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Welcome to tonight's meeting of the Port

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Phillip City Council council as

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always respectfully acknowledges the

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traditional owners and custodians of the

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Kulin Nation and we pay our respects 

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of their legacy and their connection to

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land, sea and country and are mindful of

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that in our planning for the future of

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the City of Port Phillip and building on the

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legacies of our First Nations

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communities. Tonight's meeting, like

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always, is being conducted in a hybrid

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style and it's being streamed via

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council's web webcast page and Facebook

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live. And thank you to everyone that

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does tune in online. I know  there is

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quite a few people that do tune in

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online and a few that are also here this

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evening based on the online meeting

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attended. So, thank you for your

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participation and attending as well.

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Streams and recordings of council

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meetings are copyrighted and cannot be

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outed, reproduced, or republished

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without the permission of council. I'm

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sure there's better things to record

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anyway, but  make sure that you do

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follow those copyright  requirements.

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If we do experience any technical

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difficulties this evening, we will

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adjourn tonight's meeting for a short

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time to resolve those issues, but so far

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so good in the technology side of

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things. And I as always do remind

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attendees and any member of the public

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addressing council to please  extend

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due courtesy and respect to council and

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the processes under which we operate. I

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also do ask attendees

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 to not approach counselors at their

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desk during the council meeting. So if

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there is any documentation or handouts

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that you wish to share as part of your

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submissions or part of your questions to

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council tonight,  please provide those

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to our governance team on my right on

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your left by the door and they'll be

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able to distribute  the documentation

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to councilors. And similarly, in the

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unlikely event that we have an

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emergency, don't follow my directions.

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Follow the directions of the governance

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team by the door and they will be ablely

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able to assist you in the case of any

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emergency. Once again, welcome and good

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evening to our council meeting for the

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18th of March 2026.

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Do we have any apologies this evening?

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We do have one recorded leave of absence

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being councelor Crawford. We do have

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councelor Hardy who's joining us online.

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Welcome councelor Hardy.  any other

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apologies for this evening?

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The answer to that question is no.

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Therefore, we move on to item two, the

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minutes of our previous council meeting.

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Councilors, the minutes of our council

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meeting held on the 4th of March, 2026

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have been circulated. Are there any

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questions regarding those minutes?

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Forever hold your peace. If not, then we

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can move a motion confirming those

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minutes.  move councelor Thomann

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seconded Deputy Mayor. And we'll have a

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show of hands.

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carrying the minutes of the council

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meeting for the 4th of March and that

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was voted unanimously.

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Any declarations or conflicts of

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interest in tonight's proceedings? Does

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any counselor have a interest in a

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matter or anyone else have an interest

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in the matter being discussed at

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tonight's meeting?

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No conflicts.

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In which case we will now move on to

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public question time and submissions. So

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now this is our opportunity for public

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participation through public question

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time and we'll hear from members of the

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public. Firstly speaking to general

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questions and then we'll move on to

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items  before consideration speaking

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to agenda items for consideration here

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this evening. So, just by way of

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introduction, under council's governance

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rules, public questions can only be

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asked about items not on tonight's

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agenda and therefore public questions

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will be referred to an officer for

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response. If you are speaking on an

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agenda item, you'll be called up after

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this and councilors may wish to take

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your question up on your behalf and ask

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those questions. Once again, a reminder

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that due care and courtesy applies. So,

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members of the public must not disclose

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another individual's personal or

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confidential information, such as name,

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address, or any other piece of

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information that is not publicly

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available and could be considered

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private. Should anyone participating at

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tonight's meeting not take direction of

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the chair or comply with these

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conditions, then council may remove that

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person from the meeting if required.

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And please also in your public

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questions, just a reminder also to

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remain respectful and that statements or

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questions must not be defamatory,

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offensive or objectionable aimed at

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embarrassing counselors or a member of

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council staff or relate to matters

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outside the powers of council. They're

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the rules in which we operate. So our

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first question, we have two minutes. Our

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first question answer tonight is Michael

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Barrett. Come on down. Please start with

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your name and suburb and then the clock

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begins.

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Welcome, Michael Barrett.

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Thank you very much.

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Make sure is that on?

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Yeah,

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it is.

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Fantastic. Thank you.  my name is

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Michael Barrett. I'm from Port

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Melbourne.  before I commence  my

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question, my apologies to council. In my

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question to council of March I 4th, I

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referred to the next DC M1 data center.

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I was in fact referring to the next DCM4

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data center at 127 Todd Road, Port

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Melbourne. And I'm speaking this evening

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in regards to that  next DCM4 data

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center. Through you, chair, I direct my

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question to the general manager of

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building and planning services, City of

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Port Phillip. Further to my questions of

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March the 4th regarding the commonality

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of electriCity and water supply. Your

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response confirmed the commonality of

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water of supply across the cities of

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Melbourne, Port Phillip, and the M4 data

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center. However, your view was that

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these activities were managed by the

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Victorian government. My response to

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this and using the water act of 1989 as

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an example, both water and electriCity

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are managed on behalf of the public by

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the Victorian state government and

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specifically relating to electriCity.

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The Victorian government has recently

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reactivated the state electriCity

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commission on behalf of the Victorian

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public. I thank Cancer Holidayiday for

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his supplementary question to you on

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March the 4th, reinforcing to you the

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importance of electriCity and water

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supplies to the residents and rate

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payers of the City of Port Phillip. I

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also note with interest that the

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Australian energy market regulator

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estimates that data center power

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consumption will amount to 19% of

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Melbourne's electrical energy grid by

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2050, up from 2% today. and Melbourne

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Water estimates that current

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applications for water usage from data

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centers across Melbourne exceed the

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current top 30 non-residential users in

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Melbourne. I also note a joint letter in

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early 2026 from the Mayors of Melbourne,

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Sydney, Brisbane, and Hobart writing to

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the respective state governments

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highlighting the same issues as outlined

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above. Since the meeting of March 4,

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could you outline your proposed course

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of action relating to the issues

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identified above, including Victorian

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local and state government departments

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and the respective timelines for these

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discussions?

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Thank you very much, Michael Barrett.

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Your question will be responded to by

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Brian T, our general manager of City

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development.  thank you through you

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may and thank you  Michael for your

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question and for following up   the

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question that you had last week and for

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your interest the concern that you

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raised, it wasn't last week, it was a

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fortnight ago, the issue that you raised

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um was the site which as I indicated

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then is on the  City of Melbourne side

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of  Fisherman's Bend and just to

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confirm, we weren't part of that

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decision making process. we didn't

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participate. I did at that meeting

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undertake to um review or to engage with

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um the state government to on this issue

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because  as you've correctly

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identified the  commonality the impact

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of  electricity and indeed  water

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use which will um transmit past  local

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government boundaries. the conversations

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and indeed some of the documentation

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that we've seen from the state um have

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confirmed that in the state's

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government's view  they are not

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concerned about the impact on water and

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electriCity  they have identified that

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the site  which until

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 was used by the Westgate Park print

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which was demolished in  2024 and from

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their perspective the relevance of that

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is that the existing utility

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infrastructure

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 including power, water and sewer and

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indeed telecommunications connections

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are sufficient to manage  the draw um

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on water and power from this site. 

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they've also indicated that in their

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view um the ESD standards around water

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efficiency  is best practice for data

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um at the next DC MA data center. Now,

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, obviously we take account of that.

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Um, but I've also reached out and I

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haven't heard back from, , my

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colleagues at the City of Melbourne just

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to understand if they've got any

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concerns and I'd be happy to provide an

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update to you in terms of

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their view once we've had that

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conversation.

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Thank you.

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And further clarification from the CEO,

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Chris Carol.

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Thank you, Mayor, and thank you for the

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question I haven't had a chance to

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round back with Brian but the Mayor

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and I had the M9 meeting last week which

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the the Mayor and CEOs of the nine

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intermetro councils is a topic that has

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come up as part of that. The City of

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Melbourne  in particular who was also

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who's who's having a lot of these

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applications coming through particularly

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in the Fisherman's Bend area. Um and

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we're doing some work to try and come up

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come up with a joint advocacy position

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on this. We'll keep you informed.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Michael. Our next questions

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are from Matthew Roberts. Come on down.

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Starting with your name and suburb and

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then two minutes on the clock.

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Thank you, Mayor. My name is Matthew

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Roberts, South Melbourne.

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My first question is on the 10th of

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December, councilors voted to endorse

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the allocation of $300,000

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over two years to South Port Community

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Housing Group. The 2022 social and

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affordable housing regulation review

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made recommendations to the Victorian

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government to overhaul and improve

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community housing regulation in

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Victoria.

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Will council work with me to advocate to

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the Victorian government for these

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recommendations

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to be implemented in order to benefit

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all community housing residents in our

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municipality.

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Your second question as well, Matthew.

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Yes, this is on behalf of Kurt Writer in

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Elsternwick.

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Kurt writes, "At my last appearance

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before council, I referred to council's

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$300,000 grant to South Port Community

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Housing Group and asked if renters were

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consulted."

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Council confirmed the answer was no.

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I've read the 2022 state government

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review into social housing regulation

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and that review found that the housing

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registra is out ofd and not fit for

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purpose in adequately regulating

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community housing or addressing

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complaints from community housing

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residents.

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My question is, will council assist

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existing residents of this housing

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provider to resolve their issues or

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complaints and if so, how?

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Thank you, Matthew. The response will be

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provided by Christine Denning, manager

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of community building and inclusion.

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Thank you very much through you, Mayor,

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and thank you for the question. So, in

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response first to your first question,

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 council's homelessness and

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affordable housing strategy outlines

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council's role in social and community

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housing as a local planning authority

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and in promoting community well-being

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and inclusion. The funding provided to

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SouthPort Community Housing Group over

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the 2526 and 26 27 financial years

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speaks to these responsibilities and

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responds to the strategic pillars of the

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homelessness and affordable housing

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strategy. As part of implementing this

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strategy, officers will be developing an

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advocacy plan and consider the

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recommendations from the 2022 social and

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affordable housing regulation review in

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this development of the advocacy plan.

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You can provide any feedback regarding

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this to officers or specifically to me.

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Um, additionally, in the leadup to the

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upcoming 2026  Victorian election,

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council will be advocating across a

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range of different topics. The community

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is encouraged to add their voices to

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council's advocacy efforts and can

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suggest alternate alternative advocacy

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priorities through the 2026 Victorian

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election hub which is on the City of

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Port Phillip website. I encourage you to

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provide feedback on these advocacy

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priorities by completing the advocacy

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community engagement form.

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Um, in response to Curt's question, the

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funding provided to SouthPort Community

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Housing Group over the 26 27 and 26 256

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financial years was for the purpose of

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delivering two programs intended to

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assist people experiencing or at risk of

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homelessness with access to housing and

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supPortive wraparound services. As

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previously noted, um, these programs

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would have no impact to existing

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tenants. Council does not have

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regulatory authority over community

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housing providers. However, council

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officers can assist residents to

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understand their concerns and help

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identify the most appropriate pathway to

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resolve issues or complaints depending

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on the matter. This may include

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referring residents to the appropriate

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external body responsible for oversight

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and dispute resolution such as the

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Victorian ombudsman VCAT Rental Dispute

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Resolution Victoria, a community legal

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service or other specialist agency.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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Thank you, Matthew. , next question

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asker will be Isaac Herman.

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Starting once again with your name and

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suburb and this is two minutes for your

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public question thank you. Good

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evening Mayor, council officers and

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councilors the picturing democracy

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exhibition text text asks who and what

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is not seen. Does council consider that

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the exclusion of minorities from the

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exhibition is acceptable? Did the

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exhibition commission brief require

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multiculturally inclusive content?

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How does the exclusion of Jewish,

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Buddhist, Chinese, Confucianist, Hari

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Krishna and Hindu places of worship

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enhance social inclusion with

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significant Jewish content that is

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readily available from the City

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collection? Why does it only form one

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out of 106 images with significant

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Chinese content that is readily

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accessible from the collection? Why is

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there zero chi? Why is there zero

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Chinese content?

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The Mayor and councilors in December

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2025, their joint declaration stand in

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solidarity against anti-semitism notes,

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to our Jewish community, we say we see

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you. We stand with you.

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Why is this exhibition made the Jewish

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community invisible and unimaginable?

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 there looks to be also issues with

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the council social cohesion, diversity

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and inclusion policy also how does

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this demographically distorted

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exhibition reflect council policy?

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Um the Australian Human Rights

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Commission notes there is nothing casual

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about racism there may also be will

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council consider whether there are

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issues with the racial discrimination

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act of 1975.

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Localities are left out. Ripponlea is

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entirely left out. Elwood is barely in

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the exhibition. Historic campaigns, more

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significant campaigns are also ignored

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in this picturing democracy exhibition.

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Thank you.

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Thank you Isaac. And  the question 

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that response will be provided by

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Sorry, Kylie Bennett, our general

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manager of community well-being.

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Through you, Mayor, Isaac, thank you very

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much for your questions regarding the

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Picturing Democracy exhibition currently

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on display at the Carlisle Street Art

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Space. I understand the relevant service

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manager contacted you this afternoon and

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they shared with you that they are

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undertaking an internal review of

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council's processes related to this

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matter. Once they've completed this

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review, they will provide a response to

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the questions that you have outlined to

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council today. I also understand the

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service manager has invited you to

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participate as a key stakeholder in the

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development of council's new creative

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and prosperous City strategy to share

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your experiences and ideas. Council's

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arts program delivers work in

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partnership with a broad range of

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communities, including recent

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initiatives reflecting Jewish community

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history and heritage. Um, and and the

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service manager will respond to your

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your questions, the fullness of your

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questions once they've completed the

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internal review.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Isaac. And sorry, your name

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and suburb in your question.

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 Isaac Herman from Elwood.

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Thank you, Isaac next speaker is

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online, Adrien King.

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Starting with your name and suburb and

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then the two minutes will begin. Good

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evening, Adrian King, Middle Park

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three questions on the same topic.

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Please, could the council explain why

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the new pavilion at Lagoon Reserve is

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painted in the colors of Albert Park

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College, a state funded education

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organization. Question two, did Albert

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Park College at any point whatsoever

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indicate its desire for the second floor

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that has been built? Noting the

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additional second floor has come at a

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cost to rate payers of circa 3 million

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plus. Question number three, did Albert

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Park College at any time communicate to

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any council personnel its willingness to

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fund all all part of the cost of the

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second floor. Thank you.

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Thank you, Adrian. The response will be

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provided by Dana Pritchard. I'm manager

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of open space, recreation, and community

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resilience.

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 through you, Mayor Lagoon

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Reserve Pavilion is a council owned and

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managed community facility. The color

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treatment reflects a design decision by

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council informed by a broader reserve

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context and consistent with elements

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used in recent other recent council

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projects. Elbert Park College did not

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indicate any willingness to financially

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contribute to the construction of the

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pavilion. There was no direct

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collaboration

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or financial contribution from Albert

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Park College at any stage of the

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project. The second level of the

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pavilion was planned and delivered by

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council to provide a flexible space for

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community use. This space is now

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available for the community to hire and

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the completed facility is being

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showcased through a public open day

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tomorrow.

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Thank you. And our next speaker is Eliza

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Webb. Come on down.

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Starting once again with your name and

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suburb and then two minutes for the

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question. Welcome.

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Thanks I'm Alisa Webb. I live in

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Balaclava and I am the school council

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president at St Kilda Park Primary

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School located on Fitzroy Street, not to

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be confused with St Kilda Primary School

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located on Brighton Road. The City of

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Port Phillip has recently announced a

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request for more than $60 million in

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state government funding for projects

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across the area that aim to improve

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daily life for residents and which

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rePortedly address community feedback.

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St. Kilda Park Primary School raised the

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issue of the huge huge discrepancy in

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capital works funding for local schools

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with Brian Mes in December last year. 

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publicly available figures show that

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since 2016, Silda Primary School has

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received $10 million in funding for new

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building works and St Kilda Park Primary

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has received just 20 or sorry $200,000

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in the same decade. The schools were

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built 7 years apart in the late 1800s

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and they're both older heritage

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buildings requiring extensive

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maintenance and improvements. Neither

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school has an indoor hall and in fact in

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St Kilda Park Primary has never had one. Can

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council please provide insight into the

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decision-making process around

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advocating for St Kilda Primary to

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receive another $12.5 million in capital

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works funding while no request at all

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was made on behalf of St Kilda Park

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Primary.

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Thank you. The response will be provided

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by James Gullen, our acting manager of

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communications and governance.

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Thank you and  through you may thank

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you for your question Alisa. Um the

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process of our advocacy priorities is

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set out in our um council advocacy

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strategy which was endorsed in 2024. Um

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each year we undertake a review of these

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priorities.  and that review is

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informed by feedback from the community

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community groups and our counselors. 

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there's other feedback loops as well. Um

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all the proposed advocacy items are then

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assessed against and prioritized against

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our advocacy principles which are set

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out in our advocacy strategy include

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including whether there's a clear ask

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evidence of need and alignment with

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council's plan. Um our state advocacy

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election wish list was informed by these

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principles.  in relation to S Kilda

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Park primary, if there's a project of

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imPortance they wish council to assist

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advocate for, my recommendation is to

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complete our advocacy form online. 

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that form was launched in November and

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has been promoted through our social

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media channels.  for us, the next

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review of these priorities is coming up

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in June. So now is the right time to

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make that request.  and the form, if

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you um look at our advocacy web page,

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it's there or I've just Googled Port

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Phillip advocacy form. It's the first

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one that comes up. If you fill that out,

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we'll be in contact.

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Thanks, Elisa. Thank you.

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That concludes  public questions. So

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now we'll move on to  submissions

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before the agenda items. So once again

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remind attendees that any member of the

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public must extend due courtesy and

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respect to council and the processes

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under which we operate and to take

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direction from the chair whenever called

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to do so. Please remain respectful.

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Statements or questions must not be

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defamatory, offensive, objectional, once

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again, or aimed at embarrassing a

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counselor or member of council staff or

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another member of the public or relate

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to matters outside the powers of

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council. In saying all that, we're now

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moving to submitters or statements in

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relation to item 9.2, the draft forshore

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management plan for public consultation.

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Welcome back, Isaac.

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And  for the record, once again, name

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and suburb

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two minutes. Isaac Herman from Elwood.

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Um, thank you, Mayor. Um, so questions

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relating to the draft foreshore

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management plan. Um, my questions are,

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what will council actually do to improve

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water quality entering the bay? Noting

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that only a trickle of storm water

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passes through the elicutum nature

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reserve. Are we heading towards another

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though more serious algo bloom in the

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bay such as the disastrous one in 1950

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and those of the late 80s, early 90s and

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in 2013.

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 second question, considering the sea

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level considering sea level rise and

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storm surge risks that are already a

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present danger, will council re-examine

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and advocate for realistic safety

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measures identified by the cooperative

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research center for water sensitive

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cities in their swamped um project

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exhibition which cited tidal floodgates

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and a spillway plan.

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Thirdly, um, considering Elwood Canal

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flood mitigation and false safety um,

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concerns, will council adopt

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recommendations cited in the three bay

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blueprint 2017 rePorts, including

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advocacy for the aesthetically designed

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height increase to the can to canal

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flood walls. Um fourth  question as

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the much spruked costly Elwood main

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drain duplication will only address at

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best 11 and a half% of floodpronewood

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properties. What will council do to

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actually advance upstream flood

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retarding basin wetland options?

00:25:41.120 --> 00:25:44.120
 why was there and  on a slightly

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different tack, why was there zero

00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:48.696
historical regard to the location of the

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Point Orman playground, which was not

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only the site of our first quarantine

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ground, but also ground zero for the

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first attempted mass expulsion of the

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Aboriginal population of Melbourne?

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Will this plan lead to repeat

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non-performance of past plans such as

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the Elwood Canal Master Plan? um the odd

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canal management plan um the bay we're

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at

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um yep thank you

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thank you Isaac

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and once again a counselor may take up

00:26:21.600 --> 00:26:23.176
those questions on your behalf when we

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get to the agenda item so thank you for

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raising those Isaac

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that now brings us to item 10.1 speakers

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to this agenda item this is a

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collaborative procurement to new ebike

00:26:35.360 --> 00:26:37.015
and e scooter agreements we'll start

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with cla who's joining us online.

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Welcome Claire once again starting with

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the name and suburb then 2 minutes.

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 Claire miss Sinc Kilda um speaking to

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10.1 scooter and ebike procurement.

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Counselors, ebikes and scooters. I'm not

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against them. I'm against a project

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having an adverse effect in our

00:26:55.360 --> 00:26:57.496
community. I've lived experience

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overseas on the matter and know what

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good looks like. Firstly, public safety

00:27:01.520 --> 00:27:03.576
in parts of Port Phillip, particularly

00:27:03.600 --> 00:27:05.416
St Kilda residents, regularly witness

00:27:05.440 --> 00:27:07.736
scooters traveling at speed down narrow

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streets, including one-way streets,

00:27:09.360 --> 00:27:10.936
often late at night, frequently

00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:13.255
involving alcohol. If this behavior is

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predictable, and many residents would

00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:16.696
say it is, what responsibility does

00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:18.296
council accept for introducing

00:27:18.320 --> 00:27:20.775
introducing the vehicles that enable it?

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If someone ends up seriously injured

00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:24.056
after a high-speed collision, what

00:27:24.080 --> 00:27:26.135
responsibility does council believe it

00:27:26.159 --> 00:27:27.976
holds for enabling that risk through

00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:30.535
this scheme? Secondly, enforcement wise,

00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:32.135
the City of Port Phillip relying on

00:27:32.159 --> 00:27:34.456
Victoria Police to manage behavior

00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:36.376
associated with a commercial transPort

00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:38.616
scheme that council itself introduced.

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Police are already stretched dealing

00:27:40.159 --> 00:27:42.135
with serious crime. Why is council

00:27:42.159 --> 00:27:43.736
designed a program that depends on

00:27:43.760 --> 00:27:45.895
police enforcement rather than building

00:27:45.919 --> 00:27:47.496
stronger controls into the scheme

00:27:47.520 --> 00:27:49.816
itself? Thirdly, the burden placed on

00:27:49.840 --> 00:27:51.336
residents. This commercial agreement

00:27:51.360 --> 00:27:53.576
allows private off operators to leave

00:27:53.600 --> 00:27:56.600
hundreds of devices across public space,

00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:59.096
footpaths, parks, and even car parks.

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Yet, when those assets are obstructing

00:28:01.679 --> 00:28:03.895
access or creating hazard, residents are

00:28:03.919 --> 00:28:05.576
told to rePort them through SNAPS and

00:28:05.600 --> 00:28:07.816
solve. Why are residents effectively

00:28:07.840 --> 00:28:09.336
being asked to monitor and rePort

00:28:09.360 --> 00:28:11.576
operational problems created by private

00:28:11.600 --> 00:28:13.816
companies using public land? Why the

00:28:13.840 --> 00:28:15.736
operators not required to actively

00:28:15.760 --> 00:28:17.576
manage their fleets so these issues do

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not occur in the first place? And

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finally, the trial itself. If this has

00:28:21.360 --> 00:28:23.576
been a trial, what has council learned

00:28:23.600 --> 00:28:25.655
from the lived experience of residents

00:28:25.679 --> 00:28:27.496
who deal with the consequences every

00:28:27.520 --> 00:28:29.976
day? These are qu questions council

00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:32.375
counselors and office should consider

00:28:32.399 --> 00:28:34.375
before deciding whether this program

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should continue. Thank you.

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Thank you, Claire. And our second

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speaker on this item is Penny Essing,

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also joining us online. Please start

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with your name and suburb, and then

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you'll have two minutes.

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Penny, are you there?

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May need to unmute.

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Yes, sorry. That's all right. Welcome.

00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:06.440
Yep. Elwood. Um, thank you. Um, speaking

00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:09.895
to 10.1, councilors, before voting on

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item 10.1, I would like to ask a few

00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:13.736
questions relating to transparency,

00:29:13.760 --> 00:29:15.976
fairness, and management of this scheme.

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First, financial transparency. Council

00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:21.336
materials indicate that approximately

00:29:21.360 --> 00:29:23.336
182,000 per year is received from

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ecooter operators. Can council clearly

00:29:26.080 --> 00:29:28.056
state what the actual cost to rateayers

00:29:28.080 --> 00:29:29.816
is to administer this program?

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Specifically, how much staff time is

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spent responding to complaints,

00:29:33.120 --> 00:29:35.255
incidents, and operational issues? What

00:29:35.279 --> 00:29:37.015
are the internal, administrative, or

00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:38.856
compliance costs associated with

00:29:38.880 --> 00:29:41.255
managing the scheme? And when those

00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:43.096
costs are considered, is the program

00:29:43.120 --> 00:29:44.936
actually costneutral or is it costing

00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:47.655
residents money or rateayers? Second,

00:29:47.679 --> 00:29:49.496
the treatment of operators. There

00:29:49.520 --> 00:29:50.856
appears to be different operators

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working within the municipality,

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including lime and neuron. Can council

00:29:55.600 --> 00:29:57.736
clarify whether both operators are

00:29:57.760 --> 00:29:59.496
contributing financially to council

00:29:59.520 --> 00:30:01.976
under the same arrangements? If not, why

00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:03.655
has council allowed a situation where

00:30:03.679 --> 00:30:05.416
one operator may be generating revenue

00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:07.576
for council while another operating

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hundreds of devices across the mun

00:30:09.919 --> 00:30:11.895
municipality may not be contributing in

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the same way. Finally, foot foot path

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obstruction. Residents repeatedly rePort

00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:20.216
scooters and bikes being left across

00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:22.535
footpaths, particularly in high activity

00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:24.696
areas. Why has council not required

00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:26.616
mandatory docking infrastructure or

00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:29.640
control parking zones such as geo fenced

00:30:29.760 --> 00:30:32.375
QR bays or docking stations to ensure

00:30:32.399 --> 00:30:34.056
devices are returned to specific

00:30:34.080 --> 00:30:35.976
locations? Other cities have

00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:38.856
successfully implemented these systems

00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:41.015
to protect pedestrians access and reduce

00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:43.176
street clutter. So the question is why

00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:45.255
has Port Fillet not required the same

00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:47.336
level of control? These are imPortant

00:30:47.360 --> 00:30:49.015
considerations for councilors before

00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:51.015
deciding whether to continue or expand

00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:53.096
this scheme. Thank you. Thank you,

00:30:53.120 --> 00:30:54.856
Penny. And once again, councilors can

00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:56.856
choose to take those issues up when we

00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:58.375
reach that agenda item. So, thank you

00:30:58.399 --> 00:31:01.176
for your contribution. That takes us now

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to four submitters for item 11.1, the

00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:06.375
Port Melbourne special rate and charge

00:31:06.399 --> 00:31:09.399
scheme 2026 to 2031, consideration of

00:31:09.840 --> 00:31:12.535
objections and submissions. We shall

00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:15.559
start with Vincenzo D. Phelis.

00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:18.135
Hi there. Thanks for allowing me to

00:31:18.159 --> 00:31:21.159
speak. Um I just wanted to say um 

00:31:21.679 --> 00:31:24.679
firstly I I I object to um I'm obviously

00:31:25.360 --> 00:31:27.576
objecting to the special rate um

00:31:27.600 --> 00:31:30.216
proposal.  just a little bit about

00:31:30.240 --> 00:31:32.296
ourselves. We um have been in the

00:31:32.320 --> 00:31:33.816
community. We've been in the City of

00:31:33.840 --> 00:31:36.696
Port Phillip for 22 years working as um

00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.720
osteopaths and we now um work out of a

00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.216
little house in 126 Bridge Street, Port

00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:45.176
Melbourne. So we're in a heritage area.

00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:46.696
So that means that we're compromised

00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:48.135
compared to other businesses. We're not

00:31:48.159 --> 00:31:50.775
we have limited signage and due to the

00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:52.775
small premises there's only a small

00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:54.456
amount of patronage that we actually can

00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:57.480
do  or see patients during the day. Um

00:31:58.080 --> 00:32:01.080
I note that already we pay  quite a

00:32:01.360 --> 00:32:02.936
significant amount more in our rates

00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:05.655
than if it was just a normal house. And

00:32:05.679 --> 00:32:08.216
even though this the business expenses

00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:10.056
talking to a lot of um people as you'd

00:32:10.080 --> 00:32:11.576
be aware small businesses are

00:32:11.600 --> 00:32:13.096
hemorrhaging greatly and I think this

00:32:13.120 --> 00:32:16.120
would be quite a big imposition as well

00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:18.616
um on top of businesses that are quite

00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:20.216
struggling. I mean the amount of

00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.616
bankruptcies and insolvenies is is quite

00:32:22.640 --> 00:32:24.936
high in the whole of Melbourne. I note

00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:27.895
that in the Bay Street region closest to

00:32:27.919 --> 00:32:30.775
us between the old post office and say

00:32:30.799 --> 00:32:32.856
the discount wis discount chemist

00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:35.880
warehouse seven out of 12 of the shops

00:32:36.080 --> 00:32:39.015
are are unoccupied at the present and I

00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:41.736
just one one of my questions is  if I

00:32:41.760 --> 00:32:44.696
as I understand if 50% of businesses or

00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:47.720
or um commercial properties  object

00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:51.096
then this this proposal can't be passed

00:32:51.120 --> 00:32:53.576
but what happens to the places which are

00:32:53.600 --> 00:32:54.535
unoccupy

00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:56.775
If you're sending letters out, does it

00:32:56.799 --> 00:32:58.775
interpreted as they're acquiescing or

00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:01.096
saying yes, we're okay or does that get

00:33:01.120 --> 00:33:03.255
taken into account as it's null and

00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:04.856
void? You know, they don't have a

00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:06.936
response.

00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:08.535
And the other thing I would also like to

00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:10.856
add is so we we also besides our rates

00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.176
which are over $4,000 for a small house,

00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:15.976
we do pay $480 a year just for our

00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:17.816
A-frame as well. So, I think we're

00:33:17.840 --> 00:33:19.576
making a significant contribution

00:33:19.600 --> 00:33:21.816
contribution already to the council's

00:33:21.840 --> 00:33:24.840
fees and I think an extra virtually 10%

00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:28.440
um or 480 I think it was is is too high

00:33:29.360 --> 00:33:30.296
for and

00:33:30.320 --> 00:33:32.216
thank thanks Vinenzo. We are at time.

00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:33.976
Could you just please conclude with your

00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:34.856
name and suburb?

00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:37.416
Yeah, sure. Vincenzo Defilich and Port

00:33:37.440 --> 00:33:37.976
Melbourne.

00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:40.535
Thank you very much.  second speaker

00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:43.336
is Mike Stevens who's here in person.

00:33:43.360 --> 00:33:45.736
Welcome Mike. starting with your name

00:33:45.760 --> 00:33:47.096
and suburb and then you have two

00:33:47.120 --> 00:33:47.976
minutes.

00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:49.416
Thank you, ma'am. Mike Stevens, Port

00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.440
Melbourne. Um, I'm here speaking tonight

00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:54.696
in two capacities. Firstly, is the

00:33:54.720 --> 00:33:56.296
current president of the Port Melbourne

00:33:56.320 --> 00:33:58.135
Business Association, a role that I've

00:33:58.159 --> 00:33:59.895
held for a couple of years. And

00:33:59.919 --> 00:34:01.255
secondly, as someone who's worked with

00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:02.535
in Port Melbourne, lived in Port

00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:04.775
Melbourne on and off for 20 years. So,

00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:06.296
my perspective comes not just from one

00:34:06.320 --> 00:34:08.135
of the leadership, but from long-term

00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:10.055
firsthand experience of the precinct and

00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:12.055
the community around it. I strongly

00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:13.416
supPort the renewal of the Port

00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:15.416
Melbourne at special rate because

00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.496
fundamentally this program is about

00:34:17.520 --> 00:34:19.016
creating a precinct that people want to

00:34:19.040 --> 00:34:20.776
come to. It's about bringing more people

00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:23.095
into the area, building activity in our

00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:24.536
streets, and creating an environment

00:34:24.560 --> 00:34:26.615
where businesses can actually thrive.

00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:28.135
When a street is busy, everything

00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:30.216
changes. Businesses perform better, the

00:34:30.240 --> 00:34:31.976
area feels safer and more vibrant, and

00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:33.575
the whole community benefits from having

00:34:33.599 --> 00:34:35.815
a place that feels alive and connected.

00:34:35.839 --> 00:34:37.176
I've seen that difference over the

00:34:37.200 --> 00:34:39.176
years, both when things are working well

00:34:39.200 --> 00:34:41.416
and when they're not. Another key part

00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:43.416
of the program is improving the overall

00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:44.936
quality and mix of businesses in the

00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.176
precinct. We don't control who chooses

00:34:47.200 --> 00:34:49.176
to open here, but we do influence how

00:34:49.200 --> 00:34:50.776
attractive Port Melbourne is as a

00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:52.855
destination. If the street is active,

00:34:52.879 --> 00:34:54.696
well supPorted, and engaging, it

00:34:54.720 --> 00:34:56.135
naturally attracts higher quality

00:34:56.159 --> 00:34:58.616
businesses over time. Over the past

00:34:58.640 --> 00:35:00.776
year, it has been a noticeable shift

00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:03.256
with a new leadership team and center

00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:05.016
coordinators. There is renewed focus,

00:35:05.040 --> 00:35:06.856
better engagement with traders, and a

00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:08.296
genuine effort to move the precinct

00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:10.296
forward. We understand that there are

00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:11.976
some concerns and we are committed to

00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:14.216
listening and continuing to improve. But

00:35:14.240 --> 00:35:16.055
from where I stand as a president, as

00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:17.736
someone who has been part of the

00:35:17.760 --> 00:35:19.176
committee for over two decades, the

00:35:19.200 --> 00:35:21.335
special rate is not just a cost. It's an

00:35:21.359 --> 00:35:22.536
investment in the future of Port

00:35:22.560 --> 00:35:23.656
Melbourne and I believe it's an

00:35:23.680 --> 00:35:25.496
imPortant one. I especially ask council

00:35:25.520 --> 00:35:27.016
to supPort the renewal of the special

00:35:27.040 --> 00:35:29.095
rate. Thank you.

00:35:29.119 --> 00:35:31.095
Thank you, Nick.  next speaker on this

00:35:31.119 --> 00:35:33.575
topic is Nick Latros, who's joining us

00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:36.376
online. Welcome, Nick.

00:35:36.400 --> 00:35:38.936
Um hello there, Mayor. Um, thank you for

00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:41.496
allowing me to speak. Um, I've got a

00:35:41.520 --> 00:35:43.656
couple I'm a big fan of, , Nick Ladish

00:35:43.680 --> 00:35:45.976
from Melbourne Park. I'm a committee

00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:47.496
member of the Port Melbourne Business

00:35:47.520 --> 00:35:49.976
Association. I'm also a member of the

00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:51.736
City of Port Phillip Business Reference

00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:53.976
Group. I love the City of Port Phillip.

00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:56.776
I love U and I sincerely believe that

00:35:56.800 --> 00:35:59.496
traders associations are imPortant. My

00:35:59.520 --> 00:36:02.216
three main concerns are the five-year

00:36:02.240 --> 00:36:04.856
term. I think it's far far too long

00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:07.656
especially in this economic environment.

00:36:07.680 --> 00:36:10.680
It's changing rapidly. Vacancies are

00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:13.800
increasing and I what would like to see

00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:16.696
that scaled down to two to a three-year

00:36:16.720 --> 00:36:19.496
maximum term. The second point I'd like

00:36:19.520 --> 00:36:22.520
to make the 320k proposed raise levy in

00:36:23.839 --> 00:36:26.839
my opinion is far too high. Um, if that

00:36:26.960 --> 00:36:29.960
levy is to stay at the 320k, I'd like to

00:36:30.160 --> 00:36:33.016
be I'd like to see if there is a surplus

00:36:33.040 --> 00:36:35.256
of funds for that surplus of funds to be

00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:37.815
allowed to be rolled over rather than us

00:36:37.839 --> 00:36:40.839
being made to spend it. The biggest

00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:44.599
concern I have out of the um special

00:36:45.359 --> 00:36:48.359
rates coming forward is the funds

00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:51.800
raised. A third of the funds raised goes

00:36:52.240 --> 00:36:55.095
to external administrators. I I find

00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:58.119
that extremely hard to to cop that we

00:36:58.560 --> 00:37:01.560
raised 320k and a third of that goes to

00:37:01.839 --> 00:37:04.839
to outsource people. Um I just can't

00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.095
stomach that. I don't know what changes

00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:09.496
we can make to to to bring that forward.

00:37:09.520 --> 00:37:11.095
But I think if the commercial rate

00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:14.119
payers knew that a third of the 320k

00:37:14.160 --> 00:37:16.856
raised is going out to administration,

00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:19.880
I' I think I'd find that um they would

00:37:20.000 --> 00:37:23.000
find it insulting and unbelievable. Um

00:37:23.520 --> 00:37:25.496
I'm also just concerned about the the

00:37:25.520 --> 00:37:27.815
vacancy factor. It's getting worse. I

00:37:27.839 --> 00:37:29.016
don't know about affordability for

00:37:29.040 --> 00:37:31.256
bricks and mortar shops going forward.

00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:33.575
Um your council rates for a shop in Bay

00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:35.575
Street by the time you add your your

00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:37.095
other levies, your congestion levies,

00:37:37.119 --> 00:37:39.496
your ESV fee, you're close between 8 and

00:37:39.520 --> 00:37:42.520
10k and that concerns me. Um so thank

00:37:43.040 --> 00:37:44.696
you for allowing me to speak.

00:37:44.720 --> 00:37:47.176
Just in time, Nick. Well done. Thank

00:37:47.200 --> 00:37:49.256
you, Nick. And our final speaker on this

00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.736
topic is Tony Hill who's joining us here

00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:53.896
in the chamber tonight. Welcome Tony.

00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:55.496
Starting with your name and suburb and

00:37:55.520 --> 00:37:57.736
then two minutes.

00:37:57.760 --> 00:37:59.896
 thank you Mayor.  Tony Hill Port

00:37:59.920 --> 00:38:02.920
Melbourne. Um I'm here tonight just to

00:38:03.040 --> 00:38:05.656
speak in favor of the um special rate.

00:38:05.680 --> 00:38:07.976
Um it's been operational for some time.

00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:10.456
I was I'm feeling old. I was involved in

00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:13.335
the first one back in 1996. So it's been

00:38:13.359 --> 00:38:15.335
going for for some time as you can see.

00:38:15.359 --> 00:38:17.656
And during that time there's been um

00:38:17.680 --> 00:38:20.680
monies raised and spent and improving 

00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:23.960
widing pavements and um bringing life

00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:27.000
and focus to um Port Melbourne 

00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:30.055
reszoning of the between bridge  sorry

00:38:30.079 --> 00:38:31.896
between Graham Street and the beach to

00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.920
enable retail down there as well. So um

00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.176
I'm a great advocate for it. the amount

00:38:39.200 --> 00:38:42.200
of um money being contributed. I think

00:38:43.359 --> 00:38:46.296
someone said before there was $450 for

00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:49.320
them. That's  you know 365 days in a

00:38:50.160 --> 00:38:51.656
year. That's you know just over a dollar

00:38:51.680 --> 00:38:54.456
a day and you're getting a a lot of big

00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:57.480
bang for your buck in that regard. So um

00:38:58.800 --> 00:39:01.256
I think that the benefits  far

00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:04.280
outweigh any um any dis disadvantages.

00:39:05.280 --> 00:39:07.335
The the streets improved. We've got a

00:39:07.359 --> 00:39:10.359
voice on the street. Um the committee is

00:39:10.640 --> 00:39:13.416
hardworking.  they donate their time.

00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:15.896
The only monies that is spent are

00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:18.920
basically for um  for people to 

00:39:20.560 --> 00:39:23.095
help organize events, run meetings and

00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:26.119
and put into effect decisions made by by

00:39:27.200 --> 00:39:28.936
the committee. So from my point of view,

00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:31.960
I'd  100% supPort the the special rate

00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:35.496
going forward. So I'd urge the um

00:39:35.520 --> 00:39:37.815
councilors to supPort that. Thank you.

00:39:37.839 --> 00:39:40.839
Thank you. Tony was turning 16 in 1996.

00:39:43.680 --> 00:39:45.335
And we actually do have one more speaker

00:39:45.359 --> 00:39:47.575
on this topic.  being Jody Affleck.

00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:49.496
Welcome. Starting with your name and

00:39:49.520 --> 00:39:50.136
suburb.

00:39:50.160 --> 00:39:53.160
Jody Affleck, West Foot's Great. Um I

00:39:53.520 --> 00:39:55.416
work in Port Melbourne on Bay Street.

00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:57.256
I've worked there for seven years in two

00:39:57.280 --> 00:39:59.016
different locations and I'm here to

00:39:59.040 --> 00:40:01.335
supPort the special rate. I didn't

00:40:01.359 --> 00:40:02.696
understand what it was about. So I

00:40:02.720 --> 00:40:05.720
joined the committee and I have seen two

00:40:06.160 --> 00:40:08.696
different people running it. And in that

00:40:08.720 --> 00:40:10.856
time I've seen all the hard work and

00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:13.575
efforts that they put in since in the

00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:16.599
last year since we've had um two new

00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:20.440
people. We've had such wonderful

00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:23.800
response from a lot of the community

00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:26.136
about the events that we have. Our

00:40:26.160 --> 00:40:27.736
street definitely looks better because

00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:30.760
of the flags and the art and so many

00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:34.760
things that we do. Um, and I do think it

00:40:35.839 --> 00:40:38.136
is very good value for money and if we

00:40:38.160 --> 00:40:39.656
don't have it, we will definitely

00:40:39.680 --> 00:40:42.680
suffer. That's all I that's all I need.

00:40:43.200 --> 00:40:45.016
Thank you. Giving us back some time.

00:40:45.040 --> 00:40:47.736
Thank you, Jody.

00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:50.296
Which then enables us now to move on to

00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:52.856
item 11.2, to the South Melbourne

00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:55.256
special race and charge scheme of 2026

00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:58.216
to 2031 consideration of objections and

00:40:58.240 --> 00:41:00.696
submissions. Our first speaker on this

00:41:00.720 --> 00:41:03.016
item will be Anne Michaels who's joining

00:41:03.040 --> 00:41:04.936
us online. Please start with your name

00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:06.376
and suburb and then you will have two

00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:08.456
minutes. Welcome an

00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:10.616
thank you and Michaels South Melbourne.

00:41:10.640 --> 00:41:12.216
Good evening councilors and thank you

00:41:12.240 --> 00:41:14.616
for the opPortunity to speak. I'm um

00:41:14.640 --> 00:41:17.640
speaking in supPort of the special rate.

00:41:17.920 --> 00:41:19.496
I'm president of the South Melbourne

00:41:19.520 --> 00:41:21.815
Business Association and I'm actually

00:41:21.839 --> 00:41:24.055
here representing not only our committee

00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:26.136
but many businesses who care deeply

00:41:26.160 --> 00:41:29.016
about the future of our precinct. Over

00:41:29.040 --> 00:41:31.095
the past four years, our association has

00:41:31.119 --> 00:41:34.055
worked hard entirely through volunteers,

00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:35.815
small membership fees, and occasional

00:41:35.839 --> 00:41:38.776
grants to supPort the precinct. Despite

00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:41.016
these limitations, we've delivered many

00:41:41.040 --> 00:41:43.095
meaningful outcomes, including the

00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.335
Portion coffee festival, lighting

00:41:45.359 --> 00:41:47.575
improvements, safety advocacy, and the

00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:49.496
coordination of the heritage verand

00:41:49.520 --> 00:41:52.520
restoration project. All of these have

00:41:52.640 --> 00:41:54.776
been volunteer efforts, and in

00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:57.176
situations where the event is intense,

00:41:57.200 --> 00:42:00.055
we often work tirelessly 40 to 60 hours

00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:03.079
a week without any um financial um

00:42:04.319 --> 00:42:07.176
income for those. The achievements show

00:42:07.200 --> 00:42:08.776
what our community can accomplish

00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:11.016
together, but they also highlight the

00:42:11.040 --> 00:42:13.335
reality that volunteer effort alone

00:42:13.359 --> 00:42:15.416
cannot sustain the level of supPort and

00:42:15.440 --> 00:42:17.335
advocacy a precinct like South Melbourne

00:42:17.359 --> 00:42:20.136
needs. A special rate provides a

00:42:20.160 --> 00:42:22.295
transparent and a locally directed way

00:42:22.319 --> 00:42:24.055
for businesses to invest in their own

00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:27.079
precinct via marketing, activation,

00:42:27.200 --> 00:42:29.575
safety, advocacy, and business supPort.

00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:32.055
ImPortantly, it ensures South Melbourne

00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:35.016
has a coordinated voice, a body that can

00:42:35.040 --> 00:42:37.016
represent our businesses when decisions

00:42:37.040 --> 00:42:39.496
are being made about the future of our

00:42:39.520 --> 00:42:42.520
precinct. Without a funded program, we

00:42:42.560 --> 00:42:44.776
don't have that voice. South Melbourne

00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:46.856
also then risks falling behind other

00:42:46.880 --> 00:42:48.696
precincts that already operate with

00:42:48.720 --> 00:42:50.136
structured business improvement

00:42:50.160 --> 00:42:52.936
programs. This initiative, the special

00:42:52.960 --> 00:42:54.536
rate, is about strengthening our

00:42:54.560 --> 00:42:56.936
precinct, supPorting our businesses, and

00:42:56.960 --> 00:42:58.856
ensuring South Melbourne continues to

00:42:58.880 --> 00:43:01.176
thrive. On behalf of many supPortive

00:43:01.200 --> 00:43:03.176
businesses, I encourage council to adopt

00:43:03.200 --> 00:43:05.016
the special rate and invest in the

00:43:05.040 --> 00:43:07.575
future of our precinct. Thank you.

00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:09.256
Thank you, Anne. , second speaker on

00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:11.575
this topic is John Beavers. Come on

00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:14.599
down.

00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:21.800
John isn't joining us online.

00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:26.280
No. In which case, our third speaker on

00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:28.616
this topic

00:43:28.640 --> 00:43:31.640
 will be Andrew Shan. Welcome.

00:43:37.839 --> 00:43:39.335
Welcome, Andrew. Starting with your name

00:43:39.359 --> 00:43:40.696
and suburb and then two minutes.

00:43:40.720 --> 00:43:43.016
Very much. Name is Andrew Scone. I'm

00:43:43.040 --> 00:43:46.040
from South Melbourne.  I'm a proud

00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:48.776
resident, local businessman and also a

00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:51.575
committee of the SMBI.

00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:53.176
 as you would be aware, South

00:43:53.200 --> 00:43:54.776
Melbourne is a unique business

00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:57.016
community. We truly believe that we have

00:43:57.040 --> 00:43:59.335
a wonderful range of independent

00:43:59.359 --> 00:44:01.416
businesses, longstanding traders, as

00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:04.055
well as attracting creative and new

00:44:04.079 --> 00:44:05.575
operators.

00:44:05.599 --> 00:44:08.136
I fully supPort the SMB in its current

00:44:08.160 --> 00:44:10.696
form as well as my  give my

00:44:10.720 --> 00:44:12.376
wholehearted supPort towards the

00:44:12.400 --> 00:44:15.400
proposed special rate. In the last four

00:44:15.520 --> 00:44:17.496
or so years, our association has

00:44:17.520 --> 00:44:20.520
operated again um entirely by volunteers

00:44:20.640 --> 00:44:23.575
with minim minimal membership fees as

00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:25.416
well as an appreciated help from

00:44:25.440 --> 00:44:28.295
available grants all in order to supPort

00:44:28.319 --> 00:44:30.856
and promote our precinct.

00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:32.456
I believe our efforts have been

00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:34.456
recognized and acknowledged as highly

00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:36.456
successful. They show what can be

00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:39.480
achieved um with a united purpose.

00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:42.295
However, to continue the work um our

00:44:42.319 --> 00:44:44.295
volunteer efforts cannot sustain the

00:44:44.319 --> 00:44:46.055
level of supPort that our precinct

00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:48.776
needs.

00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:50.376
I believe the introduction of the

00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:53.176
special rate will provide a locally

00:44:53.200 --> 00:44:55.496
directed way for businesses themselves

00:44:55.520 --> 00:44:58.295
to invest in our own precinct. It also

00:44:58.319 --> 00:45:01.016
ensures that South Melbourne is a has a

00:45:01.040 --> 00:45:04.040
coordinated voice. And on that note, I

00:45:04.160 --> 00:45:06.055
encourage council to adopt the special

00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:08.456
rate and invest in the future of our

00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:11.416
precinct. Thank you. Thank you very

00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:14.440
much, Andrew. And our final speaker on

00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:17.800
this topic will be Wooty Opakaran.

00:45:23.040 --> 00:45:26.040
Are they joining us online? No. In which

00:45:26.640 --> 00:45:28.536
case

00:45:28.560 --> 00:45:31.560
that concludes  that item 11.2 and

00:45:32.319 --> 00:45:33.896
also concludes  speaking to

00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:36.216
submissions as well.

00:45:36.240 --> 00:45:38.216
Brings us to the time where counselors

00:45:38.240 --> 00:45:40.696
get to share their questions. So we have

00:45:40.720 --> 00:45:43.256
councelor question time.

00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:46.280
Councilors, any questions for items not

00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:48.536
on the agenda that you'd like to raise

00:45:48.560 --> 00:45:50.616
tonight? Councelor Jay, I saw your hand

00:45:50.640 --> 00:45:53.176
first, so over to you.

00:45:53.200 --> 00:45:56.200
Um thank you may um there was a resident

00:45:57.040 --> 00:46:00.040
from the local school Alysia that spoke

00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:03.079
before about the advocacy. Um can we

00:46:03.200 --> 00:46:06.200
just clarify that the money that was

00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:09.400
promised was actually a brought to us by

00:46:10.160 --> 00:46:13.160
a candidate. So um am I correct because

00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:15.256
I looked at the website James and it

00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:17.976
said 12.5 was already promised by Rachel

00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:20.616
Westway from Pan and the school falls

00:46:20.640 --> 00:46:23.496
into Pan. So, is it fair to say that the

00:46:23.520 --> 00:46:26.520
school has advocated their um MP and

00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:29.896
then their MP has come back to us and

00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:31.656
then we've supPorted that? How did that

00:46:31.680 --> 00:46:34.055
all play out? I'm just wondering what

00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:36.936
the I I don't want any school to think

00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:38.696
that we've forgotten them.

00:46:38.720 --> 00:46:41.095
Um and and it wasn't us looking at the

00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:42.776
school saying, "Hey, what do you need?"

00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:45.176
It was more so a reverse engineer of

00:46:45.200 --> 00:46:46.295
that promise.

00:46:46.319 --> 00:46:48.055
Yeah.  thank you for the question,

00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:49.736
Councelor Jay, and through you, Mayor.

00:46:49.760 --> 00:46:51.976
Um in terms of council's advocacy

00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.696
priorities, we primarily um prioritize

00:46:54.720 --> 00:46:57.016
projects that are council managed and

00:46:57.040 --> 00:46:59.016
council owned. So particularly council

00:46:59.040 --> 00:47:01.815
assets. Um in this case, the school has

00:47:01.839 --> 00:47:04.616
run a really impactful advocacy campaign

00:47:04.640 --> 00:47:07.335
relating to their community hall. Um

00:47:07.359 --> 00:47:09.736
they've run an independent campaign to

00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:11.976
us but approached our council for our

00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:14.696
supPort um leveraging off their existing

00:47:14.720 --> 00:47:16.696
campaign. So, you're correct that much

00:47:16.720 --> 00:47:18.136
of the hard yards have been done through

00:47:18.160 --> 00:47:20.295
the school and and their work advocating

00:47:20.319 --> 00:47:23.319
to local candidates in terms of what's

00:47:23.839 --> 00:47:26.696
listed on our website. It's um a

00:47:26.720 --> 00:47:28.295
election commitment. So, that's a

00:47:28.319 --> 00:47:30.136
non-binding commitment at this point in

00:47:30.160 --> 00:47:32.856
time, but it is what you'll see as we um

00:47:32.880 --> 00:47:34.776
get closer to the state elections where

00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:37.736
the candidates platform for election um

00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:39.416
subject to being elected and becoming

00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:41.176
the party in power of how they deliver

00:47:41.200 --> 00:47:43.256
that. But at this point in time, you're

00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.176
correct that the um Liberal Party have

00:47:45.200 --> 00:47:47.416
made a commitment that if the candidate

00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:49.176
and the party were to be elected that

00:47:49.200 --> 00:47:52.200
they would be investing in that school.

00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:56.216
Just to follow up on that question, we

00:47:56.240 --> 00:47:59.176
have the opPortunity for people to share

00:47:59.200 --> 00:48:01.575
their advocacy ideas or priorities that

00:48:01.599 --> 00:48:02.856
they would like to see council to

00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:05.176
advocate for on their behalf through the

00:48:05.200 --> 00:48:07.335
advocacy hub and the online forum too,

00:48:07.359 --> 00:48:09.416
don't we? So, if there's something that

00:48:09.440 --> 00:48:11.016
the community or members of the

00:48:11.040 --> 00:48:13.016
community would like to raise, they can

00:48:13.040 --> 00:48:15.575
do that through that advocacy hub form,

00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:17.896
can they not? , through you, Mayor.

00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:19.095
Thank you for the question. Yes, that

00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:20.936
that hub's a new way that we're looking

00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:22.936
to solicit feedback um from the

00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:25.256
community on what's um advocacy

00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:27.976
priorities for them. We do then assess

00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:29.736
um the eligibility of that project

00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:31.656
against our council plan and a range of

00:48:31.680 --> 00:48:33.575
existing criteria. And then we

00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:36.376
prioritize based on community need,

00:48:36.400 --> 00:48:38.856
community impact, benefit, um, and a

00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:41.016
range of other criteria.

00:48:41.040 --> 00:48:42.456
Thank you. And councelor Holidayiday, I

00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:45.480
did see your hand, so you're up.

00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:48.599
, just quickly to clarify, can the

00:48:49.359 --> 00:48:50.776
community members see what our current

00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:52.616
advocacy priorities are on that same

00:48:52.640 --> 00:48:53.976
place?

00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:55.976
, thank you, councelor Holidayiday.

00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.136
, and through you, Mayor. , yes. So

00:48:58.160 --> 00:49:01.160
we we actually have  quite a compreh

00:49:01.200 --> 00:49:03.496
comprehensive council advocacy website

00:49:03.520 --> 00:49:05.736
that has a list of our fully endorsed

00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:08.295
advocacy priorities. We also have a

00:49:08.319 --> 00:49:10.376
state election hub that has our wish

00:49:10.400 --> 00:49:13.400
list for um the upcoming election which

00:49:13.839 --> 00:49:16.055
is a more comprehensive list. It's our

00:49:16.079 --> 00:49:17.815
advocacy priorities which are things

00:49:17.839 --> 00:49:20.216
that council needs a partnership with

00:49:20.240 --> 00:49:22.535
state to resolve and also a range of

00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:24.295
localized capital projects where we

00:49:24.319 --> 00:49:27.319
would appreciate a commitment to fund.

00:49:28.559 --> 00:49:31.559
Further question. Thank you Mayor. Um

00:49:31.680 --> 00:49:34.680
with the  ongoing unpleasantness um in

00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:38.936
the Middle East

00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:41.960
 we're seeing a spike in in fuel

00:49:42.240 --> 00:49:45.240
prices um impacting you know pretty much

00:49:46.559 --> 00:49:49.095
everyone. Um I'm just wondering what

00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:51.416
exposure do we have as an organization

00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:53.896
to these higher fuel prices and at what

00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:56.696
point will this have a material impact

00:49:56.720 --> 00:49:59.720
on our budget?

00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:03.736
 through you Mayor. Thank you for the

00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.760
question.  look, we do obviously have

00:50:07.520 --> 00:50:10.376
um

00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:12.216
some risks associated with what's going

00:50:12.240 --> 00:50:14.376
on. Like we we obviously run a range of

00:50:14.400 --> 00:50:16.856
services at council which rely on fuel,

00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:18.216
but we also have a range of services

00:50:18.240 --> 00:50:21.240
that rely on supply of goods from the

00:50:21.440 --> 00:50:22.856
Middle East and from some of the major

00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:25.095
shipping lanes that we've got. Um and as

00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:26.616
we knew through co and through the

00:50:26.640 --> 00:50:29.496
Ukraine conflict initially um when then

00:50:29.520 --> 00:50:31.016
when there's trouble in that region it

00:50:31.040 --> 00:50:33.256
does um have flow on impacts to us.

00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:34.376
We're doing some work at the moment

00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:36.936
internally as part of the budget process

00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:38.936
to review that risk in a bit more detail

00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:41.176
and um we'll rePort back to councilors

00:50:41.200 --> 00:50:42.856
through that  in terms of what we

00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.256
think implications are. But we are

00:50:45.280 --> 00:50:47.815
looking at re reforcasting

00:50:47.839 --> 00:50:49.575
some of the inflation impacts on some of

00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:51.256
our major contracts that we have at the

00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:52.936
moment and that will have an impact on

00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:55.960
the budget process.

00:50:56.079 --> 00:50:57.896
Further question councelor Holidayiday.

00:50:57.920 --> 00:51:00.920
Yeah, thank you may um and to this um

00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:04.055
notwithstanding the actual supply

00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:05.896
impacts that might affect us at the

00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:07.416
moment. I'm just wondering you know what

00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:09.256
how insulated are we from some of this?

00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:11.815
like what what amount of our fleet you

00:51:11.839 --> 00:51:14.839
know the council fleet is electrified.

00:51:19.680 --> 00:51:21.176
 Paul Wood.

00:51:21.200 --> 00:51:22.376
Um

00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:23.736
thank you for the question councelor

00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:26.456
Hard and through you Mayor.  council

00:51:26.480 --> 00:51:28.936
has a strong commitment um  through

00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:31.256
policy to achieve zero emission fleet.

00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:34.280
 the majority of our light fleet is 

00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:36.456
either electric or a zero emission

00:51:36.480 --> 00:51:39.480
vehicle. Um and the exception to that is

00:51:39.680 --> 00:51:42.680
certain vehicles that are  required to

00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:46.280
be at taken home  at night and where

00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:49.416
there isn't charging facilities for

00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:52.136
staff. Um the challenge that we do have

00:51:52.160 --> 00:51:54.376
is our heavier fleet such as our street

00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:57.400
sweepers and our hook trucks and our

00:51:58.160 --> 00:52:01.160
beach cleaning equipment. Um that is

00:52:01.359 --> 00:52:03.256
predominantly for operational reasons

00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:06.280
not   electric. Thank you. and

00:52:06.720 --> 00:52:09.335
through you may the same can be said for

00:52:09.359 --> 00:52:11.656
our heavy vehicle fleet that we contract

00:52:11.680 --> 00:52:13.335
through the contracted services such as

00:52:13.359 --> 00:52:16.359
waste curbside collection. Um we have

00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:18.535
looked previously into electrification

00:52:18.559 --> 00:52:20.295
of some of our heavy vehicle fleet and

00:52:20.319 --> 00:52:23.319
then we did some  procurement um

00:52:23.520 --> 00:52:25.256
unfortunately the market is still

00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:27.416
maturing and we've had a few um false

00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:30.440
starts in that space.

00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:34.856
One more question.

00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.575
With that idea there of um you know

00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:39.335
testing the market again. You know I

00:52:39.359 --> 00:52:41.736
keep hearing about electrification of

00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:43.176
heavy vehicles. Obviously the mining

00:52:43.200 --> 00:52:46.200
industry heavily heavily electrifying um

00:52:46.240 --> 00:52:48.376
as we speak and solving a lot of these

00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:51.400
same challenges. Do we have provision in

00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:53.976
the current waste collection contract,

00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:57.000
the new one for electrification through

00:52:57.440 --> 00:52:59.575
the course of that contract, which is

00:52:59.599 --> 00:53:02.599
quite long.

00:53:05.359 --> 00:53:06.616
Over to you Paul.

00:53:06.640 --> 00:53:08.376
Um, thank you again for that question.

00:53:08.400 --> 00:53:11.400
, so the waste contract is actually an

00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:14.776
extension of the existing contract. Um

00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:16.616
and the existing contract doesn't have

00:53:16.640 --> 00:53:19.640
terms that  requires for electric

00:53:20.319 --> 00:53:23.319
vehicles. Um so there is limited

00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:26.856
opPortunity other than um continuing

00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:28.216
discussions as part of our contract

00:53:28.240 --> 00:53:31.240
management  around the future of fleet

00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:34.920
with the the service provider.

00:53:39.839 --> 00:53:41.736
Back to councelor Jay.

00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:43.416
Thank you Mayor. Thank you councelor

00:53:43.440 --> 00:53:45.256
Holidayiday. Great line of questioning.

00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:48.280
I have some questions. Um

00:53:49.040 --> 00:53:51.016
I suppose I also want to say just as we

00:53:51.040 --> 00:53:53.335
saw at the GP, there's challenges with

00:53:53.359 --> 00:53:55.736
electrifying all vehicles and I think if

00:53:55.760 --> 00:53:57.656
we're talking about electrifying

00:53:57.680 --> 00:53:59.815
heavyduty vehicles, there may be some

00:53:59.839 --> 00:54:02.696
challenges. My question is in the same

00:54:02.720 --> 00:54:05.176
vein of councelor Holidayiday's have we

00:54:05.200 --> 00:54:08.136
also with the rising cost of electriCity

00:54:08.160 --> 00:54:10.856
taken into the increase of electrical

00:54:10.880 --> 00:54:13.880
costs in our budget over the years

00:54:16.559 --> 00:54:19.416
 through you may like in private in

00:54:19.440 --> 00:54:22.440
prior years obviously that's a a largely

00:54:23.520 --> 00:54:26.520
um fixed cost that gets passed on but we

00:54:26.720 --> 00:54:29.720
have  invested in things like

00:54:29.760 --> 00:54:32.696
sustainable able energy.  we've we we

00:54:32.720 --> 00:54:35.575
went into a collaboration to give us

00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:38.599
some access to um renewable energy for

00:54:38.960 --> 00:54:40.535
some of our electriCity sources which

00:54:40.559 --> 00:54:42.456
has insulated us to some extent to some

00:54:42.480 --> 00:54:45.095
of those increases.  but we do we do

00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:46.776
feel those as well and that is part of

00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:48.535
our annual budget process where

00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:50.295
reviewing electriCity costs and and

00:54:50.319 --> 00:54:52.776
those other things. But we also um have

00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:54.376
spent a fair bit of time putting solar

00:54:54.400 --> 00:54:56.936
on a lot of our key buildings and then

00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:58.456
collaborating with others about getting

00:54:58.480 --> 00:55:01.256
access to renewables.

00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:03.335
Councelor Joy, further question.

00:55:03.359 --> 00:55:05.416
Yeah, just one more question on that

00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:08.440
vein. Do we also um harvest rainwater

00:55:08.720 --> 00:55:11.720
and and and reuse that as you know one

00:55:12.160 --> 00:55:14.535
of our sustainability

00:55:14.559 --> 00:55:16.136
because the cost of water with the data

00:55:16.160 --> 00:55:17.896
centers is also questionable going

00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:20.055
forward.

00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:22.696
Yeah, we through you may we do and we've

00:55:22.720 --> 00:55:25.720
currently got a project at the moment um

00:55:26.079 --> 00:55:27.815
around expansion of storm water

00:55:27.839 --> 00:55:29.256
harvesting. So we've currently got a

00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:32.216
scheme at at Lwood um and we're looking

00:55:32.240 --> 00:55:35.240
to expand that  obviously some

00:55:35.680 --> 00:55:38.680
technical work to do like it's piping

00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:40.376
it's putting in trenching and piping

00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:43.400
potentially from here into Moaran

00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:45.976
Reserve. Um we have done a fair bit of

00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:48.295
work over the years around um other

00:55:48.319 --> 00:55:50.055
options and we've we've come down to

00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:51.896
probably two major options. One of those

00:55:51.920 --> 00:55:53.256
ones we're proceeding with at the moment

00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:56.280
which is that that'll come up to a um a

00:55:56.720 --> 00:55:59.656
stage gate for decision making in the

00:55:59.680 --> 00:56:01.416
not too distant future. We're just going

00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:02.856
through the feasibility and making sure

00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:04.696
that it stacks up and it's it's

00:56:04.720 --> 00:56:07.416
deliverable.  we do look at some of

00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:09.416
our buildings where it makes sense to

00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:12.440
have um  some rainwater um

00:56:15.040 --> 00:56:18.040
storage solutions um and so yeah and

00:56:18.640 --> 00:56:21.016
where you where we can but in some of

00:56:21.040 --> 00:56:23.095
those areas like you know on small

00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:25.736
buildings and pavilions it doesn't it

00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:28.760
doesn't really work.

00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:32.119
Any further questions from counselors?

00:56:34.480 --> 00:56:36.456
I've got one.

00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:38.216
The Fisherman's Ben framework was

00:56:38.240 --> 00:56:41.016
predicated on the vision of 80% of

00:56:41.040 --> 00:56:42.616
transPort movements being a form of

00:56:42.640 --> 00:56:44.775
sustainable transPort including walking,

00:56:44.799 --> 00:56:47.256
cycling, and public transPort.

00:56:47.280 --> 00:56:50.280
Given and that was based on the vision

00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:53.559
of frequent bus services, a series of

00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:56.055
tram connections or light rail

00:56:56.079 --> 00:56:59.079
connections as well as also heavy rail

00:56:59.200 --> 00:57:00.856
 underground through Melbourne Metro

00:57:00.880 --> 00:57:03.256
2. Given that that hasn't been provided

00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:05.575
and I'm therefore assuming we 

00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:07.416
Fisherman's Bend is not achieving that

00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:10.216
80% target of modal share what impact

00:57:10.240 --> 00:57:11.656
does that have on the residents of

00:57:11.680 --> 00:57:14.456
Fisherman's Bend around given a climate

00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:16.535
of rising petrol prices and what impact

00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:18.936
does that have on the resilience of the

00:57:18.960 --> 00:57:20.295
current and future communities of

00:57:20.319 --> 00:57:23.319
Fisherman's Bend.

00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:27.000
 thank you Mayor and and um the  the

00:57:29.920 --> 00:57:32.920
issue around the um 80% transPort being

00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:36.295
sustainable was  indeed part of the

00:57:36.319 --> 00:57:39.319
fisherman's ben framework and  indeed

00:57:39.680 --> 00:57:41.656
part of that was through the delivery of

00:57:41.680 --> 00:57:44.680
tram train and bus infrastructure and as

00:57:44.720 --> 00:57:47.720
we've seen we've struggled to obtain um

00:57:47.760 --> 00:57:50.760
the business case for that  work that

00:57:50.799 --> 00:57:53.799
council did um I think in 20 as early as

00:57:55.359 --> 00:57:57.256
2017, but it might be it might have been

00:57:57.280 --> 00:57:59.736
a bit later.  show that the absence of

00:57:59.760 --> 00:58:01.496
public transPort would have an impact

00:58:01.520 --> 00:58:03.256
obviously on the commuters and then

00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:05.896
congestion, but would also influence the

00:58:05.920 --> 00:58:07.575
type of development that you would see

00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:10.456
at Fisherman's Bend and would compromise

00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:12.856
the delivery of the Fisherman's Bend

00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:15.095
vision vision in its entirety. not just

00:58:15.119 --> 00:58:16.936
in terms of the sustainable suburb, but

00:58:16.960 --> 00:58:19.176
in terms of the type of development that

00:58:19.200 --> 00:58:21.575
is seen to be required for Melbourne to

00:58:21.599 --> 00:58:24.599
deliver on its housing outcomes.

00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:27.575
And a follow-up question, our advocacy

00:58:27.599 --> 00:58:30.136
hub includes several public transPort

00:58:30.160 --> 00:58:31.815
and sustainable transPort priorities for

00:58:31.839 --> 00:58:34.136
Fisherman's Bend, including  frequent

00:58:34.160 --> 00:58:36.775
bus services, those long promised but

00:58:36.799 --> 00:58:38.696
never delivered tram connections, as

00:58:38.720 --> 00:58:41.335
well as also ongoing advocacy for the

00:58:41.359 --> 00:58:42.775
heavy rail Melbourne Metro 2

00:58:42.799 --> 00:58:44.376
connections, doesn't it not?

00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:45.736
 through you, Mayor, that's correct.

00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:48.696
And the 606 bus as well and a range of

00:58:48.720 --> 00:58:50.376
pedestrian treatments.

00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:53.400
Thank you very much.

00:58:54.400 --> 00:58:57.400
Any further questions from counselors?

00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:02.775
All right, that takes us now to item

00:59:02.799 --> 00:59:04.216
six, petition joint letters and

00:59:04.240 --> 00:59:06.696
deputations, of which we have none

00:59:06.720 --> 00:59:09.496
listed on tonight's agenda. And

00:59:09.520 --> 00:59:12.136
therefore, we'll move on to item seven,

00:59:12.160 --> 00:59:13.896
which is the beginning of our

00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:16.920
presentation of officer rePorts. The

00:59:17.920 --> 00:59:20.856
first item is 7.1 the presentation of

00:59:20.880 --> 00:59:23.880
the CO rePort January 2026 issue 125.

00:59:26.319 --> 00:59:29.319
Any questions for this rePort before us

00:59:29.520 --> 00:59:32.520
from councilors? Councelor Holidayiday.

00:59:32.720 --> 00:59:34.775
 thank you Mayor. Just wondering this

00:59:34.799 --> 00:59:37.799
 this relates to the later um 

00:59:38.079 --> 00:59:41.079
e-mobility  item as well. I think we

00:59:41.200 --> 00:59:43.496
talked a few months ago about inclusion

00:59:43.520 --> 00:59:45.896
of um

00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:48.696
crash and injury statistics in the CEO

00:59:48.720 --> 00:59:51.720
rePort. I'm just wondering if we when we

00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:54.376
might expect that in the in future

00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:57.400
rePorts.

01:00:02.640 --> 01:00:04.535
Thank you, Robin Bolley,  general

01:00:04.559 --> 01:00:06.456
manager of governance and performance.

01:00:06.480 --> 01:00:08.696
 thank you councelor for the question.

01:00:08.720 --> 01:00:10.856
 we're looking to have that in the

01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:13.880
starting at the March  update, so the

01:00:14.400 --> 01:00:17.335
end of the third quarter.

01:00:17.359 --> 01:00:19.335
Thank you very much for that question

01:00:19.359 --> 01:00:20.456
and that follow-up. Councelor

01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:23.256
Holidayiday, any further questions from

01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:26.280
councilors to item 7.1?

01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:31.256
If not, there is a recommendation before

01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:33.976
us. Do we have a mover for that

01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:36.376
recommendation or something different?

01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:38.216
Move. Councelor Holidayiday seconded

01:00:38.240 --> 01:00:41.240
Deputy Mayor Mes does the mover wish to

01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:43.976
speak

01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:47.000
briefly  the CEO rePort as ever is a

01:00:48.000 --> 01:00:49.575
wealth of information about projects

01:00:49.599 --> 01:00:51.896
that we have um and we're hoping to

01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:53.575
include in it in the future more

01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:56.295
information um about what's going on 

01:00:56.319 --> 01:00:59.319
in the City of Port Phillips. So 

01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:02.456
again this is a um great resource for

01:01:02.480 --> 01:01:05.016
the community and for us counselors. So

01:01:05.040 --> 01:01:07.736
I commend it to my fellow counselors.

01:01:07.760 --> 01:01:09.416
Thank you very much.  councelor

01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:11.016
Holidayiday's mover. Does the second

01:01:11.040 --> 01:01:13.256
wish to speak? Does any other counselor

01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:15.016
wish to speak to this item and this

01:01:15.040 --> 01:01:17.256
matter before us?

01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:19.335
In which case there are no further

01:01:19.359 --> 01:01:20.856
speakers. That takes us back to the

01:01:20.880 --> 01:01:23.736
mover. Do you wish to close? You were so

01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:25.976
convincing the first time. In which case

01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:29.000
we will put the motion and that motion

01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:32.280
is carried unanimously.

01:01:33.839 --> 01:01:36.839
Next item is item 8.1, our draft

01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:38.856
proposed committee infrastructure plan

01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:40.936
which will be released for engagement

01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:42.616
subject to the recommendations before

01:01:42.640 --> 01:01:44.936
us. Do we have any questions for

01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:47.960
officers on this item here this evening?

01:01:48.880 --> 01:01:51.880
Item 8.1.

01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:58.119
I have a question.

01:02:02.799 --> 01:02:05.176
the community infrastructure plan that

01:02:05.200 --> 01:02:07.815
helps us guide it helps us understand

01:02:07.839 --> 01:02:09.896
our existing demographics or existing

01:02:09.920 --> 01:02:12.535
communities and also provides us with a

01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:14.775
plan in terms of how we can deliver for

01:02:14.799 --> 01:02:17.095
our future projected communities. So

01:02:17.119 --> 01:02:20.119
this helps us provide a degree of

01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:22.936
understanding and therefore a degree of

01:02:22.960 --> 01:02:24.856
longerterm perspectives in how we can

01:02:24.880 --> 01:02:27.575
help plan for those plan and deliver for

01:02:27.599 --> 01:02:28.936
the provision of the community

01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:31.960
facilities that  what is actually a

01:02:32.079 --> 01:02:33.656
very fast growing municipality. The City

01:02:33.680 --> 01:02:35.496
of Port Phillip is one of our fastest

01:02:35.520 --> 01:02:37.656
growing municipalities in in Melbourne.

01:02:37.680 --> 01:02:39.496
That will help us achieve and meet the

01:02:39.520 --> 01:02:42.520
needs of that growth will it not?

01:02:42.799 --> 01:02:45.575
 through you may yes it will. It uses

01:02:45.599 --> 01:02:48.295
population forecasting to map supply and

01:02:48.319 --> 01:02:50.216
demand of community facilities that will

01:02:50.240 --> 01:02:53.240
see us out to 2050.

01:02:54.319 --> 01:02:55.896
Thank you very much Christine for

01:02:55.920 --> 01:02:58.376
answering that question. Any further

01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:01.400
questions to this item

01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:06.280
in which case we do have a

01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:09.880
recommendation before us. Do we have a

01:03:10.559 --> 01:03:13.559
mover?

01:03:14.720 --> 01:03:15.896
Yeah, actually I'm going to move this.

01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:18.920
Yep.  moved by the Mayor, Mayor Min,

01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:23.000
and seconded then councelor Holidayiday.

01:03:25.200 --> 01:03:26.856
The mover does wish to speak to this

01:03:26.880 --> 01:03:29.575
motion. This  the community

01:03:29.599 --> 01:03:31.256
infrastructure plan. It is really

01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:33.896
fantastic to see how this has progressed

01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:36.920
in giving council an understanding of

01:03:37.520 --> 01:03:40.376
not just current needs but the needs of

01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:42.055
our future communities. You know, this

01:03:42.079 --> 01:03:45.079
has been a really pivotal undertaking in

01:03:45.520 --> 01:03:48.136
mapping the future of Port Phillip.

01:03:48.160 --> 01:03:50.936
Something that I've been quite strong in

01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:53.095
discussing is how we need to view

01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:55.656
ourselves as a high growth municipality.

01:03:55.680 --> 01:03:57.496
And I note that that is actually a key

01:03:57.520 --> 01:03:59.976
advocacy tenant of the M9 and the

01:04:00.000 --> 01:04:01.335
various other groupings that we're

01:04:01.359 --> 01:04:04.359
involved in. This enables us to have the

01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:07.095
evidence base to conduct that argu to

01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:09.575
dis conduct that discussion with both

01:04:09.599 --> 01:04:11.176
the state and the commonwealth

01:04:11.200 --> 01:04:13.656
governments in what is it that we need

01:04:13.680 --> 01:04:16.216
to provide to accommodate for that

01:04:16.240 --> 01:04:18.055
future community. So, our future

01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:19.575
communities, of which, you know, there's

01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:22.456
60,000 projected in Fisherman's Band and

01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:24.216
another 20,000 on the City of Melbourne

01:04:24.240 --> 01:04:26.856
side, as well as also another 20,000 or

01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:29.496
so in  the domain lakeside precincts,

01:04:29.520 --> 01:04:31.736
let alone infield development elsewhere

01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:34.216
in this municipality. It allows us to

01:04:34.240 --> 01:04:35.896
actually identify what we need to

01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:38.376
provide those communities with the level

01:04:38.400 --> 01:04:40.696
of service, with the level of facilities

01:04:40.720 --> 01:04:42.775
that many of our other parts of our

01:04:42.799 --> 01:04:44.376
communities have been able to take

01:04:44.400 --> 01:04:47.015
advantage of for many years. So this is

01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:49.256
really essential work and I commend the

01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:51.896
officers, I commend the consultation, I

01:04:51.920 --> 01:04:53.896
commend all the stakeholder engagement

01:04:53.920 --> 01:04:56.920
that went into this plan.

01:04:57.200 --> 01:04:58.936
This is now the opPortunity for

01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:01.256
formalized comment and I know there was

01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:04.136
an extensive pre-conultation process as

01:05:04.160 --> 01:05:06.376
we brought together this plan. This is

01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:08.136
now the opPortunity for formal

01:05:08.160 --> 01:05:11.160
consultation through the draft document

01:05:11.200 --> 01:05:13.416
as we look at finalizing this document

01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:15.416
and providing that roadmap for the

01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:17.815
future. I just want to thank everyone

01:05:17.839 --> 01:05:20.376
for their contributions to what will be

01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:23.256
one of the most pivotal documents, one

01:05:23.280 --> 01:05:25.736
of the pivotal  plans and one of the

01:05:25.760 --> 01:05:27.976
pivotal pieces of evidence that we build

01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:30.136
in meeting our future needs. So, thank

01:05:30.160 --> 01:05:33.160
you to everyone involved. council time,

01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:35.656
the council officers, the community

01:05:35.680 --> 01:05:37.736
time, and the feedback that we've

01:05:37.760 --> 01:05:39.335
received through a very extensive

01:05:39.359 --> 01:05:42.055
pre-engagement process. We need to keep

01:05:42.079 --> 01:05:45.015
the conversation going. This is our way

01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:47.496
of providing the evidence base for what

01:05:47.520 --> 01:05:49.256
we're advocating for on behalf of our

01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:51.736
communities and to show why this needs

01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:53.575
to be delivered for our community. Once

01:05:53.599 --> 01:05:55.015
again, commend the work and commend the

01:05:55.039 --> 01:05:58.039
motion. Over to the second.

01:05:58.799 --> 01:06:00.456
 thank you Mayor and thank you for

01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:03.480
championing um the action that has

01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:05.416
delivered us this community

01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:07.976
infrastructure plan. This is um it feels

01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:10.775
to me like um kind of a direction

01:06:10.799 --> 01:06:13.656
setting thing and from here we have to

01:06:13.680 --> 01:06:15.896
um work out how to get to this

01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:18.295
destination. One of the things I found

01:06:18.319 --> 01:06:20.376
you know in the year and a half  I've

01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:23.400
been um council law is the difficulty of

01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:27.176
understanding what you know what

01:06:27.200 --> 01:06:29.256
infrastructure we have where where we

01:06:29.280 --> 01:06:31.656
have too much where we have too little

01:06:31.680 --> 01:06:34.680
um and what the f what we will need in

01:06:34.799 --> 01:06:37.799
the future as well. So hopefully this

01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:40.535
plan will give us um that destination

01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:43.256
and from this we can make a road map

01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:46.280
that will take us to 2056

01:06:46.319 --> 01:06:49.319
um if we make it  and make sure that

01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:53.176
all of our residents  have access to

01:06:53.200 --> 01:06:56.200
highquality um community infrastructure

01:06:56.640 --> 01:06:59.256
delivered by their council. So, I'm

01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:01.656
super happy with this and happy that it

01:07:01.680 --> 01:07:04.136
unlocks a whole bunch of other work um

01:07:04.160 --> 01:07:06.535
as well for us to provide for those

01:07:06.559 --> 01:07:08.775
future residents of the City of Port

01:07:08.799 --> 01:07:10.136
Phillip.

01:07:10.160 --> 01:07:11.656
Thank you very much. Seconded by

01:07:11.680 --> 01:07:12.936
Councelor Holidayiday. Any other

01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:15.575
counselors? Yes, councelor Consol over

01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:15.976
to you.

01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:17.176
Thank you. I appreciate the work that

01:07:17.200 --> 01:07:19.815
has gone into this. Um, I do find that

01:07:19.839 --> 01:07:22.216
because we've excluded the sPorts where

01:07:22.240 --> 01:07:25.015
that has its own needs, it might also 

01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:27.335
take away from some of that multi-use

01:07:27.359 --> 01:07:29.176
that we really need to rely on now with

01:07:29.200 --> 01:07:31.656
such limited additional space in our

01:07:31.680 --> 01:07:34.456
area. What I also want to highlight is

01:07:34.480 --> 01:07:35.976
how we are going to be able to deliver

01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:37.976
this. And to me, that's going to have to

01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:40.136
be through a lot of um partnerships,

01:07:40.160 --> 01:07:42.535
agreements, something about integrating

01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:44.055
into the vertical cities that are

01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:46.775
popping up. Lakeside Ward has a heap of

01:07:46.799 --> 01:07:49.256
development going on. Why can't we as a

01:07:49.280 --> 01:07:52.280
council get a civic area heart into that

01:07:53.119 --> 01:07:56.119
area by talking with developers, leasing

01:07:56.559 --> 01:07:58.535
out of space, whatever it is, we can't

01:07:58.559 --> 01:08:00.456
just go and build standalone buildings

01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:02.376
anymore, purchase land, it's just not

01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:04.055
possible, especially because we need to

01:08:04.079 --> 01:08:06.216
densify more. So, we need to turn our

01:08:06.240 --> 01:08:07.815
heads to how we're going to deliver this

01:08:07.839 --> 01:08:09.256
and it probably will be through a

01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:12.280
vertical um integration.

01:08:14.160 --> 01:08:16.056
Thank you, councelor Consol. Any other

01:08:16.080 --> 01:08:19.080
councelor wish to speak? Councelor Jay.

01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:25.239
Um, I commend this policy or

01:08:28.239 --> 01:08:31.239
paperwork um and the intent behind it.

01:08:32.640 --> 01:08:35.096
There is certainly benefits to having

01:08:35.120 --> 01:08:37.255
single member wards and one of them is

01:08:37.279 --> 01:08:39.335
being able to feed back into the into

01:08:39.359 --> 01:08:42.135
the council what our community needs.

01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:45.016
um and then the problem will be trying

01:08:45.040 --> 01:08:46.456
to find the money to give the community

01:08:46.480 --> 01:08:48.936
what they need. So,  happy to send

01:08:48.960 --> 01:08:50.775
this out to engagement and I certainly

01:08:50.799 --> 01:08:53.096
suggest anyone listening certainly plug

01:08:53.120 --> 01:08:55.175
into this engagement and give us your

01:08:55.199 --> 01:08:58.199
feedback on what you think you need.

01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:00.295
Thank you.

01:09:00.319 --> 01:09:03.319
Any other counselors wish to speak?

01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:06.295
Going once, going twice, otherwise it

01:09:06.319 --> 01:09:09.319
comes back to me for close.

01:09:10.080 --> 01:09:12.695
All right, over to me to close the

01:09:12.719 --> 01:09:15.496
motion.  just in closing, you know,

01:09:15.520 --> 01:09:17.976
this once again is a pivotal plan going

01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:20.295
forward. It gives us the evidence base

01:09:20.319 --> 01:09:22.135
to actually have the discussion around

01:09:22.159 --> 01:09:25.159
partnerships and models of delivery. So

01:09:25.359 --> 01:09:27.335
this is not about the built form around

01:09:27.359 --> 01:09:29.655
whether we're advocating for standalone

01:09:29.679 --> 01:09:32.056
or vertical type development of

01:09:32.080 --> 01:09:33.815
community infrastructure. It actually is

01:09:33.839 --> 01:09:35.976
around how do we have the evidence base

01:09:36.000 --> 01:09:38.376
to show where we need these facilities

01:09:38.400 --> 01:09:40.215
and then where they should be provided.

01:09:40.239 --> 01:09:42.056
That enables us to then have those

01:09:42.080 --> 01:09:44.856
discussions around the detail.

01:09:44.880 --> 01:09:47.416
The sPort and recreation strategy we are

01:09:47.440 --> 01:09:49.096
envisaging to commence in the new

01:09:49.120 --> 01:09:51.175
financial year and that gives us the

01:09:51.199 --> 01:09:53.576
opPortunity to look at how we can then

01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:56.056
my aim out of this eventually is how we

01:09:56.080 --> 01:09:57.496
actually merge those two to then look at

01:09:57.520 --> 01:09:59.816
the modu space. But we should note that

01:09:59.840 --> 01:10:01.336
we are actually doing that work around

01:10:01.360 --> 01:10:03.416
sPort and recreational facilities as

01:10:03.440 --> 01:10:06.440
well. And similarly, I believe once we

01:10:06.880 --> 01:10:09.016
can take this further in terms of how we

01:10:09.040 --> 01:10:11.816
look at the regional connections and our

01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:13.976
facilities around our partners in

01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:17.000
neighboring municipalities and also very

01:10:17.199 --> 01:10:18.616
imPortantly given that we had that

01:10:18.640 --> 01:10:20.376
discussion of cost of living and

01:10:20.400 --> 01:10:22.695
resilience, the transPort links to and

01:10:22.719 --> 01:10:25.496
from varying facilities as well. While

01:10:25.520 --> 01:10:28.056
we have areas like St. Kilda that do

01:10:28.080 --> 01:10:30.456
have relative to other parts of Port

01:10:30.480 --> 01:10:33.480
Phillip a high proPortion of facilities.

01:10:33.760 --> 01:10:36.456
Currently there are poor transPort links

01:10:36.480 --> 01:10:37.896
connecting communities from Fisherman's

01:10:37.920 --> 01:10:40.376
Bend and Port Melbourne to places like

01:10:40.400 --> 01:10:42.856
Sunkilda that hampers social cohesion

01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:45.256
and resilience in our community. Great

01:10:45.280 --> 01:10:47.336
work, great evidence base and I really

01:10:47.360 --> 01:10:49.736
look forward to how we can continue to

01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:51.816
build that evidence base to strengthen

01:10:51.840 --> 01:10:53.336
our discussion from advocacy

01:10:53.360 --> 01:10:55.256
perspectives and the partners that we

01:10:55.280 --> 01:10:58.056
can look at supPorting in delivering

01:10:58.080 --> 01:11:00.215
this infrastructure. Commend the work

01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:02.135
and in that case we will be putting the

01:11:02.159 --> 01:11:05.159
motion all those in

01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:09.880
carried unanimously. Well done.

01:11:11.679 --> 01:11:12.776
Item

01:11:12.800 --> 01:11:15.336
9.1 community electric vehicle charging

01:11:15.360 --> 01:11:17.576
program.

01:11:17.600 --> 01:11:20.600
Any questions for officers? Yes,

01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:23.016
councelor Holidayiday.

01:11:23.040 --> 01:11:25.496
Thank you, Mayor. Um, we've had a lot of

01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:28.520
discussions  around this  charging

01:11:28.800 --> 01:11:31.175
program. I'm just wondering um where we

01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:34.199
landed with the kind of number of

01:11:34.880 --> 01:11:37.880
installations and what mechanisms you

01:11:38.880 --> 01:11:41.816
that you officers have given yourselves

01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:44.840
in this um

01:11:44.880 --> 01:11:47.880
in this plan to manage the the demand

01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:51.896
and the supply and the other impacts of

01:11:51.920 --> 01:11:54.920
the roll out of these new technologies.

01:11:55.520 --> 01:11:58.520
Over to you Mike Fischer, manager of

01:11:59.040 --> 01:12:01.256
City planning and sustainability.

01:12:01.280 --> 01:12:02.695
 thank you and through you Mayor.

01:12:02.719 --> 01:12:05.416
Thank you for the question. Um so yes we

01:12:05.440 --> 01:12:08.135
have um been looking at the the number

01:12:08.159 --> 01:12:11.016
this is this expansion which we're

01:12:11.040 --> 01:12:13.016
looking at tonight is is part of the

01:12:13.040 --> 01:12:15.336
original trial that was um adopted in

01:12:15.360 --> 01:12:18.360
2024. So that the number is 100 devices

01:12:19.280 --> 01:12:21.336
or four years whatever comes first. So

01:12:21.360 --> 01:12:23.816
these new devices that we hope to see

01:12:23.840 --> 01:12:26.840
rolled out would be part of that. Um we

01:12:27.040 --> 01:12:28.856
haven't limited the the number per

01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:30.936
device. We've sort of opened that up and

01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:32.536
allowed that to be part of that original

01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:35.560
trial number. We will then do a review

01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:38.215
as we get through this to to see where

01:12:38.239 --> 01:12:39.896
we go next and and opening that up

01:12:39.920 --> 01:12:41.416
broadly and what we've learned and where

01:12:41.440 --> 01:12:43.736
we go from there.

01:12:43.760 --> 01:12:46.536
Thank you, Councelor Consol.

01:12:46.560 --> 01:12:49.560
Thank you. Um I I believe I read before

01:12:49.840 --> 01:12:51.816
that the um permit charger is the only

01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:53.655
one who can charge from the charging

01:12:53.679 --> 01:12:56.215
unit. Is that correct? And if so, why

01:12:56.239 --> 01:12:57.976
why can't we allow that to be they can

01:12:58.000 --> 01:12:59.896
use their neighbors? They could get

01:12:59.920 --> 01:13:01.655
people Aren't we trying to get more

01:13:01.679 --> 01:13:04.679
people to have access to infrastructure

01:13:06.640 --> 01:13:08.215
um through your mid could you repeat the

01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:09.816
first part of the question? Council.

01:13:09.840 --> 01:13:12.296
Um, my notes are from the briefing, so

01:13:12.320 --> 01:13:14.056
I'm sorry if it's old by now, but it's

01:13:14.080 --> 01:13:16.135
um the permit charger only to charge

01:13:16.159 --> 01:13:19.016
from the per um from the private charger

01:13:19.040 --> 01:13:20.695
unit.

01:13:20.719 --> 01:13:22.215
Is is that something we're actually

01:13:22.239 --> 01:13:24.856
going to enforce?

01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:26.456
So like I put it in my house for

01:13:26.480 --> 01:13:28.695
example, only my family can use it. I

01:13:28.719 --> 01:13:30.376
can't say, "Hey friend, come charge a

01:13:30.400 --> 01:13:32.856
car at my place." Because

01:13:32.880 --> 01:13:35.016
I have access. I've got solar panel on

01:13:35.040 --> 01:13:37.096
my roof. like I don't actually have this

01:13:37.120 --> 01:13:40.056
for the record but um

01:13:40.080 --> 01:13:41.816
yeah so so through you may miss so I

01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:43.896
think I mean

01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:45.175
effectively for the permit we're

01:13:45.199 --> 01:13:48.199
ensuring that the the device isn't a p

01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:50.695
public device I think what we're saying

01:13:50.719 --> 01:13:52.135
this is a private device attached to

01:13:52.159 --> 01:13:54.296
that they get a permit from their house

01:13:54.320 --> 01:13:56.135
to that device it's certainly not

01:13:56.159 --> 01:13:59.159
encouraged that they start to share that

01:13:59.440 --> 01:14:02.135
device around however I can come we can

01:14:02.159 --> 01:14:04.616
come back and talk about the permit

01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:06.856
conditions and the enforcement of that

01:14:06.880 --> 01:14:09.880
um if that is um of interest.

01:14:10.000 --> 01:14:12.856
And another just about um the arm that

01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:14.936
comes over to charge. Do we have rules

01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:16.456
that will stipulate please return the

01:14:16.480 --> 01:14:18.296
arm to your property so it's like you

01:14:18.320 --> 01:14:19.976
return your bin to your property? Kind

01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:21.976
of just that etiquette of it's not just

01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:23.655
always going to be hanging over.

01:14:23.679 --> 01:14:26.679
Um and through you um yes. Um certainly

01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:29.576
that's part of the permitting conditions

01:14:29.600 --> 01:14:32.600
is that the um boom arms as they're set

01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:35.960
up return to um a laid down state

01:14:37.679 --> 01:14:40.679
effectively after after use.

01:14:41.040 --> 01:14:42.616
Thank you.

01:14:42.640 --> 01:14:44.695
Councelor Holidayiday, you had a further

01:14:44.719 --> 01:14:47.496
question.

01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:49.016
Um

01:14:49.040 --> 01:14:50.856
I think I'm going to channel Marcus

01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:53.880
Pearl here. When when we think about the

01:14:55.040 --> 01:14:58.040
regulatory burden of this of the process

01:14:58.400 --> 01:15:00.215
we put in here, there's quite an

01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:02.695
extensive kind of checklist of

01:15:02.719 --> 01:15:05.719
activities that that you know the the um

01:15:07.920 --> 01:15:09.736
you know the installer has to go through

01:15:09.760 --> 01:15:12.760
the permitting process here.

01:15:13.120 --> 01:15:16.120
Um, and it, you know, at first glance it

01:15:16.880 --> 01:15:19.880
feels like that's a lot of bureaucracy

01:15:19.920 --> 01:15:21.655
for someone who wants to charge their

01:15:21.679 --> 01:15:23.976
car. And I understand, you know, I can

01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:25.336
understand each one of those steps in

01:15:25.360 --> 01:15:28.360
isolation. Do we have any view on

01:15:29.120 --> 01:15:32.120
whether that level of um bureaucratic um

01:15:34.880 --> 01:15:37.096
process will be required in the longer

01:15:37.120 --> 01:15:39.496
term or whether we will be able to

01:15:39.520 --> 01:15:42.520
streamline that um you know as we as we

01:15:43.600 --> 01:15:45.336
as these things mature and our

01:15:45.360 --> 01:15:47.416
understanding and you know um

01:15:47.440 --> 01:15:49.576
familiarization with the technology

01:15:49.600 --> 01:15:51.416
matures

01:15:51.440 --> 01:15:53.496
through you may I certainly think that

01:15:53.520 --> 01:15:55.256
we will be continuing to streamline I

01:15:55.280 --> 01:15:57.096
think we've seen through even this trial

01:15:57.120 --> 01:15:59.175
that we've streamlined. We're obviously

01:15:59.199 --> 01:16:02.056
opening it up tonight potentially for

01:16:02.080 --> 01:16:03.976
new emerging technology. So, we're

01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:06.056
seeing this change quite rapidly and

01:16:06.080 --> 01:16:07.976
we've gone away and done work with the

01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:11.000
original um curb charge on the on the

01:16:11.120 --> 01:16:13.576
conditions and the  the sort of

01:16:13.600 --> 01:16:15.175
technology and understanding that and

01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:16.616
the safety requirements. So we're

01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:18.616
streamlining all the time and I think as

01:16:18.640 --> 01:16:20.135
we get through this trial that's really

01:16:20.159 --> 01:16:21.896
what we want to do is is to make sure

01:16:21.920 --> 01:16:24.856
that we're facilitating these devices as

01:16:24.880 --> 01:16:26.856
best we protecting our assets and making

01:16:26.880 --> 01:16:29.016
sure they're safe etc. but that we

01:16:29.040 --> 01:16:30.695
reduce that burden. So yes certainly

01:16:30.719 --> 01:16:33.719
that's where we want to head.

01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:36.840
Any further questions on item 9.1?

01:16:42.480 --> 01:16:44.856
No further questions. In which case

01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:46.456
there is a recommendation before us

01:16:46.480 --> 01:16:48.215
which councelor Holidayiday is eager to

01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:49.816
move and therefore is moving and

01:16:49.840 --> 01:16:52.695
seconded. Councelor Tamard. Does the

01:16:52.719 --> 01:16:55.175
mover wish to speak?

01:16:55.199 --> 01:16:58.199
Of course. Um

01:16:59.679 --> 01:17:02.536
this 

01:17:02.560 --> 01:17:05.560
this area the the process of

01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:08.856
electrification of our vehicle fleet is

01:17:08.880 --> 01:17:11.416
an area that  as we discover step by

01:17:11.440 --> 01:17:14.440
step is very complex. Um you know we

01:17:14.560 --> 01:17:17.175
started with the the curb charger a few

01:17:17.199 --> 01:17:19.175
years back and you know worked our way

01:17:19.199 --> 01:17:22.199
through that process. And here in the

01:17:22.239 --> 01:17:25.016
City of Port Phillip, we have, you know,

01:17:25.040 --> 01:17:27.416
a not a unique situation, but we have a

01:17:27.440 --> 01:17:29.175
lot of renters. We have a lot of people

01:17:29.199 --> 01:17:31.496
who don't have off- street parking. We

01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:32.616
have a lot of people living in

01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:35.256
multi-user dwellings in walk ups in

01:17:35.280 --> 01:17:37.736
high-rise buildings. And it feels like

01:17:37.760 --> 01:17:40.760
this is another piece in the puzzle that

01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:43.880
allows some number of our people to have

01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:47.000
the choice to have an electric vehicle.

01:17:48.080 --> 01:17:50.536
um whereas they probably couldn't do it

01:17:50.560 --> 01:17:53.256
before and I think we've got lots more

01:17:53.280 --> 01:17:55.816
of these pieces missing from this puzzle

01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:57.976
yet. Um

01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:00.456
but this is a good step for a bunch of

01:18:00.480 --> 01:18:02.376
people who previously didn't have access

01:18:02.400 --> 01:18:04.856
to charging to gain access to charging

01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:07.096
and to have the same options for

01:18:07.120 --> 01:18:08.856
electrification of their vehicles that

01:18:08.880 --> 01:18:11.880
other people um do have because they

01:18:12.400 --> 01:18:13.816
have off streetet parking or because

01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:16.536
they have it provided elsewhere. So um

01:18:16.560 --> 01:18:18.616
thank you to the officers for um

01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:21.016
progressing this for adding to people's

01:18:21.040 --> 01:18:23.976
options and I hope that people um you

01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:26.695
know take up these options and roll like

01:18:26.719 --> 01:18:28.056
you know choose one or the other of

01:18:28.080 --> 01:18:29.816
these technologies and we see how they

01:18:29.840 --> 01:18:31.256
work. You know the people here are

01:18:31.280 --> 01:18:32.456
always going to be on the forefront of

01:18:32.480 --> 01:18:35.480
these um testing out new things. So um

01:18:35.600 --> 01:18:37.576
their work and their engagement with

01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:39.016
these new technologies is going to be

01:18:39.040 --> 01:18:41.896
invaluable. Um so I'm super happy to see

01:18:41.920 --> 01:18:44.920
this and super happy um thankful for the

01:18:45.040 --> 01:18:47.256
 officers for their engagement and

01:18:47.280 --> 01:18:49.416
consultation on this um particular

01:18:49.440 --> 01:18:52.056
proposal.  so it's great to see this

01:18:52.080 --> 01:18:55.080
coming and I hope we all vote for it.

01:18:55.120 --> 01:18:56.776
Thank you. Councelor Holidayiday does

01:18:56.800 --> 01:18:58.215
the second wish to speak. Councelor

01:18:58.239 --> 01:18:59.655
Tamman.

01:18:59.679 --> 01:19:02.135
Yeah just briefly just making  taking

01:19:02.159 --> 01:19:04.056
the point of council holiday. Obviously,

01:19:04.080 --> 01:19:06.456
we want this installation to be safe,

01:19:06.480 --> 01:19:09.480
but  I also believe that what's

01:19:09.520 --> 01:19:12.215
demanded is is a bit  you know,

01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:13.655
there's quite a lot of stuff to do and I

01:19:13.679 --> 01:19:15.896
hope it's not going to preclude  some

01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:18.695
people not to actually  and get a car

01:19:18.719 --> 01:19:21.576
and find a way an easy way to install.

01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:24.536
So hopefully it'll be a smooth process

01:19:24.560 --> 01:19:26.056
to go through it and hopefully things

01:19:26.080 --> 01:19:29.080
can be the red tape can be simplified in

01:19:29.120 --> 01:19:31.016
the future. But I think it's a right

01:19:31.040 --> 01:19:33.576
it's a step in the right direction to 

01:19:33.600 --> 01:19:36.600
 in terms of climate change and

01:19:36.719 --> 01:19:39.016
changing our fleet of vehicle to

01:19:39.040 --> 01:19:41.496
electric.

01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:43.816
Thank you councelor Timman as second

01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:46.456
councelor Consol speak to the motion.

01:19:46.480 --> 01:19:48.376
Thank you. um I drove an electric

01:19:48.400 --> 01:19:49.816
vehicle for the first time yesterday and

01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:51.496
I was really impressed and I think that

01:19:51.520 --> 01:19:53.256
there will be more people with all this

01:19:53.280 --> 01:19:54.296
stuff going on in the world that are

01:19:54.320 --> 01:19:55.736
going to start opening their eyes to

01:19:55.760 --> 01:19:58.056
going well this is actually um something

01:19:58.080 --> 01:20:00.456
I need to look into too. So it's not

01:20:00.480 --> 01:20:01.976
when you plan for drought when you're in

01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:03.816
drought. We need to plan for these

01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:04.936
things because we don't know what the

01:20:04.960 --> 01:20:07.496
future holds but also it's just there's

01:20:07.520 --> 01:20:09.416
an people are wanting these and we need

01:20:09.440 --> 01:20:11.016
to provide the infrastructure. We've

01:20:11.040 --> 01:20:13.175
come a long way. Thank you so much for

01:20:13.199 --> 01:20:15.896
getting these other devices on the um as

01:20:15.920 --> 01:20:18.056
well as the ones we've already done.

01:20:18.080 --> 01:20:19.175
It's great that we have this

01:20:19.199 --> 01:20:22.199
infrastructure growing. Um as my

01:20:23.120 --> 01:20:25.736
questions u alluded to, I think that we

01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:27.016
should be a little bit more open about

01:20:27.040 --> 01:20:29.576
this that people should be able to start

01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:32.536
an app and charge. I don't think it's

01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:34.936
that big of a deal to say if like the

01:20:34.960 --> 01:20:36.856
shared economy about this. You know, if

01:20:36.880 --> 01:20:39.096
you got the power at your roof, why not

01:20:39.120 --> 01:20:41.576
share it? um things like that we

01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:43.096
shouldn't restrict. I do think some of

01:20:43.120 --> 01:20:45.655
the permitting seems really over the top

01:20:45.679 --> 01:20:46.936
especially with the heritage properties

01:20:46.960 --> 01:20:48.536
because there's people who have

01:20:48.560 --> 01:20:49.896
properties they've lived in for a very

01:20:49.920 --> 01:20:52.135
long time that maybe have a garage

01:20:52.159 --> 01:20:53.736
that's very small that doesn't actually

01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:56.536
fit a normal modern car and they can't

01:20:56.560 --> 01:20:58.056
because then they're deemed to have off-

01:20:58.080 --> 01:21:00.296
streetet parking. They can't have these

01:21:00.320 --> 01:21:03.320
kind of um  infrastructure. So I think

01:21:04.000 --> 01:21:05.976
we need to always be resilient and

01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:07.976
learning from our community, hearing the

01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:11.000
feedback about how we can help  them

01:21:12.719 --> 01:21:15.336
live in a great area that we do and with

01:21:15.360 --> 01:21:17.096
the limitations we have. So I appreciate

01:21:17.120 --> 01:21:19.496
the officer's time on that to take in

01:21:19.520 --> 01:21:20.936
some of the community  community

01:21:20.960 --> 01:21:23.896
feedback across the time and update this

01:21:23.920 --> 01:21:26.296
guidelines. Thank you.

01:21:26.320 --> 01:21:28.376
Thank you councelor Consello. Any other

01:21:28.400 --> 01:21:31.400
speakers to the item before us?

01:21:33.760 --> 01:21:35.736
Silence is golden. So we'll go back to

01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:38.616
the mover to close. The mover does not

01:21:38.640 --> 01:21:40.456
wish to close and therefore we shall be

01:21:40.480 --> 01:21:42.695
putting the motion.

01:21:42.719 --> 01:21:45.416
All those in favor, show of hands. That

01:21:45.440 --> 01:21:48.440
is carried unanimously.

01:21:48.800 --> 01:21:51.800
Brings us now to item 9.2, the draft

01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:54.056
foreshore management plan for public

01:21:54.080 --> 01:21:56.296
consultation.

01:21:56.320 --> 01:21:59.320
We do have an officer  alternate here.

01:22:00.639 --> 01:22:03.639
So I believe Kylie Bennett, our general

01:22:04.239 --> 01:22:05.816
manager of community well-being, will be

01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:08.840
reading out the variation

01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:12.376
for

01:22:12.400 --> 01:22:15.400
item 3.4 of that recommendation

01:22:22.000 --> 01:22:25.000
through Dana Pritchard. Welcome

01:22:41.040 --> 01:22:44.040
 through you Mayor. Um the alternate

01:22:44.320 --> 01:22:46.615
recommendation is  that council

01:22:46.639 --> 01:22:48.936
endorses the removal of the action to

01:22:48.960 --> 01:22:51.416
develop the foreshore character study

01:22:51.440 --> 01:22:53.576
from the draft forshore management plan

01:22:53.600 --> 01:22:55.976
prior to engagement noting that the

01:22:56.000 --> 01:22:58.056
intended design standards will instead

01:22:58.080 --> 01:23:00.215
be incorporated into the service levels

01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:03.175
within the council's asset management

01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:05.976
plan.

01:23:06.000 --> 01:23:08.536
Thank you very much. There's  that

01:23:08.560 --> 01:23:10.135
recommendation before us. Are there any

01:23:10.159 --> 01:23:12.536
questions for

01:23:12.560 --> 01:23:14.615
officers on this item? Yes, councelor

01:23:14.639 --> 01:23:17.639
Buckingham.

01:23:17.679 --> 01:23:20.296
Um, my question

01:23:20.320 --> 01:23:23.320
notes that many of the the goals in the

01:23:23.840 --> 01:23:26.840
plan rely heavily on actions of other

01:23:29.760 --> 01:23:32.536
councils and state government. Do you

01:23:32.560 --> 01:23:35.560
think we have embedded partnerships,

01:23:36.159 --> 01:23:39.159
ways of working with other councils

01:23:40.639 --> 01:23:43.639
into the plan? And um

01:23:45.280 --> 01:23:48.280
I'm just I've also got the Ster Creek

01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:51.256
um plan that we

01:23:51.280 --> 01:23:54.215
approved last meeting.

01:23:54.239 --> 01:23:57.016
Do you think we've got the tracks to

01:23:57.040 --> 01:23:59.496
build partnerships like that to to

01:23:59.520 --> 01:24:01.496
effectively implement and achieve the

01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:04.520
goals of the plan?

01:24:05.920 --> 01:24:08.920
 through you Mayor. Um we have the

01:24:09.120 --> 01:24:11.175
intention is to work directly with a

01:24:11.199 --> 01:24:14.056
number of different um councils,

01:24:14.080 --> 01:24:16.056
agencies, working groups, state

01:24:16.080 --> 01:24:19.080
government. Um we already have  really

01:24:19.120 --> 01:24:20.936
good relationships with many of them.

01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:23.960
We've got an um and

01:24:24.320 --> 01:24:24.456
the

01:24:24.480 --> 01:24:26.776
ABM

01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:28.296
state agencies reference group.

01:24:28.320 --> 01:24:31.320
We have um an ABM um the state agency

01:24:31.840 --> 01:24:34.376
reference group that um that we're part

01:24:34.400 --> 01:24:36.215
of and that we've been a very active

01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:39.016
member of for a very long time. Um but

01:24:39.040 --> 01:24:40.695
we can look at the plan to make sure

01:24:40.719 --> 01:24:42.936
that it's it's explicit in there and

01:24:42.960 --> 01:24:45.816
very clear that we will be um building

01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:47.736
and working together with those um

01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:49.655
partners.

01:24:49.679 --> 01:24:51.736
Thank you. Further questions. Councelor

01:24:51.760 --> 01:24:53.816
Holidayiday.

01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:56.215


01:24:56.239 --> 01:24:59.239
thank you. Um first off to the officers

01:24:59.600 --> 01:25:02.215
who've been working on this um and

01:25:02.239 --> 01:25:04.135
preparing this

01:25:04.159 --> 01:25:07.159
just you know Isaac kind of asked some

01:25:07.440 --> 01:25:09.576
questions earlier about about our

01:25:09.600 --> 01:25:11.816
foreshore and the foreshore management

01:25:11.840 --> 01:25:14.840
plan. Um, you know, we have the the

01:25:15.520 --> 01:25:18.456
flood modeling coming from,

01:25:18.480 --> 01:25:21.096
you know, , Melbourne Water. We have

01:25:21.120 --> 01:25:23.416
this forshore management plan. We have

01:25:23.440 --> 01:25:26.440
the coastal adaptation plan. We have all

01:25:27.679 --> 01:25:30.679
these different aspects um, you know,

01:25:31.199 --> 01:25:34.199
and plans and coastal hazard work all

01:25:35.120 --> 01:25:38.120
kind of coming together um, affecting

01:25:38.320 --> 01:25:41.320
our um, our management of the foreshore.

01:25:41.760 --> 01:25:44.215
What's the

01:25:44.239 --> 01:25:46.135
and I don't know if this is a an

01:25:46.159 --> 01:25:48.296
answerable question, but what's the end

01:25:48.320 --> 01:25:51.320
result here? You know, will we have are

01:25:51.520 --> 01:25:54.056
these all going to be disperate plans

01:25:54.080 --> 01:25:57.080
and strategies that form a kind of a

01:25:57.120 --> 01:26:00.120
patchwork of how we manage and um

01:26:03.280 --> 01:26:04.376
you know manage our coastal

01:26:04.400 --> 01:26:06.456
infrastructure over the next 50 years?

01:26:06.480 --> 01:26:09.175
or are they kind of coming together into

01:26:09.199 --> 01:26:11.096
some kind of coordinated and

01:26:11.120 --> 01:26:14.120
consolidated um you know manage not

01:26:14.320 --> 01:26:17.320
management plan but some other piece

01:26:18.639 --> 01:26:21.496
 through you may um they're different

01:26:21.520 --> 01:26:23.655
pieces of work but the idea is that they

01:26:23.679 --> 01:26:25.736
absolutely speak together. Um the

01:26:25.760 --> 01:26:27.576
foreshore management plan is about how

01:26:27.600 --> 01:26:29.736
we manage what is on the foreshore at

01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:32.760
the moment. Um all our assets and um

01:26:33.120 --> 01:26:35.816
respond to what is there. The coastal

01:26:35.840 --> 01:26:38.840
adaptation plan um will be influenced by

01:26:40.320 --> 01:26:42.456
the Melbourne water information that's

01:26:42.480 --> 01:26:44.296
coming out. We have been waiting for

01:26:44.320 --> 01:26:47.016
that information to be released to be

01:26:47.040 --> 01:26:49.496
able to go the next step with that plan.

01:26:49.520 --> 01:26:51.736
Um otherwise they won't speak to each

01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:54.760
other. So  the idea is that the

01:26:55.199 --> 01:26:57.816
coastal adaptation plan will give us the

01:26:57.840 --> 01:27:00.840
direction for the next  20 30 years um

01:27:03.120 --> 01:27:06.120
as to  how we manage the coast and

01:27:06.880 --> 01:27:09.880
coastal adaptation.

01:27:11.360 --> 01:27:14.360
Further question council three minute so

01:27:14.960 --> 01:27:17.960
I I envisage that these different pieces

01:27:19.040 --> 01:27:20.856
of work and they're all very complex and

01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:22.215
so they probably need to be treated as

01:27:22.239 --> 01:27:23.416
different in the first instance and

01:27:23.440 --> 01:27:25.736
they're on different time time

01:27:25.760 --> 01:27:28.135
parameters that they will coales and

01:27:28.159 --> 01:27:30.376
it'll inform the the next iteration of

01:27:30.400 --> 01:27:32.856
the foreshore management plan our asset

01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:34.536
management plans and we'll have to

01:27:34.560 --> 01:27:35.736
consider you know do we need something

01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:37.976
more in to integrate these things but at

01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:40.856
the moment um you know they're on

01:27:40.880 --> 01:27:42.536
different timetables, they've got

01:27:42.560 --> 01:27:45.560
specific focus areas and we're going

01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:47.336
ahead with doing the best we can with

01:27:47.360 --> 01:27:50.360
what we've got.

01:27:50.400 --> 01:27:52.776
Councelor Holidayiday, further question.

01:27:52.800 --> 01:27:54.936
Um yeah, and and this just following up

01:27:54.960 --> 01:27:57.576
again on Isaac's um comments earlier and

01:27:57.600 --> 01:27:59.416
questions earlier, you know, he covered

01:27:59.440 --> 01:28:01.016
things like the water quality coming

01:28:01.040 --> 01:28:03.016
into the bay and the algo blooms that

01:28:03.040 --> 01:28:06.040
we've seen in South Australia. um sea

01:28:06.159 --> 01:28:09.159
level rise and the the need at some

01:28:09.920 --> 01:28:12.376
stage for flood mitigation like flood

01:28:12.400 --> 01:28:15.400
gates and you know other other um kind

01:28:15.679 --> 01:28:18.679
of infrastructure to manage that. Um

01:28:19.199 --> 01:28:22.199
flood walls on the canals to prevent

01:28:22.639 --> 01:28:25.639
topping over into the local streets. um

01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:29.880
and also upstream flood kind of

01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:33.496
mitigation efforts that we might see

01:28:33.520 --> 01:28:36.520
through the Ster Canal work.

01:28:37.040 --> 01:28:39.655
Am I right in understanding that that

01:28:39.679 --> 01:28:42.679
work will come more in the  next phase

01:28:44.159 --> 01:28:46.215
which is the coastal adaptation plan?

01:28:46.239 --> 01:28:49.239
Those kinds of um responses to what

01:28:50.159 --> 01:28:51.576
we're seeing here

01:28:51.600 --> 01:28:53.816
 through you may that that is correct.

01:28:53.840 --> 01:28:56.376
The coastal adaptation plan is 

01:28:56.400 --> 01:28:59.400
working towards um solutions and um yeah

01:29:01.360 --> 01:29:04.360
ways to adapt.

01:29:05.040 --> 01:29:08.040
Council of Buckingham.

01:29:08.639 --> 01:29:11.639
A lot of the plan is focused on our

01:29:12.639 --> 01:29:15.639
assets and our built environment

01:29:16.159 --> 01:29:19.159
and I it does mention the biodiversity

01:29:19.199 --> 01:29:22.199
and um preserving the natural the

01:29:22.560 --> 01:29:25.560
vegetation and the natural environment.

01:29:26.400 --> 01:29:28.695
Do we go

01:29:28.719 --> 01:29:30.936
are there options to go a step further

01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:33.175
into and really look at re vegetation

01:29:33.199 --> 01:29:35.416
and renourishment

01:29:35.440 --> 01:29:37.175
um

01:29:37.199 --> 01:29:39.416
to supPort as part of our flood

01:29:39.440 --> 01:29:42.440
mitigation? Or do we have enough actions

01:29:43.199 --> 01:29:46.199
in here to not just protect our built

01:29:46.480 --> 01:29:49.480
assets but also to preserve our natural

01:29:49.679 --> 01:29:52.376
biodiversity and

01:29:52.400 --> 01:29:55.400
the natural environment?

01:29:55.920 --> 01:29:58.920
 through through you Mayor. Um a lot

01:29:59.040 --> 01:30:00.536
of that is picked up through our urban

01:30:00.560 --> 01:30:03.416
forest strategy. Um there's also a

01:30:03.440 --> 01:30:05.976
foreshore and hinterland um management

01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:09.000
plan. Um in the

01:30:09.040 --> 01:30:12.040
in the foresshore management plan um and

01:30:12.400 --> 01:30:14.695
all of those start to speak well do

01:30:14.719 --> 01:30:17.175
speak about how we can make sure that we

01:30:17.199 --> 01:30:20.056
manage the vegetation. We've got lots of

01:30:20.080 --> 01:30:22.615
um native vegetation areas down there,

01:30:22.639 --> 01:30:25.496
some significant dunes. Um and we know

01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:27.496
that  the vegetation along the

01:30:27.520 --> 01:30:30.215
foreshore is is very imPortant to

01:30:30.239 --> 01:30:32.135
maintaining our coastal health and our

01:30:32.159 --> 01:30:35.159
coastal um infrastructure. I mean um

01:30:35.360 --> 01:30:38.360
biodiversity. Y

01:30:39.440 --> 01:30:42.056
any further questions? Councelor Consol.

01:30:42.080 --> 01:30:45.080
Thank you. There's a a figure in the

01:30:45.120 --> 01:30:46.776
draft foreshore management plan that

01:30:46.800 --> 01:30:49.655
talks about crown land being 200 m from

01:30:49.679 --> 01:30:52.679
the high tide hide watermark and then 5

01:30:53.440 --> 01:30:55.416
km inland from the high water mark is

01:30:55.440 --> 01:30:58.440
the marine and coastal environmental um

01:30:59.280 --> 01:31:01.256
it applies when we talk about the

01:31:01.280 --> 01:31:02.776
foreshore what do we what's the distance

01:31:02.800 --> 01:31:05.800
we talk about from the high water line

01:31:08.320 --> 01:31:11.320
 through you may 200 m from the from

01:31:12.080 --> 01:31:14.215
the tideline.

01:31:14.239 --> 01:31:16.135
So when we have places in the fore that

01:31:16.159 --> 01:31:18.215
seem a little bit more than 200, maybe

01:31:18.239 --> 01:31:20.215
they all are, but some areas where it

01:31:20.239 --> 01:31:23.239
just beach extends like Elwood um Elwood

01:31:24.639 --> 01:31:27.416
for sure that's more than 200 m I would

01:31:27.440 --> 01:31:30.296
think  through you may officially it's

01:31:30.320 --> 01:31:32.615
200 m but we would use our discretion as

01:31:32.639 --> 01:31:35.639
to um we wouldn't cut it off just

01:31:35.679 --> 01:31:38.135
because there's a little bit before the

01:31:38.159 --> 01:31:40.695
road. Thank you,

01:31:40.719 --> 01:31:42.776
Councelor J. I saw your hand went up

01:31:42.800 --> 01:31:43.896
before

01:31:43.920 --> 01:31:46.920
um just a small um confirmation.

01:31:47.440 --> 01:31:49.896
Precinct 2, Dana, is Albert Park and

01:31:49.920 --> 01:31:51.976
Middle Park, but South Melbourne doesn't

01:31:52.000 --> 01:31:54.376
have its own precinct. It's included

01:31:54.400 --> 01:31:57.400
within that one. I did see it in the

01:31:58.080 --> 01:31:59.976
body. Um but I thought I'd just clarify

01:32:00.000 --> 01:32:03.000
that. Thank you.

01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:05.016
 through you, Mayor, that's that's

01:32:05.040 --> 01:32:07.016
correct. So South Melbourne's included

01:32:07.040 --> 01:32:08.536
like South Melbourne Beach is included

01:32:08.560 --> 01:32:11.560
in Alberta Park suburb. Y

01:32:14.480 --> 01:32:17.480
you have a tram route to that beach.

01:32:18.880 --> 01:32:21.880
Any other questions? Cat holiday. Um

01:32:22.159 --> 01:32:24.296
we've seen some advocacy from from

01:32:24.320 --> 01:32:27.256
community members around um just picking

01:32:27.280 --> 01:32:28.936
up again on Libbyy's point here that

01:32:28.960 --> 01:32:31.960
that reveation

01:32:32.000 --> 01:32:35.000
of the foresshore area to mitigate um

01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:37.896
you know sea level rise and coastal

01:32:37.920 --> 01:32:40.920
erosion. Um where do we where does that

01:32:41.600 --> 01:32:43.336
sort of thing is that in the adaptation

01:32:43.360 --> 01:32:45.496
plan or does that come in here? Where

01:32:45.520 --> 01:32:48.520
does that um renourishment and

01:32:48.560 --> 01:32:50.695
revitalization of the foreshore come

01:32:50.719 --> 01:32:52.776
into these plans?

01:32:52.800 --> 01:32:55.655
 the  through you may the foreshore

01:32:55.679 --> 01:32:57.816
management plan is a 10-year plan. How

01:32:57.840 --> 01:33:00.840
we use, maintain, manage the coast. Um

01:33:00.960 --> 01:33:03.336
it includes actions in relation to

01:33:03.360 --> 01:33:04.936
advocate to the state government for

01:33:04.960 --> 01:33:07.960
beach nourishment. um um um protection

01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:11.800
of the  or or rebuild of our 

01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:14.215
coastal protective structures like seaw

01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:17.175
walls and rock revetments.  it also

01:33:17.199 --> 01:33:20.056
refers to um the the vegetation

01:33:20.080 --> 01:33:22.456
management plan to manage  and improve

01:33:22.480 --> 01:33:25.480
the vegetation we have currently.  the

01:33:26.320 --> 01:33:28.776
there is an aspects in the in the

01:33:28.800 --> 01:33:31.256
coastal adaptation plan of considering

01:33:31.280 --> 01:33:34.280
future vegetation types and um how our

01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:37.655
how our dunes and our vegetation

01:33:37.679 --> 01:33:39.256
communities will change because of the

01:33:39.280 --> 01:33:42.280
changing climate as well.

01:33:44.400 --> 01:33:47.400
Any further questions?

01:33:50.000 --> 01:33:51.496
Yes, councelor Consol.

01:33:51.520 --> 01:33:54.056
One more about activation. So some um

01:33:54.080 --> 01:33:56.056
obviously it has to be sensitive to its

01:33:56.080 --> 01:33:59.080
location, but does this speak well to

01:33:59.280 --> 01:34:01.655
some of our economic development 

01:34:01.679 --> 01:34:03.576
policies and strategies that we're doing

01:34:03.600 --> 01:34:05.336
across council because it's one of our

01:34:05.360 --> 01:34:07.496
best assets. I was talking actually a

01:34:07.520 --> 01:34:09.175
council office this morning in a meeting

01:34:09.199 --> 01:34:11.816
was saying that tourism Victoria wants

01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:13.655
us to talk about our coast more because

01:34:13.679 --> 01:34:15.256
that's what differentiates us. There's

01:34:15.280 --> 01:34:17.736
lots doing live music but we are that

01:34:17.760 --> 01:34:19.736
inner City beach that has all the drum

01:34:19.760 --> 01:34:22.695
ramps to it. So um what more are we

01:34:22.719 --> 01:34:24.856
doing about making our foreshore stand

01:34:24.880 --> 01:34:27.880
out even more in the broader sense of um

01:34:28.320 --> 01:34:31.320
even tourism too

01:34:32.159 --> 01:34:33.736
through you may there's a number of

01:34:33.760 --> 01:34:36.760
references to about  activation and

01:34:37.040 --> 01:34:40.040
commercialization of the foreshore. Um

01:34:40.639 --> 01:34:43.639
it's it's  so we we're looking to go

01:34:44.400 --> 01:34:47.256
out to the public and um  seek seek

01:34:47.280 --> 01:34:49.896
their feedback.  we'll also be

01:34:49.920 --> 01:34:51.655
contacting all the forshore traders

01:34:51.679 --> 01:34:54.679
directly  and all the community clubs

01:34:54.800 --> 01:34:56.856
and all the on ground environmental

01:34:56.880 --> 01:34:58.936
groups and and seeking their feedback.

01:34:58.960 --> 01:35:00.456
We have a community reference group

01:35:00.480 --> 01:35:03.256
which includes a a trader representative

01:35:03.280 --> 01:35:06.056
 who who've  had an input on the

01:35:06.080 --> 01:35:09.080
development of the for plan actions.

01:35:10.719 --> 01:35:12.056
Yeah, sorry

01:35:12.080 --> 01:35:13.736
that's a very interesting definition of

01:35:13.760 --> 01:35:16.135
one more question. So go K the

01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:17.655
another one. Um, look, it's really

01:35:17.679 --> 01:35:19.016
interesting up in Port Melbourne that we

01:35:19.040 --> 01:35:20.776
have quite a few restaurants that face

01:35:20.800 --> 01:35:22.856
the beach and they don't work. They

01:35:22.880 --> 01:35:24.936
really struggle and so it'd be nice to

01:35:24.960 --> 01:35:26.376
capture in part of this because they

01:35:26.400 --> 01:35:28.615
would be around 200 m from the beach

01:35:28.639 --> 01:35:30.856
that that's actually a really um there's

01:35:30.880 --> 01:35:31.896
there's restaurants that have been

01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:34.615
closed for 10 years and they've got

01:35:34.639 --> 01:35:36.376
everything sitting there right for the

01:35:36.400 --> 01:35:39.400
view. Um, so what we can do about that

01:35:39.840 --> 01:35:41.976
 through you may we can pick up those

01:35:42.000 --> 01:35:45.000
um  businesses through this process.

01:35:47.199 --> 01:35:50.199
 through you may

01:35:50.400 --> 01:35:51.736
while we can engage with those

01:35:51.760 --> 01:35:53.896
businesses I think that's probably

01:35:53.920 --> 01:35:56.615
outside the scope of the foreshore

01:35:56.639 --> 01:35:58.456
management plan in ter in terms of the

01:35:58.480 --> 01:36:01.480
future of those venues um where there is

01:36:03.120 --> 01:36:04.695
further work outside of this that we're

01:36:04.719 --> 01:36:07.719
looking at in terms of um station pier

01:36:08.080 --> 01:36:10.695
and and the waterfront and Brian T might

01:36:10.719 --> 01:36:12.776
be able to talk a little bit to that um

01:36:12.800 --> 01:36:15.655
or we can take it on notice But um I

01:36:15.679 --> 01:36:16.856
just like to highlight what the

01:36:16.880 --> 01:36:19.175
significant investment that we are every

01:36:19.199 --> 01:36:22.199
day making on our foreshore

01:36:23.199 --> 01:36:25.736
um in terms of the way that we clean it

01:36:25.760 --> 01:36:28.760
 invest in it um activate it, promote

01:36:29.679 --> 01:36:32.615
it.  there is also a significant

01:36:32.639 --> 01:36:35.639
capital program um over the past 10

01:36:35.920 --> 01:36:37.976
years and forecast into the next 10

01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:41.000
years. um life saving clubs, the Elwood

01:36:41.360 --> 01:36:43.175
Foreshore,

01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:45.496
um

01:36:45.520 --> 01:36:48.520
 the Pier Road and Bay Trail, the

01:36:50.880 --> 01:36:53.095
um landside works associated with the

01:36:53.119 --> 01:36:56.119
St. Kilda Pier. Um, so we are we do

01:36:57.840 --> 01:36:59.256
obviously recognize the special

01:36:59.280 --> 01:37:01.736
significance of that of that space and

01:37:01.760 --> 01:37:03.336
this plan is about helping us preserve

01:37:03.360 --> 01:37:04.536
it, but there's a range of other

01:37:04.560 --> 01:37:06.215
strategies and plans and things that

01:37:06.239 --> 01:37:08.296
we're doing that are outside the scope

01:37:08.320 --> 01:37:10.936
of this.

01:37:10.960 --> 01:37:12.615
Thank you. Any further questions? Yeah,

01:37:12.639 --> 01:37:15.175
Council Buckingham.

01:37:15.199 --> 01:37:17.576
Some of our heaviest users of our

01:37:17.600 --> 01:37:20.600
foreshore are our four-legged creatures,

01:37:20.639 --> 01:37:23.639
dogs.  in that consultation process,

01:37:24.320 --> 01:37:27.320
will we proactively approach the dog

01:37:27.920 --> 01:37:30.920
users groups and pet owners

01:37:32.320 --> 01:37:34.695
through you Mayor? Um yes, we will do

01:37:34.719 --> 01:37:37.416
that.

01:37:37.440 --> 01:37:39.175
Through you, Mayor. We have just

01:37:39.199 --> 01:37:42.199
finished our dog off leash guidelines.

01:37:42.480 --> 01:37:44.695
Um and we are doing consultation at the

01:37:44.719 --> 01:37:47.719
moment around how we supPort um our dog

01:37:47.920 --> 01:37:50.376
owners  our furry friends.  and

01:37:50.400 --> 01:37:52.135
there's a range of work including that

01:37:52.159 --> 01:37:55.159
we did recently open  a fenced

01:37:56.880 --> 01:37:59.880
off lead dog park on the foreshore at 

01:38:01.040 --> 01:38:03.336
 just down near the marina. Um but we

01:38:03.360 --> 01:38:04.936
will continue to look at and think about

01:38:04.960 --> 01:38:06.135
things and I think some of the things

01:38:06.159 --> 01:38:07.016
we're talking about at the moment and

01:38:07.040 --> 01:38:09.336
through the budget process for instance

01:38:09.360 --> 01:38:11.896
will be around um you know how we make

01:38:11.920 --> 01:38:14.536
our beaches as friendly as possible 

01:38:14.560 --> 01:38:16.615
for all users but including those with

01:38:16.639 --> 01:38:18.615
docks. But um there has been a fairly

01:38:18.639 --> 01:38:21.496
significant body of work already around

01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:23.175
dog off leash areas etc around the

01:38:23.199 --> 01:38:24.615
foreshore and I don't think we'll be

01:38:24.639 --> 01:38:25.976
opening that up again as part of this

01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:27.416
process.

01:38:27.440 --> 01:38:30.135
My two dogs are very appreciative of the

01:38:30.159 --> 01:38:33.159
off leash dog areas for on our beach

01:38:33.360 --> 01:38:34.856
available on our beaches all year round

01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:37.496
in Port Melbourne.

01:38:37.520 --> 01:38:40.520
Further questions. Yes, councelor J.

01:38:42.159 --> 01:38:45.159
Um,

01:38:47.600 --> 01:38:48.376
let me start again.

01:38:48.400 --> 01:38:49.896
We can come back to you if if you'd

01:38:49.920 --> 01:38:50.376
prefer.

01:38:50.400 --> 01:38:51.976
No, there's a question I want to ask,

01:38:52.000 --> 01:38:55.000
but it's not appropriate. So, um, will

01:38:57.520 --> 01:38:58.615
for once

01:38:58.639 --> 01:39:01.639
for once. Imagine um

01:39:03.360 --> 01:39:06.360
will this I mean I'm asking

01:39:07.199 --> 01:39:10.056
we're putting together a disability

01:39:10.080 --> 01:39:13.080
um reference group. Will that be ready

01:39:13.920 --> 01:39:16.456
in time for that reference group to plug

01:39:16.480 --> 01:39:19.480
into this foreshore management plan?

01:39:19.600 --> 01:39:21.976
There has been a call from  the

01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:23.576
community and I know some of our beaches

01:39:23.600 --> 01:39:25.976
already have um disability access and

01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:27.256
they're probably looking at a bit more

01:39:27.280 --> 01:39:29.896
of an extension to Middle Park, Albert

01:39:29.920 --> 01:39:32.920
Park/South Melbourne Beach. Um, so I'm

01:39:33.679 --> 01:39:36.679
sort of wondering if we can also 

01:39:38.159 --> 01:39:41.159
maybe speak to or use a disability lens

01:39:41.280 --> 01:39:44.280
over this management plan to make the

01:39:44.719 --> 01:39:46.776
foreshore accessible for everybody if

01:39:46.800 --> 01:39:49.800
it's not already through you may.

01:39:50.480 --> 01:39:52.456
Unfortunately, the timing of the

01:39:52.480 --> 01:39:55.016
recruitment for the disability advisory

01:39:55.040 --> 01:39:57.095
group and the engagement on this

01:39:57.119 --> 01:40:00.119
strategy won't align on this occasion.

01:40:01.119 --> 01:40:03.175
 but the team have worked with a range

01:40:03.199 --> 01:40:05.655
of staff across the organization and as

01:40:05.679 --> 01:40:07.896
part of the engagement process can

01:40:07.920 --> 01:40:10.536
engage with our team internally if they

01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:13.560
haven't already  done so in terms of

01:40:14.239 --> 01:40:17.239
 inclusion generally um but with a

01:40:17.520 --> 01:40:19.976
particular focus on disability and and

01:40:20.000 --> 01:40:23.000
aging and and accessibility access. 

01:40:23.600 --> 01:40:25.336
certainly once the advisory groups are

01:40:25.360 --> 01:40:27.016
established, there will be an

01:40:27.040 --> 01:40:29.816
opPortunity for them to help inform and

01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:32.056
provide advice on how council goes about

01:40:32.080 --> 01:40:35.080
implementing the plan.

01:40:35.840 --> 01:40:38.135
And through you, Mayor, um team have

01:40:38.159 --> 01:40:39.816
been implementing some access

01:40:39.840 --> 01:40:41.736
improvements with foreshore ramps

01:40:41.760 --> 01:40:43.736
program. I think there's um project

01:40:43.760 --> 01:40:46.056
that's being finished this year. They've

01:40:46.080 --> 01:40:48.056
got an audit of some high priority areas

01:40:48.080 --> 01:40:50.536
that we've been working to. Um we are

01:40:50.560 --> 01:40:52.296
looking as part of the budget process at

01:40:52.320 --> 01:40:54.376
the moment but putting aside some money

01:40:54.400 --> 01:40:56.776
potentially for a further  a more

01:40:56.800 --> 01:40:58.776
recent or up-to-date audit of

01:40:58.800 --> 01:40:59.976
accessibility and that would be an

01:41:00.000 --> 01:41:01.336
opPortune time to start thinking about

01:41:01.360 --> 01:41:02.695
what that means in terms of the future

01:41:02.719 --> 01:41:05.719
and the priorities along the for

01:41:06.400 --> 01:41:09.016
council I did see your hand.

01:41:09.040 --> 01:41:12.040
Thank you Mayor. Um I see that there's

01:41:12.239 --> 01:41:14.776
you know um an implementation budget

01:41:14.800 --> 01:41:17.800
associated with this  this plan. I I

01:41:19.360 --> 01:41:21.816
think I'm thinking of this foreshore

01:41:21.840 --> 01:41:24.840
reveitation thing. Is that is that an

01:41:26.080 --> 01:41:29.016
action out of this plan? I can see you

01:41:29.040 --> 01:41:31.256
know an you opPortunity around for

01:41:31.280 --> 01:41:33.976
reveation. You know, should is that the

01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:35.496
sort of thing that we would expect to be

01:41:35.520 --> 01:41:38.520
done under this plan or is this that is

01:41:38.639 --> 01:41:40.135
that the sort of thing that we would

01:41:40.159 --> 01:41:43.159
have to dedicate additional budget for

01:41:43.600 --> 01:41:46.600
or you know a project you know set up a

01:41:48.080 --> 01:41:50.456
project to deliver that

01:41:50.480 --> 01:41:53.480
 through you Mayor. Um the  the plan

01:41:54.159 --> 01:41:56.776
references the foreshore um hintterland

01:41:56.800 --> 01:41:59.800
vegetation management plan um and that

01:42:00.880 --> 01:42:03.880
is how we um manage the the biodiversity

01:42:04.719 --> 01:42:06.776
and the the um vegetation along the

01:42:06.800 --> 01:42:09.496
foreshore. So that is in there. There is

01:42:09.520 --> 01:42:11.816
money in the new open space contract

01:42:11.840 --> 01:42:14.840
that's just been um  little new that's

01:42:16.159 --> 01:42:19.159
newly been signed um to allocate to

01:42:20.239 --> 01:42:22.296
deliver that project over the next few

01:42:22.320 --> 01:42:23.736
years.

01:42:23.760 --> 01:42:25.256
So yeah through you may that sees an

01:42:25.280 --> 01:42:28.280
uplift on the base level of investment

01:42:28.320 --> 01:42:30.296
um still trying to just quite get to the

01:42:30.320 --> 01:42:31.816
bottom of exactly what that looks like

01:42:31.840 --> 01:42:33.095
and we're doing that as part of the

01:42:33.119 --> 01:42:36.119
contract  transition at the moment. Um

01:42:36.239 --> 01:42:38.695
there may well be a need in the future

01:42:38.719 --> 01:42:41.496
if we want to do more in that space um

01:42:41.520 --> 01:42:43.736
to to make a a business case and come

01:42:43.760 --> 01:42:45.095
back to council around that what that

01:42:45.119 --> 01:42:47.416
would look like but in the meantime we

01:42:47.440 --> 01:42:50.440
have um already budgeted for an uplift

01:42:54.320 --> 01:42:57.320
hazard to ask but any further questions

01:43:00.719 --> 01:43:02.536
no further questions going once going

01:43:02.560 --> 01:43:04.695
twice in which case there is a

01:43:04.719 --> 01:43:05.736
recommendation

01:43:05.760 --> 01:43:07.736
before us.

01:43:07.760 --> 01:43:10.135
After all that enlightening question

01:43:10.159 --> 01:43:11.816
asking, who is going to move this

01:43:11.840 --> 01:43:14.615
motion? Moved. Councelor Consol

01:43:14.639 --> 01:43:16.695
seconded. Councelor Buckingham. Does the

01:43:16.719 --> 01:43:18.856
mover wish to speak?

01:43:18.880 --> 01:43:20.456
Please.

01:43:20.480 --> 01:43:22.056
I spend a lot of time at the beach. I

01:43:22.080 --> 01:43:23.976
love it. It's my happy place in and out

01:43:24.000 --> 01:43:26.056
of the water.  it's one of our best

01:43:26.080 --> 01:43:29.080
assets and  it's amazing how different

01:43:29.920 --> 01:43:32.615
the beach looks every day. The water,

01:43:32.639 --> 01:43:35.175
the sand. There's times that down in

01:43:35.199 --> 01:43:38.199
Sand Ridge, we have like dirt bike jumps

01:43:38.800 --> 01:43:40.456
perpendicular to the beach because the

01:43:40.480 --> 01:43:42.776
waves hit so hard. It just is blows your

01:43:42.800 --> 01:43:44.695
mind that it can even be set up that

01:43:44.719 --> 01:43:46.776
way. But I appreciate all the grooming

01:43:46.800 --> 01:43:49.016
that the council does. It looks

01:43:49.040 --> 01:43:51.016
beautiful when it's come through just

01:43:51.040 --> 01:43:54.040
pristine.  and we have our beach crew,

01:43:54.320 --> 01:43:56.856
the beach patrol who do so many

01:43:56.880 --> 01:43:59.736
volunteer hours to keep  the awful

01:43:59.760 --> 01:44:02.760
plastic and rubbish at bay.

01:44:03.199 --> 01:44:06.199
out of the bay. Um, so but I like that

01:44:07.280 --> 01:44:08.936
this plan is very comprehensive talking

01:44:08.960 --> 01:44:10.296
about the plants and the marine life.

01:44:10.320 --> 01:44:12.135
And I think that Isaac raised some good

01:44:12.159 --> 01:44:14.215
points that our water quality we can't

01:44:14.239 --> 01:44:16.056
take for granted.

01:44:16.080 --> 01:44:18.615
What we have now is wonderful. But 2013,

01:44:18.639 --> 01:44:20.776
I think you said for an algae bloom,

01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:22.695
things like this can just be

01:44:22.719 --> 01:44:25.496
devastating. Um, it would it would just

01:44:25.520 --> 01:44:27.016
be horrendous to see that happen again.

01:44:27.040 --> 01:44:28.376
So I think that every day we need to

01:44:28.400 --> 01:44:30.056
take care to make sure that we're

01:44:30.080 --> 01:44:33.080
looking after our precious bay. There's

01:44:33.360 --> 01:44:35.016
so many stakeholders in that list and

01:44:35.040 --> 01:44:36.695
that's what makes things hard to get

01:44:36.719 --> 01:44:38.856
action in the area. And I appreciate

01:44:38.880 --> 01:44:40.376
that even across departments that we

01:44:40.400 --> 01:44:41.576
really just need to make sure that we

01:44:41.600 --> 01:44:44.456
look at this amazing asset um constantly

01:44:44.480 --> 01:44:46.856
to ensure that we're giving it the best.

01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:49.095
I raised in my questions about um the

01:44:49.119 --> 01:44:52.119
activation and the nearby businesses to

01:44:52.639 --> 01:44:54.776
just ensure that that's  taken into

01:44:54.800 --> 01:44:56.536
consideration too and that we're

01:44:56.560 --> 01:44:59.416
proactive on that because I've lived,

01:44:59.440 --> 01:45:02.135
you know, LA, San Diego, there's so much

01:45:02.159 --> 01:45:04.296
more going on in those areas. Not that

01:45:04.320 --> 01:45:06.296
we want to overdo it, but you know, just

01:45:06.320 --> 01:45:07.416
there's a little bit more that I think

01:45:07.440 --> 01:45:09.976
that we can switch on to um activate our

01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:11.736
beaches. You'll see the volleyball

01:45:11.760 --> 01:45:12.936
players out there. There's a lot of fun

01:45:12.960 --> 01:45:15.960
to be have. Um the

01:45:17.920 --> 01:45:20.135
we've the mats for example that we've

01:45:20.159 --> 01:45:23.159
put out are such a good solution to so

01:45:26.080 --> 01:45:28.056
many people's woes of going to the beach

01:45:28.080 --> 01:45:30.135
as a mom with a pram that's fully loaded

01:45:30.159 --> 01:45:32.456
with all the children all the stuff it

01:45:32.480 --> 01:45:34.056
was hard to get out there and I can

01:45:34.080 --> 01:45:35.576
imagine the same for people with low

01:45:35.600 --> 01:45:38.600
mobility if we can let that the foresaw

01:45:38.960 --> 01:45:41.960
be accessible to all that is such a nice

01:45:42.080 --> 01:45:43.976
improvement in quality of life for so

01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:47.000
for free. Um, and that's the beach is

01:45:47.040 --> 01:45:49.016
free minus the parking in many areas,

01:45:49.040 --> 01:45:50.376
even though I know we don't have paid

01:45:50.400 --> 01:45:52.536
parking up in San Ridge area if you want

01:45:52.560 --> 01:45:54.936
to come down that way. Um, but the

01:45:54.960 --> 01:45:56.695
life-saving clubs, for example, also

01:45:56.719 --> 01:45:59.719
need to probably do a little bit more to

01:45:59.920 --> 01:46:02.920
open up in the not um, summer seasons to

01:46:04.400 --> 01:46:05.736
interact with our community

01:46:05.760 --> 01:46:07.016
infrastructure plan that we've already

01:46:07.040 --> 01:46:10.040
spoken out tonight. Um, and we have

01:46:11.440 --> 01:46:14.440
great wellness  growing in our area up

01:46:14.560 --> 01:46:15.976
in Port Melbourne. We have a wellness

01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:17.496
day coming up that's right there on the

01:46:17.520 --> 01:46:19.336
foreshore at the yacht club. So, we see

01:46:19.360 --> 01:46:21.016
more people turning to the beach and how

01:46:21.040 --> 01:46:23.175
much they value it and the amount of

01:46:23.199 --> 01:46:25.655
open water swimmers every day. More and

01:46:25.679 --> 01:46:27.816
more and more and more coming. We

01:46:27.840 --> 01:46:29.095
probably will get dog showers before we

01:46:29.119 --> 01:46:30.536
get warm showers, but I think that we

01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:32.536
need to acknowledge this user group is

01:46:32.560 --> 01:46:34.615
growing. And it's not just the elite

01:46:34.639 --> 01:46:36.776
swimmers. is people just coming down for

01:46:36.800 --> 01:46:38.296
peace of mind and quiet in that bay

01:46:38.320 --> 01:46:39.896
because it's the most magical place and

01:46:39.920 --> 01:46:42.056
I really hope you all can find some joy

01:46:42.080 --> 01:46:44.215
in it like I do. Thank you.

01:46:44.239 --> 01:46:46.695
Thank you. Does the second wish to

01:46:46.719 --> 01:46:49.655
speak?

01:46:49.679 --> 01:46:51.655
I'm really pleased to be able to second

01:46:51.679 --> 01:46:54.679
this um recommendation and to see that

01:46:55.520 --> 01:46:57.576
this plan has come to this next step and

01:46:57.600 --> 01:46:58.856
I'd like to acknowledge the amount of

01:46:58.880 --> 01:47:01.336
work that's gone in to get us here and

01:47:01.360 --> 01:47:03.336
the amount of work that um the council

01:47:03.360 --> 01:47:06.360
does for our foreshore. um 11 km

01:47:08.239 --> 01:47:10.456
kilometers of foreshore is a big

01:47:10.480 --> 01:47:12.695
responsibility and I was talking to

01:47:12.719 --> 01:47:14.215
someone from interstate the other day

01:47:14.239 --> 01:47:15.736
and they was like where's Port Phillip

01:47:15.760 --> 01:47:17.816
and I said you know we we stretch along

01:47:17.840 --> 01:47:20.840
the bay and even for people like my ward

01:47:21.360 --> 01:47:23.736
doesn't directly abut to the bay but it

01:47:23.760 --> 01:47:26.760
is so definitive of who we are and um

01:47:27.600 --> 01:47:29.416
it's one of the best things about living

01:47:29.440 --> 01:47:31.576
in Port Phillip but it also comes with

01:47:31.600 --> 01:47:34.056
its its challenges and even for a ward

01:47:34.080 --> 01:47:37.080
like mine um the creeks and the river

01:47:37.360 --> 01:47:39.576
systems that run underneath Balaclava,

01:47:39.600 --> 01:47:41.816
they all lead down to that that

01:47:41.840 --> 01:47:44.776
foreshore. And the people um that live

01:47:44.800 --> 01:47:47.800
in my ward, it's open space. It's such

01:47:48.000 --> 01:47:51.000
an imPortant part of our well-being. And

01:47:51.119 --> 01:47:54.119
so this plan is of real significance.

01:47:54.639 --> 01:47:56.776
It's so good when we get it right. When

01:47:56.800 --> 01:47:59.655
there's, you know, a hot heat wave,

01:47:59.679 --> 01:48:01.896
people flock to the beach. We go there

01:48:01.920 --> 01:48:04.920
um to gather, to exercise, um just to um

01:48:06.560 --> 01:48:09.416
enjoy the natural surrounds there. But

01:48:09.440 --> 01:48:11.175
it's also can be really bad when we get

01:48:11.199 --> 01:48:13.336
it wrong. And we know that the flood

01:48:13.360 --> 01:48:16.135
risk for Port Phillip is increasing and

01:48:16.159 --> 01:48:18.056
whatever we can do for our foreshore and

01:48:18.080 --> 01:48:19.816
for that creek system that leads into

01:48:19.840 --> 01:48:22.376
the bay um is going to be crucial for

01:48:22.400 --> 01:48:24.456
the future well-being of the residents

01:48:24.480 --> 01:48:26.135
of Port Phillip.

01:48:26.159 --> 01:48:28.135
Thank you. That was moved by councelor

01:48:28.159 --> 01:48:29.655
Consol, seconded by councelor

01:48:29.679 --> 01:48:31.336
Buckingham. Does any other counselor

01:48:31.360 --> 01:48:34.056
wish to speak?

01:48:34.080 --> 01:48:35.416
I know you want to. Councelor

01:48:35.440 --> 01:48:37.336
Holidayiday, go for it.

01:48:37.360 --> 01:48:40.360
Um, thank you, Alex. , Mayor. Um,

01:48:41.360 --> 01:48:43.976
thanks again, echoing the thanks here

01:48:44.000 --> 01:48:47.000
for the team behind this who've put 

01:48:47.119 --> 01:48:49.496
this plan together. , and also the

01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:50.856
community reference group, the members

01:48:50.880 --> 01:48:52.695
of the community who came out and

01:48:52.719 --> 01:48:55.336
supPorted this work as well. Um, I think

01:48:55.360 --> 01:48:57.816
you know your maybe your experience at

01:48:57.840 --> 01:48:59.896
the beach is a bit different than mine.

01:48:59.920 --> 01:49:02.920
um you know, living up on up landsside

01:49:05.119 --> 01:49:05.416
um

01:49:05.440 --> 01:49:06.296
next to the cemetery

01:49:06.320 --> 01:49:09.320
next to the cemetery. Luckily,  I

01:49:09.440 --> 01:49:11.416
think when I when I think about these

01:49:11.440 --> 01:49:14.440
things, I I get a tight ball in my

01:49:14.639 --> 01:49:17.639
stomach thinking about um you know, the

01:49:19.199 --> 01:49:21.576
coastal hazards and the future of our

01:49:21.600 --> 01:49:24.600
coasts. Um and we as custodians of this

01:49:25.679 --> 01:49:28.456
area um have a great deal of

01:49:28.480 --> 01:49:30.936
responsibility to elevated

01:49:30.960 --> 01:49:32.456
responsibility to how we deal with that.

01:49:32.480 --> 01:49:35.480
You know, we're talking here um again as

01:49:35.520 --> 01:49:38.520
as Isaac alluded to and showed up to a

01:49:38.639 --> 01:49:41.639
fortnight ago, the Ster Creek um plan.

01:49:43.520 --> 01:49:46.520
We have the um you know, the flood the

01:49:47.040 --> 01:49:48.215
flood maps that we're going to be

01:49:48.239 --> 01:49:50.536
getting from Melbourne Water. We have

01:49:50.560 --> 01:49:52.135
this foreshore management plan. Then we

01:49:52.159 --> 01:49:53.576
have a coastal adaptation plan. We've

01:49:53.600 --> 01:49:56.600
got the coastal hazards um studies as

01:49:57.040 --> 01:50:00.040
well. Um and we've got this coastal I

01:50:00.800 --> 01:50:02.856
think it was vegetation and wetlands

01:50:02.880 --> 01:50:05.880
kind of um plan as well. And I I think

01:50:06.320 --> 01:50:09.320
um to me the big picture there is um is

01:50:09.920 --> 01:50:12.536
a

01:50:12.560 --> 01:50:15.560
a lot of  a lot of risks and

01:50:18.080 --> 01:50:20.856
vulnerabilities along our coast almost

01:50:20.880 --> 01:50:23.496
more than any other area through

01:50:23.520 --> 01:50:26.520
flooding through sea level rise through

01:50:27.040 --> 01:50:29.976
um you know coastal erosion through

01:50:30.000 --> 01:50:31.816
saltwater intrusion other things that

01:50:31.840 --> 01:50:34.456
we're talking about. So to me, this is

01:50:34.480 --> 01:50:37.336
just another puzzle piece like it was in

01:50:37.360 --> 01:50:39.336
the other one, but another puzzle piece

01:50:39.360 --> 01:50:42.215
that gets us to a council that is

01:50:42.239 --> 01:50:45.239
properly prepared for these future

01:50:45.760 --> 01:50:48.296
hazards and properly preparing on the

01:50:48.320 --> 01:50:50.936
ground to manage these future hazards.

01:50:50.960 --> 01:50:53.960
Again, um you know, sorry Isaac, I'm

01:50:54.480 --> 01:50:56.376
picking on you here, but you know, the

01:50:56.400 --> 01:50:57.655
illusions to the things he's talking

01:50:57.679 --> 01:50:59.976
about are the things that that worry me

01:51:00.000 --> 01:51:01.736
as well. And that's why, you know, you

01:51:01.760 --> 01:51:03.416
guys are bored about me talking about

01:51:03.440 --> 01:51:05.336
climate risks and climate risk

01:51:05.360 --> 01:51:07.256
assessments, but I think that we have so

01:51:07.280 --> 01:51:08.776
many disperate areas where we have

01:51:08.800 --> 01:51:10.776
climate risks. Bringing them together

01:51:10.800 --> 01:51:13.800
into one um one piece of work um would

01:51:15.280 --> 01:51:17.655
benefit us as a council so that we we

01:51:17.679 --> 01:51:19.496
don't see them all looking in different

01:51:19.520 --> 01:51:21.976
directions. We see them all at once um

01:51:22.000 --> 01:51:23.336
because there are so many. Even our work

01:51:23.360 --> 01:51:25.736
on the on the urban forest speaks to the

01:51:25.760 --> 01:51:28.056
same risks. So, I'm super happy with

01:51:28.080 --> 01:51:30.695
this work. It's another vital step. Um

01:51:30.719 --> 01:51:32.215
there's much more to go to bring this

01:51:32.239 --> 01:51:34.615
all together into a co a co coherent

01:51:34.639 --> 01:51:37.336
plan for us to manage our coastal  our

01:51:37.360 --> 01:51:39.256
coast into the future. Um so well done

01:51:39.280 --> 01:51:41.016
everyone involved in this.

01:51:41.040 --> 01:51:43.095
Right down to the second council. Well

01:51:43.119 --> 01:51:45.496
done councelor Holidayiday. Any other

01:51:45.520 --> 01:51:48.520
counselors wish to speak?

01:51:49.760 --> 01:51:52.760
Councelor Tom

01:51:52.800 --> 01:51:54.215
3 minutes.

01:51:54.239 --> 01:51:57.239
I will not speak for three minutes. Um

01:51:57.520 --> 01:51:59.496
this is very complex you know we might

01:51:59.520 --> 01:52:02.520
have 11 kilometers of beach and for sure

01:52:03.360 --> 01:52:05.336
but there is so much happening you know

01:52:05.360 --> 01:52:08.360
from um you know obviously just just

01:52:09.520 --> 01:52:11.655
people who would just use the beach but

01:52:11.679 --> 01:52:14.056
then we've got all the other things with

01:52:14.080 --> 01:52:17.080
the businesses the entertainment area um

01:52:17.599 --> 01:52:20.456
the penguins you know there is a lot of

01:52:20.480 --> 01:52:22.536
stuff happening and it is complex

01:52:22.560 --> 01:52:25.560
especially you know Sila being the the

01:52:25.760 --> 01:52:28.760
the most visited beach in  you know

01:52:29.360 --> 01:52:31.095
within the City of Melbourne or

01:52:31.119 --> 01:52:34.056
Victoria. Um so and we've got the

01:52:34.080 --> 01:52:36.056
businesses and every a lot of people

01:52:36.080 --> 01:52:38.776
depend to to the success and then we've

01:52:38.800 --> 01:52:41.175
got all the activities from not for

01:52:41.199 --> 01:52:44.199
marathon to other things. Um so um this

01:52:45.360 --> 01:52:48.360
is comprehensive work and  and apart

01:52:49.440 --> 01:52:52.440
from looking at the future and and the

01:52:52.639 --> 01:52:54.776
foreshore might be different in a few

01:52:54.800 --> 01:52:57.800
years time  so I think it's I I you

01:52:59.199 --> 01:53:02.199
know um it is an interesting piece of

01:53:02.239 --> 01:53:04.856
work and hopefully there'll be interest

01:53:04.880 --> 01:53:07.575
from people about what we do so we can

01:53:07.599 --> 01:53:09.416
do it better.

01:53:09.440 --> 01:53:11.496
Thank you, councelor Timman. And yes,

01:53:11.520 --> 01:53:14.056
councelor Jay, did you wish to speak?

01:53:14.080 --> 01:53:17.080
You look like you wanted to.

01:53:17.280 --> 01:53:19.736
Okay. , any other councilors wish to

01:53:19.760 --> 01:53:22.376
speak to this item?

01:53:22.400 --> 01:53:25.016
In which case, , does the mover wish

01:53:25.040 --> 01:53:26.856
to close?

01:53:26.880 --> 01:53:28.776
There is a motion before us. Show of

01:53:28.800 --> 01:53:31.800
hands in terms of that motion is now

01:53:32.239 --> 01:53:35.239
being carried unanimously. Well done.

01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:38.520
And after that marathon  question and

01:53:38.639 --> 01:53:40.296
discussion, let's have a 10-minute

01:53:40.320 --> 01:53:43.320
break. We'll come back at 8:35 p.m.

01:53:47.760 --> 01:53:50.760
So, we are going to continue on to our

01:53:51.119 --> 01:53:54.119
next item on the agenda, which is item

01:53:55.360 --> 01:53:57.896
10.1, collaborative procurement to new

01:53:57.920 --> 01:54:00.920
ebike and e scooter agreements.

01:54:02.480 --> 01:54:05.480
Do we have questions for the officers?

01:54:07.599 --> 01:54:09.095
Councelor Holidayiday, we'll begin with

01:54:09.119 --> 01:54:11.575
you.

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, thank you, Mayor. We had some

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questions early  earlier which

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um were good questions about how this

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policy works around our

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responsibilities. I might start with the

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first one here. What what is our

01:54:26.960 --> 01:54:29.960
liability for injuries caused by people

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using these mobility devices andor does

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that liability rest with the um the

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operators of these scheme scheme?

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through you, Mayor. Um, we have a

01:54:45.280 --> 01:54:46.856
requirement with our current agreements

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and it will be mandated through the

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state government  pre-qualifications

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that our operators of shared e- scooters

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hold above normal insurance

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requirements. So, they they actually

01:54:59.840 --> 01:55:02.840
currently have third party um no fault.

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They have public liability and personal

01:55:05.280 --> 01:55:08.280
liability insurance um which is to the

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tune of over $20 million I believe.

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Just following up on that, right? You

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know, I think there was there was an

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implication there that we're off out

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there doing stuff that, you know, is at

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the boundaries, right? But I just to

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clarify, is this being done under the

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umbrella of that state government 

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kind of regulatory framework for these

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devices?

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So in relation to through you may

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through in relation to the insurance

01:55:42.960 --> 01:55:45.960
side of things it or over overall um

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we've the trial has now finished but our

01:55:49.840 --> 01:55:52.840
agreements will will be written to

01:55:54.400 --> 01:55:57.336
mitigate risk to council  and but to

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ensure that our community covered where

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there are any incidents

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through you may if I could just add to

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that I think part of the response too is

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there is now state legis legislation in

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place. That state legislation does

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provide  a capaCity for council to

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enter into this agreements. But that

01:56:16.159 --> 01:56:18.456
legislation also provides quite a

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prescriptive list of requirements that

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need to be complied with by the um ebike

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and the ecooter providers. So just to

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clarify here, we're not doing this on

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our own. We're doing this under the

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state the enablement or whatever of the

01:56:32.159 --> 01:56:34.615
state government legislation that

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controls all of these roll out of

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e-mobility

01:56:38.480 --> 01:56:40.776
rental schemes across Victoria.

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Yeah. Yes, that's right.

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Thank you,

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Deputy Mayor Mers. Over to you.

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Thank you.  my question follow on from

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councelor Holidayiday's question and 

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sort of a hypothetical situation. 

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someone walking down the footpath is hit

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by a  an e scooter which is unless I'm

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mistaken unidentifiable except for a

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color.  the person riding the e

01:57:10.000 --> 01:57:11.575
scooter decides that they don't want to

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get involved in an injured person lying

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on the footpath and disappears.

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In terms of liability, where are we

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then? The person has really no claim on

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anything or anyone.

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Thanks through you, Mayor. Um, it was a

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requirement at the beginning of the ES

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scooter trial that all devices have an

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ID number on them. If we are able to

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identify and this is currently in place

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the location and time of an incident we

01:57:42.719 --> 01:57:45.416
the operators will be able to identify

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who the rider is at that point in time.

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So um the other part is they are not

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legally able to operate on the footpath.

01:57:55.440 --> 01:57:58.440
 so

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so could I follow up?

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You certainly can Deputy Mayor.  just

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to be clear for me the  number you

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refer to when you say it's identifiable

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do you mean electronically or it is

01:58:12.080 --> 01:58:15.080
physically you can see a number on the

01:58:15.520 --> 01:58:16.856
item itself?

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Yes through you may there was an ID

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number like a registration number on the

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back of all devices and we would be

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considering how that that plays out with

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any new contract.

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Thank you. Thank you. Further questions

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councelor Timman.

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So I I just want to follow up on on this

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question. So um assume that if um let's

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say there's an accident on FRA street 

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and  we'll be able to  get the

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number of the vehicle that is part of

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the accident. And

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I don't know, I've never used one of

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those, but I understand that people have

01:58:59.760 --> 01:59:01.976
to have a phone and a QR code. So we

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should be able to  find out who

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actually is the driver of the vehicle.

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And in this case if there is  like an

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injury someone is severely disabled are

01:59:13.599 --> 01:59:16.599
they um can there be any recourse

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against  the driver because the driver

01:59:19.840 --> 01:59:21.496
should be able you know hopefully the

01:59:21.520 --> 01:59:24.520
company can identify the person who is

01:59:24.960 --> 01:59:27.896
at fault or who is the you know was

01:59:27.920 --> 01:59:29.816
driving the vehicle.

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Yes. through you Mayor. That's correct.

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The operators are able to identify the

01:59:33.679 --> 01:59:35.496
rider. They are the holders of the the

01:59:35.520 --> 01:59:37.816
information of their users. Um they have

01:59:37.840 --> 01:59:40.376
a disciplinary process in place which we

01:59:40.400 --> 01:59:42.215
um required to be implemented at the

01:59:42.239 --> 01:59:45.239
beginning of the current trials and they

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can um they will also pass information

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on to Victoria Police if requested with

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the information if if Victoria Police

01:59:53.920 --> 01:59:56.856
make a request of them.

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Thank you. Did you have a follow-up

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question councelor Tomman or

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Yes. So just first of all this what

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we're doing here today it's only

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concerns the ebags and the e scooters

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that are rented out through this

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company. So it doesn't so if  someone

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has got a private  his scooter you

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know this doesn't cover um and

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potentially you know it might be

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difficult to identify  whoever is

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involved in an accident um because you

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know those the other es scooters don't

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have any numbers and registration isn't

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it

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through you may that that's correct

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private e scooters are private without

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registration and I I just note in the

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the state um government legislation the

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that is out that they have to the um e

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scooter operators need to have a a an

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identification number that's clearly

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visible from at least 5 mters away and

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that should be fixed to the device so

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they do have some standards within that

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um those legis

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and just another question so I actually

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 went to a demonstration recently on

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street and um they're showing the latest

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scooters where u basically if someone

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drives the scooter on a footpass, it can

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be identified and the the speed slows

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down and eventually the scooter stops

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and there are other features and I

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understand it's sort of world first

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technology stuff that they're doing

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here. So is that  correct? And also um

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are all scooters or e scooters

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um required to have this level of

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technology

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um so they can be used or or is they've

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got have they got a a timeline for this

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the east scooters to be you know to be

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upgraded etc etc. So do we know more

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about that? Because obviously that  

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you know I understand that if 

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eventually the the driver is does

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illegal stuff eventually he will be

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blocked using the scooter and they

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registration will be cancelled. So when

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they want to log in they can't. M

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through you Mayor. Um you are correct

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that there we are  we have some of the

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toughest regulations in the world on e-

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scooters and some of the the world first

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technology. Um some of our some e-

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scooter providers can do all of what you

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have just described. Um we would be

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looking for bestin market technology of

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any market approach. We've um we've been

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in trial on e- scooters since 2022. Um

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and the reason to go to procurement is

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to ensure that we can get  the best

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technology. We are aware it is out

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there. It is mandatory for all escooters

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under the state government legislation

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that are in vehicle  shared vehicle

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schemes to have footpath detection

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technology. Um we would push to see how

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much further we can take that technology

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as it progresses.

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All right, one more.

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Um how many at the moment? How many 

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or which cities in Melbourne allow cuz

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obviously some don't allow east cooers

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anymore. So which are the cities in

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Melbourne that allow  the use of

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escooters you know or rental

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through you may currently City of Port

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Phillip is the leader in this field with

02:03:16.880 --> 02:03:19.095
a trial in Daraban just recently

02:03:19.119 --> 02:03:20.695
commencing

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with shared e- scooters and ebikes.

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Councelor Holidayiday had been waiting

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for that question. And it's over to you,

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Councelor Holidayiday.

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Thank you. Um, just a random question

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here. If you know when an escooter is

02:03:32.560 --> 02:03:35.560
parked on a on a footpath and someone

02:03:35.920 --> 02:03:38.376
trips on it, is that still a liability

02:03:38.400 --> 02:03:41.256
for the escooter company?

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You know, are they liable or is the

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person liable for tripping over a hazard

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that they should have avoided

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through you Mayor? Um it would be

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dependent on the circumstances but our

02:03:53.679 --> 02:03:56.456
push would be the operators to take to

02:03:56.480 --> 02:03:59.480
take responsibility for the devices. Um

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we are rolling out parking bays across

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Port Phillip and that would and that is

02:04:04.639 --> 02:04:06.615
designated parking. So we would we're

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putting them in places where the

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footpath is wide enough for them to be

02:04:09.760 --> 02:04:11.655
and that is a clear indication that this

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is a space they should be in.

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Yes. Councelor Holidayiday.

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Yeah. And you know I think um on the the

02:04:20.400 --> 02:04:23.400
parking front is a is a large concern

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here for the community with you know and

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I think all of us have experienced with

02:04:27.920 --> 02:04:30.920
a an escooter or a bike parked just left

02:04:32.320 --> 02:04:35.016
in the middle of a foot path path. Where

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where do we stand with that kind of geo

02:04:36.960 --> 02:04:39.336
fencing? Um what is the kind of

02:04:39.360 --> 02:04:41.816
capability of these

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devices and their systems? Can we um geo

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fence off foot paths and so that these

02:04:49.440 --> 02:04:51.336
things are parked on nature strips or in

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designated bays? Um and where do we

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stand with  with there was a VCAT

02:04:57.440 --> 02:05:00.440
ruling a little while ago around um you

02:05:01.520 --> 02:05:04.456
know accessibility and blocking of 

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footpaths by these devices. Um I'm not

02:05:07.119 --> 02:05:08.536
sure if the ruling came out but there

02:05:08.560 --> 02:05:11.560
was a VCAT kind of case about this. So

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two different things there. What's the

02:05:13.520 --> 02:05:15.175
capability of the systems and what's our

02:05:15.199 --> 02:05:17.016
kind of obligation to keep our foot

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paths un unobscured obstructed word

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through you Mayor um we the the approach

02:05:24.880 --> 02:05:26.536
to market would ensure that we are

02:05:26.560 --> 02:05:29.016
getting best in market that is available

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at the moment so we want to see whether

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there is better technology than we

02:05:32.719 --> 02:05:35.719
currently have geo fencing does already

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exist on these devices for parking we

02:05:39.280 --> 02:05:41.896
are we are putting parking pins in so

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digital parking parking zones as well as

02:05:43.760 --> 02:05:46.536
the um the marked and designated bays.

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We have been triing parking beacons from

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one of our operators as well. Um the

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ability to go to market and see if there

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is something new or something that will

02:05:57.440 --> 02:06:00.440
offer present a different offering to us

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um is what we're looking for in this um

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this arrangement. The second part, the

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VCAT. Um, we to the best of offic's

02:06:11.760 --> 02:06:13.416
knowledge, there has been no final

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ruling in the VCAT case. Um, and that

02:06:16.159 --> 02:06:18.135
was the last time we have seen anything

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in a rePort was in December 2025.

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Councelor Holidayiday, sorry, councelor

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Hardy, I see you there on the screen

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with the question.

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You may wish to unmute yourself,

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councelor Hardy.

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you're stealing my thunder and

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interrupting me. Um, Mr. Mayor and

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others, it's obvious to me that the the

02:06:46.639 --> 02:06:48.856
operator to the license operators don't

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know the age of the hirers. Is there any

02:06:52.480 --> 02:06:55.480
min regulation by government to um to

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actually sort of put a regulation on the

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minimum age of a rider or a hirer?

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So through you may there is a minimum

02:07:08.880 --> 02:07:11.880
age um for riding an escooter um or an

02:07:12.639 --> 02:07:15.095
ebike in Victoria and that is 16 years

02:07:15.119 --> 02:07:18.119
of age.  the ability and the the the

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verification methodology is something

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that we would be exploring again because

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um it was developed in 2022 for e-

02:07:30.000 --> 02:07:31.736
scooters and had changed throughout the

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period of the trial from 18 to 16.

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Any further questions? Councelor Hardy,

02:07:45.280 --> 02:07:47.256
I'm going to assume that doesn't know.

02:07:47.280 --> 02:07:49.496
Thank you, Councelor Hardy.

02:07:49.520 --> 02:07:50.936
Any further questions from other

02:07:50.960 --> 02:07:53.095
counselors? Council Consolo,

02:07:53.119 --> 02:07:55.896
thank you. Do you know if the um devices

02:07:55.920 --> 02:07:58.296
have a sensor that goes back to the

02:07:58.320 --> 02:08:00.456
companies when they're tipped over and

02:08:00.480 --> 02:08:02.695
just on their sides? Cuz it's quite a

02:08:02.719 --> 02:08:05.719
messy, you know, easy to trip on setup.

02:08:09.440 --> 02:08:11.655
through you may again different devices

02:08:11.679 --> 02:08:14.679
have different technologies on them. Um

02:08:14.880 --> 02:08:17.880
there is some technology on the devices

02:08:18.000 --> 02:08:21.000
but they are continuing to improve. Um

02:08:21.199 --> 02:08:22.776
any approach to market would also

02:08:22.800 --> 02:08:25.175
include a demonstration of the devices

02:08:25.199 --> 02:08:27.976
and that would be one of the  that

02:08:28.000 --> 02:08:29.336
would be one of the things that we would

02:08:29.360 --> 02:08:32.215
be looking at whether that that works.

02:08:32.239 --> 02:08:34.135
Um there's been improvements in the

02:08:34.159 --> 02:08:37.159
stands to help improve. We we do know in

02:08:37.280 --> 02:08:39.575
Port Phillip the wind does play a factor

02:08:39.599 --> 02:08:42.599
as well. Um so that could be a service

02:08:42.880 --> 02:08:44.936
requirement that we can we would be

02:08:44.960 --> 02:08:46.296
looking at the technology side of

02:08:46.320 --> 02:08:46.615
things.

02:08:46.639 --> 02:08:48.615
Wonderful. Thank you.

02:08:48.639 --> 02:08:50.215
Councelor Tamman, you had a further

02:08:50.239 --> 02:08:51.175
question.

02:08:51.199 --> 02:08:53.336
Yes. Just as a follow-up question, I

02:08:53.360 --> 02:08:56.360
know that   in you know the major

02:08:57.520 --> 02:08:59.256
cities in France like Paris for example,

02:08:59.280 --> 02:09:01.416
there is there are the different

02:09:01.440 --> 02:09:04.215
companies employ um people to actually

02:09:04.239 --> 02:09:06.936
collect the e scooters at night and to

02:09:06.960 --> 02:09:08.376
make sure they at the right place and

02:09:08.400 --> 02:09:10.135
stuff. So does that happen here as well?

02:09:10.159 --> 02:09:12.055
So like if there's a scooter outside my

02:09:12.079 --> 02:09:13.496
place which is obviously not I don't

02:09:13.520 --> 02:09:16.055
have a parking bay for can someone will

02:09:16.079 --> 02:09:17.655
that be collected or we just waiting for

02:09:17.679 --> 02:09:20.679
someone else to use it?

02:09:22.480 --> 02:09:24.856
through you, Mayor. We have operational

02:09:24.880 --> 02:09:27.336
requirements for devices not to be left

02:09:27.360 --> 02:09:30.360
in places for a specific time frame. Um

02:09:31.599 --> 02:09:34.599
they do have 24/7 operators um around

02:09:35.440 --> 02:09:37.336
the the whole of the municipalities that

02:09:37.360 --> 02:09:40.296
have bikes and scooters. So um not only

02:09:40.320 --> 02:09:41.816
in Port Phillip, although we are

02:09:41.840 --> 02:09:44.376
fortunate that both  both operators

02:09:44.400 --> 02:09:46.776
currently lo located in the Port um

02:09:46.800 --> 02:09:49.800
Melbourne area.

02:09:51.440 --> 02:09:54.440
Any further questions? Councelor Jay.

02:09:56.400 --> 02:09:59.256
Um, I've got a couple of questions here.

02:09:59.280 --> 02:10:02.280
Um, and some clarification. So,

02:10:05.920 --> 02:10:08.920
I was part of  the trial last June

02:10:09.040 --> 02:10:10.936
where we tested out the new technology

02:10:10.960 --> 02:10:13.416
of the scooters and I was very hopeful

02:10:13.440 --> 02:10:15.655
um understanding how much I love

02:10:15.679 --> 02:10:18.296
scooters but also understanding

02:10:18.320 --> 02:10:21.320
um the concerns in our community. So,

02:10:21.760 --> 02:10:23.736
when we tested them out, there was a

02:10:23.760 --> 02:10:25.736
facility to reduce the speed when you're

02:10:25.760 --> 02:10:27.655
on foot paths as well as a recorded

02:10:27.679 --> 02:10:29.496
message saying footpath riding is

02:10:29.520 --> 02:10:31.896
illegal in Victoria. Now I know

02:10:31.920 --> 02:10:33.496
councelor Tamman's asked a similar

02:10:33.520 --> 02:10:35.016
question. Now I was under the impression

02:10:35.040 --> 02:10:37.976
that that technology existed and we were

02:10:38.000 --> 02:10:41.000
in fact using it. Um yet I tested the

02:10:41.520 --> 02:10:44.055
scooter yesterday on Clarendon Street

02:10:44.079 --> 02:10:47.079
and um I could go as fast as I wanted on

02:10:47.360 --> 02:10:50.360
the footpath. Um all just to test for

02:10:51.199 --> 02:10:53.256
this. I wouldn't usually ride on a foot

02:10:53.280 --> 02:10:56.280
path. So my question Karen is, is the

02:10:56.880 --> 02:10:59.336
technology there and we're not using it

02:10:59.360 --> 02:11:01.976
or is the technology faulty or are we

02:11:02.000 --> 02:11:04.215
waiting for a new contract to implement

02:11:04.239 --> 02:11:07.239
the technology

02:11:09.360 --> 02:11:11.736
through you may  that's disappointing

02:11:11.760 --> 02:11:13.816
that you've been able to actually 

02:11:13.840 --> 02:11:16.840
ride at speed um and would would

02:11:17.040 --> 02:11:18.296
encourage you to provide some further

02:11:18.320 --> 02:11:20.536
information on the location and the

02:11:20.560 --> 02:11:23.560
operator for that particular um device.

02:11:24.239 --> 02:11:27.239
They are the technology is there. We

02:11:27.840 --> 02:11:30.840
have not we have some testing of

02:11:31.360 --> 02:11:33.816
bringing it to complete stop um with

02:11:33.840 --> 02:11:36.840
some of the operating operations but we

02:11:37.119 --> 02:11:39.336
would want to see what the latest

02:11:39.360 --> 02:11:41.336
technology is. We do have the latest

02:11:41.360 --> 02:11:44.360
scooters here in Melbourne. So with the

02:11:45.280 --> 02:11:48.280
two operators that we currently have. So

02:11:48.480 --> 02:11:50.695
um please feel free to provide further

02:11:50.719 --> 02:11:52.615
information. No, I I I will provide the

02:11:52.639 --> 02:11:54.215
information. I mean, I I was so

02:11:54.239 --> 02:11:56.456
disappointed when I could speed and just

02:11:56.480 --> 02:11:58.135
for the records, the security guard

02:11:58.159 --> 02:11:59.416
stopped me and said, "Why is the

02:11:59.440 --> 02:12:02.440
counselor on the footpath?" So, um,

02:12:02.560 --> 02:12:04.135
back to questions, councelor J.

02:12:04.159 --> 02:12:07.159
The next question was, "When I went to

02:12:07.199 --> 02:12:09.416
activate the scooter and I unlocked the

02:12:09.440 --> 02:12:11.336
helmet, it actually gave me a choice to

02:12:11.360 --> 02:12:14.360
use my own helmet, which um I used the

02:12:15.520 --> 02:12:18.215
um the company's helmet. Um, I did watch

02:12:18.239 --> 02:12:20.536
the scooter after I'd returned it and it

02:12:20.560 --> 02:12:22.215
was picked up and then another scooter

02:12:22.239 --> 02:12:24.936
was picked up and I saw um, three people

02:12:24.960 --> 02:12:26.376
just pressed the button saying they had

02:12:26.400 --> 02:12:27.816
their own helmet. They weren't wearing a

02:12:27.840 --> 02:12:30.215
helmet and off they went. So, I have a

02:12:30.239 --> 02:12:32.296
question on are police actually

02:12:32.320 --> 02:12:35.320
enforcing um, any of these ride scooters

02:12:36.079 --> 02:12:38.615
publicly for the helmet wearing as I had

02:12:38.639 --> 02:12:40.776
been many years ago received a fine from

02:12:40.800 --> 02:12:43.175
the police and never did it again. So,

02:12:43.199 --> 02:12:45.896
how's the enforcement around this? So

02:12:45.920 --> 02:12:48.215
through you, Mayor, I can't speak on pl

02:12:48.239 --> 02:12:50.296
behalf of Victoria Police and their

02:12:50.320 --> 02:12:52.695
enforcement in Port Phillip. I can say

02:12:52.719 --> 02:12:54.695
that under the new pre-qualification

02:12:54.719 --> 02:12:55.976
schemes that the Victorian government

02:12:56.000 --> 02:12:57.976
have brought in, there is a requirement

02:12:58.000 --> 02:13:01.000
for helmet verification technology to be

02:13:01.280 --> 02:13:04.280
available. They will not pass the um the

02:13:05.199 --> 02:13:06.856
pre-qualifications, which means they

02:13:06.880 --> 02:13:08.615
will not be able to operate in a shared

02:13:08.639 --> 02:13:10.296
scheme anywhere in Victoria if they

02:13:10.320 --> 02:13:12.856
don't pass that.

02:13:12.880 --> 02:13:15.175
that has just come into play from

02:13:15.199 --> 02:13:18.199
February and um all it is to help all

02:13:20.079 --> 02:13:22.376
other councils that wish to go into um

02:13:22.400 --> 02:13:25.400
agreements to be comfortable that

02:13:25.440 --> 02:13:27.416
they've met standard safety

02:13:27.440 --> 02:13:28.856
requirements.

02:13:28.880 --> 02:13:31.736
Thanks Karen. Um I do have  two more

02:13:31.760 --> 02:13:34.215
questions. Um being the South Melbourne

02:13:34.239 --> 02:13:37.016
Ward Counselor and having heard a lot of

02:13:37.040 --> 02:13:40.040
feedback from  Lakeside Area, St.

02:13:40.560 --> 02:13:43.416
Kilda road more so domain we are the

02:13:43.440 --> 02:13:44.936
border of the City of Melbourne the

02:13:44.960 --> 02:13:46.856
scooters don't cross over to the City of

02:13:46.880 --> 02:13:49.336
Melbourne so what we have is we have a

02:13:49.360 --> 02:13:52.360
lot of um dumped scooters that upset the

02:13:52.960 --> 02:13:54.695
residents and they live in highrises so

02:13:54.719 --> 02:13:57.016
they have a bird's eye view of it which

02:13:57.040 --> 02:14:00.040
creates even more frustration. Um so we

02:14:01.760 --> 02:14:03.336
looked at and and and look just for

02:14:03.360 --> 02:14:05.175
anyone listening we are privy to a lot

02:14:05.199 --> 02:14:07.016
of information before here that we've

02:14:07.040 --> 02:14:09.736
seen. So we have spoken in depth about

02:14:09.760 --> 02:14:11.575
um the geo fencing and having the

02:14:11.599 --> 02:14:13.575
specific parking lots which I've started

02:14:13.599 --> 02:14:15.896
seeing through Stonington and things. Um

02:14:15.920 --> 02:14:17.816
and I know you said that there was

02:14:17.840 --> 02:14:20.840
trials. Um what are we doing currently

02:14:22.480 --> 02:14:25.480
to fence the parking spots in the areas

02:14:25.920 --> 02:14:27.976
that we're possibly getting um high

02:14:28.000 --> 02:14:30.695
complaints  high use? Because out of

02:14:30.719 --> 02:14:33.256
the thousand complaints, 90% of them

02:14:33.280 --> 02:14:35.816
were about parking and you know what we

02:14:35.840 --> 02:14:37.976
referred to as possibly a dump scooter.

02:14:38.000 --> 02:14:40.376
So what are we doing now to enable the

02:14:40.400 --> 02:14:43.400
geo parking and the geo fencing

02:14:45.360 --> 02:14:48.360
through what we're doing now is actually

02:14:49.440 --> 02:14:52.440
partnering the geo fencing technology

02:14:52.639 --> 02:14:55.336
with the physical marked as marked bay

02:14:55.360 --> 02:14:57.016
so that there's clear indication that

02:14:57.040 --> 02:14:59.575
this is where a device is is meant to be

02:14:59.599 --> 02:15:01.736
that we continually review and respond

02:15:01.760 --> 02:15:04.760
to our community requests. We install

02:15:05.280 --> 02:15:07.976
new parking pins, digital parking pins

02:15:08.000 --> 02:15:11.000
as well. Um the compliance for these for

02:15:11.040 --> 02:15:14.040
parking is um something that  we would

02:15:14.719 --> 02:15:17.719
be  putting within a new contract um

02:15:18.639 --> 02:15:20.376
as opposed and strengthening what we

02:15:20.400 --> 02:15:22.936
currently have.

02:15:22.960 --> 02:15:25.175
So anything would be in a new contract.

02:15:25.199 --> 02:15:27.336
We couldn't do this. We we couldn't

02:15:27.360 --> 02:15:30.135
change the rules on the contractors now

02:15:30.159 --> 02:15:33.159
for the geo parking and fencing. We

02:15:33.440 --> 02:15:35.175
continue to make changes to the

02:15:35.199 --> 02:15:36.936
operational elements which are where

02:15:36.960 --> 02:15:39.336
they where they're parking. Um and as

02:15:39.360 --> 02:15:41.175
you've seen there's been a roll out of

02:15:41.199 --> 02:15:43.575
some of the the parking bays. We have

02:15:43.599 --> 02:15:45.175
got another round that is ready to go

02:15:45.199 --> 02:15:47.175
but it is dependent on you know

02:15:47.199 --> 02:15:50.199
continuing forward um with agreements.

02:15:52.480 --> 02:15:54.055
All right. This is a bit of a chicken

02:15:54.079 --> 02:15:56.936
and egg situation to to to be really

02:15:56.960 --> 02:15:59.496
clear for everyone. It's almost like we

02:15:59.520 --> 02:16:02.215
we there's an agreement um but the

02:16:02.239 --> 02:16:05.239
residents are just really angry about

02:16:06.000 --> 02:16:08.936
safety issues but we implement the

02:16:08.960 --> 02:16:11.175
safety issues. Can we implement these

02:16:11.199 --> 02:16:13.575
safety guard rails before we tend to the

02:16:13.599 --> 02:16:15.175
contract and give the community more

02:16:15.199 --> 02:16:17.256
confidence? Um which will lead to my

02:16:17.280 --> 02:16:20.215
next question. Um will we engage the

02:16:20.239 --> 02:16:23.239
community on feedback on this?

02:16:23.920 --> 02:16:26.920
So through you may we um we are

02:16:27.840 --> 02:16:30.215
continuing to roll out  designated

02:16:30.239 --> 02:16:32.295
parking. We continue to roll out digital

02:16:32.319 --> 02:16:34.936
parking and we can provide more coms to

02:16:34.960 --> 02:16:37.960
our community around that um before we

02:16:38.080 --> 02:16:41.016
go to procurement. The engagement with

02:16:41.040 --> 02:16:43.335
community has we've had six this is the

02:16:43.359 --> 02:16:45.096
sixth time we've come to council. So in

02:16:45.120 --> 02:16:48.120
a public forum um for discussion on e-

02:16:48.160 --> 02:16:50.776
on shared mobility  we've taken

02:16:50.800 --> 02:16:53.176
feedback from all of our requests and

02:16:53.200 --> 02:16:56.200
made adjustments to the services that we

02:16:57.439 --> 02:17:00.439
currently offer and um we are happy we

02:17:02.399 --> 02:17:05.399
would do we do consulting through

02:17:05.519 --> 02:17:07.575
different programs such as a road safety

02:17:07.599 --> 02:17:09.176
strategy and action plan that has just

02:17:09.200 --> 02:17:10.615
been out. So there was an opPortunity to

02:17:10.639 --> 02:17:12.936
provide feedback on e- scooters there

02:17:12.960 --> 02:17:15.816
and future engagement for other programs

02:17:15.840 --> 02:17:17.575
and for our integrated transPort

02:17:17.599 --> 02:17:18.056
strategy.

02:17:18.080 --> 02:17:20.136
Thank thank you Karen. I know it's not

02:17:20.160 --> 02:17:23.160
easy.

02:17:23.280 --> 02:17:26.280
Any further questions councelor Timman?

02:17:27.280 --> 02:17:29.816
So we what we are designed to do is we

02:17:29.840 --> 02:17:31.736
can have up to two operators. Is that

02:17:31.760 --> 02:17:34.760
correct?  and how many operators are

02:17:35.280 --> 02:17:37.335
there at the moment that we what's the

02:17:37.359 --> 02:17:39.655
the pool to choose from? And do we have

02:17:39.679 --> 02:17:41.976
to have two or we can just potentially

02:17:42.000 --> 02:17:44.695
choose one in case we're not satisfied?

02:17:44.719 --> 02:17:47.719
And then as a followup on Betty Council

02:17:48.800 --> 02:17:51.800
um  Jay's wild ride on in South

02:17:52.719 --> 02:17:55.495
Melbourne,  could it be that maybe not

02:17:55.519 --> 02:17:58.056
all the scooters have been upgraded to

02:17:58.080 --> 02:18:00.295
the latest technology u because

02:18:00.319 --> 02:18:02.695
obviously this takes time. So maybe not

02:18:02.719 --> 02:18:05.495
the whole the whole pool. Um so but can

02:18:05.519 --> 02:18:07.495
we put requirements  within the

02:18:07.519 --> 02:18:09.495
contract to make sure that all the

02:18:09.519 --> 02:18:12.519
scooters have got the latest technology

02:18:14.240 --> 02:18:16.776
through you Mayor. Um we currently have

02:18:16.800 --> 02:18:18.856
two operators and a previous endorsed

02:18:18.880 --> 02:18:21.575
position to have up to two operators for

02:18:21.599 --> 02:18:24.599
a future shared scheme. Um that does not

02:18:25.280 --> 02:18:27.736
oblige us through the procurement

02:18:27.760 --> 02:18:30.535
process to select the current operators

02:18:30.559 --> 02:18:33.559
or to up to two operators. So if there

02:18:34.399 --> 02:18:37.399
is offering that is the best um for our

02:18:37.519 --> 02:18:39.096
community and the service that is

02:18:39.120 --> 02:18:42.120
provided we're not tied  to the

02:18:42.559 --> 02:18:45.559
current operators.  the second part

02:18:45.599 --> 02:18:47.415
I'm sorry

02:18:47.439 --> 02:18:50.375
the pool how many how many op how many

02:18:50.399 --> 02:18:52.936
providers there are  there will be a

02:18:52.960 --> 02:18:55.495
variety of providers. Some may only want

02:18:55.519 --> 02:18:57.736
to offer e scooters. Some may want to

02:18:57.760 --> 02:19:00.760
offer only ebikes. So the pool has may

02:19:02.240 --> 02:19:05.240
be smaller than 4 years ago. Um however

02:19:06.880 --> 02:19:09.495
we won't know until we go to market who

02:19:09.519 --> 02:19:11.736
will actually do an application for City

02:19:11.760 --> 02:19:14.760
of Port Phillip.

02:19:16.639 --> 02:19:19.639
Two is that  two ebikes, two e

02:19:19.920 --> 02:19:22.920
scooters  or two doing both? What 

02:19:23.760 --> 02:19:26.760
what  what is the

02:19:27.200 --> 02:19:30.200
the aim here to cuz could we have two

02:19:30.880 --> 02:19:33.880
ebikes operators and two scooters

02:19:34.000 --> 02:19:35.736
operators? So in that case it's actually

02:19:35.760 --> 02:19:38.760
four people.

02:19:41.280 --> 02:19:43.495
Sorry you go. Well, I I think through

02:19:43.519 --> 02:19:45.415
through you, Mayor, through the market

02:19:45.439 --> 02:19:47.415
testing, we would be going out to market

02:19:47.439 --> 02:19:50.439
to see what proposals from companies

02:19:50.479 --> 02:19:53.479
came in in the the mix. Obviously, we

02:19:53.520 --> 02:19:55.496
are not sure what we'll receive. We know

02:19:55.520 --> 02:19:57.256
there's operators out there, but we'll

02:19:57.280 --> 02:20:00.280
be testing that if we go out to market.

02:20:00.319 --> 02:20:02.216
We will find out.

02:20:02.240 --> 02:20:03.736
Any other questions? The

02:20:03.760 --> 02:20:06.216
the second question was about conditions

02:20:06.240 --> 02:20:08.536
about the latest the scooters having the

02:20:08.560 --> 02:20:11.560
latest technology.

02:20:14.000 --> 02:20:16.776
through you may um that would be a

02:20:16.800 --> 02:20:19.800
requirement for  all operators that

02:20:20.160 --> 02:20:23.160
apply that they for any procurement

02:20:23.359 --> 02:20:25.176
process that they are able to meet the

02:20:25.200 --> 02:20:26.776
standards for the with the latest

02:20:26.800 --> 02:20:28.295
technology

02:20:28.319 --> 02:20:31.319
again sorry through your m if I can um

02:20:31.359 --> 02:20:33.335
clearly one of the key criteria that

02:20:33.359 --> 02:20:35.656
we'll be looking at as part of this

02:20:35.680 --> 02:20:38.375
process should we go down that process

02:20:38.399 --> 02:20:40.936
 is not just the avail availability

02:20:40.960 --> 02:20:43.176
but the demonstrated use of that

02:20:43.200 --> 02:20:46.136
availability. So that'll occur not just

02:20:46.160 --> 02:20:49.016
on paper but in practice.  and that

02:20:49.040 --> 02:20:50.936
will be a key selection criteria in

02:20:50.960 --> 02:20:52.776
terms of any recommendation that's made

02:20:52.800 --> 02:20:55.800
in terms of the engagement of a scooter

02:20:56.160 --> 02:20:59.160
or indeed um an ebike provider.

02:21:00.800 --> 02:21:03.800
Councelor Jay, I saw your hand before.

02:21:04.479 --> 02:21:07.479
Thank you, Mayor. Um  has there been

02:21:07.760 --> 02:21:09.576
any consideration into some sort of

02:21:09.600 --> 02:21:11.976
docking station in the trouble areas or

02:21:12.000 --> 02:21:14.536
the trouble zones?

02:21:14.560 --> 02:21:17.560
Is this something that is done?

02:21:19.359 --> 02:21:21.176
So through through you may in ter in

02:21:21.200 --> 02:21:23.335
terms of our geo fencing parking areas

02:21:23.359 --> 02:21:24.856
particularly our activity centers that's

02:21:24.880 --> 02:21:26.455
something certainly that we have been

02:21:26.479 --> 02:21:28.696
starting to roll out. we understand and

02:21:28.720 --> 02:21:31.415
look at the the nature of complaints and

02:21:31.439 --> 02:21:34.136
talking to traders etc where these

02:21:34.160 --> 02:21:35.976
trouble spots or hot spots are and

02:21:36.000 --> 02:21:37.496
that's where we have been starting to

02:21:37.520 --> 02:21:40.520
roll out these these parking spot um

02:21:40.560 --> 02:21:42.616
locators

02:21:42.640 --> 02:21:45.640
and and and Mike um do you have perhaps

02:21:45.840 --> 02:21:48.840
a time frame where we could expand that

02:21:49.200 --> 02:21:51.256
geo fencing and give the residents a bit

02:21:51.280 --> 02:21:54.280
more confidence going forward or is it a

02:21:57.920 --> 02:22:00.856
um through you may I think obviously

02:22:00.880 --> 02:22:03.736
we've been rolling it out to date if we

02:22:03.760 --> 02:22:05.496
proceed to procurement we'll be wanting

02:22:05.520 --> 02:22:08.520
to continue to roll roll that out um as

02:22:08.800 --> 02:22:10.696
quickly as we possibly can in those hot

02:22:10.720 --> 02:22:13.096
spots um but obviously getting certainty

02:22:13.120 --> 02:22:16.120
for the companies and the um future of

02:22:16.160 --> 02:22:18.295
the scheme is crucial to be able to

02:22:18.319 --> 02:22:21.319
continue to do that

02:22:22.560 --> 02:22:25.496
any further questions yes councelor

02:22:25.520 --> 02:22:26.936
tomorrow.

02:22:26.960 --> 02:22:29.335
Yes, obviously there are um people like

02:22:29.359 --> 02:22:31.656
maybe they even historical what happened

02:22:31.680 --> 02:22:34.680
in the past and stuff. Um is is can we

02:22:35.120 --> 02:22:37.176
demand from the companies to have an

02:22:37.200 --> 02:22:40.200
easy way like a 24/7 1 800 number or

02:22:40.720 --> 02:22:42.776
something? Can we demand from them there

02:22:42.800 --> 02:22:45.736
is an easy way for  people to complain

02:22:45.760 --> 02:22:48.760
or to make comments about an issue? Um

02:22:49.920 --> 02:22:52.920
and so hopefully it's resolved quickly

02:22:54.240 --> 02:22:56.616
through you Mayor. Um we have a

02:22:56.640 --> 02:22:59.016
requirement for our current operators to

02:22:59.040 --> 02:23:01.976
have um customer service people located

02:23:02.000 --> 02:23:03.896
here in Melbourne. Um that was part of

02:23:03.920 --> 02:23:05.576
the agreement when we entered into the

02:23:05.600 --> 02:23:07.576
trial. That would be something that we

02:23:07.600 --> 02:23:10.600
would continue. They provide um apart

02:23:10.720 --> 02:23:13.335
from the direct contact with council um

02:23:13.359 --> 02:23:15.496
through the Portal through snaps solve

02:23:15.520 --> 02:23:18.520
or through um direct emails to council

02:23:20.160 --> 02:23:22.616
offices. They als the the operators

02:23:22.640 --> 02:23:25.640
provide a a 247 number. We have they

02:23:26.479 --> 02:23:28.776
have QR codes on each of the devices

02:23:28.800 --> 02:23:31.256
which can be used to contact the the

02:23:31.280 --> 02:23:34.280
operators directly. Um and we will

02:23:34.720 --> 02:23:37.016
continue that into a future agreement

02:23:37.040 --> 02:23:39.335
ensuring that the community has direct

02:23:39.359 --> 02:23:42.359
access to the operators.

02:23:44.479 --> 02:23:47.415
Any further questions?

02:23:47.439 --> 02:23:49.176
Yes, councelor Jay.

02:23:49.200 --> 02:23:52.200
I know um um and this may have been

02:23:53.200 --> 02:23:54.856
answered. Do we have any figures about

02:23:54.880 --> 02:23:57.016
any fatalities or serious injuries that

02:23:57.040 --> 02:23:58.936
have occurred in Port Phillip

02:23:58.960 --> 02:24:01.960
specifically with rental scooters?

02:24:05.040 --> 02:24:08.040
rePort

02:24:10.640 --> 02:24:13.415
through you Mayor. Um we do keep all

02:24:13.439 --> 02:24:15.816
injury statistics. This is a requirement

02:24:15.840 --> 02:24:17.896
that that that any injuries are rePorted

02:24:17.920 --> 02:24:20.375
to us so that we are that we understand

02:24:20.399 --> 02:24:22.295
we have had no fatalities in the City of

02:24:22.319 --> 02:24:23.976
Port Phillip throughout the whole of the

02:24:24.000 --> 02:24:27.000
trial. um we can only be assured of the

02:24:28.319 --> 02:24:30.295
ones that are rePorted to the operators

02:24:30.319 --> 02:24:31.896
and not necessarily through the

02:24:31.920 --> 02:24:33.896
emergency rooms because the the

02:24:33.920 --> 02:24:36.776
information is not accurate um as in it

02:24:36.800 --> 02:24:39.096
doesn't differentiate between shared and

02:24:39.120 --> 02:24:42.120
um private escooters. So um we can we

02:24:42.399 --> 02:24:44.295
can definitely come back to you with

02:24:44.319 --> 02:24:46.536
static statistics on that but we do

02:24:46.560 --> 02:24:48.295
require that the operators provide us

02:24:48.319 --> 02:24:51.319
with that information. A and can you

02:24:51.439 --> 02:24:53.176
share how many injuries we've had during

02:24:53.200 --> 02:24:55.176
the trial or at least an average for

02:24:55.200 --> 02:24:58.136
this year? Sorry.

02:24:58.160 --> 02:25:00.936
Um  through you may if you can bear

02:25:00.960 --> 02:25:02.776
with me. I may be able to pull up the

02:25:02.800 --> 02:25:03.976
rePort

02:25:04.000 --> 02:25:07.000
on on the the latest statistics.

02:25:13.200 --> 02:25:14.856
If it's easier, we can take it on

02:25:14.880 --> 02:25:17.335
notice, too.

02:25:17.359 --> 02:25:18.616
Yeah, I think it's probably we can take

02:25:18.640 --> 02:25:20.375
that on notice. We do have a noted but

02:25:20.399 --> 02:25:23.335
we'll come we can miss that back.

02:25:23.359 --> 02:25:26.359
Any further questions?

02:25:28.960 --> 02:25:31.016
Be careful what I wish for. Any further

02:25:31.040 --> 02:25:34.040
questions?

02:25:35.680 --> 02:25:38.295
No further questions. All right. We have

02:25:38.319 --> 02:25:40.056
a recommendation before us. Is removal

02:25:40.080 --> 02:25:41.976
of that recommendation or something

02:25:42.000 --> 02:25:44.936
different? Deputy Mayor Mes the floor is

02:25:44.960 --> 02:25:45.816
yours.

02:25:45.840 --> 02:25:48.616
Thank you Mayor Min. Yes, I have a an

02:25:48.640 --> 02:25:51.640
alternative recommendation

02:25:52.080 --> 02:25:55.080
on this matter I want to lodge.

02:25:56.160 --> 02:25:59.160
So, if I can read through it on 3.4,

02:25:59.680 --> 02:26:01.896
the inclusion of the word to negotiate

02:26:01.920 --> 02:26:03.896
agreements

02:26:03.920 --> 02:26:06.920
 continuing on  shared micromobility

02:26:08.560 --> 02:26:11.096
providers for the provision of ecooters

02:26:11.120 --> 02:26:13.736
and ebikes. Any agreement will be

02:26:13.760 --> 02:26:16.536
brought to council for authorization.

02:26:16.560 --> 02:26:19.560
The agreement is to include 3.4.1

02:26:20.960 --> 02:26:23.576
revenue outcomes that exceed the cost of

02:26:23.600 --> 02:26:25.896
council administration of the agreements

02:26:25.920 --> 02:26:27.976
and any additional revenue is to be

02:26:28.000 --> 02:26:29.816
reinvested into the sustainable

02:26:29.840 --> 02:26:32.840
transPort reserve to fund road safety

02:26:32.960 --> 02:26:35.736
improvements for road users including

02:26:35.760 --> 02:26:38.760
escooter and ebike users. 3.4.2 two, a

02:26:41.280 --> 02:26:43.896
requirement that the e-cooter and ebike

02:26:43.920 --> 02:26:46.856
operators provide to council regular

02:26:46.880 --> 02:26:49.880
data on safety incidents and requests

02:26:50.560 --> 02:26:53.560
that data together with other available

02:26:53.920 --> 02:26:56.616
safety incident data is included in the

02:26:56.640 --> 02:26:59.640
publicly available CEO rePort 3.5

02:27:01.359 --> 02:27:03.496
requests the procurement process

02:27:03.520 --> 02:27:05.736
includes a physical demonstration of

02:27:05.760 --> 02:27:08.455
requirements including geo fencing

02:27:08.479 --> 02:27:11.016
capabilities for digital parking and

02:27:11.040 --> 02:27:13.896
zone management, footpath riding

02:27:13.920 --> 02:27:16.696
detection, exclusion and enforcement

02:27:16.720 --> 02:27:19.720
technology and illegal parking

02:27:19.760 --> 02:27:22.375
enforcement technology. The outcomes of

02:27:22.399 --> 02:27:24.216
the physical demonstration will be

02:27:24.240 --> 02:27:26.696
rePorted to council as part of their

02:27:26.720 --> 02:27:29.016
consideration of any agreement for

02:27:29.040 --> 02:27:32.040
shared ecooters through the procurement

02:27:32.080 --> 02:27:35.080
process. 3.6 Six requests that community

02:27:37.359 --> 02:27:40.359
consultation on shared micro mobility

02:27:40.880 --> 02:27:42.856
services,

02:27:42.880 --> 02:27:45.880
meaning ecooters and ebikes, occurs as

02:27:46.720 --> 02:27:48.696
part of the review and development of

02:27:48.720 --> 02:27:51.496
the integrated transPort strategy due to

02:27:51.520 --> 02:27:54.216
commence in 2026

02:27:54.240 --> 02:27:56.856
2027.

02:27:56.880 --> 02:27:59.880
Thank you.

02:28:00.880 --> 02:28:03.880
We have a recommendation before ask

02:28:04.640 --> 02:28:07.415
clarifying you can please. May you

02:28:07.439 --> 02:28:10.439
clarif um

02:28:11.439 --> 02:28:14.216
3.5 down the bottom of 3.5 it only lists

02:28:14.240 --> 02:28:16.696
e scooters here in those technology

02:28:16.720 --> 02:28:18.295
demonstrations. Should that be e-

02:28:18.319 --> 02:28:21.176
scooters and ebikes?  we should have

02:28:21.200 --> 02:28:23.896
the word ebikes in there correct

02:28:23.920 --> 02:28:26.920
at the end of that paragraph 3.5. Yep.

02:28:27.359 --> 02:28:28.936
Thank you. You picked a deliberate

02:28:28.960 --> 02:28:31.960
mistake. Well done.

02:28:32.960 --> 02:28:35.960
Thank you.

02:28:40.160 --> 02:28:41.016
Any other

02:28:41.040 --> 02:28:43.816
while we're looking at the recommend or

02:28:43.840 --> 02:28:45.576
the alternate recommendations being put

02:28:45.600 --> 02:28:47.415
before us, is there any other questions

02:28:47.439 --> 02:28:50.439
of clarification to it?

02:29:15.840 --> 02:29:17.256
For our viewers at home, we're just

02:29:17.280 --> 02:29:19.415
finessing the alternate recommendation

02:29:19.439 --> 02:29:22.439
that's before us.

02:29:28.880 --> 02:29:29.896
Yep. ,

02:29:29.920 --> 02:29:31.176
Deputy Mayers.

02:29:31.200 --> 02:29:34.200
Thank you. , Mayor Min, , to exclude

02:29:35.439 --> 02:29:38.136
the existing 3.5

02:29:38.160 --> 02:29:41.160
um, a clause. I can read it out if it's

02:29:41.439 --> 02:29:43.576
required.

02:29:43.600 --> 02:29:46.600
Yes, it is. Okay.

02:29:46.720 --> 02:29:48.696
It's a little bit hard, right? notes

02:29:48.720 --> 02:29:51.256
that any revenue generated from operator

02:29:51.280 --> 02:29:53.576
fees in excessive council administration

02:29:53.600 --> 02:29:55.656
and management costs for the shared

02:29:55.680 --> 02:29:58.680
micro mobility agreements be revealed 

02:30:00.080 --> 02:30:03.080
sorry be reinvested into the sustainable

02:30:04.080 --> 02:30:06.455
transPort reserve to fund road safety

02:30:06.479 --> 02:30:09.016
improvements for road users including

02:30:09.040 --> 02:30:12.040
ecooter and ebike users.

02:30:13.040 --> 02:30:16.040
Yep. And that is now deemed to be

02:30:16.160 --> 02:30:18.136
redundant based on the rest of the

02:30:18.160 --> 02:30:19.496
recommendation before us or the

02:30:19.520 --> 02:30:22.520
alternate recommendation before us.

02:30:23.040 --> 02:30:24.616
We have an alternate recommendation

02:30:24.640 --> 02:30:26.776
before us. Any further questions of

02:30:26.800 --> 02:30:28.856
clarification? That alternate

02:30:28.880 --> 02:30:31.016
recommendation being put by the Deputy

02:30:31.040 --> 02:30:34.040
Mayor m. It is seconded by councelor

02:30:34.960 --> 02:30:37.960
Holidayiday. In which case we can now

02:30:38.240 --> 02:30:40.216
debate the motion over to the mover.

02:30:40.240 --> 02:30:42.856
Deputy Mayor Mes, your floor is yours to

02:30:42.880 --> 02:30:44.216
open the debate.

02:30:44.240 --> 02:30:47.016
Thank you.  this  we've had a very

02:30:47.040 --> 02:30:49.415
good discussion this evening and a lot

02:30:49.439 --> 02:30:51.816
of the points that have been raised I

02:30:51.840 --> 02:30:54.840
believe  my altar addresses um mostly

02:30:57.600 --> 02:31:00.600
if not entirely. Um I think  with 

02:31:03.120 --> 02:31:05.896
consideration here tonight  we have

02:31:05.920 --> 02:31:07.816
arrived at this point or I've arrived at

02:31:07.840 --> 02:31:10.840
this point with um  supPort from  my

02:31:12.240 --> 02:31:15.240
councelor colleagues in determining that

02:31:15.840 --> 02:31:18.375
there are many issues

02:31:18.399 --> 02:31:21.399
 in the use of these devices.

02:31:22.240 --> 02:31:25.240
 this is a preferred device for

02:31:25.920 --> 02:31:28.920
transPort for many many people and it is

02:31:29.359 --> 02:31:32.359
simply not possible to say to those

02:31:34.080 --> 02:31:37.080
people sorry you can't use these things

02:31:38.080 --> 02:31:40.216
 because we don't like them or some

02:31:40.240 --> 02:31:42.136
part of our community don't doesn't like

02:31:42.160 --> 02:31:45.160
them the reality is that this is a

02:31:45.200 --> 02:31:48.200
accepted form of transPort which will

02:31:48.319 --> 02:31:51.319
increase I am very concerned And I think

02:31:52.399 --> 02:31:54.856
the document we have here with the

02:31:54.880 --> 02:31:57.880
altered recommendation reflects the fact

02:31:58.640 --> 02:32:00.136
that

02:32:00.160 --> 02:32:03.160
the City of Port Phillip wants to 

02:32:03.200 --> 02:32:06.200
deliver this service into its community

02:32:06.560 --> 02:32:08.856
but wants to ensure

02:32:08.880 --> 02:32:11.816
that all considerations full

02:32:11.840 --> 02:32:13.415
considerations for the safety and

02:32:13.439 --> 02:32:15.335
well-being of our community is

02:32:15.359 --> 02:32:18.359
addressed. We don't want to issue or

02:32:18.800 --> 02:32:21.736
introduce a flawed scheme into the

02:32:21.760 --> 02:32:24.760
community. This goes, I think, all the

02:32:25.120 --> 02:32:28.120
way to ensure that that doesn't happen.

02:32:28.160 --> 02:32:31.016
Um, appreciate the assistance from the

02:32:31.040 --> 02:32:33.816
council officers as well in making sure

02:32:33.840 --> 02:32:36.455
that the key critical elements are

02:32:36.479 --> 02:32:38.295
addressed.

02:32:38.319 --> 02:32:41.319
personal safety that people 

02:32:41.520 --> 02:32:44.520
pedestrians in our community can safely

02:32:44.560 --> 02:32:46.616
walk on the footpath, which is what it's

02:32:46.640 --> 02:32:49.640
designed to do, not to have people

02:32:50.160 --> 02:32:52.856
tearing up and down the footpath on un

02:32:52.880 --> 02:32:55.880
 regulated vehicles or devices. So,

02:32:57.680 --> 02:33:00.295
I'm very keen to ensure that we get this

02:33:00.319 --> 02:33:02.856
right. I believe what we are looking at

02:33:02.880 --> 02:33:05.816
here does that and  I will be looking

02:33:05.840 --> 02:33:08.840
for the supPort of  my colleagues 

02:33:08.880 --> 02:33:11.335
fellow councilors tonight. Thank you.

02:33:11.359 --> 02:33:13.816
Thank you Deputy Mayers for opening the

02:33:13.840 --> 02:33:16.840
debate. Does the second wish to speak?

02:33:17.680 --> 02:33:20.680
Thank you Mayor. Um and first off

02:33:21.280 --> 02:33:24.056
obviously thank you to all of the um

02:33:24.080 --> 02:33:25.176
officers who've been through the

02:33:25.200 --> 02:33:27.576
procurement process on this one and 

02:33:27.600 --> 02:33:29.176
all of the preparation and all the work

02:33:29.200 --> 02:33:30.696
behind the scenes over the course of

02:33:30.720 --> 02:33:33.496
this trial of refining the technology

02:33:33.520 --> 02:33:35.736
and improving the technology and taking

02:33:35.760 --> 02:33:38.760
into account feedback from our residents

02:33:38.960 --> 02:33:41.256
and writers here. Um, and thank you as

02:33:41.280 --> 02:33:44.280
well to Brian for proposing these

02:33:44.399 --> 02:33:47.399
amendments, um, which I think are are

02:33:47.920 --> 02:33:50.920
sensible, um, and reflect the the

02:33:51.280 --> 02:33:54.280
demonstrated demand for this, um, for e-

02:33:54.319 --> 02:33:56.375
scooters and ebikes and the usage of

02:33:56.399 --> 02:33:59.399
them. I I love micromobility, right?

02:34:00.720 --> 02:34:03.176
When I see someone riding a scooter,

02:34:03.200 --> 02:34:05.816
riding a bike, it makes me happy because

02:34:05.840 --> 02:34:07.496
they're not driving a car. They're

02:34:07.520 --> 02:34:09.415
getting where they need to go. they're

02:34:09.439 --> 02:34:11.816
getting out of the way. They're they're

02:34:11.840 --> 02:34:14.375
not clogging up our roads with traffic.

02:34:14.399 --> 02:34:17.399
Um so this to me is a huge benefit to

02:34:19.359 --> 02:34:22.359
our community. It um allows a lot of

02:34:22.560 --> 02:34:25.096
people to not have a car. It allows them

02:34:25.120 --> 02:34:27.976
to get around around to cover that last

02:34:28.000 --> 02:34:29.976
mile of wherever they want to go. They

02:34:30.000 --> 02:34:31.736
get their tram somewhere and if they

02:34:31.760 --> 02:34:33.736
need to go somewhere nearby or their

02:34:33.760 --> 02:34:35.576
train, they can get on a scooter and get

02:34:35.600 --> 02:34:38.600
there. Um, but also the community has

02:34:39.120 --> 02:34:41.016
concerns about it as you do with any new

02:34:41.040 --> 02:34:42.856
technology or new thing coming to our

02:34:42.880 --> 02:34:44.936
world. And so I understand the

02:34:44.960 --> 02:34:47.816
community's concerns here. Um, when they

02:34:47.840 --> 02:34:49.335
see

02:34:49.359 --> 02:34:51.576
scooters blocking foot paths or people

02:34:51.600 --> 02:34:54.600
doing the wrong thing on scooters. Um, I

02:34:55.439 --> 02:34:57.335
personally extend those concerns to

02:34:57.359 --> 02:34:59.576
cars. When I go outside, I see cars

02:34:59.600 --> 02:35:02.455
everywhere strewn all over the world.

02:35:02.479 --> 02:35:05.479
Um, and I have the same reaction to that

02:35:06.160 --> 02:35:08.455
um, as people have to these scooters.

02:35:08.479 --> 02:35:11.016
So, I think that through these

02:35:11.040 --> 02:35:13.976
amendments and through this , these

02:35:14.000 --> 02:35:16.856
new contracts, we can hopefully manage

02:35:16.880 --> 02:35:18.536
some of those concerns, some of those

02:35:18.560 --> 02:35:21.335
teething troubles and eventually we'll

02:35:21.359 --> 02:35:24.359
build up this knowledge in people about

02:35:24.399 --> 02:35:26.936
how to behave, how to be a good citizen

02:35:26.960 --> 02:35:29.960
while using um, these mobility devices.

02:35:30.640 --> 02:35:33.640
 so I think this is super sensible and

02:35:34.640 --> 02:35:37.016
it maintains the intent of this scheme.

02:35:37.040 --> 02:35:39.896
It protects people's accessibility of

02:35:39.920 --> 02:35:42.455
our footpaths in our public spaces and

02:35:42.479 --> 02:35:45.176
protects people from their worst um own

02:35:45.200 --> 02:35:48.200
behaviors.  so I fully supPort this

02:35:48.560 --> 02:35:51.560
and um again encourage fellow counselors

02:35:52.399 --> 02:35:54.216
to supPort this as well.

02:35:54.240 --> 02:35:56.216
Thank you councelor Holidayiday. That's

02:35:56.240 --> 02:35:57.976
been moved and seconded. Any other

02:35:58.000 --> 02:36:00.375
counselors wish to speak to this motion?

02:36:00.399 --> 02:36:02.295
Councelor Consol.

02:36:02.319 --> 02:36:05.319
Thank you. Um,

02:36:05.840 --> 02:36:08.696
it's a few ruin ruining it for the many

02:36:08.720 --> 02:36:10.375
and that's really upsetting and we'll

02:36:10.399 --> 02:36:12.136
make so many rules to try to capture

02:36:12.160 --> 02:36:14.936
that few because they really are a

02:36:14.960 --> 02:36:17.960
plague on um the idea. Now um you know

02:36:19.200 --> 02:36:20.856
we all are equally concerned about food

02:36:20.880 --> 02:36:22.375
delivery drivers that might be breaking

02:36:22.399 --> 02:36:24.616
the rules too. But I find that these

02:36:24.640 --> 02:36:25.816
companies have been really responsive

02:36:25.840 --> 02:36:28.216
every time I've raised a concern about

02:36:28.240 --> 02:36:30.295
um parking that's blocking paths or

02:36:30.319 --> 02:36:32.856
anything like that that um I've had a

02:36:32.880 --> 02:36:34.936
positive response and that they are

02:36:34.960 --> 02:36:36.216
looking into it and the new technology

02:36:36.240 --> 02:36:38.375
is always evolving and they're using

02:36:38.399 --> 02:36:39.576
Melbourne as one of those places.

02:36:39.600 --> 02:36:41.736
They're doing it first around the world.

02:36:41.760 --> 02:36:44.216
Um there's it's Thank you for bringing

02:36:44.240 --> 02:36:47.240
the amendment. I think that it helps 

02:36:47.359 --> 02:36:49.896
potentially look at some other aspects

02:36:49.920 --> 02:36:51.256
and one of the ones that I want to

02:36:51.280 --> 02:36:53.736
highlight um in addition to it is our

02:36:53.760 --> 02:36:56.136
shared path. So we're getting greater

02:36:56.160 --> 02:36:58.856
use out of shared path. So one is like

02:36:58.880 --> 02:37:01.736
the garden City reserve bike path that

02:37:01.760 --> 02:37:03.656
goes through there. I have a lot of

02:37:03.680 --> 02:37:06.216
residents that live there that complain

02:37:06.240 --> 02:37:08.455
how fast people go through there. So

02:37:08.479 --> 02:37:09.816
over time, I think we need to really

02:37:09.840 --> 02:37:12.536
address how much uses of these because

02:37:12.560 --> 02:37:15.096
it isn't just the shared scheme. It is

02:37:15.120 --> 02:37:17.176
the private ones that are now legal in

02:37:17.200 --> 02:37:18.616
our area that people are using and

02:37:18.640 --> 02:37:21.640
abusing and giving bad names to all of

02:37:22.479 --> 02:37:25.479
these micromobility um opPortunity

02:37:27.120 --> 02:37:30.120
things.  so possible signage upgrades

02:37:30.399 --> 02:37:32.455
that we need to factor in maybe some

02:37:32.479 --> 02:37:35.479
rumple strips in areas that are very

02:37:35.840 --> 02:37:37.496
problematic.

02:37:37.520 --> 02:37:39.736
We have a a duty and council to deliver

02:37:39.760 --> 02:37:42.295
that high the infrastructure uplift as

02:37:42.319 --> 02:37:44.375
well so that people can move around in

02:37:44.399 --> 02:37:45.576
our City and we do that through

02:37:45.600 --> 02:37:48.536
integrated transPortation um strategy as

02:37:48.560 --> 02:37:51.096
well.  so I'm supPortive of this

02:37:51.120 --> 02:37:52.536
tonight but know that we still have more

02:37:52.560 --> 02:37:55.176
to do to ensure the safety and concerns

02:37:55.200 --> 02:37:58.200
are addressed among our residents.

02:37:58.319 --> 02:38:00.056
Thank you councelor Conello. Any other

02:38:00.080 --> 02:38:03.016
councilors wish to speak to the motion?

02:38:03.040 --> 02:38:05.656
Yes, councelor Timman.

02:38:05.680 --> 02:38:08.680
Um I I supPort this motion and 

02:38:09.439 --> 02:38:11.816
especially like the idea that obviously

02:38:11.840 --> 02:38:14.840
we are setting a trend  and that what

02:38:15.520 --> 02:38:18.520
we are doing here is is is

02:38:19.280 --> 02:38:21.335
world class and the first in the world

02:38:21.359 --> 02:38:22.696
for some of the stuff that's happening

02:38:22.720 --> 02:38:25.176
here and  I'm glad that some of those

02:38:25.200 --> 02:38:26.936
operators have chosen the City of Port

02:38:26.960 --> 02:38:29.960
Phillip  to be um to be a test for the

02:38:31.600 --> 02:38:34.600
other markets in the world. Um and um I

02:38:36.080 --> 02:38:39.016
do thank our officers to have

02:38:39.040 --> 02:38:41.736
facilitated this because obviously um

02:38:41.760 --> 02:38:43.816
they wouldn't be doing the test if 

02:38:43.840 --> 02:38:45.976
the officers wouldn't be interested to

02:38:46.000 --> 02:38:49.000
 work with them and be cooperative. So

02:38:49.280 --> 02:38:52.280
um you know I I I unfortunately you've

02:38:52.880 --> 02:38:55.656
got a couple of bad eggs and hopefully

02:38:55.680 --> 02:38:57.176
with the new technology they can be

02:38:57.200 --> 02:38:59.656
caught and they cannot use  they

02:38:59.680 --> 02:39:01.656
cannot use the machines anymore. But 

02:39:01.680 --> 02:39:03.976
I think it's worth having a trial and I

02:39:04.000 --> 02:39:07.000
think with what we have  added in the

02:39:07.040 --> 02:39:09.656
recommendation it sort of covers some of

02:39:09.680 --> 02:39:11.656
the safety issues and some of the

02:39:11.680 --> 02:39:14.455
concerns that we have been given from

02:39:14.479 --> 02:39:17.479
our community. I think it's um as I said

02:39:18.240 --> 02:39:20.216
before, I think a lot of the concern

02:39:20.240 --> 02:39:22.216
that people have is sort of historical

02:39:22.240 --> 02:39:25.240
when people don't even know um that

02:39:26.000 --> 02:39:29.000
you've got  that the e scooters

02:39:29.600 --> 02:39:31.816
especially have got the technology and

02:39:31.840 --> 02:39:34.840
they can't technically be on the on the

02:39:35.359 --> 02:39:38.359
foot pass and when I actually see um IU

02:39:40.080 --> 02:39:42.536
ebak so so or is schools on the foot

02:39:42.560 --> 02:39:44.856
pass it is private ones not necessarily

02:39:44.880 --> 02:39:47.415
lime or whatever they're called. So I

02:39:47.439 --> 02:39:50.439
think this allows us to um regulate

02:39:51.920 --> 02:39:54.920
um and if we don't allow this to happen

02:39:56.080 --> 02:39:58.455
more people potentially have the private

02:39:58.479 --> 02:40:00.375
ones and they'll can race down the

02:40:00.399 --> 02:40:02.375
streets with you know at 40 or 50ks an

02:40:02.399 --> 02:40:05.256
hour and that's much more dangerous and

02:40:05.280 --> 02:40:07.176
will not be able to you know will not

02:40:07.200 --> 02:40:09.096
necessarily be able to catch them or

02:40:09.120 --> 02:40:11.496
find them if there's a casualty. So as

02:40:11.520 --> 02:40:14.520
as fully supPort  the way we are

02:40:14.800 --> 02:40:17.096
engaging and the way we look at  the

02:40:17.120 --> 02:40:20.120
use of this new technology in our City.

02:40:22.160 --> 02:40:24.295
Thank you councelor Timman. Any other

02:40:24.319 --> 02:40:26.616
councilors wish to speak to the motion?

02:40:26.640 --> 02:40:29.496
Councelor Jay.

02:40:29.520 --> 02:40:31.576
Um thank you. There's been some

02:40:31.600 --> 02:40:33.576
excellent points made and some excellent

02:40:33.600 --> 02:40:36.600
changes made. So, I commend you, Deputy

02:40:36.640 --> 02:40:38.295
Mayor Mes, and the rest of the

02:40:38.319 --> 02:40:40.696
councilors that put some work in to

02:40:40.720 --> 02:40:43.176
really address the community's um

02:40:43.200 --> 02:40:46.200
concerns and fears. Um, now I love cars

02:40:46.640 --> 02:40:49.496
and I love scooters, so I I I like the

02:40:49.520 --> 02:40:52.520
best of both worlds and um  use it

02:40:52.800 --> 02:40:55.800
very regularly. Um,

02:40:56.479 --> 02:40:58.216
I'm really not sure how I'm going to go

02:40:58.240 --> 02:41:00.136
with this one because the truth of it is

02:41:00.160 --> 02:41:01.816
we all have very different demographics

02:41:01.840 --> 02:41:04.840
in our ward and my ward um has a lot of

02:41:05.439 --> 02:41:08.439
older and elderly people that just um

02:41:08.800 --> 02:41:11.576
just hate them. Um they're concerned

02:41:11.600 --> 02:41:13.256
about the safety. They're concerned

02:41:13.280 --> 02:41:16.280
about, you know, um the the um

02:41:17.120 --> 02:41:19.496
electronic, you know, mess on our

02:41:19.520 --> 02:41:22.136
streets that Justin Holidayiday loves.

02:41:22.160 --> 02:41:23.496
They're concerned that they're dangerous

02:41:23.520 --> 02:41:25.176
and they are concerned that the

02:41:25.200 --> 02:41:28.200
technology hasn't quite reached um and I

02:41:28.479 --> 02:41:30.375
know it's it's going there, but they're

02:41:30.399 --> 02:41:32.536
concerned that a lot of the um scooters

02:41:32.560 --> 02:41:34.216
are actually hired by drunk people that

02:41:34.240 --> 02:41:36.776
are inebriated and looking for a quick

02:41:36.800 --> 02:41:39.800
way um quick way home. Um I know the

02:41:40.160 --> 02:41:42.375
technology will move and there's going

02:41:42.399 --> 02:41:45.016
to be some sort of balance test which I

02:41:45.040 --> 02:41:47.736
saw when I was testing out the scooters.

02:41:47.760 --> 02:41:50.536
Um,

02:41:50.560 --> 02:41:52.536
I will spend a few more minutes thinking

02:41:52.560 --> 02:41:55.016
because if it was my vote for me, I'd

02:41:55.040 --> 02:41:57.656
say yes, let's do it. But I'm not here

02:41:57.680 --> 02:41:59.176
for me. I'm here to represent the

02:41:59.200 --> 02:42:01.415
residents and I believe unfortunately

02:42:01.439 --> 02:42:04.056
most of my residents um do not want

02:42:04.080 --> 02:42:07.080
this. So I will have to reflect their

02:42:07.359 --> 02:42:09.896
their views tonight. Thank you.

02:42:09.920 --> 02:42:11.976
Thank you, Councelor Jay. Any other

02:42:12.000 --> 02:42:15.000
councilors wish to speak to the motion?

02:42:15.920 --> 02:42:18.920
Yes, councelor Buckingham.

02:42:20.800 --> 02:42:23.800
So, concerns are raised with me about

02:42:25.680 --> 02:42:27.415
um

02:42:27.439 --> 02:42:30.439
electric scooters being left on foot

02:42:30.880 --> 02:42:33.256
paths and safety concerns and you know,

02:42:33.280 --> 02:42:36.280
I've seen it. You see a young person

02:42:36.319 --> 02:42:38.216
at speed without a helmet and it's

02:42:38.240 --> 02:42:41.240
worrying. Um, but I think the question

02:42:42.080 --> 02:42:43.816
is not

02:42:43.840 --> 02:42:46.455
whether

02:42:46.479 --> 02:42:47.896
we have the scooters or we don't have

02:42:47.920 --> 02:42:50.295
the scooters because if we don't have a

02:42:50.319 --> 02:42:52.056
scheme like this, there will still be

02:42:52.080 --> 02:42:54.616
scooters. They'll be private ones. It's

02:42:54.640 --> 02:42:57.640
how we actually um manage them, regulate

02:42:57.680 --> 02:42:59.736
them, and ensure people are using them

02:42:59.760 --> 02:43:02.136
in the way they're meant to be used and

02:43:02.160 --> 02:43:04.936
intended. And I think by supPorting a

02:43:04.960 --> 02:43:07.496
scheme like this, we're also investing

02:43:07.520 --> 02:43:09.176
in the technology that will make this

02:43:09.200 --> 02:43:12.200
mode of transPort safer. And demand for

02:43:12.880 --> 02:43:15.176
this type of transPort is only going to

02:43:15.200 --> 02:43:17.256
continue to increase as parking is more

02:43:17.280 --> 02:43:20.056
limited, as fuel is more expensive and

02:43:20.080 --> 02:43:21.816
as people experience other cost of

02:43:21.840 --> 02:43:24.616
living um

02:43:24.640 --> 02:43:27.640
pressures. So, I I thank Deputy Mayor

02:43:28.479 --> 02:43:31.415
for bringing the amended motion because

02:43:31.439 --> 02:43:33.176
I think it gets the balance right

02:43:33.200 --> 02:43:36.200
between um supPorting the people that do

02:43:36.800 --> 02:43:39.800
rely on this type of transPort and

02:43:39.840 --> 02:43:42.840
ensuring that it is um safe and doesn't

02:43:44.479 --> 02:43:46.056
impose

02:43:46.080 --> 02:43:49.080
um unnecessary burden upon people um

02:43:50.479 --> 02:43:53.479
moving around the municipality.

02:43:53.680 --> 02:43:55.176
Thank you, councelor Buckingham.

02:43:55.200 --> 02:43:58.200
Councelor Hardy.

02:44:02.640 --> 02:44:04.696
At this time, in my opinion, I cannot

02:44:04.720 --> 02:44:06.936
supPort this council's involvement in

02:44:06.960 --> 02:44:08.856
permitting hired e scooters in the City

02:44:08.880 --> 02:44:11.736
of Port Phillip. I've seen and heard of

02:44:11.760 --> 02:44:14.216
many, many incidents and some involving

02:44:14.240 --> 02:44:16.696
young people, some involving speed and

02:44:16.720 --> 02:44:19.016
dangerous driving in bike lanes. And

02:44:19.040 --> 02:44:21.176
here we are these companies, these large

02:44:21.200 --> 02:44:23.816
worldwide companies making  promises

02:44:23.840 --> 02:44:26.216
in relation to the technology. I'm not

02:44:26.240 --> 02:44:28.696
satisfied at this stage that these

02:44:28.720 --> 02:44:31.656
improvements can be made early. They

02:44:31.680 --> 02:44:34.216
cannot be made quickly and I'd rather

02:44:34.240 --> 02:44:35.976
look at this a bit further down the

02:44:36.000 --> 02:44:38.536
track to see if these companies can

02:44:38.560 --> 02:44:41.560
really um submit and commit to their to

02:44:41.920 --> 02:44:44.920
their promises.

02:44:45.279 --> 02:44:48.279
Thank you, Councelor Hardy. I believe

02:44:48.319 --> 02:44:50.455
all counselors have spoken except for

02:44:50.479 --> 02:44:52.856
one and that is me.

02:44:52.880 --> 02:44:55.576
Some of us love cars, some of us love

02:44:55.600 --> 02:44:57.816
bicycles, some of us love scooters. I

02:44:57.840 --> 02:45:00.840
love buses, trams and trains. And 

02:45:02.240 --> 02:45:05.240
this is around providing another form of

02:45:06.240 --> 02:45:09.096
transPort that improves the mobility and

02:45:09.120 --> 02:45:12.120
accessibility of our community. We have

02:45:12.640 --> 02:45:15.496
discussed at various points tonight the

02:45:15.520 --> 02:45:17.576
pressures around

02:45:17.600 --> 02:45:20.056
rising petrol prices. Not the first time

02:45:20.080 --> 02:45:21.576
we're seeing sharp rises of petrol

02:45:21.600 --> 02:45:23.496
prices, but probably also won't be the

02:45:23.520 --> 02:45:26.520
last. And also the consequences of that

02:45:27.840 --> 02:45:30.056
on cost of living and how it actually

02:45:30.080 --> 02:45:33.080
shifts the way people move around. I

02:45:33.120 --> 02:45:36.056
remember in fact it was my first year on

02:45:36.080 --> 02:45:37.816
the City of Marunda when petrol went

02:45:37.840 --> 02:45:40.216
from 99 cents in a liter to over a

02:45:40.240 --> 02:45:41.896
dollar. And it was actually one of the

02:45:41.920 --> 02:45:44.920
most significant  moments in creating

02:45:45.600 --> 02:45:48.216
modal shift towards sustainable forms of

02:45:48.240 --> 02:45:50.136
public transPort including public

02:45:50.160 --> 02:45:52.136
transPort.

02:45:52.160 --> 02:45:55.096
That was before the advent of e scooters

02:45:55.120 --> 02:45:57.496
and we will see a similar thing now as

02:45:57.520 --> 02:45:59.255
we're entering a climate where petrol

02:45:59.279 --> 02:46:01.976
prices are increasing. We are better off

02:46:02.000 --> 02:46:05.000
being in this game and regulating it and

02:46:05.279 --> 02:46:07.816
shaping how it actually operates in the

02:46:07.840 --> 02:46:10.536
wider market because as has been pointed

02:46:10.560 --> 02:46:12.216
out we unfortunately don't have

02:46:12.240 --> 02:46:15.176
jurisdiction over private scooters. But

02:46:15.200 --> 02:46:18.200
our involvement in this technology and

02:46:18.479 --> 02:46:20.776
in facilitating players in the market

02:46:20.800 --> 02:46:23.800
does help us shape the way that  this

02:46:24.240 --> 02:46:26.776
technology does evolve. And this is, you

02:46:26.800 --> 02:46:29.496
know, tremendous work in this council

02:46:29.520 --> 02:46:32.375
being bold and leading in an area where

02:46:32.399 --> 02:46:34.375
many other councils haven't actually

02:46:34.399 --> 02:46:37.255
developed an approach. So I commend 

02:46:37.279 --> 02:46:39.415
the work that's taken place both within

02:46:39.439 --> 02:46:41.656
the City of Port Phillip and also that

02:46:41.680 --> 02:46:43.736
leading thus far that we're actually

02:46:43.760 --> 02:46:45.576
seeking a collaborative approach with

02:46:45.600 --> 02:46:47.415
other councils. That's an example of

02:46:47.439 --> 02:46:49.496
leadership. it is one that we should be

02:46:49.520 --> 02:46:51.896
encouraging and it makes sense for us to

02:46:51.920 --> 02:46:54.776
be in this in this space to help guide

02:46:54.800 --> 02:46:57.335
how it develops as well. So I do commend

02:46:57.359 --> 02:46:59.016
 this motion and commend the work

02:46:59.040 --> 02:47:00.776
that's being put into it and certainly

02:47:00.800 --> 02:47:03.016
commend  the work in the alternate

02:47:03.040 --> 02:47:05.176
recommendation and strengthening the

02:47:05.200 --> 02:47:07.896
compliance and the expectations that we

02:47:07.920 --> 02:47:10.920
set on those that  we are seeking to

02:47:11.760 --> 02:47:13.656
procure services through the City of

02:47:13.680 --> 02:47:16.680
Port Phillip. This enables us to better

02:47:17.200 --> 02:47:19.496
 set the standards and ensure that

02:47:19.520 --> 02:47:21.576
when we go to market there are operators

02:47:21.600 --> 02:47:23.816
that meet clearly defined standards. I

02:47:23.840 --> 02:47:26.136
commend the work of Deputy Mayor Mes and

02:47:26.160 --> 02:47:27.896
my fellow colleagues who have helped

02:47:27.920 --> 02:47:30.375
shape this alternate recommendation. It

02:47:30.399 --> 02:47:33.016
is fantastic to see this level of

02:47:33.040 --> 02:47:34.936
collaboration to lead to better outcomes

02:47:34.960 --> 02:47:36.616
to our community and that is why I

02:47:36.640 --> 02:47:39.255
supPort this resolution and we'll move

02:47:39.279 --> 02:47:42.279
to the mover who may wish to close.

02:47:42.319 --> 02:47:45.016
Thank you Mayor. I do wish to close 

02:47:45.040 --> 02:47:48.040
briefly a couple of points. U we're

02:47:49.200 --> 02:47:52.200
talking about a technology and a method

02:47:52.319 --> 02:47:55.319
of mobility, micro mobility that is

02:47:56.399 --> 02:47:59.096
accepted around the world. It won't

02:47:59.120 --> 02:48:02.120
change. It  will grow.

02:48:02.800 --> 02:48:05.335
We have an opPortunity at this point in

02:48:05.359 --> 02:48:08.216
time to be part of the process to

02:48:08.240 --> 02:48:10.455
actually lead the process and direct the

02:48:10.479 --> 02:48:12.696
way we want it to happen within our

02:48:12.720 --> 02:48:14.696
community. The alternative is very

02:48:14.720 --> 02:48:17.576
simple. We'll just be part of all of the

02:48:17.600 --> 02:48:20.600
rest and we'll get what we're given by

02:48:20.960 --> 02:48:22.536
people who decide they're going to buy

02:48:22.560 --> 02:48:24.375
their own bikes, travel at whatever

02:48:24.399 --> 02:48:26.056
speed they like, and then there'll be an

02:48:26.080 --> 02:48:28.216
issue of enforcement. We won't be able

02:48:28.240 --> 02:48:30.056
to enforce

02:48:30.080 --> 02:48:33.080
 scooters, e- scooters or ebikes that

02:48:33.359 --> 02:48:35.976
are privately owned. That'll be left up

02:48:36.000 --> 02:48:37.736
to a police force that have got a few

02:48:37.760 --> 02:48:40.760
other issues besides e- scooters. We are

02:48:42.000 --> 02:48:44.536
at a point in time, an inflection point

02:48:44.560 --> 02:48:47.096
where we can make a difference in terms

02:48:47.120 --> 02:48:50.120
of what this contract looks like and how

02:48:50.720 --> 02:48:53.720
we deal with the the service providers.

02:48:54.000 --> 02:48:56.455
If we deal ourselves out of the game,

02:48:56.479 --> 02:48:57.976
you're going to get complaints and it

02:48:58.000 --> 02:49:00.616
won't be about complaints about eskeers

02:49:00.640 --> 02:49:02.295
lying around the place. It'll be worse

02:49:02.319 --> 02:49:05.319
than that. I prefer through this

02:49:06.160 --> 02:49:08.455
amendment and through the way we can

02:49:08.479 --> 02:49:11.096
manage this with our council officers. I

02:49:11.120 --> 02:49:14.120
prefer to lead what we're going to do,

02:49:14.640 --> 02:49:16.616
not to be a follower. That's what this

02:49:16.640 --> 02:49:19.640
is about. Of of course there will be

02:49:19.680 --> 02:49:22.295
issues. Of course, there will be

02:49:22.319 --> 02:49:24.455
disheartened people and and people that

02:49:24.479 --> 02:49:27.096
are affected negatively. It happens

02:49:27.120 --> 02:49:29.576
every day. We've got public transPort

02:49:29.600 --> 02:49:31.496
issues. We've got car issues. We, you

02:49:31.520 --> 02:49:34.216
know, people get killed in cars. These

02:49:34.240 --> 02:49:36.616
things happen. That's the reality. What

02:49:36.640 --> 02:49:39.496
we need to do is be part of the change

02:49:39.520 --> 02:49:42.375
and lead the change. We will be very

02:49:42.399 --> 02:49:45.399
unforgiving of any service contractor

02:49:46.000 --> 02:49:48.616
that doesn't provide the things that we

02:49:48.640 --> 02:49:51.576
require. them to do under the terms of

02:49:51.600 --> 02:49:54.600
this contract and this amendment goes to

02:49:55.600 --> 02:49:58.536
a number of those issues. So I say to

02:49:58.560 --> 02:50:00.696
councilors

02:50:00.720 --> 02:50:03.496
have a think about it. Do you want to be

02:50:03.520 --> 02:50:06.520
a part of the leading edge of this type

02:50:07.520 --> 02:50:09.896
of technology or do you want to be given

02:50:09.920 --> 02:50:12.776
it by someone else who may be not as

02:50:12.800 --> 02:50:15.415
good as we are at demanding the very

02:50:15.439 --> 02:50:17.976
best from our service providers. So, I

02:50:18.000 --> 02:50:20.856
just appeal to all of my fellow

02:50:20.880 --> 02:50:22.375
counselors.

02:50:22.399 --> 02:50:25.399
Just hesitate on some of your thoughts.

02:50:26.319 --> 02:50:28.696
This is good for us. This is good for

02:50:28.720 --> 02:50:30.856
our community because we'll manage it.

02:50:30.880 --> 02:50:32.616
Thank you.

02:50:32.640 --> 02:50:35.415
And  after that close, we have a

02:50:35.439 --> 02:50:37.335
motion that's been put to the vote. All

02:50:37.359 --> 02:50:39.976
those in favor

02:50:40.000 --> 02:50:42.536
we have councelor Tomman, Deputy may be

02:50:42.560 --> 02:50:44.856
m councelor Buckingham councelor

02:50:44.880 --> 02:50:46.936
Consolo, councelor Holidayiday and

02:50:46.960 --> 02:50:49.960
myself, Mayor Alex M. All those opposed

02:50:52.000 --> 02:50:55.000
councelor Jay and councelor Hardy. That

02:50:55.200 --> 02:50:57.816
motion is therefore carried.

02:50:57.840 --> 02:51:00.840
72

02:51:05.200 --> 02:51:08.200
brings us to item 11.1,

02:51:09.279 --> 02:51:11.736
the Port Melbourne special rate and

02:51:11.760 --> 02:51:14.760
charge scheme for 26 to 2031.

02:51:15.520 --> 02:51:17.576
You're still in the seat there, Mike

02:51:17.600 --> 02:51:19.415
Fisher. So,

02:51:19.439 --> 02:51:21.656
thank you.

02:51:21.680 --> 02:51:24.680
Do we have questions for this item?

02:51:25.520 --> 02:51:27.736
Yes, councelor Jay noting this is a Port

02:51:27.760 --> 02:51:30.760
Melbourne special road.

02:51:30.960 --> 02:51:33.960
Any questions for

02:51:34.319 --> 02:51:35.335
Port Melbourne?

02:51:35.359 --> 02:51:36.216
Yes,

02:51:36.240 --> 02:51:37.335
councelor Joe.

02:51:37.359 --> 02:51:39.816
Um I did want to take up a question on

02:51:39.840 --> 02:51:42.840
behalf of um one of the speakers, Nick

02:51:44.160 --> 02:51:47.160
Latris.  he had a question about can

02:51:47.279 --> 02:51:49.656
the Port Melbourne um sorry I'll just

02:51:49.680 --> 02:51:51.255
preface. I'm on the business reference

02:51:51.279 --> 02:51:53.576
group um and and and familiar with the

02:51:53.600 --> 02:51:56.600
traders. Um  Nick asked a question

02:51:57.200 --> 02:52:00.200
about um what the possibility was of a

02:52:00.399 --> 02:52:02.856
three-year term as opposed to a 5-year

02:52:02.880 --> 02:52:05.880
term and I just wanted to ask what the

02:52:06.720 --> 02:52:09.720
rules were around that

02:52:09.920 --> 02:52:11.656
 through you Mayor and thank you for

02:52:11.680 --> 02:52:14.680
the question. So in terms of um changing

02:52:15.359 --> 02:52:18.359
the term we would be needing to start

02:52:18.479 --> 02:52:20.696
again right at the back of the

02:52:20.720 --> 02:52:22.216
beginning. I think what we've done with

02:52:22.240 --> 02:52:25.240
the 5-year which is the the sort of best

02:52:25.600 --> 02:52:27.896
practice I suppose across the state with

02:52:27.920 --> 02:52:29.976
these sort of things is to provide that

02:52:30.000 --> 02:52:31.576
or the the request to provide that

02:52:31.600 --> 02:52:33.415
5-year term which provides certainty for

02:52:33.439 --> 02:52:35.576
the traders association in terms of

02:52:35.600 --> 02:52:38.295
planning administering us supPorting to

02:52:38.319 --> 02:52:39.976
set up the scheme which obviously takes

02:52:40.000 --> 02:52:42.136
time and effort and then them being able

02:52:42.160 --> 02:52:44.616
to roll out um their plan their their

02:52:44.640 --> 02:52:46.536
action plan and then get the benefit

02:52:46.560 --> 02:52:49.560
from that. So, I think we um have

02:52:50.000 --> 02:52:52.455
supPorted obviously that 5-year request

02:52:52.479 --> 02:52:54.536
because we feel that that does give that

02:52:54.560 --> 02:52:57.560
that longevity. Um and as I say to go

02:52:58.000 --> 02:53:00.375
back to a three-year, we would we would

02:53:00.399 --> 02:53:03.399
start back under the legislation again.

02:53:05.120 --> 02:53:06.696
I have a follow-up question in that

02:53:06.720 --> 02:53:09.096
regard.  in terms of setting up a

02:53:09.120 --> 02:53:12.120
special  rate scheme, what's involved

02:53:12.160 --> 02:53:13.736
in setting it up? like what is the time

02:53:13.760 --> 02:53:15.976
frame in terms of actually setting one

02:53:16.000 --> 02:53:19.000
up if we adjusted the time frames how

02:53:19.680 --> 02:53:21.096
much of that time would actually be

02:53:21.120 --> 02:53:24.120
taken up in the process noting that a

02:53:24.479 --> 02:53:27.255
lot of it is a statutory process as well

02:53:27.279 --> 02:53:28.856
through you may thank you for the

02:53:28.880 --> 02:53:31.255
question um it generally takes about a

02:53:31.279 --> 02:53:33.176
year it has to come to council on three

02:53:33.200 --> 02:53:35.656
occasions so therefore it's quite a

02:53:35.680 --> 02:53:38.680
lengthy period of time so therefore um

02:53:39.120 --> 02:53:42.120
based on um councelor Jay's

02:53:42.640 --> 02:53:44.536
you would be, you know, if you had a

02:53:44.560 --> 02:53:46.136
three-ear scheme, you'd be coming back

02:53:46.160 --> 02:53:49.160
to council, um, you know, very much, you

02:53:49.760 --> 02:53:51.576
know, soon into that period. So, a year

02:53:51.600 --> 02:53:53.656
and a half to two years into the scheme

02:53:53.680 --> 02:53:54.616
already.

02:53:54.640 --> 02:53:56.455
And, and just to follow up through you,

02:53:56.479 --> 02:53:58.936
Mayor, I think there's also the work

02:53:58.960 --> 02:54:00.936
before a lot of the formal process that

02:54:00.960 --> 02:54:02.856
the traders associations are doing

02:54:02.880 --> 02:54:04.936
themselves amongst the group and the

02:54:04.960 --> 02:54:07.960
traders to to build on the supPort or

02:54:08.080 --> 02:54:09.576
gather the supPort. So there's a lot of

02:54:09.600 --> 02:54:11.096
and we heard tonight I think a lot of

02:54:11.120 --> 02:54:13.736
the volunteer effort that goes into

02:54:13.760 --> 02:54:16.136
establishing that.

02:54:16.160 --> 02:54:18.776
Thank you. I saw councelor Consol's

02:54:18.800 --> 02:54:19.896
hand.

02:54:19.920 --> 02:54:22.455
Thank you. A question also about process

02:54:22.479 --> 02:54:25.335
um with the objections. If we were

02:54:25.359 --> 02:54:28.136
wanting a decision to remove some based

02:54:28.160 --> 02:54:30.936
on valid objections,

02:54:30.960 --> 02:54:33.096
would that be allowed at this part of

02:54:33.120 --> 02:54:34.856
the process to take out a couple that

02:54:34.880 --> 02:54:37.880
are not actually near the high street?

02:54:38.720 --> 02:54:41.496
um through you may and um Susie might be

02:54:41.520 --> 02:54:43.335
able to elaborate as well. Tonight we're

02:54:43.359 --> 02:54:45.576
hearing the objections. So this is a

02:54:45.600 --> 02:54:47.255
second part of the process. So we

02:54:47.279 --> 02:54:49.335
tonight we're receiving and and and

02:54:49.359 --> 02:54:52.359
hearing them before the decision on

02:54:52.880 --> 02:54:55.016
whether the scheme goes ahead which is

02:54:55.040 --> 02:54:58.040
to to come. So we wouldn't tonight be

02:54:59.680 --> 02:55:02.216
seeking to move anything. And there is

02:55:02.240 --> 02:55:04.455
um in the legislation there are some

02:55:04.479 --> 02:55:06.216
clear parameters about what we can and

02:55:06.240 --> 02:55:09.240
can't do in terms of moving or removing

02:55:10.319 --> 02:55:11.335
um

02:55:11.359 --> 02:55:13.816
properties out of the scheme area. So we

02:55:13.840 --> 02:55:15.736
would have to go go back and and do that

02:55:15.760 --> 02:55:18.760
work subsequent to tonight's meeting

02:55:19.359 --> 02:55:21.255
noted. I think it's just good for people

02:55:21.279 --> 02:55:23.176
who have objected who are seeing that

02:55:23.200 --> 02:55:25.255
we're seeing this that seeing that we're

02:55:25.279 --> 02:55:26.455
reading their objections what the

02:55:26.479 --> 02:55:26.856
options

02:55:26.880 --> 02:55:28.375
as a question council console.

02:55:28.399 --> 02:55:30.375
Yeah. Okay. Um, so is that the same for

02:55:30.399 --> 02:55:33.016
the decision a decision to reduce the

02:55:33.040 --> 02:55:36.040
amount if we were to be of that mind

02:55:38.240 --> 02:55:40.295
through you Mayor and thank you for the

02:55:40.319 --> 02:55:42.696
question. There are some limitations in

02:55:42.720 --> 02:55:45.720
the legislation. So we can remove some

02:55:47.439 --> 02:55:50.439
um however it can't increase um there

02:55:52.240 --> 02:55:55.240
can be no more than a 10 10% increase

02:55:55.520 --> 02:55:58.216
and also um it would have to be in

02:55:58.240 --> 02:55:59.896
response to a submission or objection

02:55:59.920 --> 02:56:02.136
that was received. So there are some

02:56:02.160 --> 02:56:05.160
limitations. We'd probably in some cases

02:56:05.439 --> 02:56:08.216
seek some um legal advice too to ensure

02:56:08.240 --> 02:56:10.136
that we're um acting within the

02:56:10.160 --> 02:56:12.536
legislation.

02:56:12.560 --> 02:56:14.696
And the last question was raised

02:56:14.720 --> 02:56:16.856
tonight. Can the funds roll over from

02:56:16.880 --> 02:56:19.176
year to year?

02:56:19.200 --> 02:56:22.200
 through you, Mayor. I think we we

02:56:22.399 --> 02:56:24.136
have a funding agreement with the the

02:56:24.160 --> 02:56:26.776
traders association and we want to see

02:56:26.800 --> 02:56:28.536
those funds spent within the year on the

02:56:28.560 --> 02:56:31.560
activities that they um set out to do.

02:56:31.840 --> 02:56:34.696
um if there is  activities or things

02:56:34.720 --> 02:56:37.176
that they are seeking to roll over, we

02:56:37.200 --> 02:56:39.896
would want a very clear plan on what

02:56:39.920 --> 02:56:41.415
they're going to do to spend that money

02:56:41.439 --> 02:56:43.896
because again we um have those

02:56:43.920 --> 02:56:45.736
requirements that they set out to do

02:56:45.760 --> 02:56:47.656
things. We understand things happen, but

02:56:47.680 --> 02:56:49.816
we want to see that they actually have

02:56:49.840 --> 02:56:51.656
have a have a good idea and a good clear

02:56:51.680 --> 02:56:53.335
plan of how they're going to spend those

02:56:53.359 --> 02:56:56.359
quickly. Councelor

02:56:56.399 --> 02:56:59.399
Timman,

02:56:59.760 --> 02:57:02.760
I just have got a question. It says that

02:57:03.760 --> 02:57:06.760
 the precinct has got 266 businesses,

02:57:07.200 --> 02:57:10.200
but the special rate and charge proposed

02:57:11.120 --> 02:57:14.120
schedule includes 376 properties.

02:57:14.960 --> 02:57:17.816
So there are it's obviously 110

02:57:17.840 --> 02:57:20.840
properties more than businesses. So, um,

02:57:22.399 --> 02:57:25.399
can you explain the who the 110

02:57:25.600 --> 02:57:28.600
properties are?

02:57:29.200 --> 02:57:31.896
, through you, ma'am. Um, what that

02:57:31.920 --> 02:57:34.295
relates to is so there's the properties

02:57:34.319 --> 02:57:36.936
that are within the scheme. Um, however,

02:57:36.960 --> 02:57:39.496
I think you're referring to the signed

02:57:39.520 --> 02:57:41.896
supPort of the businesses and that

02:57:41.920 --> 02:57:44.856
number is based on businesses that were

02:57:44.880 --> 02:57:47.880
available um and open um for the

02:57:48.720 --> 02:57:51.496
associations to speak to and seek

02:57:51.520 --> 02:57:53.976
supPort. So, that's where the difference

02:57:54.000 --> 02:57:57.000
um is in those numbers.

02:57:57.520 --> 02:57:58.936
So, if I understand there are more than

02:57:58.960 --> 02:58:01.960
266 businesses in the precinct.

02:58:02.960 --> 02:58:05.096
 that's correct. these ones were the

02:58:05.120 --> 02:58:07.976
ones that were available and open um for

02:58:08.000 --> 02:58:11.000
comment to provide sign supPort

02:58:11.840 --> 02:58:14.776
in terms of the figure to actually

02:58:14.800 --> 02:58:17.800
accept the rights um because you know

02:58:18.479 --> 02:58:20.455
obviously I'm aware I suppose the rules

02:58:20.479 --> 02:58:22.136
are the same for Atlan Street and Fitro

02:58:22.160 --> 02:58:24.776
Street. So there is supposed to be a you

02:58:24.800 --> 02:58:27.800
know percentage of  of supPort. So if

02:58:29.680 --> 02:58:31.976
you look at the figures of obviously the

02:58:32.000 --> 02:58:34.295
182 or 266

02:58:34.319 --> 02:58:37.255
 it is 68% but if you no one can

02:58:37.279 --> 02:58:38.696
challenge and say hey we should be

02:58:38.720 --> 02:58:40.936
actually checking and comparing this

02:58:40.960 --> 02:58:43.960
figure with the 376

02:58:44.160 --> 02:58:46.136
 so through you may so I think there

02:58:46.160 --> 02:58:47.896
there's two parts to some of these

02:58:47.920 --> 02:58:50.056
figures the the the traders association

02:58:50.080 --> 02:58:52.856
before we started the statutory process

02:58:52.880 --> 02:58:55.880
um were asked to go and get as much sign

02:58:57.120 --> 02:58:58.455
supPort as they possibly possibly can.

02:58:58.479 --> 02:59:01.479
So that's one figure. So um in the case

02:59:01.920 --> 02:59:03.576
of

02:59:03.600 --> 02:59:04.056
Melbourne

02:59:04.080 --> 02:59:07.080
 South Melbourne um they had a 57%

02:59:08.160 --> 02:59:11.160
sign supPort but this process we put the

02:59:11.680 --> 02:59:13.896
public notice out and then it's

02:59:13.920 --> 02:59:16.455
objection a submission and we then have

02:59:16.479 --> 02:59:19.479
a look and and receive objections or or

02:59:19.840 --> 02:59:22.375
submissions to that. So that's a a

02:59:22.399 --> 02:59:24.936
separate legislated process that we're

02:59:24.960 --> 02:59:27.960
now in which is about the 11% objection

02:59:28.880 --> 02:59:31.880
or thereabouts um to those who who have

02:59:32.479 --> 02:59:34.216
 you know have a have a valid

02:59:34.240 --> 02:59:36.375
objection to the to the notice that has

02:59:36.399 --> 02:59:37.816
been put out and put in front of the

02:59:37.840 --> 02:59:39.896
businesses

02:59:39.920 --> 02:59:42.920
and councelor Holidayiday

02:59:43.760 --> 02:59:45.576
 there was a question earlier about

02:59:45.600 --> 02:59:47.096
the

02:59:47.120 --> 02:59:50.120
some 30% of the  levy

02:59:51.520 --> 02:59:53.736
um special rate going towards

02:59:53.760 --> 02:59:55.496
administration

02:59:55.520 --> 02:59:58.375
or and I'm wondering whether that

02:59:58.399 --> 03:00:00.776
reflects administrative overhead or

03:00:00.800 --> 03:00:03.335
whether that is the engagement of a

03:00:03.359 --> 03:00:06.359
person to supPort the um you know the

03:00:08.800 --> 03:00:11.800
the the  entire area

03:00:13.600 --> 03:00:15.816
through you I'll start but Susie can can

03:00:15.840 --> 03:00:18.840
fill in but certainly the um the

03:00:19.600 --> 03:00:21.816
associations We have a coordinator an

03:00:21.840 --> 03:00:23.976
administrative coordinator who's

03:00:24.000 --> 03:00:25.335
actually working with businesses and

03:00:25.359 --> 03:00:27.656
doing a lot of administration work and

03:00:27.680 --> 03:00:29.896
and so some of that certainly is paying

03:00:29.920 --> 03:00:32.776
for that their officer time to carry out

03:00:32.800 --> 03:00:34.936
but they I think what we see from a lot

03:00:34.960 --> 03:00:37.335
of the traders associations that officer

03:00:37.359 --> 03:00:40.216
or that person does a lot of work on the

03:00:40.240 --> 03:00:42.375
street you know there's there's a lot of

03:00:42.399 --> 03:00:45.399
value out of what their time into that.

03:00:45.520 --> 03:00:47.816
Is there anything else to add? No, it's

03:00:47.840 --> 03:00:49.736
largely yeah those staffing costs and

03:00:49.760 --> 03:00:51.656
then extra administration from running

03:00:51.680 --> 03:00:53.976
an organization.

03:00:54.000 --> 03:00:54.216
I

03:00:54.240 --> 03:00:56.696
think I'll get in trouble for

03:00:56.720 --> 03:00:59.576
we met the balaclava coordinator. Um you

03:00:59.600 --> 03:01:01.176
know so I think we're familiar with that

03:01:01.200 --> 03:01:03.335
role. Um just another question here.

03:01:03.359 --> 03:01:06.136
What what exactly are the criteria for a

03:01:06.160 --> 03:01:09.160
property being removed from the

03:01:09.760 --> 03:01:12.760
from the special rates area

03:01:15.439 --> 03:01:17.415
for being able to be removed from it?

03:01:17.439 --> 03:01:19.016
What you know we've heard from people

03:01:19.040 --> 03:01:20.856
who say oh we're not a we're not a

03:01:20.880 --> 03:01:22.776
frontage business you know we you know

03:01:22.800 --> 03:01:24.616
our customers don't walk in off the

03:01:24.640 --> 03:01:27.640
street so this is of no value to us.

03:01:28.399 --> 03:01:30.056
So through you may so there's there's

03:01:30.080 --> 03:01:31.576
probably a couple of things. The first

03:01:31.600 --> 03:01:34.600
is in the areas there's benefit levels.

03:01:34.640 --> 03:01:36.536
So there might be a primary, secondary

03:01:36.560 --> 03:01:39.415
or even tertiary benefit level depending

03:01:39.439 --> 03:01:41.415
on how what's determined at the

03:01:41.439 --> 03:01:43.656
beginning. So some businesses that are

03:01:43.680 --> 03:01:45.896
not on the the the main frontage

03:01:45.920 --> 03:01:47.896
potentially or around the side may be

03:01:47.920 --> 03:01:50.056
seen as a second secondary benefit and

03:01:50.080 --> 03:01:52.776
have a different level of  special

03:01:52.800 --> 03:01:55.800
rate charge. And I think then that's the

03:01:56.399 --> 03:01:59.399
initial establishment. I think the

03:01:59.600 --> 03:02:00.536
removal you know

03:02:00.560 --> 03:02:03.496
the removal. So essentially special

03:02:03.520 --> 03:02:06.136
rates need to there needs to be a um

03:02:06.160 --> 03:02:08.056
they need to demonstrate benefit for a

03:02:08.080 --> 03:02:10.216
property and that can also be in the

03:02:10.240 --> 03:02:13.016
value of a property as well. So it is

03:02:13.040 --> 03:02:16.040
looking at um  properties where

03:02:16.399 --> 03:02:19.399
there's an objection and seeing if 

03:02:19.840 --> 03:02:22.840
the benefit isn't necessarily there. So

03:02:23.040 --> 03:02:26.040
an example could be um perhaps it's

03:02:26.479 --> 03:02:29.016
residential on the very fringes. That

03:02:29.040 --> 03:02:31.656
could be an example. Um but it's really

03:02:31.680 --> 03:02:33.896
about that being able to demonstrate

03:02:33.920 --> 03:02:36.920
benefit for that particular property.

03:02:38.479 --> 03:02:41.479
Any further questions on this item

03:02:43.040 --> 03:02:44.776
in which case we have a recommendation

03:02:44.800 --> 03:02:46.696
before us.

03:02:46.720 --> 03:02:48.616
Is there a mover? Moved. Councelor

03:02:48.640 --> 03:02:51.640
Consol. Seconded. Councelor Tamman.

03:02:52.640 --> 03:02:55.640
, does the mover wish to speak?

03:02:57.359 --> 03:02:58.616
Thank you. So, I acknowledge that

03:02:58.640 --> 03:03:01.176
tonight is hearing the supPort and

03:03:01.200 --> 03:03:04.200
objections for this concept and I I've

03:03:04.880 --> 03:03:07.016
read them all and I think it's really

03:03:07.040 --> 03:03:08.856
imPortant to hear the feedback because

03:03:08.880 --> 03:03:11.096
some make a lot of sense and some go,

03:03:11.120 --> 03:03:13.176
"Oh, why is that in it?" And so, I think

03:03:13.200 --> 03:03:15.176
we have further work to explore this

03:03:15.200 --> 03:03:17.896
before we  go to the next  step. But

03:03:17.920 --> 03:03:20.536
tonight's just  supPorting that we've

03:03:20.560 --> 03:03:23.016
received this and that it'll come back

03:03:23.040 --> 03:03:26.040
again on the 22nd of April. Um I a point

03:03:26.960 --> 03:03:28.295
I really want to make about these

03:03:28.319 --> 03:03:31.319
special levies is

03:03:31.439 --> 03:03:33.335
I agree that there are a lot of expenses

03:03:33.359 --> 03:03:36.295
that add up for businesses but rates in

03:03:36.319 --> 03:03:38.536
themselves go to the general council and

03:03:38.560 --> 03:03:40.455
we do general things. So Port moment

03:03:40.479 --> 03:03:41.816
does get some stuff but this is the

03:03:41.840 --> 03:03:44.375
opPortunity to invest directly into your

03:03:44.399 --> 03:03:46.536
precinct. I think that's the strongest

03:03:46.560 --> 03:03:49.096
thing way to think about it. This is a

03:03:49.120 --> 03:03:52.120
lot of money. $320,000 I believe it is

03:03:52.479 --> 03:03:55.479
that  can be utilized to make it

03:03:56.960 --> 03:03:59.576
worthwhile. And the current committee is

03:03:59.600 --> 03:04:01.335
doing a great job and coming up with

03:04:01.359 --> 03:04:03.415
ideas. They've evolved over the last few

03:04:03.439 --> 03:04:05.335
years. There's a new coordinator, new

03:04:05.359 --> 03:04:07.335
committee, newer some new committee

03:04:07.359 --> 03:04:09.096
members, everything. They're doing a

03:04:09.120 --> 03:04:10.136
really good job and they're working

03:04:10.160 --> 03:04:12.056
hard. There's a lot of volunteer hours

03:04:12.080 --> 03:04:14.136
put in by business owners and if other

03:04:14.160 --> 03:04:15.976
businesses want to have a say, have

03:04:16.000 --> 03:04:17.656
great ideas, please come along to the

03:04:17.680 --> 03:04:19.415
meetings. It's a great opPortunity to

03:04:19.439 --> 03:04:21.496
get to know what is going on, what your

03:04:21.520 --> 03:04:23.176
money's being spent on, and your

03:04:23.200 --> 03:04:26.200
opPortunity to suggest some um some make

03:04:26.800 --> 03:04:29.576
some suggestions. So again, this isn't

03:04:29.600 --> 03:04:31.176
meant to be a punishment. It really is

03:04:31.200 --> 03:04:33.335
about investing directly into your

03:04:33.359 --> 03:04:36.359
precinct. But I as the ward counselor,

03:04:36.399 --> 03:04:38.536
I'm happy to keep working making sure

03:04:38.560 --> 03:04:41.255
this is the right fit for the next five

03:04:41.279 --> 03:04:43.335
years if that's what we decide to do.

03:04:43.359 --> 03:04:45.415
Thank you.

03:04:45.439 --> 03:04:48.439
Does the second wish to speak?

03:04:48.720 --> 03:04:51.496
Um obviously in Sila we've got two

03:04:51.520 --> 03:04:53.496
schemes that are very similar. One with

03:04:53.520 --> 03:04:56.136
the street village and one with the Sila

03:04:56.160 --> 03:04:59.160
sorry the fit street traders. Um it is

03:04:59.520 --> 03:05:02.520
working well. Um, you know, I like the

03:05:02.640 --> 03:05:04.776
idea for traders to be taking

03:05:04.800 --> 03:05:06.936
initiatives  to do things for their

03:05:06.960 --> 03:05:09.176
precinct. So, it's not just all not just

03:05:09.200 --> 03:05:11.096
council or other things. Um, they've got

03:05:11.120 --> 03:05:13.816
a good coordinator who is  who is on

03:05:13.840 --> 03:05:15.896
the street and you know being a trader

03:05:15.920 --> 03:05:18.136
myself. if I know the work that's been

03:05:18.160 --> 03:05:21.160
done there and I you know I supPort 

03:05:22.560 --> 03:05:24.776
schemes like that because it can make a

03:05:24.800 --> 03:05:26.776
difference especially in the current

03:05:26.800 --> 03:05:29.576
economic climate and also it really

03:05:29.600 --> 03:05:31.896
makes people

03:05:31.920 --> 03:05:33.736
you know it gives them an ownership.

03:05:33.760 --> 03:05:36.136
They've got a shop in the street or in

03:05:36.160 --> 03:05:37.976
the precinct but it just gives them an

03:05:38.000 --> 03:05:40.216
ownership of the of the entire precinct.

03:05:40.240 --> 03:05:42.295
It gets people together in a committee

03:05:42.319 --> 03:05:43.896
and obviously there is a committee but

03:05:43.920 --> 03:05:45.496
there's obviously they don't have that

03:05:45.520 --> 03:05:47.736
much money to play with. Um so by

03:05:47.760 --> 03:05:50.375
actually raising this $320,000

03:05:50.399 --> 03:05:52.856
for the year they will be allowed to do

03:05:52.880 --> 03:05:55.255
festivals and street events and

03:05:55.279 --> 03:05:57.736
Christmas decorations

03:05:57.760 --> 03:06:00.616
and and other things  without and and

03:06:00.640 --> 03:06:03.640
I know that some people think um it's

03:06:04.479 --> 03:06:06.375
maybe you know it's not as transparent

03:06:06.399 --> 03:06:09.335
but it is transparent. council officers

03:06:09.359 --> 03:06:11.096
check the budget the way the money is

03:06:11.120 --> 03:06:13.736
spent etc etc even if some people

03:06:13.760 --> 03:06:15.415
sometimes see it's not the case you know

03:06:15.439 --> 03:06:17.896
we do all the check and balances and I

03:06:17.920 --> 03:06:20.295
know how

03:06:20.319 --> 03:06:23.319
you know careful and officers are to

03:06:23.760 --> 03:06:25.176
make sure that the right thing is done

03:06:25.200 --> 03:06:27.096
with the money that is collected as a as

03:06:27.120 --> 03:06:29.576
a special right so I encourage this it's

03:06:29.600 --> 03:06:31.255
a little bit of money for each business

03:06:31.279 --> 03:06:34.279
but it grows the po the pot and and then

03:06:34.960 --> 03:06:36.936
the the the you know they can actually

03:06:36.960 --> 03:06:39.176
do something significant that is

03:06:39.200 --> 03:06:42.200
beneficial to all of them in the street.

03:06:42.800 --> 03:06:44.776
Thank you, councelor Timman. Any other

03:06:44.800 --> 03:06:47.800
councilors wish to speak?

03:06:49.520 --> 03:06:52.520
As  one of the ward counselors for Bay

03:06:52.800 --> 03:06:55.800
Street, I will also speak in supPort of

03:06:56.399 --> 03:06:59.399
this motion. I have seen in other

03:06:59.680 --> 03:07:02.455
councils the results, the positive

03:07:02.479 --> 03:07:04.455
outcomes that come through special rate

03:07:04.479 --> 03:07:07.016
schemes. It helped transform Ringwood

03:07:07.040 --> 03:07:09.335
East Traders, Heathmont Traders and Main

03:07:09.359 --> 03:07:11.096
Street Cordon when I was on the City of

03:07:11.120 --> 03:07:14.120
Miranda. It is transformational in how

03:07:14.479 --> 03:07:16.536
it can actually really build a precinct

03:07:16.560 --> 03:07:19.560
and build a presence for our businesses.

03:07:19.600 --> 03:07:22.136
So yes, when this comes up, it feels

03:07:22.160 --> 03:07:24.696
like a sting and it is there there is a

03:07:24.720 --> 03:07:27.720
sting but the benefit that is returned

03:07:28.000 --> 03:07:29.896
through that

03:07:29.920 --> 03:07:32.920
is paid back in dividends to our traders

03:07:33.040 --> 03:07:36.040
and to our precincts. We have all 

03:07:36.160 --> 03:07:37.896
talked about how we want vibrant

03:07:37.920 --> 03:07:40.295
precincts across this council and many

03:07:40.319 --> 03:07:41.976
in the community have also expressed

03:07:42.000 --> 03:07:44.616
similar views. Special rate schemes are

03:07:44.640 --> 03:07:47.255
a way that  businesses can actually

03:07:47.279 --> 03:07:49.656
build a presence, build a brand, build

03:07:49.680 --> 03:07:52.536
our identity for our local precincts and

03:07:52.560 --> 03:07:53.976
this is one that should be

03:07:54.000 --> 03:07:57.000
wholeheartedly supPorted. So, 

03:07:57.040 --> 03:07:59.096
fantastic work from the Port Melbourne

03:07:59.120 --> 03:08:01.255
Business Association, from council

03:08:01.279 --> 03:08:03.496
offices in getting to this point. We're

03:08:03.520 --> 03:08:06.520
not there yet, but  this is the next

03:08:06.800 --> 03:08:09.415
step forward in

03:08:09.439 --> 03:08:11.176
accepting those submissions and

03:08:11.200 --> 03:08:13.415
responding in kind, but really seeing

03:08:13.439 --> 03:08:15.016
the positive outcomes that have created

03:08:15.040 --> 03:08:18.040
through it. I  we'll end there. So,

03:08:20.160 --> 03:08:23.160
any further speakers to the motion?

03:08:24.319 --> 03:08:26.455
Yep. Councelor Jay.

03:08:26.479 --> 03:08:28.616
Um this is one of the most highly

03:08:28.640 --> 03:08:31.335
legislated motions I've been a part of.

03:08:31.359 --> 03:08:33.335
It is very strict. There's very strict

03:08:33.359 --> 03:08:36.136
rules. We're not just slapping a search

03:08:36.160 --> 03:08:39.160
charge on on our um on our traders. So,

03:08:40.319 --> 03:08:42.536
um happy to be part of the next process

03:08:42.560 --> 03:08:45.016
now accepting these submissions and

03:08:45.040 --> 03:08:47.415
objections. So, thank you. Thank you for

03:08:47.439 --> 03:08:49.415
all the hard work. There's a lot of door

03:08:49.439 --> 03:08:51.496
knocking. There's a lot of signing. It's

03:08:51.520 --> 03:08:53.816
almost like campaigning. It's a massive

03:08:53.840 --> 03:08:55.896
process. And I've tried to distance

03:08:55.920 --> 03:08:57.736
myself as much as possible so I can

03:08:57.760 --> 03:08:59.896
remain neutral. But thank you for the

03:08:59.920 --> 03:09:02.455
for the team that that have done so

03:09:02.479 --> 03:09:04.136
much.

03:09:04.160 --> 03:09:07.160
Any further counselors wish to speak?

03:09:07.680 --> 03:09:09.656
In which case does the mover wish to

03:09:09.680 --> 03:09:12.616
close? The mover has put the motion. All

03:09:12.640 --> 03:09:14.856
those in favor?

03:09:14.880 --> 03:09:17.880
That motion is carried unanim.

03:09:18.880 --> 03:09:21.576
We're at that time of night where we

03:09:21.600 --> 03:09:24.600
need to look at extending the meeting of

03:09:24.960 --> 03:09:26.856
this council in line with provision 10.2

03:09:26.880 --> 03:09:29.816
two of our governance rules.  we can

03:09:29.840 --> 03:09:32.616
extend by 30 minutes.

03:09:32.640 --> 03:09:34.536
That motion has been put by councelor

03:09:34.560 --> 03:09:36.696
Consol. It is seconded by council

03:09:36.720 --> 03:09:39.720
Holiday. All those in favor that is

03:09:40.080 --> 03:09:42.216
carried. Procedural motion. So there's

03:09:42.240 --> 03:09:44.455
no debate.

03:09:44.479 --> 03:09:47.096
Thank you. And that brings us now to our

03:09:47.120 --> 03:09:50.120
next item on the agenda where we go

03:09:50.240 --> 03:09:52.616
through the same item again but for

03:09:52.640 --> 03:09:54.216
South Melbourne. Special rate and

03:09:54.240 --> 03:09:57.240
charges 26 to 31. Consideration of

03:09:57.279 --> 03:09:59.896
objections and submissions.

03:09:59.920 --> 03:10:02.920
Any questions unique to this item?

03:10:09.680 --> 03:10:12.680
No questions for this item in which case

03:10:12.800 --> 03:10:14.936
there is a recommend. Is there a

03:10:14.960 --> 03:10:17.335
question councelor to mine?

03:10:17.359 --> 03:10:20.359
My question is similar to the one before

03:10:20.479 --> 03:10:23.479
 is about the numbers of um the number

03:10:24.560 --> 03:10:27.560
of responses and the  and the 318

03:10:28.399 --> 03:10:30.056
commercial properties that is concerned

03:10:30.080 --> 03:10:33.080
and the fact that  you know when you

03:10:33.439 --> 03:10:36.375
look at it it's  out of the 226

03:10:36.399 --> 03:10:39.399
businesses only 129 have um supPorted

03:10:41.120 --> 03:10:44.120
it. So out of 318 commercial properties

03:10:45.200 --> 03:10:48.200
and only 129 have agreed to the scheme.

03:10:49.120 --> 03:10:51.896
So um

03:10:51.920 --> 03:10:54.216
is that a problem?

03:10:54.240 --> 03:10:57.016
So through you may so I think the that

03:10:57.040 --> 03:11:00.040
um as indicated in that first um answer

03:11:00.240 --> 03:11:03.176
the the the initial work the traders

03:11:03.200 --> 03:11:05.335
group had had done was to all the open

03:11:05.359 --> 03:11:07.576
businesses and so that that that number

03:11:07.600 --> 03:11:10.600
of for South Melbourne 57%

03:11:11.840 --> 03:11:13.976
um was the open businesses that's that

03:11:14.000 --> 03:11:15.816
what's we required them to do to be able

03:11:15.840 --> 03:11:17.736
to bring the scheme to council which

03:11:17.760 --> 03:11:19.976
they did the the next stage this

03:11:20.000 --> 03:11:22.375
legislative stage where we went out to

03:11:22.399 --> 03:11:24.455
all the businesses in the scheme and

03:11:24.479 --> 03:11:26.455
asked for put the public notice out and

03:11:26.479 --> 03:11:28.375
asked for objections or submissions to

03:11:28.399 --> 03:11:30.936
it which we received again around about

03:11:30.960 --> 03:11:33.960
that 11% objection. So that initial

03:11:35.040 --> 03:11:38.040
figure of 57 was the traders group going

03:11:38.800 --> 03:11:41.096
out um acknowledging this is a new

03:11:41.120 --> 03:11:43.656
scheme I should I should u compared to

03:11:43.680 --> 03:11:45.976
the Port Melbourne which is a a

03:11:46.000 --> 03:11:48.375
continuation or say continuation this is

03:11:48.399 --> 03:11:50.136
a brand new scheme. So the traders had

03:11:50.160 --> 03:11:52.295
done that initial work to gain supPort

03:11:52.319 --> 03:11:55.319
and got 57%.

03:11:56.000 --> 03:11:59.000
Any further questions?

03:11:59.840 --> 03:12:01.176
Yes, councelor Holidayiday.

03:12:01.200 --> 03:12:03.176
Sorry, just just to clarify that in that

03:12:03.200 --> 03:12:05.016
first outreach, did they need to reach

03:12:05.040 --> 03:12:08.040
50% of supPort to for it to progress?

03:12:09.920 --> 03:12:12.920
 through you, Mayor. Um, we do ask the

03:12:13.439 --> 03:12:15.255
associations if they're an established

03:12:15.279 --> 03:12:18.279
association to  reach at least 65%.

03:12:18.720 --> 03:12:21.720
For the newer ones, it's at 55%. We

03:12:21.840 --> 03:12:24.056
acknowledge that they haven't had enough

03:12:24.080 --> 03:12:26.776
time to um get some runs on the board.

03:12:26.800 --> 03:12:29.800
 so hence the difference in the in the

03:12:29.840 --> 03:12:32.840
science supPort percentages.

03:12:33.680 --> 03:12:36.680
Any further questions?

03:12:37.680 --> 03:12:39.496
All right. There's a recommendation

03:12:39.520 --> 03:12:42.520
before us. Is there a remover?

03:12:45.600 --> 03:12:47.736
The seconder is councelor Tamman. Does

03:12:47.760 --> 03:12:49.896
the mover wish to speak?

03:12:49.920 --> 03:12:52.375
Very briefly, I supPort this and I put

03:12:52.399 --> 03:12:55.399
it as soon as possible.

03:12:55.600 --> 03:12:57.496
Your supPort is noted. Does the second

03:12:57.520 --> 03:12:59.255
wish to speak?

03:12:59.279 --> 03:13:01.896
I think whatever I said before about 

03:13:01.920 --> 03:13:04.536
the the Port Melbourne applies here as

03:13:04.560 --> 03:13:07.560
well. And um um obviously this is a this

03:13:09.120 --> 03:13:12.120
is a request from the traders. Um I

03:13:12.720 --> 03:13:15.720
think South Melbourne were not as um if

03:13:16.240 --> 03:13:18.536
I understand they're not as organized as

03:13:18.560 --> 03:13:21.176
a traders association as as Port

03:13:21.200 --> 03:13:24.200
Melbourne and

03:13:24.800 --> 03:13:27.496
No, but they're not like  is there an

03:13:27.520 --> 03:13:29.415
error of fact in the Port of order or we

03:13:29.439 --> 03:13:29.896
continue?

03:13:29.920 --> 03:13:32.375
No. So the thing that I feel like it's

03:13:32.399 --> 03:13:35.335
um um obviously that there is no money

03:13:35.359 --> 03:13:37.255
so there's it's they're limited in what

03:13:37.279 --> 03:13:39.096
they can do. Obviously they did great

03:13:39.120 --> 03:13:41.736
job with the Porsche  thing for the

03:13:41.760 --> 03:13:43.896
Grand Prix with the supPort of council

03:13:43.920 --> 03:13:45.976
in the future. They don't have to ask

03:13:46.000 --> 03:13:47.255
council for money because they have the

03:13:47.279 --> 03:13:49.016
money to do it themselves. So it's they

03:13:49.040 --> 03:13:50.856
can do what they what they actually want

03:13:50.880 --> 03:13:53.176
to do without asking us. So I think it's

03:13:53.200 --> 03:13:55.896
a great again it's it just gets people

03:13:55.920 --> 03:13:58.920
together and get them thinking and  be

03:13:59.200 --> 03:14:02.200
mature  and do things that you know

03:14:02.800 --> 03:14:04.616
without having to ask us for grants and

03:14:04.640 --> 03:14:06.375
other things. So I think it's a

03:14:06.399 --> 03:14:08.936
imPortant thing. So obviously I'm a bit

03:14:08.960 --> 03:14:11.896
disappointed with the numbers  but

03:14:11.920 --> 03:14:14.776
hopefully they'll do a great job and 

03:14:14.800 --> 03:14:17.496
when it will come back um the numbers

03:14:17.520 --> 03:14:20.375
will be greater and u people will

03:14:20.399 --> 03:14:22.696
recognize no one no one wants to spare

03:14:22.720 --> 03:14:25.176
my money  but if they can actually see

03:14:25.200 --> 03:14:28.136
the benefits from that money and by

03:14:28.160 --> 03:14:30.936
actually having as much bigger pool 

03:14:30.960 --> 03:14:32.536
hopefully we'll create benefits for the

03:14:32.560 --> 03:14:34.776
precinct and that people will see the

03:14:34.800 --> 03:14:37.800
value in it and supPort it. Any

03:14:38.239 --> 03:14:40.056
other counselors wish to speak?

03:14:40.080 --> 03:14:41.976
Councelor Jay.

03:14:42.000 --> 03:14:45.000
Thank you, Mayor Min. Um,

03:14:45.760 --> 03:14:48.760
, Serge, just just to clarify, those

03:14:48.880 --> 03:14:50.776
numbers were of the 30th of September

03:14:50.800 --> 03:14:53.176
and I I believe there's been more since

03:14:53.200 --> 03:14:55.976
then. So, um, this is a consideration of

03:14:56.000 --> 03:14:58.776
the letters. Um,

03:14:58.800 --> 03:15:01.736
I do supPort the process. It's been very

03:15:01.760 --> 03:15:03.896
interesting. I have seen the difference

03:15:03.920 --> 03:15:06.136
between traders that  as a member of

03:15:06.160 --> 03:15:08.776
the business  reference group, I've

03:15:08.800 --> 03:15:10.536
seen a big difference between traders

03:15:10.560 --> 03:15:13.560
that have access to extra funding and

03:15:13.920 --> 03:15:16.776
then traders like um  the South

03:15:16.800 --> 03:15:18.856
Melbourne traders that have been really,

03:15:18.880 --> 03:15:20.375
you know, doing their best on the sniff

03:15:20.399 --> 03:15:23.399
of an oil rag. So, um I'm looking

03:15:23.520 --> 03:15:25.576
forward to see what the numbers u pull

03:15:25.600 --> 03:15:28.600
up like. I'm open for  traders to

03:15:28.960 --> 03:15:31.816
speak to me as they have um and at this

03:15:31.840 --> 03:15:33.976
stage I'll supPort this going into the

03:15:34.000 --> 03:15:36.536
next process.

03:15:36.560 --> 03:15:39.560
Any other councilors wish to speak?

03:15:40.560 --> 03:15:43.016
I will. When I first first moved into

03:15:43.040 --> 03:15:44.856
the City of Port Phillip, it was in

03:15:44.880 --> 03:15:47.096
2013. It was just when the South

03:15:47.120 --> 03:15:49.896
Melbourne Business Association  ceased

03:15:49.920 --> 03:15:52.920
as a traders association and  ever

03:15:53.279 --> 03:15:54.856
since then they've been trying to get it

03:15:54.880 --> 03:15:57.656
back. So the fact that they're at this

03:15:57.680 --> 03:16:00.536
process is really commendable to the

03:16:00.560 --> 03:16:03.335
organizers of  that committee that

03:16:03.359 --> 03:16:05.096
have come together and really looking at

03:16:05.120 --> 03:16:07.415
how to bring it back. The fact that we

03:16:07.439 --> 03:16:10.439
have traders who have spent so long

03:16:10.479 --> 03:16:13.479
bringing it back speaks to the value of

03:16:13.520 --> 03:16:15.976
 these schemes and I commend their

03:16:16.000 --> 03:16:17.976
efforts and the once again the efforts

03:16:18.000 --> 03:16:20.295
of council officers in getting it to

03:16:20.319 --> 03:16:22.375
this point and I wish them the best of

03:16:22.399 --> 03:16:24.536
success as they go through to the next

03:16:24.560 --> 03:16:27.176
stage of the process.

03:16:27.200 --> 03:16:29.016
Any other councilors wish to speak

03:16:29.040 --> 03:16:30.776
before we move back to the mover to

03:16:30.800 --> 03:16:33.576
close?

03:16:33.600 --> 03:16:35.496
You moved it. Hey, do you wish to close

03:16:35.520 --> 03:16:35.976
dep?

03:16:36.000 --> 03:16:38.455
Yes, I'll I'll close just briefly and I

03:16:38.479 --> 03:16:40.696
think the defining moment  where

03:16:40.720 --> 03:16:43.335
they've turned the corner and clearly

03:16:43.359 --> 03:16:45.016
ultimate success is coming their way

03:16:45.040 --> 03:16:47.335
when they've affiliated themselves with

03:16:47.359 --> 03:16:49.976
probably one of the greatest car brands

03:16:50.000 --> 03:16:51.976
in the world and that's the Porsche. So,

03:16:52.000 --> 03:16:55.000
every success and well done. Thank you.

03:16:55.920 --> 03:16:58.856
The motion has been put. All those in

03:16:58.880 --> 03:17:00.856
favor?

03:17:00.880 --> 03:17:03.880
That motion is carried unanimously.

03:17:04.640 --> 03:17:07.640
Well done.

03:17:08.239 --> 03:17:11.239
Should be giving some money to them.

03:17:11.520 --> 03:17:13.976
Let's move on to item 12.1, the

03:17:14.000 --> 03:17:16.375
Municipal Association of Victoria motion

03:17:16.399 --> 03:17:19.399
submissions. Any questions for officers?

03:17:20.880 --> 03:17:23.880
Yes, councelor Holiday.  are these

03:17:24.080 --> 03:17:26.056
submissions already finalized in this

03:17:26.080 --> 03:17:29.080
form or is there an opPortunity to for

03:17:30.239 --> 03:17:33.239
feedback here or are we locked in?

03:17:35.840 --> 03:17:38.840
 yeah, I'll answer this one um through

03:17:38.960 --> 03:17:40.455
you Mayor and thank you councelor

03:17:40.479 --> 03:17:42.375
Holidayiday. These are proposed so

03:17:42.399 --> 03:17:43.576
obviously councilors have the

03:17:43.600 --> 03:17:45.896
opPortunity tonight to um propose an

03:17:45.920 --> 03:17:48.920
amendment should they see fit. Um there

03:17:49.359 --> 03:17:52.359
is also a clause proposed under 3.2 that

03:17:53.120 --> 03:17:55.576
there is provision for the CEO or their

03:17:55.600 --> 03:17:57.896
delegate to make non material changes.

03:17:57.920 --> 03:18:00.776
Um the likelihood around the number of

03:18:00.800 --> 03:18:02.776
provisions that we are proposing to

03:18:02.800 --> 03:18:05.335
submit is that they would be submitted

03:18:05.359 --> 03:18:07.736
to the MAV and then consolidated with

03:18:07.760 --> 03:18:10.056
other like forlike

03:18:10.080 --> 03:18:12.536
um submissions as well. Also in terms of

03:18:12.560 --> 03:18:15.560
the actual wording, um it is likely

03:18:15.760 --> 03:18:18.295
whatever is accepted will not end up

03:18:18.319 --> 03:18:20.776
completely reflecting what we have here.

03:18:20.800 --> 03:18:23.335
 however, if councils wanted to pursue

03:18:23.359 --> 03:18:25.335
other advocacy

03:18:25.359 --> 03:18:28.359
um items, um tonight would be the night.

03:18:30.000 --> 03:18:32.215
Councelor Holiday,

03:18:32.239 --> 03:18:35.096
with apologies um and recognizing that

03:18:35.120 --> 03:18:37.576
we have seen these before. Um just

03:18:37.600 --> 03:18:40.056
picking up on Matthew's comments earlier

03:18:40.080 --> 03:18:43.080
about the um fitforpurposeness

03:18:44.080 --> 03:18:47.080
of the um the housing registar. We need

03:18:47.520 --> 03:18:48.696
to frame it as a question

03:18:48.720 --> 03:18:51.415
and whether there is an opPortunity

03:18:51.439 --> 03:18:54.439
in here in 3.1.7 strengthening

03:18:55.359 --> 03:18:57.255
strengthened homelessness responses,

03:18:57.279 --> 03:18:59.816
socializing access and rental stability

03:18:59.840 --> 03:19:02.840
to include advocacy for strengthening

03:19:03.200 --> 03:19:05.255
the role of the registra or a

03:19:05.279 --> 03:19:08.279
fitforpurpose body to advocate and

03:19:08.880 --> 03:19:11.880
represent social housing um residents.

03:19:14.640 --> 03:19:15.335
 three

03:19:15.359 --> 03:19:17.736
given it's a motion before us we can

03:19:17.760 --> 03:19:20.760
tailor those that recommendation if

03:19:20.800 --> 03:19:23.800
there's councelor supPort for it. Yes.

03:19:25.200 --> 03:19:26.696
So

03:19:26.720 --> 03:19:28.136
in that it would be subject to the

03:19:28.160 --> 03:19:29.736
mover.  the mover can move the

03:19:29.760 --> 03:19:31.736
officer's recommendation or an amendment

03:19:31.760 --> 03:19:34.760
or something different. Um if we sought

03:19:35.279 --> 03:19:36.616
to do that we could take a brief

03:19:36.640 --> 03:19:38.776
adjournment to word smith that

03:19:38.800 --> 03:19:40.536
additional provision if there was

03:19:40.560 --> 03:19:42.375
collective council supPort. The chair

03:19:42.399 --> 03:19:45.016
will decide but yes we will  we can

03:19:45.040 --> 03:19:47.096
take a brief adjournment should there be

03:19:47.120 --> 03:19:47.976
Yep.

03:19:48.000 --> 03:19:50.215
Wii with your permission Mayor I would

03:19:50.239 --> 03:19:52.856
like to move an alt wreck.

03:19:52.880 --> 03:19:53.976
Yep.

03:19:54.000 --> 03:19:56.776
Let's  do it. All right. Let's 

03:19:56.800 --> 03:19:59.800
Okay. Firstly  let's  get a call for

03:20:01.279 --> 03:20:03.736
an extension of time under 10.2 for

03:20:03.760 --> 03:20:06.295
another 30 minutes. I'm going to put

03:20:06.319 --> 03:20:09.096
that motion now. Carried.  sorry.

03:20:09.120 --> 03:20:10.536
Move. Councelor Consol. Seconded.

03:20:10.560 --> 03:20:13.560
Councelor J. That's been all those in

03:20:13.760 --> 03:20:15.816
favor

03:20:15.840 --> 03:20:18.215
that's carried. All right, let's 

03:20:18.239 --> 03:20:19.896
adjourn for 10 minutes so we can then

03:20:19.920 --> 03:20:22.696
discuss.

03:20:22.720 --> 03:20:25.576
All right, we are rejourning and we have

03:20:25.600 --> 03:20:28.600
a recommendation before us.

03:20:33.040 --> 03:20:35.576
Yep.  there is a minor officer

03:20:35.600 --> 03:20:38.600
amendment on this. Apologies councilors

03:20:38.800 --> 03:20:41.800
just for motion. um 3.1.4.

03:20:42.000 --> 03:20:44.455
We've just um updated from local laws

03:20:44.479 --> 03:20:47.176
offices to authorized officers um to

03:20:47.200 --> 03:20:50.200
reflect the intention of 3.1.4.1

03:20:50.960 --> 03:20:53.496
which um is more of a coverall for all

03:20:53.520 --> 03:20:55.176
authorized officers as opposed to

03:20:55.200 --> 03:20:58.200
specifying just local laws officers.

03:21:01.680 --> 03:21:04.680
Fantastic. We're comfortable. We have a

03:21:05.920 --> 03:21:07.896
recommendation before us. Is there a

03:21:07.920 --> 03:21:09.976
mover? It is moved by councelor

03:21:10.000 --> 03:21:13.000
Buckingham who is our MAV delegate

03:21:13.840 --> 03:21:16.840
H

03:21:17.600 --> 03:21:20.600
seconded councelor Holidayiday

03:21:21.520 --> 03:21:24.520
does the mover wish to speak

03:21:24.720 --> 03:21:27.656
thank you I'm very happy to move this

03:21:27.680 --> 03:21:30.680
recommendation tonight and I am pleased

03:21:30.720 --> 03:21:33.720
to see us bringing a raft of  motions

03:21:35.279 --> 03:21:38.279
to the MAV to then advocate onto to the

03:21:38.720 --> 03:21:41.720
Victorian government and take um

03:21:42.080 --> 03:21:43.896
strong stances on a range of issues that

03:21:43.920 --> 03:21:45.976
directly impact

03:21:46.000 --> 03:21:49.000
us here at the City of Port Phillip.

03:21:50.160 --> 03:21:51.896
I just want to acknowledge the amount of

03:21:51.920 --> 03:21:53.736
work that's gone into these proposals

03:21:53.760 --> 03:21:56.536
and that they do align and reflect with

03:21:56.560 --> 03:21:59.560
City of Port Phillip positions and um

03:21:59.920 --> 03:22:01.896
I'm looking forward to discussing them

03:22:01.920 --> 03:22:04.920
at the MAV in a couple of weeks time.

03:22:05.680 --> 03:22:07.176
Thank you. That had been moved by

03:22:07.200 --> 03:22:09.016
councelor Buckingham. Second, does the

03:22:09.040 --> 03:22:10.696
seconder wish to speak?

03:22:10.720 --> 03:22:12.696
, briefly, thank you, Mayor. Um, I'm

03:22:12.720 --> 03:22:15.176
very proud um of the work that has been

03:22:15.200 --> 03:22:18.200
done here and especially of our work

03:22:18.239 --> 03:22:21.239
here again leading the conversation

03:22:21.279 --> 03:22:23.656
advocacy for social cohesion across the

03:22:23.680 --> 03:22:25.496
state. I think this is great work um

03:22:25.520 --> 03:22:28.520
among all of the other  great

03:22:28.640 --> 03:22:31.496
initiatives here. So, um I'm super happy

03:22:31.520 --> 03:22:34.520
to supPort this. Any other councilors

03:22:35.359 --> 03:22:37.736
wish to speak?

03:22:37.760 --> 03:22:39.656
Yes, councelor J.

03:22:39.680 --> 03:22:41.255
Um, thank you for the great work in

03:22:41.279 --> 03:22:43.415
these motions. It certainly reflects a

03:22:43.439 --> 03:22:45.096
lot of conversations we've been having.

03:22:45.120 --> 03:22:48.120
There's some great ones here such as um

03:22:48.319 --> 03:22:50.375
the beach nourishment program and

03:22:50.399 --> 03:22:52.696
certainly protecting local law offices

03:22:52.720 --> 03:22:55.720
as um they are. So um appreciate this

03:22:56.160 --> 03:22:59.160
and will supPort.

03:22:59.200 --> 03:23:02.200
Any other councilors wish to speak?

03:23:03.840 --> 03:23:05.656
for  the public who haven't actually

03:23:05.680 --> 03:23:07.976
seen the MAV, it can often be a

03:23:08.000 --> 03:23:09.415
challenge sort of explaining it. So,

03:23:09.439 --> 03:23:11.496
we're a council of nine counselors.

03:23:11.520 --> 03:23:14.056
Imagine 79 councils in one room and that

03:23:14.080 --> 03:23:17.080
is  the MAV state conference. a really

03:23:17.200 --> 03:23:20.200
productive opPortunity to raise topics

03:23:20.319 --> 03:23:22.936
of interest to work with other councils

03:23:22.960 --> 03:23:25.960
in helping to frame the agenda  to in

03:23:26.560 --> 03:23:29.016
that case particularly across the sector

03:23:29.040 --> 03:23:31.335
but also to the state government as

03:23:31.359 --> 03:23:34.359
well. So really valuable work in 

03:23:34.479 --> 03:23:36.136
progressing priorities across local

03:23:36.160 --> 03:23:38.776
government and shared priorities.

03:23:38.800 --> 03:23:41.016
Does the mover wish to any other

03:23:41.040 --> 03:23:43.656
counselors wish to speak? In which case

03:23:43.680 --> 03:23:46.680
does the mover wish to close? The motion

03:23:46.880 --> 03:23:49.496
is being put in that case and that is

03:23:49.520 --> 03:23:52.455
carried unanimously

03:23:52.479 --> 03:23:55.479
and 12.1 is carried unanimously. Takes

03:23:55.920 --> 03:23:58.920
us now to item 12.2 council expenses

03:23:59.520 --> 03:24:02.520
monthly rePorting for February 2026.

03:24:03.120 --> 03:24:06.120
Any questions on this item?

03:24:08.560 --> 03:24:10.455
There are no questions on this item.

03:24:10.479 --> 03:24:11.976
There's a recommendation before us. We

03:24:12.000 --> 03:24:13.736
have a mover and councelor Tomman and

03:24:13.760 --> 03:24:16.760
seconded. Councelor Holidayiday.

03:24:17.439 --> 03:24:19.736
Does the mover wish to speak? Does the

03:24:19.760 --> 03:24:22.375
second wish to speak? Does any other

03:24:22.399 --> 03:24:25.399
counselor wish to speak?

03:24:25.760 --> 03:24:27.896
In which case, the motion is being put.

03:24:27.920 --> 03:24:30.920
All those in favor to 12.2 being carried

03:24:31.040 --> 03:24:34.040
that is carried unanimously.

03:24:34.960 --> 03:24:37.960
brings us now to item 13.1 the

03:24:38.640 --> 03:24:41.415
psychological sorry physiological and

03:24:41.439 --> 03:24:44.439
physioosocial hazards policy

03:24:45.040 --> 03:24:47.496
sorry psychological health and

03:24:47.520 --> 03:24:50.136
psychosocial hazards policy is there

03:24:50.160 --> 03:24:53.160
questions for this item

03:24:53.359 --> 03:24:54.056
yes

03:24:54.080 --> 03:24:57.080
councelor tamman

03:24:57.439 --> 03:25:00.439
um this is a new policy it's not the

03:25:00.720 --> 03:25:03.720
policy we had before is that correct

03:25:05.439 --> 03:25:07.816
through you, Mayor. , it's a revised

03:25:07.840 --> 03:25:09.656
policy. We've got an existing policy

03:25:09.680 --> 03:25:12.056
that is in in play. It's a revised

03:25:12.080 --> 03:25:13.976
version and it's slightly broader. It's

03:25:14.000 --> 03:25:15.976
now psychological health and

03:25:16.000 --> 03:25:18.056
psychosocial hazards where previously it

03:25:18.080 --> 03:25:20.696
was just referred to as the psycho 

03:25:20.720 --> 03:25:22.856
psychosological

03:25:22.880 --> 03:25:24.696
health policy

03:25:24.720 --> 03:25:27.720
and and do all councils have policies

03:25:27.760 --> 03:25:30.760
like that or is that sort of a kind of

03:25:31.200 --> 03:25:33.736
an oddity for the City of Port Phillip?

03:25:33.760 --> 03:25:36.295
 it through you may it would be

03:25:36.319 --> 03:25:38.696
varied. So it's not a legal requirement

03:25:38.720 --> 03:25:41.576
that all councils have it. Um, I

03:25:41.600 --> 03:25:43.415
couldn't tell you which one at this

03:25:43.439 --> 03:25:45.896
point.

03:25:45.920 --> 03:25:48.920
Any further questions for this item?

03:25:51.520 --> 03:25:53.576
, yes, you can. Councelor Holidayiday.

03:25:53.600 --> 03:25:55.176
Councelor Holidayiday is moving that

03:25:55.200 --> 03:25:56.856
recommendation. Councelor Tammani is

03:25:56.880 --> 03:25:59.880
seconded. Does the mover wish to speak?

03:26:01.359 --> 03:26:04.359
Does the secondary wish to speak

03:26:06.000 --> 03:26:08.455
briefly just to

03:26:08.479 --> 03:26:10.215
people don't necessarily understand or

03:26:10.239 --> 03:26:13.239
realize what are the things that u

03:26:14.479 --> 03:26:17.479
us as counselors or people working for

03:26:18.160 --> 03:26:21.160
this City go through  especially um

03:26:22.080 --> 03:26:24.536
through social media I don't think we've

03:26:24.560 --> 03:26:26.856
been aggressed in the street but it's

03:26:26.880 --> 03:26:29.816
more  having to deal with the keyboard

03:26:29.840 --> 03:26:32.840
wire areas um that you know um we get

03:26:33.200 --> 03:26:35.816
our share of  so I think it's good

03:26:35.840 --> 03:26:38.840
that   we take it seriously just in

03:26:38.880 --> 03:26:41.880
case it's needed um you know there is a

03:26:43.279 --> 03:26:45.576
 as counselors we have been given a

03:26:45.600 --> 03:26:48.600
number of someone we can call if we 

03:26:49.200 --> 03:26:52.200
if we have a problem um and need

03:26:52.239 --> 03:26:55.239
psychological help or  of well-being.

03:26:55.600 --> 03:26:57.335
So I think it's good that you know

03:26:57.359 --> 03:26:58.696
certainly something that didn't exist

03:26:58.720 --> 03:27:01.335
the last time I was at council. This is

03:27:01.359 --> 03:27:04.359
this is sort of a novelty. Um and it's

03:27:04.720 --> 03:27:07.335
good that it exists. So we actually have

03:27:07.359 --> 03:27:09.816
um you know I don't want to say you know

03:27:09.840 --> 03:27:11.896
people realize it's not the easiest job

03:27:11.920 --> 03:27:14.920
in the world. Um but at least  it's

03:27:15.600 --> 03:27:18.600
our psychological helps health is taken

03:27:20.160 --> 03:27:22.696
seriously  by our officers and so I

03:27:22.720 --> 03:27:25.720
think I commend  this  policy

03:27:28.000 --> 03:27:30.616
for the sake of our employees and for

03:27:30.640 --> 03:27:33.640
our own sake.

03:27:34.640 --> 03:27:37.640
Any further speakers to this item?

03:27:38.800 --> 03:27:41.656
In which case the motion is being Oh,

03:27:41.680 --> 03:27:44.616
sorry. Councelor Hardy.

03:27:44.640 --> 03:27:45.335
Indeed.

03:27:45.359 --> 03:27:47.096
I commend this document and I commend

03:27:47.120 --> 03:27:49.415
the CEO and his senior staff in relation

03:27:49.439 --> 03:27:51.576
to the revision of this document. It is

03:27:51.600 --> 03:27:53.415
very very close to my heart because I

03:27:53.439 --> 03:27:55.976
work with it every day and um thank you

03:27:56.000 --> 03:27:59.000
for taking care of us all.

03:27:59.520 --> 03:28:01.335
Thank you councelor Hardy. Any other

03:28:01.359 --> 03:28:03.736
councilors wish to speak in which case

03:28:03.760 --> 03:28:06.760
you does the mover wish to close?

03:28:06.880 --> 03:28:09.880
 thank you Mayor. Um I think Rod

03:28:11.920 --> 03:28:14.920
hit the nail on the head here. the this

03:28:15.600 --> 03:28:18.600
um this strategy

03:28:19.760 --> 03:28:22.760
policy sorry um reflects a grow growing

03:28:23.600 --> 03:28:26.455
awareness of psychological safety um and

03:28:26.479 --> 03:28:29.479
the impacts of um psychosocial hazards

03:28:29.920 --> 03:28:32.920
that people face in their everyday jobs

03:28:33.200 --> 03:28:35.736
and in their everyday lives. We might

03:28:35.760 --> 03:28:38.760
not realize the impacts of these. Um,

03:28:38.960 --> 03:28:41.255
you know, we might be lucky and have a

03:28:41.279 --> 03:28:43.255
role that does not expose us to them,

03:28:43.279 --> 03:28:45.176
but you know, people like our local laws

03:28:45.200 --> 03:28:47.736
officers, um, people like our staff in

03:28:47.760 --> 03:28:50.455
our libraries and on our front desks,

03:28:50.479 --> 03:28:52.696
and people like the police officers who

03:28:52.720 --> 03:28:55.720
maintain the law and order, um, and our

03:28:55.760 --> 03:28:58.295
nurses and ambulance drivers. These

03:28:58.319 --> 03:28:59.576
people are exposed regularly to

03:28:59.600 --> 03:29:01.896
psychosocial hazards. Um and it can have

03:29:01.920 --> 03:29:04.375
an incredibly detrimental effect on um

03:29:04.399 --> 03:29:06.776
on their lives to the extent that all of

03:29:06.800 --> 03:29:09.255
us are affected by the um impact of

03:29:09.279 --> 03:29:11.816
psychosocial hazards on the police force

03:29:11.840 --> 03:29:14.840
because we see the the struggles the

03:29:16.560 --> 03:29:18.696
police are having to just field

03:29:18.720 --> 03:29:20.215
officers.

03:29:20.239 --> 03:29:23.239
um is these impacts in real life and

03:29:23.680 --> 03:29:25.415
every community member is affected by

03:29:25.439 --> 03:29:28.439
that because we we see that through not

03:29:29.279 --> 03:29:31.576
being able to get the police to attend

03:29:31.600 --> 03:29:34.295
when something happens. So again, this

03:29:34.319 --> 03:29:36.616
is a serious problem and hopefully this

03:29:36.640 --> 03:29:39.640
um this  policy here

03:29:40.080 --> 03:29:42.295
sets out how we will tackle it and

03:29:42.319 --> 03:29:45.319
protect the psycho the the psychology

03:29:45.600 --> 03:29:48.600
the psychological health of our um our

03:29:48.720 --> 03:29:51.720
employees um and ourselves  in the

03:29:52.239 --> 03:29:54.616
world at the moment. So, um, good work

03:29:54.640 --> 03:29:57.640
and, , let's get this, , let's get

03:29:58.160 --> 03:30:00.536
this supPorted.

03:30:00.560 --> 03:30:02.455
In which case, the mover is closed. So,

03:30:02.479 --> 03:30:04.616
the motion has been put. All those in

03:30:04.640 --> 03:30:07.016
favor of the recommendation before us,

03:30:07.040 --> 03:30:10.040
that is carried and carried unanimously.

03:30:11.040 --> 03:30:13.335
We have no notices of motion tonight.

03:30:13.359 --> 03:30:16.056
So, that rounds off item 14. Item 15,

03:30:16.080 --> 03:30:18.215
rePorts by councelor delegates.

03:30:18.239 --> 03:30:20.455
Councilors, anyone wish to share rePorts

03:30:20.479 --> 03:30:23.479
from for this evening?

03:30:24.720 --> 03:30:25.096
H.

03:30:25.120 --> 03:30:26.536
It's on councelor J.

03:30:26.560 --> 03:30:29.560
Well, it's on the council rePort.

03:30:32.960 --> 03:30:35.960
We still got half an hour.

03:30:36.479 --> 03:30:38.696
I did the second extent.

03:30:38.720 --> 03:30:41.720
Councelor Jay, would you like to share?

03:30:42.479 --> 03:30:44.295
I will. I've been told it's not really a

03:30:44.319 --> 03:30:45.976
delegation, but I really enjoyed

03:30:46.000 --> 03:30:48.136
attending the St. Patrick's Day festival

03:30:48.160 --> 03:30:51.160
on Sunday at um O'Donnell Gardens. Um

03:30:51.840 --> 03:30:53.736
the Irish are very imPortant to this

03:30:53.760 --> 03:30:56.215
country and also St. Kilda. It is a ride

03:30:56.239 --> 03:30:59.176
of passage for many of them to

03:30:59.200 --> 03:31:00.936
um come and have a working and a

03:31:00.960 --> 03:31:03.496
drinking holiday here. So it was nice to

03:31:03.520 --> 03:31:05.176
be amongst the festivities. It was a

03:31:05.200 --> 03:31:07.335
really great um familyfriendly event and

03:31:07.359 --> 03:31:10.056
the weather was perfect.

03:31:10.080 --> 03:31:11.496
Thank you councelor Jay. Other

03:31:11.520 --> 03:31:14.520
counselors wish to share.

03:31:15.600 --> 03:31:18.056
I'm going to share.  I joined

03:31:18.080 --> 03:31:19.976
councelor Jay and councelor Timman at

03:31:20.000 --> 03:31:22.375
St. Patrick's Day and had the

03:31:22.399 --> 03:31:24.375
opPortunity in the opening speech to

03:31:24.399 --> 03:31:27.176
also welcome a Gabrielle Williams who's

03:31:27.200 --> 03:31:30.200
the minister for active and  public

03:31:30.239 --> 03:31:31.576
and active transPort and the minister

03:31:31.600 --> 03:31:33.656
for transPort infrastructure and gave

03:31:33.680 --> 03:31:35.176
good plug to one of her advocacy

03:31:35.200 --> 03:31:38.056
priorities being the 606 bus as well. So

03:31:38.080 --> 03:31:40.215
do thank the minister for her attendance

03:31:40.239 --> 03:31:42.936
at  St. Patrick's Day and also the

03:31:42.960 --> 03:31:45.176
local member Nina Taylor as well who

03:31:45.200 --> 03:31:48.136
joined me in the official proceedings of

03:31:48.160 --> 03:31:51.096
it. fabulously attended event and a

03:31:51.120 --> 03:31:53.656
great example of the power of our

03:31:53.680 --> 03:31:56.136
community in putting an event together.

03:31:56.160 --> 03:31:58.295
In official delegate rePorts, I will

03:31:58.319 --> 03:32:01.319
rePort on the M9. The City of Port

03:32:01.439 --> 03:32:04.375
Phillip is a member of the M9 being the

03:32:04.399 --> 03:32:07.399
nine inner City councils. We had a

03:32:07.920 --> 03:32:10.616
community safety public forum recently

03:32:10.640 --> 03:32:13.176
 with the police commissioner plus a

03:32:13.200 --> 03:32:16.200
number of peak community providers and

03:32:16.720 --> 03:32:19.415
that provided a great opPortunity to

03:32:19.439 --> 03:32:22.215
work with police and with community

03:32:22.239 --> 03:32:24.856
providers around a range of community

03:32:24.880 --> 03:32:27.880
safety aspects and also to share a range

03:32:27.920 --> 03:32:30.056
of community safety topics between

03:32:30.080 --> 03:32:31.736
councils.

03:32:31.760 --> 03:32:33.816
The good news is is the City of Port

03:32:33.840 --> 03:32:35.496
Phillip is not unique in the challenges

03:32:35.520 --> 03:32:37.656
that it faces. The bad news is that

03:32:37.680 --> 03:32:39.736
those challenges are shared across the

03:32:39.760 --> 03:32:42.215
sector. But what came out of that forum

03:32:42.239 --> 03:32:44.936
was a greater understanding for that

03:32:44.960 --> 03:32:47.335
need for collaboration both between

03:32:47.359 --> 03:32:49.736
local government as well as also between

03:32:49.760 --> 03:32:52.215
local government and community providers

03:32:52.239 --> 03:32:53.896
and local government and Victoria

03:32:53.920 --> 03:32:56.920
Police. And I think  to summarize what

03:32:57.200 --> 03:32:59.736
was a half-day forum in a couple of

03:32:59.760 --> 03:33:02.760
minutes, it really highlighted that role

03:33:03.120 --> 03:33:05.656
of local government as that closest

03:33:05.680 --> 03:33:07.896
layer of government to the community and

03:33:07.920 --> 03:33:10.295
how we can help facilitate that

03:33:10.319 --> 03:33:13.255
collaboration between community, police

03:33:13.279 --> 03:33:15.896
and  government.

03:33:15.920 --> 03:33:18.856
 the other aspect of the M9 is also

03:33:18.880 --> 03:33:21.880
the advocacy campaign around inner

03:33:22.239 --> 03:33:24.056
Melbourne actually being a growth zone

03:33:24.080 --> 03:33:26.136
and the high rates of growth in the

03:33:26.160 --> 03:33:29.160
order across the inner City  the M9

03:33:29.279 --> 03:33:32.279
council's 25% growth projections that

03:33:32.319 --> 03:33:34.375
compares actually to the same level of

03:33:34.399 --> 03:33:36.696
magnitude to the outer suburbs. So we

03:33:36.720 --> 03:33:38.856
hear a lot of the outer growth suburbs

03:33:38.880 --> 03:33:40.936
and they are growing but inner Melbourne

03:33:40.960 --> 03:33:43.335
is actually growing at a comparable rate

03:33:43.359 --> 03:33:45.415
and one of the key advocacy aspects from

03:33:45.439 --> 03:33:48.056
the M9 is how to actually demonstrate

03:33:48.080 --> 03:33:50.455
the need for funding streams to supPort

03:33:50.479 --> 03:33:52.936
that growth in the same way that growth

03:33:52.960 --> 03:33:54.776
is being supPorted in the cities of

03:33:54.800 --> 03:33:57.800
Windham  cities of Casey Cardinia and

03:33:58.319 --> 03:34:00.536
the City of Whittley and Hume in in the

03:34:00.560 --> 03:34:03.560
north and really looking at how we can

03:34:03.600 --> 03:34:06.600
come together in advocating for greater

03:34:07.120 --> 03:34:09.176
realization of the challenges of growth

03:34:09.200 --> 03:34:11.255
and how we have the funding streams from

03:34:11.279 --> 03:34:12.856
state and comwalth governments to

03:34:12.880 --> 03:34:15.736
supPort that growth as well. That wraps

03:34:15.760 --> 03:34:18.536
up my delegate rePort. Councelor Tomman,

03:34:18.560 --> 03:34:20.936
you wish to add?

03:34:20.960 --> 03:34:23.656
Yeah, I just like to um as the council

03:34:23.680 --> 03:34:26.680
rep on the arts acquisition

03:34:27.279 --> 03:34:28.856
committee or reference group, I don't

03:34:28.880 --> 03:34:31.656
know. I can't remember what it's called.

03:34:31.680 --> 03:34:33.976
Um I just wanted to we had a meeting a

03:34:34.000 --> 03:34:37.000
couple of weeks ago. Um we are welcome

03:34:37.120 --> 03:34:39.415
new members of the committee highly

03:34:39.439 --> 03:34:41.176
representatives

03:34:41.200 --> 03:34:43.816
 people who have art galleries and

03:34:43.840 --> 03:34:46.776
represent lots of artists. So, but um

03:34:46.800 --> 03:34:49.800
two things that um  the Louisa bricks

03:34:50.960 --> 03:34:53.960
statue  is progressing well and the

03:34:55.040 --> 03:34:57.415
other thing is that  the committee

03:34:57.439 --> 03:35:00.439
agreed to accept a gift of a painting by

03:35:03.359 --> 03:35:06.359
Andrew Sibli of Marilu Jelbar

03:35:07.200 --> 03:35:09.576
 which was an entry for the Archable

03:35:09.600 --> 03:35:11.656
in 96.

03:35:11.680 --> 03:35:14.680
Um and apart from the you know we do get

03:35:15.840 --> 03:35:18.840
 offers of paintings or other art to

03:35:19.600 --> 03:35:22.295
to be acquired  by the you know

03:35:22.319 --> 03:35:23.656
through the City of Port Phillip

03:35:23.680 --> 03:35:26.680
collection. But um I certainly felt that

03:35:27.760 --> 03:35:30.616
a painting of someone as significant as

03:35:30.640 --> 03:35:33.640
Marilu Jelba who was Mayor of St. Kilda

03:35:34.479 --> 03:35:37.479
back in the days who was  at the for

03:35:38.720 --> 03:35:40.856
you know who was there for put the

03:35:40.880 --> 03:35:42.696
Sincilla festival singular film festival

03:35:42.720 --> 03:35:45.720
in the DSplan market. So and I'm doing

03:35:46.239 --> 03:35:49.239
45 downstairs in the City. So I think 

03:35:49.359 --> 03:35:52.295
apart to actually have an archable price

03:35:52.319 --> 03:35:55.319
or archable entry  painting by a

03:35:55.439 --> 03:35:58.375
prominent painter like Andrew Sibi but

03:35:58.399 --> 03:36:01.399
the the having the the says Marilo Jelba

03:36:01.920 --> 03:36:04.455
as the subject is for me it was

03:36:04.479 --> 03:36:07.479
imPortant that the CDO Portfol accepted

03:36:07.520 --> 03:36:10.520
the gift especially as Marilu is

03:36:10.640 --> 03:36:12.696
suffering um you know not in great

03:36:12.720 --> 03:36:14.776
health and I'm sure she will be thrilled

03:36:14.800 --> 03:36:16.616
to to know that the painting has been

03:36:16.640 --> 03:36:19.096
accepted and is is going to enter the

03:36:19.120 --> 03:36:21.816
collection of the City Portfolio.

03:36:21.840 --> 03:36:24.136
Thank you councelor Tim for sharing 

03:36:24.160 --> 03:36:26.696
that insight into that  the art

03:36:26.720 --> 03:36:29.016
acquisition committee. Any further

03:36:29.040 --> 03:36:30.696
delegate rePorts from councilors here

03:36:30.720 --> 03:36:33.335
this evening

03:36:33.359 --> 03:36:35.816
in which case we will move on to urgent

03:36:35.840 --> 03:36:38.776
business. Any urgent business?

03:36:38.800 --> 03:36:41.800
The answer is no. We do have one

03:36:42.239 --> 03:36:44.056
confidential matter this evening being

03:36:44.080 --> 03:36:47.016
the co employment matters. So we will be

03:36:47.040 --> 03:36:49.736
closing the public component of this

03:36:49.760 --> 03:36:51.576
meeting. So we'll call on the councelor

03:36:51.600 --> 03:36:53.335
to move that the meeting be closed to

03:36:53.359 --> 03:36:55.016
members of the public to consider the

03:36:55.040 --> 03:36:56.776
confidential item this evening. Move

03:36:56.800 --> 03:36:59.176
councelor Buckingham seconded councelor

03:36:59.200 --> 03:37:01.736
Timman that motion will be put as a

03:37:01.760 --> 03:37:04.760
procedural motion and that is carried.

03:37:05.359 --> 03:37:07.576


03:37:07.600 --> 03:37:09.976
councelor Hardy

03:37:10.000 --> 03:37:11.816
are you voting? Yep that is carried

03:37:11.840 --> 03:37:13.816
unanimously. I did not see your hand

03:37:13.840 --> 03:37:15.576
there.

03:37:15.600 --> 03:37:17.736
in which case that motion is carried and

03:37:17.760 --> 03:37:19.896
we conclude the public part of tonight's

03:37:19.920 --> 03:37:22.056
council meeting. Thank you for those of

03:37:22.080 --> 03:37:25.080
you that stayed to the very end.

03:37:26.880 --> 03:37:29.880
Look forward to seeing you next time.