.655
housing providers to propose affordable

01:49:49.679 --> 01:49:51.896
and social housing projects in the City

01:49:51.920 --> 01:49:54.456
in Port Phillip using council land or

01:49:54.480 --> 01:49:55.976
facilities.

01:49:56.000 --> 01:49:57.976
 identified sites would be tested with

01:49:58.000 --> 01:50:00.615
council and an any EOI would be subject

01:50:00.639 --> 01:50:03.639
to a further council decision. 3.8

01:50:04.159 --> 01:50:06.296
report back to council on an outline of

01:50:06.320 --> 01:50:08.695
work seeking to understand the extent of

01:50:08.719 --> 01:50:11.016
non-house  non-hosted shortstay

01:50:11.040 --> 01:50:12.776
accommodation in Port Phillip and

01:50:12.800 --> 01:50:14.536
options for implementing a revenue

01:50:14.560 --> 01:50:17.256
positive fee charge or rates mechanism

01:50:17.280 --> 01:50:19.976
on non-housed shortstay accommodation

01:50:20.000 --> 01:50:21.655
seeking to ensure that these do not

01:50:21.679 --> 01:50:23.976
displace long-term residents or increase

01:50:24.000 --> 01:50:27.000
rents.  3.9 report back to council on

01:50:27.440 --> 01:50:29.816
options for changes to council's

01:50:29.840 --> 01:50:32.056
developer contribution mechanism to

01:50:32.080 --> 01:50:33.976
increase the open space levy to ensure

01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:36.296
equitable access to open space across

01:50:36.320 --> 01:50:39.175
the City of Port Phillip.  3.9.2 two,

01:50:39.199 --> 01:50:41.816
sorry,  here, implement a developer

01:50:41.840 --> 01:50:43.896
contribution to support council

01:50:43.920 --> 01:50:46.920
infrastructure costs. And 3.9.3,

01:50:47.280 --> 01:50:49.816
implement an affordable housing levy on

01:50:49.840 --> 01:50:51.736
developments that don't meet a minimum

01:50:51.760 --> 01:50:53.655
threshold of affordable or social

01:50:53.679 --> 01:50:56.679
housing. And 3.10 10. In addition to the

01:50:58.800 --> 01:51:01.016
action in the housing strategy to amend

01:51:01.040 --> 01:51:03.336
City of Port Phillips planning scheme to

01:51:03.360 --> 01:51:05.256
set a voluntary target of 10% of

01:51:05.280 --> 01:51:07.655
dwelling of new dwellings in future

01:51:07.679 --> 01:51:09.736
developments as affordable housing

01:51:09.760 --> 01:51:12.296
pending council approval,

01:51:12.320 --> 01:51:14.695
report back to council on further

01:51:14.719 --> 01:51:16.536
mechanisms to increase delivery of

01:51:16.560 --> 01:51:18.536
affordable housing in Port Phillip,

01:51:18.560 --> 01:51:20.615
including mandatory and voluntary

01:51:20.639 --> 01:51:23.416
mechanisms. Ph.

01:51:23.440 --> 01:51:24.776
That's your amendment. Is there a

01:51:24.800 --> 01:51:27.095
second? Thank you, Councelor Crawford.

01:51:27.119 --> 01:51:30.119
There is a seconder.  does the mover

01:51:30.880 --> 01:51:33.496
of the amendment wish to speak to it?

01:51:33.520 --> 01:51:36.520
Yes. Thank you, Mayor. Um

01:51:38.000 --> 01:51:40.776
the the work that we already see here on

01:51:40.800 --> 01:51:43.800
the affordable housing strategy  and

01:51:44.960 --> 01:51:47.575
the homelessness strategy

01:51:47.599 --> 01:51:50.599
is um incredibly deep and incredibly bor

01:51:50.800 --> 01:51:53.800
broad.  and these amendments here seek

01:51:54.880 --> 01:51:57.175
to elevate some of the actions that are

01:51:57.199 --> 01:51:59.416
already in there and expand on other

01:51:59.440 --> 01:52:02.440
actions and fill several gaps that we

01:52:02.719 --> 01:52:05.719
have in um in our council activities in

01:52:06.159 --> 01:52:09.159
this area. The the four main aspects of

01:52:09.920 --> 01:52:12.920
this are seeking to um

01:52:13.840 --> 01:52:16.456
enable and accelerate partnerships with

01:52:16.480 --> 01:52:18.936
our community housing providers where we

01:52:18.960 --> 01:52:21.960
have you know what we call lazy land or

01:52:22.159 --> 01:52:23.736
council facilities that might be

01:52:23.760 --> 01:52:25.736
redeveloped  that we might be seeking

01:52:25.760 --> 01:52:27.896
to redevelop in the future where they

01:52:27.920 --> 01:52:30.456
can incorporate housing into the future.

01:52:30.480 --> 01:52:33.095
Um the second aspect of it is looking at

01:52:33.119 --> 01:52:35.095
the impact of shortstay accommodation.

01:52:35.119 --> 01:52:37.016
This is non-hosted shortst stay

01:52:37.040 --> 01:52:39.655
accommodation where um where that might

01:52:39.679 --> 01:52:42.456
be displacing long-term renters from our

01:52:42.480 --> 01:52:45.480
our City. Um the third action looks at

01:52:46.080 --> 01:52:49.080
 some of the revenue options and

01:52:49.119 --> 01:52:52.119
levies that we have  to ensure that

01:52:52.880 --> 01:52:55.095
everyone in our City has access to

01:52:55.119 --> 01:52:58.119
public open space and that we keep our

01:52:58.639 --> 01:53:00.456
housing affordable here in the City of

01:53:00.480 --> 01:53:02.376
Port Phillip and in the longer term that

01:53:02.400 --> 01:53:05.400
we have um the revenues to maintain our

01:53:06.719 --> 01:53:08.936
infrastructure, our storm water drains,

01:53:08.960 --> 01:53:11.575
our parks, our footpaths in the face of

01:53:11.599 --> 01:53:13.416
a densification

01:53:13.440 --> 01:53:16.215
um of our population over the years. Um

01:53:16.239 --> 01:53:18.536
and finally

01:53:18.560 --> 01:53:21.560
looking at mechanisms that will  will

01:53:22.000 --> 01:53:24.536
actually get us more affordable housing

01:53:24.560 --> 01:53:26.376
in our commercial developments. At the

01:53:26.400 --> 01:53:27.976
moment we have a voluntary scheme that

01:53:28.000 --> 01:53:31.000
operates in in um in fisherman's ben and

01:53:31.520 --> 01:53:33.736
as a voluntary scheme it often falls

01:53:33.760 --> 01:53:35.816
short of um what we would like for that

01:53:35.840 --> 01:53:38.376
and we've heard just today um from the

01:53:38.400 --> 01:53:40.615
state government that there are

01:53:40.639 --> 01:53:43.416
hopefully new powers coming in for um

01:53:43.440 --> 01:53:46.440
for  levy putting in place a levy for

01:53:46.800 --> 01:53:49.256
affordable housing. But I think that as

01:53:49.280 --> 01:53:52.280
a as a package, these amendments support

01:53:53.280 --> 01:53:55.256
our intent of the homelessness and

01:53:55.280 --> 01:53:58.056
affordable housing strategy in providing

01:53:58.080 --> 01:54:01.080
more housing here in the City of Port

01:54:01.119 --> 01:54:03.336
Phillip that is more affordable for more

01:54:03.360 --> 01:54:05.095
people and keeping those people in

01:54:05.119 --> 01:54:07.575
houses and providing more houses for

01:54:07.599 --> 01:54:08.936
people. Thank you.

01:54:08.960 --> 01:54:10.376
Thank you, Council Holiday. Does the

01:54:10.400 --> 01:54:12.215
second wish to speak to the amendment?

01:54:12.239 --> 01:54:14.615
Oh, just briefly, I think it's a time to

01:54:14.639 --> 01:54:16.536
try and look at every single lever we

01:54:16.560 --> 01:54:18.615
can. Um, if we haven't done it before,

01:54:18.639 --> 01:54:20.296
it's worth looking at right now given

01:54:20.320 --> 01:54:23.320
that  we are in that crisis and and

01:54:23.520 --> 01:54:25.336
all levels of government need to do what

01:54:25.360 --> 01:54:27.175
we can and these are ones we have not

01:54:27.199 --> 01:54:28.456
looked at in the City of Port Phillips.

01:54:28.480 --> 01:54:31.016
I'm happy to support the amendments.

01:54:31.040 --> 01:54:33.256
We have that amendment second. Is there

01:54:33.280 --> 01:54:35.016
any opposition to the amendment that's

01:54:35.040 --> 01:54:36.695
proposed?

01:54:36.719 --> 01:54:39.175
Any other speakers wish to speak to the

01:54:39.199 --> 01:54:42.199
amendment before us?

01:54:43.199 --> 01:54:46.199
No speakers to the sorry  councelor

01:54:46.239 --> 01:54:49.239
Jay.

01:54:49.760 --> 01:54:51.416
Councelor Jay, you may wish to unmute

01:54:51.440 --> 01:54:52.695
yourself.

01:54:52.719 --> 01:54:55.655
Great idea, Mayor. Um

01:54:55.679 --> 01:54:58.679
I um thank you councelor Holidayiday for

01:54:58.719 --> 01:55:01.416
bringing this last minute amendment. Um

01:55:01.440 --> 01:55:03.496
I think investigating

01:55:03.520 --> 01:55:06.520
is always um a a great first step. I

01:55:07.679 --> 01:55:09.416
just want to point out the City of Port

01:55:09.440 --> 01:55:12.376
Phillip goes above and beyond um what

01:55:12.400 --> 01:55:14.936
they need to to look after our our

01:55:14.960 --> 01:55:16.695
residents when it coMears to housing and

01:55:16.719 --> 01:55:19.719
this is another example of where um um

01:55:20.239 --> 01:55:22.936
we we step in where state has failed in

01:55:22.960 --> 01:55:24.615
order to provide these things for our

01:55:24.639 --> 01:55:27.256
community. So I will support Justin's

01:55:27.280 --> 01:55:29.256
amendment tonight.

01:55:29.280 --> 01:55:32.280
Any other speakers who wish to speak to

01:55:32.639 --> 01:55:34.376
the amendment before us? Councelor

01:55:34.400 --> 01:55:35.816
Hardy,

01:55:35.840 --> 01:55:38.840
just a a short statement in relation to

01:55:38.880 --> 01:55:40.695
affordable housing goes hand inhand with

01:55:40.719 --> 01:55:42.456
the cost of living crisis and maybe we

01:55:42.480 --> 01:55:44.135
should concentrate on that as well, but

01:55:44.159 --> 01:55:45.896
I'll we'll support council holiday's

01:55:45.920 --> 01:55:47.976
amendment.

01:55:48.000 --> 01:55:50.536
Any other speakers who wish to discuss

01:55:50.560 --> 01:55:53.560
the amendment before us?

01:55:54.080 --> 01:55:56.936
No other speakers. In which case does

01:55:56.960 --> 01:55:59.575
the mover wish to close?

01:55:59.599 --> 01:56:01.575
In which case we shall put the

01:56:01.599 --> 01:56:04.599
amendment. All those in favor.

01:56:07.040 --> 01:56:09.175
That looks like it's unanimous. So the

01:56:09.199 --> 01:56:12.056
amendment now becoMears the substantive

01:56:12.080 --> 01:56:15.080
motion.

01:56:15.520 --> 01:56:18.456
 we have had the mover and the second

01:56:18.480 --> 01:56:20.135
to the substantive. Are there any other

01:56:20.159 --> 01:56:22.215
councilors that now wish to speak to the

01:56:22.239 --> 01:56:25.095
substantive motion before us? Councelor

01:56:25.119 --> 01:56:27.655
Tamman.

01:56:27.679 --> 01:56:29.336
The City of Port Phillip and in fact the

01:56:29.360 --> 01:56:31.256
City of St. Kilda back then has got a

01:56:31.280 --> 01:56:34.056
proud history of  being  at the

01:56:34.080 --> 01:56:36.936
forefront of of housing affordable

01:56:36.960 --> 01:56:39.016
housing and  I think we all proud of

01:56:39.040 --> 01:56:41.976
that. Um when you actually look at all

01:56:42.000 --> 01:56:44.215
the properties that are considered

01:56:44.239 --> 01:56:46.376
affordable housing  you know it is

01:56:46.400 --> 01:56:49.400
actually great that we we have kept that

01:56:50.159 --> 01:56:52.456
going. I know a lot of people might say

01:56:52.480 --> 01:56:54.856
that housing is not a council issue.

01:56:54.880 --> 01:56:56.936
It's a state issue or federal issue.

01:56:56.960 --> 01:56:58.856
Housing is everybody's issue. So I think

01:56:58.880 --> 01:57:01.416
it's important that council plays its

01:57:01.440 --> 01:57:04.056
part when it coMears to affordable housing

01:57:04.080 --> 01:57:07.016
and I'm proud that this City has done

01:57:07.040 --> 01:57:10.040
all the work for 40 50 years. Thank you

01:57:11.920 --> 01:57:14.215
councelor Tim does councelor Holidayiday

01:57:14.239 --> 01:57:15.736
you're speaking now to the substantive

01:57:15.760 --> 01:57:16.615
point.

01:57:16.639 --> 01:57:18.695
Yeah I just want to quickly draw um

01:57:18.719 --> 01:57:21.336
people's attention to  this council's

01:57:21.360 --> 01:57:24.360
recommitment to um financial investment

01:57:24.719 --> 01:57:27.719
in housing. It was um not looking good

01:57:28.880 --> 01:57:31.575
 last year.  and I am incredibly

01:57:31.599 --> 01:57:33.976
proud to be part of a council that has

01:57:34.000 --> 01:57:36.135
recommitted itself to that housing. And

01:57:36.159 --> 01:57:39.159
you can see here  the areas where we

01:57:39.199 --> 01:57:42.199
are spending some of that  funding

01:57:42.639 --> 01:57:45.416
this year um to S Kilda Community

01:57:45.440 --> 01:57:48.440
Housing to some of our um  most needy

01:57:50.719 --> 01:57:53.719
residents. Um the 

01:57:55.840 --> 01:57:58.840
to Bridget um to again help young young

01:57:59.119 --> 01:58:02.119
women who are homeless um to Southport

01:58:02.719 --> 01:58:05.655
Community Housing um who provide housing

01:58:05.679 --> 01:58:08.679
here in the City to Southside Justice 

01:58:09.280 --> 01:58:11.496
for their service that will help keep

01:58:11.520 --> 01:58:14.520
people in houses to help them with legal

01:58:14.960 --> 01:58:17.960
support in that area. Um and finally the

01:58:19.440 --> 01:58:21.095
the extra money that we're looking at

01:58:21.119 --> 01:58:24.119
here for some of our other areas um 

01:58:24.480 --> 01:58:26.615
where we will be using that extra money

01:58:26.639 --> 01:58:29.496
to identify these assets we have this

01:58:29.520 --> 01:58:31.655
lazy land these facilities where we

01:58:31.679 --> 01:58:33.256
might partner with community housing

01:58:33.280 --> 01:58:35.816
providers to uplift the amount of um

01:58:35.840 --> 01:58:38.296
community housing of affordable housing

01:58:38.320 --> 01:58:41.320
here in the City. These are these are um

01:58:41.440 --> 01:58:43.896
financial investments that show our

01:58:43.920 --> 01:58:45.896
commitment to  housing here in the

01:58:45.920 --> 01:58:47.175
City of Port Phillip.

01:58:47.199 --> 01:58:48.695
Thank you councelor Holidayiday. Any

01:58:48.719 --> 01:58:51.016
other councilors wish to speak to the

01:58:51.040 --> 01:58:54.040
the substantive motion before us?

01:58:55.520 --> 01:58:57.736
Councelor Crawford.

01:58:57.760 --> 01:58:59.655
Just very briefly again this is a little

01:58:59.679 --> 01:59:02.456
bit of a different kind of um the

01:59:02.480 --> 01:59:04.695
housing and homelessness  strategy

01:59:04.719 --> 01:59:07.016
being brought together and in the past

01:59:07.040 --> 01:59:09.175
sort of decade a lot of the money that

01:59:09.199 --> 01:59:11.175
the council has provided has gone

01:59:11.199 --> 01:59:13.816
towards bricks and mortar um and that

01:59:13.840 --> 01:59:15.816
co-investment with um housing

01:59:15.840 --> 01:59:18.215
associations. This one right now I think

01:59:18.239 --> 01:59:20.056
where we're at we identified as a

01:59:20.080 --> 01:59:22.056
council that perhaps needs for support

01:59:22.080 --> 01:59:24.695
for services. So more um investment with

01:59:24.719 --> 01:59:26.536
those already great organizations doing

01:59:26.560 --> 01:59:29.560
work to help them do more um and sustain

01:59:29.679 --> 01:59:31.816
themselves we felt was a a good model.

01:59:31.840 --> 01:59:34.135
So it is a slightly different funding

01:59:34.159 --> 01:59:36.695
focus um for now but obviously looking

01:59:36.719 --> 01:59:38.856
to increase the number of houses but 

01:59:38.880 --> 01:59:41.880
and hoMears but um I I do think that that

01:59:42.080 --> 01:59:44.456
is an important step we've taken this

01:59:44.480 --> 01:59:47.336
time and especially um we know how many

01:59:47.360 --> 01:59:49.336
people are in need in different ways and

01:59:49.360 --> 01:59:51.175
if we can help with outreach the

01:59:51.199 --> 01:59:53.095
connecting into services you know more

01:59:53.119 --> 01:59:55.095
more supports for people to stay in

01:59:55.119 --> 01:59:57.016
their current hoMears and we know that

01:59:57.040 --> 01:59:58.776
that's probably the best focus for the

01:59:58.800 --> 02:00:00.056
council right now.

02:00:00.080 --> 02:00:01.736
Thank you councelor Crawford. Any other

02:00:01.760 --> 02:00:04.760
speakers to the motion before us?

02:00:05.280 --> 02:00:06.936
I'm going to accept that silence.

02:00:06.960 --> 02:00:08.936
There's no further speakers. So, does

02:00:08.960 --> 02:00:11.496
the mover wish to close? That is C.

02:00:11.520 --> 02:00:13.816
Deputy Mayor Mears.

02:00:13.840 --> 02:00:16.840
No, I don't. Thank you. Well put. ,

02:00:17.360 --> 02:00:19.416
Deputy Mayor Mears. So, that motion is now

02:00:19.440 --> 02:00:22.376
put. If we can show all in favor of the

02:00:22.400 --> 02:00:25.400
motion before us,

02:00:25.599 --> 02:00:28.599
that motion is carried unanimously.

02:00:34.880 --> 02:00:37.880
That brings us now to item 10.1, feel

02:00:38.000 --> 02:00:39.896
safe, be safe, the community safety plan

02:00:39.920 --> 02:00:42.920
for 25 to 29.

02:00:42.960 --> 02:00:45.960
Any  questions from councilors for the

02:00:46.320 --> 02:00:49.320
item before us?

02:00:50.560 --> 02:00:53.560
H no questions. We have a recommendation

02:00:55.520 --> 02:00:57.256
before us. Is there a counselor that

02:00:57.280 --> 02:01:00.135
wishes to move the recommendation or

02:01:00.159 --> 02:01:03.159
something different?

02:01:03.679 --> 02:01:06.296
I am seeing councelor Holidayiday and

02:01:06.320 --> 02:01:09.320
councelor Timman. Does the mover wish to

02:01:11.599 --> 02:01:14.599
speak?

02:01:15.679 --> 02:01:18.679
The mover does not wish to speak.

02:01:18.960 --> 02:01:21.175
All right.

02:01:21.199 --> 02:01:24.199
 does the secondary wish to speak? Um

02:01:27.119 --> 02:01:30.119
obviously um community safety is a big

02:01:30.159 --> 02:01:33.159
issue. Um it was a big issue at the last

02:01:33.199 --> 02:01:36.199
council elections and  we've grappled

02:01:36.320 --> 02:01:38.695
with this issue for the last 12 months

02:01:38.719 --> 02:01:41.719
and  we've heard a lot from everybody.

02:01:43.679 --> 02:01:46.679
 we the committee round table has been

02:01:46.960 --> 02:01:49.575
a success in terms of bringing all the

02:01:49.599 --> 02:01:52.296
organizations together and working

02:01:52.320 --> 02:01:54.936
together. I know some people say we

02:01:54.960 --> 02:01:57.575
haven't we haven't necessarily seen the

02:01:57.599 --> 02:02:00.215
fruits of the work and that was put in

02:02:00.239 --> 02:02:03.239
at the time but these things take time

02:02:03.520 --> 02:02:06.520
and I believe that there's progress even

02:02:07.760 --> 02:02:09.655
if maybe not as visible as people would

02:02:09.679 --> 02:02:12.679
like it to be. Um

02:02:12.719 --> 02:02:14.856
this is

02:02:14.880 --> 02:02:17.880
report has been the fruit of a lot of

02:02:18.400 --> 02:02:20.695
engagements a lot of emails petitions

02:02:20.719 --> 02:02:22.376
etc

02:02:22.400 --> 02:02:25.175
and I think you know we can't cover

02:02:25.199 --> 02:02:28.199
everything and council can deal with

02:02:28.400 --> 02:02:31.400
every issue but I believe that  there

02:02:31.440 --> 02:02:34.440
is a firm commitment from this council

02:02:35.280 --> 02:02:38.280
to do whatever it can to um improve comm

02:02:40.400 --> 02:02:42.536
community safety or perception of

02:02:42.560 --> 02:02:45.256
community safety and I encourage my

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fellow council to support this document

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that  as I said is a fruit of

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consultation with many many many

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providers including people who are

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sleeping rough and are directly affected

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by some of the recommendations. Um I

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thank  the team um that worked on this

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and um have put a lot of effort and we

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certainly have put a lot of effort to

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make sure that the work is done as a

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priority for this council and I will

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reserve you know more things to say in

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item 10.2.

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Thank you councelor Tomman. The second

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has spoken. Are there other is there

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opposition to this motion?

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, yes. If you you're proposing an

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amendment, councelor Buckingham,

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I'd like to propose an amendment. Do we

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have the text? Great.

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Should I read it?

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Yeah. Oh, yes, please. Sorry.

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So the amendment is for council to

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investigate how to improve reporting

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pathways and a potentially streamlined

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contact point for residents and traders

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to report community safety issues that

02:04:02.880 --> 02:04:05.880
are not an emergency in the City of Port

02:04:05.920 --> 02:04:07.896
Phillip. This investigation would

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explore how council could provide advice

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to residents and support in the referral

02:04:12.080 --> 02:04:14.135
of issues to the relevant council team,

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community service provider or government

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agency.

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Thank you.  the that is the amendment

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before us. Is there a seconder for this

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amendment?  councelor Crawford is

02:04:26.000 --> 02:04:29.000
seconding the amendment. Does the mover

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wish to speak to the amendment?

02:04:32.880 --> 02:04:35.416
This amendment

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seeks to address a gap that has been

02:04:38.480 --> 02:04:41.480
identified by residents around  what

02:04:42.719 --> 02:04:45.719
to do when they um

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see a situation that does impact the

02:04:49.280 --> 02:04:51.496
amenity of the area where they have

02:04:51.520 --> 02:04:54.520
concern for the welfare of someone on

02:04:54.560 --> 02:04:57.560
the street. It's not a triple0ero call.

02:04:57.679 --> 02:04:59.976
It's not an emergency. It's certainly

02:05:00.000 --> 02:05:02.536
not something you would snap send solve.

02:05:02.560 --> 02:05:05.560
There are processes within council um to

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report these types of incidents and

02:05:09.520 --> 02:05:12.520
occurrences, but my concern is that um a

02:05:13.040 --> 02:05:15.095
lot of local residents are not aware and

02:05:15.119 --> 02:05:18.119
I note that our plan does a key pillar

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is improving communication and I think

02:05:21.040 --> 02:05:22.615
the council needs to do a little bit

02:05:22.639 --> 02:05:25.639
more work in addressing this gap and

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give counselors an option or a few

02:05:28.719 --> 02:05:30.615
options on how to improve this

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particular sort of scenario.

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The mover has spoken. Does a second wish

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to speak?  any opposition to the

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amendment?

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All right.  there's a suggestion

02:05:43.679 --> 02:05:46.679
around the wording,

02:05:47.840 --> 02:05:49.256
a point of clarification around the

02:05:49.280 --> 02:05:52.280
wording.

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While we're doing that, does anyone else

02:05:54.400 --> 02:05:56.776
wish to speak to the motion? Councelor

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Holidayiday.

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 thank you, Mayor. , and thank you,

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councelor Buckingham. I think um for for

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several of us counselors, this um this

02:06:08.320 --> 02:06:10.776
area was

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an area that came up just last week

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where a resident had an issue um where

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they sought our assistance, council's

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assistance, police assistant, housing

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assistance in um tackling that issue.

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and it was an area where it wasn't

02:06:29.920 --> 02:06:32.920
immediately clear um about whose

02:06:33.760 --> 02:06:36.456
responsibility it was because of some of

02:06:36.480 --> 02:06:39.095
the circumstances of it. And I hope that

02:06:39.119 --> 02:06:42.119
something like this will clarify how we

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can better communicate those um overlaps

02:06:46.159 --> 02:06:49.159
of of responsibility and the differences

02:06:49.599 --> 02:06:52.599
in responsibility um for key  you know

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whatever issues it is that come up um in

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our City. So I am happy to support this.

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Any other councilors wish to speak to

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the amendment? Yes, councelor Hardy. Any

02:07:06.480 --> 02:07:08.456
mechanism that  any mechanism that

02:07:08.480 --> 02:07:10.215
assists residents to report matters to

02:07:10.239 --> 02:07:13.239
the council and speak to a voice is

02:07:13.440 --> 02:07:15.256
comforting and makes them feel that

02:07:15.280 --> 02:07:16.856
they've been listened to and I fully

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support this amendment.

02:07:19.679 --> 02:07:21.655
Any other councilors wish to speak to

02:07:21.679 --> 02:07:24.679
the amendment?

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Councelor Buckingham, there was an

02:07:27.679 --> 02:07:28.856
adjustment around the wording. Are you

02:07:28.880 --> 02:07:31.175
comfortable with that adjustment? Yep.

02:07:31.199 --> 02:07:34.199
Okay. Any other councilors wish to speak

02:07:34.239 --> 02:07:35.816
to the amendment? Going once, going

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twice. In which case, does the mover

02:07:38.719 --> 02:07:40.856
wish to close?

02:07:40.880 --> 02:07:43.575
The mover is putting the motion or

02:07:43.599 --> 02:07:45.016
sorry, putting the amendment. All those

02:07:45.040 --> 02:07:47.655
in favor of the amendment that is

02:07:47.679 --> 02:07:50.376
carried, noting councelor Jay is absent

02:07:50.400 --> 02:07:53.095
to at the moment

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 due to flu.

02:07:58.880 --> 02:08:01.016
So  that amendment is now part of the

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substantive motion. We are continuing

02:08:03.520 --> 02:08:05.896
discussion on the substantive motion.

02:08:05.920 --> 02:08:08.135
Any other speakers to the substantive

02:08:08.159 --> 02:08:10.296
motion being 10.1 with that amendment

02:08:10.320 --> 02:08:13.320
now included?

02:08:13.520 --> 02:08:16.520
Councelor Buckingham.

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This plan puts us in a strong position

02:08:21.520 --> 02:08:24.520
to improve community safety. um in the

02:08:25.520 --> 02:08:28.520
City of Port Phillip. It aligns with the

02:08:29.679 --> 02:08:31.896
recommendations from the Ian Gray report

02:08:31.920 --> 02:08:34.920
and the

02:08:35.040 --> 02:08:37.575
 advice that we've heard through the

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community service agencies and Victoria

02:08:39.920 --> 02:08:42.055
Police.

02:08:42.079 --> 02:08:45.079
It is an ambitious plan. It is a big

02:08:46.000 --> 02:08:49.000
work program and

02:08:49.599 --> 02:08:52.599
if we  unite behind this plan we will

02:08:53.760 --> 02:08:56.760
see a real improvement on our streets.

02:08:57.280 --> 02:08:59.175
There are things I'd like to see it go

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further. I think um you know family

02:09:01.440 --> 02:09:04.440
violence is a huge  and gender based

02:09:04.880 --> 02:09:07.880
violence is a huge safety issue within

02:09:08.000 --> 02:09:10.296
City of Port Phillip as it is in all

02:09:10.320 --> 02:09:13.320
parts of um the state and Australia. But

02:09:15.119 --> 02:09:18.119
given um where we're at at this point in

02:09:18.239 --> 02:09:21.239
time, it is a big work plan that will

02:09:22.639 --> 02:09:25.016
have tangible benefits and it's working

02:09:25.040 --> 02:09:28.040
in partnership with  police and the

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community service organizations and it

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is council taking a leading role. I just

02:09:34.960 --> 02:09:37.960
um want us all to reflect on

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the fact that having a plan is a an

02:09:41.760 --> 02:09:44.760
important first step, but now um rolling

02:09:44.880 --> 02:09:46.776
it out and implementing it is going to

02:09:46.800 --> 02:09:48.456
be key to seeing the improvement that we

02:09:48.480 --> 02:09:49.976
all want to see.

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Thank you, councelor Buckingham. Any

02:09:51.679 --> 02:09:54.679
other speakers to the motion before us?

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I am going to take that silence as no

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further speakers. Does the mover wish to

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close? That is you, Councelor

02:10:03.280 --> 02:10:05.256
Holidayiday.

02:10:05.280 --> 02:10:07.896
You're all good. Yeah, you're going to

02:10:07.920 --> 02:10:09.976
put the motion. The motion is now being

02:10:10.000 --> 02:10:13.000
put. All those in favor, that is carried

02:10:14.079 --> 02:10:16.055
unanimously with the counselors that are

02:10:16.079 --> 02:10:18.856
currently present.

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That motion is carried.

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All right.

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Now, it brings us to item 10.2, the

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proposed local law amendment update. and

02:10:31.920 --> 02:10:34.920
draft protocol with police.

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I might give us a 5m minute recess just

02:10:39.760 --> 02:10:42.536
to see how councelor Jay is.  given

02:10:42.560 --> 02:10:44.615
this is an item that affects the entire

02:10:44.639 --> 02:10:47.639
council. I'll pause for 5 minutes just

02:10:48.239 --> 02:10:51.239
to check on councelor J.

02:10:51.760 --> 02:10:54.615
And we're back in session. Right on time

02:10:54.639 --> 02:10:56.695
too. Well done everyone. We are back in

02:10:56.719 --> 02:10:59.095
session. We are back in session. Thank

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you councilors.

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Thank you councilors.

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Thank you councelor Consol. We are back

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in session.

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So we are now on to item 10.2 the

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proposed local law amendment update and

02:11:13.520 --> 02:11:16.520
draft protocol with police.

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We have a recommendation before us. Is

02:11:20.000 --> 02:11:22.536
there a councelor that wishes?

02:11:22.560 --> 02:11:24.615
Sorry councelor question time first.

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Thank you.

02:11:27.599 --> 02:11:29.976
Councelor Tamman, you have the first

02:11:30.000 --> 02:11:31.976
question.

02:11:32.000 --> 02:11:35.000
Yes.  my first question is that  can

02:11:35.840 --> 02:11:38.840
 can we understand a bit better  and

02:11:41.360 --> 02:11:43.896
um with a bit more detail the three

02:11:43.920 --> 02:11:46.135
options A, B, and C that are in front of

02:11:46.159 --> 02:11:48.055
us.

02:11:48.079 --> 02:11:50.376
That's a very open-ended question, but

02:11:50.400 --> 02:11:52.296
over to Nelly Montigue, the manager of

02:11:52.320 --> 02:11:53.896
safety and immenity.

02:11:53.920 --> 02:11:55.816
You may thank you for the question. So

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option A that you have before you

02:11:57.360 --> 02:11:59.016
tonight is the option that was endorsed

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for community engagement at the 21st of

02:12:01.520 --> 02:12:03.655
May council meeting and would allow the

02:12:03.679 --> 02:12:06.679
CEO to temporarily designate an area as

02:12:07.440 --> 02:12:09.976
a no encampment area where three or more

02:12:10.000 --> 02:12:12.135
people must not have encampment

02:12:12.159 --> 02:12:15.095
equipment with them based on behavior

02:12:15.119 --> 02:12:17.736
from that encampment that impacted the

02:12:17.760 --> 02:12:19.976
amenity or safety of themselves or

02:12:20.000 --> 02:12:23.000
others. A triaged approach must be

02:12:23.119 --> 02:12:25.256
undertaken with service providers and

02:12:25.280 --> 02:12:28.280
police prior to designation and the CEO

02:12:28.480 --> 02:12:30.456
would seek an assurance from police that

02:12:30.480 --> 02:12:32.296
they are available to enforce the

02:12:32.320 --> 02:12:34.695
designation. This agreement is set out

02:12:34.719 --> 02:12:36.695
in the signed operating protocol in your

02:12:36.719 --> 02:12:38.536
papers tonight.

02:12:38.560 --> 02:12:41.256
Option B proposes the addition of a new

02:12:41.280 --> 02:12:43.575
part of the local law which outlines

02:12:43.599 --> 02:12:46.456
that if anyone is behaving in a manner

02:12:46.480 --> 02:12:48.536
in which the amenity or safety of

02:12:48.560 --> 02:12:51.560
themselves or others is at risk and that

02:12:51.920 --> 02:12:54.055
they are in possession of encampment

02:12:54.079 --> 02:12:56.615
equipment. The encampment equipment

02:12:56.639 --> 02:12:59.639
could be removed by authorized officers

02:12:59.840 --> 02:13:02.536
once best endeavors have been made to

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address the behaviors.

02:13:05.119 --> 02:13:07.175
In practice, this will involve service

02:13:07.199 --> 02:13:09.416
providers to ensure people are provided

02:13:09.440 --> 02:13:11.816
opportunities to get help and would

02:13:11.840 --> 02:13:14.615
require police support to undertake.

02:13:14.639 --> 02:13:16.695
Neither local law or amendment enables

02:13:16.719 --> 02:13:19.719
local law or officers to move people on.

02:13:20.000 --> 02:13:22.376
This is a power that can only be held by

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police.

02:13:23.920 --> 02:13:26.776
Option C is to not alter the current

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local law and proceed with this local

02:13:29.440 --> 02:13:32.135
law for the remaining time it is in in

02:13:32.159 --> 02:13:35.159
action. Any

02:13:35.280 --> 02:13:36.536
further questions, Councelor

02:13:36.560 --> 02:13:38.296
Holidayiday?

02:13:38.320 --> 02:13:40.055
, thank you for that clarification. I

02:13:40.079 --> 02:13:41.575
think that's important, especially about

02:13:41.599 --> 02:13:44.599
the move on um, , powers, which we

02:13:45.440 --> 02:13:48.440
don't have. Um, and there were comments

02:13:48.560 --> 02:13:51.560
obviously about, , local laws moving

02:13:52.560 --> 02:13:55.560
people on. Um, obviously that might be a

02:13:55.920 --> 02:13:57.896
request rather than a directive in that

02:13:57.920 --> 02:13:59.816
case.  but getting to my actual

02:13:59.840 --> 02:14:02.055
question, um how many people do we

02:14:02.079 --> 02:14:04.536
currently have on the by name list and

02:14:04.560 --> 02:14:07.560
how many  are currently sleeping rough

02:14:08.000 --> 02:14:10.215
as we understand it?

02:14:10.239 --> 02:14:12.296
Over to Nelly Montigue, our manager of

02:14:12.320 --> 02:14:13.416
safety and amenity.

02:14:13.440 --> 02:14:15.095
Through you, mayor. As of the end of

02:14:15.119 --> 02:14:18.055
November, approximately 82 people are on

02:14:18.079 --> 02:14:21.079
the by name list with 50 people sleeping

02:14:21.280 --> 02:14:24.055
rough.

02:14:24.079 --> 02:14:26.296
Thank you. Deputy Mayor Mears, you have a

02:14:26.320 --> 02:14:28.695
question.

02:14:28.719 --> 02:14:31.719
Yes. Thank you, Mayor. My question is um

02:14:32.800 --> 02:14:35.496
could you please advise the timeline for

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implementation

02:14:37.040 --> 02:14:40.040
of option B should it be successful and

02:14:41.040 --> 02:14:43.816
is it possible given indications of a

02:14:43.840 --> 02:14:45.655
lengthy process for that to be

02:14:45.679 --> 02:14:47.095
shortened?

02:14:47.119 --> 02:14:49.256
Over to Nelly Montigue, our manager of

02:14:49.280 --> 02:14:50.615
safety and amenity.

02:14:50.639 --> 02:14:52.615
Through you, mayor. We appreciate the

02:14:52.639 --> 02:14:55.256
desire for changes to be made quickly um

02:14:55.280 --> 02:14:57.336
to provide another tool to assist with

02:14:57.360 --> 02:14:59.256
challenges in the public realm and we'll

02:14:59.280 --> 02:15:01.095
work as quickly as we can if endorsed

02:15:01.119 --> 02:15:03.256
tonight. However, there are clear

02:15:03.280 --> 02:15:05.175
requirements under the local government

02:15:05.199 --> 02:15:08.199
act in a statutory process to ensure

02:15:08.239 --> 02:15:09.896
that the community has time to

02:15:09.920 --> 02:15:12.456
understand and provide feedback on any

02:15:12.480 --> 02:15:15.175
proposed local laws. This includes a

02:15:15.199 --> 02:15:17.496
minimum of four weeks of community

02:15:17.520 --> 02:15:19.896
engagement outside of school holidays

02:15:19.920 --> 02:15:22.856
with notice provided beforehand.

02:15:22.880 --> 02:15:24.536
Analysis of the community engagement

02:15:24.560 --> 02:15:26.695
would then need to take place including

02:15:26.719 --> 02:15:29.496
the obtaining of a legal certificate and

02:15:29.520 --> 02:15:32.135
preparation of council papers. We would

02:15:32.159 --> 02:15:34.215
then brief and then take to a public

02:15:34.239 --> 02:15:36.536
meeting the decision outlined in your

02:15:36.560 --> 02:15:39.256
papers is six month timeline um to come

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back to council by August. we could

02:15:43.040 --> 02:15:44.856
attempt to shorten that as much as we

02:15:44.880 --> 02:15:46.695
possibly could around school holidays

02:15:46.719 --> 02:15:49.719
and other um festivities to try and

02:15:49.920 --> 02:15:52.920
bring it back to you by the end of June.

02:15:55.520 --> 02:15:58.520
 councelor Tamman and then I'll go to

02:15:58.880 --> 02:16:01.880
councelor Hardy.

02:16:03.840 --> 02:16:06.840
A lot of questions. 

02:16:07.199 --> 02:16:10.199
obviously we heard tonight that the

02:16:10.880 --> 02:16:13.496
sentiments of some people that we are

02:16:13.520 --> 02:16:15.175
actually punishing people who are

02:16:15.199 --> 02:16:18.199
homeless. Is this the case?

02:16:19.840 --> 02:16:21.896
 over to Nelly Montigu, our manager of

02:16:21.920 --> 02:16:23.976
safety and amenity.

02:16:24.000 --> 02:16:27.000
Through you, mayor. Neither options A or

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B before you  is intended to punish

02:16:30.079 --> 02:16:33.079
anyone. The focus is on the behaviors,

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specifically behaviors that have adverse

02:16:36.399 --> 02:16:39.016
amenity and welfare impacts, similar to

02:16:39.040 --> 02:16:40.615
some of the behaviors that we heard

02:16:40.639 --> 02:16:42.615
about here tonight, including public

02:16:42.639 --> 02:16:44.936
defecation and urination, clearly

02:16:44.960 --> 02:16:47.495
visible drug paraphernalia, drug use and

02:16:47.519 --> 02:16:50.056
dealing, the presence of rubbish,

02:16:50.080 --> 02:16:51.736
yelling, and aggressive behavior,

02:16:51.760 --> 02:16:53.415
including late at night, and

02:16:53.439 --> 02:16:55.816
intimidating and unsafe and threatening

02:16:55.840 --> 02:16:58.840
behavior to people passing by. And

02:16:58.880 --> 02:17:01.880
councelor Hardy, now it's your turn.

02:17:03.120 --> 02:17:06.120
In relation to page  sorry, on page

02:17:06.160 --> 02:17:07.816
329

02:17:07.840 --> 02:17:10.615
at section 55A

02:17:10.639 --> 02:17:13.639
under the preamble, we have section one,

02:17:14.880 --> 02:17:17.880
section two, section three, and section

02:17:17.920 --> 02:17:20.920
four. Going over to page 330,

02:17:21.439 --> 02:17:24.439
the preamble under section 4 states,

02:17:25.359 --> 02:17:27.976
"Authorized officers must you first use

02:17:28.000 --> 02:17:30.455
best endeavors to address the behaviors

02:17:30.479 --> 02:17:33.256
that breach the provision." Could I have

02:17:33.280 --> 02:17:36.136
some indication what we mean by best

02:17:36.160 --> 02:17:37.575
endeavors?

02:17:37.599 --> 02:17:39.256
Once again, Nelly Montigue, our manager

02:17:39.280 --> 02:17:40.776
of safety and amenity.

02:17:40.800 --> 02:17:42.856
Through you, mayor. Best endeavors will

02:17:42.880 --> 02:17:45.495
include a sliding scale of actions from

02:17:45.519 --> 02:17:47.736
authorized officers, including

02:17:47.760 --> 02:17:49.896
conversations with the people displaying

02:17:49.920 --> 02:17:52.136
negative behavior to request they cease

02:17:52.160 --> 02:17:54.455
their behavior, discussing with them if

02:17:54.479 --> 02:17:57.176
they require connection with services,

02:17:57.200 --> 02:17:59.655
raising it at hotspots and Port Phillips

02:17:59.679 --> 02:18:01.976
Zero meetings to ensure wraparound

02:18:02.000 --> 02:18:05.000
services are um provided, and activating

02:18:05.519 --> 02:18:07.655
outreach services through service

02:18:07.679 --> 02:18:10.216
agreements. Authorized officers  do

02:18:10.240 --> 02:18:12.056
this in a range of scenarios across the

02:18:12.080 --> 02:18:13.976
local laws that are currently in place

02:18:14.000 --> 02:18:16.535
and are well trained and supported in

02:18:16.559 --> 02:18:19.176
approaching these kind of um situations

02:18:19.200 --> 02:18:21.176
to ensure positive outcoMears for everyone

02:18:21.200 --> 02:18:22.936
involved.

02:18:22.960 --> 02:18:25.960
Now back to you councelor Tomman.

02:18:26.240 --> 02:18:29.240
 just look at option B. Um does that

02:18:29.840 --> 02:18:31.655
you know some people say we are actually

02:18:31.679 --> 02:18:33.176
discriminate against people are

02:18:33.200 --> 02:18:35.415
homeless.  does that option

02:18:35.439 --> 02:18:37.976
discriminate or separate gives different

02:18:38.000 --> 02:18:40.615
rights to people who are homeless or

02:18:40.639 --> 02:18:43.256
people other people who are potentially

02:18:43.280 --> 02:18:45.096
encomp  you know camping on our

02:18:45.120 --> 02:18:46.375
streets.

02:18:46.399 --> 02:18:48.216
Back to you Nelly Montigu, manager of

02:18:48.240 --> 02:18:49.655
safety and amenity.

02:18:49.679 --> 02:18:52.375
You may option A and B propose including

02:18:52.399 --> 02:18:55.016
a new part to the local law.  they do

02:18:55.040 --> 02:18:57.495
not propose removing the exemptions to

02:18:57.519 --> 02:19:00.295
clause 42 camping on council land which

02:19:00.319 --> 02:19:01.816
is that if people are experiencing

02:19:01.840 --> 02:19:04.695
homelessness or have complex needs. The

02:19:04.719 --> 02:19:07.719
proposal in A and B is a new section of

02:19:07.920 --> 02:19:09.896
the local law which does not have

02:19:09.920 --> 02:19:12.455
exemptions within it.

02:19:12.479 --> 02:19:14.295
And councelor Buckingham you had a

02:19:14.319 --> 02:19:16.535
question.

02:19:16.559 --> 02:19:18.936
I have two questions relating to the

02:19:18.960 --> 02:19:21.960
cost of changing the local law. The

02:19:22.000 --> 02:19:24.615
report states that it will cost $60,000

02:19:24.639 --> 02:19:27.639
to make  option A or option B. How

02:19:28.800 --> 02:19:31.800
much has council already spent in the

02:19:32.080 --> 02:19:34.455
last 12 months on investigating changes

02:19:34.479 --> 02:19:36.856
to our local law?

02:19:36.880 --> 02:19:39.880
And my second question is that have we

02:19:41.120 --> 02:19:43.575
 costed

02:19:43.599 --> 02:19:46.599
 implementation of these changes? I

02:19:47.519 --> 02:19:50.519
note that Morton Bay in Queensland made

02:19:50.960 --> 02:19:52.936
similar changes to their local laws and

02:19:52.960 --> 02:19:55.176
it's been reported on ABC News that that

02:19:55.200 --> 02:19:57.576
council is now spending over a million

02:19:57.600 --> 02:20:00.600
dollars in implementing the change.

02:20:00.720 --> 02:20:02.455
Back to you, Nearly Montigue, manager of

02:20:02.479 --> 02:20:04.216
safety and amenity.

02:20:04.240 --> 02:20:07.176
Through you, mayor.  the $60,000 

02:20:07.200 --> 02:20:08.936
coMears from the timeline I spoke to

02:20:08.960 --> 02:20:10.696
earlier, the requirements for a

02:20:10.720 --> 02:20:13.096
comprehensive engagement um plan,

02:20:13.120 --> 02:20:15.496
including resourcing of  things like

02:20:15.520 --> 02:20:18.520
neighborhood pop-ups, the um creation of

02:20:19.040 --> 02:20:21.096
a a lengthy engagement report so that

02:20:21.120 --> 02:20:22.856
counselors can understand the feedback

02:20:22.880 --> 02:20:24.936
from the community um as well as

02:20:24.960 --> 02:20:27.335
obviously the legal costs associated

02:20:27.359 --> 02:20:29.736
with the certification that is required.

02:20:29.760 --> 02:20:31.816
That's where that $60,000 cost coMears

02:20:31.840 --> 02:20:34.696
from.  your question about the current

02:20:34.720 --> 02:20:37.720
the to date spend on investigations.

02:20:37.760 --> 02:20:39.576
I'll have to take on notice an exact

02:20:39.600 --> 02:20:42.600
figure for you. Obviously  since this

02:20:42.640 --> 02:20:44.696
time last year, we've had a number of um

02:20:44.720 --> 02:20:47.096
papers and work done including the

02:20:47.120 --> 02:20:50.120
community safety roundt and legal um

02:20:50.479 --> 02:20:53.096
feedback on the February u motion as

02:20:53.120 --> 02:20:55.016
well as the option A that you're seeing

02:20:55.040 --> 02:20:58.040
here tonight and the option B. Um so the

02:20:58.399 --> 02:21:01.335
costs are mainly around legal costs at

02:21:01.359 --> 02:21:04.359
the moment as well as um staff time 

02:21:04.399 --> 02:21:06.616
to fully understand what is being

02:21:06.640 --> 02:21:08.936
proposed, what it would look like um and

02:21:08.960 --> 02:21:10.375
making sure that we are in line with the

02:21:10.399 --> 02:21:12.616
local government act requirements. I'll

02:21:12.640 --> 02:21:13.976
have to get back to you on an exact

02:21:14.000 --> 02:21:16.136
figure. You've also asked about the

02:21:16.160 --> 02:21:19.160
future cost of implementation of either

02:21:19.600 --> 02:21:22.600
of these local laws. That hasn't been

02:21:22.720 --> 02:21:25.720
done to a a financial figure. Um as you

02:21:26.399 --> 02:21:29.399
mentioned there are um you know

02:21:29.680 --> 02:21:31.415
questions around some of the legal

02:21:31.439 --> 02:21:33.896
implications of this. Option A and B

02:21:33.920 --> 02:21:36.920
have been drafted  with lawyers and as

02:21:37.520 --> 02:21:40.520
outlined in your papers um there is

02:21:41.600 --> 02:21:44.600
an a belief that it is um a basic level

02:21:45.760 --> 02:21:47.816
of confidence about the compliance of

02:21:47.840 --> 02:21:49.816
the provision with the human rights

02:21:49.840 --> 02:21:52.295
charter.  the issue is not completely

02:21:52.319 --> 02:21:54.696
beyond doubt and especially in the

02:21:54.720 --> 02:21:57.496
implementation of any encampment or no

02:21:57.520 --> 02:22:00.136
encampment clauses or option A or B

02:22:00.160 --> 02:22:02.295
officers would need to comply with all

02:22:02.319 --> 02:22:04.696
state legislation and the human rights

02:22:04.720 --> 02:22:07.720
charter as they put those  clauses

02:22:07.920 --> 02:22:10.295
into practice on the ground. Um and that

02:22:10.319 --> 02:22:12.136
would be outlined very carefully in any

02:22:12.160 --> 02:22:13.736
standard operating procedures and

02:22:13.760 --> 02:22:15.896
training for staff if local law

02:22:15.920 --> 02:22:18.216
amendments were made. But we have not

02:22:18.240 --> 02:22:19.816
worked out a financial figure of

02:22:19.840 --> 02:22:22.840
potential costs of implementation.

02:22:23.200 --> 02:22:26.200
Councelor Holidayiday.

02:22:26.319 --> 02:22:29.096
Thank you, Mayor. Um, we've we heard a

02:22:29.120 --> 02:22:30.936
bit about maybe we didn't hear about

02:22:30.960 --> 02:22:32.936
Madden House. Um, we heard about Madden

02:22:32.960 --> 02:22:35.960
House earlier. Madden House is a new um,

02:22:37.280 --> 02:22:40.280
you know, social housing , facility

02:22:40.720 --> 02:22:43.176
that that we partially funded that's

02:22:43.200 --> 02:22:46.200
coming online. Um, how many how many

02:22:47.840 --> 02:22:50.840
people are we expecting um to be housed

02:22:51.760 --> 02:22:54.760
at Madden House from our um from our by

02:22:55.040 --> 02:22:58.040
name list or from our um who are

02:22:58.080 --> 02:23:01.016
sleeping rough and

02:23:01.040 --> 02:23:04.040
how many people do we hope that that

02:23:04.319 --> 02:23:06.776
might you know reduce that number of

02:23:06.800 --> 02:23:09.800
sleep of rough sleepers too and and

02:23:11.120 --> 02:23:13.016
apologies for the three parts of this

02:23:13.040 --> 02:23:16.040
question and how any what trajectory is

02:23:16.399 --> 02:23:18.776
our rough sleeping going in? Are we

02:23:18.800 --> 02:23:20.936
seeing that increase over time or

02:23:20.960 --> 02:23:23.960
decrease over time?

02:23:25.280 --> 02:23:26.616
Through you, mayor. I'm happy to answer

02:23:26.640 --> 02:23:29.640
that question. Um, so there are 26 units

02:23:29.680 --> 02:23:32.680
at Madden House of single occupancy 

02:23:32.720 --> 02:23:35.335
with many expected to be housed from the

02:23:35.359 --> 02:23:37.496
City of Port Phillip by name list. it is

02:23:37.520 --> 02:23:39.256
a triaged approach as they ensure that

02:23:39.280 --> 02:23:41.816
that facility um works as best as it

02:23:41.840 --> 02:23:43.496
possibly can and there'll be a lot of

02:23:43.520 --> 02:23:45.496
wraparound services to ensure that

02:23:45.520 --> 02:23:47.096
people understand what's available to

02:23:47.120 --> 02:23:49.496
them and and are able to access that in

02:23:49.520 --> 02:23:51.976
the best way that works for them. Um in

02:23:52.000 --> 02:23:53.896
terms of the hope for the future um

02:23:53.920 --> 02:23:56.375
obviously those um units are built to be

02:23:56.399 --> 02:23:57.896
used by people as long as they need

02:23:57.920 --> 02:23:59.736
them. Um they're not at their long-term

02:23:59.760 --> 02:24:01.415
care if people need them once they're

02:24:01.439 --> 02:24:03.816
in.  the trajectory of the by name

02:24:03.840 --> 02:24:05.576
list port Philip Zero do a huge amount

02:24:05.600 --> 02:24:08.295
of work in this space um across many

02:24:08.319 --> 02:24:10.536
services and across the council. Um the

02:24:10.560 --> 02:24:12.455
by name list numbers fluctuate um

02:24:12.479 --> 02:24:15.176
greatly across um monthtomonth. We

02:24:15.200 --> 02:24:18.200
understand that um as lots of inner City

02:24:18.319 --> 02:24:20.056
councils and and cities across the world

02:24:20.080 --> 02:24:22.136
are facing we are seeing an increase in

02:24:22.160 --> 02:24:24.375
the number of people  with housing

02:24:24.399 --> 02:24:26.375
instability in a range of ways not just

02:24:26.399 --> 02:24:29.176
roughly rough sleeping. Um, and there is

02:24:29.200 --> 02:24:31.335
a slight upward trend in some of those

02:24:31.359 --> 02:24:33.656
numbers as can be seen in our monthly

02:24:33.680 --> 02:24:34.616
reports.

02:24:34.640 --> 02:24:37.640
Thank you, Councelor Jay.

02:24:40.560 --> 02:24:42.375
And you may wish to unmute yourself.

02:24:42.399 --> 02:24:44.856
Perfect. Over to you, Councelor J.

02:24:44.880 --> 02:24:46.536
Thank you, Mayor. Um, I've got a couple

02:24:46.560 --> 02:24:48.616
of questions. There's been a referral to

02:24:48.640 --> 02:24:51.256
the cost of implementing any potential

02:24:51.280 --> 02:24:54.280
changes at $50,000. Um can we get an

02:24:54.640 --> 02:24:56.295
understanding of how much these

02:24:56.319 --> 02:24:58.216
encampments are costing us in the form

02:24:58.240 --> 02:25:01.240
of local laws, cleaning time, um rapid

02:25:02.399 --> 02:25:04.696
response and what the what the financial

02:25:04.720 --> 02:25:07.656
cost is of managing these spaces um

02:25:07.680 --> 02:25:09.415
currently

02:25:09.439 --> 02:25:12.375
is question one

02:25:12.399 --> 02:25:15.399
and your second question councelor Joy

02:25:15.600 --> 02:25:17.656
um there's been a lot of reference to

02:25:17.680 --> 02:25:20.616
55% support in no change with the

02:25:20.640 --> 02:25:23.016
council consultation. How many people

02:25:23.040 --> 02:25:26.040
were consult u consulted in that council

02:25:26.800 --> 02:25:28.856
consultation and how do those numbers

02:25:28.880 --> 02:25:31.880
sit with the 2,374

02:25:32.880 --> 02:25:35.880
signed um assigned local residents

02:25:36.080 --> 02:25:38.216
saying that they want um an absolute

02:25:38.240 --> 02:25:40.136
change.

02:25:40.160 --> 02:25:42.056
Once again back to you Neilie Montigue

02:25:42.080 --> 02:25:44.776
manager of safety and amenity

02:25:44.800 --> 02:25:47.256
through you may the exact cost of

02:25:47.280 --> 02:25:49.736
current encampments is difficult to give

02:25:49.760 --> 02:25:51.576
a single figure on. It obviously covers

02:25:51.600 --> 02:25:53.736
a lot of areas of council from as you

02:25:53.760 --> 02:25:55.976
mentioned cleaning, daily local laws,

02:25:56.000 --> 02:25:59.000
patrols, um public bins, all of our um

02:25:59.920 --> 02:26:02.856
port Philip Zero policy um work that we

02:26:02.880 --> 02:26:05.176
do across a number of sectors and

02:26:05.200 --> 02:26:08.056
service providers. Um the council budget

02:26:08.080 --> 02:26:10.216
um outlines a range of budget lines

02:26:10.240 --> 02:26:12.455
including our social inclusion and our

02:26:12.479 --> 02:26:14.136
community safety budget lines that are

02:26:14.160 --> 02:26:16.295
outlined in the papers  tonight and

02:26:16.319 --> 02:26:18.136
the community safety plan and affordable

02:26:18.160 --> 02:26:20.295
housing and homelessness strategy 

02:26:20.319 --> 02:26:23.096
have dedicated budgets as well. Um I'll

02:26:23.120 --> 02:26:25.496
take on notice an exact figure for you

02:26:25.520 --> 02:26:27.415
um but it obviously is part of the remit

02:26:27.439 --> 02:26:29.415
of council to manage our public space in

02:26:29.439 --> 02:26:32.439
the best way possible.

02:26:32.560 --> 02:26:33.976
Can you please remind me of yours? And

02:26:34.000 --> 02:26:37.000
the second question was around the level

02:26:37.040 --> 02:26:38.216
of cons so sorry so the percentage

02:26:38.240 --> 02:26:40.216
around consultation and the number that

02:26:40.240 --> 02:26:42.936
were consulted as part of that

02:26:42.960 --> 02:26:44.295
through you mayor. So in the papers

02:26:44.319 --> 02:26:47.319
tonight, you'll see in engagement um the

02:26:47.439 --> 02:26:50.216
findings between May and June this year

02:26:50.240 --> 02:26:51.736
um are following the May meeting where

02:26:51.760 --> 02:26:53.896
it was requested that we ask community

02:26:53.920 --> 02:26:56.920
feedback on option A um the endorsement

02:26:57.280 --> 02:26:59.576
the designation by the CEO of a certain

02:26:59.600 --> 02:27:01.816
area that went out in a have your say

02:27:01.840 --> 02:27:03.415
survey. It was part of neighborhood

02:27:03.439 --> 02:27:06.439
engagement pop-ups um and resulted in a

02:27:06.560 --> 02:27:09.496
number of um responses. You'll see from

02:27:09.520 --> 02:27:12.216
the papers tonight um that that included

02:27:12.240 --> 02:27:15.240
 over 850 responses to um the survey

02:27:16.319 --> 02:27:19.319
itself. From um that survey, 54.3%

02:27:21.120 --> 02:27:24.120
opposed with 48.7% strongly opposing and

02:27:24.880 --> 02:27:26.776
37.3%

02:27:26.800 --> 02:27:29.800
 were in support, 26.7% were strongly

02:27:30.399 --> 02:27:33.016
supporting that um amendment as it was

02:27:33.040 --> 02:27:35.976
proposed at that time.  there was a

02:27:36.000 --> 02:27:37.976
range of  theMears around support and

02:27:38.000 --> 02:27:39.576
opposition to those that came through

02:27:39.600 --> 02:27:42.600
the survey. We also um received 11

02:27:42.960 --> 02:27:45.736
written submissions, eight opposing the

02:27:45.760 --> 02:27:47.816
proposed local law amendment, two

02:27:47.840 --> 02:27:50.136
supporting the proposed amendment, and

02:27:50.160 --> 02:27:52.216
one suggesting the amendment did not go

02:27:52.240 --> 02:27:55.176
far enough. We've also received 

02:27:55.200 --> 02:27:57.496
petitions which are tabled in the papers

02:27:57.520 --> 02:28:00.520
tonight um with a number of responses as

02:28:00.720 --> 02:28:02.776
well. So the consultation figures that

02:28:02.800 --> 02:28:04.856
are in your papers were specifically for

02:28:04.880 --> 02:28:07.176
that May and June period that was

02:28:07.200 --> 02:28:10.056
endorsed in May and the details can be

02:28:10.080 --> 02:28:11.736
found in the community safety plan

02:28:11.760 --> 02:28:14.216
engagement report.

02:28:14.240 --> 02:28:17.240
Thank you.  over to councelor Consol.

02:28:18.240 --> 02:28:20.455
Thank you. What happens with the items

02:28:20.479 --> 02:28:22.455
if they are confiscated and are the

02:28:22.479 --> 02:28:25.479
people told at that time about what's

02:28:26.000 --> 02:28:28.936
going to happen?

02:28:28.960 --> 02:28:30.295
Back to you, Nearly Mont.

02:28:30.319 --> 02:28:31.976
Through you, mayor. We're very, very

02:28:32.000 --> 02:28:35.000
careful about the items that um we find

02:28:35.280 --> 02:28:37.976
or remove in public, especially if they

02:28:38.000 --> 02:28:40.856
look like personal or identifying items.

02:28:40.880 --> 02:28:43.880
If we have any um reason to suspect they

02:28:44.479 --> 02:28:47.479
are personal or identifying, we impound

02:28:47.520 --> 02:28:49.176
them. So, that means that we itemize

02:28:49.200 --> 02:28:51.976
them. We  list where and when they

02:28:52.000 --> 02:28:53.896
were found.  we look for any

02:28:53.920 --> 02:28:56.616
identifying features in those papers. 

02:28:56.640 --> 02:28:58.295
that we then work closely with our

02:28:58.319 --> 02:29:00.455
service providers to attempt to reach

02:29:00.479 --> 02:29:03.479
the owners of those items. Um and we

02:29:03.520 --> 02:29:05.576
work with internal stakeholders and our

02:29:05.600 --> 02:29:07.335
day-to-day work on the ground to try and

02:29:07.359 --> 02:29:10.056
reunite these items with their owners.

02:29:10.080 --> 02:29:12.856
Um we understand how precious these

02:29:12.880 --> 02:29:14.856
items are and we're very very careful

02:29:14.880 --> 02:29:17.496
about what we do remove. um the larger

02:29:17.520 --> 02:29:20.056
items such as bedding, um any broken

02:29:20.080 --> 02:29:23.080
furniture, bikes, any other items that

02:29:23.280 --> 02:29:25.415
are um left in the public area. We do

02:29:25.439 --> 02:29:27.176
have a responsibility to make sure those

02:29:27.200 --> 02:29:29.656
areas are safe, but we always talk to

02:29:29.680 --> 02:29:32.056
the people who are um maybe present or

02:29:32.080 --> 02:29:33.736
nearby or may know someone something

02:29:33.760 --> 02:29:35.976
about the ownership of those items

02:29:36.000 --> 02:29:38.696
before removal to ensure that they um

02:29:38.720 --> 02:29:40.536
have time and understand what is

02:29:40.560 --> 02:29:43.176
happening in that process. And 

02:29:43.200 --> 02:29:45.016
further commentary from our CEO Chris

02:29:45.040 --> 02:29:46.295
Carol.

02:29:46.319 --> 02:29:49.319
 thank you and you may um Nelly might

02:29:49.840 --> 02:29:52.536
elaborate that if there is an owner or

02:29:52.560 --> 02:29:55.415
if there is a person um who is there, we

02:29:55.439 --> 02:29:57.415
wouldn't generally take their personal

02:29:57.439 --> 02:30:00.216
belongings. Um I think the description

02:30:00.240 --> 02:30:01.736
she was talking about previously where

02:30:01.760 --> 02:30:04.136
items are potentially unattended and

02:30:04.160 --> 02:30:05.656
that's where officers will be doing

02:30:05.680 --> 02:30:08.375
their normal job of cleaning up. Um and

02:30:08.399 --> 02:30:10.696
if they do then find personal items they

02:30:10.720 --> 02:30:13.096
will look to see how we can um reunite

02:30:13.120 --> 02:30:16.120
those with people. Um but we are you

02:30:16.560 --> 02:30:18.936
know under the local law even with

02:30:18.960 --> 02:30:21.960
discarded items we we still take care um

02:30:22.720 --> 02:30:24.536
with those and and trying to reunite

02:30:24.560 --> 02:30:26.936
them with people.

02:30:26.960 --> 02:30:28.856
Thank you. Councelor Crawford your

02:30:28.880 --> 02:30:29.816
question please.

02:30:29.840 --> 02:30:32.840
I've got a couple if I may. Um, so look,

02:30:32.880 --> 02:30:34.295
I really want clarity because I think

02:30:34.319 --> 02:30:36.696
there's lots of misunderstanding about

02:30:36.720 --> 02:30:38.776
what this law could do. So I would like

02:30:38.800 --> 02:30:41.800
to clarify if I could. So firstly,

02:30:43.040 --> 02:30:46.040
under our current laws, we have been

02:30:46.560 --> 02:30:49.096
removing excess furniture and and

02:30:49.120 --> 02:30:50.455
bedding and all of that other than

02:30:50.479 --> 02:30:53.256
personal belongings. this year is that

02:30:53.280 --> 02:30:56.280
and and have we since obviously that

02:30:56.560 --> 02:30:58.295
particular period which was caretaker

02:30:58.319 --> 02:30:59.896
and a whole lot of things have we been

02:30:59.920 --> 02:31:02.920
more effective in our management of of

02:31:03.920 --> 02:31:06.455
um people with those excess furniture

02:31:06.479 --> 02:31:09.479
this year since obviously this became a

02:31:09.520 --> 02:31:12.056
concern.

02:31:12.080 --> 02:31:13.576
Back to you Nelly Montigue.

02:31:13.600 --> 02:31:15.896
Thank you through you mayor. As as you

02:31:15.920 --> 02:31:17.656
um mentioned, councelor, there are a

02:31:17.680 --> 02:31:19.335
number of clauses within our local law

02:31:19.359 --> 02:31:21.896
that attempt to ensure that  our

02:31:21.920 --> 02:31:23.896
council land and footpaths and roads are

02:31:23.920 --> 02:31:26.136
are clear for their intended uses. 

02:31:26.160 --> 02:31:28.375
clause 43 is furniture and other items

02:31:28.399 --> 02:31:30.455
on council land and footpaths and

02:31:30.479 --> 02:31:33.176
enables authorized officers  to remove

02:31:33.200 --> 02:31:36.136
those. We um always seek to understand

02:31:36.160 --> 02:31:37.976
who they are and their purpose before

02:31:38.000 --> 02:31:41.000
doing so. Um since this time last year,

02:31:41.840 --> 02:31:44.536
um we have listened very closely to the

02:31:44.560 --> 02:31:46.295
feedback from our community and and

02:31:46.319 --> 02:31:48.455
worked very hard to ensure that we are

02:31:48.479 --> 02:31:50.375
um responding to these kind of

02:31:50.399 --> 02:31:52.216
situations as quickly as we possibly

02:31:52.240 --> 02:31:54.856
can. Um and we that's been some of the

02:31:54.880 --> 02:31:56.375
benefit of these conversations and the

02:31:56.399 --> 02:31:58.776
work through the round table to talk to

02:31:58.800 --> 02:32:00.936
the amazing services that we do have in

02:32:00.960 --> 02:32:02.536
the City of Port Phillip that work at

02:32:02.560 --> 02:32:04.696
all aspects of these this challenging

02:32:04.720 --> 02:32:06.856
social problem. We know there is no one

02:32:06.880 --> 02:32:09.176
solution. We need a lot of people to

02:32:09.200 --> 02:32:11.576
help us and to work with us to to solve

02:32:11.600 --> 02:32:13.816
these things. So since December last

02:32:13.840 --> 02:32:16.536
year, we have um seen people um

02:32:16.560 --> 02:32:18.295
experiencing homelessness and rough

02:32:18.319 --> 02:32:20.136
sleeping. Um we have seen people

02:32:20.160 --> 02:32:21.816
gathering in public areas in different

02:32:21.840 --> 02:32:24.776
fashions. Um we have on the whole been

02:32:24.800 --> 02:32:26.216
very successful at making sure that

02:32:26.240 --> 02:32:28.455
those were contained, that they were not

02:32:28.479 --> 02:32:31.176
excess items for long periods of time.

02:32:31.200 --> 02:32:33.816
um that groups were um supported and

02:32:33.840 --> 02:32:36.840
talked to and um assisted to access food

02:32:37.760 --> 02:32:40.056
and medications and support um that they

02:32:40.080 --> 02:32:42.536
may need at any time. Um we have

02:32:42.560 --> 02:32:44.136
increased the number of local laws

02:32:44.160 --> 02:32:47.016
officers um who are working um which

02:32:47.040 --> 02:32:48.776
enables us to cover more hours of the

02:32:48.800 --> 02:32:50.776
day um especially over our summer period

02:32:50.800 --> 02:32:52.856
when we have an influx in in people to

02:32:52.880 --> 02:32:55.496
our City. Um so over the last 12 months

02:32:55.520 --> 02:32:58.455
I feel that we have um continued to make

02:32:58.479 --> 02:33:00.375
improvements in this space. We are

02:33:00.399 --> 02:33:02.136
always looking for ways to to improve

02:33:02.160 --> 02:33:04.136
our service and how we do that safely

02:33:04.160 --> 02:33:07.160
for um our staff but also for the people

02:33:07.200 --> 02:33:09.256
in these encampments and our residents

02:33:09.280 --> 02:33:11.176
and traders who who raise concern with

02:33:11.200 --> 02:33:11.576
us.

02:33:11.600 --> 02:33:13.256
Can I ask a follow-up question please?

02:33:13.280 --> 02:33:14.136
Y

02:33:14.160 --> 02:33:16.536
so given that most of the concerns we

02:33:16.560 --> 02:33:18.295
heard about were actually criminal

02:33:18.319 --> 02:33:20.536
activities and antisocial behavior less

02:33:20.560 --> 02:33:21.976
than the rough sleeping. So it's the

02:33:22.000 --> 02:33:24.776
behaviors of of a certain number of

02:33:24.800 --> 02:33:27.736
people. Would this change in local laws

02:33:27.760 --> 02:33:30.760
make any difference to the safety

02:33:31.040 --> 02:33:33.976
to those behaviors? And even if it was

02:33:34.000 --> 02:33:36.696
passed and say we removed, we said take

02:33:36.720 --> 02:33:39.720
all your excess items,

02:33:40.000 --> 02:33:42.455
would that local law actually move them

02:33:42.479 --> 02:33:44.056
or or they could stay there and sit

02:33:44.080 --> 02:33:46.696
there even without their items? Like

02:33:46.720 --> 02:33:48.776
does it go anywhere to resolving the

02:33:48.800 --> 02:33:50.936
issue of the criminal behaviors that

02:33:50.960 --> 02:33:53.576
people are so concerned about?

02:33:53.600 --> 02:33:55.016
Through you, mayor. So there is two

02:33:55.040 --> 02:33:56.696
elements to that. Obviously criminal

02:33:56.720 --> 02:33:58.616
behavior is not in the remit of

02:33:58.640 --> 02:34:00.375
authorized local laws officers to

02:34:00.399 --> 02:34:02.295
respond to. We do not have the training

02:34:02.319 --> 02:34:04.536
or the equipment or the resources to do

02:34:04.560 --> 02:34:07.176
that. That is um squarely in the remit

02:34:07.200 --> 02:34:10.056
of of police and any criminal behavior

02:34:10.080 --> 02:34:13.080
should be responded to by them. Um I

02:34:13.439 --> 02:34:16.216
think these options before you tonight

02:34:16.240 --> 02:34:19.176
specifically focus on antisocial um

02:34:19.200 --> 02:34:22.200
behaviors. We know that if these um 

02:34:22.880 --> 02:34:25.256
behaviors are tolerated for long periods

02:34:25.280 --> 02:34:27.736
of time that they tend to escalate um

02:34:27.760 --> 02:34:28.776
you know that if we don't have

02:34:28.800 --> 02:34:31.496
management of um the the different

02:34:31.520 --> 02:34:33.656
elements that go into those behaviors

02:34:33.680 --> 02:34:36.616
quickly and early and set expectations

02:34:36.640 --> 02:34:38.295
um there is a risk of them escalating.

02:34:38.319 --> 02:34:40.616
So I think in that way it is another

02:34:40.640 --> 02:34:42.776
tool for us to have on hand and for

02:34:42.800 --> 02:34:45.016
authorized officers in the field um to

02:34:45.040 --> 02:34:47.096
talk to um people who are displaying

02:34:47.120 --> 02:34:48.616
those behaviors no matter their

02:34:48.640 --> 02:34:51.640
circumstances. Um obviously from all of

02:34:51.760 --> 02:34:53.816
the discussions the round table report

02:34:53.840 --> 02:34:56.455
um outlined a range of actions to do um

02:34:56.479 --> 02:34:57.896
to assist with some of these challenges.

02:34:57.920 --> 02:34:59.256
is the community safety plan you just

02:34:59.280 --> 02:35:01.415
passed has some really great actions and

02:35:01.439 --> 02:35:03.176
and stakeholder involvement that will

02:35:03.200 --> 02:35:05.415
help with mitigating some of these

02:35:05.439 --> 02:35:08.439
circumstances and assisting people who

02:35:08.640 --> 02:35:10.536
because of their circumstances um

02:35:10.560 --> 02:35:13.176
sometiMears you know are can display some

02:35:13.200 --> 02:35:14.616
challenging behaviors for our community

02:35:14.640 --> 02:35:16.455
and we want to work with them to be as

02:35:16.479 --> 02:35:19.479
well as they can be. Um, so I think

02:35:19.520 --> 02:35:21.176
these options before you tonight, while

02:35:21.200 --> 02:35:24.200
there is no guarantee, there is no 

02:35:24.960 --> 02:35:27.960
way for us to quickly eliminate criminal

02:35:28.080 --> 02:35:29.816
and antisocial behavior, even though we

02:35:29.840 --> 02:35:31.976
would like to, , they give us another

02:35:32.000 --> 02:35:33.896
tool to have those conversations with

02:35:33.920 --> 02:35:35.816
people in the public realm and set the

02:35:35.840 --> 02:35:37.816
expectation of what behavior we do and

02:35:37.840 --> 02:35:40.455
don't tolerate and what options my

02:35:40.479 --> 02:35:42.936
staff, but then police um, have a key

02:35:42.960 --> 02:35:45.960
role in responding to as well. and CEO

02:35:46.399 --> 02:35:48.295
wishes to add Chris Carol.

02:35:48.319 --> 02:35:50.375
Three, Mayor and Nelly has been doing a

02:35:50.399 --> 02:35:52.375
fantastic job in answering their

02:35:52.399 --> 02:35:53.335
questions, but I think there's three

02:35:53.359 --> 02:35:54.856
points I'd kind of like to highlight in

02:35:54.880 --> 02:35:57.256
response to your questions.

02:35:57.280 --> 02:36:00.280
Firstly, um that the police that the

02:36:01.200 --> 02:36:03.176
local service providers and the chair of

02:36:03.200 --> 02:36:04.936
the community safety round table have

02:36:04.960 --> 02:36:06.616
all said that the City of Port Phillip

02:36:06.640 --> 02:36:09.640
punches above its weight in all aspects,

02:36:09.680 --> 02:36:12.375
local laws, how we support the community

02:36:12.399 --> 02:36:14.216
with housing and and homelessness

02:36:14.240 --> 02:36:16.295
support, the kinds of things that we're

02:36:16.319 --> 02:36:18.136
doing around the community safety plan.

02:36:18.160 --> 02:36:20.536
And that was before we embarked on a

02:36:20.560 --> 02:36:21.896
whole range of additional changes which

02:36:21.920 --> 02:36:24.295
you've now approved tonight in your

02:36:24.319 --> 02:36:26.696
housing and affordable housing and

02:36:26.720 --> 02:36:27.976
homelessness strategy in the community

02:36:28.000 --> 02:36:31.000
safety plan which will give us even more

02:36:31.359 --> 02:36:34.359
positive upstream support. Um so I think

02:36:35.040 --> 02:36:36.696
we should bear that in mind that we are

02:36:36.720 --> 02:36:38.455
not it's not us it's not me saying this

02:36:38.479 --> 02:36:41.176
this is external people our police our

02:36:41.200 --> 02:36:43.415
community service providers and the

02:36:43.439 --> 02:36:45.656
chair of the round table that we are

02:36:45.680 --> 02:36:48.616
leaders in this space. what we what

02:36:48.640 --> 02:36:49.976
you're choosing to do tonight with some

02:36:50.000 --> 02:36:52.375
of the other strategies is we will

02:36:52.399 --> 02:36:54.936
continue to improve. There is a a

02:36:54.960 --> 02:36:56.455
spectrum as you've heard tonight that we

02:36:56.479 --> 02:36:59.016
need to talk about at the at the pointy

02:36:59.040 --> 02:37:02.040
end. Um, in addition to what Nelly has

02:37:02.560 --> 02:37:04.375
said, I and I I don't want to speak for

02:37:04.399 --> 02:37:05.736
police, but I guess what we've heard

02:37:05.760 --> 02:37:08.760
from police is that they believe that

02:37:09.040 --> 02:37:10.616
some of the powers that they have to

02:37:10.640 --> 02:37:12.616
deal with some of these antisocial and

02:37:12.640 --> 02:37:15.640
criminal behaviors at the early stages

02:37:16.560 --> 02:37:19.560
um would be enhanced by some changes to

02:37:20.160 --> 02:37:23.160
the local law. Um, I mean, but that's

02:37:23.280 --> 02:37:24.696
something they've put in some of their

02:37:24.720 --> 02:37:26.056
submissions, but I just want to make

02:37:26.080 --> 02:37:27.496
sure that that was clear as well. It's

02:37:27.520 --> 02:37:29.736
not just about we can't. So, I want to

02:37:29.760 --> 02:37:32.616
be clear. We don't have the powers to

02:37:32.640 --> 02:37:34.616
deal with criminal behavior and nor are

02:37:34.640 --> 02:37:37.256
we equipped to, as Nelly said. Um, but

02:37:37.280 --> 02:37:38.936
we certainly are willing to play our

02:37:38.960 --> 02:37:41.576
part and on behalf of the community both

02:37:41.600 --> 02:37:43.816
in supporting the vulnerable

02:37:43.840 --> 02:37:45.656
um and responding to this in partnership

02:37:45.680 --> 02:37:48.680
with police where we can. Um, but hold

02:37:49.439 --> 02:37:51.496
no illusions.

02:37:51.520 --> 02:37:53.736
Um, while this might be an additional

02:37:53.760 --> 02:37:55.736
tool and it might help the police, is

02:37:55.760 --> 02:37:57.576
not going to solve many of the issues

02:37:57.600 --> 02:38:00.536
that we heard tonight around criminal

02:38:00.560 --> 02:38:03.096
behavior.

02:38:03.120 --> 02:38:06.120
Over to councelor Jay.

02:38:07.760 --> 02:38:10.760
Just a couple of questions. Um, ,

02:38:11.200 --> 02:38:13.656
Nelly had made reference to staff and

02:38:13.680 --> 02:38:16.680
and and safety. Um, what's our

02:38:16.880 --> 02:38:18.936
commitment to keeping our staff safe and

02:38:18.960 --> 02:38:20.776
how do they currently feel under the

02:38:20.800 --> 02:38:23.096
current framework dealing with the

02:38:23.120 --> 02:38:25.736
encampments is question one. And then

02:38:25.760 --> 02:38:27.415
question two, which will be my last

02:38:27.439 --> 02:38:30.439
question, is we um  did everything we

02:38:30.800 --> 02:38:33.736
could to speed forward the community

02:38:33.760 --> 02:38:36.295
roundt. Everyone was very proud of that.

02:38:36.319 --> 02:38:39.319
What tangible results have we seen from

02:38:39.840 --> 02:38:42.840
um from from the round table?

02:38:42.880 --> 02:38:44.216
Thank you for your questions, councelor

02:38:44.240 --> 02:38:46.216
Jay. Back to you, Nelly Montigue, a

02:38:46.240 --> 02:38:47.976
manager of safety and amenity.

02:38:48.000 --> 02:38:49.335
Through you, mayor. Thank you for the

02:38:49.359 --> 02:38:51.256
question about staff safety. Obviously,

02:38:51.280 --> 02:38:53.335
we have legislative requirements to

02:38:53.359 --> 02:38:56.216
ensure that  our workers have a safe

02:38:56.240 --> 02:38:58.056
 workplace and are provided with the

02:38:58.080 --> 02:38:59.496
resources and training they're required

02:38:59.520 --> 02:39:02.520
to do their jobs safely.  in terms of

02:39:02.880 --> 02:39:05.176
the local laws, officers themselves, um

02:39:05.200 --> 02:39:07.096
they had substantial training especially

02:39:07.120 --> 02:39:09.016
around deescalation and working with

02:39:09.040 --> 02:39:11.016
vulnerable people. We have standard

02:39:11.040 --> 02:39:13.576
operating procedures that outline  the

02:39:13.600 --> 02:39:16.136
range of um situations they may

02:39:16.160 --> 02:39:19.016
encounter um in the field. We also work

02:39:19.040 --> 02:39:21.176
closely with service providers and are

02:39:21.200 --> 02:39:24.200
um start rolling out um a range of

02:39:24.399 --> 02:39:26.536
training including with groups like Gate

02:39:26.560 --> 02:39:29.176
House to talk about localized approaches

02:39:29.200 --> 02:39:31.816
to our most vulnerable in the community

02:39:31.840 --> 02:39:33.736
um and work with our service providers

02:39:33.760 --> 02:39:35.576
who are experts in these fields to make

02:39:35.600 --> 02:39:36.696
sure that our approach is

02:39:36.720 --> 02:39:38.295
traumainformed.

02:39:38.319 --> 02:39:40.696
um it is driven by um evidence and data

02:39:40.720 --> 02:39:42.696
and is done in in the most appropriate

02:39:42.720 --> 02:39:45.415
way in terms of how they are u

02:39:45.439 --> 02:39:47.415
functioning at the moment. Um they are

02:39:47.439 --> 02:39:49.096
an incredible team and they do a lot

02:39:49.120 --> 02:39:51.496
every single day of the year. Um we

02:39:51.520 --> 02:39:53.816
equip them with a range of um equipment,

02:39:53.840 --> 02:39:56.840
resources um and utes and a range of

02:39:57.600 --> 02:39:59.415
things they need to do their job safely

02:39:59.439 --> 02:40:01.496
in the field.  they always work in

02:40:01.520 --> 02:40:04.216
groups of two if the risk is too great.

02:40:04.240 --> 02:40:06.776
 we assess each situation on its own

02:40:06.800 --> 02:40:08.856
merits  and can increase the number of

02:40:08.880 --> 02:40:11.335
staff attending to three to enable um

02:40:11.359 --> 02:40:13.896
that to safely happen. So we have a

02:40:13.920 --> 02:40:15.896
range of ways that we work um to ensure

02:40:15.920 --> 02:40:17.896
our staff are safe and of course police

02:40:17.920 --> 02:40:20.295
involvement if that is needed as well.

02:40:20.319 --> 02:40:22.216
If any of these amendments were to pass,

02:40:22.240 --> 02:40:23.896
we would do substantial amounts of

02:40:23.920 --> 02:40:26.216
training, standard operating procedures

02:40:26.240 --> 02:40:29.240
to clearly set the expectations on how

02:40:29.520 --> 02:40:31.256
 this would be enforced and approached

02:40:31.280 --> 02:40:33.736
in the field to ensure safety for staff

02:40:33.760 --> 02:40:35.736
as well as  the people that we are

02:40:35.760 --> 02:40:38.136
working with around the breaches um and

02:40:38.160 --> 02:40:40.776
residents and traders in the vicinity.

02:40:40.800 --> 02:40:42.536
Your question about the round table. So

02:40:42.560 --> 02:40:44.536
since it was held in March and the

02:40:44.560 --> 02:40:46.776
report was tabled at the May meeting um

02:40:46.800 --> 02:40:49.656
a range of actions are already underway.

02:40:49.680 --> 02:40:52.216
Um we have had um some excellent

02:40:52.240 --> 02:40:54.056
conversations with our stakeholders

02:40:54.080 --> 02:40:57.080
around um increasing um discussion and

02:40:57.280 --> 02:40:59.736
sharing of information between  what

02:40:59.760 --> 02:41:02.056
my team is seeing on the ground then

02:41:02.080 --> 02:41:04.056
with the services and with the outreach

02:41:04.080 --> 02:41:06.455
services as well.  we've also signed a

02:41:06.479 --> 02:41:09.096
service agreement with Nagala Willong um

02:41:09.120 --> 02:41:10.936
who will be providing on the ground

02:41:10.960 --> 02:41:13.656
support to our staff and providing

02:41:13.680 --> 02:41:15.816
outreach um to our most vulnerable in

02:41:15.840 --> 02:41:17.896
our community as appropriate. There are

02:41:17.920 --> 02:41:19.656
a range of other tangible outcoMears that

02:41:19.680 --> 02:41:21.896
are coming down the pipeline. Um we've

02:41:21.920 --> 02:41:23.496
worked through this incredibly fast and

02:41:23.520 --> 02:41:25.415
a lot has happened in the last 12

02:41:25.439 --> 02:41:27.096
months. We're really proud of what we've

02:41:27.120 --> 02:41:28.696
done so far, but we know we have a lot

02:41:28.720 --> 02:41:30.776
more work to do with the endorsement

02:41:30.800 --> 02:41:33.176
tonight of the community safety plan and

02:41:33.200 --> 02:41:35.335
the strategy. Um you have given us the

02:41:35.359 --> 02:41:37.496
remit to continue that work and and and

02:41:37.520 --> 02:41:40.520
to roll out those actions as well.

02:41:41.600 --> 02:41:42.856
Thank you. Over to councelor

02:41:42.880 --> 02:41:44.295
Holidayiday.

02:41:44.319 --> 02:41:46.616
 thank you ma'am.

02:41:46.640 --> 02:41:49.415
Um if we

02:41:49.439 --> 02:41:52.439
 implemented

02:41:52.800 --> 02:41:55.800
B or C here, B being you know the

02:41:57.920 --> 02:42:00.616
behavioral based interventions and C

02:42:00.640 --> 02:42:03.640
being our current practice, um what

02:42:04.240 --> 02:42:07.240
would what would be the difference in

02:42:09.040 --> 02:42:11.496
the on the ground activities of our

02:42:11.520 --> 02:42:13.896
local laws officers

02:42:13.920 --> 02:42:16.920
between B or

02:42:18.399 --> 02:42:20.375
Back to you, Nelly Montigue.

02:42:20.399 --> 02:42:23.256
Through you, Mayor. If option B  was

02:42:23.280 --> 02:42:24.856
put into the local law following

02:42:24.880 --> 02:42:27.656
community engagement, um it would enable

02:42:27.680 --> 02:42:29.896
authorized officers in the field to have

02:42:29.920 --> 02:42:31.816
conversations with people that are

02:42:31.840 --> 02:42:33.816
displaying the behavior that's outlined

02:42:33.840 --> 02:42:35.656
in the clause that was impacting the

02:42:35.680 --> 02:42:37.736
amenity or the safety of themselves or

02:42:37.760 --> 02:42:40.295
others and outline um that their

02:42:40.319 --> 02:42:42.616
encampment equipment including 

02:42:42.640 --> 02:42:45.176
mattresses, tents, and other channels

02:42:45.200 --> 02:42:47.256
could be removed from them if they do

02:42:47.280 --> 02:42:48.856
not remove them themselves once

02:42:48.880 --> 02:42:51.176
directed. this would enable a different

02:42:51.200 --> 02:42:53.496
kind of conversation to happen  than

02:42:53.520 --> 02:42:55.656
we can now. We talk more broadly about

02:42:55.680 --> 02:42:57.016
obviously the furniture clause I

02:42:57.040 --> 02:43:00.040
mentioned before um and the requirements

02:43:00.240 --> 02:43:02.616
under um other aspects of the local law.

02:43:02.640 --> 02:43:05.016
So it gives them another tool to have

02:43:05.040 --> 02:43:07.656
those discussions and to seek obviously

02:43:07.680 --> 02:43:09.576
the outcome of all of this is is that we

02:43:09.600 --> 02:43:11.816
want to see um positive behaviors on our

02:43:11.840 --> 02:43:13.176
streets and we want to reduce the

02:43:13.200 --> 02:43:16.200
instances of unsafe behaviors um and it

02:43:16.720 --> 02:43:18.295
would enable them to have a different

02:43:18.319 --> 02:43:19.976
kind of conversation than they can with

02:43:20.000 --> 02:43:23.000
the existing local laws.

02:43:23.600 --> 02:43:25.976
Council just to follow up there so what

02:43:26.000 --> 02:43:27.736
what conversations are they having under

02:43:27.760 --> 02:43:30.760
the existing local laws

02:43:30.960 --> 02:43:32.455
through you mayor? So obviously under

02:43:32.479 --> 02:43:35.479
the um furniture clause 43 um there is

02:43:35.840 --> 02:43:38.616
requirements about larger items um that

02:43:38.640 --> 02:43:41.640
may be um placed on public land um at

02:43:42.479 --> 02:43:44.056
the moment that you know if there are

02:43:44.080 --> 02:43:47.080
large mattresses um or boxes or items um

02:43:47.920 --> 02:43:50.920
that are on on public land we would have

02:43:51.040 --> 02:43:52.696
conversations about under that clause

02:43:52.720 --> 02:43:54.375
they are not allowed to be there please

02:43:54.399 --> 02:43:57.335
remove them um or we can we will remove

02:43:57.359 --> 02:43:59.896
them um first checking that none of

02:43:59.920 --> 02:44:02.295
those items are personal or or or needed

02:44:02.319 --> 02:44:05.016
items. So that is a different

02:44:05.040 --> 02:44:06.936
conversation than we could have around

02:44:06.960 --> 02:44:09.960
encampment equipment. Um and with the

02:44:10.240 --> 02:44:12.776
aim and the focus on the behaviors in

02:44:12.800 --> 02:44:15.176
particular, it would enable us to talk

02:44:15.200 --> 02:44:17.736
that through and work with police and

02:44:17.760 --> 02:44:19.896
service providers to further have those

02:44:19.920 --> 02:44:22.295
conversations.

02:44:22.319 --> 02:44:23.576
Councelor Holidayiday,

02:44:23.600 --> 02:44:26.536
apologies. One last followup here. What

02:44:26.560 --> 02:44:29.560
are we already have a clause in the

02:44:30.080 --> 02:44:33.080
local laws around behaviors though are

02:44:33.200 --> 02:44:36.200
we not already having discussions with

02:44:36.560 --> 02:44:39.560
folks unhoused residents about those

02:44:40.479 --> 02:44:43.335
behaviors

02:44:43.359 --> 02:44:46.136
through you may yes we are um so every

02:44:46.160 --> 02:44:47.816
day of the year we are having

02:44:47.840 --> 02:44:50.216
conversations about what's expected um

02:44:50.240 --> 02:44:53.176
my staff are incredibly trained in 

02:44:53.200 --> 02:44:55.496
deescalation and having  difficult

02:44:55.520 --> 02:44:57.335
convers conversations like that in

02:44:57.359 --> 02:45:00.136
appropriate ways. Um, so we do have

02:45:00.160 --> 02:45:03.096
those conversations about behavior. This

02:45:03.120 --> 02:45:06.056
clause in option B specifically relates

02:45:06.080 --> 02:45:08.856
to amenity and safety of themselves or

02:45:08.880 --> 02:45:11.255
others um with the presence of

02:45:11.279 --> 02:45:14.279
encampment equipment as well. Um, so it

02:45:14.399 --> 02:45:17.016
is a slightly different take on what we

02:45:17.040 --> 02:45:19.016
have in other elements of the local law

02:45:19.040 --> 02:45:21.496
and would provide a different avenue for

02:45:21.520 --> 02:45:23.976
conversation ideally non-punitive

02:45:24.000 --> 02:45:27.000
enforcement. um first um but as the last

02:45:27.600 --> 02:45:29.496
enforcement option would be to remove

02:45:29.520 --> 02:45:31.016
encampment equipment from people

02:45:31.040 --> 02:45:34.040
displaying those behaviors.

02:45:34.479 --> 02:45:37.479
 councelor Buckingham question.

02:45:38.319 --> 02:45:41.176
All three options in the report also

02:45:41.200 --> 02:45:43.656
refer to authorizing the signing of a

02:45:43.680 --> 02:45:45.415
protocol

02:45:45.439 --> 02:45:47.576
 which I understand was one of the

02:45:47.600 --> 02:45:48.856
recommendations that came out of the

02:45:48.880 --> 02:45:51.816
round table. Could you please clarify

02:45:51.840 --> 02:45:54.455
how the protocol will address some of

02:45:54.479 --> 02:45:55.736
the concerns that we heard in the

02:45:55.760 --> 02:45:58.760
chamber tonight

02:45:59.279 --> 02:46:00.536
through you mayor? So the signed

02:46:00.560 --> 02:46:01.816
protocol you'll see in your papers

02:46:01.840 --> 02:46:03.335
tonight was a recommendation of the

02:46:03.359 --> 02:46:06.056
round table to have a clearly um stepped

02:46:06.080 --> 02:46:08.536
out operating protocol between police

02:46:08.560 --> 02:46:10.696
and the City of Port Phillip um to

02:46:10.720 --> 02:46:12.455
respond to a range of issues in the

02:46:12.479 --> 02:46:14.616
community um and the public realm.

02:46:14.640 --> 02:46:17.096
You'll see in appendix one um we've

02:46:17.120 --> 02:46:19.576
captured um an approach to the

02:46:19.600 --> 02:46:22.295
enforcement of option A if it was to be

02:46:22.319 --> 02:46:24.295
in place. It currently doesn't have

02:46:24.319 --> 02:46:26.776
reference to option B. Um and we're

02:46:26.800 --> 02:46:28.936
recommending if option B  does

02:46:28.960 --> 02:46:31.176
progress to renegotiate that protocol

02:46:31.200 --> 02:46:32.696
with police to ensure that that is

02:46:32.720 --> 02:46:34.616
clearly stepped out how that enforcement

02:46:34.640 --> 02:46:37.176
approach and their um role in it would

02:46:37.200 --> 02:46:39.816
be would be rolled out. In terms of how

02:46:39.840 --> 02:46:41.816
it addresses some of the things we've

02:46:41.840 --> 02:46:43.976
heard tonight, the hope and the, you

02:46:44.000 --> 02:46:45.335
know, the reasoning behind the round

02:46:45.359 --> 02:46:47.816
table recommendation was to have clear

02:46:47.840 --> 02:46:50.776
expectations of both parties of police

02:46:50.800 --> 02:46:53.576
and  Port Phillip in how we respond

02:46:53.600 --> 02:46:55.816
and what we can expect um from each

02:46:55.840 --> 02:46:58.216
party going forward.  it's not

02:46:58.240 --> 02:46:59.736
something that there's many of. City of

02:46:59.760 --> 02:47:02.216
Melbourne  has one um from a number of

02:47:02.240 --> 02:47:04.776
years ago outlining an approach in very

02:47:04.800 --> 02:47:06.936
specific circumstances in their public

02:47:06.960 --> 02:47:09.096
realm. Um it is something the police

02:47:09.120 --> 02:47:10.776
have worked closely with us and you'll

02:47:10.800 --> 02:47:13.736
see it outlined in the papers today. It

02:47:13.760 --> 02:47:16.536
um outlines a commitment and interest in

02:47:16.560 --> 02:47:18.375
doing joint patrols which was also a

02:47:18.399 --> 02:47:20.056
recommendation of the round table and

02:47:20.080 --> 02:47:21.415
something we hear strongly from our

02:47:21.439 --> 02:47:23.576
community that the joint presence of

02:47:23.600 --> 02:47:26.056
police and local laws officers  on our

02:47:26.080 --> 02:47:28.375
streets improves perceptions of safety

02:47:28.399 --> 02:47:31.399
and it um it it tends to mitigate issues

02:47:32.000 --> 02:47:34.216
that are brewing um and resolves them

02:47:34.240 --> 02:47:36.375
early and and provides presence on the

02:47:36.399 --> 02:47:39.399
street um to improve safety. So there is

02:47:40.000 --> 02:47:41.976
yeah a range of ways we think it will be

02:47:42.000 --> 02:47:45.000
useful um and either any of the options

02:47:45.040 --> 02:47:46.696
up tonight we would suggest either

02:47:46.720 --> 02:47:48.536
signing it or renegotiating and deciding

02:47:48.560 --> 02:47:51.560
it in in a future meeting.

02:47:52.160 --> 02:47:54.216
Councelor Holidayiday.

02:47:54.240 --> 02:47:56.536
 thank you ma'am. Um in our

02:47:56.560 --> 02:47:59.335
partnerships with Victoria Police um how

02:47:59.359 --> 02:48:02.359
often or or have they at all used their

02:48:02.800 --> 02:48:05.096
move on powers in addressing the issues

02:48:05.120 --> 02:48:08.120
we've had with encampments?

02:48:08.720 --> 02:48:10.856
through you mayor.  this is a question

02:48:10.880 --> 02:48:13.656
for police. Um we cannot capture that

02:48:13.680 --> 02:48:16.295
kind of data on their behalf. We work

02:48:16.319 --> 02:48:17.976
closely with police and request that

02:48:18.000 --> 02:48:20.696
they attend with us.  but is it is up

02:48:20.720 --> 02:48:23.016
to their um jurisdiction and decision

02:48:23.040 --> 02:48:24.776
whether they utilize their move on

02:48:24.800 --> 02:48:25.896
powers.

02:48:25.920 --> 02:48:28.455
But but are we aware of any cases where

02:48:28.479 --> 02:48:30.696
you know obviously they attend with our

02:48:30.720 --> 02:48:32.375
with our local laws officers. Are we

02:48:32.399 --> 02:48:34.056
aware of any cases where they have used

02:48:34.080 --> 02:48:36.616
the their move on powers? Yes, we have

02:48:36.640 --> 02:48:38.536
seen circumstances where they have used

02:48:38.560 --> 02:48:39.576
their move on powers

02:48:39.600 --> 02:48:41.816
for for encampments.

02:48:41.840 --> 02:48:44.375
Yes, for a range of presentations in in

02:48:44.399 --> 02:48:46.216
public realm. Um, depending on the

02:48:46.240 --> 02:48:48.216
situation, they can choose to use it. We

02:48:48.240 --> 02:48:49.576
have seen them do that in the public

02:48:49.600 --> 02:48:51.976
realm.

02:48:52.000 --> 02:48:54.936
Any further questions counselors? Any

02:48:54.960 --> 02:48:56.696
further questions? Going once, going

02:48:56.720 --> 02:48:58.536
twice.

02:48:58.560 --> 02:49:01.255
No further questions.

02:49:01.279 --> 02:49:03.896


02:49:03.920 --> 02:49:06.375
 sorry, we now have a recommendation

02:49:06.399 --> 02:49:09.399
before us.

02:49:10.160 --> 02:49:11.896


02:49:11.920 --> 02:49:13.496
sorry, I believe there's an officer

02:49:13.520 --> 02:49:16.520
amendment to

02:49:17.439 --> 02:49:20.216
All right. So,

02:49:20.240 --> 02:49:21.896
do we have a recommendation before us

02:49:21.920 --> 02:49:24.920
and then  Yep.

02:49:24.960 --> 02:49:27.960
Yes. through you may there is an officer

02:49:28.560 --> 02:49:30.536
 recommendment amendment. It's a a

02:49:30.560 --> 02:49:32.136
technical amendment. The amendment

02:49:32.160 --> 02:49:35.016
reads, "Authorizes the CEO or their

02:49:35.040 --> 02:49:37.096
delegate to make minor amendments to

02:49:37.120 --> 02:49:39.656
attachment to the attachment that does

02:49:39.680 --> 02:49:42.616
not materially alter the intent of the

02:49:42.640 --> 02:49:45.096
local law amendment.  it is an

02:49:45.120 --> 02:49:48.120
amendment to option A and B should

02:49:48.240 --> 02:49:51.240
either of those options  be adopted by

02:49:52.880 --> 02:49:55.880
 council.  and it allow it allows

02:49:56.160 --> 02:49:59.160
for the correction of any typographical

02:50:00.000 --> 02:50:03.000
errors  that do not change the intent

02:50:04.000 --> 02:50:07.000
of the local law amendment.

02:50:12.160 --> 02:50:13.896
All right. So there's a technical

02:50:13.920 --> 02:50:16.920
amendment that has been adjusted

02:50:20.080 --> 02:50:23.080
that's now on the screen. Do we have

02:50:23.840 --> 02:50:25.335
a recommend? We have a recommendation

02:50:25.359 --> 02:50:27.656
before us. Is there a mover for one of

02:50:27.680 --> 02:50:29.016
those recommendations or something

02:50:29.040 --> 02:50:30.696
different?

02:50:30.720 --> 02:50:33.496
Deputy Mayor Mears, what would you like to

02:50:33.520 --> 02:50:34.536
do?

02:50:34.560 --> 02:50:37.415
Thank you. , Mayor Min, I would like

02:50:37.439 --> 02:50:40.439
to move a motion for the council to

02:50:41.439 --> 02:50:44.439
endorse option B.

02:50:44.800 --> 02:50:47.800
Option B. There's a mover for option B

02:50:48.960 --> 02:50:51.896
in that recommendation before us. So,

02:50:51.920 --> 02:50:53.816
and we have a seconder in councelor

02:50:53.840 --> 02:50:56.216
Tamman.

02:50:56.240 --> 02:50:58.455
Would the mover like to speak?

02:50:58.479 --> 02:51:01.176
He certainly would.

02:51:01.200 --> 02:51:04.200
, tonight we've had um and seen and

02:51:05.279 --> 02:51:07.496
experienced and felt the feeling and

02:51:07.520 --> 02:51:10.520
passion across our community on  this

02:51:10.720 --> 02:51:13.720
issue. And I would like to thank  the

02:51:14.640 --> 02:51:16.856
members of our community from both

02:51:16.880 --> 02:51:19.335
positions who've come and presented

02:51:19.359 --> 02:51:22.136
tonight  as I've said in a very

02:51:22.160 --> 02:51:25.016
passionate way and in a way that's 

02:51:25.040 --> 02:51:28.040
most important for  how we progress

02:51:28.800 --> 02:51:31.800
change within our community.

02:51:32.080 --> 02:51:35.080
Also, um I would like to commend  our

02:51:36.479 --> 02:51:39.335
council officers in particular Nelly

02:51:39.359 --> 02:51:41.496
Montigue for

02:51:41.520 --> 02:51:44.520
exhibiting her experience, knowledge and

02:51:45.600 --> 02:51:48.600
her indepth analysis of this issue over

02:51:48.880 --> 02:51:51.880
many months in particular. So,  I

02:51:52.479 --> 02:51:54.136
would thank you for that and commend you

02:51:54.160 --> 02:51:56.136
for your efforts.

02:51:56.160 --> 02:51:58.216
If we can go back in time to February

02:51:58.240 --> 02:52:00.776
when the original

02:52:00.800 --> 02:52:03.800
um motion was put by councelor Hardy.

02:52:04.800 --> 02:52:07.096
At that particular time it was endorsed

02:52:07.120 --> 02:52:10.120
and we went down a path for some

02:52:11.680 --> 02:52:14.680
8 or nine months of meticulous analysis.

02:52:16.399 --> 02:52:19.399
We have as a council group

02:52:20.479 --> 02:52:23.479
pulled apart, looked at and  examined

02:52:25.200 --> 02:52:28.200
every single element of the proposal.

02:52:29.840 --> 02:52:32.840
And tonight we land on a position where

02:52:33.200 --> 02:52:36.200
the key element of that motion, which

02:52:37.040 --> 02:52:40.040
was the removal of the exemptions for

02:52:41.439 --> 02:52:43.096
camping,

02:52:43.120 --> 02:52:46.120
is no longer in this proposal. In option

02:52:46.640 --> 02:52:49.640
B, it has been removed.

02:52:50.800 --> 02:52:52.856
For some of us, that is not an ideal

02:52:52.880 --> 02:52:55.880
position. Our position was that those

02:52:56.319 --> 02:52:59.096
exemptions should be removed. It was at

02:52:59.120 --> 02:53:02.120
the request of the police and also at

02:53:02.560 --> 02:53:05.560
the um request or the decision of of a

02:53:07.040 --> 02:53:10.040
very experienced vet veteran  police

02:53:10.399 --> 02:53:12.536
officer in councelor Hardy and his

02:53:12.560 --> 02:53:15.560
assessment. and we agreed that that

02:53:16.000 --> 02:53:19.000
would be required. Nevertheless, we are

02:53:19.840 --> 02:53:22.216
now at a position where

02:53:22.240 --> 02:53:25.016
um through consultation, through

02:53:25.040 --> 02:53:28.040
discussion, through  many many

02:53:28.560 --> 02:53:30.375
conversations that have happened over

02:53:30.399 --> 02:53:33.176
the last 9 or 10 months with our

02:53:33.200 --> 02:53:35.496
community members who've told us how

02:53:35.520 --> 02:53:37.816
they feel about the issues, the

02:53:37.840 --> 02:53:39.576
behaviors that we're looking to address

02:53:39.600 --> 02:53:42.600
and change. We've now come to a position

02:53:42.880 --> 02:53:44.616
which

02:53:44.640 --> 02:53:47.640
in my view this is the best solution

02:53:48.080 --> 02:53:51.080
going forward. It is a difficult

02:53:51.120 --> 02:53:54.120
position for council to come to to make

02:53:54.240 --> 02:53:57.240
this decision and  whilst

02:53:58.640 --> 02:54:01.640
whilst many people a number of people

02:54:01.680 --> 02:54:04.455
have a a different view to this it needs

02:54:04.479 --> 02:54:07.479
to be said doing nothing in this space

02:54:07.760 --> 02:54:10.375
is not acceptable. It is not enough for

02:54:10.399 --> 02:54:13.096
us to say we'll put our faith in what

02:54:13.120 --> 02:54:16.120
we've got at the moment which is  not

02:54:16.960 --> 02:54:19.960
suitable or doesn't  bring about

02:54:20.080 --> 02:54:22.776
changes in behavior in people who are

02:54:22.800 --> 02:54:25.800
antisocial who are exhibiting criminal

02:54:25.920 --> 02:54:28.856
activities they need those behaviors

02:54:28.880 --> 02:54:31.880
need to be addressed. Can I say there is

02:54:32.240 --> 02:54:34.856
not one counselor

02:54:34.880 --> 02:54:37.880
in this room who opposes any assistance

02:54:38.880 --> 02:54:41.415
to the homeless, the people who are less

02:54:41.439 --> 02:54:44.375
fortunate than us. Everyone here has

02:54:44.399 --> 02:54:46.936
demonstrated that there was a unanimous

02:54:46.960 --> 02:54:49.736
vote for the safety round table that was

02:54:49.760 --> 02:54:52.760
brought into the chamber by councelor

02:54:52.960 --> 02:54:55.335
Buckingham and that has been a

02:54:55.359 --> 02:54:58.136
consistent position since I've been on

02:54:58.160 --> 02:55:01.160
council. So it is not correct to say

02:55:02.000 --> 02:55:04.375
that we don't care about homeless

02:55:04.399 --> 02:55:07.335
people, that we don't care about those

02:55:07.359 --> 02:55:09.496
that are not are less fortunate than us.

02:55:09.520 --> 02:55:11.016
That is simply not correct.

02:55:11.040 --> 02:55:14.040
We are at time deputy members.  would

02:55:14.240 --> 02:55:17.016
you like a two-minute extension?

02:55:17.040 --> 02:55:19.016
 no, I'll come back later.

02:55:19.040 --> 02:55:21.255
Okay, thank you.

02:55:21.279 --> 02:55:23.016
So the mover has spoken. Would the

02:55:23.040 --> 02:55:25.896
second wish to speak?

02:55:25.920 --> 02:55:28.776
Um, this is an important topic and I

02:55:28.800 --> 02:55:31.096
actually prepared something to  to for

02:55:31.120 --> 02:55:34.120
the to address. , well, I'll read it

02:55:34.560 --> 02:55:35.976
quite quickly because otherwise I'll run

02:55:36.000 --> 02:55:38.056
out of time. So, I'm sorry if I will be

02:55:38.080 --> 02:55:40.536
going fast. So, Port Philip has always

02:55:40.560 --> 02:55:42.216
taken a compassionate and practical

02:55:42.240 --> 02:55:43.496
approach to supporting people

02:55:43.520 --> 02:55:45.496
experiencing homelessness. through

02:55:45.520 --> 02:55:47.415
programs like feel safe be safe our

02:55:47.439 --> 02:55:49.016
housing and homeless strategy we just

02:55:49.040 --> 02:55:51.255
adopted port flip zero we continue to

02:55:51.279 --> 02:55:53.656
work closely with service providers to

02:55:53.680 --> 02:55:55.415
address the real cause of rough

02:55:55.439 --> 02:55:57.576
splicking this approach is not going to

02:55:57.600 --> 02:56:00.375
change late last year as we were elected

02:56:00.399 --> 02:56:02.056
we faced the situation in Jackson Street

02:56:02.080 --> 02:56:04.375
car park or fit street where 10 to 15 or

02:56:04.399 --> 02:56:06.616
even more individuals established an

02:56:06.640 --> 02:56:08.616
incumbent for seven weeks residents and

02:56:08.640 --> 02:56:10.696
traders living nearby experienced

02:56:10.720 --> 02:56:12.616
serious impact visible drug use rubbish

02:56:12.640 --> 02:56:14.136
noise aggressive behavior and people

02:56:14.160 --> 02:56:15.656
defecating in retained on private

02:56:15.680 --> 02:56:18.056
property. Many residents told us they

02:56:18.080 --> 02:56:19.976
felt unsafe and able to sleep. They came

02:56:20.000 --> 02:56:21.896
to the chamber to tell us with passion

02:56:21.920 --> 02:56:23.816
that their concerns were real and we

02:56:23.840 --> 02:56:26.375
must be acknowledged. For me, it is not

02:56:26.399 --> 02:56:29.335
acceptable that pe people feel unsafe in

02:56:29.359 --> 02:56:32.295
their own hoMears. Let me be crystal

02:56:32.319 --> 02:56:34.536
clear. Homelessness is not a crime, but

02:56:34.560 --> 02:56:36.375
threatening behavior, illegal activity,

02:56:36.399 --> 02:56:38.216
and serious amnity impacts are not part

02:56:38.240 --> 02:56:39.896
of City life. There are problems that

02:56:39.920 --> 02:56:41.736
require action, and this council must be

02:56:41.760 --> 02:56:43.976
equipped to act. Council responded with

02:56:44.000 --> 02:56:46.056
increased patrols and intensive

02:56:46.080 --> 02:56:47.816
engagements by housing and drug and

02:56:47.840 --> 02:56:49.016
alcohol and mental health service

02:56:49.040 --> 02:56:51.016
supported by Victoria Police. Over time,

02:56:51.040 --> 02:56:52.856
the campus moved on. They appeared

02:56:52.880 --> 02:56:54.696
elsewhere like in Woodstock Street. This

02:56:54.720 --> 02:56:56.375
incident highlighted gaps in our ability

02:56:56.399 --> 02:56:58.936
to respond when the health's welfare and

02:56:58.960 --> 02:57:00.936
amenity impacts become severe. Since

02:57:00.960 --> 02:57:02.936
then we established a community round

02:57:02.960 --> 02:57:05.255
safety round table successfully run by

02:57:05.279 --> 02:57:07.896
Ian Gray pro bono and adopt most of its

02:57:07.920 --> 02:57:09.736
recommendation developed and operate an

02:57:09.760 --> 02:57:11.976
operating protocol with Victoria pol and

02:57:12.000 --> 02:57:13.576
consulted with community on possible

02:57:13.600 --> 02:57:15.576
amounts to local laws. Madden house is

02:57:15.600 --> 02:57:18.375
about to provide a place to live for 26

02:57:18.399 --> 02:57:20.216
people experienced homelessness. We've

02:57:20.240 --> 02:57:22.455
got to do more for example as a priority

02:57:22.479 --> 02:57:24.616
is to find a place assembly for these

02:57:24.640 --> 02:57:26.536
people. We hear the committee's concern

02:57:26.560 --> 02:57:28.295
and regarded of the final decision

02:57:28.319 --> 02:57:30.375
tonight, council will continue to invest

02:57:30.399 --> 02:57:32.616
in outreach, support programs, and

02:57:32.640 --> 02:57:34.295
long-term solutions to homelessness,

02:57:34.319 --> 02:57:36.455
including programs with indigenous

02:57:36.479 --> 02:57:39.016
people and organizations. But we must

02:57:39.040 --> 02:57:40.936
ensure residents and traders and

02:57:40.960 --> 02:57:43.016
visitors are protected from serious

02:57:43.040 --> 02:57:45.415
safety and amni

02:57:45.439 --> 02:57:47.016
impact and that our officers have a

02:57:47.040 --> 02:57:49.176
clear framework to act in high-risisk

02:57:49.200 --> 02:57:51.896
situation. I've spoken with many of our

02:57:51.920 --> 02:57:54.136
residents and traders. We are all we

02:57:54.160 --> 02:57:55.496
were all elected to improve community

02:57:55.520 --> 02:57:57.816
safety in our City. I hear them as

02:57:57.840 --> 02:57:59.496
Melbourne's Lord Mayor Nick Reese said

02:57:59.520 --> 02:58:01.255
in the paper yesterday. A great City

02:58:01.279 --> 02:58:04.279
begins with with being a safe City where

02:58:04.399 --> 02:58:07.016
people feel safe. So tonight's council

02:58:07.040 --> 02:58:09.656
reconsidering to begin the statuto

02:58:09.680 --> 02:58:12.680
process to introduce a new part A4 as

02:58:12.960 --> 02:58:14.856
per the documents. Victoria Police

02:58:14.880 --> 02:58:16.936
supports the change because they see the

02:58:16.960 --> 02:58:18.375
harm on the ground. Some service

02:58:18.399 --> 02:58:20.295
providers are satisfied with what's

02:58:20.319 --> 02:58:21.976
currently in place and other opposed

02:58:22.000 --> 02:58:23.496
challenges because they fear it could

02:58:23.520 --> 02:58:25.976
damage trust. We hear them, we respect

02:58:26.000 --> 02:58:27.576
them and we keep investing in their

02:58:27.600 --> 02:58:29.816
services they deliver regardless of

02:58:29.840 --> 02:58:31.576
transition. But leadership is not

02:58:31.600 --> 02:58:33.096
choosing one side or the other.

02:58:33.120 --> 02:58:34.936
Leadership is protecting residents from

02:58:34.960 --> 02:58:37.176
intimidation and fear while protecting

02:58:37.200 --> 02:58:38.936
vulnerable people from we have time.

02:58:38.960 --> 02:58:39.976
Councelor Timman

02:58:40.000 --> 02:58:41.736
we have both we have the chance to do

02:58:41.760 --> 02:58:42.455
both.

02:58:42.479 --> 02:58:44.936
Great. Well summarize in that time

02:58:44.960 --> 02:58:47.960
limit. Thank you councelor Timman.

02:58:48.000 --> 02:58:49.656
Right down to the second. Good. Good

02:58:49.680 --> 02:58:52.616
choice.  we have had the mover and the

02:58:52.640 --> 02:58:55.640
seconder. Is there any opposition to

02:58:55.840 --> 02:58:58.536
this motion?

02:58:58.560 --> 02:59:01.496
Anyone wish to speak in opposition?

02:59:01.520 --> 02:59:04.520
Councelor Crawford.

02:59:04.800 --> 02:59:06.616
This is not a problem unique to the City

02:59:06.640 --> 02:59:09.415
of Port Phillip.  and for many 

02:59:09.439 --> 02:59:11.496
council areas, they are grappling with

02:59:11.520 --> 02:59:13.816
an increase in homelessness, but also

02:59:13.840 --> 02:59:16.840
antisocial behavior. Um we're seeing it

02:59:16.960 --> 02:59:18.936
in various ways across the country in

02:59:18.960 --> 02:59:21.656
people behaving in more erratic and

02:59:21.680 --> 02:59:24.680
perhaps violent um ways. Um and I am as

02:59:25.200 --> 02:59:27.496
part of the M9 I know that all the other

02:59:27.520 --> 02:59:29.176
inner City councils are grappling

02:59:29.200 --> 02:59:30.776
particularly um in this space where

02:59:30.800 --> 02:59:33.415
there are a lot of people with um

02:59:33.439 --> 02:59:36.056
complex needs.

02:59:36.080 --> 02:59:39.080
But I wanted to say I can't support this

02:59:39.520 --> 02:59:42.455
because I actually think our current

02:59:42.479 --> 02:59:45.479
laws allow us to do what's needed. But

02:59:45.920 --> 02:59:48.920
what we do need to do is this local law

02:59:49.439 --> 02:59:52.056
needs to stand beside all the other

02:59:52.080 --> 02:59:53.496
things that we've actually just voted on

02:59:53.520 --> 02:59:55.896
to step up and do actually the

02:59:55.920 --> 02:59:58.216
investment in those other services,

02:59:58.240 --> 03:00:00.136
those other approaches that actually

03:00:00.160 --> 03:00:02.295
could change the game.

03:00:02.319 --> 03:00:05.319
Um, so we are doing so many things and I

03:00:06.240 --> 03:00:07.656
don't want to sit here and pretend to

03:00:07.680 --> 03:00:09.335
the community that this change in local

03:00:09.359 --> 03:00:11.016
law is going to solve any of the

03:00:11.040 --> 03:00:12.536
criminal behaviors or the antisocial

03:00:12.560 --> 03:00:14.936
behavior that you're experiencing. And

03:00:14.960 --> 03:00:17.016
 um and of course we want safety, but

03:00:17.040 --> 03:00:18.856
that safety coMears through actually I

03:00:18.880 --> 03:00:21.880
think a much more um nuanced um

03:00:22.240 --> 03:00:24.295
compassionate sophisticated way of

03:00:24.319 --> 03:00:26.216
trying to um grapple with this very

03:00:26.240 --> 03:00:28.455
complex wicked problem that is happening

03:00:28.479 --> 03:00:31.479
across the country.

03:00:31.840 --> 03:00:34.216
I I just can't I think our laws are

03:00:34.240 --> 03:00:35.976
adequate to deal with what we need to

03:00:36.000 --> 03:00:37.816
deal. We've been able to remove any

03:00:37.840 --> 03:00:39.656
level of changing the definition to

03:00:39.680 --> 03:00:42.295
encampment equipment does not matter.

03:00:42.319 --> 03:00:44.696
It's still the um excess furniture is

03:00:44.720 --> 03:00:46.696
what you have always and can have been

03:00:46.720 --> 03:00:49.720
this year able to remove. Um so we've

03:00:50.800 --> 03:00:53.800
developed a protocol a clearer approach.

03:00:54.080 --> 03:00:55.976
We're working more collaboratively. I

03:00:56.000 --> 03:00:57.576
think all of these things are the things

03:00:57.600 --> 03:01:00.600
we need to do. um the changing a few

03:01:00.720 --> 03:01:03.016
definitions um and making more implicit

03:01:03.040 --> 03:01:05.896
what we do in practice already.  I I

03:01:05.920 --> 03:01:07.896
think it's unnecessary and it's also um

03:01:07.920 --> 03:01:09.656
giving false flags to our community that

03:01:09.680 --> 03:01:11.096
this is actually the change for the

03:01:11.120 --> 03:01:13.496
criminal behavior. We actually need more

03:01:13.520 --> 03:01:15.415
people to be recruited to the police and

03:01:15.439 --> 03:01:17.736
we need more police and we need more and

03:01:17.760 --> 03:01:19.335
here's my radical personal view. I think

03:01:19.359 --> 03:01:21.335
we need to look at for a small certain

03:01:21.359 --> 03:01:23.096
group in the community cannot cope

03:01:23.120 --> 03:01:25.016
living with their complex needs and

03:01:25.040 --> 03:01:27.096
community and we need a

03:01:27.120 --> 03:01:28.776
am I out of time? We are out of time.

03:01:28.800 --> 03:01:31.415
All right. Compassionate separated care

03:01:31.439 --> 03:01:33.576
and that would actually change the game.

03:01:33.600 --> 03:01:36.056
Thank you. Any  we've had a speaker

03:01:36.080 --> 03:01:39.080
against speaker four. Any speakers for

03:01:39.600 --> 03:01:42.600
who wish to speak now? Councelor cons 

03:01:43.279 --> 03:01:46.279
sorry councelor Hardy.

03:01:46.479 --> 03:01:48.375
I will support option B as I regard it

03:01:48.399 --> 03:01:50.056
as the best outcome for the whole of our

03:01:50.080 --> 03:01:52.616
community. It's been devised over months

03:01:52.640 --> 03:01:54.216
of consultation and work with our

03:01:54.240 --> 03:01:56.455
solicitors. The council has acted

03:01:56.479 --> 03:01:58.536
reasonably and responsibly taking in all

03:01:58.560 --> 03:02:00.536
perspectives from the round table in

03:02:00.560 --> 03:02:03.560
increasing their funding and dialogue as

03:02:04.399 --> 03:02:06.536
well as the lived experience of our

03:02:06.560 --> 03:02:09.560
residents impacted by encampments.

03:02:12.080 --> 03:02:13.656
You had plenty of surplus time.

03:02:13.680 --> 03:02:16.680
Councelor Hardy.  speaker against

03:02:17.439 --> 03:02:19.496
before we then open up more broadly.

03:02:19.520 --> 03:02:22.520
Speaker against councelor Holidayiday.

03:02:22.640 --> 03:02:25.640
Thank you mayor. Um over the last year,

03:02:26.399 --> 03:02:29.399
I think we have come from the the depths

03:02:31.680 --> 03:02:33.496
of the issues with encampments in

03:02:33.520 --> 03:02:36.520
Jackson Street, um which had a terrible

03:02:36.960 --> 03:02:39.960
impact on the residents there. And we

03:02:40.640 --> 03:02:43.415
have as a council and in partnership

03:02:43.439 --> 03:02:45.576
with our with our community service

03:02:45.600 --> 03:02:48.600
providers and police, we have used our

03:02:48.880 --> 03:02:51.880
existing powers to address those

03:02:52.960 --> 03:02:55.816
encampments.

03:02:55.840 --> 03:02:57.976
We are

03:02:58.000 --> 03:02:59.736
while doing that we are still seeing

03:02:59.760 --> 03:03:01.576
issues on the street. We are seeing

03:03:01.600 --> 03:03:04.056
issues of antisocial behavior which is

03:03:04.080 --> 03:03:06.536
covered in our local laws. We are seeing

03:03:06.560 --> 03:03:09.176
issues with criminal behaviors

03:03:09.200 --> 03:03:11.656
which we would hope that the police

03:03:11.680 --> 03:03:14.680
would be able to address for us. Um and

03:03:15.439 --> 03:03:18.439
we still see issues sporadically with

03:03:19.840 --> 03:03:22.840
encampments but everywhere we still have

03:03:23.200 --> 03:03:25.335
rough sleeping.

03:03:25.359 --> 03:03:28.359
By our own um you know admission here,

03:03:29.359 --> 03:03:31.976
we can only hope to house some small

03:03:32.000 --> 03:03:34.696
number of rust sleepers in the amount of

03:03:34.720 --> 03:03:37.720
housing we have available. So we are not

03:03:38.319 --> 03:03:40.856
going to in the short term solve rough

03:03:40.880 --> 03:03:43.880
sleeping in our City and this local law

03:03:45.200 --> 03:03:48.200
is not going to

03:03:48.240 --> 03:03:51.240
compel people into housing that does not

03:03:51.279 --> 03:03:54.279
exist um in our City. And I there is a

03:03:56.399 --> 03:03:59.096
hope that this local law will fix these

03:03:59.120 --> 03:04:00.375
other problems. The problems of

03:04:00.399 --> 03:04:02.455
antisocial behavior, of criminal

03:04:02.479 --> 03:04:05.016
behavior, of rough sleeping. I think

03:04:05.040 --> 03:04:07.576
we've heard tonight that these are these

03:04:07.600 --> 03:04:10.375
are hopes and these are not facts. The

03:04:10.399 --> 03:04:13.399
the antisocial behavior unfortunately

03:04:14.560 --> 03:04:17.560
will still exist. the um the criminal

03:04:17.680 --> 03:04:19.816
behavior unless something changes

03:04:19.840 --> 03:04:21.976
marketkedly with  Victoria Police will

03:04:22.000 --> 03:04:23.896
still exist and rough sleeping will

03:04:23.920 --> 03:04:26.920
still exist. There are time we need to

03:04:28.319 --> 03:04:29.816
use

03:04:29.840 --> 03:04:32.295
our current time council

03:04:32.319 --> 03:04:33.415
to address these.

03:04:33.439 --> 03:04:34.295
Thank you.

03:04:34.319 --> 03:04:37.176
 speaker again speaker for any speaker

03:04:37.200 --> 03:04:39.576
for

03:04:39.600 --> 03:04:40.536
council.

03:04:40.560 --> 03:04:42.455
I don't know if I'm for against I would

03:04:42.479 --> 03:04:44.616
just like to speak to the item.

03:04:44.640 --> 03:04:45.016
Okay.

03:04:45.040 --> 03:04:45.736
Happy.

03:04:45.760 --> 03:04:48.760
Look our community has a range of views

03:04:48.960 --> 03:04:50.696
on this. I wish we could actually

03:04:50.720 --> 03:04:53.335
simplify. I find what's written in front

03:04:53.359 --> 03:04:56.056
of us quite challenging and we have a

03:04:56.080 --> 03:04:59.016
state government police force that isn't

03:04:59.040 --> 03:05:00.536
necessarily going to look at the book

03:05:00.560 --> 03:05:01.656
and make sure that everyone's following

03:05:01.680 --> 03:05:03.096
the rules. I think we should be looking

03:05:03.120 --> 03:05:05.176
at this a little bit more across the

03:05:05.200 --> 03:05:07.736
board at the key issues that we don't

03:05:07.760 --> 03:05:10.696
have enough housing. And I appreciate

03:05:10.720 --> 03:05:12.455
that the people with better experience

03:05:12.479 --> 03:05:14.295
in homelessness have come tonight and

03:05:14.319 --> 03:05:16.375
explained that people feel more

03:05:16.399 --> 03:05:18.375
comfortable sleeping in groups. And that

03:05:18.399 --> 03:05:21.399
really worries me that we would um be um

03:05:22.960 --> 03:05:25.016
interrupting that next level of

03:05:25.040 --> 03:05:28.040
survival. And it

03:05:28.479 --> 03:05:31.479
option B here. Um I think it's important

03:05:32.080 --> 03:05:34.776
that we point out that it hangs on one

03:05:34.800 --> 03:05:37.255
word and that's the word and. It's

03:05:37.279 --> 03:05:40.279
saying that um

03:05:40.319 --> 03:05:43.016
let me just get it up in front of me.

03:05:43.040 --> 03:05:46.040
Where you at?

03:05:46.640 --> 03:05:49.016
I don't have it for me. But um that that

03:05:49.040 --> 03:05:51.816
it's doing these and if they have this

03:05:51.840 --> 03:05:53.816
behavior, but that word gets a little

03:05:53.840 --> 03:05:55.896
bit lost and I'm worried that there'll

03:05:55.920 --> 03:05:57.656
be people who we have to work through

03:05:57.680 --> 03:05:59.335
this and make sure that it's operating

03:05:59.359 --> 03:06:01.335
correctly because I do believe in it. I

03:06:01.359 --> 03:06:02.696
do believe that we need to target the

03:06:02.720 --> 03:06:05.656
behaviors because it's not the homeless.

03:06:05.680 --> 03:06:07.016
There's people who are just living there

03:06:07.040 --> 03:06:08.696
and minding their own business and just

03:06:08.720 --> 03:06:10.696
trying to get through life. And then

03:06:10.720 --> 03:06:11.816
there's the ones that are causing

03:06:11.840 --> 03:06:13.576
trouble. And I want to focus on the ones

03:06:13.600 --> 03:06:14.696
that are causing trouble, that are

03:06:14.720 --> 03:06:16.056
causing all the issues that I hear the

03:06:16.080 --> 03:06:18.375
people coming here tonight that this is

03:06:18.399 --> 03:06:21.399
not how um the social code of people um

03:06:22.720 --> 03:06:24.536
interacting as humans. We want people to

03:06:24.560 --> 03:06:27.415
be treated like humans on both sides.

03:06:27.439 --> 03:06:29.736
Um,

03:06:29.760 --> 03:06:32.136
I'm concerned that the items will be

03:06:32.160 --> 03:06:35.160
taken um and working through that

03:06:35.520 --> 03:06:38.375
process, but I was  satisfied with the

03:06:38.399 --> 03:06:40.375
answer tonight that we do a great deal

03:06:40.399 --> 03:06:42.295
care making sure that the items are

03:06:42.319 --> 03:06:45.319
looked after and we do work through the

03:06:45.359 --> 03:06:47.335
agencies to try and locate people.

03:06:47.359 --> 03:06:48.936
You're at time council console.

03:06:48.960 --> 03:06:49.816
Okay. I don't think that's going to

03:06:49.840 --> 03:06:52.295
work. All right. Thank you very much.

03:06:52.319 --> 03:06:55.255
, any other speakers for this item

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before us? Councelor Buckingham. ,

03:06:57.520 --> 03:06:59.736
sorry, speaking to the item.

03:06:59.760 --> 03:07:02.536
Yep.

03:07:02.560 --> 03:07:04.696
Everyone in the City of Port Phillip has

03:07:04.720 --> 03:07:07.656
a right to safety and

03:07:07.680 --> 03:07:10.295
every counselor around this table is

03:07:10.319 --> 03:07:12.455
committed to making the City of Port

03:07:12.479 --> 03:07:14.616
Phillip a safer place for everyone, the

03:07:14.640 --> 03:07:16.776
housed and the unhoused.

03:07:16.800 --> 03:07:19.800
We have just passed a new community

03:07:20.000 --> 03:07:22.216
safety plan, a new housing and

03:07:22.240 --> 03:07:24.776
homelessness plan. We are actioning Ian

03:07:24.800 --> 03:07:27.016
Gay's recommendations. We have spent

03:07:27.040 --> 03:07:30.040
countless hours with Victoria Police,

03:07:30.479 --> 03:07:32.936
with the community service organizations

03:07:32.960 --> 03:07:35.096
working on solutions that will make us

03:07:35.120 --> 03:07:38.120
all safer. If there is an action that

03:07:39.520 --> 03:07:42.216
will improve community safety,

03:07:42.240 --> 03:07:44.536
I am putting my hand up for it. I'm the

03:07:44.560 --> 03:07:46.616
first person to jump on it and to pursue

03:07:46.640 --> 03:07:49.640
it. My issue with changing our local

03:07:49.680 --> 03:07:52.536
laws is I do not believe it is going to

03:07:52.560 --> 03:07:55.496
make us safer.

03:07:55.520 --> 03:07:57.736
I in fact believe it could jeopardize

03:07:57.760 --> 03:08:00.760
our safety. And I won't go in and about

03:08:02.160 --> 03:08:04.455
the human risk and the human cost of

03:08:04.479 --> 03:08:06.056
changing our local laws because we've

03:08:06.080 --> 03:08:07.816
heard from people tonight with lived

03:08:07.840 --> 03:08:10.536
experience of living on the street. But

03:08:10.560 --> 03:08:13.560
what I will talk about is the risk to

03:08:14.000 --> 03:08:16.375
the City of Port Phillip. And I'm not

03:08:16.399 --> 03:08:18.295
making this up. We can actually learn

03:08:18.319 --> 03:08:20.375
from the experiences of the Morton Bay

03:08:20.399 --> 03:08:22.856
Council in Queensland that pursued

03:08:22.880 --> 03:08:24.936
similar changes.

03:08:24.960 --> 03:08:27.096
You just need to Google and look at ABC

03:08:27.120 --> 03:08:29.736
News to see where these changes have led

03:08:29.760 --> 03:08:32.760
them. It's led them to million a million

03:08:33.600 --> 03:08:35.976
dollars of implementation cost. That's

03:08:36.000 --> 03:08:38.536
staffing and legal fees. It's been held

03:08:38.560 --> 03:08:41.560
up in the Supreme Court. And there are

03:08:41.920 --> 03:08:44.920
harrowing accounts of homeless people

03:08:45.279 --> 03:08:47.255
having their precious possessions thrown

03:08:47.279 --> 03:08:50.279
away. This risk of legal challenge,

03:08:51.600 --> 03:08:54.600
ballooning costs, and human costs is too

03:08:55.520 --> 03:08:58.520
much for the City of Port Phillip.

03:08:58.560 --> 03:09:01.560
We have a very very full dance card in

03:09:01.840 --> 03:09:04.776
implementing our community safety plan,

03:09:04.800 --> 03:09:07.800
implementing our homelessness planing.

03:09:08.399 --> 03:09:10.375
Stay focused on the actions that will

03:09:10.399 --> 03:09:11.335
make a difference.

03:09:11.359 --> 03:09:14.359
Thank you, Councelor Buckingham.

03:09:15.200 --> 03:09:18.200
Any other speakers to the item?

03:09:23.680 --> 03:09:26.680
No. Councelor is councelor Jay over to

03:09:27.040 --> 03:09:29.896
you.

03:09:29.920 --> 03:09:32.920
Thank you. Um thank you mayor. Um there

03:09:33.520 --> 03:09:35.736
are some that believe that the exemption

03:09:35.760 --> 03:09:38.616
clause in itself is illegal.

03:09:38.640 --> 03:09:40.936
Um we're not here to debate the legality

03:09:40.960 --> 03:09:43.896
or the Supreme Court, you you know

03:09:43.920 --> 03:09:46.920
legality of these things. We we we are

03:09:47.200 --> 03:09:49.656
sitting here today and um unfortunately

03:09:49.680 --> 03:09:52.375
no change is not an option. Um, if if we

03:09:52.399 --> 03:09:54.056
deal with no change, it just feels like

03:09:54.080 --> 03:09:56.056
groundhog day for our residents all over

03:09:56.080 --> 03:09:58.856
again. What we're dealing here with on

03:09:58.880 --> 03:10:01.176
our streets is a sum total of decades of

03:10:01.200 --> 03:10:04.200
government, um, , poor decisions, cuts

03:10:04.479 --> 03:10:07.335
to funding, cuts to mental health, cuts

03:10:07.359 --> 03:10:10.216
to local cuts to police. Our law local

03:10:10.240 --> 03:10:12.375
laws are clunky. The police themselves

03:10:12.399 --> 03:10:14.696
asked for help to streamline the process

03:10:14.720 --> 03:10:17.255
just so they could do their job better,

03:10:17.279 --> 03:10:19.255
just so they could support the community

03:10:19.279 --> 03:10:22.279
better. The intent here, the hope for

03:10:22.399 --> 03:10:24.856
this option B was a step towards

03:10:24.880 --> 03:10:27.096
collaboration with the community.

03:10:27.120 --> 03:10:28.696
There's been a lot of goodwill and a lot

03:10:28.720 --> 03:10:31.016
of good faith shown in supporting the

03:10:31.040 --> 03:10:34.040
services  allocating even more money

03:10:34.080 --> 03:10:37.080
to homelessness and and to strategies to

03:10:37.200 --> 03:10:40.200
support our our um need community. U the

03:10:42.080 --> 03:10:44.856
truth is option B is behavior driven.

03:10:44.880 --> 03:10:47.415
It's that simple. If people are behaving

03:10:47.439 --> 03:10:49.976
poorly, it gets activated. People are

03:10:50.000 --> 03:10:52.216
acting respectfully on our streets. No

03:10:52.240 --> 03:10:54.856
one's got anything to worry about. I

03:10:54.880 --> 03:10:57.880
support option B, Grandm.

03:11:03.520 --> 03:11:06.520
Thank you, Councelor J.

03:11:06.960 --> 03:11:09.960
I might speak to this item.

03:11:11.760 --> 03:11:14.760
We can start the timer.

03:11:15.760 --> 03:11:18.536
, you know, the reality is we're

03:11:18.560 --> 03:11:20.056
facing a bit of a wicked problem here,

03:11:20.080 --> 03:11:22.295
right? , nothing. We, you know, we've

03:11:22.319 --> 03:11:24.216
got a section of the community that

03:11:24.240 --> 03:11:25.976
think it's going to be utopia if we do

03:11:26.000 --> 03:11:27.016
something. A section of the community

03:11:27.040 --> 03:11:28.776
that thinks it's going to be dystopia.

03:11:28.800 --> 03:11:31.576
The reality is it's going to be neither.

03:11:31.600 --> 03:11:34.600
But we need a spectrum of tools that we

03:11:35.279 --> 03:11:38.279
can have on offer. a spectrum of tools

03:11:38.560 --> 03:11:40.295
from the early intervention and the

03:11:40.319 --> 03:11:42.136
preventative work that we're doing that

03:11:42.160 --> 03:11:45.160
rightfully we have been recognized for

03:11:45.520 --> 03:11:48.375
to a spectrum of tools around where are

03:11:48.399 --> 03:11:51.399
the acceptable behavior triggers.

03:11:51.600 --> 03:11:54.600
Option B takes a behavioral approach. It

03:11:55.359 --> 03:11:58.056
takes away the situation of someone who

03:11:58.080 --> 03:12:00.136
for whatever reason may be rough

03:12:00.160 --> 03:12:03.160
sleeping and focuses on behaviors.

03:12:04.240 --> 03:12:07.176
Behaviors around an adverse amenity

03:12:07.200 --> 03:12:10.200
impact or a risk to safety or

03:12:10.479 --> 03:12:12.696
well-being.

03:12:12.720 --> 03:12:15.720
Those triggers focus on behaviors.

03:12:17.439 --> 03:12:19.896
And it's a focus on behaviors that we

03:12:19.920 --> 03:12:22.856
need to remember here.

03:12:22.880 --> 03:12:25.880
We have a community that has a wide

03:12:25.920 --> 03:12:28.455
array of views and I've always said we

03:12:28.479 --> 03:12:30.056
should have a wide array of views on

03:12:30.080 --> 03:12:31.255
this because we don't necessarily want

03:12:31.279 --> 03:12:34.279
to go to an extreme in either direction.

03:12:34.560 --> 03:12:37.096
But when we look at behaviors, there

03:12:37.120 --> 03:12:40.120
should be a common understanding of what

03:12:40.960 --> 03:12:43.960
is acceptable and what is unacceptable

03:12:44.000 --> 03:12:47.000
from a behavioral perspective. And that

03:12:47.120 --> 03:12:49.736
is why I believe there is merit in

03:12:49.760 --> 03:12:52.760
exploring option B. Option B from here

03:12:54.399 --> 03:12:57.016
the process will be further consultation

03:12:57.040 --> 03:12:59.896
to final adoption  when it coMears back

03:12:59.920 --> 03:13:02.776
to the chamber in the new year. Option B

03:13:02.800 --> 03:13:05.176
is about behaviors and we can then take

03:13:05.200 --> 03:13:08.200
a behavioral approach and take the sting

03:13:08.800 --> 03:13:11.255
out of people who might be in an adverse

03:13:11.279 --> 03:13:14.279
situation. And I'm completely on time.

03:13:19.520 --> 03:13:22.136
All righty. Would the mover wish to

03:13:22.160 --> 03:13:23.656
close?

03:13:23.680 --> 03:13:26.680
I would. Thank you. In closing, um just

03:13:27.920 --> 03:13:30.215
a few brief comments.

03:13:30.239 --> 03:13:33.239
when I came on to council um I wanted to

03:13:34.479 --> 03:13:37.479
do things for my community  of

03:13:37.920 --> 03:13:40.920
Lakeside Ward and also as I understood

03:13:41.040 --> 03:13:44.040
it the responsibilities of a counselor

03:13:44.080 --> 03:13:46.776
is across the City of Port Phillip for

03:13:46.800 --> 03:13:49.736
us so that was for everyone

03:13:49.760 --> 03:13:52.215
in going through the process that we've

03:13:52.239 --> 03:13:54.455
gone through in the late late 8 to n

03:13:54.479 --> 03:13:57.096
months  with my fellow counselors I've

03:13:57.120 --> 03:13:59.176
learned a lot about them and I've

03:13:59.200 --> 03:14:00.375
probably learned a A little bit more

03:14:00.399 --> 03:14:02.776
about myself.

03:14:02.800 --> 03:14:05.176
I believe every single person in the

03:14:05.200 --> 03:14:08.056
council has a good heart and wants the

03:14:08.080 --> 03:14:10.136
best for those people who are less

03:14:10.160 --> 03:14:13.160
fortunate than us and homeless people.

03:14:13.600 --> 03:14:16.295
The issue of behaviors needs to be

03:14:16.319 --> 03:14:19.319
addressed. I fear we are at a crossroad

03:14:19.520 --> 03:14:22.520
here that potentially we do nothing,

03:14:22.720 --> 03:14:25.176
potentially we say no, we'll kick the

03:14:25.200 --> 03:14:27.656
can down the road and hope for the best.

03:14:27.680 --> 03:14:29.576
That isn't me. That's not what I'm

03:14:29.600 --> 03:14:32.455
about. I don't want to hear or continue

03:14:32.479 --> 03:14:35.479
to hear from  people who have been 

03:14:37.359 --> 03:14:40.215
brutalized mentally or otherwise in

03:14:40.239 --> 03:14:43.239
terms of criminal behavior, etc. This

03:14:43.439 --> 03:14:46.439
isn't about me and it isn't about us. It

03:14:46.479 --> 03:14:49.479
is about our community and their safety.

03:14:49.600 --> 03:14:52.600
I commend this to the council and put it

03:14:54.319 --> 03:14:57.319
to the vote. And the mover has closed.

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So, we now have a motion before us.

03:15:01.040 --> 03:15:04.040
All those in favor?

03:15:06.239 --> 03:15:09.239
No one.

03:15:09.680 --> 03:15:10.295
Sorry, Libya.

03:15:10.319 --> 03:15:12.616
Sorry. Um, councelor Buckingham asked to

03:15:12.640 --> 03:15:15.640
inter.

03:15:16.000 --> 03:15:17.896
So, councelor Buckingham, would you like

03:15:17.920 --> 03:15:20.920
to as per section 35?

03:15:21.680 --> 03:15:22.215
Okay. Which

03:15:22.239 --> 03:15:24.375
parts would you like to

03:15:24.399 --> 03:15:27.399
could we move each 3.2? two.

03:15:28.640 --> 03:15:31.640
So each one

03:15:32.160 --> 03:15:34.056
do we need to do the extension?

03:15:34.080 --> 03:15:35.736
Mayor, I thought we put it to the vote.

03:15:35.760 --> 03:15:36.936
Is that not govern?

03:15:36.960 --> 03:15:38.455
Look, I'm comfortable. I've got

03:15:38.479 --> 03:15:40.215
discretion as a chair to consider this

03:15:40.239 --> 03:15:42.776
in parts. I'm comfortable  doing that

03:15:42.800 --> 03:15:44.056
in part

03:15:44.080 --> 03:15:46.936
as per rule 35.2. I have discretion as

03:15:46.960 --> 03:15:49.960
chair.  so councelor Buckingham, just

03:15:50.720 --> 03:15:52.856
to clarify, the parts you'd like to vote

03:15:52.880 --> 03:15:54.936
on separately or in the first instance

03:15:54.960 --> 03:15:57.176
are which parts? I'd like to vote

03:15:57.200 --> 03:15:59.656
separately on 3.2.7

03:15:59.680 --> 03:16:01.576
and 3.2.8.

03:16:01.600 --> 03:16:03.896
All right.

03:16:03.920 --> 03:16:06.136
In which case then, and we've had the

03:16:06.160 --> 03:16:09.160
debate, so we are

03:16:13.279 --> 03:16:15.016
sorry.

03:16:15.040 --> 03:16:18.040
Can we please part two be 3.2.7 and

03:16:19.279 --> 03:16:22.279
3.2.8. Thank you.

03:16:23.439 --> 03:16:26.439
We're now voting on part A and  the

03:16:26.560 --> 03:16:28.375
debate has been closed. So we're voting

03:16:28.399 --> 03:16:31.399
on part A of this. All those in favor?

03:16:33.840 --> 03:16:35.096
Option B.

03:16:35.120 --> 03:16:35.415
Yep.

03:16:35.439 --> 03:16:37.816
Part A of Yep. Option B. We've separated

03:16:37.840 --> 03:16:39.656
into two parts. We're voting on part A

03:16:39.680 --> 03:16:41.096
within option B.

03:16:41.120 --> 03:16:42.215
Part one. Sorry.

03:16:42.239 --> 03:16:43.496
Part one.

03:16:43.520 --> 03:16:46.056
Can I get some clarification, Mayor?

03:16:46.080 --> 03:16:48.136
Yes.

03:16:48.160 --> 03:16:51.160
Yes, you may. Councelor Joe. Um, if we

03:16:51.200 --> 03:16:53.096
don't vote on it in parts, can we vote

03:16:53.120 --> 03:16:56.120
on it in whole if it doesn't go ahead or

03:16:57.760 --> 03:16:59.415
I'm I'm a bit confused. What?

03:16:59.439 --> 03:17:01.415
All right. So, all we're basically doing

03:17:01.439 --> 03:17:04.136
here is

03:17:04.160 --> 03:17:07.160
we're voting this in separate parts and

03:17:07.520 --> 03:17:09.496
basically we'll go through the entire

03:17:09.520 --> 03:17:12.520
motion split into parts. So, that's

03:17:12.640 --> 03:17:15.640
okay.

03:17:20.720 --> 03:17:22.776
We're starting with part one.

03:17:22.800 --> 03:17:24.616
We've separated out. We're starting with

03:17:24.640 --> 03:17:27.496
part one.

03:17:27.520 --> 03:17:30.295
We're putting part one.

03:17:30.319 --> 03:17:32.295
All those in favor of what is now known

03:17:32.319 --> 03:17:35.319
as part one.

03:17:37.680 --> 03:17:39.576
All those in favor of part one because

03:17:39.600 --> 03:17:40.856
this is how we'll get through the entire

03:17:40.880 --> 03:17:43.880
motion.

03:17:47.359 --> 03:17:50.359
Part one. Part one is in favor of 

03:17:51.680 --> 03:17:54.536
councilors Tomman, Deputy Mayor M,

03:17:54.560 --> 03:17:57.415
councelor Hardy,  councelor Consolo,

03:17:57.439 --> 03:18:00.439
councelor Jay, and councelor Min

03:18:02.880 --> 03:18:05.335
against part one.

03:18:05.359 --> 03:18:07.415
Councelor Buckingham, Councelor

03:18:07.439 --> 03:18:09.335
Crawford, and councelor Holidayiday are

03:18:09.359 --> 03:18:12.359
against part one.

03:18:15.040 --> 03:18:18.040
All right, part one is now passed.

03:18:19.200 --> 03:18:22.200
That now takes us to part two.

03:18:22.720 --> 03:18:25.720
All those in favor of part two.

03:18:28.080 --> 03:18:31.080
That is unanimous. So, part two is

03:18:32.319 --> 03:18:35.319
unanimous.

03:18:35.760 --> 03:18:37.415
And there's going to be a part three

03:18:37.439 --> 03:18:38.856
because this is a gift that keeps on

03:18:38.880 --> 03:18:41.880
giving.

03:18:43.760 --> 03:18:46.760
Part three is

03:18:58.319 --> 03:18:59.976
we're we're thanking the community in

03:19:00.000 --> 03:19:03.000
part three. All those in favor of

03:19:03.040 --> 03:19:06.040
thanking the community in part three,

03:19:07.520 --> 03:19:10.520
that is carried. All right.

03:19:14.720 --> 03:19:16.696
All right. So now that motion is

03:19:16.720 --> 03:19:19.720
carried. Now we are I need or would we

03:19:20.080 --> 03:19:21.976
like to extend our council meeting for

03:19:22.000 --> 03:19:23.976
another 30 minutes?

03:19:24.000 --> 03:19:25.255
I'd like as a procedural

03:19:25.279 --> 03:19:27.016
move Yes. To extend the meeting for

03:19:27.040 --> 03:19:29.016
another 30 minutes. Can we also just do

03:19:29.040 --> 03:19:31.335
it already for an hour?

03:19:31.359 --> 03:19:33.896
 do take two 30-minut extensions one

03:19:33.920 --> 03:19:35.896
after the other. So we'll put the first

03:19:35.920 --> 03:19:38.616
30 minute extension is seconded. All

03:19:38.640 --> 03:19:41.640
those in favor, that is carried. And I

03:19:42.560 --> 03:19:44.455
will put a procedural motion for a

03:19:44.479 --> 03:19:47.016
second 30-minut extension. Is that

03:19:47.040 --> 03:19:48.696
seconded?

03:19:48.720 --> 03:19:50.536
Everyone's count seconded. Councelor

03:19:50.560 --> 03:19:53.560
Holidayiday. All those in favor? That is

03:19:53.680 --> 03:19:56.616
car. That now extends us to 11 p.m.

03:19:56.640 --> 03:19:58.616
because we love being in this building

03:19:58.640 --> 03:20:01.640
for so long.

03:20:03.680 --> 03:20:06.680
All right.

03:20:09.279 --> 03:20:12.279
All right, let's move us on to the next

03:20:12.560 --> 03:20:15.560
item on the agenda, which is item 10.3,

03:20:17.200 --> 03:20:19.496
changes to planning delegations. Thank

03:20:19.520 --> 03:20:21.415
you everyone for sitting through this

03:20:21.439 --> 03:20:23.415
marathon session. So, thank you very

03:20:23.439 --> 03:20:25.896
much.

03:20:25.920 --> 03:20:28.920
10.3 is changes to planning delegations

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from the 10th of December until the

03:20:30.640 --> 03:20:32.136
first sitting of the ordinary council

03:20:32.160 --> 03:20:35.160
meeting in 26. Any questions of officers

03:20:35.200 --> 03:20:38.200
to this item?

03:20:38.399 --> 03:20:39.976
Would someone like to move? Moved.

03:20:40.000 --> 03:20:42.136
Councelor Holidayiday. Second.

03:20:42.160 --> 03:20:43.816
I've got a question. I've got a

03:20:43.840 --> 03:20:44.616
question.

03:20:44.640 --> 03:20:45.976
All right. I'm going to allow it

03:20:46.000 --> 03:20:48.056
briefly.

03:20:48.080 --> 03:20:49.976
Councelor J.

03:20:50.000 --> 03:20:53.000
Um um  is it possible to get a list of

03:20:53.760 --> 03:20:56.760
any possible  planning issues that may

03:20:57.279 --> 03:21:00.279
go to delegation while we're on on on

03:21:00.479 --> 03:21:02.536
break? So we're aware there's some

03:21:02.560 --> 03:21:05.415
concerns in domain about the removal of

03:21:05.439 --> 03:21:07.976
the DD026.

03:21:08.000 --> 03:21:10.215
So I'd like to be across anything that

03:21:10.239 --> 03:21:12.696
may um come through when we are off

03:21:12.720 --> 03:21:15.720
shift.

03:21:17.120 --> 03:21:19.656
Over to our CEO Chris Carol through you

03:21:19.680 --> 03:21:22.680
may. Yes.

03:21:24.399 --> 03:21:24.776
Thank you.

03:21:24.800 --> 03:21:27.415
That was a very succinct answer.

03:21:27.439 --> 03:21:30.215
 any further questions before I move

03:21:30.239 --> 03:21:33.239
us along? All right, we have a mover

03:21:34.160 --> 03:21:36.616
question. Qu question councelor

03:21:36.640 --> 03:21:38.455
question councelor Holidayiday. Um last

03:21:38.479 --> 03:21:39.976
year we had a similar motion which

03:21:40.000 --> 03:21:42.295
included an extra element around um

03:21:42.319 --> 03:21:45.255
planning decisions or by the minister.

03:21:45.279 --> 03:21:47.335
 that's not in there this year. Is

03:21:47.359 --> 03:21:49.896
there any anything any distinction there

03:21:49.920 --> 03:21:51.016
or is it just that we don't have

03:21:51.040 --> 03:21:52.616
anything in front of the minister at the

03:21:52.640 --> 03:21:55.640
moment?

03:21:56.160 --> 03:21:56.536
Three

03:21:56.560 --> 03:21:59.496
over to Paul Wood  general manager of

03:21:59.520 --> 03:22:01.016
City infrastructure. Acting general

03:22:01.040 --> 03:22:02.136
manager of City.

03:22:02.160 --> 03:22:04.215
Thank you for the question.  and

03:22:04.239 --> 03:22:06.136
through you may there are no matters

03:22:06.160 --> 03:22:07.896
that we have from the minister at this

03:22:07.920 --> 03:22:10.056
stage or that we anticipate before the

03:22:10.080 --> 03:22:11.816
next sitting.

03:22:11.840 --> 03:22:14.840
All right. Do I have a mover? I have a

03:22:15.120 --> 03:22:16.455
mover and councelor Holidayiday. Do I

03:22:16.479 --> 03:22:17.976
have a second? Seconded. Councelor

03:22:18.000 --> 03:22:20.455
Gonzalo. Any Does the mover wish to

03:22:20.479 --> 03:22:22.215
speak? Does the second wish to speak?

03:22:22.239 --> 03:22:23.496
Anyone else wish to speak to this

03:22:23.520 --> 03:22:26.520
motion? Going once, going twice.

03:22:26.640 --> 03:22:29.096
Are you all those in favor? Show of

03:22:29.120 --> 03:22:32.120
hands. Does the mover wish to close? No.

03:22:32.239 --> 03:22:33.736
The move does. We're voting on the

03:22:33.760 --> 03:22:35.576
motion. It has been poured. It is

03:22:35.600 --> 03:22:38.600
carried.

03:22:41.760 --> 03:22:44.536
All right. 11.1 the South Melbourne

03:22:44.560 --> 03:22:47.415
special rate and charge the from 26 to

03:22:47.439 --> 03:22:50.375
31.

03:22:50.399 --> 03:22:53.016
 B councelor Jay just confirming that

03:22:53.040 --> 03:22:55.656
you voted for the planning delegations

03:22:55.680 --> 03:22:58.056
or was there opposition to that? I may

03:22:58.080 --> 03:22:59.335
have missed it.

03:22:59.359 --> 03:23:01.896
Yeah, there was opposition on

03:23:01.920 --> 03:23:03.335
my apologies. All right, let's take that

03:23:03.359 --> 03:23:04.536
vote again so we can get it for the

03:23:04.560 --> 03:23:07.560
record. All those in favor of 10.3

03:23:09.520 --> 03:23:12.520
that is councelor Timman deputy may

03:23:13.920 --> 03:23:15.976
councelor Hardy councelor Buckingham

03:23:16.000 --> 03:23:18.536
councelor consol councelor Crawford

03:23:18.560 --> 03:23:20.696
councelor consolo councelor halliday

03:23:20.720 --> 03:23:23.720
councelor mak for and those against

03:23:27.200 --> 03:23:29.816
councelor Jay against that motion is

03:23:29.840 --> 03:23:32.840
carried

03:23:33.120 --> 03:23:36.120
all right Now we can move on to 11.1 the

03:23:37.040 --> 03:23:38.776
South Melbourne special rate in charge

03:23:38.800 --> 03:23:41.496
from 26 to 31.

03:23:41.520 --> 03:23:44.520
 any questions for officers?

03:23:46.160 --> 03:23:47.736
I'm going to assume that silence means

03:23:47.760 --> 03:23:50.760
no questions. Do we have a mover for the

03:23:51.359 --> 03:23:53.736
South Melbourne special rate scheme?

03:23:53.760 --> 03:23:56.295
Moved. Councelor Jay. Seconded.

03:23:56.319 --> 03:23:58.536
Councelor Tamman. Does the mover wish to

03:23:58.560 --> 03:24:00.455
speak?

03:24:00.479 --> 03:24:02.856
Um very briefly, happy for this to go

03:24:02.880 --> 03:24:05.016
out to community consultation. There's

03:24:05.040 --> 03:24:08.040
been 58% uptake of a special rates levy.

03:24:09.040 --> 03:24:12.040
Um the traders group in  in Clarin

03:24:14.080 --> 03:24:16.856
Street has been very active um over the

03:24:16.880 --> 03:24:19.880
years returning historic veranders and

03:24:20.080 --> 03:24:23.080
portioned coffee. Um they don't feel

03:24:23.920 --> 03:24:26.375
that they can continue on on the sniff

03:24:26.399 --> 03:24:28.856
of an oil rag. So this is good timing

03:24:28.880 --> 03:24:30.936
for them. So happy to support this to go

03:24:30.960 --> 03:24:33.176
out to community consultation with the

03:24:33.200 --> 03:24:34.696
rest of the community and see how this

03:24:34.720 --> 03:24:36.936
sits for um South Melbourne. We're one

03:24:36.960 --> 03:24:38.536
of the only villages not to have a

03:24:38.560 --> 03:24:40.455
special rate. So this would be bringing

03:24:40.479 --> 03:24:42.616
it into line if there is major support.

03:24:42.640 --> 03:24:45.016
So I look forward to seeing um what the

03:24:45.040 --> 03:24:46.856
community says.

03:24:46.880 --> 03:24:49.656
Thank you councelor Jay. So  seconder

03:24:49.680 --> 03:24:51.736
do you wish to speak? Councelor Thomann

03:24:51.760 --> 03:24:53.415
very quickly the traders are asking for

03:24:53.439 --> 03:24:56.439
it. We should support them. Um I think

03:24:56.880 --> 03:24:58.455
it's  you know it works in Akan Street

03:24:58.479 --> 03:25:01.016
and Fitzro Street and Port Melbourne 

03:25:01.040 --> 03:25:02.776
and Kala Street. I think it's a great

03:25:02.800 --> 03:25:05.800
thing to do and um I always um want to

03:25:06.319 --> 03:25:09.319
thank the traders who are prepared to to

03:25:09.439 --> 03:25:12.439
do more than just run their shops and 

03:25:12.479 --> 03:25:14.616
are prepared to de dedicate a lot of

03:25:14.640 --> 03:25:17.496
their time to promote their streets and

03:25:17.520 --> 03:25:20.215
I thank them all across our City for the

03:25:20.239 --> 03:25:22.856
work they do on top of the work they do

03:25:22.880 --> 03:25:25.255
in their shops. Thank you, councelor

03:25:25.279 --> 03:25:27.335
Timman. Any other councilors wish to

03:25:27.359 --> 03:25:30.136
speak to this motion? In which case, I

03:25:30.160 --> 03:25:33.160
will put the motion. All those in favor?

03:25:34.080 --> 03:25:36.696
All those in favor? That motion is

03:25:36.720 --> 03:25:39.720
carried unanimously.

03:25:40.080 --> 03:25:43.016
Now to item 11.2, the Port Melbourne

03:25:43.040 --> 03:25:46.040
special rate and charge from 26 to 31.

03:25:46.880 --> 03:25:49.176
Intention to declare. Do we have any

03:25:49.200 --> 03:25:51.816
questions for officers?

03:25:51.840 --> 03:25:54.616
Do we have a mover for the motion?

03:25:54.640 --> 03:25:57.640
Moved. Councelor Consolo. Seconded.

03:25:58.560 --> 03:26:01.560
Councelor Hardy. Does the mover wish to

03:26:01.600 --> 03:26:04.600
speak? I'll add that  the Bay Street

03:26:05.359 --> 03:26:08.056
Trade Association  Port Brits

03:26:08.080 --> 03:26:09.976
Association has a new coordinator. It's

03:26:10.000 --> 03:26:11.176
great to see the work that they're

03:26:11.200 --> 03:26:13.496
bringing through and we're seeing um how

03:26:13.520 --> 03:26:15.255
that's helping a street that is

03:26:15.279 --> 03:26:17.736
definitely in in need of some TLC right

03:26:17.760 --> 03:26:20.760
now. So, , this is it seems a good

03:26:21.520 --> 03:26:23.656
idea, but of course it goes out to the

03:26:23.680 --> 03:26:25.976
traders to have their say and we'll have

03:26:26.000 --> 03:26:27.896
two further council meetings to, ,

03:26:27.920 --> 03:26:29.736
work through the process. But thank you

03:26:29.760 --> 03:26:31.576
to the traders who came to speak today

03:26:31.600 --> 03:26:33.016
and all the work that goes behind the

03:26:33.040 --> 03:26:35.176
scene and to the council officer team as

03:26:35.200 --> 03:26:36.856
well. Thank you.

03:26:36.880 --> 03:26:39.880
Does the second wish to speak?

03:26:41.040 --> 03:26:43.896
Does anyone any other counselor wish to

03:26:43.920 --> 03:26:46.920
speak to the motion before us? Does the

03:26:46.960 --> 03:26:49.960
mover wish to close?

03:26:50.160 --> 03:26:52.536
We are therefore putting the motion. All

03:26:52.560 --> 03:26:55.176
those in favor?

03:26:55.200 --> 03:26:58.200
That motion is carried.

03:26:59.200 --> 03:27:02.200
Takes us now to item 11.3, the Port

03:27:02.399 --> 03:27:03.896
Melbourne Netball infrastructure

03:27:03.920 --> 03:27:06.920
projects project. Any questions for

03:27:07.520 --> 03:27:10.520
officers from councilors?

03:27:12.000 --> 03:27:14.776
No questions from to officers. Councelor

03:27:14.800 --> 03:27:16.856
Holidayiday.

03:27:16.880 --> 03:27:19.880
, thank you, Mayor. Um,

03:27:21.120 --> 03:27:24.120
we we saw um through the Fisherman's

03:27:25.200 --> 03:27:28.200
Bend It there's a plan for

03:27:29.840 --> 03:27:32.840
a Metro train to go underneath JL Murphy

03:27:33.120 --> 03:27:36.120
Reserve. Um

03:27:36.319 --> 03:27:39.319
will this will this um feasibility

03:27:40.800 --> 03:27:43.800
 consider those that impact as well of

03:27:49.439 --> 03:27:51.496
through you may yes we will to the

03:27:51.520 --> 03:27:54.295
extent that we that we can um consider

03:27:54.319 --> 03:27:55.896
what the implication of that is not only

03:27:55.920 --> 03:27:58.295
for that this particular project but for

03:27:58.319 --> 03:28:01.319
JL Murphy more broadly noting that that

03:28:02.000 --> 03:28:04.856
train is probably a long way

03:28:04.880 --> 03:28:07.880
The train's probably a long way off. Any

03:28:07.920 --> 03:28:10.696
further questions?

03:28:10.720 --> 03:28:13.656
No further questions. , do we have a

03:28:13.680 --> 03:28:16.136
mover for this motion? Move. Councelor

03:28:16.160 --> 03:28:19.160
Consolo. Seconded.

03:28:19.600 --> 03:28:22.600
, seconded. Councelor Jay. , any

03:28:23.439 --> 03:28:24.616
does the mover wish to speak?

03:28:24.640 --> 03:28:27.640
Yes, please. , I was really hoping at

03:28:28.399 --> 03:28:30.936
this point in time this project would be

03:28:30.960 --> 03:28:33.736
done, opened, being used. Um, it's

03:28:33.760 --> 03:28:36.136
really disappointing to be looking at a

03:28:36.160 --> 03:28:38.056
new site and all the process that

03:28:38.080 --> 03:28:40.536
follows that. But I'd much prefer that

03:28:40.560 --> 03:28:43.176
that process starts now versus

03:28:43.200 --> 03:28:44.616
cancelling the project because I think

03:28:44.640 --> 03:28:46.536
this club is very deserving of it.

03:28:46.560 --> 03:28:48.295
They've gone and got the money. The

03:28:48.319 --> 03:28:49.896
money is worth a lot less now than it

03:28:49.920 --> 03:28:51.816
was back when they got it. But I think

03:28:51.840 --> 03:28:53.816
that we owe it to them and I really hope

03:28:53.840 --> 03:28:55.656
that people support this tonight.

03:28:55.680 --> 03:28:57.816
Thank you. Councelor Consol does a

03:28:57.840 --> 03:29:00.840
second to wish to speak. Councelor Jay.

03:29:01.120 --> 03:29:04.120
Um very briefly, there's such a need of

03:29:04.239 --> 03:29:06.455
 you know sporting spaces especially

03:29:06.479 --> 03:29:09.479
for you know women's sports. Um I think

03:29:10.239 --> 03:29:13.239
we could have more if we had more space.

03:29:13.840 --> 03:29:16.840
So we just um happy to support this.

03:29:17.760 --> 03:29:19.656
Thank you councelor Jay. The secondary

03:29:19.680 --> 03:29:21.576
has spoken. Is there any other council

03:29:21.600 --> 03:29:24.536
that wishes to speak to the motion?

03:29:24.560 --> 03:29:27.560
 councelor Holidayiday.

03:29:28.399 --> 03:29:31.399
Um I am vexed by this one unfortunately.

03:29:33.359 --> 03:29:36.359
Um I understand the issues with Elder

03:29:36.479 --> 03:29:39.096
Smith and the demand in the community.

03:29:39.120 --> 03:29:42.120
Um but at the same time  you know as

03:29:42.319 --> 03:29:44.536
we heard from community member earlier

03:29:44.560 --> 03:29:47.560
giving up um a small piece of um passive

03:29:48.479 --> 03:29:51.479
recreational space  in this in this

03:29:52.160 --> 03:29:55.160
area that is rapidly densifying um is 

03:29:56.800 --> 03:29:59.800
to me um shortsighted and I hope that

03:30:01.680 --> 03:30:03.335
through the through this I'm not going

03:30:03.359 --> 03:30:05.576
to stand in the way of this here but I

03:30:05.600 --> 03:30:08.056
hope that through this process we

03:30:08.080 --> 03:30:11.080
identify by um commenurate space that we

03:30:12.080 --> 03:30:13.576
activate

03:30:13.600 --> 03:30:15.816
as this project gets going rather than

03:30:15.840 --> 03:30:18.455
at some you know point off in the ne

03:30:18.479 --> 03:30:21.479
never never of the future. Um so I I

03:30:22.479 --> 03:30:24.696
understand the need here and I

03:30:24.720 --> 03:30:27.255
understand the decision um but I hope

03:30:27.279 --> 03:30:29.496
that we don't make the wrong decision in

03:30:29.520 --> 03:30:32.520
taking away vital um open space in an

03:30:32.960 --> 03:30:35.816
area that we're going to put 50,000 more

03:30:35.840 --> 03:30:38.056
people in. Thank you. Any other

03:30:38.080 --> 03:30:40.856
counselors wish to speak?

03:30:40.880 --> 03:30:43.880
I may add a few words. It makes sense to

03:30:43.920 --> 03:30:46.215
colllocate net ball with other sporting

03:30:46.239 --> 03:30:48.616
facilities. However, what this

03:30:48.640 --> 03:30:51.576
highlights is a deficit of public space

03:30:51.600 --> 03:30:53.255
in Fisherman's Ben that has been

03:30:53.279 --> 03:30:54.936
identified and that is something that

03:30:54.960 --> 03:30:56.856
does need to be addressed. it should not

03:30:56.880 --> 03:30:59.880
be  to the consequence of the net club

03:30:59.920 --> 03:31:02.136
but it what this highlights is that

03:31:02.160 --> 03:31:04.776
shortfall of passive recreational space

03:31:04.800 --> 03:31:06.856
more broadly in the precinct and we need

03:31:06.880 --> 03:31:09.496
to look at that very very seriously so

03:31:09.520 --> 03:31:11.255
we don't repeat the mistakes that have

03:31:11.279 --> 03:31:13.415
happened elsewhere in the municip

03:31:13.439 --> 03:31:15.816
municipality or more broadly across

03:31:15.840 --> 03:31:18.840
metropolitan Melbourne I will  I've

03:31:19.120 --> 03:31:22.120
spoken does the mover wish to close

03:31:22.960 --> 03:31:25.335
in which case we will put the motion all

03:31:25.359 --> 03:31:28.359
those In favor that is carried

03:31:28.479 --> 03:31:30.776
unanimously.

03:31:30.800 --> 03:31:33.800
Item 11.4 the Silda Espanard market

03:31:34.640 --> 03:31:37.640
annual report 24 to 25. Does anyone Does

03:31:38.560 --> 03:31:40.215
a counselor wish to ask questions to

03:31:40.239 --> 03:31:41.976
this item?

03:31:42.000 --> 03:31:44.616
Does a councelor wish to move this

03:31:44.640 --> 03:31:47.640
recommendation or something different?

03:31:47.760 --> 03:31:49.335
Moved. Um

03:31:49.359 --> 03:31:50.215
what?

03:31:50.239 --> 03:31:52.215
I just have a question. Um

03:31:52.239 --> 03:31:54.056
question Deputy Mayor Mears.

03:31:54.080 --> 03:31:55.415
Okay.

03:31:55.439 --> 03:31:58.375
 out of respect and care for our

03:31:58.399 --> 03:32:01.399
counselor friend um she's been sick all

03:32:01.920 --> 03:32:04.920
night and I just wonder do we need her

03:32:05.120 --> 03:32:07.255
critically from this point forward can

03:32:07.279 --> 03:32:10.215
we release her to go and commence some

03:32:10.239 --> 03:32:11.896
rec recuperation

03:32:11.920 --> 03:32:14.136
 councelor Jay you are a  given

03:32:14.160 --> 03:32:15.896
obviously that you are unwell and thank

03:32:15.920 --> 03:32:17.736
you for trooping through this meeting

03:32:17.760 --> 03:32:19.896
you can certainly plan an exit  when

03:32:19.920 --> 03:32:21.896
you wish

03:32:21.920 --> 03:32:23.736
um thank you very much counselors I'm

03:32:23.760 --> 03:32:25.415
sorry I couldn't be there and it's been

03:32:25.439 --> 03:32:27.816
a bit challenging but um thank you. I

03:32:27.840 --> 03:32:30.536
will wait for this vote um cuz I am on

03:32:30.560 --> 03:32:32.136
the committee and then I will exit if

03:32:32.160 --> 03:32:32.856
that's okay.

03:32:32.880 --> 03:32:35.016
That that is more than reasonable. All

03:32:35.040 --> 03:32:38.040
right. Any questions to the item?

03:32:38.239 --> 03:32:41.239
No. In which case can we have a mover?

03:32:41.920 --> 03:32:44.375
 moved. Councelor J seconded deputy

03:32:44.399 --> 03:32:47.399
mayor Mears does a mover wish to speak.

03:32:50.080 --> 03:32:51.976
Does the second wish to speak?

03:32:52.000 --> 03:32:54.536
No, I can't add to that. Thank you. That

03:32:54.560 --> 03:32:56.696
was very eloquently put. Councelor Jay's

03:32:56.720 --> 03:32:58.696
mover. Does any other counselor wish to

03:32:58.720 --> 03:33:00.696
speak to the motion?

03:33:00.720 --> 03:33:03.176
In which case, the motion will be put.

03:33:03.200 --> 03:33:05.656
All those in favor?

03:33:05.680 --> 03:33:08.680
That motion is carried unanimously.

03:33:09.680 --> 03:33:12.680
That takes us now to

03:33:12.800 --> 03:33:15.800
the next item which is

03:33:17.680 --> 03:33:20.680
 12.1 that is the appointments of

03:33:20.880 --> 03:33:23.576
council delegates to committees.

03:33:23.600 --> 03:33:26.600
 any questions to officers?

03:33:27.439 --> 03:33:28.696
Yes.

03:33:28.720 --> 03:33:31.415
The Can we check online the lists of

03:33:31.439 --> 03:33:34.439
delegation?

03:33:43.040 --> 03:33:45.736
move to the you want to check the table

03:33:45.760 --> 03:33:46.936
or what do you want to check councelor

03:33:46.960 --> 03:33:49.576
Timman? Yeah, because I was added to the

03:33:49.600 --> 03:33:50.856
secular espanard.

03:33:50.880 --> 03:33:53.496
So I can clarify that you have been you

03:33:53.520 --> 03:33:55.656
are no longer the or the secular

03:33:55.680 --> 03:33:57.176
espanard. There will not be a council

03:33:57.200 --> 03:33:58.776
delegate as per the recommendation

03:33:58.800 --> 03:34:00.295
before council needed. I'm happy to

03:34:00.319 --> 03:34:02.696
delegate  to volunteer but if it's not

03:34:02.720 --> 03:34:03.255
needed I'm

03:34:03.279 --> 03:34:05.096
clarify that there is not a councelor

03:34:05.120 --> 03:34:07.736
being appointed to it.  is there any

03:34:07.760 --> 03:34:08.856
other questions?

03:34:08.880 --> 03:34:09.576
No.

03:34:09.600 --> 03:34:12.600
All right. Is there a mover?

03:34:13.040 --> 03:34:15.255
Is there  moved councelor Tamman

03:34:15.279 --> 03:34:18.279
seconded councelor Hardy does the mover

03:34:18.560 --> 03:34:21.496
wish to speak

03:34:21.520 --> 03:34:23.096
um but I think it's obviously

03:34:23.120 --> 03:34:26.120
interesting we we are here as a council

03:34:26.160 --> 03:34:28.936
but we obviously are involved in lots of

03:34:28.960 --> 03:34:31.496
other committees

03:34:31.520 --> 03:34:33.736
um and I you know encourage the

03:34:33.760 --> 03:34:35.816
community to actually look at the

03:34:35.840 --> 03:34:38.840
committees that we take part of and um

03:34:39.439 --> 03:34:42.136
can raise questions with the councilors

03:34:42.160 --> 03:34:43.896
on the committees are good questions

03:34:43.920 --> 03:34:46.056
about the IT team that these committees

03:34:46.080 --> 03:34:48.776
are discussing. You know, I found it

03:34:48.800 --> 03:34:51.800
very interesting um to learn about a

03:34:52.960 --> 03:34:54.856
better understanding of a community and

03:34:54.880 --> 03:34:57.880
and spread the word of what we do

03:34:58.800 --> 03:35:00.856
through our community

03:35:00.880 --> 03:35:03.880
um to this community. So, I think it's a

03:35:04.239 --> 03:35:06.136
it's you know, we discussed it a couple

03:35:06.160 --> 03:35:07.896
of weeks ago. I think it's a great thing

03:35:07.920 --> 03:35:10.920
to do um and to support

03:35:12.399 --> 03:35:14.856
Great. Thank you. , does the second

03:35:14.880 --> 03:35:16.616
wish to speak? Councelor Hardy.

03:35:16.640 --> 03:35:19.096
No, thank you.

03:35:19.120 --> 03:35:21.335
Such succinct wording. Does any other

03:35:21.359 --> 03:35:24.359
counselor wish to speak to the motion?

03:35:24.720 --> 03:35:26.776
In which case, we shall be putting this

03:35:26.800 --> 03:35:29.800
motion. And all those in favor, that

03:35:30.000 --> 03:35:33.000
motion is now carried unanimously.

03:35:34.560 --> 03:35:37.560
That takes us now to item 12.2, to the

03:35:38.080 --> 03:35:39.816
quarterly reporting of records of the

03:35:39.840 --> 03:35:41.976
informal meetings of council. Any

03:35:42.000 --> 03:35:45.000
questions for officers?

03:35:46.239 --> 03:35:49.239
Does someone No questions. Is there

03:35:49.359 --> 03:35:50.536
someone that would like to move this

03:35:50.560 --> 03:35:52.856
motion? Moved to Deputy May seconded.

03:35:52.880 --> 03:35:54.936
Councelor Holidayiday. Does the mover

03:35:54.960 --> 03:35:56.056
wish to speak?

03:35:56.080 --> 03:35:57.016
No, thank you.

03:35:57.040 --> 03:36:00.040
Does the second wish to speak?

03:36:00.319 --> 03:36:03.319
You being that's councelor Holidayiday.

03:36:03.439 --> 03:36:06.439
Does any other councelor wish to speak?

03:36:06.960 --> 03:36:09.415
In which case we shall be putting that

03:36:09.439 --> 03:36:11.496
item 12.2.

03:36:11.520 --> 03:36:13.496
Let's put the motion. All those in

03:36:13.520 --> 03:36:16.520
favor? That motion is carried.

03:36:18.239 --> 03:36:21.016
Item 13.1, the council plan and budget

03:36:21.040 --> 03:36:23.335
for 2627, the long-term financial

03:36:23.359 --> 03:36:25.496
outlook and direction setting. Any

03:36:25.520 --> 03:36:28.520
questions for officers?

03:36:29.920 --> 03:36:32.920
No questions for officers. Do we have a

03:36:33.600 --> 03:36:36.600
mover?

03:36:36.720 --> 03:36:38.776
That is moved. Councelor Holidayiday,

03:36:38.800 --> 03:36:41.496
seconded councelor Crawford. Does the

03:36:41.520 --> 03:36:44.520
mover wish to speak?

03:36:45.359 --> 03:36:48.359
You know, you

03:36:50.560 --> 03:36:53.560
 does the second wish to speak?

03:36:54.239 --> 03:36:56.295
Does any other counselor wish to speak

03:36:56.319 --> 03:36:58.536
to the motion?

03:36:58.560 --> 03:37:01.560
Would the mover like to close then?

03:37:03.279 --> 03:37:04.856
All right, we're going to put that

03:37:04.880 --> 03:37:07.736
motion. All those in favor, that is

03:37:07.760 --> 03:37:10.760
carried unanimously with  the

03:37:11.359 --> 03:37:14.359
councilors that are remaining.

03:37:14.640 --> 03:37:17.335
All right, that takes us now to item

03:37:17.359 --> 03:37:19.576
13.2,

03:37:19.600 --> 03:37:21.255
the submission to the draft ministerial

03:37:21.279 --> 03:37:23.016
guidelines for councils relating to the

03:37:23.040 --> 03:37:25.896
payment of rates and charges.

03:37:25.920 --> 03:37:28.375
Does any counselor wish to speak to this

03:37:28.399 --> 03:37:31.399
motion?

03:37:32.960 --> 03:37:34.856
I'm going to accept that as no

03:37:34.880 --> 03:37:37.656
counselors wish to speak to 13.2 in

03:37:37.680 --> 03:37:40.536
which case do we have a mover that is

03:37:40.560 --> 03:37:42.776
moved councelor Crawford going and

03:37:42.800 --> 03:37:45.176
seconded councelor Tomman. Does the

03:37:45.200 --> 03:37:47.976
mover wish to speak?

03:37:48.000 --> 03:37:51.000
Does the seconder wish to speak?

03:37:51.040 --> 03:37:53.335
Does any other counselor wish to speak

03:37:53.359 --> 03:37:56.359
to this motion?

03:37:56.800 --> 03:37:58.375
I'm going to take that no as an

03:37:58.399 --> 03:38:00.056
acceptance of no wants to speak. So

03:38:00.080 --> 03:38:02.455
therefore we shall be putting this

03:38:02.479 --> 03:38:04.295
motion

03:38:04.319 --> 03:38:07.319
and all those in favor that is carried

03:38:07.760 --> 03:38:10.455
unanimously

03:38:10.479 --> 03:38:13.479
that  sorry my and that concludes

03:38:13.520 --> 03:38:15.816
officer reports. So now that brings us

03:38:15.840 --> 03:38:17.896
to our notices of motion. We have one

03:38:17.920 --> 03:38:20.455
notice of motion tonight and that is it

03:38:20.479 --> 03:38:23.479
team item 14.1 a motion raised by

03:38:24.800 --> 03:38:26.536
councelor Holidayiday in relation to the

03:38:26.560 --> 03:38:29.016
78 tram extension. Councelor Holidayiday

03:38:29.040 --> 03:38:31.976
would you like to move this motion?

03:38:32.000 --> 03:38:33.415
Yes you would. Thank you councelor

03:38:33.439 --> 03:38:35.335
Holidayiday. Do we have a seconder that

03:38:35.359 --> 03:38:37.816
is seconded Deputy Mayor M. Councelor

03:38:37.840 --> 03:38:39.496
Holidayiday would you wish to speak to

03:38:39.520 --> 03:38:40.455
this motion?

03:38:40.479 --> 03:38:42.856
 thank you mayor I would. Um and thank

03:38:42.880 --> 03:38:44.696
you councilors for considering this

03:38:44.720 --> 03:38:46.696
motion tonight. I won't belabor the

03:38:46.720 --> 03:38:49.096
point. Um, but our our colleagues over

03:38:49.120 --> 03:38:52.120
at the City of Yara are proposing a 

03:38:52.880 --> 03:38:55.415
an adjustment and extension of the tram

03:38:55.439 --> 03:38:58.439
route 78 where normally it would  it

03:38:58.640 --> 03:39:01.016
would  terminate at the end of Church

03:39:01.040 --> 03:39:02.536
Street, I think it is. They're proposing

03:39:02.560 --> 03:39:05.560
that it a turn there that would allow

03:39:05.760 --> 03:39:08.616
the tram route 78 which runs through um

03:39:08.640 --> 03:39:10.856
Bellaclava and St Kilder East all the

03:39:10.880 --> 03:39:13.736
way up to Richmond would allow that tram

03:39:13.760 --> 03:39:16.760
to then continue through  to um

03:39:17.439 --> 03:39:20.375
effectively North Melbourne and Fitzroy

03:39:20.399 --> 03:39:23.176
um along Victoria Avenue. I think this

03:39:23.200 --> 03:39:26.200
 is a is a good proposal because it

03:39:27.600 --> 03:39:29.736
would allow our residents to have better

03:39:29.760 --> 03:39:32.215
access to that hospital precinct at the

03:39:32.239 --> 03:39:33.816
north end of the City without having to

03:39:33.840 --> 03:39:36.295
go through the City and um and change

03:39:36.319 --> 03:39:37.976
trams. They would have a direct route

03:39:38.000 --> 03:39:40.696
through to that area. So, um I'm happy

03:39:40.720 --> 03:39:43.096
to support this and offer our support to

03:39:43.120 --> 03:39:44.856
the City of Yara through a letter from

03:39:44.880 --> 03:39:47.656
our mayor to them um indicating our

03:39:47.680 --> 03:39:50.455
support for this  for for this

03:39:50.479 --> 03:39:53.479
proposal of theirs. Um so I  hope you

03:39:54.080 --> 03:39:55.976
will all support this.

03:39:56.000 --> 03:39:57.656
Thank you. Councelor Holidayiday moving

03:39:57.680 --> 03:39:59.816
it. Deputy Mayers, would you wish to sec

03:39:59.840 --> 03:40:01.896
 speak to the motion as second?

03:40:01.920 --> 03:40:04.920
Just briefly.  it pleases me to 

03:40:05.040 --> 03:40:06.936
second the motion put by councelor

03:40:06.960 --> 03:40:09.960
Holidayiday and I cannot improve on his

03:40:10.000 --> 03:40:12.776
eloquence tonight. So no further

03:40:12.800 --> 03:40:15.656
comment.

03:40:15.680 --> 03:40:18.680
 any other councilors wish to speak?

03:40:19.760 --> 03:40:22.760
I may comment briefly. This um is a

03:40:22.800 --> 03:40:24.295
great example of collaboration across

03:40:24.319 --> 03:40:25.896
the sector. has been raised through the

03:40:25.920 --> 03:40:28.696
metro and transport forum where I am

03:40:28.720 --> 03:40:30.295
continuing as a council of delegate as

03:40:30.319 --> 03:40:33.319
per the last couple of items and also 

03:40:34.080 --> 03:40:35.976
you know this will also serve that

03:40:36.000 --> 03:40:38.536
ability to decentralize  public

03:40:38.560 --> 03:40:40.856
transport network and better connect

03:40:40.880 --> 03:40:43.880
people with jobs and other recreation

03:40:43.920 --> 03:40:46.616
education and other opportunities. I

03:40:46.640 --> 03:40:49.176
commend the motion and therefore we 

03:40:49.200 --> 03:40:51.976
does the mover wish to close

03:40:52.000 --> 03:40:54.056
in which case we shall now be putting

03:40:54.080 --> 03:40:56.375
the motion

03:40:56.399 --> 03:40:59.399
and that is carried unanimously.

03:40:59.840 --> 03:41:02.375
So that concludes

03:41:02.399 --> 03:41:04.936
item 14.1 our notice there's a motion

03:41:04.960 --> 03:41:07.960
and that also concludes  sorry item 15

03:41:08.640 --> 03:41:11.640
reports by councelor delegates.

03:41:12.319 --> 03:41:14.375
Anyone wish to share a report this

03:41:14.399 --> 03:41:17.176
evening? I'm going to assume the answer

03:41:17.200 --> 03:41:20.200
is no to that.  any urgent urgent

03:41:20.800 --> 03:41:22.375
items of business that we wish to raise

03:41:22.399 --> 03:41:25.399
at 10:25 p.m. on a Wednesday evening

03:41:26.399 --> 03:41:28.616
council. There's any urgent item items

03:41:28.640 --> 03:41:30.696
of business.

03:41:30.720 --> 03:41:33.335
The answer to that question is no.

03:41:33.359 --> 03:41:35.976
Therefore, we shall now move on to

03:41:36.000 --> 03:41:38.215
confidential matters. And we do have one

03:41:38.239 --> 03:41:41.239
this evening. So, my apologies to our

03:41:41.680 --> 03:41:43.496
surviving people out there in the

03:41:43.520 --> 03:41:45.176
gallery and anyone that's still online.

03:41:45.200 --> 03:41:47.656
We will be closing this meeting. Thank

03:41:47.680 --> 03:41:49.335
you very much for the journey you've

03:41:49.359 --> 03:41:52.215
taken with us across the last past year.

03:41:52.239 --> 03:41:53.976
 to those of you that are still tuning

03:41:54.000 --> 03:41:56.696
in at home or other locations.  thank

03:41:56.720 --> 03:41:59.415
you for persevering with us till 10:26

03:41:59.439 --> 03:42:02.439
p.m. as well. This is our final council

03:42:03.120 --> 03:42:05.896
meeting for 26.  thank you everyone

03:42:05.920 --> 03:42:07.656
for your feedback throughout the year as

03:42:07.680 --> 03:42:10.215
well as also your ongoing engagement.

03:42:10.239 --> 03:42:12.616
Every week I get another another 100

03:42:12.640 --> 03:42:14.776
emails in my inbox. It just shows how

03:42:14.800 --> 03:42:16.696
engaged our community is and every week

03:42:16.720 --> 03:42:18.856
I try to clear that down to zero. So I

03:42:18.880 --> 03:42:20.295
look forward to the dialogue continuing

03:42:20.319 --> 03:42:22.455
in the new year when we come back in

03:42:22.479 --> 03:42:25.479
February. Thank you very much.

03:42:27.760 --> 03:42:29.976
Back please.

03:42:30.000 --> 03:42:33.000
I will you can borrow my copy. 

03:42:35.439 --> 03:42:38.439
And whilst we're preparing for the 

03:42:39.840 --> 03:42:42.295
moving to close, I will now call on the

03:42:42.319 --> 03:42:43.656
councelor to move that the item be

03:42:43.680 --> 03:42:45.176
closed to members of the public to

03:42:45.200 --> 03:42:47.736
consider the confidential items.

03:42:47.760 --> 03:42:49.896
Lovely. Thank you, councelor Tamman and

03:42:49.920 --> 03:42:52.920
seconded councelor Console.

03:43:13.359 --> 03:43:15.496
We look forward to seeing you in the new

03:43:15.520 --> 03:43:17.656
year and that is fabulous news. So I'm

03:43:17.680 --> 03:43:19.816
really glad to leave  the public

03:43:19.840 --> 03:43:21.415
session on such a highlight. So thank

03:43:21.439 --> 03:43:24.439
you very much.

03:43:25.439 --> 03:43:27.896
So we're yeah

03:43:27.920 --> 03:43:30.776
so  we're got a move and we got a

03:43:30.800 --> 03:43:33.800
seconder. We can now put that to a vote.

03:43:36.880 --> 03:43:39.255
And now that is carried. We are now in

03:43:39.279 --> 03:43:42.279
the closed in camera session.