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our public gallery this evening both in

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person and online.

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Good to see you all.

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We're all officially seated. So, I can

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officially open tonight's meeting of

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council

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and council as always respectfully

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acknowledges our traditional owners and

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custodians of Kulin Nation. We

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acknowledge their legacy, spiritual

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connection to land, sea, waterways and

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country and pay our heartfelt respects

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to Elders past, present and emerging.

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The meeting tonight is being conducted

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in hybrid style, so you can watch us in

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person or online and is streamed via

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council's webcast page and Facebook

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live. Streams and recordings of council

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meetings are copyrighted and cannot be

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altered, reproduced or republished

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without the permission of council. If we

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experience any technical difficulties

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this evening, we will adjourn the

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meeting for a short time to resolve the

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issue. And do remind attendees of the

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public addressing council to please

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extend due courtesy and respect to

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council and the processes under which we

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operate and to take direction from the

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chair being myself whenever called to do

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so.

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I also ask attendees to please not

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approach counselors at their desk 

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during the meeting. So if you do have

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any documentation that you'd like to

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share, please distribute those to our

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governance team. They're to my right, to

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your left by the door. If there's any

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documentation, I know tonight we are

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hearing budget submissions. So if you

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have any documentation to support your

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submission, please submit that to the

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governance team and they will circulate

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that to us accordingly. And in the

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unlikely event of an emergency, don't

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listen to me. Listen to the governance

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team once again by the door and they'll

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give you all the direction that you

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need.

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Let's open tonight's meeting. Firstly,

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starting with apologies. Any apologies

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for this evening? I see that everyone's

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here, so I'm going to assume that's a

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no. I do, however, note that Chris

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Carol, our chief executive officer, is

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unable to attend tonight's meeting. and

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Brian T, our general manager of city

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development is assuming the role of CEO

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for tonight's meeting.

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 item two, minutes of our previous

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meeting. So councilors, the minutes of

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our meeting for the 6th of May, 2026

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have been circulated. Do we have any

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questions around these minutes?

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No questions. If not, can I have a mover

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to confirm? That's moved. Deputy Mayor

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Mears Seconded. Councelor Thomann being a

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procedural motion. We're putting that

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straight to a vote.

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All those in favor that is carried.

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Carried unanimously.

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Item three, declarations of conflict of

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interest.

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I have one and wish to declare a general

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conflict of interest in relation to item

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8.2. That's the advisory committee

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nominations due to a close association

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with some of the applicants contained in

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the recommendations. So during that

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item, I'm going to be removing myself

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from participating in this item and the

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deputy Mayor, Deputy Mayor Brian Mears will be

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assuming the role of the chair.

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Any other conflicts that we wish to

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declare for tonight's meeting?

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Going once, going twice, in which case

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we're moving on to item four, public

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question time and submissions. So now we

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hear public questions and submissions on

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report items. So under council's

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governance rules, public questions can

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only be asked about items not on the

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agenda and therefore public questions

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will be referred to an officer for a

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response. If you're speaking to an

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agenda item tonight, noting that we do

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have a budget submission hearings this

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evening, a counselor may wish to take

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that item up on your behalf when the

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item is being considered.

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Just a reminder that members of the

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public must not disclose another

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individual's personal or confidential

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information such as name, address, or

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other piece of information that would

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not be publicly available and would be

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considered private. And should anyone

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participating at tonight's meeting not

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take direction of the chair or comply

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with these directions, we do have the

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discretion to remove that person from

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the meeting.

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I will start with Franko. So  you'll

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have two minutes per speaker starting

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with your name and suburb. Welcome

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Frank. Welcome back.

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Frank Artus, Albert Park. If it's not

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visible on the street, road safety isn't

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working in the public interest. Question

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one, under governance rules 53.13

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and 54.5  54.5.

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What is the time frame for publishing

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responses to public and counselors

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questions taken on notice on the council

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website? I thank Mike Fischer, manager

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of city planning and sustainability for

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his responses within four working days

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to previous road safety questions.

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However, those responses are not visible

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on the council's website for the public

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record. Question two, before councilors

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consider adoption of the road map to

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zero strategy, when will the public

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receive the same summary of 540

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community consultation submissions prior

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to prior  provided to counselors?

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Question three, how can the community

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determine whether the final strategy

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reflects community feedback or other

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supporting empirical evidence if the

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consultation summary is unavailable

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before adoption? Question four, which

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Melbourne councils have implemented or

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trial 30 km an hour local road speed

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limits and what measurable safety

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outcomes have been recorded including

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reductions in casualties and ser serious

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injuries?

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Question five, which state and federal

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road safety grants are linked to

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adoption of the roadmap to zero strategy

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in the draft 2026-27

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budget and future budgets?

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Question six, which metropolitan

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councils adopting similar road safety

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strategies have sub have subsequently

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received increased road safety funding?

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Question seven, OST roads is the

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national peak body for roads standards

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safety and research. Their parts two,

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three, and seven road safety guidelines

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provide foundational context for the

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road map for zero. What additional

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evidence informed the strategy?

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You're always on time. So, well done.

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, the first question will be answered

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by James Gullen, our acting general

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manager of communication and governance,

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and then Mike Fischer, our manager, city

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of planning and sustainability, will

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answer the remaining questions. Great.

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, through you, Mayor, and thank you

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for the question, Frank. , under our

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governance rules 53.13

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and 54.5 where a question is taken on

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notice, a written response must be

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provided and published on council's

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website as soon as practicable. While

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the rules do not prescribe a fixed time

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frame, council officers aim to prepare

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and publish responses as promptly as

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possible. , and generally in advance

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of the next meeting wherever

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practicable. , this this approach

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supports transparency while ensuring

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responses are accurate and appropriately

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reviewed prior to publication.

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 if you do want to follow up and

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there's a specific question where you're

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awaiting an answer I'm very happy for

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you to contact me

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 through you mayor and thank you for the

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questions Frank  question two so the

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engagement summary has been completed

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and is it available on the council's

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have your say  web page this was

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posted in April and ensures the

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community has the same access to  has

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access to the same summary of

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consultation provided to the councilors

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ahead of consideration of the final

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strategy and I can provide you a copy of

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that  report Frank or a link if

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required.  question three  the

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engagement summary is available to the

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community and clearly outlines what we

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have heard from both qualitative that's

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open text comments and quantitative

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multiple choice responses.

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 the final roadmap to zero strategy

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will incorporate an engagement outcomes

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section outlining the key themes raised

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through consultation on how these themes

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have influenced the strategy. Question

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four a number of metropolitan

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Melbourne councils have introduced or

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trial 30 km an hour speed limits in

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local areas  particularly within

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activity centers or high pedestrian

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environments. These include  but are

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not limited to the city of Yarra, city of

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Melbourne and city of Stonnington

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evidence from these implementations as

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well as broader safety research

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indicates that lower speed environments

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are associated with reduced severity of

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crashes where they occur.  increased

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pedestrian and bike rider safety

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outcomes and increased perception of

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safety and street usability.

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I would note also that the me university

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accident research center evaluated the

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30 kmter an hour speed limit trial in

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the city of Yarra and their findings

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suggest that with widespread use 30 km

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an hour  local speed limits and

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residential local streets have promised

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to be a useful intervention for saving

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lives and serious injury to vulnerable

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road users and this is in residential

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areas.

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 which and  question five  road

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safety grants from state and federal

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funding streams generally require

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councils to demonstrate strategic

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alignment evidence-based planning and a

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clear commitment to improving safety

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outcomes.  this includes demonstrating

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alignment with the safe system approach.

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Adoption of the road mapap to zero

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strategy strengthens council's

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eligibility and competitiveness for a

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range of external funding opportunities

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including  state government road

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safety programs, federal road safety

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black spot and infrastructure grant

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programs and transport accident

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commission grant funding opportunities.

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Question number six,  a number of

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metropolitan councils have established

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road safety strategies including

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Stonnington, Maribyrnong, Darebin, Bayside

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and Mooney Valley however, I'm

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unable to provide a comment on their

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success in securing external funding for

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safety improvements. Um, as stated

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earlier, councils with a clear strategic

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framework are generally better

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positioned to access funding.

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 question number seven, the road map

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to zero strategy also aligns with

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national and Victorian vision zero road

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safety strategies and is based on the

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safe system principles. It also reflects

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of Victorian government's speed zone

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policy 2025 and ensures these approaches

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 these approaches are applied in a way

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that reflects local conditions in Port

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Phillip including street types and how

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people travel within the municip

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municipality. Thank you again for your

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questions.

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Thank you.

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Thank you Frank.  next  question is

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from Brady. Come on down.

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Welcome Brad.  your two minutes will

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start with your name and suburb and then

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you have two minutes.

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 Brad from St. Kilda. Thank you the

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opportunity to speak. Thank you Mayor

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counselors and officers of city of Port

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Phillip. This public question is

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directed to all those had a hand in the

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undoing of the longloved and established

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cafe. The B how we have managed to get

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here is beyond my understanding. I would

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expect that the council and the officers

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who duly represent the community like

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myself and the other 115,000 people

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approximately would have this happen in

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our backyard. I would have thought the

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council would be interested in

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preserving businesses around the already

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struggling Fitzroy Street. The

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revitalization of St Kilda's Ackland

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Street and Fitzroy Street is becoming a

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peacemeal joke amongst the community

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that you serve. The inability to take

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action has tainted the reputation of the

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community and businesses alike. A

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perfect example is of course the

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lackluster implementation of the round

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table we all know so much about. I do

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appreciate obviously the law change. Um

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where are our counselors to interface

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between the B and the landlord and the

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relevant departments to work a solution

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in mitigating the closure of the beloved

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establishment of 40 years. Instead a

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hangman in the form of the health

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department and the council forced the

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landlord's hand thus irreversibly

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closing the establishment without a

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second of thought. The B was a cafe, an

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icon of St Kilda with a proud history of

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40 years. Not many venues have that

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history in St Kilda. It was more than a

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cafe. It was a third space for our

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extended community, a place of depth and

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character in its staff and owners where

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the extended family and its premises was

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our second lounge room. I asked the

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question of officers and counselors,

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what steps have you taken to help both

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the tenant and a landlord resolve this

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issue?

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Thank you. The response will be provided

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by Brian T, our general manager of city

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development.

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Thank you and through you, ma'am. Thank

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you, Mr. Abby, for your  question and

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sharing your concerns and while I

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may not agree with some of the

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assumptions in your question, I do share

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 your sadness at the seeing of a

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long-standing venue of this

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long-standing venue close I'd also

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say that council has a proud record of

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providing significant business support

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and resources to our traders  to help

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them succeed. , but in addition to

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that responsibility to traders, we also

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have a responsibility and indeed a legal

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regulatory and compliance obligation to

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ensure that buildings meet required

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safety and building standards. And in

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this case, significant compliance issues

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were identified within the building that

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created an extreme risk to the life,

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safety, and health of the occupants of

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the building and indeed the surrounding

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residents.

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These were formally communicated to both

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the owner and the occupier. Legally and

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morally, we could not do we could not

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stand by.  we had to act to protect

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staff, the building residents and our

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community. The decision to close the

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premises was ultimately a matter between

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the occupier and the tenant.  we do

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understand  that the owners decided to

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address the issues to achieve full

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compliance with the building safety

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standards. Um and we sincerely hope that

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these works are undertaken expeditiously

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so business and activity can return to

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the site.

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Thank you very much for your response.

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That  concludes our public questions.

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So now we'll move to speaking to an

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agenda item beginning with item 13.1

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plan for Port Phillip including the

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budget 25 to35 year 2 and the hearing of

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committee feedback. So, similar drill

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here. You have two minutes  once you

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begin starting with your name and

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suburb. And we're going to begin with

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April Seymour. Come on down.

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Name and suburb. And then two minutes.

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Welcome, April.

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April Seymour, St. Kilda East. Kids from

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Port Melbourne, South Melbourne, Elwood,

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Albert Park. indigenous elders, teens

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building their job skills, confidence

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and CV in a tough economy.  Jane from

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Gardening Australia, corporate teams

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from St. Kilda Road rolling up their

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sleeves to volunteer and people chatting

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in English, Spanish, Hindi, Osland.

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These are some of the people that you

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might meet if you come to the Port Phip

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Eco Center coming together to care for

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nature, climate, and community

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well-being. The Ecoenter has been a

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community-led environmental hub since

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1999. We are an independent,

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nonpartisan, and multiddisciplinary

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organization supported each year by more

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than 2,800 community volunteers looking

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to make a meaningful difference. Last

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year, council along with Victorian

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government launched a purpose-built

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ecoenter facility. It models world

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leadership green design standards. And

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this beautiful building is now rostered

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seven days a week with education,

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citizen science, community meetings,

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leadership trainings, health support

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groups, and volunteer-led activities

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like the monthly repair cafe with the

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Jewish ecological coalition preventing

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textile landfill and e-waste through

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exit fix expert fix it support.

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Together, we take action such as

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planting 13,000 native plants in local

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neighborhoods and auditing more than

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300,000 litter items from storm water

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drains upstream of Port Phillip to try

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and design solutions before it pollutes

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our beaches and serves locals the

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cleanup costs. As a result of their

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experience, 92% of ecoenter participants

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choose new environmental actions.

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Participants say, quote, "The ecoenter

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made me feel more connected to my

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community and that quote, issues are

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explained in a very accessible way by

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welcome and knowledgeable staff."

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Welcoming and knowledgeable staff. So,

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thank you for supporting the community's

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ecoenter counselors. We ask for your

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continued partnership, including the

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weekends, for more guests to each

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resident, student, volunteer, or

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decision maker who arrives at the eco

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center curious or concerned and ready to

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make a meaningful difference.

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Thank you, April. Right on time. Good

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use of two minutes. Well done. Next

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speaker is Lin Tran. Come on down.

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Welcome Lynn. Starting with your name

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and suburb and then two minutes.

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 Lind Tran Port Melbourne.  thank

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you for the opportunity to speak at this

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council budget meeting. I feel that it

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is imperative that the eco center

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continues to be supported by local

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community and council so that it may

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continue its work in research, education

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and ongoing environmental projects in

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partnership with hundreds of schools and

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organizations. I've lived in Port

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Melbourne since mid 2020 and have been

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involved with the ecoenter since I moved

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to the area. The ecoenter provides a

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place for members of the community to be

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involved in community environment

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projects for cleaner, greener

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neighborhoods. Council funding for

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ecoenter staff helps ensure volunteer

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activities are inclusive, organized,

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safe, compliant, empowering, and fun. In

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the last three years, I've not been able

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to continue full or even part-time paid

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employment due to my ongoing chronic

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health issues. Being involved with the

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ecoenters's gardening group as a

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volunteer has given me a sense of

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purpose and belonging that I have found

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difficult to cultivate on my own. It has

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allowed me the opportunity to meet other

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members of the community, form

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connections and relationships which

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contributes to my overall sense of

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well-being and balanced mental health

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while I endeavor to look after myself.

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Having moved here during the pandemic,

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isolation and loneliness still permeates

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my life. However, this has now eased

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with my involvement with the ecoenter. I

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see the benefits it brings to others and

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the joy they experience with cultivating

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a garden and taking ownership for their

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efforts. We all love the eco center

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programs and the new facilities

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supported by council. I'm grateful for

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council's funding to support the center

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to see this continue. I've also

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immensely enjoyed the outreach work that

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our group has been involved with to help

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others not notably in the garden of the

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Salvation Army youth service and

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supporting native plantings in Albert

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Park and Balaclava. Thank you for your

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time and please keep funding the

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ecoenter operations so that the

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important work they do for the community

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for the community continues.

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Thank you Lynn.

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Thanks

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and thank you for sharing that personal

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anecdote as well.

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Next speaker is Mini Badwage. Come on

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down.

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Your two minutes starts with your name

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and suburb. Welcome.

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Minakshi from Silda Road. I'm also

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co-founder of Share and Swap Shop, a

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community initiative in circular

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economy. Before I start and say

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something, I would like to share few

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numbers that tells my story. 38

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community swap events, nearly 4,000

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participants sharing around 7,000 items,

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diverting around 3.5 tons of usable

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resources from landfill and recognition

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through keep Victoria Beautiful

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sustainability award in waste category.

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A proud milestone for our wider port

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Philip community. But beyond the data,

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what I'm most proud of is the human

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impact. Through this initiative,

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families freely access clothes, books,

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toys, rescued food. Neighbors who may

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not never have crossed their paths are

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now connected. This journey began right

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right here through Port Phillip Ecoenter

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Leadership Program in 2023. went to

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local residents with a vision to reduce

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waste and  and decided to become a

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part of the solution and turn ideas into

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the grassroot action. So, thank you for

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this amazing program. I also want to

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sincerely thank the Port Philip Ecoenter

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which believed in our vision from day

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one by providing free venue access and

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ongoing logistic support. Their addition

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of weekend opening hours has been a

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gamecher for working participants and

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families allowing our swaps to welcome

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around 100 participants every time as a

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part of the ecoenter share and repair

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weekend. We hope council will continue

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to fund ecoenter including weekends for

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events like sharance workshop. At a time

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when households are facing both climate

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anxiety and cost of living pressure,

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initiatives like these show that

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sustainability can also strengthen

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community resilience, inclusion, and

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connection. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Our next speaker is Bernie Marshall.

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Come on down.

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Welcome. Two minutes starting with your

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name and suburb. Welcome, Bernie. Bernie

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Marshall, resident of Corfield, but 

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still a portfayer

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um after having moved recently. Um I'm

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here as part of a group of the new board

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from St. Kilder Police and Citizens

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Youth Club. PCYC was established in 1947

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as a social enterprise to support young

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people in this LGA, particularly at risk

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young people, and it has carried on that

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task now for that nearly 70 years. When

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the previous board decided  in August

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last year that it would close the

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facility, close the gym, um there was a

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significant community response to that.

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 right through from ch parents of

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primary school age children,

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kindergarted age children who all use

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the facility through to people in their

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70s and 80s who use the facilities

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regularly.

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The users of this facility are a very

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diverse group. This is not a normal

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suburban gym. The first time I walked in

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there, there was a group of grandparents

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with their little kids while they did a

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boxer size class. There were people with

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significant physical disabilities being

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supported to be physically active in the

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gym area. It was clear that there were

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people who were in very significant

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financial difficulties, if not homeless,

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who were also being supported to have

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physical activity. This was a social

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enterprise unlike any other gym. It's

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not a commercial gym. It's a charity 

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organization.

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Following the community response  the

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AGM in February, a new board was 

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elected. Every one of whom has a strong

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connection with S Kilda PCYC. And we

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bring with us a great deal of experience

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in governance, in financial management,

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in business operations, in community, in

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youth work and in health and exercise

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physiology. We are a very experienced

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and dedicated board and we've set it up

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 in processes to ensure the long-term

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financial viability of the organization

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and that will be detailed by other

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speakers in our group tonight.

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Thank you Bernie. Right on time.

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Caroline Thton is our next speaker. Come

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on down.

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Welcome Caroline. Starting with name and

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suburb and then two minutes.

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Caroline Thornton St Kilda. I'm the

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school council president at St Kilda

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Primary School. After a public campaign

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for funding to build a community hall at

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St Kilda Primary, the school will

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receive over $13 million from the state

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government to upgrade the oval and

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construct a competition grade gymnasium.

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We are thrilled by being able to provide

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the community with a basketball and

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netball facility. Having received

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interest from both a community

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basketball association and a local club

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seeking to use our space for nights a

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week once built. This project will help

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address a significant gap in community

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infrastructure. However, if the building

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proceeds solely as a gymnasium rather

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than the broader multi-purpose community

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venue that was originally campaigned

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for, providing facilities for the arts,

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bringing people together, strengthening

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community connections, and supporting

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health, well-being, and active

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lifestyles, it risks becoming a missed

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opportunity for our wider community. We

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are incredibly grateful for the for

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council's advocacy and partnership in

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securing state government funding in a

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densely populated area where

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opportunities for council to acquire

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land for new community infrastructure

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are limited. This project presents a

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rare opportunity for collaboration

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between council and the state government

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to deliver something with even greater

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long-term community benefit. My question

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to council is, would council consider in

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future budgets working with the state

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government and contributing financially

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toward upgrading the proposed facility

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into a true multi-purpose venue,

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including performing arts and flexible

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community use spaces

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so that it can meet the needs of a

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broader cross-section of our community.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Caroline.

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Our next speaker is Rodney Gilbert. Come

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on down.

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Yeah.

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Starting with your name and suburb and

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then two minutes.

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Yeah.  Rod Gilbert, Melbourne.  I'm

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the CEO of the National Theater here in

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St Kilda, 105year-old heritage listed

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building on the corner of Barclay Street

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and Carl Street. Um

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this is one of Port the city of Port

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Phillips  largest community

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institutions and  largest cultural

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institutions. I'm here tonight to

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respectfully request  your support for

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$70 to $90,000 co-investment in the

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restoration of our heritage facade and

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public bathrooms. These works benefit

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not just the  the national but the

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entire precinct and community. This is a

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$2.4 million project. $1.86 million is

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already secured from the federal

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government, the state government,

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private philanthropy, and our own

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contribution. Your investment completes

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this and it also unlocks a further

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$50,000 from the Bow and Masten

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Foundation. The National is not only a

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performance venue, but it's also home to

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the National Ballet School, the National

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Drama School, which together  welcome

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more than 500 students through its doors

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every week, training dancers, actors

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from the age of three to adults, 6 days

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a week, all year round. These students,

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their families, now 110 annual audience

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members depend on this building daily.

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This case for these works is undeniable.

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Over four years, we have lodged more

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than 50 Victorian police incident

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reports around the building. Ongoing

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vandalism, graffiti, and drug use not

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only affect the national, but they

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affect the Jelbert reserve and the

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broader community.

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Without these works, the continued

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deterioration of the heritage fabric

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will not only lead to greater damage.

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Significantly higher costs down the

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track and an ongoing safety risk and

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eyesore to the St. Kilda community. A

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restored well-lit facade directly

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addresses these concerns for our

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students, our audiences, our 100 staff

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um every resident and visitor who uses

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the precinct. This building is one of

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Sincara's most visible landmarks. It

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deserves to look like it. As a board and

00:28:22.080 --> 00:28:23.816
leadership team, we've pursued every

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available funding avenue and channel to

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get to where we are today. The final

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council investment  will help get this

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across the line. We have the plan. We

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have the community behind us. We just

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simply asked council to join us. 

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formal submissions have been already

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presented in advance. Thank you.

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Thank you. Right on time. Good work.

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Glenn McCann is our next speaker.

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Welcome.

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Hello Glenn. Starting with name and

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suburb and then your two minutes will

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commence.

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 good evening. Thank you. My name is

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Glenn McCann  from S Kilda PCYC.  I

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live in Windsor. Um S Kilda PCYC was

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founded in 1947.  we're nearly their

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70th  anniversary. We're an

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incorporated association that primarily

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exists to support the young people of

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the  city of Port Phillip.

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 the PCYC provides outreach support, a

00:29:35.520 --> 00:29:37.336
safe drop in space for young people,

00:29:37.360 --> 00:29:39.736
school holiday programs, an indoor

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basketball court, and a community gym.

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When the gym was open, the PCYC was used

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by approximately 120 young people per

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week.  the PCYC is still operating its

00:29:51.279 --> 00:29:53.416
youth programs today and we we have five

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programs operating.  those programs

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are are currently supported in part by

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city of Port Phillip  also by the

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department of families  fairness and

00:30:03.360 --> 00:30:06.056
housing um and also by Stonington

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Council.  we employ two qualified

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youth workers who provide specialist

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support  to young people who are

00:30:13.120 --> 00:30:16.120
particularly at risk.  we also 

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support the broader  community 

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particularly vulnerable people  people

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with Parkinson's disease, older people

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 and NDIS users.

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Um the PCYC  when it was open with our

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gym operating we had  400 members.

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Half of those members were concession

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card holders.

00:30:37.760 --> 00:30:40.760
 P  Sincilda PCYC  facility,

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services and community impact are very

00:30:43.120 --> 00:30:45.416
aligned  to the city of Port Phillips

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priority areas including a healthy and

00:30:48.320 --> 00:30:51.015
connected community, a vibrant and

00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:53.336
thriving community and a safe and

00:30:53.360 --> 00:30:56.135
livable city.  we are grateful for

00:30:56.159 --> 00:30:57.655
your support. Thank you.

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Thank you, Glenn.

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Our next speaker is Tammy Ladano. Come

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on down.

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Two minutes starting with your name and

00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:11.015
suburb. Welcome.

00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:12.856
Thank you. My name is Tammy Ladano. I'm

00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:15.336
the treasurer at St Kilda PC YC and also

00:31:15.360 --> 00:31:17.576
a resident of city of Port Phillip. So

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I'm here to talk about St Kilda PC YC

00:31:19.760 --> 00:31:20.936
and what we're doing to make it

00:31:20.960 --> 00:31:23.015
financially viable which is key in

00:31:23.039 --> 00:31:24.535
supporting our youth programs and the

00:31:24.559 --> 00:31:26.456
wider community. But if I start with

00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:28.375
some background, the gym was closed in

00:31:28.399 --> 00:31:31.015
August 2025. It was a key source of

00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:32.775
recurring revenue which supported our

00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:34.696
young people by providing financial

00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:36.696
support to our youth programs. The

00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.015
programs are now running at a loss. The

00:31:39.039 --> 00:31:40.456
closure of the gym has rendered the

00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:42.616
important youth services untenable with

00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:44.936
without regular gym income to support

00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:46.775
the current shortfall we're seeing is

00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:49.576
$12,000 a month. Having the gym closed

00:31:49.600 --> 00:31:51.416
since August 25, we're now projecting

00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:53.255
we'll exhaust its cash resources by

00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:56.216
March 2027 and unable to support these

00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:58.375
youth programs. to be financially

00:31:58.399 --> 00:32:00.535
viable. We are reopening the gym as a

00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.616
social enterprise. There's appetite from

00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:05.416
members based on recent survey results

00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.736
um to return to the gym and pay higher

00:32:07.760 --> 00:32:10.216
membership fees with discounted fees for

00:32:10.240 --> 00:32:12.216
concession holders and youth members.

00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:13.816
We're developing a new operating model

00:32:13.840 --> 00:32:15.895
and organizational structure with

00:32:15.919 --> 00:32:17.576
stronger volunteer workforce that brings

00:32:17.600 --> 00:32:19.336
a range of skills to the organization

00:32:19.360 --> 00:32:22.360
and provides sustainable staffing. We're

00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:24.296
building on support from our members and

00:32:24.320 --> 00:32:26.216
establishing dedicated roles responsible

00:32:26.240 --> 00:32:28.056
for philanthropic and community

00:32:28.080 --> 00:32:30.216
fundraising. We're going to continue

00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:31.895
with our comprehensive spending review

00:32:31.919 --> 00:32:33.495
where we've already identified a number

00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:35.336
of cost-saving opportunities that will

00:32:35.360 --> 00:32:37.255
be implemented and we'll be improving

00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:39.895
our PCYC lottery revenue by switching to

00:32:39.919 --> 00:32:41.655
the New South Wales scheme as an

00:32:41.679 --> 00:32:43.895
alternative to lottery used by ACT and

00:32:43.919 --> 00:32:46.696
Tasmania PCYC. So, we're seeking the

00:32:46.720 --> 00:32:48.375
council support as a key partner in

00:32:48.399 --> 00:32:50.775
preserving St. Cod PCYC's future in two

00:32:50.799 --> 00:32:53.576
priority areas. One in operating costs,

00:32:53.600 --> 00:32:55.576
which will cover us for the 12,000 that

00:32:55.600 --> 00:32:57.576
we're losing every month until we bridge

00:32:57.600 --> 00:32:59.816
that PCYC youth program shortfall until

00:32:59.840 --> 00:33:01.895
the gym revenue can provide sustainable

00:33:01.919 --> 00:33:03.736
funding. We're looking at building

00:33:03.760 --> 00:33:06.535
maintenance as well as ongoing. This

00:33:06.559 --> 00:33:08.375
investment will preserve youth youth

00:33:08.399 --> 00:33:10.775
services, reactivate a community asset,

00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:13.015
and create a pathway to financial

00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:16.039
sustainability. Thank you. Thank you.

00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:19.015
Thank you, Tammy. Our next speaker,

00:33:19.039 --> 00:33:22.039
Philip Seymour, over to you.

00:33:27.919 --> 00:33:29.416
Two minutes starting with your name and

00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:30.856
suburb. Welcome.

00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:33.176
Hello, I'm Philip Seymour. I'm a board

00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:36.200
member at PCYC and I live in St. Kilda.

00:33:37.120 --> 00:33:40.120
 we do have a a number of modest 

00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:41.976
building maintenance and compliance

00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:45.000
issues at 179 Increment Street that need

00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:47.976
to be resolved before we can reopen the

00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:50.375
gym to both our members and the local

00:33:50.399 --> 00:33:51.895
community.

00:33:51.919 --> 00:33:53.895
A list of urgent things that need to be

00:33:53.919 --> 00:33:55.816
resolved has already been submitted to

00:33:55.840 --> 00:33:57.416
council.

00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:00.440
 we need to do this as it as we must

00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:03.015
provide a so training environment for

00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:05.096
both our members and the local

00:34:05.120 --> 00:34:06.616
community.

00:34:06.640 --> 00:34:08.135
Once these building maintenance and

00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:10.855
compliance issues are resolved, we can

00:34:10.879 --> 00:34:13.736
then reopen the gym and start gen

00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:16.536
generating income which is important for

00:34:16.560 --> 00:34:18.456
financially supporting our youth

00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:21.416
programs. Thank you.

00:34:21.440 --> 00:34:23.575
Thank you, Phillip. Our next speaker,

00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:26.599
Victoria Hardcup,

00:34:31.520 --> 00:34:33.416
name and suburb and then two minutes.

00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:36.440
I'm Victoria Hardcup. I'm 33 years 

00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:40.119
resident and worked in Elwood and St

00:34:40.240 --> 00:34:43.240
Kilda. Um I'm on the new board at PCYC.

00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:48.280
I'm um responsible for volunteers and I

00:34:49.919 --> 00:34:52.919
h we have engaged um Mark Campbell who

00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:56.456
is the founder of Club Map which is a

00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:59.480
consulting firm for not for profofits to

00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:02.760
um advise us on how to build a a truly

00:35:03.359 --> 00:35:06.359
sustainable work force from a volunteer

00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:10.119
um body which we are engaging in at this

00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:13.880
moment. So um we also recently took a

00:35:14.240 --> 00:35:17.240
survey to the members who had we've kept

00:35:18.480 --> 00:35:21.480
in touch with and they were very very

00:35:22.240 --> 00:35:25.240
keen to return and were very prepared to

00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:27.815
pay more for their membership which was

00:35:27.839 --> 00:35:30.839
very encouraging but also more

00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:33.575
importantly they were rather keen to

00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:36.599
volunteer in some way so to help reduce

00:35:37.200 --> 00:35:39.176
our costs.

00:35:39.200 --> 00:35:42.200
So, we're we're building a strong

00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:45.496
sustainable volunteer base to rebuild

00:35:45.520 --> 00:35:48.520
this safe space that it has that has

00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:51.800
served the community for so many years.

00:35:52.720 --> 00:35:55.720
the youth programs

00:35:55.760 --> 00:35:57.335
and

00:35:57.359 --> 00:36:00.359
what the the way they have provided so

00:36:01.839 --> 00:36:04.536
much to the youth in St Kilda which we

00:36:04.560 --> 00:36:07.016
may or may not see but the evidence is

00:36:07.040 --> 00:36:10.040
there that they work the community of

00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:13.320
Port Phillip really want their PCYC

00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:16.760
space back thanks very much

00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:20.440
thank you Victoria

00:36:20.560 --> 00:36:23.496
Carolyn Ellen is our Next speaker, come

00:36:23.520 --> 00:36:26.520
on down.

00:36:27.520 --> 00:36:29.575
Welcome Caroline. Two minutes with your

00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:31.815
name and suburb to begin.

00:36:31.839 --> 00:36:34.839
Thank you. Caroline Allen, St. Kilda,

00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.440
where I live, work, and volunteer.

00:36:40.000 --> 00:36:41.896
For the past three plus years, I've

00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:44.136
facilitated the climate cafe at the Port

00:36:44.160 --> 00:36:46.216
Phip Ecoenter.

00:36:46.240 --> 00:36:49.240
Thank you, council, for providing pilot

00:36:49.359 --> 00:36:51.256
funding for weekend openings at the

00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:53.736
Ecoenter. That means you've made

00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:56.216
possible Saturday afternoon climate

00:36:56.240 --> 00:36:59.240
cafes. With our new Saturday 1 p.m.

00:36:59.520 --> 00:37:02.216
time, more attendance opportunities are

00:37:02.240 --> 00:37:03.976
possible for parents with young

00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.616
children. Our new weekend time is a

00:37:06.640 --> 00:37:09.416
familyfriendly time, and that means more

00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:11.256
opportunity for folks to combine

00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:13.736
enjoyment of the gardens and surrounds

00:37:13.760 --> 00:37:16.760
with a visit to our cafe. It also means

00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:19.335
easier access for folks with mobility

00:37:19.359 --> 00:37:21.095
challenges who can safely and

00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:23.896
independently travel in daylight and

00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:26.920
also for older folks like me who rely on

00:37:27.440 --> 00:37:30.136
frequent public transport schedules or

00:37:30.160 --> 00:37:33.016
gentle not daylight walking. And it

00:37:33.040 --> 00:37:35.656
means more newcomers to the area who are

00:37:35.680 --> 00:37:38.680
exploring St Kilda on the weekends

00:37:38.720 --> 00:37:40.936
looking for new resources and

00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:43.960
discovering the ecoenter open. And then

00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:46.296
within the eco center, they can

00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:49.256
experience our climate cafe as a safe

00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.416
and welcoming place to make first

00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.055
contacts in their new home with folks

00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:56.776
who share their concern and their care

00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:59.800
for the environment and for our future.

00:37:59.920 --> 00:38:02.376
And continue those conversations into

00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:05.400
the gardens. Our weekend gatherings are

00:38:05.599 --> 00:38:08.599
now fuller and more diverse

00:38:09.359 --> 00:38:11.656
and more multigenerational

00:38:11.680 --> 00:38:14.680
than weekn night cafes are able to be.

00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:16.856
And that means we can offer a richly

00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:19.575
widening experience of connection and

00:38:19.599 --> 00:38:22.456
community. And in these changing

00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:25.480
challenging times, knowing where one can

00:38:25.520 --> 00:38:28.520
find welcoming connection and community

00:38:28.560 --> 00:38:31.560
matters even more. I'd be very happy to

00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:33.976
share more about the community value of

00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:37.000
climate cafes another time, but better

00:38:37.200 --> 00:38:40.200
yet, do come to a cafe. They're unique

00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:43.800
and much appreciated. Until then, on

00:38:44.000 --> 00:38:46.536
behalf of the cafe, please accept our

00:38:46.560 --> 00:38:47.335
gratitude.

00:38:47.359 --> 00:38:48.376
Thank you, Caroline.

00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:49.896
Thank you.

00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.920
Stevie is our next speaker.

00:38:59.520 --> 00:39:01.095
beginning with your name and suburb and

00:39:01.119 --> 00:39:03.575
then two minutes. Welcome.

00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:05.095
Hi,

00:39:05.119 --> 00:39:08.119
 Stevie Archer. Um

00:39:08.720 --> 00:39:11.575
newly appointed board member at PCYC.

00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:14.376
Also, my speech isn't going to be as

00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:17.335
polished as everyone else's. Um I'm

00:39:17.359 --> 00:39:19.335
speaking from personal experience and

00:39:19.359 --> 00:39:22.359
it's going to be a lot raarer. Um, I

00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:25.496
first started going to PCYC about 20

00:39:25.520 --> 00:39:28.376
years ago. Um, attending boxing classes

00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:31.335
at a crossroads in my life. Um, I was a

00:39:31.359 --> 00:39:34.359
recovering drug addict. I was had fled a

00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:38.280
domestic vi violence situation. Um, I

00:39:39.040 --> 00:39:41.896
ended up going on to

00:39:41.920 --> 00:39:44.856
work at PCYC on the reception and then

00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.880
becoming a personal trainer. Um they

00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:49.976
gave me an opportunity that a lot of

00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:52.616
organizations probably wouldn't have at

00:39:52.640 --> 00:39:55.640
the place in my life that I was. Um but

00:39:56.240 --> 00:39:59.240
it allowed me to start building

00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:02.456
um on workplace skills and my confidence

00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:05.416
um and it has now led me to my career as

00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:07.416
a business analyst.

00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:10.440
Um,

00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:13.736
I've worked on many youth programs and

00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:16.055
they are amazing, but they're more of a

00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:18.776
gateway. Um, they help build connection

00:40:18.800 --> 00:40:21.016
and trust, but that's not where the

00:40:21.040 --> 00:40:23.575
magic happens. It's when the kids would

00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:26.599
come to PCYC. In those walls is where

00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.280
the magic happened. Um, they would come

00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:32.536
and talk to you. They're not going to

00:40:32.560 --> 00:40:34.856
open up on a program with all of their

00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:36.616
peers around them.

00:40:36.640 --> 00:40:38.696
in the middle of a park or something

00:40:38.720 --> 00:40:41.720
like that. So, um, a a story that always

00:40:43.520 --> 00:40:46.520
stays with me is a young girl came and

00:40:47.200 --> 00:40:48.856
wanted to talk and we sat in the

00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.575
stairwell and she opened up about having

00:40:51.599 --> 00:40:54.136
an eating disorder, an ice addiction,

00:40:54.160 --> 00:40:56.616
and being sexually abused. That would

00:40:56.640 --> 00:40:58.856
never have happened on a youth program.

00:40:58.880 --> 00:41:01.656
It happens in those walls.

00:41:01.680 --> 00:41:04.216
Um,

00:41:04.240 --> 00:41:07.240
it's not just a gym. It's a safe place.

00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:10.216
It's somewhere for the community. It's a

00:41:10.240 --> 00:41:13.176
home. Um,

00:41:13.200 --> 00:41:15.496
St. Kilder PCYC is important to past

00:41:15.520 --> 00:41:18.520
generations, the the youth of today,

00:41:18.720 --> 00:41:21.256
future youth, and the broader community.

00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:23.496
It matters to me, and I believe it

00:41:23.520 --> 00:41:24.696
should matter to you.

00:41:24.720 --> 00:41:27.720
Thank you, Stevie.

00:41:30.560 --> 00:41:32.295
and thank you for sharing those personal

00:41:32.319 --> 00:41:34.055
experiences.

00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.079
Jan Casar is our final submitter or

00:41:37.359 --> 00:41:39.896
speaker to this item.

00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:41.815
Welcome, Jan.

00:41:41.839 --> 00:41:43.416
I know you know the drill, but two

00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:44.856
minutes  starting with your name and

00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:45.976
suburb. Welcome back.

00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:48.936
Thank you. Thank you very much. Sorry,

00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:51.960
my printer didn't work at home. Um Jan

00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:55.976
Ksa, Middle Park.  thank you, Mayor

00:41:56.000 --> 00:41:58.776
and counselors. Um, I'm the president of

00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:01.575
the Port Philip Eco Center and behalf on

00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:04.599
behalf of our staff, volunteers,

00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:08.280
our 29 affiliate agencies, and numerous

00:42:09.680 --> 00:42:12.055
program participants.

00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:14.295
Thank you to the city of Port Phillip

00:42:14.319 --> 00:42:16.696
for your ongoing support and partnership

00:42:16.720 --> 00:42:19.720
with us,

00:42:21.359 --> 00:42:24.359
culminating in the completion of the

00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:26.616
redevelopment of the new eco center in

00:42:26.640 --> 00:42:29.095
September and its opening in October

00:42:29.119 --> 00:42:32.119
last year. What a great achievement and

00:42:32.400 --> 00:42:34.055
result

00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:36.856
um and a combination of our collective

00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:39.880
vision and hard work.

00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:43.095
This last year has been an exciting and

00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:46.119
demanding one for us as we have set up

00:42:46.560 --> 00:42:49.416
the building, run the envirro fest, open

00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:52.440
to the public seven days a week,

00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:54.776
conducted numerous building tours,

00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:57.800
worked with over a thou  2,000

00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:02.119
volunteers and conducted our education,

00:43:02.240 --> 00:43:05.240
community engagement, science and impact

00:43:05.680 --> 00:43:08.680
programs as scheduled.

00:43:09.520 --> 00:43:11.256
Thank you for your ongoing support to

00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:13.815
the ecoenter in 2627

00:43:13.839 --> 00:43:16.839
in the 2627 budget and we will provide

00:43:18.240 --> 00:43:21.176
you with a comprehensive review at the

00:43:21.200 --> 00:43:24.200
halfway point of the 18month 7 day a

00:43:26.240 --> 00:43:29.240
week opening pilot

00:43:29.839 --> 00:43:32.839
um in July

00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:35.880
in July this year. I would also like to

00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:39.176
remind you that funding for this pilot

00:43:39.200 --> 00:43:41.656
is only for nine months in this

00:43:41.680 --> 00:43:44.680
financial year.

00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:49.800
I have to finish. Um I we value

00:43:50.560 --> 00:43:52.616
enormously and greatly the partnership

00:43:52.640 --> 00:43:54.456
with the city of Port Phillip and look

00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:56.616
forward to another productive year in

00:43:56.640 --> 00:43:58.536
2627.

00:43:58.560 --> 00:44:00.376
Thank you for your time tonight.

00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:03.400
Perfect. Right on time. Well done.

00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:06.920
And that concludes our submissions to

00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:10.119
items on the agenda. So now we can open

00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:13.256
up to item five, which is time for

00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:15.095
councilors to ask questions. Councelor

00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:17.575
question time. Who wishes to go first?

00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:19.976
Councelor Holidayiday.  thank you

00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:21.335
Mayor. Just wondering following up on

00:44:21.359 --> 00:44:22.536
one of the questions we got here. What

00:44:22.560 --> 00:44:25.560
is um councilor's role in um health and

00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:27.896
safety compliance here in the city of

00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:30.920
Port Phillip?

00:44:31.760 --> 00:44:34.760
ask council's role.

00:44:36.240 --> 00:44:37.736
Welcome

00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:39.976
through you Mayor and thank you

00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:42.055
councelor for the question. 

00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:43.815
councelors play an important role in the

00:44:43.839 --> 00:44:45.335
governance and oversight of health and

00:44:45.359 --> 00:44:47.656
safety within the organization. However,

00:44:47.680 --> 00:44:49.095
it's important to be clear that this

00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:51.095
role is distinct from operational

00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:53.176
responsibility. The day-to-day

00:44:53.200 --> 00:44:55.095
management of occupational health and

00:44:55.119 --> 00:44:57.416
safety, including the implementation of

00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:59.815
systems, procedures, and controls, sits

00:44:59.839 --> 00:45:01.656
with the chief executive officer and

00:45:01.680 --> 00:45:03.896
council officers. From a governance

00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:05.416
perspective, councilors have a

00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:07.575
responsibility to exercise due diligence

00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.416
to ensure that council is meeting its

00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:11.815
obligations under relevant health and

00:45:11.839 --> 00:45:14.295
safety legislation. This includes being

00:45:14.319 --> 00:45:16.216
satisfied that the appropriate policies,

00:45:16.240 --> 00:45:18.055
frameworks, and resources are in place

00:45:18.079 --> 00:45:20.536
to effectively manage risk to staff,

00:45:20.560 --> 00:45:22.456
contractors, and the community, and that

00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:25.480
those systems are operating as intended.

00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:27.256
In practical terms, this means

00:45:27.280 --> 00:45:28.856
counselors contribute by setting

00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:30.776
expectations around a strong safety

00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:33.256
culture, approving strategies, policies,

00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:34.856
and budgets that support health and

00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:36.936
safety outcomes, and reviewing

00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:38.696
information provided by officers

00:45:38.720 --> 00:45:40.776
regarding safety performance, risk, and

00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:43.335
incidents. Councilors also play a role

00:45:43.359 --> 00:45:45.416
in asking informed questions and seeking

00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:48.440
assurance where required.

00:45:49.200 --> 00:45:52.136
Of course, to narrow in a bit here, we

00:45:52.160 --> 00:45:54.456
had a question there about the BA cafe

00:45:54.480 --> 00:45:57.016
specifically and you know health and

00:45:57.040 --> 00:45:58.295
safety

00:45:58.319 --> 00:46:01.319
in a you know in a commercial premises.

00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:05.079
Do we have any role as councilors in

00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:07.416
that circumstance or is that entirely

00:46:07.440 --> 00:46:10.440
operational and therefore not under our

00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:13.575
purview as such?

00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:16.456
Thank you and I appreciate the narrowing

00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:19.480
of the of the  of the point. Um 

00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:25.176
there is a role for council in council

00:46:25.200 --> 00:46:28.200
laws and ensuring that  council

00:46:29.119 --> 00:46:32.119
officers have the resources they need.

00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:35.480
Ultimately, , council officers in this

00:46:35.839 --> 00:46:37.976
circumstance and and more broadly in

00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:41.000
these cases, , are acting in

00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:44.119
accordance with in this occasion, state

00:46:44.319 --> 00:46:47.319
legislation and council council laws do

00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:50.216
not have an opportunity to, and nor

00:46:50.240 --> 00:46:53.016
should they influence the outcome of

00:46:53.040 --> 00:46:55.335
those in those investigations or indeed

00:46:55.359 --> 00:46:58.359
their outcomes.

00:46:59.040 --> 00:47:01.176
So just to clarify the question, when

00:47:01.200 --> 00:47:04.200
council becomes aware of an issue in

00:47:05.040 --> 00:47:07.016
relation to the safety and integrity of

00:47:07.040 --> 00:47:08.295
the building, council needs to act

00:47:08.319 --> 00:47:11.016
accordingly. Right.  thank you and

00:47:11.040 --> 00:47:13.976
through you may  indeed council has a

00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:17.000
legislated obligation to u properly

00:47:17.680 --> 00:47:19.815
investigate and depending on the outcome

00:47:19.839 --> 00:47:22.839
of those investigations respond.

00:47:24.319 --> 00:47:27.319
Any further councelor Thomann

00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:30.295
I just I just have a further question.

00:47:30.319 --> 00:47:33.319
So obviously if we see  a problem 

00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:37.880
we so we I say council officers or the

00:47:38.560 --> 00:47:41.335
building manager or whoever  we 

00:47:41.359 --> 00:47:44.216
identify the problem and ask them to fix

00:47:44.240 --> 00:47:46.776
the problem  you know we just don't

00:47:46.800 --> 00:47:48.936
close them we just  give them enough

00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:51.960
time and  you know to actually rectify

00:47:53.119 --> 00:47:56.119
the problem before  you know the place

00:47:56.240 --> 00:47:58.696
closing down

00:47:58.720 --> 00:48:01.720
or having to close

00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.760
Yes, thank you. And through you um may

00:48:07.839 --> 00:48:10.839
 the way we seek to operate the way we

00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:14.599
operate  is to have um the most I

00:48:15.359 --> 00:48:18.359
suppose a minimalist impact. So we

00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:21.896
 investigate this is assuming we get a

00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:23.896
complaint or we we otherwise made aware

00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:26.920
of an invest of an issue. We investigate

00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:30.920
 we provide  an out we provide those

00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:33.960
findings to a business  and  include

00:48:36.319 --> 00:48:38.295
rectification

00:48:38.319 --> 00:48:40.295
 measures that are required. 

00:48:40.319 --> 00:48:43.176
there's an opportunity um to discuss

00:48:43.200 --> 00:48:46.200
those to in case we've missed anything.

00:48:47.200 --> 00:48:50.200
 and then um that

00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:53.736
investigation and that outcome is then

00:48:53.760 --> 00:48:55.736
formalized and an opportunity is

00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:58.760
provided to address any issues. Having

00:48:59.119 --> 00:49:01.976
said that, our primary concern and our

00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:05.000
primary legislative concern is the 

00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:09.079
health and safety of the occupants and

00:49:09.200 --> 00:49:12.200
the community. Um and some and we will

00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:15.559
 and sometimes we just don't have  a

00:49:15.839 --> 00:49:18.839
significant amount of time to act. But

00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:21.176
generally our approach has always been

00:49:21.200 --> 00:49:23.335
to seek to rectify

00:49:23.359 --> 00:49:26.359
um matters um rather than seeing um an

00:49:27.680 --> 00:49:30.680
operation close.

00:49:31.040 --> 00:49:34.040
Any further questions?

00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.256
Yes, councelor Hardy. In relation to the

00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:38.936
budget,

00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:41.960
we have footpaths

00:49:42.720 --> 00:49:45.720
allowance of 5,000 5,563,000.

00:49:49.839 --> 00:49:51.496
Rod, this is for items not on the

00:49:51.520 --> 00:49:52.936
agenda.

00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:54.616
Council Hardy, for items not on the

00:49:54.640 --> 00:49:55.256
agenda.

00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:56.216
Sorry,

00:49:56.240 --> 00:49:58.055
this is public question council question

00:49:58.079 --> 00:49:59.575
time for items not on the agenda.

00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:00.936
It's on the agenda. The budget.

00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:02.776
Yeah, you can ask that when we get to

00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:03.896
that agenda item.

00:50:03.920 --> 00:50:04.616
Okay.

00:50:04.640 --> 00:50:06.776
Okay. On the agenda. Thank you for that

00:50:06.800 --> 00:50:07.896
clarification.

00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:10.055
So, thank you for foreshadowing your

00:50:10.079 --> 00:50:11.896
future question when we get to item

00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:14.055
13.1.

00:50:14.079 --> 00:50:17.079
I kindly appreciate your foreshadowing.

00:50:21.200 --> 00:50:24.200
Any further questions?

00:50:30.000 --> 00:50:33.000
Any further questions

00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:35.815
for items not on the agenda? Yes,

00:50:35.839 --> 00:50:38.295
councelor Jay.

00:50:38.319 --> 00:50:40.456
Do we have a briefing coming up with

00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:42.856
PCYC? It's been great to have the board

00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:45.176
here. Um, thank you for coming. And is

00:50:45.200 --> 00:50:46.936
there a councelor briefing coming up, an

00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:49.960
official one,

00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:52.856
Kylie Bennett, over to you

00:50:52.880 --> 00:50:55.016
through you, Mayor? , yes, there is.

00:50:55.040 --> 00:50:57.016
There is a briefing scheduled for next

00:50:57.040 --> 00:51:00.040
week with councilors.

00:51:00.559 --> 00:51:03.416
Thank you. Any further questions for

00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:06.440
officers from counselors?

00:51:07.040 --> 00:51:10.040
Going once, going twice.

00:51:11.520 --> 00:51:14.520
All right, we'll move on on to item six,

00:51:15.040 --> 00:51:16.216
petitions, joint letters, and

00:51:16.240 --> 00:51:18.136
deputations, of which we have none this

00:51:18.160 --> 00:51:21.160
evening. So, that brings us now to

00:51:21.280 --> 00:51:24.216
officer reports.

00:51:24.240 --> 00:51:27.095
And what we might do is have we've been

00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:28.136
here for about an hour. Why don't we

00:51:28.160 --> 00:51:29.575
have a 10-minute break? We'll come back

00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.599
at 7:32.

00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:37.480
We're on to the presentation of officer

00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:41.559
reports, beginning with item 7.1, the

00:51:42.160 --> 00:51:45.160
presentation of the CO report issue 127,

00:51:45.200 --> 00:51:47.815
the third quarter review.

00:51:47.839 --> 00:51:50.136
Any questions for officers on this

00:51:50.160 --> 00:51:53.160
agenda item?

00:51:56.160 --> 00:51:59.160
I can't believe the silence.

00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:05.480
All right. No questions on this item.

00:52:05.920 --> 00:52:08.776
Do we have a mover for the

00:52:08.800 --> 00:52:11.800
recommendation before us? That is moved.

00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:13.976
Oh, bit competition here. I'm going to

00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:15.815
move councelor Holidayiday seconded.

00:52:15.839 --> 00:52:18.839
Councelor Thomann. Does the mover wish to

00:52:19.680 --> 00:52:22.136
speak?

00:52:22.160 --> 00:52:23.976
As usual, a huge amount of work has gone

00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:25.896
into this and we are skipping past it

00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:27.656
tonight. Um I would like to have given

00:52:27.680 --> 00:52:30.055
it more um consideration tonight but I

00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:31.976
think we have better things to well not

00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:34.456
better more important and pertinent

00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:35.896
things to discuss as we get into the

00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:37.656
other items. So I would um commend

00:52:37.680 --> 00:52:40.216
everyone this to everyone tonight and

00:52:40.240 --> 00:52:42.535
put it to the vote. Thank you councelor

00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:44.136
Holidayiday. Does the second wish to

00:52:44.160 --> 00:52:47.016
speak? Second is not choosing to speak.

00:52:47.040 --> 00:52:48.696
Does any other counselor wish to speak

00:52:48.720 --> 00:52:51.720
to this item before us this evening?

00:52:52.160 --> 00:52:54.696
In which case there's no other speakers.

00:52:54.720 --> 00:52:57.720
Would the mover wish to close? The mover

00:52:57.760 --> 00:52:59.736
is putting it to the vote and we are

00:52:59.760 --> 00:53:02.760
showing hands in carrying that item

00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:05.880
unanimously

00:53:09.760 --> 00:53:12.760
and then we'll move on to item 8.1.

00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:24.295
Any questions for officers in relation

00:53:24.319 --> 00:53:27.319
to this item?

00:53:29.680 --> 00:53:30.616
Infrastructure plan.

00:53:30.640 --> 00:53:32.376
The community infrastructure plan item

00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:35.400
8.1. Any questions for officers?

00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:40.295
No questions for I do have a question. I

00:53:40.319 --> 00:53:42.936
just wanted to ask in and this is as you

00:53:42.960 --> 00:53:45.416
know a really solid document. Where are

00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:48.295
the future pot? Where's the future

00:53:48.319 --> 00:53:49.656
potential in taking this document

00:53:49.680 --> 00:53:51.256
further in terms of looking at

00:53:51.280 --> 00:53:54.280
utilization rates, looking at 

00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:56.136
regional community infrastructure,

00:53:56.160 --> 00:53:58.535
looking at transport connections, where

00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:00.055
do we take the community infrastructure

00:54:00.079 --> 00:54:03.079
plan from here potentially?

00:54:03.359 --> 00:54:04.936
 through you may thank you for the

00:54:04.960 --> 00:54:07.335
question.  the officers who prepared

00:54:07.359 --> 00:54:09.896
this report have got many plans for

00:54:09.920 --> 00:54:12.920
regional advocacy. Um, taking this this

00:54:13.520 --> 00:54:15.976
plan forward, there will be a specific

00:54:16.000 --> 00:54:18.456
phase two as part of the development and

00:54:18.480 --> 00:54:20.856
implementation, we will also be looking

00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:22.776
at the utilization of community

00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:25.800
facilities pending budget um in the 2627

00:54:26.559 --> 00:54:28.696
budget, which will look at how each of

00:54:28.720 --> 00:54:30.456
our individual community facilities are

00:54:30.480 --> 00:54:33.095
currently used. We're also intending to

00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:36.119
combine um the current community

00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:38.856
facilities data with the sport and wreck

00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:41.880
facilities to understand an overall um

00:54:42.720 --> 00:54:45.095
supply gap that may be required going

00:54:45.119 --> 00:54:47.095
out to 206.

00:54:47.119 --> 00:54:49.016
Um we'll also be taking a regional

00:54:49.040 --> 00:54:51.575
advocacy approach by  consulting with

00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:54.535
our neighboring councils to understand

00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:56.376
um their infrastructure requirements and

00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:57.896
whether or not there's opportunity to

00:54:57.920 --> 00:55:00.920
advocate at a regional level.

00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:04.599
Fantastic. Any further questions for

00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:08.280
officers?

00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:10.696
Yes,

00:55:10.720 --> 00:55:12.456
councelor Holidayiday. Just along the

00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:14.295
same lines there and maybe it's the same

00:55:14.319 --> 00:55:16.616
question but differently framed. How

00:55:16.640 --> 00:55:19.016
will residents

00:55:19.040 --> 00:55:21.256
see the impact of this community

00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:23.815
infrastructure planning that we're doing

00:55:23.839 --> 00:55:26.295
here? What will they see in their

00:55:26.319 --> 00:55:28.856
suburbs?

00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:31.736
 three may  initially they won't see

00:55:31.760 --> 00:55:34.295
a huge amount. It is a long-term plan.

00:55:34.319 --> 00:55:36.936
We have um fiveyear infrastructure

00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:39.176
requirements planned out and they'll be

00:55:39.200 --> 00:55:41.176
delivered through our normal property

00:55:41.200 --> 00:55:43.656
roadmap.  we'll also be doing the

00:55:43.680 --> 00:55:46.055
regional advocacy. So longer term

00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:49.079
they'll see um changes in terms of what

00:55:49.200 --> 00:55:52.200
what's available to them in their um LGA

00:55:52.240 --> 00:55:55.240
or in their ward sorry. Um, additionally

00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:57.656
through the phase 2 utilization work,

00:55:57.680 --> 00:55:59.575
we'll be understanding exactly what

00:55:59.599 --> 00:56:01.335
services are delivered within each of

00:56:01.359 --> 00:56:03.016
our community facilities to make sure

00:56:03.040 --> 00:56:05.176
that they align with community need. So

00:56:05.200 --> 00:56:07.896
they might see um us encouraging

00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:09.496
different services be delivered in

00:56:09.520 --> 00:56:12.520
different locations depending on um what

00:56:12.720 --> 00:56:14.216
we find through our research to

00:56:14.240 --> 00:56:15.815
understand what the community are

00:56:15.839 --> 00:56:17.896
requiring. They do have changing needs.

00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:19.815
We do have a changing community in terms

00:56:19.839 --> 00:56:22.839
of diversity, education levels, um,

00:56:23.119 --> 00:56:25.416
general demographics. So, it's likely

00:56:25.440 --> 00:56:27.736
that the community services delivered

00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:29.416
within facilities should shift to

00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:31.016
accommodate

00:56:31.040 --> 00:56:32.696
through through your Mayor. Just to

00:56:32.720 --> 00:56:35.095
build on Christine's answer, also as

00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:38.119
council's developing um, strategies. So,

00:56:38.160 --> 00:56:40.295
, council will soon consider the

00:56:40.319 --> 00:56:43.319
creative strategy for instance, that has

00:56:43.599 --> 00:56:45.575
um, absolutely been informed by the

00:56:45.599 --> 00:56:47.896
community infrastructure plan.  and

00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:50.920
has helped  shape some of the actions

00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.256
um within that strategy and that'll come

00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:55.976
to the chamber shortly. So  that will

00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:57.976
also be a way that that residents and

00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:01.000
stakeholders will see change um in the

00:57:01.359 --> 00:57:04.359
short and longer term.

00:57:04.799 --> 00:57:06.456
Deputy Mayor Mers,

00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:09.480
thank you Mayor Min.  my question is

00:57:09.680 --> 00:57:12.680
in respect of  the Lakeside Ward, are

00:57:13.440 --> 00:57:16.440
you able to advise the open space

00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:18.775
contributions

00:57:18.799 --> 00:57:21.799
for  Lakeside Ward perhaps over the

00:57:22.720 --> 00:57:25.496
last 5 years or if not available over

00:57:25.520 --> 00:57:27.896
the last year

00:57:27.920 --> 00:57:30.920
and in doing so  are you were able to

00:57:31.839 --> 00:57:33.896
advise the direct local benefits of

00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:36.920
those contributions in the last you

00:57:42.720 --> 00:57:44.775
may  will officers will take that one

00:57:44.799 --> 00:57:47.256
on notice and come back to you

00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:50.280
councelor Timman

00:57:50.559 --> 00:57:53.559
just on the on 6.4 four in the report on

00:57:53.839 --> 00:57:56.839
Sila West um there are a few 

00:57:59.200 --> 00:58:02.055
community health services um that are

00:58:02.079 --> 00:58:05.079
mentioned is it possible to add a few

00:58:05.119 --> 00:58:08.119
more to that list because I think  you

00:58:08.319 --> 00:58:09.815
know I know that we cannot list

00:58:09.839 --> 00:58:11.335
everything but can I I'm just thinking

00:58:11.359 --> 00:58:14.359
of four that are based in Stila West and

00:58:14.400 --> 00:58:17.016
that's the Salvation Army Bridget the

00:58:17.040 --> 00:58:18.535
Christ Church community center and first

00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:21.095
step so is that something that can be

00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:23.256
added  to that report. I don't know if

00:58:23.280 --> 00:58:25.095
there are other

00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:27.416
groups that u other councils, but I

00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:30.440
think it's important that  I believe

00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:32.055
they're doing a great job and I think

00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:34.696
this should be in the report as well.

00:58:34.720 --> 00:58:37.256
 through May, the report considers

00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:39.496
councilowned community facilities, but

00:58:39.520 --> 00:58:41.496
as part of phase two, we will be looking

00:58:41.520 --> 00:58:44.055
at um what other services are available

00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:46.216
in terms of a competitor analysis so we

00:58:46.240 --> 00:58:48.856
can add it into that section.

00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:50.456
The reason sorry I'm asking is that for

00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:52.295
example secret admission is on there and

00:58:52.319 --> 00:58:55.319
obviously that's what council on

00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:58.055
May we'll have a look at that one thank

00:58:58.079 --> 00:58:59.496
you

00:58:59.520 --> 00:59:02.520
councelor consol

00:59:04.079 --> 00:59:06.376
thank you so I like that it was broken

00:59:06.400 --> 00:59:09.400
down into um into neighborhoods but can

00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:13.079
you tell us how that is operating

00:59:13.920 --> 00:59:16.920
um maybe geographically in proximity to

00:59:18.160 --> 00:59:21.160
each other because they're not w areas

00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:23.815
and um something that's happening in

00:59:23.839 --> 00:59:25.575
Port Melbourne could easily be

00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:28.055
functioning and supporting the growth in

00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:30.295
fisherman's bend. It doesn't need its

00:59:30.319 --> 00:59:32.775
own new thing always, but it might be

00:59:32.799 --> 00:59:34.616
that we invest in the existing. So, how

00:59:34.640 --> 00:59:36.696
are we working with  geographic

00:59:36.720 --> 00:59:39.720
boundaries with um integrating and being

00:59:40.720 --> 00:59:43.720
able to isolate them?

00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:46.856
Um through you may the analysis does

00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:49.880
look at supply and demand by location.

00:59:50.319 --> 00:59:53.319
Um logically we would look at each

00:59:53.680 --> 00:59:56.680
additional um infrastructure on a case

00:59:56.960 --> 00:59:59.736
by case basis and understand the where

00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:01.896
where things need to be located

01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:03.815
according to proximity to where others

01:00:03.839 --> 01:00:06.839
are. So we wouldn't um we wouldn't take

01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:10.616
what is what is kind of in the report at

01:00:10.640 --> 01:00:12.295
face value. we'd need to do further

01:00:12.319 --> 01:00:14.856
analysis as as an infrastructure came

01:00:14.880 --> 01:00:16.775
up. Sorry,

01:00:16.799 --> 01:00:18.696
deputy mayers.

01:00:18.720 --> 01:00:21.656
Thank you. My question is in respect of

01:00:21.680 --> 01:00:24.535
the methodology and I understand through

01:00:24.559 --> 01:00:27.559
the the maps that we see in the

01:00:27.680 --> 01:00:29.416
presentation,

01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:32.440
the use of the suburb  delineates the

01:00:33.040 --> 01:00:36.040
area that we're talking about. Um

01:00:36.799 --> 01:00:39.016
so in which case

01:00:39.040 --> 01:00:42.040
Lakeside is subsumed into Elbert Park.

01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:46.280
 Lakeside is in Melbourne 3004

01:00:48.240 --> 01:00:50.856
and I think Elbert Park is a different

01:00:50.880 --> 01:00:53.880
suburb. Um

01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:57.000
if you look at looking at that setup,

01:00:58.799 --> 01:01:01.799
is it possible to extract specific

01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:05.095
information to give a a more detailed

01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:08.119
approach  in analysis of Lakeside Ward

01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:14.440
firstly

01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:16.775
through the Mayor.

01:01:16.799 --> 01:01:19.095
So the plan does identify broader

01:01:19.119 --> 01:01:21.736
patterns of demand, population change

01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:24.055
and service gaps. Um so yeah, it does

01:01:24.079 --> 01:01:27.079
not um identify those patterns in that

01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:29.656
those specific areas as you've

01:01:29.680 --> 01:01:31.176
identified

01:01:31.200 --> 01:01:34.200
um and does incorporate the level of

01:01:34.400 --> 01:01:35.976
specific demand assessment for those

01:01:36.000 --> 01:01:39.000
small areas.  however, the plan

01:01:39.359 --> 01:01:41.256
positions council to move into that more

01:01:41.280 --> 01:01:43.496
detailed precinct planning with a clear

01:01:43.520 --> 01:01:45.896
consistent framework. Um and in the

01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:47.976
implementation FL phase, we will

01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:50.136
definitely ensure that future priorities

01:01:50.160 --> 01:01:52.696
are identified in the Lakeside area and

01:01:52.720 --> 01:01:54.696
that their evidence-based and considered

01:01:54.720 --> 01:01:57.720
alongside needs across the municipality

01:01:57.920 --> 01:02:00.136
um and area specific infrastructure can

01:02:00.160 --> 01:02:02.535
be further explored um and we should be

01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:04.376
able to drill down further into the data

01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:07.095
and the needs in those areas

01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:09.335
through through you ma'am. So just to

01:02:09.359 --> 01:02:11.656
clarify within the document at the

01:02:11.680 --> 01:02:13.976
moment  there is information in terms

01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:17.000
of supply of community infrastructure

01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:20.440
 that could be extrapolated out to um

01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:25.000
Lakeside  for instance  the nature

01:02:25.760 --> 01:02:28.760
of the of the way the the demand

01:02:29.040 --> 01:02:31.815
information has been collected that

01:02:31.839 --> 01:02:34.535
wouldn't be possible. um there would

01:02:34.559 --> 01:02:37.559
need to be um some further work done and

01:02:37.680 --> 01:02:40.216
some further resource done resource

01:02:40.240 --> 01:02:43.176
allocated to to fully understand that

01:02:43.200 --> 01:02:46.200
demand work. It's possible um but it's

01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:48.856
not part of the current plan.

01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:51.880
So in the event that that was 

01:02:52.240 --> 01:02:55.240
requested there'd be a a cost. However,

01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:00.295
it would ensure a more accurate analysis

01:03:00.319 --> 01:03:03.176
of I would argue the most rapidly

01:03:03.200 --> 01:03:05.256
growing area of the city of Port Phillip

01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:08.280
at the present time.

01:03:08.319 --> 01:03:10.936
 through through you, Mayor,  yes,

01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:13.095
there would be a cost.  officers have

01:03:13.119 --> 01:03:15.335
estimated that that would be around

01:03:15.359 --> 01:03:17.575
$10,000

01:03:17.599 --> 01:03:20.376
um to undertake that work. Um that would

01:03:20.400 --> 01:03:23.176
enable an accurate um accurate

01:03:23.200 --> 01:03:26.136
assessment of demand in that area.  it

01:03:26.160 --> 01:03:28.535
require would require the purchase of

01:03:28.559 --> 01:03:31.559
data as I've been advised at a a local

01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:35.656
more neighborhood level um that would

01:03:35.680 --> 01:03:38.680
enable an accurate description of it. 

01:03:38.799 --> 01:03:40.936
without that it would merely be an

01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:43.095
estimate and it may under or over

01:03:43.119 --> 01:03:46.119
represent the data if we extrapolated

01:03:46.240 --> 01:03:48.136
out what we've currently got in the

01:03:48.160 --> 01:03:49.656
plan.

01:03:49.680 --> 01:03:50.936
Any further questions? Councelor

01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:53.575
Consolar, I saw your hand. No, that's um

01:03:53.599 --> 01:03:55.736
Councelor Thomann.

01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:57.896
Just as a follow-up question, 

01:03:57.920 --> 01:04:00.535
obviously Sila Road is on one side it's

01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:03.256
us and the other side it's  

01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:06.280
Melbourne and stuff. So  are we

01:04:06.640 --> 01:04:09.640
working with  the other LGA to see you

01:04:11.440 --> 01:04:12.936
know um you know because there's no

01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:14.376
point to have a library on each side of

01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:17.400
the road for example. So can we u work

01:04:18.240 --> 01:04:21.240
with other LGAs to you know drive our

01:04:21.760 --> 01:04:24.760
dollars furthers in a way or  just as

01:04:24.799 --> 01:04:25.976
you know I think it's sort of quite

01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:29.000
logical in this case

01:04:31.200 --> 01:04:33.656
 through you may yes absolutely we'll

01:04:33.680 --> 01:04:35.095
be setting up a working group with our

01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:37.015
neighboring councils and um we

01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:38.696
understand a number of them have already

01:04:38.720 --> 01:04:40.376
started their community infrastructure

01:04:40.400 --> 01:04:42.936
work so they're at similar stages to us

01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:45.015
and we'll be able to look at our data

01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:48.039
together for advocacy purposes.

01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:51.496
Final questions. Councelor Holidayiday.

01:04:51.520 --> 01:04:53.896
 just circling back  on a question

01:04:53.920 --> 01:04:56.920
that  deputy may asked um and maybe I

01:04:58.240 --> 01:05:00.456
need some clarification here. When when

01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:01.575
we talk about this community

01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:04.535
infrastructure here, I think Brian was

01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:07.559
asking about um the accumulated funds

01:05:07.839 --> 01:05:09.815
that we get from developer contributions

01:05:09.839 --> 01:05:12.216
and that larger fund that we build up

01:05:12.240 --> 01:05:15.240
there. Does does any of that money

01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:18.216
is any of that available for

01:05:18.240 --> 01:05:19.976
facilitating community infrastructure or

01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:23.000
is it only for open space

01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:25.896
through you may again we'll need to take

01:05:25.920 --> 01:05:28.920
that one on notice

01:05:28.960 --> 01:05:31.960
further further further questions.

01:05:32.240 --> 01:05:33.656
 yes

01:05:33.680 --> 01:05:36.680
sorry I'm wondering through Peter did

01:05:37.119 --> 01:05:40.119
you have an answer to that question?

01:05:41.839 --> 01:05:42.936
I'm just trying to get him out of the

01:05:42.960 --> 01:05:43.256
chat.

01:05:43.280 --> 01:05:45.256
Yeah, through you, Mayor. Um, generally

01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:47.496
speaking, um, open space contributions

01:05:47.520 --> 01:05:50.136
are for open space enhancements. Um,

01:05:50.160 --> 01:05:51.896
what you're looking at is the community

01:05:51.920 --> 01:05:54.295
infrastructure plan, which essentially

01:05:54.319 --> 01:05:56.136
mostly are relating to like buildings

01:05:56.160 --> 01:05:59.160
and that that form. Having said that,

01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:02.599
um, open space can form part of that in

01:06:03.359 --> 01:06:06.359
somewhat, , but not necessarily, um,

01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:08.055
the majority funding would come from

01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:10.456
open space.

01:06:10.480 --> 01:06:12.456
Councelor Joe.

01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:14.295
Um,

01:06:14.319 --> 01:06:17.319
what do we do with open space funding in

01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:22.119
areas like Lakeside and Domain where

01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:25.400
it's almost impossible to afford or buy

01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:29.079
open space and in areas where it's um

01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:32.616
considered that Forner Park and Albert

01:06:32.640 --> 01:06:34.775
Park will provide the green space for

01:06:34.799 --> 01:06:36.775
these communities.

01:06:36.799 --> 01:06:39.799
Um, is it possible to transfer some of

01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:44.280
that open space money into community

01:06:44.480 --> 01:06:47.335
space considering that the likelihood of

01:06:47.359 --> 01:06:50.359
purchasing green space seems to be quite

01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:53.480
low in those um quite expensive

01:06:53.680 --> 01:06:56.295
highdensity areas that are concrete

01:06:56.319 --> 01:06:58.136
island

01:06:58.160 --> 01:07:00.535
through you may spot.

01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:02.376
Thank Thank you councelor for the

01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:05.400
question. I think the the heart of the

01:07:06.319 --> 01:07:08.295
question relates to what you can use

01:07:08.319 --> 01:07:11.319
them the open space for and certainly um

01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:14.440
from the aspect of um it is can be used

01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:19.079
for public resort in a nutshell it could

01:07:19.520 --> 01:07:22.055
be a open space within a building that

01:07:22.079 --> 01:07:25.079
can still be used um as well as other 

01:07:26.079 --> 01:07:29.079
you know normal sporting or or or parks

01:07:29.119 --> 01:07:31.095
and gardens and so forth. So it's not

01:07:31.119 --> 01:07:33.575
just rec confined to parks and gardens.

01:07:33.599 --> 01:07:36.599
It can be um for you know public space

01:07:38.240 --> 01:07:41.240
public being available for public.

01:07:41.680 --> 01:07:43.736
I mean this is random. If we wanted to

01:07:43.760 --> 01:07:45.736
buy a rooftop on someone's building

01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:47.575
could it be used to purchase a rooftop

01:07:47.599 --> 01:07:49.575
and turn it into public space that the

01:07:49.599 --> 01:07:52.055
residents could use?

01:07:52.079 --> 01:07:53.256
just random

01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:56.280
through you may um this question is a

01:07:56.400 --> 01:07:58.696
bit technical but not in a general

01:07:58.720 --> 01:08:00.216
principle

01:08:00.240 --> 01:08:03.240
answer to that potentially yes um but we

01:08:04.240 --> 01:08:07.240
need to consider the aspect of access

01:08:08.640 --> 01:08:11.640
accessibility y

01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:13.575
just a reminder this is about community

01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:15.976
infrastructure not public  open space

01:08:16.000 --> 01:08:17.416
Brian T

01:08:17.440 --> 01:08:20.056
 thank you and and indeed me I think

01:08:20.080 --> 01:08:23.080
the  open base contributions are paid

01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:26.199
for by developers  and they are

01:08:26.239 --> 01:08:29.239
provided pursuant to statutory

01:08:29.520 --> 01:08:31.815
requirements or planning or planning

01:08:31.839 --> 01:08:34.839
scheme requirements which requires them

01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:38.279
to be used to deliver open space or

01:08:38.799 --> 01:08:41.175
associated uses but open space

01:08:41.199 --> 01:08:43.255
primarily. So there's little flexibility

01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:45.735
in terms of the breadth for which we can

01:08:45.759 --> 01:08:48.135
use open space contributions.

01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:51.159
 in terms of where that open space 

01:08:52.080 --> 01:08:55.080
is located. Our policy position  is

01:08:56.159 --> 01:08:58.856
that it is connected to the area in

01:08:58.880 --> 01:09:01.880
which  it is collected  in a broad

01:09:02.400 --> 01:09:05.400
sense and that is um to ensure that the

01:09:08.080 --> 01:09:09.735
space  you know the developer

01:09:09.759 --> 01:09:12.759
contributions for open space  is made

01:09:13.120 --> 01:09:15.175
available to the community that is in

01:09:15.199 --> 01:09:17.735
that surrounding area. And yes, in in

01:09:17.759 --> 01:09:20.215
areas like Lakeside and Domain, that is

01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:23.016
more problematic, but as we've seen with

01:09:23.040 --> 01:09:26.040
our um efforts around Cobden Park, 

01:09:26.640 --> 01:09:28.856
there are we do seek to find those

01:09:28.880 --> 01:09:31.880
opportunities.

01:09:33.520 --> 01:09:36.520
I I think my concern is and I've got to

01:09:37.199 --> 01:09:40.135
ask a question here. What percentage of

01:09:40.159 --> 01:09:42.536
the open space funds over the last 5

01:09:42.560 --> 01:09:44.616
years collected from St. Kilder Road

01:09:44.640 --> 01:09:47.640
have been used directly in the wedge

01:09:48.319 --> 01:09:50.295
between Kingsway and St Kilder

01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:52.856
benefiting those residents and rate

01:09:52.880 --> 01:09:54.376
payers from the development in those

01:09:54.400 --> 01:09:57.400
areas.

01:09:59.360 --> 01:10:01.096
We might have to take that on that

01:10:01.120 --> 01:10:03.016
detail on notice.

01:10:03.040 --> 01:10:05.816
All right, councelor Thomann.

01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:08.840
 I  can can we buy  you know

01:10:09.120 --> 01:10:11.416
rooftop might be complicated because as

01:10:11.440 --> 01:10:13.096
I said with access but can we buy a

01:10:13.120 --> 01:10:14.536
ground floor of an apartment of a

01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:16.616
building for example? Can open space

01:10:16.640 --> 01:10:18.936
contribution be used to buy a ground

01:10:18.960 --> 01:10:21.960
floor of of a building um and and  and

01:10:24.320 --> 01:10:27.320
create a you know have a public you know

01:10:27.520 --> 01:10:29.336
a place where

01:10:29.360 --> 01:10:31.816
for us to answer some of these

01:10:31.840 --> 01:10:33.256
questions. No, but I'm just saying that

01:10:33.280 --> 01:10:35.175
put for example, we could have a library

01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:36.616
on the ground floor of a building. So,

01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:38.936
can we buy can open space contribution

01:10:38.960 --> 01:10:40.856
help us buy a ground floor of a building

01:10:40.880 --> 01:10:42.936
for example?

01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:44.856
Um, it's been a while since I've checked

01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:47.175
the conditions on which we receive open

01:10:47.199 --> 01:10:49.496
space contribution. So, I'd need to

01:10:49.520 --> 01:10:52.215
confirm, but my understanding is it's

01:10:52.239 --> 01:10:55.239
designed for  passive open space that

01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:58.056
provides active and passive 

01:10:58.080 --> 01:11:01.080
recreation rather than community spaces

01:11:01.120 --> 01:11:04.120
or built spaces, build form spaces. But

01:11:04.239 --> 01:11:07.096
I' I'd need to confirm that. Councelor

01:11:07.120 --> 01:11:09.175
Holidayiday.  thank you, Mayor. There

01:11:09.199 --> 01:11:12.199
was a discussion  in the context of

01:11:12.480 --> 01:11:15.480
the budget about um implementation of a

01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:18.536
like an infrastructure levy on new

01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:21.560
developments. If we did consider in the

01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:24.536
future such an levy, would that be able

01:11:24.560 --> 01:11:27.175
to also go towards funding community

01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:29.655
infrastructure rather than drains and

01:11:29.679 --> 01:11:31.896
gutters and things that are hard

01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:34.920
infrastructure in that way?

01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:39.800
I might start um and and see if my

01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:42.920
colleagues can um add but um yes,

01:11:43.199 --> 01:11:44.936
council is having a look at options

01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:47.096
around developer contributions or

01:11:47.120 --> 01:11:49.175
infrastructure contributions and there's

01:11:49.199 --> 01:11:52.135
 two different  models and indeed 

01:11:52.159 --> 01:11:55.159
we've got a model which um  is

01:11:55.360 --> 01:11:56.856
currently

01:11:56.880 --> 01:11:59.256
 under development and and in

01:11:59.280 --> 01:12:02.280
fisherman's bin. Um and using that as an

01:12:02.640 --> 01:12:05.640
example that um those developer

01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:07.736
contributions if you go through the

01:12:07.760 --> 01:12:10.760
scheme are allocated to identified

01:12:11.440 --> 01:12:13.416
developments which they then contribute

01:12:13.440 --> 01:12:16.440
to which then council or a third council

01:12:16.800 --> 01:12:19.096
would deliver.  and yes the uses of

01:12:19.120 --> 01:12:21.256
those are reasonably extensive. They are

01:12:21.280 --> 01:12:22.936
as we've seen for fisherman's bend they

01:12:22.960 --> 01:12:25.960
used for roads drainage  community

01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:29.640
hubs community spaces and so forth.

01:12:31.760 --> 01:12:34.760
Any further questions? Councelor Joe.

01:12:35.120 --> 01:12:37.896
Yeah. Um, roughly the 11,000 residents

01:12:37.920 --> 01:12:39.736
that live in high density along St.

01:12:39.760 --> 01:12:42.760
Kilder Road, um, , boarded by St.

01:12:43.040 --> 01:12:45.816
Kilder Road in Kingsway, were those

01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:48.376
residents consulted and engaged in this

01:12:48.400 --> 01:12:51.016
community infrastructure plan

01:12:51.040 --> 01:12:54.040
specifically

01:12:57.440 --> 01:12:59.655
through you, Mayor. Yes, we took a broad

01:12:59.679 --> 01:13:02.616
approach to um seeking resident input

01:13:02.640 --> 01:13:03.976
throughout the development of the

01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:05.496
community infrastructure plan both in

01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:08.520
phase one and phase 2. Um we sent

01:13:08.640 --> 01:13:11.416
through all of our um different channels

01:13:11.440 --> 01:13:13.175
including all of our community sector

01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:16.199
news and diversity as well as um

01:13:16.719 --> 01:13:18.616
snowballing through the community as

01:13:18.640 --> 01:13:21.640
best we could.

01:13:23.120 --> 01:13:24.695
Further question,

01:13:24.719 --> 01:13:27.175
, do council find it difficult to

01:13:27.199 --> 01:13:29.816
engage with this cohort because there's

01:13:29.840 --> 01:13:31.336
no actual community rooms or

01:13:31.360 --> 01:13:34.360
infrastructure in place to engage them

01:13:34.719 --> 01:13:35.896
to start with

01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:37.736
 through you may that's not something

01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:40.695
that we've identified as a gap, but we

01:13:40.719 --> 01:13:43.016
continue to try to engage that community

01:13:43.040 --> 01:13:46.040
through our additional projects.

01:13:47.440 --> 01:13:50.135
And do we consider the multiculturalism

01:13:50.159 --> 01:13:51.655
and the diversity and the multiple

01:13:51.679 --> 01:13:54.679
languages spoken along um that area? I

01:13:55.120 --> 01:13:56.776
think when I see community engagement,

01:13:56.800 --> 01:13:58.695
it's in libraries and things like that.

01:13:58.719 --> 01:14:00.296
So if you don't have community spaces

01:14:00.320 --> 01:14:01.736
and libraries, it's a little bit

01:14:01.760 --> 01:14:04.376
difficult to create that space on a main

01:14:04.400 --> 01:14:06.936
road. So with the languages and the

01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:09.576
diversity

01:14:09.600 --> 01:14:11.896
through you may  when appropriate we

01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:14.920
do do translations and um I can talk

01:14:15.280 --> 01:14:17.175
through to our community engagement team

01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:19.256
about how how they what other methods

01:14:19.280 --> 01:14:21.736
they're using to engage that community

01:14:21.760 --> 01:14:23.576
and through you may just to build on

01:14:23.600 --> 01:14:25.736
Christine's response council is also

01:14:25.760 --> 01:14:28.215
considering a multicultural strategy

01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:31.239
which um engaged in a a range of 

01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:34.376
different and appropriate ways that will

01:14:34.400 --> 01:14:36.856
be coming into the chamber soon. And as

01:14:36.880 --> 01:14:39.016
part of that, there are strategies

01:14:39.040 --> 01:14:41.496
around how council can improve and

01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:44.520
enhance its engagement and communication

01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:46.616
 with residents from a range of

01:14:46.640 --> 01:14:49.096
different cultural backgrounds and and

01:14:49.120 --> 01:14:51.336
yeah,

01:14:51.360 --> 01:14:54.296
any further further further further

01:14:54.320 --> 01:14:57.256
questions?

01:14:57.280 --> 01:14:58.856
Oh, silence has just entered the

01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:00.936
chamber.

01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:02.936
in which case  the community

01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:05.960
infrastructure plan is a real focal area

01:15:06.400 --> 01:15:09.400
of mine. So I will be moving the

01:15:09.679 --> 01:15:11.576
recommendation with an alternate

01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:14.600
recommendation item 3.4 Four being that

01:15:15.199 --> 01:15:17.496
the committee infrastructure plan or

01:15:17.520 --> 01:15:19.016
that council notes the methodology of

01:15:19.040 --> 01:15:20.856
the committee infrastructure plan being

01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:22.695
based on recognized suburbs and requests

01:15:22.719 --> 01:15:24.856
of the CEO or delegate include an

01:15:24.880 --> 01:15:26.376
attachment in the final community

01:15:26.400 --> 01:15:28.695
infrastructure plan to highlight high

01:15:28.719 --> 01:15:30.536
growth locations and community

01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:32.215
infrastructure needs within the city of

01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:34.616
Port Phillip specifically the lakeside

01:15:34.640 --> 01:15:36.536
domain Montigue Sandbridge and Wir

01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:39.560
precincts and 3.5 being that  council

01:15:40.880 --> 01:15:42.776
requests of the chief executive officer

01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:45.016
or delegate develop a more detailed

01:15:45.040 --> 01:15:47.496
localized data and analysis for high

01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:50.296
growth locations lakeside and domain to

01:15:50.320 --> 01:15:52.456
identify community infrastructure needs

01:15:52.480 --> 01:15:55.096
and allocates $10,000 to enable local

01:15:55.120 --> 01:15:57.416
area analysis to occur and request that

01:15:57.440 --> 01:15:59.496
the CEO or delegate determine an

01:15:59.520 --> 01:16:02.520
alternate an appropriate funding source.

01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:05.640
That is the recommendation before us. I

01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:07.896
am moving from the chair. Is there a

01:16:07.920 --> 01:16:10.456
second? Seconded deputy may ask a

01:16:10.480 --> 01:16:11.256
clarifying government.

01:16:11.280 --> 01:16:13.496
Yes, you may counselor Helen.

01:16:13.520 --> 01:16:15.175
And not I'm not trying to be a stickler

01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:16.456
about this. I'm just wondering what are

01:16:16.480 --> 01:16:17.816
the different mechanisms for us

01:16:17.840 --> 01:16:20.616
allocating funding to particular reports

01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:22.456
here. You know, we we've heard in the

01:16:22.480 --> 01:16:24.215
past we've got limits on things like

01:16:24.239 --> 01:16:26.616
notices of motion for how much we can

01:16:26.640 --> 01:16:29.640
allocate there. Um but if we attach a

01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:33.736
funding request to a report, is there a

01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:35.416
limit? Like could we put a million

01:16:35.440 --> 01:16:38.440
dollars here in the report?

01:16:39.440 --> 01:16:41.976


01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:44.376
 I' I'd come back and and seek formal

01:16:44.400 --> 01:16:46.296
clarification, but I think in terms of

01:16:46.320 --> 01:16:47.736
the sentiment of the governance rules,

01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:50.135
those financial limits  relating to

01:16:50.159 --> 01:16:52.296
the notice emotions would be applicable

01:16:52.320 --> 01:16:54.536
in in this sense, albeit I'll come back

01:16:54.560 --> 01:16:56.856
and and confirm that for you.

01:16:56.880 --> 01:16:57.336
Thank you.

01:16:57.360 --> 01:16:59.256
I'll be happy to increase the value of

01:16:59.280 --> 01:17:00.536
the report. Should you like councelor

01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:03.496
Holidayiday?

01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:06.520
I will um keep the recommendation as or

01:17:06.719 --> 01:17:09.576
the alternate recommendation as is. We

01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:12.600
have a mover. We have a seconder. It is

01:17:13.520 --> 01:17:15.256
now an opportunity for the mover to

01:17:15.280 --> 01:17:17.816
speak. The community infrastructure plan

01:17:17.840 --> 01:17:20.840
is a real priority of mine and I believe

01:17:21.280 --> 01:17:23.175
 should be a priority of this council.

01:17:23.199 --> 01:17:26.199
This is really around identifying

01:17:27.440 --> 01:17:29.896
the gaps in our provision of community

01:17:29.920 --> 01:17:31.816
infrastructure and in meeting the

01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:34.056
challenges of the future. You know, we

01:17:34.080 --> 01:17:35.816
often remark that the city of Port

01:17:35.840 --> 01:17:38.616
Phillip on its own and also within the

01:17:38.640 --> 01:17:41.256
M9 is actually a high the M9 being the

01:17:41.280 --> 01:17:43.976
inner city metro and councils are high

01:17:44.000 --> 01:17:45.976
growth municipalities and the community

01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:48.135
infrastructure plan provides us with the

01:17:48.159 --> 01:17:51.159
scaffolding to identify what we have

01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:54.135
where the gaps are and what we need into

01:17:54.159 --> 01:17:56.536
the future. So the alternate

01:17:56.560 --> 01:17:58.056
recommendation

01:17:58.080 --> 01:18:01.080
3.4 4 3.5 gives that greater level of

01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:04.199
granularity around Lakeside and Domain

01:18:04.480 --> 01:18:06.376
which do need to be treated as high

01:18:06.400 --> 01:18:09.400
growth locations in their own right in

01:18:09.440 --> 01:18:11.256
 complementing Fisherman's Bend which

01:18:11.280 --> 01:18:13.096
we already recognize as being a high

01:18:13.120 --> 01:18:15.336
growth location in recognizing the

01:18:15.360 --> 01:18:17.896
pressures of those high growth areas and

01:18:17.920 --> 01:18:19.816
the community infrastructure that we

01:18:19.840 --> 01:18:22.616
know they need in the future that they

01:18:22.640 --> 01:18:24.616
need to be able to provide thriving

01:18:24.640 --> 01:18:26.376
inclusive

01:18:26.400 --> 01:18:27.896
sustainable

01:18:27.920 --> 01:18:30.920
connected ed communities. We all have at

01:18:31.120 --> 01:18:34.120
times have spoken around the impact of

01:18:34.239 --> 01:18:36.296
social isolation of being disconnected

01:18:36.320 --> 01:18:39.016
from society of being disconnected from

01:18:39.040 --> 01:18:40.616
communities.

01:18:40.640 --> 01:18:43.096
We need the granuality here to give us a

01:18:43.120 --> 01:18:45.496
roadmap so that as we continue building

01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:47.655
out the community infrastructure plan we

01:18:47.679 --> 01:18:49.976
have that detailed assessment of these

01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:52.776
areas. That is why I've put forward this

01:18:52.800 --> 01:18:54.456
alternate recommendation. The community

01:18:54.480 --> 01:18:57.016
infrastructure plan is fantastic work

01:18:57.040 --> 01:18:59.416
and I once again commend the officers

01:18:59.440 --> 01:19:01.816
for their work in developing this and

01:19:01.840 --> 01:19:03.576
getting it to this point and getting it

01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:06.135
to a point where now other councils are

01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:08.695
mirroring our approach in the regional

01:19:08.719 --> 01:19:10.296
forums that I've spoken at at both the

01:19:10.320 --> 01:19:13.096
M9 and the inner southern Mayor's 

01:19:13.120 --> 01:19:15.896
metro and Mayor's forum other councils

01:19:15.920 --> 01:19:17.816
are now adopting the approach that we're

01:19:17.840 --> 01:19:19.496
taking around community infrastructure

01:19:19.520 --> 01:19:21.576
planning both in terms of the meth

01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:23.655
methodology that we're working on as

01:19:23.679 --> 01:19:25.655
well as also taking a collaborative

01:19:25.679 --> 01:19:28.056
regional approach in looking at how we

01:19:28.080 --> 01:19:30.135
can better connect communities across

01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:31.655
council boundaries because let's be

01:19:31.679 --> 01:19:33.096
honest, the average person really

01:19:33.120 --> 01:19:34.936
doesn't care about council boundaries.

01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:37.496
This is how we actually build a network

01:19:37.520 --> 01:19:39.496
of community infrastructure to keep

01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:41.496
communities connected. I commend this

01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:43.976
plan. I commend the work and there's

01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:46.056
more work to be done to give us a

01:19:46.080 --> 01:19:47.976
roadmap for the future. I commend this

01:19:48.000 --> 01:19:50.456
motion.

01:19:50.480 --> 01:19:53.256
Deputy Mers, the floor is yours.

01:19:53.280 --> 01:19:56.280
Thank you, Mayor Min. Um, so

01:19:58.080 --> 01:20:01.080
this is, I'd say, condensed into this

01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:04.840
term, my life's work. Can I get

01:20:05.040 --> 01:20:07.336
something happening in Lakeside?

01:20:07.360 --> 01:20:10.360
Lakeside is a a unique situation in my

01:20:11.120 --> 01:20:14.120
view. It is a difficult question that

01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:17.816
has yet to be answered. It's very

01:20:17.840 --> 01:20:20.840
difficult. um those that have  been

01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:24.920
engaged before me have tried to come up

01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:28.056
with an answer and I know the council

01:20:28.080 --> 01:20:31.080
officers are trying very hard to come up

01:20:31.199 --> 01:20:34.199
with solutions in a very difficult

01:20:34.239 --> 01:20:37.175
situation. We've we've discussed tonight

01:20:37.199 --> 01:20:40.199
the difficulty in finding open spaces to

01:20:41.120 --> 01:20:44.120
to bring the sort of amenity that much

01:20:44.640 --> 01:20:47.640
of  Port Phillip  have

01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:51.336
and it is extremely difficult and

01:20:51.360 --> 01:20:54.360
perhaps that part of the question can't

01:20:54.400 --> 01:20:57.336
be solved  without a lot of money and

01:20:57.360 --> 01:21:00.360
we don't have a lot of money. I'm 

01:21:00.480 --> 01:21:03.480
satisfied that Lakeside has contributed

01:21:03.520 --> 01:21:06.520
to  funds more generally to  the

01:21:07.760 --> 01:21:09.576
city of Port Phillip in many different

01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:12.536
ways and that's fine by me but it's

01:21:12.560 --> 01:21:14.695
about time we turn things around a

01:21:14.719 --> 01:21:17.719
little bit for Lakeside and I'm speaking

01:21:18.560 --> 01:21:20.215
particularly for Lakeside. There are

01:21:20.239 --> 01:21:23.239
other areas in this  discussion. Um,

01:21:25.280 --> 01:21:28.280
so I think it's important that we have a

01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:32.840
real time opportunity to improve the

01:21:33.120 --> 01:21:36.120
amenity and lived experience of

01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:39.800
residents today, but most importantly in

01:21:40.400 --> 01:21:43.400
the future. If we don't make these

01:21:44.800 --> 01:21:47.800
changes or put in train changes to

01:21:48.560 --> 01:21:51.560
improve that amenity, we will forever

01:21:51.840 --> 01:21:54.840
lose the opportunity. As I speak, um

01:21:56.400 --> 01:21:59.175
those parts of S Kilda Road are being

01:21:59.199 --> 01:22:01.496
rapidly built out so that there's no

01:22:01.520 --> 01:22:04.376
space anywhere for anything. This is the

01:22:04.400 --> 01:22:07.400
only time or best time for us  and and

01:22:07.760 --> 01:22:10.760
have the opportunity to  put those

01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:14.056
sorts of things that other areas of Port

01:22:14.080 --> 01:22:17.080
Phillip are taken for granted. You can't

01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:19.976
 invent land. You've got to deal with

01:22:20.000 --> 01:22:22.296
what you've got.

01:22:22.320 --> 01:22:24.615
Um I say to my fellow councilors

01:22:24.639 --> 01:22:27.639
tonight, um the amount of $10,000

01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:31.976
is obvious request for this work to be

01:22:32.000 --> 01:22:35.000
done. Um, and money is a scarce item in

01:22:37.199 --> 01:22:39.256
the council and I appreciate that. But

01:22:39.280 --> 01:22:42.280
I'm asking for your support and I want

01:22:42.719 --> 01:22:45.719
you and I to be part of a council that

01:22:47.199 --> 01:22:50.135
sets in train changes that might be

01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:53.159
generational in terms of the outcomes

01:22:53.679 --> 01:22:56.056
for the people who've chosen to live in

01:22:56.080 --> 01:22:59.080
this area. and we can look back, they

01:22:59.199 --> 01:23:01.655
can look at a time when they can  have

01:23:01.679 --> 01:23:04.536
the sort of amenity or a form of amenity

01:23:04.560 --> 01:23:07.416
that we all  would like to see for

01:23:07.440 --> 01:23:10.215
everyone. So, I commend this this change

01:23:10.239 --> 01:23:13.239
this slight change to the  motion and

01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:16.600
um as I say, I request or hope for your

01:23:17.280 --> 01:23:19.816
support for the funding. Thank you.

01:23:19.840 --> 01:23:22.376
Thank you, Deputy Mers. Councelor

01:23:22.400 --> 01:23:23.175
Crawford,

01:23:23.199 --> 01:23:25.175
can I ask a clarifying question because

01:23:25.199 --> 01:23:27.256
I probably wasn't listening properly.

01:23:27.280 --> 01:23:29.976
Where's the $10,000 coming from?

01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:31.655
I'm not against it in principle, but we

01:23:31.679 --> 01:23:34.679
haven't identified where where

01:23:36.239 --> 01:23:39.239
 officers, if we can

01:23:39.360 --> 01:23:41.496
through through you, Mayor.  that is

01:23:41.520 --> 01:23:43.736
something that officers would need to

01:23:43.760 --> 01:23:46.536
consider and the recommendation allows

01:23:46.560 --> 01:23:49.560
for that.  there are a few different

01:23:49.679 --> 01:23:52.679
 options. um in part um because it is

01:23:53.360 --> 01:23:55.896
 related to community  facilities

01:23:55.920 --> 01:23:57.896
which enable social connection and

01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:00.920
cohesion.  there is unallocated funds

01:24:01.040 --> 01:24:04.040
in the social cohesion  fund that

01:24:04.159 --> 01:24:07.159
could potentially be used.  other

01:24:07.760 --> 01:24:10.615
other sources. We would look across 

01:24:10.639 --> 01:24:12.936
the organization and see if there was

01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:15.960
the ability to fund it from um you know

01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:19.800
other other funding sources. That would

01:24:19.920 --> 01:24:22.056
um have a slight impact on our ability

01:24:22.080 --> 01:24:25.080
to deliver savings, but it is $10,000.

01:24:25.440 --> 01:24:27.416
We'd need some time to consider and come

01:24:27.440 --> 01:24:29.256
and and come and talk to counselors

01:24:29.280 --> 01:24:31.336
about that.

01:24:31.360 --> 01:24:32.695
Can I

01:24:32.719 --> 01:24:34.296
So just with the clarifying of this

01:24:34.320 --> 01:24:36.536
because it is an amendment um or well on

01:24:36.560 --> 01:24:39.096
altre then if there was it was going to

01:24:39.120 --> 01:24:40.936
knock off something else that we have

01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:42.456
got in the pipeline you would come back

01:24:42.480 --> 01:24:45.336
to us to make a further decision through

01:24:45.360 --> 01:24:47.976
you may  yes we would talk to you

01:24:48.000 --> 01:24:50.296
about that as we've done  all along

01:24:50.320 --> 01:24:53.320
with those um  amounts of money that

01:24:54.320 --> 01:24:56.936
council has allocated within within the

01:24:56.960 --> 01:24:58.695
budget. We've talked to you through the

01:24:58.719 --> 01:25:01.576
briefing process and enabled you to

01:25:01.600 --> 01:25:04.600
consider and and weigh up  options 

01:25:05.600 --> 01:25:07.976
in the social cohesion fund. I think

01:25:08.000 --> 01:25:10.776
there's an amount of $50,000.

01:25:10.800 --> 01:25:12.936
Is that right, Christine?  that's

01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:15.175
currently unallocated

01:25:15.199 --> 01:25:18.199
 for the 2526 financial year. Um and

01:25:20.400 --> 01:25:23.256
 yeah, we obviously getting to getting

01:25:23.280 --> 01:25:25.256
close to the end of the financial year

01:25:25.280 --> 01:25:27.896
there. So there is an option there. Um

01:25:27.920 --> 01:25:30.376
if if that wasn't acceptable to council

01:25:30.400 --> 01:25:33.016
then we would need to find  find it

01:25:33.040 --> 01:25:34.695
from another source within the

01:25:34.719 --> 01:25:37.496
organization.  it is it is a

01:25:37.520 --> 01:25:40.520
relatively small amount.

01:25:42.239 --> 01:25:44.296
Any f any speakers to the motion now

01:25:44.320 --> 01:25:46.936
that we've clarified? Councelor Consol.

01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:49.960
Thank you. , I think $10,000 is an

01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:52.376
interesting amount because it seems like

01:25:52.400 --> 01:25:54.536
it's mostly going to a software company

01:25:54.560 --> 01:25:56.296
to generate some data, but that's

01:25:56.320 --> 01:25:58.296
important data. I think that it's a

01:25:58.320 --> 01:26:01.320
shame that this um area hasn't been

01:26:01.440 --> 01:26:04.440
given its own um

01:26:04.560 --> 01:26:06.135
I don't know page or whatever in the

01:26:06.159 --> 01:26:09.159
report because it does have such an a

01:26:09.199 --> 01:26:11.416
huge amount of growth. In the newer

01:26:11.440 --> 01:26:12.776
buildings, there's its own community

01:26:12.800 --> 01:26:15.416
that is well fostered.  there's older

01:26:15.440 --> 01:26:16.695
buildings in the area that doesn't quite

01:26:16.719 --> 01:26:18.456
have those same community rooms, etc.

01:26:18.480 --> 01:26:20.695
infrastructure within the buildings, but

01:26:20.719 --> 01:26:22.695
collectively it is a hard area that to

01:26:22.719 --> 01:26:25.719
come together. Um but it is wealthy in

01:26:26.400 --> 01:26:29.016
its opportunities for connection to the

01:26:29.040 --> 01:26:31.816
other to either Albert Park Lake or to

01:26:31.840 --> 01:26:33.816
Stonington and Melbourne areas. It's a

01:26:33.840 --> 01:26:35.896
really great place to live. I think this

01:26:35.920 --> 01:26:37.175
is important work and I will be

01:26:37.199 --> 01:26:38.695
supporting it tonight, but it's such a

01:26:38.719 --> 01:26:41.719
shame that's such a high number for just

01:26:41.920 --> 01:26:44.456
a small amendment. Going forward though,

01:26:44.480 --> 01:26:47.016
it's really important. Another point I

01:26:47.040 --> 01:26:48.776
think is really important to drive home

01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:51.256
again is that we need to look at what

01:26:51.280 --> 01:26:53.096
delivering these kind of community

01:26:53.120 --> 01:26:56.120
infrastructure um what that looks like

01:26:56.239 --> 01:26:58.376
in a vertical city. And it may be that

01:26:58.400 --> 01:27:00.056
we need to speak to developers and we

01:27:00.080 --> 01:27:02.936
need to ask them to implement that into

01:27:02.960 --> 01:27:05.960
their designs and how we especially if

01:27:06.159 --> 01:27:07.256
we're not the decision maker maybe

01:27:07.280 --> 01:27:08.615
there's no conflict of interest anymore.

01:27:08.639 --> 01:27:10.615
But when we are the decision maker how

01:27:10.639 --> 01:27:13.576
we can navigate that way but vertical

01:27:13.600 --> 01:27:16.600
cities we need to look at levels because

01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:19.256
 standalone building is not going to

01:27:19.280 --> 01:27:20.856
happen anymore with the prices of

01:27:20.880 --> 01:27:23.880
property.

01:27:24.480 --> 01:27:26.936
Any further speakers? Councelor

01:27:26.960 --> 01:27:28.536
Holidayiday.

01:27:28.560 --> 01:27:31.560
 thank you Mayor.  the community

01:27:32.239 --> 01:27:35.239
infrastructure work um has been 

01:27:37.199 --> 01:27:40.199
a a much needed

01:27:40.320 --> 01:27:43.320
um piece of work  for council. For a

01:27:45.360 --> 01:27:48.360
long time council has had a

01:27:48.400 --> 01:27:51.400
concentration of facilities of provision

01:27:51.840 --> 01:27:54.776
of of services and buildings and even

01:27:54.800 --> 01:27:56.615
sports fields those sorts of things in

01:27:56.639 --> 01:27:58.776
certain areas of the city. And I think

01:27:58.800 --> 01:28:00.296
this is the first time that we are

01:28:00.320 --> 01:28:02.135
seriously looking at that provision and

01:28:02.159 --> 01:28:05.159
the equity um of  different residents

01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:09.896
um across the city of Port Phillip as

01:28:09.920 --> 01:28:12.920
exemplified here by Lakeside Ward um

01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:16.520
where they have very few facilities 

01:28:17.679 --> 01:28:20.456
along that area and you know Fisherman's

01:28:20.480 --> 01:28:23.480
Bend again where we are seeing lots of

01:28:23.520 --> 01:28:25.816
population come into these areas. So I'm

01:28:25.840 --> 01:28:27.336
happy to support this. I think this work

01:28:27.360 --> 01:28:30.215
is very important. I'm very keen to see

01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:32.856
on the ground people seeing the results

01:28:32.880 --> 01:28:35.880
of this um this area and also happy to

01:28:36.080 --> 01:28:37.976
support the additional funding here

01:28:38.000 --> 01:28:40.135
notwithstanding my queries about it

01:28:40.159 --> 01:28:41.736
because I think it is important for us

01:28:41.760 --> 01:28:44.760
to find a pathway um for delivering

01:28:44.880 --> 01:28:47.016
additional services in these areas of

01:28:47.040 --> 01:28:49.256
lakeside ward and domain where you can

01:28:49.280 --> 01:28:52.280
see on the maps that there are um very

01:28:52.320 --> 01:28:54.456
few services. , so I've been a strong

01:28:54.480 --> 01:28:57.480
supporter of um equity of services and I

01:28:57.760 --> 01:29:00.536
think this goes directly to that. So I'm

01:29:00.560 --> 01:29:02.776
happy to support this tonight and um

01:29:02.800 --> 01:29:05.096
hope everyone else will. Thank you

01:29:05.120 --> 01:29:08.120
councelor Holidayiday. Further speakers,

01:29:08.159 --> 01:29:11.159
councelor Jay.

01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:15.816
Um, as a counselor who lives in the

01:29:15.840 --> 01:29:17.816
highdensity neighborhood within our

01:29:17.840 --> 01:29:20.840
domain um, precincts, I see firsthand

01:29:21.280 --> 01:29:23.655
both the opportunities and the gaps of

01:29:23.679 --> 01:29:26.215
how we are planning for our city. We're

01:29:26.239 --> 01:29:28.215
building upwards, creating vertical

01:29:28.239 --> 01:29:30.056
cities that attract diverse and growing

01:29:30.080 --> 01:29:32.615
populations. And these residents are

01:29:32.639 --> 01:29:34.615
contributing significantly to the

01:29:34.639 --> 01:29:37.496
community financially and in open space

01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:40.296
funding. They're doing their part. But

01:29:40.320 --> 01:29:42.536
we are really not seeing this investment

01:29:42.560 --> 01:29:45.416
reflected in our everyday lives. In

01:29:45.440 --> 01:29:47.576
highdensity communities, the space and

01:29:47.600 --> 01:29:49.816
the infrastructure are not optional.

01:29:49.840 --> 01:29:51.896
They're actually essential. When you

01:29:51.920 --> 01:29:53.816
don't have a backyard, your public space

01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:55.576
becomes your living room. Your park

01:29:55.600 --> 01:29:57.096
becomes your place to connect with

01:29:57.120 --> 01:29:59.736
people. And many residents still lack

01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:01.576
access to adequate green space,

01:30:01.600 --> 01:30:04.056
community facilities, and places to

01:30:04.080 --> 01:30:07.080
gather. Dog parks aren't just for dogs.

01:30:07.120 --> 01:30:09.416
to connect with other people in your

01:30:09.440 --> 01:30:11.576
community. This has got real

01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:13.496
consequences and we're seeing increasing

01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:15.336
loneliness and isolation in our

01:30:15.360 --> 01:30:17.976
community. Even in densely populated

01:30:18.000 --> 01:30:19.816
areas, people are living closer

01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:21.655
together, but we are not necessarily

01:30:21.679 --> 01:30:24.679
more connected.

01:30:26.080 --> 01:30:28.215
And in a community as diverse as ours,

01:30:28.239 --> 01:30:30.215
these shared spaces are vital. They

01:30:30.239 --> 01:30:32.536
support inclusion, well-being, and most

01:30:32.560 --> 01:30:34.215
importantly, a sense of community and

01:30:34.239 --> 01:30:37.239
belonging. Um we all need to rethink how

01:30:37.280 --> 01:30:38.776
we deliver the infrastructure in a

01:30:38.800 --> 01:30:41.096
vertical city and this means investing

01:30:41.120 --> 01:30:42.776
where growth is happening. It means

01:30:42.800 --> 01:30:45.175
being creative whether it's gardens,

01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:47.416
shared spaces, um working with

01:30:47.440 --> 01:30:50.440
developments, um activating you know um

01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:53.736
waterfronts like we were talking today.

01:30:53.760 --> 01:30:56.135
It also means being transparent about

01:30:56.159 --> 01:30:58.695
how funds are collected and spent. Our

01:30:58.719 --> 01:31:00.936
residents de deserve more than just

01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:03.816
density. They deserve livability.

01:31:03.840 --> 01:31:06.840
um happy to support this deputy may and

01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:09.736
um Mayor Min. I think the irony of

01:31:09.760 --> 01:31:12.376
living in a community that um supports

01:31:12.400 --> 01:31:14.456
open space contributions yet can't

01:31:14.480 --> 01:31:17.175
afford their own  is not lost on our

01:31:17.199 --> 01:31:19.256
community of over 10,000 residents. So,

01:31:19.280 --> 01:31:21.816
thank you and I hope everybody else can

01:31:21.840 --> 01:31:23.896
support this.

01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:26.920
Thank you, Councelor J. Other speakers.

01:31:27.440 --> 01:31:30.376
Councelor Crawford,

01:31:30.400 --> 01:31:33.400
I will support this altre  because I

01:31:33.760 --> 01:31:35.496
recognize the importance of the work and

01:31:35.520 --> 01:31:37.096
and I hope it goes to the councilors

01:31:37.120 --> 01:31:38.615
that sometimes we need to respond

01:31:38.639 --> 01:31:41.639
quickly to matters um and and process

01:31:42.080 --> 01:31:45.080
sometimes is not as clear-cut or as u

01:31:45.360 --> 01:31:47.576
mapped out as some people would like. So

01:31:47.600 --> 01:31:49.576
I'm making the point that sometimes

01:31:49.600 --> 01:31:52.135
there is a need to respond quickly and

01:31:52.159 --> 01:31:54.936
it's important as we as a group to do so

01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:57.336
flexibly and with open minds when the

01:31:57.360 --> 01:32:00.360
need is there. Thank you.

01:32:00.960 --> 01:32:03.960
Further speakers.

01:32:06.239 --> 01:32:09.239
No further speakers which case the mover

01:32:09.840 --> 01:32:12.695
can close.

01:32:12.719 --> 01:32:14.296
I think I said it last time that if you

01:32:14.320 --> 01:32:16.456
fail to plan, you plan to fail. And the

01:32:16.480 --> 01:32:18.856
community infrastructure plan is the

01:32:18.880 --> 01:32:21.416
plan that lets us succeed. This is a

01:32:21.440 --> 01:32:24.440
plan that actually helps us meet the

01:32:24.560 --> 01:32:26.296
challenges of vertical cities. And

01:32:26.320 --> 01:32:28.215
there's a lot of research that shows

01:32:28.239 --> 01:32:30.536
that vertical cities

01:32:30.560 --> 01:32:33.560
the role of connectivity of community

01:32:33.679 --> 01:32:36.056
engagement of community facilities of

01:32:36.080 --> 01:32:38.215
those third places is actually critical

01:32:38.239 --> 01:32:40.376
to providing connected communities in

01:32:40.400 --> 01:32:41.976
getting people outside of their own

01:32:42.000 --> 01:32:43.816
vertical towers and into the wider

01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:46.296
community. That's why this work is

01:32:46.320 --> 01:32:49.096
critical. This is work that had been

01:32:49.120 --> 01:32:51.655
ongoing for quite some time and now this

01:32:51.679 --> 01:32:54.376
is the progression of developing that

01:32:54.400 --> 01:32:57.336
work further. So this is committing to a

01:32:57.360 --> 01:32:59.576
plan that's been established and a plan

01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:02.536
that has a needs to have the rigor to

01:33:02.560 --> 01:33:05.560
enable us to really look at those

01:33:05.600 --> 01:33:08.215
peculiar differences of vertical cities

01:33:08.239 --> 01:33:09.736
of how we provide those community

01:33:09.760 --> 01:33:12.615
facilities and how we meet the

01:33:12.639 --> 01:33:15.175
challenges of tomorrow. So it's not just

01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:16.615
it's not about flexibility. It's

01:33:16.639 --> 01:33:18.376
actually about good planning. It's about

01:33:18.400 --> 01:33:20.296
good planning and good governance. And

01:33:20.320 --> 01:33:21.256
that is why this committee

01:33:21.280 --> 01:33:23.016
infrastructure plan and this alternate

01:33:23.040 --> 01:33:25.896
recommendation is critical.

01:33:25.920 --> 01:33:27.896
In closing the debate, I will put the

01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:30.920
motion.

01:33:31.520 --> 01:33:34.520
That is carried unanimously.

01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:37.336
And once again, great work to the

01:33:37.360 --> 01:33:39.816
council officers.

01:33:39.840 --> 01:33:42.840
That brings us now to item 8.2 two where

01:33:43.520 --> 01:33:46.520
I have declared a general  conflict of

01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:48.856
interest  due to a close association

01:33:48.880 --> 01:33:50.695
of a few of the members that have

01:33:50.719 --> 01:33:53.719
submitted. So would like to hand over to

01:33:54.159 --> 01:33:55.896
the deputy Mayor for your time to shine

01:33:55.920 --> 01:33:58.920
in the chair.

01:34:20.239 --> 01:34:23.239
Thank you councilors. Um item 8.2 the

01:34:25.440 --> 01:34:28.440
advisory committee nominations.

01:34:30.000 --> 01:34:32.456
Councilors are there any questions of

01:34:32.480 --> 01:34:35.480
the officers in relation to this report?

01:34:35.520 --> 01:34:38.520
Yes. Councelor Tumman.

01:34:39.120 --> 01:34:42.056
 just for the youth

01:34:42.080 --> 01:34:45.080
 committee  what's the age cuz I

01:34:46.719 --> 01:34:49.256
I've seen there's one person that is

01:34:49.280 --> 01:34:51.416
recommended on committee who's 24 years

01:34:51.440 --> 01:34:54.440
old so is that still considered young

01:34:54.480 --> 01:34:57.480
just say what's I don't know whether the

01:34:59.920 --> 01:35:02.920
thank you and through you may under 25

01:35:03.280 --> 01:35:06.280
yeah

01:35:07.679 --> 01:35:09.655
are there any other questions.

01:35:09.679 --> 01:35:11.496
So in that case, my following question

01:35:11.520 --> 01:35:14.376
is when that person turns 25 because

01:35:14.400 --> 01:35:16.135
it's for three or four years, what

01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:19.159
happens then?

01:35:20.000 --> 01:35:21.416
That's a good question. I'll take that

01:35:21.440 --> 01:35:23.576
one on notice. Yeah, I there's there's

01:35:23.600 --> 01:35:25.175
nothing in our  council committee

01:35:25.199 --> 01:35:26.536
framework or terms of reference that

01:35:26.560 --> 01:35:28.456
talks about that. Um so I'll have to

01:35:28.480 --> 01:35:31.480
come back to you. ask question.

01:35:33.520 --> 01:35:36.520
Are there any other questions

01:35:37.360 --> 01:35:40.360
on that?  so if we don't have them in

01:35:40.639 --> 01:35:42.215
the terms of reference now, would it

01:35:42.239 --> 01:35:44.215
help to add an amendment to say to

01:35:44.239 --> 01:35:47.239
review that item?

01:35:48.800 --> 01:35:51.016
Thank you. And through you, Mayor. Um

01:35:51.040 --> 01:35:52.536
yeah, that would be a good a good

01:35:52.560 --> 01:35:54.135
addition. Thank you.

01:35:54.159 --> 01:35:56.856
Okay. Thank you.  if Amy could help me

01:35:56.880 --> 01:35:58.135
with wording, that would be helpful.

01:35:58.159 --> 01:36:00.296
Thank you.

01:36:00.320 --> 01:36:02.376
Okay. Thank you. Do we have another

01:36:02.400 --> 01:36:05.400
question at all?

01:36:08.239 --> 01:36:10.376
Yes, councelor Thomann.

01:36:10.400 --> 01:36:13.400
 obviously there has been a very

01:36:14.560 --> 01:36:16.936
successful round of application 

01:36:16.960 --> 01:36:19.496
because you know there quite a few. So

01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:22.520
how  how were the 12 members of each

01:36:23.920 --> 01:36:26.920
committee or about that selected just

01:36:27.440 --> 01:36:30.440
through  looking at  the way people

01:36:30.800 --> 01:36:32.536
send in their resumes or a letter of

01:36:32.560 --> 01:36:35.016
interest or did you interview anybody or

01:36:35.040 --> 01:36:37.896
how did how were the the people selected

01:36:37.920 --> 01:36:40.920
to be on those committees?

01:36:41.440 --> 01:36:42.936
Thank you councelor Tomman and through

01:36:42.960 --> 01:36:44.936
you Mayor. Um the recruitment process

01:36:44.960 --> 01:36:47.095
was designed to be fair, transparent and

01:36:47.119 --> 01:36:49.976
consistent um across all committees. Our

01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:51.736
applicants were assessed against clearly

01:36:51.760 --> 01:36:53.816
defined selection criteria drawn from

01:36:53.840 --> 01:36:56.135
the terms of reference  and their

01:36:56.159 --> 01:36:58.536
expression of interest submissions.

01:36:58.560 --> 01:36:59.976
assessment was undertaken by officer

01:37:00.000 --> 01:37:02.856
panels working in pairs um combining a

01:37:02.880 --> 01:37:04.695
subject matter expert on the particular

01:37:04.719 --> 01:37:07.496
committee with an an objective second

01:37:07.520 --> 01:37:10.520
officer um to remove any sense of bias

01:37:10.800 --> 01:37:12.695
um or conflict of interest and diversify

01:37:12.719 --> 01:37:15.719
the  decision-m process  in the

01:37:15.760 --> 01:37:18.760
selection. um the this ensured balanced

01:37:19.199 --> 01:37:22.199
judgment um and consistency in scoring

01:37:23.520 --> 01:37:26.056
um so that when people were 

01:37:26.080 --> 01:37:27.496
interviewed and I apologize I haven't

01:37:27.520 --> 01:37:30.520
answered your so um for  the active

01:37:31.760 --> 01:37:33.576
aging committee there was an extremely

01:37:33.600 --> 01:37:36.600
high number of um applicants and so um

01:37:37.199 --> 01:37:40.056
beyond initial eligibility checking 

01:37:40.080 --> 01:37:42.135
there was a secondary screening process

01:37:42.159 --> 01:37:44.456
um that reduced that applicant pool 

01:37:44.480 --> 01:37:46.776
and then interviews occurred All

01:37:46.800 --> 01:37:49.095
applicants for  the multicultural

01:37:49.119 --> 01:37:51.016
advisory committee, disability advisory

01:37:51.040 --> 01:37:53.655
committee and LGBTIQA plus inclusion

01:37:53.679 --> 01:37:55.416
were interviewed or offered interviewed.

01:37:55.440 --> 01:37:58.376
Not all of them um took that opportunity

01:37:58.400 --> 01:38:01.336
up. Um and the youth advisory committee

01:38:01.360 --> 01:38:02.856
um people were there were only a very

01:38:02.880 --> 01:38:04.215
small number of people who screened out

01:38:04.239 --> 01:38:05.976
due to eligibility and then the rest

01:38:06.000 --> 01:38:09.000
were interviewed as well.

01:38:09.040 --> 01:38:11.416
Okay. Thank you. , I'll call on Kylie

01:38:11.440 --> 01:38:13.016
Bennett's, general manager, community

01:38:13.040 --> 01:38:15.095
well-being in respect of that previous

01:38:15.119 --> 01:38:17.816
question about the age. Thank you.

01:38:17.840 --> 01:38:20.615
, through you, Deputy Mayor. Um we've

01:38:20.639 --> 01:38:22.536
just had a little chance to confer and

01:38:22.560 --> 01:38:25.416
we would recommend um to council and we

01:38:25.440 --> 01:38:28.296
can work on an appropriate addition. 

01:38:28.320 --> 01:38:30.536
if you wish that um in in the case of

01:38:30.560 --> 01:38:33.560
the youth advisory committee  when

01:38:33.600 --> 01:38:36.600
when a member um is no longer eligible,

01:38:36.880 --> 01:38:39.880
so is older than  25, we would 

01:38:40.639 --> 01:38:43.496
recommend that their term concludes. Um

01:38:43.520 --> 01:38:46.056
so we could frame a recommendation in

01:38:46.080 --> 01:38:49.080
that manner if you wish.

01:38:49.280 --> 01:38:51.416
Thank you.

01:38:51.440 --> 01:38:53.976
Any other questions,

01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:55.816
Councelor Jay?

01:38:55.840 --> 01:38:58.536
Um, there was a lot of excitement at

01:38:58.560 --> 01:39:00.135
these committees and I'm still getting

01:39:00.159 --> 01:39:01.655
people stopping me in the street going,

01:39:01.679 --> 01:39:03.336
"How do I get on that committee?" And

01:39:03.360 --> 01:39:05.816
I've told them and it's closed. So, can

01:39:05.840 --> 01:39:08.135
you give us a public summary of of how

01:39:08.159 --> 01:39:11.016
we um how they can get on future

01:39:11.040 --> 01:39:13.496
committees or what they can do or where

01:39:13.520 --> 01:39:16.520
to keep an eye out or how often?

01:39:18.639 --> 01:39:20.296
Thank you councelor Jay and through you

01:39:20.320 --> 01:39:23.016
Mayor. Um yes so you're correct so the

01:39:23.040 --> 01:39:24.776
current process is closed and given that

01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:27.256
we had in excess of 100 applications

01:39:27.280 --> 01:39:29.496
from those who did become aware of the

01:39:29.520 --> 01:39:31.256
process we can see that high level of

01:39:31.280 --> 01:39:33.016
interest from community and that desire

01:39:33.040 --> 01:39:34.936
to be involved. I'll take a chance to

01:39:34.960 --> 01:39:36.695
comment that the quality of the

01:39:36.719 --> 01:39:39.719
applicants was extremely high. We we um

01:39:40.880 --> 01:39:42.536
it was more a decision of how do you

01:39:42.560 --> 01:39:43.896
have a balance committee than whether or

01:39:43.920 --> 01:39:45.175
not people were suitable. So I'll

01:39:45.199 --> 01:39:47.256
acknowledge I want to acknowledge that

01:39:47.280 --> 01:39:49.256
um there will be opportunities we think

01:39:49.280 --> 01:39:51.016
given that the term is tied to the

01:39:51.040 --> 01:39:54.040
council term now um and the ch in from

01:39:54.400 --> 01:39:57.400
past experience um people um potentially

01:39:57.520 --> 01:39:59.256
withdraw during the term of the advisory

01:39:59.280 --> 01:40:01.655
committee. So I think we'll revisit um

01:40:01.679 --> 01:40:03.256
through those vacancies opportunities

01:40:03.280 --> 01:40:04.856
for people who've been unsuccessful to

01:40:04.880 --> 01:40:07.175
step into those roles. um for people

01:40:07.199 --> 01:40:08.856
who've become aware of the opportunity

01:40:08.880 --> 01:40:11.095
too late, I guess it's it's a chance to

01:40:11.119 --> 01:40:13.976
clarify that um rather than committees

01:40:14.000 --> 01:40:16.936
being ongoing and indefinite that it

01:40:16.960 --> 01:40:19.256
will be now t to that council cycle and

01:40:19.280 --> 01:40:21.655
so we can um be confident that they'll

01:40:21.679 --> 01:40:24.056
have another opportunity to apply um in

01:40:24.080 --> 01:40:26.856
a future cycle of governance. Yeah.

01:40:26.880 --> 01:40:28.296
Councelor Timman,

01:40:28.320 --> 01:40:30.376
just as a follow-up question,  do we

01:40:30.400 --> 01:40:32.135
have a you know obviously we got an A

01:40:32.159 --> 01:40:34.056
list of people who have been successful?

01:40:34.080 --> 01:40:36.536
Do we have a B list? So if someone 

01:40:36.560 --> 01:40:38.456
resigns and is there's a spot could we

01:40:38.480 --> 01:40:41.256
appro you know is there a a be list 

01:40:41.280 --> 01:40:43.336
of people we can ask instead of starting

01:40:43.360 --> 01:40:45.736
the whole thing again. Thank you

01:40:45.760 --> 01:40:47.655
councelor Tman and through you may um

01:40:47.679 --> 01:40:49.896
yes so we've kept  everyone who was

01:40:49.920 --> 01:40:51.896
interviewed was was scored so we've got

01:40:51.920 --> 01:40:54.615
a matrix around suitability um and so

01:40:54.639 --> 01:40:56.536
applicants as I said you know up to 100

01:40:56.560 --> 01:40:58.856
pe more than 100 people applied for 60

01:40:58.880 --> 01:41:01.880
positions um so there is a a bank of um

01:41:02.239 --> 01:41:04.536
more than suitable community members who

01:41:04.560 --> 01:41:06.776
could step into those positions we've

01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:09.416
committed in the papers um presented to

01:41:09.440 --> 01:41:11.976
you tonight um that will bring in that

01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:13.576
instance when there are vacancies that

01:41:13.600 --> 01:41:15.655
we'd consult with council about those

01:41:15.679 --> 01:41:18.296
appointments. So, um  that that

01:41:18.320 --> 01:41:20.056
process would unfold, but we would have

01:41:20.080 --> 01:41:22.536
people that we could appoint to to all

01:41:22.560 --> 01:41:24.056
of the committees. I would note as well.

01:41:24.080 --> 01:41:25.256
Yeah.

01:41:25.280 --> 01:41:28.280
Thank you. Any final question

01:41:29.360 --> 01:41:30.776
councilors? We have an officer's

01:41:30.800 --> 01:41:32.615
recommendation before us. Would someone

01:41:32.639 --> 01:41:34.056
like to move this or something

01:41:34.080 --> 01:41:36.215
different?

01:41:36.239 --> 01:41:39.239
Moved. Councelor Toman. Seconded.

01:41:40.320 --> 01:41:43.320
Councelor Hardy.

01:41:44.719 --> 01:41:47.336
Just as just as a clarification point,

01:41:47.360 --> 01:41:50.360
the the item that

01:41:51.520 --> 01:41:54.056
sorry like Miss Bennett is talking.

01:41:54.080 --> 01:41:56.215
Sorry, I'm just running away.

01:41:56.239 --> 01:41:59.175
No, the the do we have to add that into

01:41:59.199 --> 01:41:59.816
recommendation?

01:41:59.840 --> 01:42:01.896
Yes, we're just working on for you.

01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:03.576
So if I maybe just wait.

01:42:03.600 --> 01:42:05.256
Can we just hold for one second?

01:42:05.280 --> 01:42:07.256
Councelor Turman, we'll just have a

01:42:07.280 --> 01:42:09.175
quick 5m minute break whilst there's

01:42:09.199 --> 01:42:11.816
some clarification being made

01:42:11.840 --> 01:42:14.840
to our discussion.

01:42:18.320 --> 01:42:21.320
5 minute break.

01:42:22.080 --> 01:42:25.080
Okay, we're we're back and I just want

01:42:26.080 --> 01:42:27.736
to confirm

01:42:27.760 --> 01:42:30.760
I want to confirm  councelor Tman has

01:42:31.440 --> 01:42:34.440
moved will move this and seconded by

01:42:34.880 --> 01:42:36.856
councelor Hardy.

01:42:36.880 --> 01:42:38.695
So yes, so I'm moving with this

01:42:38.719 --> 01:42:41.256
additional 3.6

01:42:41.280 --> 01:42:43.016
which I can't read because councelor

01:42:43.040 --> 01:42:46.040
Holidayiday is hiding it. So two 3.6

01:42:47.440 --> 01:42:49.416
authorized the chief executive office or

01:42:49.440 --> 01:42:52.440
the delegate to attempt to amend the

01:42:52.560 --> 01:42:53.976
eligibility criteria for the youth

01:42:54.000 --> 01:42:55.736
advisory committee so that the term for

01:42:55.760 --> 01:42:57.416
an individual concludes at the age of

01:42:57.440 --> 01:42:58.936
26.

01:42:58.960 --> 01:43:01.336
So  councelor Timman if you're happy

01:43:01.360 --> 01:43:03.016
with those words?

01:43:03.040 --> 01:43:03.736
Yes.

01:43:03.760 --> 01:43:06.536
And  do you wish to speak to the

01:43:06.560 --> 01:43:09.336
motion?

01:43:09.360 --> 01:43:11.736
Yes, councelor.

01:43:11.760 --> 01:43:13.976
 thank you Mayor. Does this proposed

01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:16.695
amendment align with our definition of

01:43:16.719 --> 01:43:19.719
youth and our you know obligations to

01:43:20.239 --> 01:43:23.239
people who are joining our um our

01:43:23.600 --> 01:43:26.376
advisory committees.

01:43:26.400 --> 01:43:29.400
 through you may give me a moment to

01:43:29.679 --> 01:43:32.679
doublech check that. Um it is an

01:43:33.360 --> 01:43:35.655
amendment um that has occurred in the

01:43:35.679 --> 01:43:37.336
chamber. So, if you can give me a moment

01:43:37.360 --> 01:43:40.296
to check that, um, that would be

01:43:40.320 --> 01:43:42.856
appreciated. Could I ask a follow-up

01:43:42.880 --> 01:43:44.856
technical question? Is it something that

01:43:44.880 --> 01:43:46.776
we could add at a future date so that

01:43:46.800 --> 01:43:47.976
we're not, do you know, I mean, where we

01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:50.296
actually can do thorough thinking so

01:43:50.320 --> 01:43:53.320
even we could amend that term given that

01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:56.296
the person's not about to turn 25

01:43:56.320 --> 01:43:59.320
tomorrow. I don't know. or to to this

01:43:59.440 --> 01:44:02.376
point, sorry, through your M.

01:44:02.400 --> 01:44:05.256
Might we give ourselves more flexibility

01:44:05.280 --> 01:44:08.215
on this alternate recommendation

01:44:08.239 --> 01:44:11.239
to investigate

01:44:11.360 --> 01:44:14.360
changes to the um whatever it is to the

01:44:15.920 --> 01:44:18.615
eligibility criteria

01:44:18.639 --> 01:44:21.576
um to ensure that members of the

01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:24.600
committee are eligible at all times. I

01:44:24.719 --> 01:44:26.296
don't know any other committees that

01:44:26.320 --> 01:44:28.296
this might apply to. But I just think

01:44:28.320 --> 01:44:30.456
that in obviously this finishes at the

01:44:30.480 --> 01:44:33.256
end of our term so in two years time 

01:44:33.280 --> 01:44:35.655
and for the next one maybe when you

01:44:35.679 --> 01:44:37.976
choose people you can choose the people

01:44:38.000 --> 01:44:39.416
a bit younger so they don't actually

01:44:39.440 --> 01:44:41.655
reach that age so it's just I suppose

01:44:41.679 --> 01:44:44.679
that very particular person who is 24

01:44:45.280 --> 01:44:48.280
who is has been selected so you know so

01:44:48.639 --> 01:44:49.816
I don't know it's

01:44:49.840 --> 01:44:52.840
through you may  or deputy Mayor um

01:44:53.760 --> 01:44:56.760
council  considers its um middle years

01:44:58.000 --> 01:45:01.000
and youth  service is targeted to

01:45:01.280 --> 01:45:04.280
young people aged 8 to 25.  the reason

01:45:06.400 --> 01:45:09.400
um for outlining the age of 26 there is

01:45:10.239 --> 01:45:13.095
that it enables a person to  continue

01:45:13.119 --> 01:45:16.056
to participate for the for the length of

01:45:16.080 --> 01:45:19.080
their 25th  year.

01:45:20.639 --> 01:45:23.496
Okay, I'm happy with it. Um councelor

01:45:23.520 --> 01:45:25.095
Thomann, do you wish to speak to this

01:45:25.119 --> 01:45:27.496
motion? I would  I would just like to

01:45:27.520 --> 01:45:30.520
say obviously we  were grabbling about

01:45:30.719 --> 01:45:32.536
the idea to keep in the committees or

01:45:32.560 --> 01:45:35.560
whatever. Um the fact that   there

01:45:36.320 --> 01:45:38.695
has been such enthusiasm about you know

01:45:38.719 --> 01:45:40.776
people wanting to join those committees

01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:42.776
means we've done the right thing at the

01:45:42.800 --> 01:45:45.576
time and  you know I thank all the

01:45:45.600 --> 01:45:47.736
people who have applied. I'm sorry for

01:45:47.760 --> 01:45:50.760
the people who have not got a job  on

01:45:51.199 --> 01:45:53.175
those who are role on those committees.

01:45:53.199 --> 01:45:55.976
 but congratulations to the people who

01:45:56.000 --> 01:45:58.376
are on the committees. Um and thank you

01:45:58.400 --> 01:46:01.095
for being prepared to  give us a bit

01:46:01.119 --> 01:46:02.856
of your time, your expertise, your

01:46:02.880 --> 01:46:05.880
knowledge, your love, your whatever 

01:46:06.000 --> 01:46:09.000
to make  our policies and decisions

01:46:09.760 --> 01:46:12.760
making better. Um I believe certainly

01:46:13.440 --> 01:46:15.976
believe in the work of committees on a

01:46:16.000 --> 01:46:19.000
couple and  I think it's good that we

01:46:19.600 --> 01:46:22.600
have like 12 people in each committees

01:46:23.360 --> 01:46:25.336
um cuz like at the end I think there

01:46:25.360 --> 01:46:27.655
were few have resigned and stuff. So

01:46:27.679 --> 01:46:29.736
know we have allowed ourselves to first

01:46:29.760 --> 01:46:31.496
to have a good group to start with and

01:46:31.520 --> 01:46:34.520
then to fill in the gaps  if some

01:46:34.560 --> 01:46:37.560
people resign or leave or  or

01:46:38.080 --> 01:46:40.296
whatever. But so thank you for all the

01:46:40.320 --> 01:46:43.320
people who have  put a hand up and 

01:46:44.320 --> 01:46:47.320
I'm wishing them well and in their

01:46:48.080 --> 01:46:51.080
discussions and corporate and and share

01:46:51.679 --> 01:46:54.679
their knowledge with us.

01:46:56.480 --> 01:46:59.016
Thank you councelor Thomann.  councelor

01:46:59.040 --> 01:47:01.016
Hardy do you wish to speak to the

01:47:01.040 --> 01:47:01.816
motion?

01:47:01.840 --> 01:47:04.135
Yes. I'm also boyed by the amount of

01:47:04.159 --> 01:47:06.056
interest from our residents in relation

01:47:06.080 --> 01:47:08.376
to these committees. I had a during the

01:47:08.400 --> 01:47:10.536
amalgamation period in 1997 I was

01:47:10.560 --> 01:47:13.175
appointed to the commissioners advisory

01:47:13.199 --> 01:47:15.095
committee upon the amalgamation of the

01:47:15.119 --> 01:47:17.416
shy of massen ranges. So I know how

01:47:17.440 --> 01:47:19.095
essential they are and I know how much

01:47:19.119 --> 01:47:21.655
input we put in and I know how much

01:47:21.679 --> 01:47:23.576
interest I had in relation to advising

01:47:23.600 --> 01:47:25.976
the commissioners. So I commend this

01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:28.936
motion.

01:47:28.960 --> 01:47:30.536
Thank you. Is there any other councelor

01:47:30.560 --> 01:47:33.560
who wish to speak to for or against this

01:47:33.679 --> 01:47:36.536
motion?

01:47:36.560 --> 01:47:39.560
Yes, councelor Buckingham.

01:47:39.760 --> 01:47:41.576
I'd like to add to the comments already

01:47:41.600 --> 01:47:44.600
thanking everyone that applied. Um and

01:47:44.880 --> 01:47:46.615
it's wonderful to see there's such

01:47:46.639 --> 01:47:49.639
strong interest. I just a message to the

01:47:49.760 --> 01:47:51.496
people that were not successful to

01:47:51.520 --> 01:47:53.976
please stay engaged. I know looking you

01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:57.000
know um at the strong interest there are

01:47:57.840 --> 01:48:00.296
lots of ways people can shape what we do

01:48:00.320 --> 01:48:02.456
here at city of Port Phillip and even if

01:48:02.480 --> 01:48:05.480
you aren't um on one of our committees

01:48:05.520 --> 01:48:07.095
um please stay engaged with our other

01:48:07.119 --> 01:48:09.095
consultation processes because your

01:48:09.119 --> 01:48:11.336
input is really valued and we're we are

01:48:11.360 --> 01:48:13.896
a better council for your work and your

01:48:13.920 --> 01:48:16.056
um insights.

01:48:16.080 --> 01:48:18.776
Thank you. Any other council wish to

01:48:18.800 --> 01:48:20.456
speak?

01:48:20.480 --> 01:48:22.936
Councelor Holidayiday just briefly again

01:48:22.960 --> 01:48:24.376
it's been a long time coming so it's

01:48:24.400 --> 01:48:26.296
great to get these committees um

01:48:26.320 --> 01:48:28.615
reformed in whatever form that they are

01:48:28.639 --> 01:48:31.639
now um so happy to get this

01:48:32.719 --> 01:48:34.615
Thank you councelor Holidayiday and I

01:48:34.639 --> 01:48:37.016
note that you've got a pile of lollies

01:48:37.040 --> 01:48:39.655
there which some of the other counselors

01:48:39.679 --> 01:48:42.679
have missed out on.

01:48:43.920 --> 01:48:46.920
Thank you. Um would the mover like to

01:48:47.199 --> 01:48:50.135
close the debate?

01:48:50.159 --> 01:48:53.159
Thank you.

01:48:53.440 --> 01:48:55.655
I'll now put the motion to a vote. All

01:48:55.679 --> 01:48:58.679
those in favor

01:48:59.840 --> 01:49:02.840
 that is moved unanimously.

01:49:04.080 --> 01:49:06.856
The motion is carried.

01:49:06.880 --> 01:49:09.175
And for the beef time I've spent up

01:49:09.199 --> 01:49:11.576
here, it's been a blast. Thank you.

01:49:11.600 --> 01:49:14.135
We'll get back. We'll get back the

01:49:14.159 --> 01:49:17.159
Mayor. Thank you. Great sharing.

01:49:18.080 --> 01:49:21.080
No real estate words.

01:49:44.400 --> 01:49:46.856
All right. Good to be back. I  missed

01:49:46.880 --> 01:49:49.736
you all.

01:49:49.760 --> 01:49:52.536
 we're on to item 12.1, councelor

01:49:52.560 --> 01:49:55.256
expenses, monthly reporting.

01:49:55.280 --> 01:49:58.215
Any questions for officers for this

01:49:58.239 --> 01:50:01.239
item?

01:50:01.440 --> 01:50:04.440
Is that a question? Councelor Crawford.

01:50:05.440 --> 01:50:08.440
Any questions for officers?

01:50:10.159 --> 01:50:12.376
You may put the motion.

01:50:12.400 --> 01:50:14.056
That is move. Councelor Holidayiday.

01:50:14.080 --> 01:50:16.456
Seconded. Councelor J. Does the mover

01:50:16.480 --> 01:50:18.936
wish to speak?

01:50:18.960 --> 01:50:21.960
Does the second wish to speak?

01:50:22.000 --> 01:50:23.576
Does any other counselor wish to speak

01:50:23.600 --> 01:50:25.896
to this motion?

01:50:25.920 --> 01:50:27.816
In which case, we shall be putting that

01:50:27.840 --> 01:50:30.840
motion. All those in favor?

01:50:32.320 --> 01:50:35.175
That is carried unanimously.

01:50:35.199 --> 01:50:37.736
Item 13.1.

01:50:37.760 --> 01:50:39.736
And I remember councelor Hardy had

01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:41.736
foreshadowed a question. So now's your

01:50:41.760 --> 01:50:43.416
moment to ask a question for this agenda

01:50:43.440 --> 01:50:45.816
item.

01:50:45.840 --> 01:50:47.976
13.1's plan for Port Phillip including

01:50:48.000 --> 01:50:51.000
the budget 2025 to35

01:50:53.119 --> 01:50:56.119
Hardy. Thank you. Your worship

01:50:56.800 --> 01:50:59.256
in  the statement of capital works

01:50:59.280 --> 01:51:01.655
under foot paths and cycleways. I've

01:51:01.679 --> 01:51:04.296
noticed for the this year there was

01:51:04.320 --> 01:51:06.536
5,563,000

01:51:06.560 --> 01:51:08.376
set aside

01:51:08.400 --> 01:51:10.615
 for the next year's proposed budget

01:51:10.639 --> 01:51:12.215
2627.

01:51:12.239 --> 01:51:14.856
There's 10,32,000

01:51:14.880 --> 01:51:17.175
set aside. I was just wondering why

01:51:17.199 --> 01:51:19.016
there's such a large jump in that

01:51:19.040 --> 01:51:22.040
figure.

01:51:25.119 --> 01:51:27.416
Over to Peter.

01:51:27.440 --> 01:51:29.816
Sorry, Peter B. Go

01:51:29.840 --> 01:51:31.175
through. Thanks for your question,

01:51:31.199 --> 01:51:33.816
councelor Hardy. Um the the explanation

01:51:33.840 --> 01:51:36.695
relates to  um a number of projects

01:51:36.719 --> 01:51:39.496
that are included in that budget. Um

01:51:39.520 --> 01:51:42.520
there is in effect  4  4.4 million

01:51:43.280 --> 01:51:46.135
allocated to two projects um in that 

01:51:46.159 --> 01:51:49.159
in that sum that includes the income and

01:51:49.599 --> 01:51:52.215
street safe travel corridor project um

01:51:52.239 --> 01:51:55.239
and a pedestrian crossing upgrade with

01:51:55.520 --> 01:51:57.655
where there's also external funding

01:51:57.679 --> 01:51:59.496
that's being provided towards those

01:51:59.520 --> 01:52:02.056
projects.  the sums al the project

01:52:02.080 --> 01:52:04.456
numbers also include a range of upgrade

01:52:04.480 --> 01:52:06.376
projects and works along the foreshore

01:52:06.400 --> 01:52:09.336
and other traffic and bike link um

01:52:09.360 --> 01:52:12.360
projects.

01:52:13.040 --> 01:52:15.416
Um and I could add that  the renewal

01:52:15.440 --> 01:52:17.655
components remained relatively static

01:52:17.679 --> 01:52:20.679
through the through both those years.

01:52:22.639 --> 01:52:25.016
Thank you. Any further questions for

01:52:25.040 --> 01:52:25.976
this item?

01:52:26.000 --> 01:52:28.695
I have a followup. You may councelor

01:52:28.719 --> 01:52:31.496
Hardy in total infrastructure at page

01:52:31.520 --> 01:52:34.520
282 there's the shrine to sea works of

01:52:34.960 --> 01:52:37.960
$3.5 million is that a rolling figure um

01:52:38.719 --> 01:52:41.256
like what happens if the shrine to see

01:52:41.280 --> 01:52:43.175
doesn't take  if there's no work done

01:52:43.199 --> 01:52:45.175
on it for this coming 12 months of the

01:52:45.199 --> 01:52:46.936
current budget period

01:52:46.960 --> 01:52:48.536
through you may thanks for your question

01:52:48.560 --> 01:52:50.135
councelor Hardy from what I understand

01:52:50.159 --> 01:52:52.296
that um project spans across two years

01:52:52.320 --> 01:52:54.215
it's fully funded externally state

01:52:54.239 --> 01:52:56.536
government funding  the project

01:52:56.560 --> 01:52:59.560
consists of um beautifification works um

01:52:59.840 --> 01:53:02.056
which is supplementary planting um

01:53:02.080 --> 01:53:03.736
interpretive signage and other

01:53:03.760 --> 01:53:06.056
artifacts. I'm not across granular

01:53:06.080 --> 01:53:07.575
detail of that project but it's

01:53:07.599 --> 01:53:08.936
certainly my understanding that there

01:53:08.960 --> 01:53:11.960
the project will span over two years.

01:53:13.599 --> 01:53:15.976
Any further questions? Councelor

01:53:16.000 --> 01:53:19.000
Buckingham.

01:53:19.119 --> 01:53:21.095
 I'd like to take up a question that

01:53:21.119 --> 01:53:24.119
we heard from um a community member this

01:53:24.880 --> 01:53:27.256
evening around the new St. Kilder

01:53:27.280 --> 01:53:30.280
Primary School Hall.  it is a

01:53:30.400 --> 01:53:33.400
wonderful um  win for the local

01:53:33.920 --> 01:53:35.496
community that the state government is

01:53:35.520 --> 01:53:37.416
investing in creating that new school

01:53:37.440 --> 01:53:40.440
hall. And my question goes to um

01:53:42.719 --> 01:53:45.719
to the question of can we in the later

01:53:45.760 --> 01:53:48.760
years of the budget  allocate some

01:53:50.639 --> 01:53:53.575
funding so that that hall is a truly

01:53:53.599 --> 01:53:56.599
multi-purpose community facility that um

01:53:57.679 --> 01:54:00.376
council can partner with the school in

01:54:00.400 --> 01:54:03.016
delivering

01:54:03.040 --> 01:54:05.175
 through you may  that would be a

01:54:05.199 --> 01:54:07.336
matter for council. Council would need

01:54:07.360 --> 01:54:09.896
to consider the range of community

01:54:09.920 --> 01:54:12.920
priorities  that it has. Um council

01:54:13.520 --> 01:54:15.896
has recently adopted  tonight its

01:54:15.920 --> 01:54:18.615
community infrastructure plan.  and

01:54:18.639 --> 01:54:20.776
that would certainly help guide um

01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:22.695
council's consideration of community

01:54:22.719 --> 01:54:25.575
requests and community need. Um I'm not

01:54:25.599 --> 01:54:28.599
sure if my colleague Peter wishes to add

01:54:29.040 --> 01:54:32.040
anything further to that.

01:54:35.520 --> 01:54:38.520
 through you may thank you Kylie. Um I

01:54:38.800 --> 01:54:41.800
I guess um the opportunity to review

01:54:41.920 --> 01:54:44.376
budgets is through our normal budget

01:54:44.400 --> 01:54:47.400
develop development cycle and certainly

01:54:47.520 --> 01:54:49.175
um for the final budget there's

01:54:49.199 --> 01:54:51.496
opportunity to consider that. Um having

01:54:51.520 --> 01:54:53.736
said that um it needs to be considered

01:54:53.760 --> 01:54:56.695
within the whole  budget portfolio and

01:54:56.719 --> 01:54:59.719
then you know obviously you add um

01:55:00.239 --> 01:55:03.239
projects in you probably need to reduce

01:55:03.440 --> 01:55:05.496
projects as well because the funding is

01:55:05.520 --> 01:55:08.520
within an envelope that's um we need man

01:55:08.719 --> 01:55:11.719
to maintain a financial sustainable um

01:55:11.760 --> 01:55:14.760
plan and so yeah

01:55:16.159 --> 01:55:19.159
councelor to oh sorry Brian T acting CEO

01:55:20.159 --> 01:55:23.159
I can just add  to that that um

01:55:24.000 --> 01:55:26.135
council was approached a number of years

01:55:26.159 --> 01:55:29.159
ago and has supported the bid by the

01:55:31.119 --> 01:55:34.119
school. Part of that support was the

01:55:34.320 --> 01:55:36.695
proposal as it's land that could be used

01:55:36.719 --> 01:55:39.655
for other um for could be used for

01:55:39.679 --> 01:55:42.679
community uses outside of school uses.

01:55:43.119 --> 01:55:45.016
That's a very different proposal to

01:55:45.040 --> 01:55:47.016
what's being put tonight. and we might

01:55:47.040 --> 01:55:48.936
get to what's been put tonight, but just

01:55:48.960 --> 01:55:51.960
to be um clear for the record, we we we

01:55:52.719 --> 01:55:55.719
would see that facility as something

01:55:55.760 --> 01:55:58.760
we'd have a conversation with to use.

01:55:59.840 --> 01:56:02.840
So, just to clarify, what's the process

01:56:03.040 --> 01:56:06.040
from here to like the the objective is

01:56:07.119 --> 01:56:09.496
to have a genuinely multi-use facility

01:56:09.520 --> 01:56:11.575
that addresses the needs as outlined in

01:56:11.599 --> 01:56:14.376
our infrastructure plan. What's the

01:56:14.400 --> 01:56:16.296
process from here going forwards over

01:56:16.320 --> 01:56:18.536
the next few years to achieve that

01:56:18.560 --> 01:56:20.856
objective?

01:56:20.880 --> 01:56:22.776
I I think the first part of that is the

01:56:22.800 --> 01:56:25.800
answer that um Kylie gave in terms of um

01:56:26.719 --> 01:56:28.615
and and indeed Peter in terms of a

01:56:28.639 --> 01:56:31.016
budget consideration in terms of a joint

01:56:31.040 --> 01:56:33.175
use facility. That's something that

01:56:33.199 --> 01:56:36.199
again um Kylie Bennett's team will have

01:56:36.239 --> 01:56:38.376
a conversation with either the

01:56:38.400 --> 01:56:40.135
department or the school in terms of

01:56:40.159 --> 01:56:42.296
those opportunities. Um and as I said

01:56:42.320 --> 01:56:44.456
the discussions a couple of years ago

01:56:44.480 --> 01:56:47.480
were were  early conversations around

01:56:48.159 --> 01:56:50.056
would we have a conversation around a

01:56:50.080 --> 01:56:52.456
joint use and  at that stage we

01:56:52.480 --> 01:56:54.936
indicated we would

01:56:54.960 --> 01:56:57.896
 through you may and just to add I

01:56:57.920 --> 01:56:59.575
understand there has been a submission

01:56:59.599 --> 01:57:02.296
made through the budget process and so

01:57:02.320 --> 01:57:03.896
there would also be an opportunity for

01:57:03.920 --> 01:57:06.615
council to consider that as part of

01:57:06.639 --> 01:57:09.639
finalizing it its budget. Councelor

01:57:11.440 --> 01:57:12.776
Timman

01:57:12.800 --> 01:57:14.456
just as a follow-up question. So I

01:57:14.480 --> 01:57:17.480
assume  that money might only be

01:57:17.920 --> 01:57:19.896
required in not in the next financial

01:57:19.920 --> 01:57:22.695
year but the year after  because you

01:57:22.719 --> 01:57:24.456
know it's not going to get built that

01:57:24.480 --> 01:57:27.256
quickly I suppose. So  but at the same

01:57:27.280 --> 01:57:30.280
time the school and their designers

01:57:30.480 --> 01:57:31.976
might need to know if that money is

01:57:32.000 --> 01:57:33.816
coming or not coming. So you know even

01:57:33.840 --> 01:57:36.840
if it's in the DSA 2728

01:57:37.040 --> 01:57:40.040
um and the next question is so how can

01:57:40.159 --> 01:57:42.695
we address that and secondly to come

01:57:42.719 --> 01:57:45.095
back to a previous question can open

01:57:45.119 --> 01:57:48.119
space money to be be used for because

01:57:48.800 --> 01:57:50.615
there is there is open space even if

01:57:50.639 --> 01:57:53.175
it's not our space but you know it is

01:57:53.199 --> 01:57:55.816
can can open space be used in that

01:57:55.840 --> 01:57:57.416
instance

01:57:57.440 --> 01:57:59.736
through you may I can answer perhaps the

01:57:59.760 --> 01:58:02.135
first part um and then my colleague

01:58:02.159 --> 01:58:04.135
Peter I talked to the open space

01:58:04.159 --> 01:58:07.159
component. Um today's  meeting in part

01:58:09.040 --> 01:58:12.040
is to hear um submissions on the budget.

01:58:12.560 --> 01:58:14.936
Um that's part of a process that council

01:58:14.960 --> 01:58:17.655
has in terms of finalizing its budget.

01:58:17.679 --> 01:58:20.215
 between now and later in June,

01:58:20.239 --> 01:58:22.615
council will give deep consideration to

01:58:22.639 --> 01:58:25.095
the community submissions that have been

01:58:25.119 --> 01:58:28.119
made.  consider the range of community

01:58:28.159 --> 01:58:31.159
need um and how that aligns with 

01:58:31.440 --> 01:58:33.016
things like the community infrastructure

01:58:33.040 --> 01:58:36.040
plan that was just adopted. Um it'll

01:58:36.080 --> 01:58:38.615
also give consideration to it its

01:58:38.639 --> 01:58:41.256
funding capacity to meet the need and

01:58:41.280 --> 01:58:44.280
and prioritization of community need. Um

01:58:45.040 --> 01:58:48.040
so in the short term  that that's how

01:58:48.239 --> 01:58:51.239
council can um consider  the request

01:58:51.920 --> 01:58:53.896
um that has come through this budget

01:58:53.920 --> 01:58:56.856
process and my colleague might make a

01:58:56.880 --> 01:58:59.880
comment on open space.

01:59:01.280 --> 01:59:03.976
Um through you may um thank you for the

01:59:04.000 --> 01:59:06.536
question counselor. I I guess comes back

01:59:06.560 --> 01:59:09.560
to the detail on what is proposed and

01:59:09.599 --> 01:59:12.376
I'm not across the the the full detail

01:59:12.400 --> 01:59:15.175
around what it is that they're asking

01:59:15.199 --> 01:59:17.976
for and what what the valuability of

01:59:18.000 --> 01:59:21.000
this facility is to to our public. Um

01:59:21.920 --> 01:59:23.736
there's a lot of elements from that

01:59:23.760 --> 01:59:26.056
regard that I need to make assessment

01:59:26.080 --> 01:59:29.080
on. Um so I'm not able to provide a

01:59:31.280 --> 01:59:34.215
definite response on this. I need to

01:59:34.239 --> 01:59:36.456
more information.

01:59:36.480 --> 01:59:39.480
I'll take that on notice. This question.

01:59:40.000 --> 01:59:42.296
Yes. Councelor Buckingham.

01:59:42.320 --> 01:59:45.320
Could I request that

01:59:46.639 --> 01:59:48.776
as the ward counselor, I get a briefing

01:59:48.800 --> 01:59:51.336
on these questions and how it could be

01:59:51.360 --> 01:59:54.360
considered coming back in June. I'm just

01:59:55.360 --> 01:59:57.655
keen to keep a a line of sight on this

01:59:57.679 --> 02:00:00.615
particular community submission

02:00:00.639 --> 02:00:03.496
like offline.

02:00:03.520 --> 02:00:04.776
We will get that

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will we will we get that

02:00:07.440 --> 02:00:09.736
 through through you Mayor. Um my

02:00:09.760 --> 02:00:12.760
understanding of the um process with all

02:00:13.440 --> 02:00:15.736
community submissions is that there will

02:00:15.760 --> 02:00:18.760
be a briefing  for all counselors on

02:00:19.280 --> 02:00:22.280
on those submissions coming up. Um I'm

02:00:22.719 --> 02:00:25.575
not quite sure of the date. Um but

02:00:25.599 --> 02:00:27.175
that's when council will have an

02:00:27.199 --> 02:00:29.175
opportunity to consider each of the

02:00:29.199 --> 02:00:30.936
submissions.

02:00:30.960 --> 02:00:33.896
 the potential response um and and

02:00:33.920 --> 02:00:36.376
what might be required to respond to

02:00:36.400 --> 02:00:38.215
those submissions. I'm not quite sure of

02:00:38.239 --> 02:00:41.239
the date of that briefing.

02:00:41.360 --> 02:00:44.360
Um through you may 

02:00:44.560 --> 02:00:47.175
there is a planned um councelor briefing

02:00:47.199 --> 02:00:50.199
on um the final budget deliberation and

02:00:51.599 --> 02:00:54.376
and that would involve  consideration

02:00:54.400 --> 02:00:57.016
of all community requests not just this

02:00:57.040 --> 02:00:59.655
one. Um so all all council will have

02:00:59.679 --> 02:01:02.679
opportunity to um to to um I guess um

02:01:04.719 --> 02:01:07.175
provide feedback on officers assessment

02:01:07.199 --> 02:01:10.199
of all  community request

02:01:10.960 --> 02:01:13.960
on the 10th 10th of June.

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Any further questions?

02:01:22.400 --> 02:01:23.655
No further questions. There's a

02:01:23.679 --> 02:01:25.816
recommendation before us as it pertains

02:01:25.840 --> 02:01:27.736
to the budget. I'll be moving that from

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the chair. So moved.  Mayor Min, do we

02:01:31.679 --> 02:01:33.655
have a seconder?

02:01:33.679 --> 02:01:36.679
Seconded. Councelor Holidayiday.

02:01:38.320 --> 02:01:40.615
 the mover will speak. I just do want

02:01:40.639 --> 02:01:43.639
to thank our community for speaking this

02:01:43.679 --> 02:01:46.679
evening on  the council budget and

02:01:46.800 --> 02:01:48.695
also for the early engagement that they

02:01:48.719 --> 02:01:51.256
undertook starting  from November last

02:01:51.280 --> 02:01:54.280
year. So this year we opened the

02:01:54.480 --> 02:01:57.016
submission process earlier with the aim

02:01:57.040 --> 02:01:59.175
of actually helping to co-design the

02:01:59.199 --> 02:02:02.199
budget. So having the committee feedback

02:02:02.960 --> 02:02:05.256
in parallel to as councilors were

02:02:05.280 --> 02:02:06.936
working through the budget has really

02:02:06.960 --> 02:02:09.655
helped us understand community

02:02:09.679 --> 02:02:11.016
priorities and where they align with

02:02:11.040 --> 02:02:12.776
councelor priorities and how we can

02:02:12.800 --> 02:02:15.256
really build that into the budget build.

02:02:15.280 --> 02:02:17.336
So do want to thank members of the

02:02:17.360 --> 02:02:19.256
community who helped reinforce their

02:02:19.280 --> 02:02:21.896
submissions this evening.

02:02:21.920 --> 02:02:23.736
and for the work that they do in the

02:02:23.760 --> 02:02:26.135
community as well  across a number of

02:02:26.159 --> 02:02:28.936
services across a number of facilities

02:02:28.960 --> 02:02:31.256
in working for the betterment of our

02:02:31.280 --> 02:02:33.575
community. So do applaud everyone that

02:02:33.599 --> 02:02:36.456
has taken the time to engage through the

02:02:36.480 --> 02:02:39.480
budget process

02:02:39.520 --> 02:02:42.135
wish to speak.

02:02:42.159 --> 02:02:44.456
 thank you Mayor. Look I'd like to um

02:02:44.480 --> 02:02:46.296
reinforce your comments there. I think

02:02:46.320 --> 02:02:49.320
that the um as as evidenced tonight by

02:02:51.199 --> 02:02:53.816
um actually fewer people here on the

02:02:53.840 --> 02:02:55.816
night of hearing the budget, I think the

02:02:55.840 --> 02:02:57.175
process of bringing forward the

02:02:57.199 --> 02:03:00.199
community submissions earlier has

02:03:00.400 --> 02:03:02.615
improved the budget process because

02:03:02.639 --> 02:03:04.776
we've had time to fully consider and

02:03:04.800 --> 02:03:06.856
fully incorporate those community

02:03:06.880 --> 02:03:09.575
submissions or not quite fully in this

02:03:09.599 --> 02:03:10.296
case.

02:03:10.320 --> 02:03:12.776
late late breaking ones come later, but

02:03:12.800 --> 02:03:14.695
um to incorporate those community

02:03:14.719 --> 02:03:17.256
submissions earlier into the budget and

02:03:17.280 --> 02:03:19.896
inform people better about the budget

02:03:19.920 --> 02:03:21.575
process and engage people better in the

02:03:21.599 --> 02:03:24.599
budget process. Obviously, we are still

02:03:24.719 --> 02:03:27.095
seeing things come up late  in the

02:03:27.119 --> 02:03:29.416
budget process and we need to um be

02:03:29.440 --> 02:03:32.440
flexible around that. , and I think

02:03:32.719 --> 02:03:35.496
just um,

02:03:35.520 --> 02:03:38.520
as an aside, I think that you need a

02:03:39.199 --> 02:03:42.199
budget as a council. , and we have a

02:03:43.360 --> 02:03:45.655
budget here and we should vote for the

02:03:45.679 --> 02:03:48.679
budget here , tonight.

02:03:49.760 --> 02:03:51.016
Councelor Crawford,

02:03:51.040 --> 02:03:53.336
can I just just say they're not late as

02:03:53.360 --> 02:03:54.456
they're coming in. That's part of the

02:03:54.480 --> 02:03:55.816
process. Just want to clarify to the

02:03:55.840 --> 02:03:57.016
community that

02:03:57.040 --> 02:03:59.416
are you speaking to the motion?

02:03:59.440 --> 02:04:00.856
I am speaking to the motion. I just want

02:04:00.880 --> 02:04:02.376
to clarify councelor Holidayiday's point

02:04:02.400 --> 02:04:03.816
that no submissions that have come

02:04:03.840 --> 02:04:05.336
tonight or in the last few weeks are

02:04:05.360 --> 02:04:07.336
late. This is a part of a process. We've

02:04:07.360 --> 02:04:10.135
tried a new thing. So you are completely

02:04:10.159 --> 02:04:12.296
 on I just wanted to that's important.

02:04:12.320 --> 02:04:13.816
Um so thank you for everyone who came

02:04:13.840 --> 02:04:15.336
tonight.

02:04:15.360 --> 02:04:18.360
Any other speakers to the motion?

02:04:18.400 --> 02:04:21.400
Councelor Jay.

02:04:21.840 --> 02:04:24.215
Um we really appreciate when people come

02:04:24.239 --> 02:04:26.056
in and speak to us. It makes a really

02:04:26.080 --> 02:04:27.575
big difference seeing you here and

02:04:27.599 --> 02:04:29.175
hearing it in your voice and hearing

02:04:29.199 --> 02:04:31.016
your lived experience. So I just really

02:04:31.040 --> 02:04:33.575
want to thank um both the there was

02:04:33.599 --> 02:04:36.215
mostly I think Ecoenter and PCYC both

02:04:36.239 --> 02:04:38.215
really important parts of our community

02:04:38.239 --> 02:04:40.296
and thank everyone for taking their time

02:04:40.320 --> 02:04:42.695
on a cold autumn night to come see us.

02:04:42.719 --> 02:04:45.655
So I appreciate it.

02:04:45.679 --> 02:04:47.896
Any

02:04:47.920 --> 02:04:50.920
 further speakers to the motion

02:04:53.520 --> 02:04:56.376
to clarify this evening we're  voting

02:04:56.400 --> 02:04:58.695
on thanking the committee feedback and

02:04:58.719 --> 02:05:00.776
hearing that feedback this evening. Any

02:05:00.800 --> 02:05:03.800
further speakers on this item?

02:05:05.040 --> 02:05:07.736
All right, move it to close. Once again

02:05:07.760 --> 02:05:10.695
thank our community has they've engaged

02:05:10.719 --> 02:05:12.135
throughout the process whether through

02:05:12.159 --> 02:05:14.856
the early engagement whether through the

02:05:14.880 --> 02:05:17.416
formal statutory process of consultation

02:05:17.440 --> 02:05:19.575
and obviously here through tonight. You

02:05:19.599 --> 02:05:21.655
know local government's quite unique in

02:05:21.679 --> 02:05:23.575
that the community can actually provide

02:05:23.599 --> 02:05:26.599
feedback on a council budget. It is a

02:05:26.800 --> 02:05:28.776
lot harder to do that at a state and

02:05:28.800 --> 02:05:30.296
commonwealth level. Here in local

02:05:30.320 --> 02:05:32.056
government, not only can you put in

02:05:32.080 --> 02:05:33.655
forward the submission, you can also

02:05:33.679 --> 02:05:35.736
speak to it as well and see how it

02:05:35.760 --> 02:05:37.736
progresses. So, our community is

02:05:37.760 --> 02:05:40.760
stronger for it and as is this council.

02:05:40.880 --> 02:05:43.095
So, once again, commend everyone that's

02:05:43.119 --> 02:05:46.119
been engaged through the process and 

02:05:46.639 --> 02:05:48.936
helping us co-design and co-build the

02:05:48.960 --> 02:05:51.896
budget together. I will be putting the

02:05:51.920 --> 02:05:54.920
motion. All those in favor

02:05:57.119 --> 02:06:00.119
that is carried unanimously.

02:06:02.480 --> 02:06:05.480
All right.  that takes us to 13.2. I

02:06:05.840 --> 02:06:07.496
have had a request for a 10-minute

02:06:07.520 --> 02:06:09.575
break, which I will be honoring. So,

02:06:09.599 --> 02:06:12.599
we'll come back at 5 9

02:06:14.960 --> 02:06:17.960
and we're back slightly slightly later

02:06:18.000 --> 02:06:20.536
than 5 9 but  good to be back

02:06:20.560 --> 02:06:23.560
councelor Tom. Welcome back.

02:06:27.520 --> 02:06:30.520
We're on to item 13.2, the third quarter

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2526 financial review. Any questions for

02:06:33.920 --> 02:06:36.920
officers?

02:06:41.040 --> 02:06:44.040
No questions for officers

02:06:46.960 --> 02:06:49.095
in which case there's a recommendation

02:06:49.119 --> 02:06:50.936
before us. Would we like to put the

02:06:50.960 --> 02:06:52.055
recommendation or something different?

02:06:52.079 --> 02:06:55.079
Councelor Buckingham please

02:06:55.760 --> 02:06:56.776
amend

02:06:56.800 --> 02:06:58.936
an alternate recommendation.

02:06:58.960 --> 02:07:00.055
Yep.

02:07:00.079 --> 02:07:03.079
Sorry.

02:07:03.520 --> 02:07:06.520
Could I please propose an alternative

02:07:06.800 --> 02:07:07.976
recommendation?

02:07:08.000 --> 02:07:10.456
Yes.

02:07:10.480 --> 02:07:11.175
Should I read it?

02:07:11.199 --> 02:07:13.095
, yes. You do need to read the red.

02:07:13.119 --> 02:07:15.655
, acknowledges the importance of PCYC

02:07:15.679 --> 02:07:17.256
and thanks the new board for their

02:07:17.280 --> 02:07:19.896
community service. Notes that a briefing

02:07:19.920 --> 02:07:22.920
is scheduled for Wednesday, 27 May 2026

02:07:23.440 --> 02:07:25.336
to enable councilors to understand in

02:07:25.360 --> 02:07:27.175
more detail the request for support

02:07:27.199 --> 02:07:29.575
received from PCYC.

02:07:29.599 --> 02:07:31.575
requests that following this briefing, a

02:07:31.599 --> 02:07:34.296
report is brought back to council at the

02:07:34.320 --> 02:07:35.816
3June

02:07:35.840 --> 02:07:38.615
meeting on funding options that council

02:07:38.639 --> 02:07:41.175
could consider to support PCYC and its

02:07:41.199 --> 02:07:43.575
efforts to reopen the gym and stabilize

02:07:43.599 --> 02:07:46.599
this important community service.

02:07:47.040 --> 02:07:48.776
Requests that the report considers

02:07:48.800 --> 02:07:51.800
funding options in the 202526 financial

02:07:51.920 --> 02:07:54.920
year and in future budgets.

02:07:56.480 --> 02:07:57.976
Thank you, Councelor Buckingham. There's

02:07:58.000 --> 02:07:59.976
an alternate recommendation before us.

02:08:00.000 --> 02:08:02.376
Is there a second?

02:08:02.400 --> 02:08:04.215
Can I add a word?

02:08:04.239 --> 02:08:07.239
 yes. What is your word in the same

02:08:07.520 --> 02:08:09.496
thing where it says thanks the new board

02:08:09.520 --> 02:08:11.736
and can we add and wish them well or

02:08:11.760 --> 02:08:12.776
something like that because obviously

02:08:12.800 --> 02:08:15.800
they have a lot of work to do.

02:08:22.639 --> 02:08:24.215
Buckingham. It is your alternate

02:08:24.239 --> 02:08:25.496
recommendation. It's up to you whether

02:08:25.520 --> 02:08:28.296
you wish to word smith.

02:08:28.320 --> 02:08:29.816
I really think this alternative

02:08:29.840 --> 02:08:32.840
recommendation goes to  further

02:08:33.280 --> 02:08:34.776
investigation of the support that

02:08:34.800 --> 02:08:37.736
council can provide to PCYC. So I'd like

02:08:37.760 --> 02:08:40.760
to just keep it as it is.

02:08:41.199 --> 02:08:42.615
Are you comfortable with that councelor

02:08:42.639 --> 02:08:43.976
Tomman?

02:08:44.000 --> 02:08:47.000
Yep. Great.  all right. So is there a

02:08:47.920 --> 02:08:49.256
seconder to the alternate

02:08:49.280 --> 02:08:51.416
recommendation? That is seconded.

02:08:51.440 --> 02:08:54.440
Councelor Holidayiday,

02:08:55.040 --> 02:08:56.856
any further points of clarification to

02:08:56.880 --> 02:08:59.175
the alternate recommendation in which

02:08:59.199 --> 02:09:01.575
Yes. Councelor Jay, you wish to clarify?

02:09:01.599 --> 02:09:04.055
Yeah, we had some um conversations about

02:09:04.079 --> 02:09:06.135
perhaps engaging with  surrounding

02:09:06.159 --> 02:09:08.135
councils. Is that too prescriptive for

02:09:08.159 --> 02:09:10.055
for this part of it? Is this just more

02:09:10.079 --> 02:09:13.079
of a general um note to move on

02:09:15.280 --> 02:09:17.016
through through you Mayor? I can

02:09:17.040 --> 02:09:20.040
clarify. um in I think it was last year

02:09:20.400 --> 02:09:23.016
we have previously contacted 

02:09:23.040 --> 02:09:25.655
surrounding councils um it was a a

02:09:25.679 --> 02:09:28.456
different board um at that time but we

02:09:28.480 --> 02:09:31.480
did contact um surrounding councils um

02:09:31.920 --> 02:09:34.776
and there wasn't an interest to partner

02:09:34.800 --> 02:09:37.800
at that time um so I would just indicate

02:09:38.159 --> 02:09:41.159
that also  it would be difficult  to

02:09:41.920 --> 02:09:44.615
do that and meet the requirements to

02:09:44.639 --> 02:09:46.776
brief next week and bring a report back

02:09:46.800 --> 02:09:49.800
to the next council meeting

02:09:50.000 --> 02:09:52.376
perhaps  just on that point to clarify

02:09:52.400 --> 02:09:54.856
councelor Buckingham you're putting

02:09:54.880 --> 02:09:56.135
forward this alternate recommendation

02:09:56.159 --> 02:09:57.496
the priority is really at social

02:09:57.520 --> 02:10:00.520
enterprise aspect  to help PCYC

02:10:02.159 --> 02:10:04.055
support  the social enterprise that

02:10:04.079 --> 02:10:05.416
could then be reinvested in the rest of

02:10:05.440 --> 02:10:07.016
the organization that is my

02:10:07.040 --> 02:10:08.376
interpretation of your alternate

02:10:08.400 --> 02:10:10.936
recommendation correct

02:10:10.960 --> 02:10:13.016
the alternative recommendation responds

02:10:13.040 --> 02:10:16.040
to a request from PCYC for  $22,000

02:10:19.199 --> 02:10:22.199
to  do minor maintenance work that

02:10:22.560 --> 02:10:25.496
will enable the reopening of the gym

02:10:25.520 --> 02:10:28.055
which subsidizes their youth programs

02:10:28.079 --> 02:10:31.079
and is their main source of revenue.

02:10:32.079 --> 02:10:34.776
Thank you for clarifying. Thank you. 

02:10:34.800 --> 02:10:36.456
any further points of clarification

02:10:36.480 --> 02:10:38.695
before I move I provide the floor to the

02:10:38.719 --> 02:10:41.719
mover to open the debate?

02:10:42.159 --> 02:10:44.536
Over to you councelor Buckingham to open

02:10:44.560 --> 02:10:45.896
the debate.

02:10:45.920 --> 02:10:48.920
We heard from speakers tonight about the

02:10:48.960 --> 02:10:51.960
important role of the PCYC

02:10:52.159 --> 02:10:55.159
that it is a historic organization

02:10:56.239 --> 02:10:59.239
that gives young people a place a safe

02:11:00.239 --> 02:11:03.239
place to be. I think in the context of

02:11:04.320 --> 02:11:06.536
 the debates around community safety,

02:11:06.560 --> 02:11:09.496
antisocial behavior, engagement,

02:11:09.520 --> 02:11:11.655
loneliness that we we've had in this

02:11:11.679 --> 02:11:14.679
chamber. The PCYC is an example of a

02:11:15.520 --> 02:11:18.296
community organization that is working

02:11:18.320 --> 02:11:20.536
and doing

02:11:20.560 --> 02:11:23.016
doing and staging the activities that

02:11:23.040 --> 02:11:25.016
really go to the core of what our

02:11:25.040 --> 02:11:27.256
community is about.

02:11:27.280 --> 02:11:29.655
They have hit

02:11:29.679 --> 02:11:32.296
some very turbulent times and the

02:11:32.320 --> 02:11:34.695
community has been amazing in how

02:11:34.719 --> 02:11:37.256
they've risen up and organized and

02:11:37.280 --> 02:11:40.280
reconfigured their board and um they've

02:11:41.679 --> 02:11:43.256
got a plan for how to make this

02:11:43.280 --> 02:11:45.976
organization sustainable into the future

02:11:46.000 --> 02:11:48.296
and continuing to offer the youth

02:11:48.320 --> 02:11:50.695
programs that engage some of our most

02:11:50.719 --> 02:11:53.719
vulnerable  young people.

02:11:54.159 --> 02:11:57.159
So, they have come to council seeking

02:11:58.159 --> 02:12:01.159
$22,000 for modest maintenance upgrades

02:12:03.119 --> 02:12:05.575
and those upgrades will enable the

02:12:05.599 --> 02:12:07.175
reopening of the gym and they'll be able

02:12:07.199 --> 02:12:10.135
to rebuild their membership base and um

02:12:10.159 --> 02:12:13.159
their revenue and it's an incredibly

02:12:13.679 --> 02:12:15.976
important step for them to be

02:12:16.000 --> 02:12:17.896
financially sustainable into the long

02:12:17.920 --> 02:12:20.920
run. They've also come with a budget bid

02:12:21.280 --> 02:12:24.280
for more funding for um more substantive

02:12:24.480 --> 02:12:26.215
support for their youth programs that

02:12:26.239 --> 02:12:27.575
needs to be considered through the

02:12:27.599 --> 02:12:29.976
budget process alongside all the other

02:12:30.000 --> 02:12:32.456
very worthy bids that we've heard about

02:12:32.480 --> 02:12:33.736
 tonight and we've read about

02:12:33.760 --> 02:12:36.760
throughout the budget process. So this

02:12:36.960 --> 02:12:38.936
amendment

02:12:38.960 --> 02:12:41.960
seeks to bring back um a report in a

02:12:43.119 --> 02:12:45.655
timely fashion because every week we

02:12:45.679 --> 02:12:48.376
lose is time that they don't have

02:12:48.400 --> 02:12:50.135
memberships and revenue money coming

02:12:50.159 --> 02:12:53.159
through their doors. So we need um the

02:12:53.520 --> 02:12:56.520
briefing to happen ASAP. We need 

02:12:56.719 --> 02:12:59.336
councilors to fully understand their op

02:12:59.360 --> 02:13:02.360
new operating model and we need to um

02:13:03.040 --> 02:13:05.976
look at how we can provide the immediate

02:13:06.000 --> 02:13:09.000
funding ask as soon as we can. I'm

02:13:10.079 --> 02:13:12.296
just more broadly about the budget the

02:13:12.320 --> 02:13:14.856
update. Um considering some of the

02:13:14.880 --> 02:13:16.615
challenges we as a council have faced

02:13:16.639 --> 02:13:19.639
this year, it is um wonderful to see

02:13:20.400 --> 02:13:22.695
that we actually still have some unspent

02:13:22.719 --> 02:13:25.719
funds. You know, um as a council, we

02:13:26.400 --> 02:13:28.695
decided to put significant money towards

02:13:28.719 --> 02:13:30.615
social cohesion cuz we saw it as a

02:13:30.639 --> 02:13:32.615
community need. And there's still, as we

02:13:32.639 --> 02:13:33.896
heard earlier tonight, there's still

02:13:33.920 --> 02:13:36.615
$50,000 there in that fund this

02:13:36.639 --> 02:13:39.416
financial year. So we actually are in

02:13:39.440 --> 02:13:42.296
quite a strong position to consider this

02:13:42.320 --> 02:13:45.175
funding asked by PCYC.

02:13:45.199 --> 02:13:47.976
So this is why I've um requested the

02:13:48.000 --> 02:13:50.536
report back for the next council meeting

02:13:50.560 --> 02:13:53.560
and why um I believe that it is an

02:13:53.599 --> 02:13:56.599
urgent and necessary ask.

02:13:57.119 --> 02:13:58.615
The mover is open to debate. Does the

02:13:58.639 --> 02:14:01.256
second wish to speak?

02:14:01.280 --> 02:14:04.280
 thank you Mayor. Um, look, I was

02:14:05.119 --> 02:14:07.736
incredibly moved um by the speakers

02:14:07.760 --> 02:14:10.760
tonight um sharing the impact the PCYC

02:14:11.599 --> 02:14:14.599
had on them and the wider community. Um,

02:14:15.199 --> 02:14:18.199
this for our area um and especially in

02:14:18.960 --> 02:14:20.776
the area of Incman Street there, which

02:14:20.800 --> 02:14:23.800
is, you know, an area of um massive

02:14:24.159 --> 02:14:27.159
underprivilege. Um, PCYC has been an

02:14:27.520 --> 02:14:30.520
anchor for a long time and I would be um

02:14:32.159 --> 02:14:35.159
I would be um disappointed if we didn't

02:14:37.360 --> 02:14:40.055
um afford them the opportunities to get

02:14:40.079 --> 02:14:43.079
themselves back on their feet. Um and

02:14:43.520 --> 02:14:45.175
especially in the context of tonight

02:14:45.199 --> 02:14:46.695
where we're having this big discussion

02:14:46.719 --> 02:14:49.655
about community infrastructure and the

02:14:49.679 --> 02:14:51.896
challenges we have in supplying

02:14:51.920 --> 02:14:54.536
community infrastructure to all of the

02:14:54.560 --> 02:14:57.336
areas of our city where we have a

02:14:57.360 --> 02:15:00.360
community group doing it for it for us

02:15:00.719 --> 02:15:03.719
in this area for an incredibly low cost.

02:15:04.000 --> 02:15:07.000
 I can't um I you know again fully

02:15:07.840 --> 02:15:09.575
support this and I think that this

02:15:09.599 --> 02:15:11.336
aligns with so many of the things we're

02:15:11.360 --> 02:15:14.055
doing whether it's community cohesion,

02:15:14.079 --> 02:15:16.615
sports and recreation and just community

02:15:16.639 --> 02:15:18.376
connection especially for young people

02:15:18.400 --> 02:15:20.215
and old people in this area and

02:15:20.239 --> 02:15:21.736
supporting people who don't have access

02:15:21.760 --> 02:15:24.456
to traditional gyms. Um so I fully

02:15:24.480 --> 02:15:26.376
support this and  hope my fellow

02:15:26.400 --> 02:15:29.016
counselors will support this this week

02:15:29.040 --> 02:15:32.040
and in two weeks as well.

02:15:32.560 --> 02:15:35.560
Further speakers to the motion.

02:15:35.840 --> 02:15:38.840
Councelor Jay.

02:15:40.000 --> 02:15:43.000
Um, PCYC's been part of the DNA of this

02:15:43.199 --> 02:15:45.736
community for almost 80 years and there

02:15:45.760 --> 02:15:47.655
is no doubt that it has been an

02:15:47.679 --> 02:15:50.456
important part of this community in that

02:15:50.480 --> 02:15:52.615
wellness, mental health and social

02:15:52.639 --> 02:15:55.639
cohesion place. Um this council spent

02:15:55.760 --> 02:15:58.135
many hours discussing um with the

02:15:58.159 --> 02:16:00.536
previous board their situation last year

02:16:00.560 --> 02:16:03.560
and we had massive concerns about um

02:16:04.239 --> 02:16:07.239
their future.  it does

02:16:07.840 --> 02:16:09.816
it's it's a little bit catch 22. I

02:16:09.840 --> 02:16:12.840
absolutely support this amendment um 

02:16:13.679 --> 02:16:16.679
in the extra investigation and the

02:16:16.880 --> 02:16:19.880
research on how we can help PCYC not

02:16:20.400 --> 02:16:22.695
only remain part of our community but be

02:16:22.719 --> 02:16:25.719
sustainable for the long term.  a lot

02:16:25.840 --> 02:16:27.816
of this also depends on the new board.

02:16:27.840 --> 02:16:29.575
No pressure for those still listening,

02:16:29.599 --> 02:16:32.295
but it really does depend on the plan

02:16:32.319 --> 02:16:34.136
that they have for this community. But

02:16:34.160 --> 02:16:37.160
this council has always supported PCYC

02:16:37.200 --> 02:16:39.096
and we look forward to seeing or I look

02:16:39.120 --> 02:16:41.736
forward to seeing what the future holds

02:16:41.760 --> 02:16:44.535
and how we can make it a cornerstone of

02:16:44.559 --> 02:16:47.016
our community for another 80 years and

02:16:47.040 --> 02:16:49.976
not just till next March which is my

02:16:50.000 --> 02:16:51.816
concern. So my fingers and toes are

02:16:51.840 --> 02:16:54.840
crossed. Thank you for working um Libby

02:16:55.439 --> 02:16:57.096
with councelor Crawford. Thank you for

02:16:57.120 --> 02:16:59.096
bringing this and then working with 

02:16:59.120 --> 02:17:02.120
the greater um councelor group in order

02:17:02.240 --> 02:17:04.455
to make this happen in a streamlined

02:17:04.479 --> 02:17:07.479
manner. So I do commend you for that.

02:17:11.840 --> 02:17:14.840
Any further speakers?

02:17:16.639 --> 02:17:19.176
Councelor Timman.

02:17:19.200 --> 02:17:22.200
 I'll support this and obviously we 

02:17:23.120 --> 02:17:26.120
we  you know obviously PCYC has been

02:17:26.559 --> 02:17:29.559
around for a while and I certainly want

02:17:30.000 --> 02:17:31.655
to do everything we can to support them

02:17:31.679 --> 02:17:34.679
and we wish the new board um the best of

02:17:36.559 --> 02:17:38.056
luck. I think they need quite a bit of

02:17:38.080 --> 02:17:41.080
luck.  but by the sound of it they are

02:17:41.200 --> 02:17:42.776
all you know just the way they came

02:17:42.800 --> 02:17:45.800
tonight. they're capable and and um have

02:17:47.280 --> 02:17:50.280
enthusiasm to and and have got obviously

02:17:50.960 --> 02:17:53.960
the right u interest at heart. So um I'm

02:17:57.120 --> 02:17:58.936
looking forward to the briefing  next

02:17:58.960 --> 02:18:01.960
week.  and  and then  once we know

02:18:03.679 --> 02:18:05.335
exactly

02:18:05.359 --> 02:18:07.736
um how we can help them, we will help

02:18:07.760 --> 02:18:10.056
them. So

02:18:10.080 --> 02:18:11.896
happy to support it.

02:18:11.920 --> 02:18:14.216
Thank you, councelor Timman. Any further

02:18:14.240 --> 02:18:17.240
speakers? Deputy Mayors. I just briefly

02:18:18.240 --> 02:18:21.240
um I'll support this  amendment and u

02:18:22.639 --> 02:18:25.335
commend councelor Buckingham especially

02:18:25.359 --> 02:18:27.896
for her passion and concern for this

02:18:27.920 --> 02:18:30.920
group. Um

02:18:31.120 --> 02:18:33.976
it's been a torturous  episode to get

02:18:34.000 --> 02:18:35.896
to this point. There is a little bit

02:18:35.920 --> 02:18:37.736
more work to be done and I understand

02:18:37.760 --> 02:18:40.760
that um we can't be that patient. We

02:18:40.960 --> 02:18:43.960
need to get on with this. Um, we are

02:18:45.359 --> 02:18:48.359
custodians. I suppose we are have the

02:18:49.120 --> 02:18:52.120
responsibility of rateayers funds and I

02:18:53.200 --> 02:18:55.096
think the process that we will adopt

02:18:55.120 --> 02:18:58.120
here will be the most effective and

02:18:58.719 --> 02:19:01.335
correct way for us to get to a point.

02:19:01.359 --> 02:19:03.816
Um, that can be debated, but for tonight

02:19:03.840 --> 02:19:06.840
I'll um I'll support this. Thank you.

02:19:07.359 --> 02:19:09.256
Any

02:19:09.280 --> 02:19:12.280
further speakers?

02:19:16.559 --> 02:19:19.096
Any further speakers? In which case, I

02:19:19.120 --> 02:19:21.575
will add to the debate. Do want to

02:19:21.599 --> 02:19:23.016
commend councelor Buckingham for your

02:19:23.040 --> 02:19:25.976
work with PCYC. I know  you've met

02:19:26.000 --> 02:19:28.535
with them on several occasions and to

02:19:28.559 --> 02:19:31.016
get them to a point where they can now

02:19:31.040 --> 02:19:34.040
brief counselors on the path forward and

02:19:35.359 --> 02:19:38.216
the immediate needs to help reactivate

02:19:38.240 --> 02:19:39.976
particularly at social enterprise and

02:19:40.000 --> 02:19:42.695
that reinvestment in their services. So

02:19:42.719 --> 02:19:45.096
this is really the combination of good

02:19:45.120 --> 02:19:46.776
governance

02:19:46.800 --> 02:19:49.496
due diligence from the council and also

02:19:49.520 --> 02:19:52.520
the passion of the board counselor. So

02:19:52.640 --> 02:19:54.776
when they come back and fully brief us

02:19:54.800 --> 02:19:57.576
on their current context, what they need

02:19:57.600 --> 02:20:00.600
immediately and how we can assist that

02:20:00.640 --> 02:20:03.096
then provides that

02:20:03.120 --> 02:20:05.576
oversight, due diligence and good

02:20:05.600 --> 02:20:07.096
governance to enable us to make an

02:20:07.120 --> 02:20:08.616
informed decision. So I do thank you

02:20:08.640 --> 02:20:10.536
councelor Buckingham for the work you

02:20:10.560 --> 02:20:12.696
have undertaken in that journey ahead 

02:20:12.720 --> 02:20:14.696
or that journey so far and what will be

02:20:14.720 --> 02:20:17.096
the journey ahead as well. And thank you

02:20:17.120 --> 02:20:18.455
also for the invitation that you

02:20:18.479 --> 02:20:20.375
extended to me back last year when we

02:20:20.399 --> 02:20:23.399
met with PCYC as well. I commend this

02:20:23.840 --> 02:20:25.335
motion. I commend the work that has

02:20:25.359 --> 02:20:28.359
taken place thus far and look forward to

02:20:28.800 --> 02:20:30.616
the discussions next week and it coming

02:20:30.640 --> 02:20:32.936
back to council for consideration. Thank

02:20:32.960 --> 02:20:35.960
you. Does a mover wish to close?

02:20:40.479 --> 02:20:43.016
There are times when council needs to

02:20:43.040 --> 02:20:44.696
lead.

02:20:44.720 --> 02:20:46.776
And a lot of people might say, "Oh, no.

02:20:46.800 --> 02:20:48.696
It's another state government. It's

02:20:48.720 --> 02:20:50.696
federal government. It's philanthropy.

02:20:50.720 --> 02:20:53.720
It's" But there are times when council

02:20:54.000 --> 02:20:57.000
needs to actually look at what we've got

02:20:57.920 --> 02:21:00.920
and needs to be the first mover. And I

02:21:01.120 --> 02:21:04.120
think with PCYC,

02:21:04.479 --> 02:21:07.479
if we're not going to get in behind them

02:21:08.479 --> 02:21:11.415
and support them,

02:21:11.439 --> 02:21:13.816
then

02:21:13.840 --> 02:21:15.896
we are adding to the barriers that

02:21:15.920 --> 02:21:17.736
they've experienced.

02:21:17.760 --> 02:21:20.760
And the community has done an amazing

02:21:21.200 --> 02:21:24.200
job at re um organizing and building a

02:21:25.280 --> 02:21:28.280
new operating model. And this is one of

02:21:28.399 --> 02:21:30.375
those times where council needs to say

02:21:30.399 --> 02:21:32.455
we actually we we recognize the work

02:21:32.479 --> 02:21:35.415
you've done and we have we value it and

02:21:35.439 --> 02:21:38.216
we're going to walk with you on a

02:21:38.240 --> 02:21:39.816
journey that has been really difficult

02:21:39.840 --> 02:21:41.896
for the community and I think this is

02:21:41.920 --> 02:21:44.920
one of the times we need to lead. So

02:21:45.359 --> 02:21:47.736
I'm very much looking forward to the 3rd

02:21:47.760 --> 02:21:50.616
of June when we can actually um take

02:21:50.640 --> 02:21:53.016
that step and support the PCYC for

02:21:53.040 --> 02:21:56.040
another 70 plus years.

02:21:56.240 --> 02:21:57.896
Thank you.  the mover is close to

02:21:57.920 --> 02:21:59.816
debate and the motion is being put. All

02:21:59.840 --> 02:22:02.840
those in favor that is carried

02:22:02.880 --> 02:22:05.880
unanimously.

02:22:07.520 --> 02:22:10.520
Takes us now to item 13.3 that is

02:22:10.640 --> 02:22:13.576
contract aboard RFT0390

02:22:13.600 --> 02:22:15.496
child care center outdoor spaces

02:22:15.520 --> 02:22:18.375
maintenance and audits. Any questions

02:22:18.399 --> 02:22:21.399
for officers

02:22:21.920 --> 02:22:24.920
on item 13.3?

02:22:26.240 --> 02:22:29.240
questions. Going once, going twice.

02:22:30.880 --> 02:22:33.576
Yes, councelor Thomann.

02:22:33.600 --> 02:22:36.600
I've got a question like I'm just

02:22:37.120 --> 02:22:39.736
obviously there's an amount like in the

02:22:39.760 --> 02:22:42.216
millions there but it's for maintenance

02:22:42.240 --> 02:22:45.240
of  how do we know  you know like

02:22:46.720 --> 02:22:48.295
we've you know I can't remember the

02:22:48.319 --> 02:22:50.455
amount of money that's there but we

02:22:50.479 --> 02:22:52.295
don't know what needs to be maintained

02:22:52.319 --> 02:22:54.136
you know you know how do you actually

02:22:54.160 --> 02:22:55.736
when it comes to a contract like that

02:22:55.760 --> 02:22:57.896
it's not like where you purchase

02:22:57.920 --> 02:23:00.776
something how do we you know evaluate

02:23:00.800 --> 02:23:03.800
the amount Um

02:23:05.359 --> 02:23:06.936
yeah through you Mayor. Thank you for

02:23:06.960 --> 02:23:09.816
the question councelor Tommen. The um

02:23:09.840 --> 02:23:12.840
the way that we do it is that we um

02:23:12.960 --> 02:23:14.536
determine what the level of service

02:23:14.560 --> 02:23:17.560
needed at the center is. So each center

02:23:17.680 --> 02:23:20.680
we work out what um what provisions need

02:23:21.840 --> 02:23:24.776
to be made in terms of maintenance. And

02:23:24.800 --> 02:23:27.016
in the case of these centers it's things

02:23:27.040 --> 02:23:30.040
like looking after the grounds. Um so

02:23:30.160 --> 02:23:33.096
they're doing um tidying up of of garden

02:23:33.120 --> 02:23:36.120
beds um trimming of of bushes and trees,

02:23:36.800 --> 02:23:39.800
weeding um and and all of those are are

02:23:40.399 --> 02:23:43.399
done at an at allowance of time over a

02:23:43.760 --> 02:23:45.496
you know um it might be a couple of

02:23:45.520 --> 02:23:47.896
hours over so many weeks and we we

02:23:47.920 --> 02:23:50.136
extrapolate that at an hourly rate

02:23:50.160 --> 02:23:53.160
across the the term of the contract and

02:23:53.600 --> 02:23:55.976
that gives us the amount. And then we

02:23:56.000 --> 02:23:57.736
have what we call a schedule of rates

02:23:57.760 --> 02:23:59.656
where there are certain tasks that we

02:23:59.680 --> 02:24:02.455
might ask them to do reactively and they

02:24:02.479 --> 02:24:04.295
provide us with a charge and and we

02:24:04.319 --> 02:24:07.319
estimate what that um need would be over

02:24:07.600 --> 02:24:10.216
the time life of the contract. So built

02:24:10.240 --> 02:24:12.936
into the contract is is um an element of

02:24:12.960 --> 02:24:15.960
risk around what that that need for

02:24:16.640 --> 02:24:19.576
maintenance would be. Um but we we

02:24:19.600 --> 02:24:21.976
estimate based on our experience and

02:24:22.000 --> 02:24:25.000
what we know.

02:24:25.280 --> 02:24:27.896
Any further questions? Yes, councelor

02:24:27.920 --> 02:24:29.496
Joy.

02:24:29.520 --> 02:24:31.976
Um is there an audit process on these

02:24:32.000 --> 02:24:35.000
maintenance throughout the contract?

02:24:35.920 --> 02:24:37.496
 through you Mayor. Thank you for the

02:24:37.520 --> 02:24:39.096
council.  thank you for the question

02:24:39.120 --> 02:24:42.120
councelor Jay. Yes, there is. So um City

02:24:42.319 --> 02:24:43.976
of Port Phillip officers will be

02:24:44.000 --> 02:24:47.000
auditing um the works that are done by

02:24:47.359 --> 02:24:50.359
by the teams. Um we'll start by auditing

02:24:51.120 --> 02:24:53.415
 every occurrence in the first

02:24:53.439 --> 02:24:56.056
instance and then we'll go to a a

02:24:56.080 --> 02:24:58.216
randomized inspection and we have

02:24:58.240 --> 02:25:00.216
monthly contract meetings with 

02:25:00.240 --> 02:25:03.176
contractors of this nature. um and

02:25:03.200 --> 02:25:05.415
they'll be um doing inspection

02:25:05.439 --> 02:25:07.335
checklists for us and then we'll be

02:25:07.359 --> 02:25:09.816
auditing those checklists and auditing

02:25:09.840 --> 02:25:12.840
the work that they do on site.

02:25:13.920 --> 02:25:15.976
Councelor Jay, further question.

02:25:16.000 --> 02:25:18.375
 yeah, and this may not be relevant,

02:25:18.399 --> 02:25:20.776
but I have had some residents concerned

02:25:20.800 --> 02:25:23.800
about playgrounds and syringes in sort

02:25:23.920 --> 02:25:26.920
of bark area. Um there has been you know

02:25:27.920 --> 02:25:29.656
some comments about they feel it should

02:25:29.680 --> 02:25:32.056
be rubberized in in our area especially

02:25:32.080 --> 02:25:34.216
in South Melbourne just the nature of

02:25:34.240 --> 02:25:35.415
our residents.

02:25:35.439 --> 02:25:36.616
Has a question.

02:25:36.640 --> 02:25:39.335
Is this something that is built into the

02:25:39.359 --> 02:25:42.359
inspection um by the workers keep an eye

02:25:42.399 --> 02:25:44.936
out on any um dangerous things or

02:25:44.960 --> 02:25:47.335
syringes and is there any movement in

02:25:47.359 --> 02:25:49.256
the contract to change the surface in

02:25:49.280 --> 02:25:50.856
areas that may be deemed a little bit

02:25:50.880 --> 02:25:53.880
more hazardous or high risk?

02:25:54.240 --> 02:25:56.136
 through you may I can answer the

02:25:56.160 --> 02:25:59.096
first part of the question. Um I can

02:25:59.120 --> 02:26:01.656
certainly talk from the council 

02:26:01.680 --> 02:26:04.680
children's services um perspective. 

02:26:05.120 --> 02:26:07.496
the team have a range of procedures

02:26:07.520 --> 02:26:10.520
which include um looking at the site on

02:26:10.800 --> 02:26:13.736
a daily basis. So, council's child care

02:26:13.760 --> 02:26:16.136
um center facilities looking at um that

02:26:16.160 --> 02:26:18.936
and doing inspections on a daily basis

02:26:18.960 --> 02:26:21.960
 for items that  might be in the in

02:26:22.319 --> 02:26:24.295
the vicinity that shouldn't be in the

02:26:24.319 --> 02:26:27.096
vicinity like syringes.  I imagine

02:26:27.120 --> 02:26:29.176
that the community managed centers would

02:26:29.200 --> 02:26:32.200
have similar processes. Um certainly we

02:26:32.640 --> 02:26:35.576
do here at council  in terms of the

02:26:35.600 --> 02:26:38.600
treatment of the play spaces. Um Vicki,

02:26:38.640 --> 02:26:40.295
I don't know if you want to answer that

02:26:40.319 --> 02:26:41.896
question.

02:26:41.920 --> 02:26:44.375
Yes, thank you. Um, further to that, the

02:26:44.399 --> 02:26:46.776
the outdoor play spaces that are outside

02:26:46.800 --> 02:26:49.256
of this service here um are certainly

02:26:49.280 --> 02:26:51.736
looked after by um officers who are part

02:26:51.760 --> 02:26:53.816
of our outdoor maintenance crews and

02:26:53.840 --> 02:26:56.375
they do walk the municipality and do

02:26:56.399 --> 02:26:59.399
inspect sites and respond to to concerns

02:26:59.520 --> 02:27:01.896
about um things like hazards and litter

02:27:01.920 --> 02:27:04.920
like that.

02:27:05.200 --> 02:27:07.176
Councelor Timone.

02:27:07.200 --> 02:27:10.136
Yeah, I just discovered the kindergarten

02:27:10.160 --> 02:27:12.776
the bearing ginang kindergarten in South

02:27:12.800 --> 02:27:14.136
Bank. Is that you know I don't know I

02:27:14.160 --> 02:27:16.696
didn't know we had I just discovered

02:27:16.720 --> 02:27:18.616
that in the thing. So can you tell us

02:27:18.640 --> 02:27:20.616
about this place?

02:27:20.640 --> 02:27:23.640
 through you Mayor  council 

02:27:24.080 --> 02:27:26.455
council has a service that it provides

02:27:26.479 --> 02:27:29.176
 I think it's for 3 to 5year-old 

02:27:29.200 --> 02:27:31.256
children at that service. So that's a

02:27:31.280 --> 02:27:34.280
council run service at that site.

02:27:35.120 --> 02:27:36.936
It's at the South Melbourne Primary

02:27:36.960 --> 02:27:39.960
School.

02:27:40.960 --> 02:27:43.335
Any further questions?

02:27:43.359 --> 02:27:45.656
Councelor J.

02:27:45.680 --> 02:27:48.680
is this contract affected by petrol or

02:27:49.200 --> 02:27:52.200
any of the rates?

02:27:53.040 --> 02:27:54.936
um with with all of our contracts that

02:27:54.960 --> 02:27:57.960
this is a fixed price um service for for

02:27:58.479 --> 02:28:00.856
this contract in that the the contractor

02:28:00.880 --> 02:28:03.096
has provided fixed price and and

02:28:03.120 --> 02:28:05.656
schedule of rates. Um as with any of our

02:28:05.680 --> 02:28:08.680
contracts um we we sign up to to those

02:28:10.080 --> 02:28:13.080
prices um and a contractor could come

02:28:13.120 --> 02:28:15.256
back and and talk about different

02:28:15.280 --> 02:28:18.280
environmental um impacts such as fuel

02:28:18.640 --> 02:28:21.256
prices that are impacting them. Um, but

02:28:21.280 --> 02:28:22.776
there's nothing built into this contract

02:28:22.800 --> 02:28:25.335
for that. No.

02:28:25.359 --> 02:28:28.359
Any further further questions?

02:28:29.920 --> 02:28:32.616
No further questions. In which case, we

02:28:32.640 --> 02:28:34.696
have a recommendation book moved.

02:28:34.720 --> 02:28:37.496
Councelor Timman seconded. Councelor

02:28:37.520 --> 02:28:39.976
Holidayiday. Does a move wish to speak?

02:28:40.000 --> 02:28:42.616
Does a second a wish to speak? It's

02:28:42.640 --> 02:28:44.776
important to keep our  child care

02:28:44.800 --> 02:28:47.656
centers  well maintained and clean.

02:28:47.680 --> 02:28:50.680
So,  let's go. Any

02:28:52.240 --> 02:28:53.976
other counselors wish to speak to the

02:28:54.000 --> 02:28:56.216
motion?

02:28:56.240 --> 02:28:59.016
I will be Does the mover wish to close

02:28:59.040 --> 02:29:00.616
in which case the motion has been put?

02:29:00.640 --> 02:29:03.256
All those in favor? That is carried

02:29:03.280 --> 02:29:05.896
unanimously.

02:29:05.920 --> 02:29:08.920
Takes us now to 13.4. Councelor social

02:29:09.120 --> 02:29:12.120
media policy.

02:29:12.560 --> 02:29:15.096
Any questions for this item? Yes,

02:29:15.120 --> 02:29:16.216
councelor Joe.

02:29:16.240 --> 02:29:18.136
Um, just give me a moment to open my

02:29:18.160 --> 02:29:20.616
email. That's right. Any other

02:29:20.640 --> 02:29:22.776
councilors have questions in relation to

02:29:22.800 --> 02:29:25.800
this agenda item?

02:29:33.520 --> 02:29:35.816
Yes, councelor Tamaran.

02:29:35.840 --> 02:29:38.056
Is that the first time that council has

02:29:38.080 --> 02:29:41.080
got this  social media policy?

02:29:42.880 --> 02:29:45.176
 thank you for the question councelor

02:29:45.200 --> 02:29:46.776
Thomann and through you Mayor. This would

02:29:46.800 --> 02:29:49.176
be the city of Port Phillips first

02:29:49.200 --> 02:29:51.096
consideration of a council social media

02:29:51.120 --> 02:29:54.120
policy.  it is a relatively common

02:29:54.160 --> 02:29:55.896
policy within the local government

02:29:55.920 --> 02:29:57.576
sector. Many other councils including

02:29:57.600 --> 02:29:59.816
our neighboring councils all have an

02:29:59.840 --> 02:30:02.295
equivalent policy. At one point in time,

02:30:02.319 --> 02:30:03.896
state government even considered

02:30:03.920 --> 02:30:06.295
mandating the policy but that was

02:30:06.319 --> 02:30:09.319
decided against.

02:30:09.680 --> 02:30:12.680
 councelor Holidayiday.

02:30:14.720 --> 02:30:16.136
There's a provision in here about

02:30:16.160 --> 02:30:17.976
authorized statements on um electoral

02:30:18.000 --> 02:30:19.976
materials regardless of whether we're in

02:30:20.000 --> 02:30:21.896
an election period or not. What

02:30:21.920 --> 02:30:24.455
constitutes electoral material in that

02:30:24.479 --> 02:30:27.479
circumstance? Is it just endorsing or

02:30:27.760 --> 02:30:30.136
encouraging someone to vote or support a

02:30:30.160 --> 02:30:33.160
particular candidate?  it's a good

02:30:33.520 --> 02:30:34.856
question councelor Holidayiday and

02:30:34.880 --> 02:30:37.880
through you may um in practical terms um

02:30:37.920 --> 02:30:40.536
in terms of electoral comm um materials

02:30:40.560 --> 02:30:42.936
it's really around things like asking

02:30:42.960 --> 02:30:45.896
for support  criticizing other

02:30:45.920 --> 02:30:47.896
candidates promoting a ticket or

02:30:47.920 --> 02:30:50.455
otherwise seeking to influence an an

02:30:50.479 --> 02:30:52.936
election outcome. Now in this case it's

02:30:52.960 --> 02:30:55.816
largely um within the council and um

02:30:55.840 --> 02:30:58.056
local government sector  state and

02:30:58.080 --> 02:30:59.736
federal have their own provisions around

02:30:59.760 --> 02:31:02.760
electioneering.

02:31:02.800 --> 02:31:05.800
Deputy may

02:31:06.319 --> 02:31:09.319
I just wanted to um ask James to

02:31:11.280 --> 02:31:13.656
absolutely emphasize that point he made.

02:31:13.680 --> 02:31:16.680
So it's clear to me in respect of this

02:31:16.960 --> 02:31:19.960
 it it is noted as being a policy

02:31:20.720 --> 02:31:23.720
social media policy. This is a me not a

02:31:24.080 --> 02:31:27.080
mandated course of action or rules for

02:31:27.760 --> 02:31:30.760
counselors but it is recommended and

02:31:31.120 --> 02:31:33.335
while it's not enforcable

02:31:33.359 --> 02:31:35.496
it would be dangerous for a counselor to

02:31:35.520 --> 02:31:38.520
veer off this narrow path

02:31:38.960 --> 02:31:40.856
 through you may and thank you for the

02:31:40.880 --> 02:31:43.736
question councelor Miz that's correct so

02:31:43.760 --> 02:31:46.216
 obviously council's council's conduct

02:31:46.240 --> 02:31:49.016
is guided by the model code of conduct

02:31:49.040 --> 02:31:50.936
 it's often in many cases a

02:31:50.960 --> 02:31:53.576
principlesbased um document. So really

02:31:53.600 --> 02:31:55.976
what this policy does is provide

02:31:56.000 --> 02:31:58.455
prescriptive advice on how to navigate

02:31:58.479 --> 02:32:00.455
the nuances of the code of conduct in

02:32:00.479 --> 02:32:02.056
the social media environment which we

02:32:02.080 --> 02:32:03.736
know for counselors can be fraught with

02:32:03.760 --> 02:32:06.760
some risk and challenges.

02:32:07.600 --> 02:32:09.176
Councelor Consol,

02:32:09.200 --> 02:32:11.016
given that why is it a policy not a

02:32:11.040 --> 02:32:12.616
guideline?

02:32:12.640 --> 02:32:15.016
Very good question.

02:32:15.040 --> 02:32:18.040
 through you um Mayor um a policy

02:32:19.920 --> 02:32:22.056
largely would come to council for

02:32:22.080 --> 02:32:23.976
endorsement through collective counselor

02:32:24.000 --> 02:32:26.295
endorsement  whereas the guidelines

02:32:26.319 --> 02:32:28.696
aren't required to come through council

02:32:28.720 --> 02:32:31.096
um the reality is also under the model

02:32:31.120 --> 02:32:34.120
code of conduct um  policies are more

02:32:34.240 --> 02:32:35.896
enforceable in terms of the breach of

02:32:35.920 --> 02:32:38.920
that policy

02:32:39.359 --> 02:32:41.736
councelor Timman

02:32:41.760 --> 02:32:44.760
so in so we talk about, you know, in

02:32:45.920 --> 02:32:48.920
elections. So, is that does that cover

02:32:49.359 --> 02:32:52.359
if I want to  support Peter Peter and

02:32:54.080 --> 02:32:57.080
Paul Smith's running for state  in the

02:32:57.359 --> 02:32:59.896
city of Albert Park in OC October,

02:32:59.920 --> 02:33:02.920
November? 

02:33:03.680 --> 02:33:06.136
what does this guidelines what what does

02:33:06.160 --> 02:33:08.696
it allow? What doesn't allow who doesn't

02:33:08.720 --> 02:33:11.720
allow it? Um so through you Mayor and

02:33:11.840 --> 02:33:13.496
thank you for the question councelor Tom

02:33:13.520 --> 02:33:15.496
in in this case it's not suggesting that

02:33:15.520 --> 02:33:17.896
you can't um express a view around a

02:33:17.920 --> 02:33:20.216
preferred political party what it's

02:33:20.240 --> 02:33:22.536
suggesting is that you would have um an

02:33:22.560 --> 02:33:25.560
authorization that it is your expressed

02:33:25.840 --> 02:33:28.696
um position  through your authorized

02:33:28.720 --> 02:33:30.856
position as opposed to a council

02:33:30.880 --> 02:33:33.415
endorsed position. So it doesn't limit

02:33:33.439 --> 02:33:35.816
your ability to endorse or support

02:33:35.840 --> 02:33:37.415
candidates. What it does is

02:33:37.439 --> 02:33:40.439
differentiate your role as a individual

02:33:40.640 --> 02:33:42.776
counselor as opposed to a council

02:33:42.800 --> 02:33:44.856
position.

02:33:44.880 --> 02:33:46.136
Yes, councelor Timar.

02:33:46.160 --> 02:33:49.160
So, I've got another question. ,

02:33:49.280 --> 02:33:51.896
do council officers read all our posts

02:33:51.920 --> 02:33:54.920
on Facebook, Instagram, and elsewhere?

02:33:55.040 --> 02:33:56.776
Because, you know, obviously, you know,

02:33:56.800 --> 02:33:59.176
if if we do the wrong thing, someone has

02:33:59.200 --> 02:34:02.200
to tell us. So, , so is that your job?

02:34:02.479 --> 02:34:05.479
whose job is it to check all

02:34:06.080 --> 02:34:08.295
 three you may and thank you for the

02:34:08.319 --> 02:34:10.056
question councelor Taman we don't 

02:34:10.080 --> 02:34:11.896
read line by line every one of your

02:34:11.920 --> 02:34:14.920
posts we do um keep an eye  on um our

02:34:17.200 --> 02:34:18.856
online social media activity

02:34:18.880 --> 02:34:20.216
particularly through our own corporate

02:34:20.240 --> 02:34:21.976
channels but also through our council

02:34:22.000 --> 02:34:24.776
corporate channels um but it isn't

02:34:24.800 --> 02:34:27.800
something that we overly audit

02:34:28.000 --> 02:34:29.976
 hence why this policy we thought

02:34:30.000 --> 02:34:31.496
might be helpful for counselors to

02:34:31.520 --> 02:34:34.520
self-manage Any

02:34:35.280 --> 02:34:37.256
other councelor Joe?

02:34:37.280 --> 02:34:39.256
Um look James, thank you for your time

02:34:39.280 --> 02:34:41.656
on this today. I think um you and I have

02:34:41.680 --> 02:34:43.896
had lots of

02:34:43.920 --> 02:34:45.656
details about this. I have two

02:34:45.680 --> 02:34:47.816
questions. The first one is do we have a

02:34:47.840 --> 02:34:50.840
media policy

02:34:51.200 --> 02:34:52.696
 through you Mayor and thank you for

02:34:52.720 --> 02:34:55.016
the question councelor Jay. We don't 

02:34:55.040 --> 02:34:56.856
at this point in time we've got media

02:34:56.880 --> 02:34:59.256
guidelines

02:34:59.280 --> 02:35:02.280
 which  as as to the question of um

02:35:02.800 --> 02:35:05.496
councelor consol they don't have the

02:35:05.520 --> 02:35:08.520
rigidity around enforcability

02:35:09.600 --> 02:35:12.600
um and do we need to put essentially 

02:35:14.319 --> 02:35:16.375
the authorization on every comment that

02:35:16.399 --> 02:35:19.399
we make or can we pin that to the bio or

02:35:20.560 --> 02:35:22.536
um you know pin that higher up in the

02:35:22.560 --> 02:35:24.295
post to make it clear that these are

02:35:24.319 --> 02:35:26.216
personal

02:35:26.240 --> 02:35:27.576
views.

02:35:27.600 --> 02:35:30.600
 that's a good question. So um if I

02:35:31.920 --> 02:35:34.920
bring up the the policy for 4.9 for the

02:35:35.359 --> 02:35:37.816
clarification statements,  my view

02:35:37.840 --> 02:35:40.840
would be for things like um um stating

02:35:41.439 --> 02:35:43.496
that  the opinions expressed within

02:35:43.520 --> 02:35:45.176
this page or in your capacity as an

02:35:45.200 --> 02:35:47.256
individual counselor, you would post as

02:35:47.280 --> 02:35:50.280
a pinned post or as part of your bio. 

02:35:50.800 --> 02:35:53.800
where that would deviate is around um

02:35:54.240 --> 02:35:56.295
the electoral material being published.

02:35:56.319 --> 02:35:58.375
So if you had an individual post that

02:35:58.399 --> 02:36:01.399
was endorsing a candidate or seeking to

02:36:01.520 --> 02:36:03.256
influence voting, that's where you would

02:36:03.280 --> 02:36:06.280
put the caveat around  your your own

02:36:06.720 --> 02:36:09.720
endorsement.

02:36:11.520 --> 02:36:14.136
Council

02:36:14.160 --> 02:36:17.160
councelor,

02:36:17.600 --> 02:36:18.936
I'm just wanting a practical

02:36:18.960 --> 02:36:20.856
understanding. So, let's say I don't

02:36:20.880 --> 02:36:22.136
want to start rumors, but let's say

02:36:22.160 --> 02:36:24.295
Frank's going to run for state in in in

02:36:24.319 --> 02:36:27.319
in October, November.

02:36:28.240 --> 02:36:29.096
The which one?

02:36:29.120 --> 02:36:31.176
Mongle.

02:36:31.200 --> 02:36:33.816
Um, and let's say

02:36:33.840 --> 02:36:35.736
I mean, let's say I want to write a post

02:36:35.760 --> 02:36:38.056
about Frank's um commitment to the

02:36:38.080 --> 02:36:40.136
community and and the quality of his,

02:36:40.160 --> 02:36:42.056
you know, questions and the depth of his

02:36:42.080 --> 02:36:45.016
mind. Um, would I have to put an

02:36:45.040 --> 02:36:47.096
authorization on that?

02:36:47.120 --> 02:36:50.120
, through your M. Correct. But um that

02:36:50.479 --> 02:36:53.335
is also covered in our um in the local

02:36:53.359 --> 02:36:55.016
government act that states that any

02:36:55.040 --> 02:36:57.016
electoral material must be authorized.

02:36:57.040 --> 02:36:59.496
So you would need to put that

02:36:59.520 --> 02:37:01.896
irrespective of whether you have this

02:37:01.920 --> 02:37:03.896
endorse this policy or not. The the

02:37:03.920 --> 02:37:05.896
legislative obligation is to do so.

02:37:05.920 --> 02:37:07.496
So what if he's already author

02:37:07.520 --> 02:37:09.896
authorized like a slide and then I'm

02:37:09.920 --> 02:37:11.256
sharing it with some personal

02:37:11.280 --> 02:37:12.936
commentary.

02:37:12.960 --> 02:37:15.816
 it's a good question um councelor Jay

02:37:15.840 --> 02:37:17.576
and through you may I think there'd be a

02:37:17.600 --> 02:37:20.136
nuance here. So my general view is would

02:37:20.160 --> 02:37:22.936
try and exercise common sense around

02:37:22.960 --> 02:37:24.776
around that type of application. If

02:37:24.800 --> 02:37:27.800
you're resharing a story of um you know

02:37:28.000 --> 02:37:30.375
the the Frank Artuso party, it might be

02:37:30.399 --> 02:37:32.776
different to putting up a a stagnant

02:37:32.800 --> 02:37:35.800
post that that sits on your platform. In

02:37:36.080 --> 02:37:38.056
the stagnant post case, which sits on

02:37:38.080 --> 02:37:39.976
your timeline, we would be looking for

02:37:40.000 --> 02:37:42.295
that authorization. If you were to

02:37:42.319 --> 02:37:45.319
reshare a story um we might apply um a

02:37:47.359 --> 02:37:49.896
somewhat more more flexible criteria.

02:37:49.920 --> 02:37:51.896
All right. Um now one more question. I

02:37:51.920 --> 02:37:53.736
know there's more questions. How does

02:37:53.760 --> 02:37:56.760
this differ from  already our code of

02:37:57.040 --> 02:37:58.936
conduct and our local government act and

02:37:58.960 --> 02:38:01.960
also  legal laws around doxing and

02:38:02.000 --> 02:38:04.375
things like that? Obviously there's um

02:38:04.399 --> 02:38:07.176
there's laws and legislation  around

02:38:07.200 --> 02:38:09.415
some of these things. So, so why is this

02:38:09.439 --> 02:38:11.976
policy necessary and how does it differ?

02:38:12.000 --> 02:38:14.056
And it's another good question councelor

02:38:14.080 --> 02:38:16.616
Jay and through you may um really you've

02:38:16.640 --> 02:38:18.216
what you have is the legislation the

02:38:18.240 --> 02:38:20.536
model code of conduct and and relative

02:38:20.560 --> 02:38:22.216
obligations that councilors must follow

02:38:22.240 --> 02:38:23.976
under things like the privacy act that

02:38:24.000 --> 02:38:26.216
are all in discip places. What this

02:38:26.240 --> 02:38:27.896
policy does is bring all those

02:38:27.920 --> 02:38:30.056
obligations together into one structured

02:38:30.080 --> 02:38:32.056
policy that's specific to the social

02:38:32.080 --> 02:38:34.536
media environment to essentially provide

02:38:34.560 --> 02:38:36.616
a one-stop shop for counselors around

02:38:36.640 --> 02:38:39.016
navigating the social media environment.

02:38:39.040 --> 02:38:40.696
Um, it can be quite challenging for

02:38:40.720 --> 02:38:42.216
counselors to understand all their

02:38:42.240 --> 02:38:44.455
obligations if having to look for all

02:38:44.479 --> 02:38:46.616
the different parts of information. So

02:38:46.640 --> 02:38:48.536
really what this policy does is bring

02:38:48.560 --> 02:38:51.335
together all those obligations into a um

02:38:51.359 --> 02:38:53.816
easily used document for counselors

02:38:53.840 --> 02:38:55.976
which is akin to setting up kind of

02:38:56.000 --> 02:38:58.776
life-saving swim flags and  navigating

02:38:58.800 --> 02:39:01.800
where you can and can't swim.

02:39:02.720 --> 02:39:05.176
Yeah, councelor Consol.

02:39:05.200 --> 02:39:06.776
Thank you. So in the clarification

02:39:06.800 --> 02:39:08.375
statements I'm seeing that maybe we

02:39:08.399 --> 02:39:10.776
should suggest putting in the bio. But

02:39:10.800 --> 02:39:13.096
here I'm looking at my bio and I say,

02:39:13.120 --> 02:39:15.335
"All right, I'm going to edit and it

02:39:15.359 --> 02:39:17.816
says I have 101 characters that I can

02:39:17.840 --> 02:39:20.840
utilize." So, how am I supposed to put

02:39:20.960 --> 02:39:23.960
in all these recommendations and do 101?

02:39:28.880 --> 02:39:31.096
, I I'm not sure tech supports in the

02:39:31.120 --> 02:39:34.120
scope of this convers

02:39:35.600 --> 02:39:37.335
and and I can come back to you with with

02:39:37.359 --> 02:39:39.496
some more advice in that space. I I

02:39:39.520 --> 02:39:41.415
think the answer to that question makes

02:39:41.439 --> 02:39:44.439
this not I don't have the information to

02:39:44.720 --> 02:39:47.720
vote on this like I don't um if I can't

02:39:48.479 --> 02:39:50.776
implement it I can't say yes to it. So I

02:39:50.800 --> 02:39:52.216
just I don't know when I get the answer

02:39:52.240 --> 02:39:55.240
to that question to make this

02:39:56.800 --> 02:39:59.496
 so it's a good question and I can

02:39:59.520 --> 02:40:02.136
give you an answer. So there is in

02:40:02.160 --> 02:40:04.856
certain platforms a larger character

02:40:04.880 --> 02:40:06.536
limit. So it depends on the platform

02:40:06.560 --> 02:40:08.776
that you're using. In this case, what

02:40:08.800 --> 02:40:11.096
you might do is selectively use the ones

02:40:11.120 --> 02:40:12.455
that you think would be most pertinent

02:40:12.479 --> 02:40:14.216
to you and the content that you might be

02:40:14.240 --> 02:40:17.240
posting. Um, in this case, it is a um a

02:40:18.479 --> 02:40:20.616
cover for counselors in terms of the the

02:40:20.640 --> 02:40:22.936
management of their content. Without it,

02:40:22.960 --> 02:40:25.960
um, counselors are at at a level of risk

02:40:26.000 --> 02:40:28.216
um without a level of statement that

02:40:28.240 --> 02:40:31.240
supports their content. But um what I

02:40:31.359 --> 02:40:32.856
will say is we're happy to have a look

02:40:32.880 --> 02:40:34.616
at some of the rewarding of that to

02:40:34.640 --> 02:40:36.696
ensure it aligns with our with the

02:40:36.720 --> 02:40:39.720
character limitations.

02:40:42.640 --> 02:40:45.096
Fit it in.

02:40:45.120 --> 02:40:48.120
I've tried it.

02:40:48.560 --> 02:40:51.415
Cat holiday.

02:40:51.439 --> 02:40:53.415
And sorry to be a I'm going to be a real

02:40:53.439 --> 02:40:56.439
pain about this. Um the local government

02:40:57.760 --> 02:41:00.760
government inspectorates guidance about

02:41:01.200 --> 02:41:02.776
authorization

02:41:02.800 --> 02:41:05.335
means that you have to authorize every

02:41:05.359 --> 02:41:07.176
post

02:41:07.200 --> 02:41:10.056
um not just in the bio and this came up

02:41:10.080 --> 02:41:11.816
during the election campaign and I'm

02:41:11.840 --> 02:41:13.816
sure many of us would have familiarized

02:41:13.840 --> 02:41:15.816
ourselves with this during the election

02:41:15.840 --> 02:41:18.840
campaign. Um, so I'm wondering how this,

02:41:19.600 --> 02:41:22.375
you know, if our guidance here says put

02:41:22.399 --> 02:41:25.399
it in your bio, but it also says align

02:41:26.560 --> 02:41:29.560
with the L local government act. You

02:41:30.720 --> 02:41:32.616
know, we these seem to be contradictory.

02:41:32.640 --> 02:41:35.576
Sorry. , so um, and it's a good good

02:41:35.600 --> 02:41:37.016
point of clarification, councelor

02:41:37.040 --> 02:41:39.256
Holiday through. So in terms of the

02:41:39.280 --> 02:41:41.335
authorization around electoral material,

02:41:41.359 --> 02:41:43.016
you wouldn't put that in your bio. You

02:41:43.040 --> 02:41:45.415
would put that on individual posts. in

02:41:45.439 --> 02:41:47.736
terms of um the motherhood statement

02:41:47.760 --> 02:41:49.576
around that the views expressed within

02:41:49.600 --> 02:41:51.496
this page are yours as an individual

02:41:51.520 --> 02:41:52.856
counselor. They're the ones that you

02:41:52.880 --> 02:41:55.880
would pin.

02:41:58.399 --> 02:42:00.936
Is is not every post we make trying to

02:42:00.960 --> 02:42:03.496
influence people?

02:42:03.520 --> 02:42:05.816


02:42:05.840 --> 02:42:08.216
not not really. My my sense and my

02:42:08.240 --> 02:42:10.936
observation for counselors um social

02:42:10.960 --> 02:42:13.176
media pages is often the sharing of

02:42:13.200 --> 02:42:14.776
information, sharing of good news

02:42:14.800 --> 02:42:17.256
stories.  what we're looking at here

02:42:17.280 --> 02:42:19.816
is specific electioneering. So seeking

02:42:19.840 --> 02:42:22.455
to outcome the influence of a vote. So

02:42:22.479 --> 02:42:24.696
things like reelect me at the next

02:42:24.720 --> 02:42:27.720
election, don't vote for councelor X. 

02:42:28.080 --> 02:42:31.080
it's time for  different leadership 

02:42:32.080 --> 02:42:34.136
in a different organization. They're the

02:42:34.160 --> 02:42:35.656
type of statements that we're we're

02:42:35.680 --> 02:42:38.375
looking at targeting around um when

02:42:38.399 --> 02:42:39.736
we're looking at campaign style

02:42:39.760 --> 02:42:41.335
postings. So things where you're sharing

02:42:41.359 --> 02:42:42.776
information, you're sharing your own

02:42:42.800 --> 02:42:44.696
individual view on the outcome of a

02:42:44.720 --> 02:42:46.616
council decision, they are not

02:42:46.640 --> 02:42:49.640
considered to be  in scope for those

02:42:50.000 --> 02:42:53.000
um  for those individual posts.

02:42:54.960 --> 02:42:57.960
Councelor J. Um are state and federal

02:42:58.800 --> 02:43:01.800
politicians held to this level of um

02:43:03.359 --> 02:43:05.016
prescriptive

02:43:05.040 --> 02:43:08.040
social media policy?

02:43:09.040 --> 02:43:12.040
Um so state and federal  um have their

02:43:12.560 --> 02:43:15.176
own laws that apply to their elections.

02:43:15.200 --> 02:43:17.335
So there are similar laws, but in terms

02:43:17.359 --> 02:43:19.896
of um how prescriptive they are, I'd

02:43:19.920 --> 02:43:21.335
need to come back to you. I'd have to

02:43:21.359 --> 02:43:24.359
take that question on notice.

02:43:25.200 --> 02:43:26.856
Councelor Tamar,

02:43:26.880 --> 02:43:28.455
due to the fact that we've only got that

02:43:28.479 --> 02:43:31.479
many letters,  if I put  T A M O V

02:43:33.920 --> 02:43:36.920
Dama on views, will that u will that

02:43:38.640 --> 02:43:40.696
work?

02:43:40.720 --> 02:43:43.016
So, I'll just confirm Facebook has up to

02:43:43.040 --> 02:43:46.040
255 letters. So, that's um the

02:43:46.640 --> 02:43:48.136
Just to clarify, there's a difference

02:43:48.160 --> 02:43:49.896
between the number of characters you are

02:43:49.920 --> 02:43:51.896
allowed in a personal profile versus a

02:43:51.920 --> 02:43:53.816
Facebook page. So the Facebook page

02:43:53.840 --> 02:43:55.736
gives you more characters than your

02:43:55.760 --> 02:43:58.056
personal profile. I can once again vouch

02:43:58.080 --> 02:44:00.856
for that.

02:44:00.880 --> 02:44:03.736
Um counselors and we'd be I'd happily

02:44:03.760 --> 02:44:06.375
work through um individual on a case by

02:44:06.399 --> 02:44:08.616
case basis if you all have um wording

02:44:08.640 --> 02:44:11.176
that you'd prefer or um different ways

02:44:11.200 --> 02:44:13.576
forward that you'd prefer. At the moment

02:44:13.600 --> 02:44:15.896
um the language within the policies um

02:44:15.920 --> 02:44:18.375
indicative clarif um clarification

02:44:18.399 --> 02:44:20.776
statements um that says you should. it

02:44:20.800 --> 02:44:23.800
doesn't compel you to um actually um

02:44:25.279 --> 02:44:28.279
word for word use those statements.

02:44:28.560 --> 02:44:30.455
Just as a point of clarification, Josh

02:44:30.479 --> 02:44:32.696
Burns says authorized J Burns ALP

02:44:32.720 --> 02:44:35.720
Senular.

02:44:37.920 --> 02:44:40.455
All right.  councelor Buckingham

02:44:40.479 --> 02:44:41.576
put the motion.

02:44:41.600 --> 02:44:44.455
Can I just note that 3.3 authorizes the

02:44:44.479 --> 02:44:46.455
chief executive officer or delegate to

02:44:46.479 --> 02:44:48.455
make minor changes to the policy that do

02:44:48.479 --> 02:44:51.479
not materially alter its intent. So I I

02:44:51.760 --> 02:44:53.415
understand is am I right in

02:44:53.439 --> 02:44:56.439
understanding that if there are  minor

02:44:57.760 --> 02:45:00.375
alterations to make it workable that's

02:45:00.399 --> 02:45:03.399
within the chief executives's delegation

02:45:03.520 --> 02:45:05.096
and we can actually work out some of

02:45:05.120 --> 02:45:08.056
these um technical issues through that

02:45:08.080 --> 02:45:08.616
process

02:45:08.640 --> 02:45:11.335
through you may um that is correct and I

02:45:11.359 --> 02:45:13.896
will note that these um these

02:45:13.920 --> 02:45:15.656
clarification statements were provided

02:45:15.680 --> 02:45:18.680
as part of the VGA model um model

02:45:18.800 --> 02:45:20.696
policies so they are those that are

02:45:20.720 --> 02:45:23.720
replicated across the sector.

02:45:24.240 --> 02:45:25.736
We can't put a motion until there's a

02:45:25.760 --> 02:45:27.656
mover. Councelor Crawford. So, you're

02:45:27.680 --> 02:45:29.176
happy to move.

02:45:29.200 --> 02:45:31.096
We've got a seconder. Seconded.

02:45:31.120 --> 02:45:33.255
Councelor Holidayiday. Does the mover

02:45:33.279 --> 02:45:34.056
wish to speak?

02:45:34.080 --> 02:45:35.736
I will briefly seeing that we've got 10

02:45:35.760 --> 02:45:37.736
minutes left. Look, I think that any

02:45:37.760 --> 02:45:40.760
social post um media um policy or or

02:45:41.040 --> 02:45:42.536
guidelines will never get everything

02:45:42.560 --> 02:45:44.616
right. It's a common sense guide. Let's

02:45:44.640 --> 02:45:46.856
be decent online and be practical and

02:45:46.880 --> 02:45:48.936
check with people before we put their

02:45:48.960 --> 02:45:50.616
photo. I mean it's not it's not anything

02:45:50.640 --> 02:45:53.176
out of the box and noting how much toxic

02:45:53.200 --> 02:45:54.776
behavior happens on social media. I

02:45:54.800 --> 02:45:56.295
think it's good to have some guidelines

02:45:56.319 --> 02:45:58.056
just to remind us um of our

02:45:58.080 --> 02:46:00.536
responsibility to be reasonable 

02:46:00.560 --> 02:46:03.176
leaders in this space. So let's get on

02:46:03.200 --> 02:46:06.200
with it.

02:46:06.479 --> 02:46:08.936
Does the secondary wish to speak? 

02:46:08.960 --> 02:46:11.255
being reasonable online is sometimes

02:46:11.279 --> 02:46:13.496
more difficult than it than it sounds in

02:46:13.520 --> 02:46:16.375
practice, but I I um I'm happy to work

02:46:16.399 --> 02:46:19.335
with the team here and refine this as we

02:46:19.359 --> 02:46:22.136
go and make  changes that make it um

02:46:22.160 --> 02:46:23.816
practical for us on the social media

02:46:23.840 --> 02:46:25.576
side, but I appreciate, you know, the

02:46:25.600 --> 02:46:27.816
other um the other recommendations, the

02:46:27.840 --> 02:46:30.455
other guidelines here or policies here

02:46:30.479 --> 02:46:33.479
um that  help um

02:46:34.800 --> 02:46:37.800
help us protect ourselves and each other

02:46:38.399 --> 02:46:41.399
um in the in the malu and maelstrom of

02:46:42.479 --> 02:46:44.856
 social media. So happy to support

02:46:44.880 --> 02:46:46.136
this.

02:46:46.160 --> 02:46:48.856
Any other councilors wish to speak?

02:46:48.880 --> 02:46:51.880
Councelor Hardy,

02:46:52.240 --> 02:46:55.096
I can't support this policy. If you have

02:46:55.120 --> 02:46:56.616
to look up a policy in what you are

02:46:56.640 --> 02:46:58.216
planning to post, then you don't post

02:46:58.240 --> 02:47:00.136
it. I don't believe it should be a

02:47:00.160 --> 02:47:02.696
policy, but a guideline as it is a

02:47:02.720 --> 02:47:04.696
freedom to police yourself, not to be

02:47:04.720 --> 02:47:07.720
ruled by policy. Any

02:47:08.160 --> 02:47:10.136
other counselors wish to speak to this

02:47:10.160 --> 02:47:13.096
motion? Councelor Jay.

02:47:13.120 --> 02:47:15.976
Um, I still don't know how I'm going to

02:47:16.000 --> 02:47:18.776
vote. I think there is a lot of sense to

02:47:18.800 --> 02:47:21.800
this. There is um

02:47:22.080 --> 02:47:25.080
um look, I don't like red tape and this

02:47:25.120 --> 02:47:27.096
initially just felt like more red tape

02:47:27.120 --> 02:47:29.096
to be honest. It was more boxes to tick

02:47:29.120 --> 02:47:31.656
and more comments to write and more, you

02:47:31.680 --> 02:47:34.680
know, um things to navigate in in an

02:47:35.200 --> 02:47:38.200
already  very restrictive um

02:47:39.760 --> 02:47:42.760
 role. Um,

02:47:45.200 --> 02:47:47.335
I do sense that some of it feels a bit

02:47:47.359 --> 02:47:49.576
too prescriptive,

02:47:49.600 --> 02:47:51.816
but I also understand that some people

02:47:51.840 --> 02:47:53.816
need a guide and sometimes as a new

02:47:53.840 --> 02:47:55.976
counselor, it is a little bit difficult

02:47:56.000 --> 02:47:58.295
navigating all those multiple policies

02:47:58.319 --> 02:48:00.536
and frameworks at the beginning. So, I

02:48:00.560 --> 02:48:01.976
do understand how something like this,

02:48:02.000 --> 02:48:03.816
James, it does tie it together all very

02:48:03.840 --> 02:48:06.136
nicely and you can see what it's

02:48:06.160 --> 02:48:08.216
covered. I'd feel more comfortable if it

02:48:08.240 --> 02:48:09.736
was just a little bit um less

02:48:09.760 --> 02:48:11.415
prescriptive about where we put things

02:48:11.439 --> 02:48:14.056
and and and where we we do that. It

02:48:14.080 --> 02:48:15.335
almost feels like we need someone

02:48:15.359 --> 02:48:18.359
managing our accounts at that point. So,

02:48:18.479 --> 02:48:20.696
I will listen to what everyone else says

02:48:20.720 --> 02:48:23.720
and then see um

02:48:23.920 --> 02:48:26.920
see how I'm moved because my main aim

02:48:27.680 --> 02:48:29.496
for all of us counselors in our

02:48:29.520 --> 02:48:32.520
communities to ensure that we have the

02:48:32.560 --> 02:48:35.255
right to free speech. we can represent

02:48:35.279 --> 02:48:38.279
our community openly and honestly and

02:48:38.479 --> 02:48:41.479
not feel like that honesty or forgetting

02:48:41.600 --> 02:48:44.216
to put a little, you know, caveat on it

02:48:44.240 --> 02:48:46.776
will get us whatever it's going to get

02:48:46.800 --> 02:48:49.800
us. So, I will look forward to hearing

02:48:50.240 --> 02:48:52.936
everyone else and thank you,

02:48:52.960 --> 02:48:55.176
Deputy Mayers. The floor is yours.

02:48:55.200 --> 02:48:57.176
Thank you.  I wasn't going to speak

02:48:57.200 --> 02:48:59.096
but  I didn't want to prolong the

02:48:59.120 --> 02:49:02.120
agony but um I get I I go back to one of

02:49:04.720 --> 02:49:07.720
the better um  briefings we've had in

02:49:08.960 --> 02:49:10.856
this space and that that of course is

02:49:10.880 --> 02:49:12.536
the one we had before Christmas with

02:49:12.560 --> 02:49:15.560
Maddox. I I would be urging council

02:49:16.160 --> 02:49:18.776
officers James maybe I'm looking at you.

02:49:18.800 --> 02:49:21.800
We we we need to have a refresher. The

02:49:22.000 --> 02:49:25.000
thing about that was it

02:49:27.040 --> 02:49:30.040
illuminated to me the many pitfalls that

02:49:30.080 --> 02:49:32.455
exist and there are some I didn't

02:49:32.479 --> 02:49:35.479
realize or didn't think about and I feel

02:49:37.359 --> 02:49:40.295
this document provides us with a summary

02:49:40.319 --> 02:49:43.255
of many of the areas that we need to be

02:49:43.279 --> 02:49:46.279
careful in. you will make a decision

02:49:46.399 --> 02:49:48.455
with or without this as a policy or a

02:49:48.479 --> 02:49:50.856
guideline and you will want to make sure

02:49:50.880 --> 02:49:53.096
that you make the right decision in that

02:49:53.120 --> 02:49:56.120
social media space. I'd like again as I

02:49:57.279 --> 02:49:59.415
said to have a refresher.  others

02:49:59.439 --> 02:50:02.439
might find it  welcome but this this

02:50:04.800 --> 02:50:07.576
gives you some confidence about where

02:50:07.600 --> 02:50:09.736
you can go and where you shouldn't go

02:50:09.760 --> 02:50:11.896
and if you feel that you you can handle

02:50:11.920 --> 02:50:14.920
it without any help fine go for it but

02:50:15.200 --> 02:50:17.656
we are in a very rapidly changing world

02:50:17.680 --> 02:50:20.056
in social media and I think if you make

02:50:20.080 --> 02:50:22.455
a mistake it could be a very expensive

02:50:22.479 --> 02:50:25.479
one. So thank you Any further speakers?

02:50:27.520 --> 02:50:29.576
I'm going to put the motion. All sorry.

02:50:29.600 --> 02:50:32.600
Does the mover wish to close?

02:50:34.479 --> 02:50:36.295
All right, we're putting the motion. All

02:50:36.319 --> 02:50:39.319
those in favor.

02:50:41.920 --> 02:50:44.856
That is all those against.

02:50:44.880 --> 02:50:47.880
All right, that's carried 81.

02:50:52.319 --> 02:50:55.319
, yep. So that's  for councelor

02:50:55.520 --> 02:50:58.216
Tomman, deputy may councelor Jay, Mayor

02:50:58.240 --> 02:50:59.576
Min, councelor Holidayiday, councelor

02:50:59.600 --> 02:51:01.016
Consello, councelor Groford, councelor

02:51:01.040 --> 02:51:04.040
Buckingham, and against councelor Hardy.

02:51:07.040 --> 02:51:10.040
 we I'm going to call for an extension

02:51:10.479 --> 02:51:12.776
for 30 minutes. I'm going to put  a

02:51:12.800 --> 02:51:15.736
30-minut extension moved. Mayor M

02:51:15.760 --> 02:51:17.656
seconded deputy may it's procedural

02:51:17.680 --> 02:51:20.680
motion. Let's put it to the vote.

02:51:21.279 --> 02:51:23.736
Although that is carried unanimously.

02:51:23.760 --> 02:51:26.760
Great.

02:51:28.960 --> 02:51:31.960
Now got all right. Notice of motion. No

02:51:32.560 --> 02:51:34.616
notices of motion reports by councelor

02:51:34.640 --> 02:51:36.696
delegates. Any items that councilors

02:51:36.720 --> 02:51:39.720
wish to share? Deputy may

02:51:39.920 --> 02:51:42.295
thank you.  I'd just like to briefly

02:51:42.319 --> 02:51:45.319
comment on the fact that um I was 

02:51:46.399 --> 02:51:47.896
given the opportunity earlier in the

02:51:47.920 --> 02:51:50.216
week to visit the police academy at

02:51:50.240 --> 02:51:53.240
Glenn Waverly. Glenn Waverly um

02:51:53.840 --> 02:51:56.696
magnificent place. It's very old. It

02:51:56.720 --> 02:51:58.856
needs a lot more money  to be spent on

02:51:58.880 --> 02:52:01.496
it to bring it up to date. But what what

02:52:01.520 --> 02:52:03.736
they are working with they are doing a

02:52:03.760 --> 02:52:06.375
magnificent job. the police are much

02:52:06.399 --> 02:52:09.399
maligned in various parts of society.

02:52:11.120 --> 02:52:14.120
 it was great to see many of the 400

02:52:14.399 --> 02:52:15.896
current

02:52:15.920 --> 02:52:18.136
 recruits out there who were working

02:52:18.160 --> 02:52:21.160
through the system and the various 

02:52:21.439 --> 02:52:23.496
activities that  they were going

02:52:23.520 --> 02:52:25.736
through. We we went through the went to

02:52:25.760 --> 02:52:27.816
the shooting range. We looked at some

02:52:27.840 --> 02:52:29.656
incidents and the way they dealt with

02:52:29.680 --> 02:52:32.536
people and all the rest of it. Um, if

02:52:32.560 --> 02:52:34.856
you have an opportunity to go there, you

02:52:34.880 --> 02:52:37.176
should do it. Um, it was a rare

02:52:37.200 --> 02:52:39.976
occurrence, I'm advised, and so, as I

02:52:40.000 --> 02:52:41.976
say, I was very fortunate. I know the

02:52:42.000 --> 02:52:44.776
Mayor was also very happy with the

02:52:44.800 --> 02:52:47.800
attending. They have a most magnificent

02:52:48.960 --> 02:52:50.536
um

02:52:50.560 --> 02:52:53.560
area for, I suppose, recognizing the the

02:52:56.080 --> 02:52:58.455
um officers that have fallen in the line

02:52:58.479 --> 02:53:00.216
of duty.

02:53:00.240 --> 02:53:03.176
 and  as I say it was a terrific

02:53:03.200 --> 02:53:05.736
visit. So  very happy with that. Thank

02:53:05.760 --> 02:53:06.776
you.

02:53:06.800 --> 02:53:09.335
Thank you Deputy May M. And  just on

02:53:09.359 --> 02:53:10.696
that item do want to thank the city of

02:53:10.720 --> 02:53:13.656
Glenara for organizing that  tour as

02:53:13.680 --> 02:53:15.496
well that was coordinated through the

02:53:15.520 --> 02:53:17.656
city of Glenara and they invited us to

02:53:17.680 --> 02:53:19.576
be part of that contingent as well as

02:53:19.600 --> 02:53:22.136
city of Bayside and you know great

02:53:22.160 --> 02:53:24.136
example of collaboration across 

02:53:24.160 --> 02:53:26.375
neighboring councils. Any other delegate

02:53:26.399 --> 02:53:28.056
reports that we wish to share? Councelor

02:53:28.080 --> 02:53:30.936
Timman, did you?

02:53:30.960 --> 02:53:33.816
Yeah. Any other councilors?

02:53:33.840 --> 02:53:36.840
, item 15.1,

02:53:37.200 --> 02:53:39.896
we do have a delegate report just

02:53:39.920 --> 02:53:41.976
outlining the municipal association of

02:53:42.000 --> 02:53:44.936
Victoria. I know often there is

02:53:44.960 --> 02:53:47.096
community commentary around the value of

02:53:47.120 --> 02:53:49.896
the MAV and this is  that delegate

02:53:49.920 --> 02:53:51.255
report really just highlights the

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various different interactions that we

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have with the municipal association

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Victoria as a peak state body that

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represents local government.  this

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being my third term in local government

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 with a break in between I've seen the

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MAV Eb and Wayne it is now in a real

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position of strength and do want to

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recognize the work of the MAV 

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including the delegation of CRA that I

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spoke about a few meetings ago and also

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their further work particularly around

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social cohesion and really highlighting

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the value of local government to both

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the state government but also the

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Commonwealth government as as well.

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Any other councilors wish to share

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delegate reports

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in which case I will

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move on from that item. Any other urgent

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there's no urgent business this evening

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and there are no confidential items

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tonight.

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So now we can close a meeting. And

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councelor Crawford, you were correct. We

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probably didn't need that extension.

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We got there right at 10:00 p.m. Meeting

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closed.