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Good evening and welcome to tonight's

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meeting of Port Phillip Council. Council as

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always respectfully acknowledges

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traditional owners and custodians of the

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Kulin Nation. We acknowledge their

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legacy and spiritual connection to land,

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sea, and country and pay our heartfelt

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respects to Elders past, present, and

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emerging and recognize of course 

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reconciliation week and national sorry

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day last week as well. Tonight's meeting

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is being conducted in a hybrid style and

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is streamed via council's webcast page

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and Facebook live. So streams and

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recordings of council meetings are

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copyrighted and cannot be outed,

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reproduced or republished without the

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permission of council. And if we

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experience any technical difficulties

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this evening, we will adjourn tonight's

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meeting for a short time to resolve any

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issues that might emerge.

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 in the unlikely event of an

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emergency, please do follow the

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direction of the emergency wardens and

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governance team over by the door on my

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right to your left. Councilors, do we

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have any apologies here this evening? We

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have the Deputy Mayor, Brian Mears, who

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might be attending a bit later on, but

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is currently an apology. No other

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apologies.

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In which case we have the minutes of the

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council meeting on the 20th of May.

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They've been circulated. Are there any

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questions regarding these minutes?

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No questions. If not, can we have

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someone who wishes to move those

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minutes? Move. Councelor Thomann

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seconded. Councelor Halliday. We'll

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put that motion to a vote.

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Being procedural, that is carried.

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Any declarations of interest or conflict

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of interest in any matters being

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discussed at tonight's meeting?

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The silence indicates there are no

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conflicts.

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I'm just checking with our governance

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team.

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All good. Great. As I mentioned at the

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start of the meeting, and thank you to

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those of you that are here in person and

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also to those of you that join online as

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well. Good evening again.

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Over the past week, we have recognized

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National Reconciliation Week and that's

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a time for council and our community to

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come together and acknowledge the

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enduring cultures, histories, and

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contributions of Aboriginal and

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Torres Strait Islander people This year's

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theme is allin and it really calls

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on all of us to commit wholeheartedly to

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reconciliation every day through shared

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responsibility, meaningful action and

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sustained commitment. Council's third

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reconciliation action plan  was

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launched this time last year and it

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reinforces council our commitment to

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prioritize first people's voices, enable

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self-determination

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and foster equity, inclusion and

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cultural safety. So throughout the week

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last week and  many councilors 

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joined me in those occasions. We

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recognized national sorry day. We

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recognized national reconciliation week

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with a lunch through the portfoliation

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and also councilors undertook

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professional development last week on

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treaty and first nations communities

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more broadly. We also

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illuminated the town hall in red and

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yellow and also flew the Aboriginal flag

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and did the flag raising ceremony last

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Wednesday as well from the top of the

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building. So did want to recognize the

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importance and significance of

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reconciliation week.

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I also wanted to bring to our

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community's attention another good news

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story around successful advocacy and do

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wish to formally declare that we welcome

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the Victorian government's updated

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waterway rules at the St Kilda Pier

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including stronger restrictions on

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personal watercraft to help deliver

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calmer and safer waters for our

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community.

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These changes expand the no boating zone

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and prohibit jet skis and boats from

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being in front of the terrace seating

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and underneath the pier. Council in

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conjunction with our community advocated

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strongly for these measures and do thank

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councelor Thomann for your notice of

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motion last year on this issue

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based on the committee concerns that

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were raised and highlighting the need

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for action. So do wish to thank the

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state government for its action around

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the pier as a council we

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would like to see exclusion zones

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extended more broadly along the

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foreshore but we should take this time

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to acknowledge the steps that have been

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undertaken so far. So we do we  look

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forward to continue working with the

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Victorian government safe transport

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Victoria and other agencies

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to on this enforcement and also on

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further safety measures to protect

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beachgoers and keep our coastline safe

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for all. Once again, a thank you to the

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many voices in our community that joined

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in our advocacy raises with council and

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also for the advocacy that we undertook

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as a council following the notice of

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motion last year.

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And our last  message for this evening

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is one from Pat Brown OAM.  some of you

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may recall that on the 22nd of April we

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recognized Kathleen otherwise Patricia

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otherwise known as Pat Brown OAM on the

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occasion of their 100th birthday and

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Pat's significant contribution to the

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commuting to including multiple terms of

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service on Port Phillip and the South

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Melbourne city councils.

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Pat  kindly sent me an email 

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thanking us for that acknowledgement and

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she would wish to  have her email 

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read out this evening. So I quote,

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"Kindly accept my humble gratitude for

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your warm congratulations on achieving

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 my centenery birthday. It was

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certainly an exciting and thrilling day

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of celebration. I very much regret my

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inability to be present in the council

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chamber to hear your recognition of my

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service to the community and thank you

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for the honor. I believe it is a rare

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privilege to be elected to local

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government and the opportunity to

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experience the process of decision-making.

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May you and the councilors continue to

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serve the community of the city of Port

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Phillip. Thank you Pat Brown for your

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wishes, your message and also once again

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in reaching such a fabulous milestone.

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 Pat has been interviewed through

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diversity. So you'll be able to learn

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more about Pat Brown and her

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contributions through  the City of

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Port Phillip diversity newsletter as

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well.

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After all those messages, we can now

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lead into our public question time and

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submissions. So we're now going to be

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hearing public questions and submissions

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on report items. So under council's

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governance rules, public questions can

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only be asked about items not on the

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agenda. So public questions are then

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referred to an officer for a response.

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If you're speaking to an agenda item,

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then that's a submission that is taken

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on behalf of the council and a counselor

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may wish to then ask those questions on

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your behalf. Just a reminder that

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members of the public must not disclose

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another individual's personal or

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confidential information such as a

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person's name, address, or any other

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piece of information that is not

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publicly available or anything that

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would be considered private. And should

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anyone participating at tonight's

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meeting not take direction from the

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chair, being myself, or comply with

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these conditions, council does have the

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discretion to remove them from the

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meeting. And just a reminder that please

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 extend due courtesy and respect to

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council and the processes under which we

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operate as well. So we'll move into

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public question time and our first

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question is from Trevor Bunny. Come on

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down. Please start with your name and

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suburb and then you'll have up to two

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minutes to speak.

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Welcome Trevor.

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 Trevor Bunny. I live in Port

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Melbourne. I've recently bought a

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property in Ralph Street. Previous to

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that, I was living up in Evan Street

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near the Northport Hotel and to this

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council incidentally. Thank you for

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? the park. It's brilliant and  I

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believe that you guys were instrumental

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in making that happen. Thank you. That's

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a little sidebar since moving into

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the  apartment that I recently

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bought, I noticed that the hoon behavior

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from motorbikes and cars is much more

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noticeable down the beach end of Bay

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Street living up in Evan Street near

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the Northport Hotel. About 9:30 every

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evening, you could hear the motor

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motorbikes roaring, literally roaring

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up Bay Street And

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several blocks away at my residence

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in Evans Street, I thought, you know,

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they're extremely loud. Now, leaving one

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block off the pace, it is incredibly

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loud. They are accelerating from the two

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traffic lights from the beach moving up

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Bay Street. I've got a bike driver's

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license. I used to ride bikes many years

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ago obviously but the power that

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those machines have and when you hear

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them accelerating strongly through

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first, second, third gear, then perhaps

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up even into fourth, they must be doing

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close to 100 km an hour in a 40 zone.

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I'm just really concerned that the

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wisdom the number of  people in that

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part of town. There's four pubs on the

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first block there. There's more cafes,

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bars, restaurants up the street, which

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is phenomenal. It's a incredible place

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to live. I'm just really concerned that

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one night someone's going to walk out

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there after having a couple of drinks

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too many, could even be me, and he's

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going to get hit hi Heather. Thank

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you for meeting me at the forum the

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other evening so basically just

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concerned we just want to make  this

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group aware that it is a real problem.

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It's a real situation and something does

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need to be done to for public safety in

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the moment.

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Thank you Trevor. A response will be

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provided by Mike Fischer manager of city

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planning and sustainability.

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 through you may thank you for the

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question and the concerns. So council

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is is certainly aware of the community

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concerns relating to hooning within Port

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Melbourne  in the area and have

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received a number of requests to address

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road safety and amenity concerns

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relating to the issue. So we understand

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these behaviors are a significant issue

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for the affected residents and visitors

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as well as you mentioned so as well

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as working with police to address the

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hoon activity, officers are currently

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assessing the community requests and

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reviewing options to provide a

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coordinated response to the matter and

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these options are to be discussed with

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the counselors in July.

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Great. Thank you very much.

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Thank you for the opportunity to speak.

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And it might be worth touching on some

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of our advocacy as well, Mr. CEO.

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Yeah, thank you Mayor.  just noting

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that we also have been doing work on our

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acoustic camera trial that's been

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announced by the  state government and

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 we understand that city of Port

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Phillip will be one of the locations.

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We're still working through the details.

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We had a briefing with the local police

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commander last week more broadly. He was

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also very supportive of efforts in that

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space.

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Thank you.

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 next public question is from Frank

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Artuso.

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I know you know the drill, Frank, but

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 for consistency, two minutes

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starting with your name and suburb.

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It takes me two minutes to get to the

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table.

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Frank Artuso Albert Park. If it's not

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visible on the street, road safety isn't

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working in the public interest. Question

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one, what evidence demonstrates that

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lessons from the Department of Transport

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2022 pop-up bike lane trial have

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informed road map to zero and how will

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those lessons be applied in future

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project delivery across the strategy

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fourpillar approach? Question two, what

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is the heir's traffic counts program and

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how does it inform the strategy

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currently and decision-making in the

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next five years? Question three, how has

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RMIT research and lower speed limits and

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their impact on pedestrians and cyclists

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safety and vehicle travel times informed

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the strategy? Question four. Since Port

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Phillips road user safety strategy in

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2013,

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Melbourne's most popular vehicle has

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shifted from the Toyota Corolla to the

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Ford Ranger, which is 77% larger in

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volume and nearly twice as heavy, which

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actions within the strategy specifically

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address  this trend. Question five,

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given planning schema  amendment

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VC277,

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revision of car parking requirements in

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multi-unit developments, how has this

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change incorporated into the strategy

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with respect to transport and car

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parking impacts?

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Question six, with what specific

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elements of road map to zero will be

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subject to internal and external

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professional risk assessment and audit

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and how frequently will those reviews

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occur? Question seven, how will the

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council coordinate action 3.3

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implementation of the 2025 Victorian

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speeds  zoning policy around schools

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with action 2.3 consultation and safety

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system assessment process.

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Thank you, Frank. The response will be

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provided by Mike Fischer, manager of

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city planning and sustainability.

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through you may and thank you for the

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questions Frank. So question one the

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safe travel strategy is intended to

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provide a consistent and transparent

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approach to raid safety in Port Phillip

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aligned with the state and federal

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government. The strategy is not an

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implementation plan for bike lanes or

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any other mode of transport. Any future

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infrastructure projects, including new

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bike lanes delivered by the city of Port

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Phillip, will continue to be subject to

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detailed investigations to determine

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their impact and benefits and be subject

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to public engagement in accordance with

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the comm council's community engagement

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policy and report to council for

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endorsement.  question two, um,

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artificial intelligence road safety

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survey sensors provide council with

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in-depth insights on the movement of

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different user types at specific

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locations.  unlike traditional traffic

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surveys, the data gathered through these

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sensors can identify the movement of

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people and not just vehicles and can

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identify incidents classified as near

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misses. This provides council with

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greater insights to road safety risk

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allowing us to be more proactive in

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addressing road safety rather than

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waiting for an incident to occur.

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 question three,  while the research

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referred to was not directly used to

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inform the strategy, the findings

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support the state government's

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introduction of the new 30 km  an hour

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speed limits at targeted locations and

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its recently updated speed zone policy.

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The research modeled the impact of

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blanket restrictions to speed limits on

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local roads in Melbourne, which is a

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scenario that is not considered under

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the strategy.

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The research also highlighted that

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safety benefits of reduced speed limits

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outweighs the impact on journey times.

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Question four, the size and weight of a

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vehicle are important contributing fact

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elements in  determining the severity

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of a crash particularly for vulnerable

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road users such as pedestrians. Safe

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vehicles are one component of the safe

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system approach  within the strategy.

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However, all the actions of the strategy

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are designed to ensure that when crashes

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do occur, the overall likelihood of that

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crash resulting in a fatal or serious

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injury are diminished.

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Question  number five. So, while this

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amendment has not been a direct input to

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the safe travel strategy, the overall

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intent of the strategy is to achieve

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zero deaths or serious injuries in Port

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Phillip by 2050 regardless of what mode

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of transport people are using. Um,

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question number six. Um, as part of the

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design process for any future road

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infrastructure projects, an independent

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road safety audit would be undertaken by

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a professionally qualified audit team.

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The safe system principles in the safe

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travel strategy are embedded within

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national road safety audit guidelines.

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 and just to note that the safe

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travel strategy has been reviewed and

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endorsed by the transport accident

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commission whose role it is to provide

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promote road safety and support those

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injured um on the road network in

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Victoria. And question seven, um,

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council would seek community feedback on

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speed zone changes in alignment with the

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council's engagement policy.  the

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Victorian speed zone zoning policy

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provides specific guidance for

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stakeholder engagement and speed limits

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um on school speed zones.

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Thank you, Frank.

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Thank you, Frank. Our next question is

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from John Webster.

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not here. John's not online at all.

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In which case, our next question will be

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from Maria Yevik. Welcome.

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Thank you.

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Starting with your name, suburb, and

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then up to two minutes. Maria, welcome.

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Thank you. My name's Maria Jevik and I

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run the planetary healing artists

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association of Australia for the LA past

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15 years. We're a multicultural

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community arts organization and this

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place has been a major part of my life.

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So look, for years while renting a small

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office from council in in at Mary Kho

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Center at the back, we have experienced

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ongoing security issues and unauthorized

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access that have not been adequately

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addressed. And it this changed when we

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installed CCTV cameras. The footage

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showed um strangers in our space

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without our consent opening drawers,

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handling our belongings, taking items

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and leaving damage behind. I reported

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the incident incidents incidents and

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then memory card from our CTV camera

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disappeared rendering the camera

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useless. evidence manage vanishes when

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we need help. Please first I ask can we

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the council can we change the locks or

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allow us to do it for the safety of our

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volunteers and

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and the our property.

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Second, I can consider a period of rent

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relief to help replace stolen damaged

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property of over $1,000. Third, launch

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an immediate and transparent in

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investigation into who has access to our

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building, why people have been entering

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without notice, and what happened to our

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CTV footage. Finally, I ask council to

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address the ongoing failures of property

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management and delays and months for

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urgent requests. on one occasion.

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Yep.

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Windows were painted shut affecting

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ventilation and the health of our

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volunteers. Yet, it took three months to

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receive a response.

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Thanks, Maria. We're at time. So, 

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those responses will be provided by

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Vetty Tukton, our manager of property.

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And

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thank you,

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Mayor. We'll take that on notice. Thank

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you. Yeah.

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So, we'll take the question on notice

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and provide a response in in writing.

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In writing. Okay.

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Thanks, Maria.

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Next question is

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starting with your name, suburb, and

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then up to two minutes. Welcome,

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Michael.

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Hello. Um, Michael Sabata. I'm a

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resident of South Melbourne. Um,

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yesterday I received a in the mail a DL

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postcard help shape South Melbourne Town

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Hall public space. I have a few

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questions about it. Um, how many of

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these have been mailed out?  two, can

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they break down by postcode of those

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that have been  sent? Please be

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provided

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 this invitation. Um, and have they

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been distributed in any other manner?

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Eg. letter boxing as I know that 

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residents across from South Melbourne

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Town have across from South Melbourne

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Town Hall have received nothing in the

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mail  or in their letter boxes.

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 my fourth question is why are there

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no posters or these  DL cards in any

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of the public locations in South

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Melbourne such as the Emerald Library

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and I was there last night and I can

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tell you there was nothing there. South

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Melbourne Community Center, South

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Melbourne Maternal and Child Health

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Center, Salt Green Reserve, South

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Melbourne Market, etc. areas where you'd

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expect residents who would would want to

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have a say  would be present and might

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be encouraged. And my fifth question is,

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will the future stage of the project

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allow review and input by the public as

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the design becomes more detailed? Unlike

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the case of the south ninj hall where

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residents had no idea that city of poor

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field for example was going to demolish

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a part of the west wing of the building

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nor the some of the other extensive

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works that have taken place there. The

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um manner of the consultation I'm

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seeking to clarify is whether it's going

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to be two-way or whether we're simply

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going to be our people's good intentions

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and motherhood statements are all that's

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going to be um recorded in terms of

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public input. Thank you.

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Thank you, Michael. A response will be

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provided by Mike Fischer, our manager of

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city planning and sustainability.

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 through you, Mayor, and thank you for

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the question, Michael. So, in regards to

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the number of postcards, a total of

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3,166

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postcards have been distributed to

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owners and occupiers within a 400 meter

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radius of the Emerald Hill  site. 

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in terms of a breakdown of of um post

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code, the majority of recipients are

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located when the post code 3205 in South

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Melbourne. However, the mail mail out

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was not strictly postcode based based on

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that 400 meter radius. So it captures

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all properties within that 400 meter

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radius regardless of post code. That

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means some recipients outside this

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postcode may have been included where

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they fall within it.  in terms of the

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postcards have been distributed via

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Australia Post and delivery has been

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scheduled within the 1st to the 3rd of

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June window this week. Um I'm happy to

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follow up on those properties if um to

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get those addresses and just follow up

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on that just to make sure that they have

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got those if they're within that radius.

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Um in addition to the mail out 14 core

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flute signs are being installed on site

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and around the Emerald Hill precinct.

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Installation is occurring from today

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onwards. Posters will also be displayed

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at relevant council and community

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facilities including locations such as

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the Emerald Hill Library, South

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Melbourne Community Center and others.

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And the roll out will be this week and

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into next week. Um and in terms of the

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the future the engagement and future

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engagement. So the pro the project has

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two stages of community engagement. The

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stage one is currently underway runs

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until the 28th of June and feedback from

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the stage will then inform the draft

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master plan.  stage two engagement is

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in anticipated in late 2026 early 2027

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which provides a further opportunity for

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the community to review and provide

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input on the more detailed and developed

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design. So um certainly um some clear

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opportunities for good engagement and

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we're really open to hearing that

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feedback um from now. So thank you.

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Thank you Mike

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and well done also for the committee

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forum last week at Paul Melbourne Town

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Hall.

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That concludes  public question time.

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So now we'll move into speaking to an

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agenda item. Once again, the same rules

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apply.  you have up to two minutes

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starting with your name and suburb.

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We'll start with item 8.1. So our

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speaker here is Jane

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Tazelle.

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Jane.

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I thought the item had been moved.

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Welcome Jane. Starting with your name

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and suburb and up to two minutes.

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Very much Jane Tuzo

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Lwood,

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my favorite place. Um I just want to

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talk about the

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submission to the Royal Commission

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on um anticis.

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Um thank you for the opportunity to

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comment on the draft submission.

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I just have two brief points to make um

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thinking about the presentation of our

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city to a national audience via this

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submission.

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The first point relates to the

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description of the attack on the Addis

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Israel synagogue in relation to the

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police charge and magistrate summing up

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on page five of attachment one in the

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documents that are with the agenda. The

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top of the list of issues is terrorism.

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In paragraph four of the same page,

00:25:38.880 --> 00:25:41.416
terrorism is repeated.

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However, the joint counterterrorism

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task force did not charge any of the

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participants with terrorism, which is

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terrorism is something defined under the

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Criminal Code Act 1995 Commonwealth.

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On page 10, attachment one, the third

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subheading in paragraph 2 refers to the

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firebombing of the synagogue.

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Now, the Australian Federal Police

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newsletter of 21st of August 25 states

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the charges laid against the three young

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men in the stolen car. On the 16th of

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July 25, a 20-year-old man from Milton

00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:23.240
South was charged by the task force with

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theft of a motor vehicle used.

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On the 30th of July 2025, a 21-year-old

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Wereoughby man was charged by the task

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force with being one of three who broke

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into the synagogue and set the fire. And

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on 21st of August 2025, a 20-year-old

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man from Middle Heights was charged with

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criminal damage by fire.

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Almost a time, Jane. Oh, 3 seconds.

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Oh, I'm running out. Okay. So, anyway,

00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:49.816
so none of those charges relate.

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If you can please wrap up, we're at

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time. We're at 2 minutes.

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Okay.

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Thank you, Jane.

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I'll send it in.

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No.

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So,  now moves us to item 10.1, the

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Silda Marina. We have,  submitter

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from Peter Dunn. Come on down, starting

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with your name and suburb.

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Thank you for the opportunity to speak

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and I here with my colleagues. I just

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want to clarify that we're not pilots

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nor security personnel. Um in fact we

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we're marine rescue volunteers. Um so

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Coast Guard Sincera has been providing

00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:33.336
marine rescue services for over 52 years

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at Sincilda. And sorry I should have

00:27:35.919 --> 00:27:37.976
said Peter Dunn sincer at the start

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shouldn't I? Um, we're part of Emergency

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Management Victoria's Marine Search and

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Rescue Office. We have about 60

00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:48.856
volunteer members.  we don't have any

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paid personnel. Our long-term averages

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are around 2,000 people rescued and

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about 60 vessels rescued per year. We

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provide training assistance to hems

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rescue pilots, winch operators, and

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paramedics and public training in safe

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boating. We are located at Sincera

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Marina and so we have a large interest

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in marina leasing and any development

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that may occur. What we would like is to

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be kept directly informed and not rely

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on newsletters and the like to be

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listened to about our needs to be

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involved in any marina development

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discussions.

00:28:29.840 --> 00:28:32.840
ensure that our leasing needs are met

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and so that we can continue to meet safe

00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:39.480
boating and rescue needs for the public

00:28:39.679 --> 00:28:42.679
of Victoria. And yes, we are also

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challenged by matters around jet skis

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from time to time.

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Thank you for the opportunity. Thank

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you, Peter. And a counselor may wish to

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take  your questions on your behalf

00:28:53.679 --> 00:28:55.096
when we get to that agenda item. So,

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thank you for your submission to item

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10.1.

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Thank you. That brings us now to item

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13.1, the proposal to readress the

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Hallmark building. Starting with

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Victoria Goodwin, if you  who's

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joining us online. No,

00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:14.535
we might come back to Victoria if she

00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:16.535
joins a bit later on, in which case

00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:19.559
we're over to Karen Baines. Welcome.

00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:24.216
And starting with your name and suburb

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and then up to two minutes. Karen,

00:29:26.159 --> 00:29:29.159
welcome.

00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.096
My name is Karen Baines and I live in

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South Melbourne. I have lived in an

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apartment adjacent to the Hallmark

00:29:37.679 --> 00:29:40.679
building for 28 years. In appreciation

00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:43.976
of time restraints tonight, I wish to

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make three key points.

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One, correcting the abnormality of

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numbering will remove the confusion in

00:29:52.399 --> 00:29:54.216
location for those attending the

00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:57.240
Hallmark building. It will also assist

00:29:57.679 --> 00:30:00.456
and resolve many issues for the local

00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:03.416
community at large, including

00:30:03.440 --> 00:30:05.496
alleviating some of the buildup of

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traffic on Albert Road. Point two, the

00:30:09.600 --> 00:30:12.600
necessity for accurate, direct, and

00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:15.799
timely emergency services response for

00:30:15.919 --> 00:30:18.456
the residents of the Hallmark building

00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:20.456
is paramount.

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This being a key reason why the new

00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.039
numbering as proposed must be adopted.

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Point three, renumbering of the hallmark

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will have benefits for their residents

00:30:33.600 --> 00:30:36.600
with vehicles attending more likely to

00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:39.336
utilize Park Street parking bays

00:30:39.360 --> 00:30:42.360
directly adjacent to their building or

00:30:42.399 --> 00:30:45.399
their services bays accessed off Skilda

00:30:45.520 --> 00:30:48.520
Road. the defaulting to Albert road road

00:30:49.840 --> 00:30:52.535
resulting in confusion, hindering and

00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:55.559
blocking of access to other buildings as

00:30:55.679 --> 00:30:57.816
well as the encroachment on the bike

00:30:57.840 --> 00:31:00.840
lane will be greatly reduced as a direct

00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.960
result. In conclusion, I strongly urge

00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:07.816
councilors to endorse the readressing of

00:31:07.840 --> 00:31:10.840
the Hallmark building to 384 Silda Road,

00:31:11.600 --> 00:31:14.600
Melbourne as proposed and without delay.

00:31:15.120 --> 00:31:17.416
Thank you. Thank you.

00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:20.056
Thank you, Karen.  next speaker is

00:31:20.080 --> 00:31:21.655
Maxwell Goodwin, who's joining us

00:31:21.679 --> 00:31:24.456
online. Nope, we might come back to

00:31:24.480 --> 00:31:26.696
Maxwell.

00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:28.856
In which case, our next submitter to

00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:31.880
this item is Liz White. Come on down.

00:31:32.159 --> 00:31:33.976
Starting with your name, suburb, and up

00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:36.296
to two minutes. Welcome, Liz.

00:31:36.320 --> 00:31:37.576
Thank you, Mayor, and thank you,

00:31:37.600 --> 00:31:40.600
councilors. Um, my name is Liz White.

00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:43.880
I'm an owner of um unit 1110 at the

00:31:44.320 --> 00:31:46.535
Hallmark. I am also chair of the

00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:49.559
Hallmark Owners Corporation Committee.

00:31:49.679 --> 00:31:52.679
 we are a legal entity of 155 lot

00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:56.279
owners comprising well over 300 owner

00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:00.039
occupiers, tenants, landlords, and

00:32:00.080 --> 00:32:02.775
registered businesses on site. And

00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:05.655
whilst I'm not here to advocate for a

00:32:05.679 --> 00:32:08.535
position, it is my duty of care to

00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:11.015
provide context and facts that help

00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:14.039
inform your decision tonight, as well as

00:32:14.080 --> 00:32:16.216
any ongoing discussions with our

00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:19.176
stakeholders. It has been two close to

00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:21.255
two years since this issue was first

00:32:21.279 --> 00:32:24.279
raised um and one year since the closing

00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:27.559
date for lot owners to submit um to

00:32:27.679 --> 00:32:29.736
provide submissions to council.

00:32:29.760 --> 00:32:31.736
Respectfully, this form of community

00:32:31.760 --> 00:32:34.216
cons consultation actually represents a

00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:37.240
straw poll from our our perspective.

00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:39.736
Ideally, the issue and council's

00:32:39.760 --> 00:32:41.576
recommendation would have been

00:32:41.600 --> 00:32:44.375
transparently discussed at our recent

00:32:44.399 --> 00:32:47.399
AGM on the 20th of April 2026

00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:51.015
 with a large proportion of lot owners

00:32:51.039 --> 00:32:53.976
in attendance. But in effect, um the

00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:55.895
first we've seen of the proposal in

00:32:55.919 --> 00:32:57.895
front of you tonight was when it was

00:32:57.919 --> 00:33:00.919
released um with the agenda on Friday.

00:33:01.840 --> 00:33:04.840
Um so four points to make.  the

00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:07.736
proposal and recommendations in their

00:33:07.760 --> 00:33:10.135
current form  demonstrate an

00:33:10.159 --> 00:33:12.216
inconsistent application of standards

00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.216
between number two Albert Road and

00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:16.775
number one Albert Road and there's no

00:33:16.799 --> 00:33:19.495
structural impact assessment including

00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:21.655
financial implications. The

00:33:21.679 --> 00:33:23.655
recommendation doesn't draw draw on a

00:33:23.679 --> 00:33:26.679
body of evidence and um the proposal

00:33:27.600 --> 00:33:29.895
collectively refers to emergency

00:33:29.919 --> 00:33:32.919
services when um this is um ambulance

00:33:33.600 --> 00:33:36.600
attendance and has um and police and

00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:39.176
fire services have not raised or

00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:41.416
acknowledged similar concerns. Thank

00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:41.736
you.

00:33:41.760 --> 00:33:43.255
Thank you, Liz. Right on time. Well

00:33:43.279 --> 00:33:44.775
done.

00:33:44.799 --> 00:33:47.799
 next speaker to this item is Ray

00:33:48.080 --> 00:33:49.655
Wells.

00:33:49.679 --> 00:33:52.616
Ray is joining us online. Welcome Ray.

00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:55.640
Good evening.

00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.519
May wish to unmute.

00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:10.615
We can come back to Ray. Maybe just

00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:12.936
check his microphone settings. We will

00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:14.456
come back to you Ray. Thank you for

00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:17.480
joining us online. Our next speaker is

00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:21.095
Trevor Southerntherland joining us in

00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:24.119
person here this evening.

00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:27.095
Welcome Trevor. Starting with your name

00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:29.496
suburb and then up to two minutes.

00:34:29.520 --> 00:34:31.176
Thank you very much.  I'm Trevor

00:34:31.200 --> 00:34:32.776
Southerntherland. I live at the Hallmark

00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:34.936
Apartments in Albert Road in South

00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:37.960
Melbourne. Um I felt I had to come and

00:34:39.200 --> 00:34:41.416
speak to council about this proposal

00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:43.335
that's been put tonight to readress our

00:34:43.359 --> 00:34:45.976
building. I feel it's that the case

00:34:46.000 --> 00:34:48.456
that's been made is extremely weak. Um

00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:51.480
it talks about unsafe delivery practices

00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:55.320
may result in delays for emer emergency

00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:58.696
services but no incidents have been

00:34:58.720 --> 00:35:01.416
reported. It's a risk consideration but

00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:04.296
not a compliance consideration. And now

00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:06.296
we've had our neighbors say it's would

00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.536
be more convenient for us if we had a

00:35:08.560 --> 00:35:11.560
secur road address. Well, in fact, I

00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:14.136
think that completely misunderstands the

00:35:14.160 --> 00:35:16.856
the scale of confusion that would be

00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:19.736
caused if we were required to change all

00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:22.760
300 owners and occupiers. We're required

00:35:23.200 --> 00:35:25.335
to change our addresses in Ca Road. The

00:35:25.359 --> 00:35:27.736
submission from council officers does

00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:30.296
recognize some of that administration.

00:35:30.320 --> 00:35:32.696
It mentions 17 different types of

00:35:32.720 --> 00:35:34.776
entities that we would need to advise of

00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:37.416
our change. I can think of numerous

00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:40.440
more. um for example, wills, powers of

00:35:40.560 --> 00:35:42.936
attorney, Medicare cards, MBN, internet

00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:44.776
providers, and all of our personal

00:35:44.800 --> 00:35:46.616
contacts.

00:35:46.640 --> 00:35:49.640
And to me, the risk that we're talking

00:35:49.680 --> 00:35:51.575
about, the problem we're talking about

00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:54.216
solving here  is completely

00:35:54.240 --> 00:35:56.136
overwhelmed by the chaos and confusion

00:35:56.160 --> 00:35:58.456
that would be caused by the attempt to

00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:01.176
implement the response. To me, this

00:36:01.200 --> 00:36:04.200
seems a simple solution that the council

00:36:04.240 --> 00:36:06.456
could require the hallmark to improve

00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:09.480
the signage on the site to Albert Road.

00:36:09.680 --> 00:36:11.575
It can face Sincera Road. It can face

00:36:11.599 --> 00:36:13.736
Albert Road and to me that would resolve

00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:16.456
the issue satisfactorily. Thanks for

00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:18.055
your attention.

00:36:18.079 --> 00:36:21.079
Thank you very much, Trevor.

00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:25.079
We'll come back to Ray Wells.

00:36:26.240 --> 00:36:29.240
Welcome, Ray.

00:36:34.560 --> 00:36:36.536
just check  Ray if you wouldn't mind

00:36:36.560 --> 00:36:38.216
checking your microphone settings. It

00:36:38.240 --> 00:36:41.240
seems like you might be on mute still.

00:36:48.800 --> 00:36:51.800
All right, we'll 

00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:56.119
we'll call

00:36:57.359 --> 00:36:59.656
and  the deputy Mayor is just joined

00:36:59.680 --> 00:37:02.680
us as well, I believe.

00:37:06.240 --> 00:37:08.296
 other online speakers, Victoria

00:37:08.320 --> 00:37:11.320
Goodman, any update there?

00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:14.920
No. and also Maxwell Goodwin. Any

00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:18.599
update? We do have a submission from

00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:23.960
Donald Kite who is ill this evening. 

00:37:24.000 --> 00:37:27.000
so as per  governance rules 53.7 I

00:37:28.720 --> 00:37:31.720
will read that submission on his behalf.

00:37:32.720 --> 00:37:34.296
So we can start the timer. I've got two

00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:36.055
minutes starting with  the name and

00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:37.815
suburb of Donald Kite being South

00:37:37.839 --> 00:37:40.376
Melbourne. And Donald writes, "I write

00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:43.256
in support of agenda item 13.1.3

00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:45.335
recommendation proposing the renumbering

00:37:45.359 --> 00:37:48.055
of the Hallmark building to 384 St.

00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:51.079
Kilder Road from 2 to 4 Albert Road.

00:37:51.760 --> 00:37:53.416
I've observed with interest a

00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:55.095
reconfiguration of the Albert Road

00:37:55.119 --> 00:37:57.095
intersection with Siler Road resulting

00:37:57.119 --> 00:37:59.176
from the Metro Tunnel project. The

00:37:59.200 --> 00:38:01.976
reconfiguration has resulted in Sila

00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:03.976
Road including the cycle lane being

00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:05.815
extended to the Hallmark building and

00:38:05.839 --> 00:38:07.976
Albert Road ending with a set of traffic

00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:11.000
lights adjacent to 16 to 18 Albert Road.

00:38:12.079 --> 00:38:13.736
This change has caused significant

00:38:13.760 --> 00:38:16.216
confusion for anyone trying to locate

00:38:16.240 --> 00:38:18.616
number two Albert Road. Common sense

00:38:18.640 --> 00:38:20.136
would lead you to drive up Albert Road

00:38:20.160 --> 00:38:21.656
and expect to find number two at the end

00:38:21.680 --> 00:38:23.335
of the street. That is the building

00:38:23.359 --> 00:38:25.335
nearest to the traffic lights. However,

00:38:25.359 --> 00:38:27.496
number two is now around the corner.

00:38:27.520 --> 00:38:29.656
There are numerous impacts to number 18.

00:38:29.680 --> 00:38:32.216
Delivery drivers, taxis, and the like.

00:38:32.240 --> 00:38:34.055
Having reached the end of Albert Road,

00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:36.616
assume number 18 must be number two. And

00:38:36.640 --> 00:38:38.055
as they've reached the end of the street

00:38:38.079 --> 00:38:40.216
with nowhere to go other than through

00:38:40.240 --> 00:38:41.575
the traffic lights and there being no

00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:42.936
parking, they will either stop on the

00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.176
chevron outside number 18 in the

00:38:45.200 --> 00:38:47.736
driveway of number 18 or at worst park

00:38:47.760 --> 00:38:49.656
in the cycle lane, often leaving their

00:38:49.680 --> 00:38:52.216
vehicle unattended. The dangers of doing

00:38:52.240 --> 00:38:53.736
this are obvious. The intersection of

00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:55.736
Albert Road, St. Kilder Road and number

00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:57.896
18 Albert Road is already a dangerous

00:38:57.920 --> 00:38:59.976
configuration for residents trying to

00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:02.536
leave or enter 18 Albert Road without

00:39:02.560 --> 00:39:04.376
the congestion caused by confused and

00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:07.176
lost drivers or emergency vehicles. 

00:39:07.200 --> 00:39:08.856
the extremely short traffic cycle in

00:39:08.880 --> 00:39:10.936
Albert Road means that only one to two

00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:12.296
cars can get through the lights if the

00:39:12.320 --> 00:39:13.416
driver at the lights is paying

00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:15.416
attention. Sometimes no cars get

00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:17.016
through. The top of Albert Road is

00:39:17.040 --> 00:39:18.536
already a bottleneck, so drivers that

00:39:18.560 --> 00:39:20.055
are parked trying to find number two

00:39:20.079 --> 00:39:21.416
then have to try and get back to the

00:39:21.440 --> 00:39:23.256
traffic to exit Albert Road at the

00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:25.416
lights. Add to that vehicles trying to

00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:27.656
get both exit both number 18 and number

00:39:27.680 --> 00:39:29.656
20 Albert Road and result is a cluster

00:39:29.680 --> 00:39:31.736
of angry and frustrated drivers blocking

00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:33.176
up the end of the road with only a few

00:39:33.200 --> 00:39:34.776
seconds of a green light available to

00:39:34.800 --> 00:39:37.335
clear the mess. Whilst the intersection

00:39:37.359 --> 00:39:39.176
configuration's impacts on number 18 and

00:39:39.200 --> 00:39:41.335
20 Albert Road can only be described as

00:39:41.359 --> 00:39:43.496
chaotic. Redirecting traffic trying to

00:39:43.520 --> 00:39:45.736
find number two Albert Road should help

00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:47.656
with the ongoing situation for local

00:39:47.680 --> 00:39:50.136
residents.  that was submitted by

00:39:50.160 --> 00:39:52.536
Donald Kite who once again has fallen

00:39:52.560 --> 00:39:55.560
ill and  from South Melbourne.

00:39:56.560 --> 00:39:59.560
I'm going to come back to Ray Wells.

00:40:05.599 --> 00:40:08.599
Ray, are you there?

00:40:11.760 --> 00:40:14.376
I do have Ray's submission. So, what I

00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:17.400
might do, Ray with is just read that out

00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:20.440
on your behalf.

00:40:21.599 --> 00:40:24.599
Ray from South Melbourne, Ray Wells from

00:40:25.040 --> 00:40:28.040
South Melbourne, writes, "My name is Ray

00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.856
Wells, he lives in South Melbourne. 

00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:33.736
I have in the I have the inhome medical

00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:35.496
care with a nurse or other medical

00:40:35.520 --> 00:40:37.176
practitioners visiting two to three

00:40:37.200 --> 00:40:39.656
times a week. He frequently uses Uber to

00:40:39.680 --> 00:40:41.575
get to appointments. I often find

00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:43.335
vehicles parked in our driveway without

00:40:43.359 --> 00:40:45.736
a driver looking for the Hallmark,

00:40:45.760 --> 00:40:47.575
making deliveries or waiting for a

00:40:47.599 --> 00:40:49.496
passenger as they think the Hallmark is

00:40:49.520 --> 00:40:51.016
on Albert Road and don't know how to get

00:40:51.040 --> 00:40:53.095
it. This causes a significant problem

00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:54.856
for nurses and the like getting into

00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:57.176
Domain Hill to park in our building and

00:40:57.200 --> 00:40:59.176
exit later. This has caused significant

00:40:59.200 --> 00:41:02.055
delays to their important work schedule.

00:41:02.079 --> 00:41:04.055
I have the problem when I get an Uber as

00:41:04.079 --> 00:41:06.936
it needs to stop in my driveway. So I

00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:08.776
can transfer from the wheelchair into

00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:10.856
the front seat of the vehicle and the

00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:12.456
driver needs to put the wheelchair in

00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:14.536
the boot and access and need similar

00:41:14.560 --> 00:41:17.496
access when I come home in a vehicle.

00:41:17.520 --> 00:41:19.335
Emergency service vehicles such as a

00:41:19.359 --> 00:41:21.016
fire brigade stop in front of Domain

00:41:21.040 --> 00:41:23.256
Hill as they're entitled to do so

00:41:23.280 --> 00:41:24.856
instead of the hallmark from where they

00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:26.456
were called and where they required

00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:27.656
because they get the wrong address in

00:41:27.680 --> 00:41:29.656
Albert Road. And that was a submission

00:41:29.680 --> 00:41:32.680
from Ray Wells, South Melbourne.

00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:36.280
That  concludes our submissions to

00:41:36.319 --> 00:41:38.776
agenda items. So, councilors, now it's

00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:40.776
your turn. Any questions that you wish

00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:42.696
to raise for items not on tonight's

00:41:42.720 --> 00:41:45.720
agenda?

00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:52.119
No questions.

00:41:58.160 --> 00:42:00.136
in which case we'll move on with our

00:42:00.160 --> 00:42:02.776
agenda. Petitions, joint leaders and

00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:05.800
deputations of which we have none.

00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:10.599
So that takes us to our presentation of

00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:13.800
reports.  given the interest in item

00:42:14.319 --> 00:42:16.616
13.1  given the number of speakers for

00:42:16.640 --> 00:42:18.936
that item, I'm going to suggest that we

00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.335
move to this item first in line with

00:42:21.359 --> 00:42:23.416
chapter 2, provision 12 of our

00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:26.055
governance rules. So, what we'll do is

00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:27.815
call a 10-minute break and then we'll

00:42:27.839 --> 00:42:30.839
move on to item 13.1. So, we'll come

00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:34.599
back at 7:23 p.m.

00:42:37.680 --> 00:42:39.896
Same with you, Mr. CI. And welcome,

00:42:39.920 --> 00:42:42.920
Deputy Mayor M.

00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:48.376
Yes.

00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:50.295
Awesome. Welcome. Great to have you

00:42:50.319 --> 00:42:51.016
here.

00:42:51.040 --> 00:42:51.496
Ah,

00:42:51.520 --> 00:42:53.815
and we can hear you. Whilst I'm here and

00:42:53.839 --> 00:42:55.335
whilst everyone is collecting their

00:42:55.359 --> 00:42:57.736
thoughts, I just thought I'd show you

00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.760
the view outside the window.

00:43:01.839 --> 00:43:03.256
I don't know. Can you see that?

00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:05.176
Yep.

00:43:05.200 --> 00:43:07.896
Okay.

00:43:07.920 --> 00:43:09.976
That's the tender for the ship that I'm

00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:12.456
on at the moment.

00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:14.456
Thank you for the show and tell session,

00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:16.295
Deputy Mayor.  you're making us all

00:43:16.319 --> 00:43:18.136
envious.

00:43:18.160 --> 00:43:21.160
 it's important. Thank you.

00:43:22.240 --> 00:43:25.240
And now back to our items on the agenda

00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:28.440
beginning with

00:43:28.560 --> 00:43:31.560
item 13.1. Are there any questions for

00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:34.920
council officers for this item?

00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.119
Yes, it is. Yes, councelor J.

00:43:39.359 --> 00:43:42.359
Um,

00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:45.335
what kind of support are we providing 

00:43:45.359 --> 00:43:47.575
or do we plan to provide or are we

00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:49.656
suggesting that we provide owners and

00:43:49.680 --> 00:43:51.496
residents of Hallmark? I'm going to ask

00:43:51.520 --> 00:43:53.815
them all in one hit.

00:43:53.839 --> 00:43:56.055
How will the residents be advised and

00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:59.079
what's the timeline should this change

00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:02.119
go through?

00:44:02.240 --> 00:44:04.616
And your response will be provided by

00:44:04.640 --> 00:44:06.456
James Cullen, our acting GM of

00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:08.776
governance and performance.  thank you

00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:10.536
for the question councelor Jay and

00:44:10.560 --> 00:44:12.456
through you may um firstly I want to

00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:13.976
recognize that any change should it be

00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:15.815
endorsed um may have an impost on

00:44:15.839 --> 00:44:17.896
residents and and we are very mindful of

00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:20.776
that. Um what officers are seeking to do

00:44:20.800 --> 00:44:23.656
is try and reduce the impost of that um

00:44:23.680 --> 00:44:25.575
that update should it be passed on

00:44:25.599 --> 00:44:27.896
residents where possible. Um we've

00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:29.736
developed a suite of supports in that

00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:31.896
space. So things we're looking at doing

00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:34.055
is notifying all the major organizations

00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:36.856
on behalf of residents. So that's people

00:44:36.880 --> 00:44:39.880
like the electoral office, Google maps,

00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:42.920
um so some of the major telos, opost

00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.280
there's a list of about 15 to 20 um

00:44:46.319 --> 00:44:47.976
major entities that would look to notify

00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:50.136
on behalf of residents. We then look to

00:44:50.160 --> 00:44:52.295
provide and we've developed a change of

00:44:52.319 --> 00:44:54.536
address pack. So that looks at all the

00:44:54.560 --> 00:44:56.616
relevant checklists and ticks that

00:44:56.640 --> 00:44:58.936
support residents in their individual

00:44:58.960 --> 00:45:00.936
pursuits as well as a suite of template

00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:03.496
letters to contact and notify people

00:45:03.520 --> 00:45:06.055
like legal entities  internet

00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:08.136
companies and other bespoke supports

00:45:08.160 --> 00:45:10.776
that or services that each resident has.

00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:13.736
Um and then more broadly  would be

00:45:13.760 --> 00:45:15.896
looking at providing access to our road

00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:18.136
naming officer  who'd be there to

00:45:18.160 --> 00:45:20.376
provide ongoing advice. So just to

00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:21.976
clarify it wouldn't be administrative

00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:23.335
support. They wouldn't be filling out

00:45:23.359 --> 00:45:24.856
the letters, but they would be providing

00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:26.776
some advice to impacted residents to

00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:29.176
navigate the transition.  in terms of

00:45:29.200 --> 00:45:31.016
how we'd reach out to residents, we'd be

00:45:31.040 --> 00:45:31.976
working through the building's

00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:35.000
management  to circulate that formal

00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:37.095
um formal pack and those supports to all

00:45:37.119 --> 00:45:39.016
residents and notify them of the uplift

00:45:39.040 --> 00:45:41.736
and the change.  we'd also be open to

00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:43.496
facilitating an information session with

00:45:43.520 --> 00:45:45.176
the body corporate if that was able to

00:45:45.200 --> 00:45:47.736
be organized.  in terms of how long it

00:45:47.760 --> 00:45:50.696
takes um really be subject to the

00:45:50.720 --> 00:45:53.720
provisions of the the motion tonight um

00:45:54.079 --> 00:45:56.456
we'd not we'll be developing a a roll

00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:58.376
out timeline subject to the outcome of

00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:00.136
tonight's decision which will be

00:46:00.160 --> 00:46:02.536
communicated to residents. Um what I

00:46:02.560 --> 00:46:04.936
would note is um for a minimum of six

00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:07.575
months we've organized with opost 

00:46:07.599 --> 00:46:10.599
that both the new address and the old

00:46:10.640 --> 00:46:12.856
address would be in effect  and then

00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:14.856
they look to transition after 6 months

00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:16.616
to implementation of the new address. So

00:46:16.640 --> 00:46:18.936
we think 6 months would be the kind for

00:46:18.960 --> 00:46:20.856
residents the transition period in terms

00:46:20.880 --> 00:46:23.496
of how council agitate to enact and

00:46:23.520 --> 00:46:25.095
support residents would be looking to do

00:46:25.119 --> 00:46:26.936
that as soon as possible.

00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:28.856
James, just to clarify, are you saying

00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:31.016
that council has the ability to change

00:46:31.040 --> 00:46:33.095
the address on their behalf with some

00:46:33.119 --> 00:46:34.536
providers?

00:46:34.560 --> 00:46:37.560
We'd be um notifying Yes.  and

00:46:37.680 --> 00:46:39.656
particularly for council services, but

00:46:39.680 --> 00:46:41.496
um for some of those other providers

00:46:41.520 --> 00:46:43.176
would be seeking to act on behalf of

00:46:43.200 --> 00:46:44.376
impacted residents.

00:46:44.400 --> 00:46:46.936
So that would that would help um if this

00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:49.256
goes through the the administrative

00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:50.136
work.

00:46:50.160 --> 00:46:51.815
That's right. So we're looking at where

00:46:51.839 --> 00:46:54.136
possible to reduce as much of the the

00:46:54.160 --> 00:46:56.136
administrative impost on residents as we

00:46:56.160 --> 00:46:57.095
can.

00:46:57.119 --> 00:47:00.119
And do we have any idea of um  the

00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:04.280
costs  of changing um titles or things

00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:06.856
like that?

00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:09.880
 it's a a bit of a case by case

00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:12.136
nature. So for some people there'll be

00:47:12.160 --> 00:47:14.696
very very minimal costs in in associated

00:47:14.720 --> 00:47:16.536
with the change. farthers. Depending on

00:47:16.560 --> 00:47:19.016
the nature of the changes, it might be

00:47:19.040 --> 00:47:20.616
um a little bit more in terms of the

00:47:20.640 --> 00:47:22.216
exact amounts. I'd need to take that on

00:47:22.240 --> 00:47:24.216
notice and come back with with some

00:47:24.240 --> 00:47:26.536
amounts for you, but um we don't see it

00:47:26.560 --> 00:47:29.560
as a significant cost.

00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:33.335
Any further questions, councelor Jay?

00:47:33.359 --> 00:47:36.055
Otherwise, councelor Halliday.

00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:39.079
 thank you, Mayor. Do we often change

00:47:39.440 --> 00:47:42.440
the street name or number of a residence

00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:45.960
or a tenency or a parcel of land?

00:47:47.040 --> 00:47:49.335
 thank you for that question um

00:47:49.359 --> 00:47:50.856
councelor Halliday through you may we

00:47:50.880 --> 00:47:53.656
do  so we change by virtue of a range

00:47:53.680 --> 00:47:55.736
of different um for a range of different

00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:58.295
reasons but um generally what we have is

00:47:58.319 --> 00:48:00.936
a lot of um address anomalies within our

00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:02.616
municipality that cause confusion not

00:48:02.640 --> 00:48:04.616
just for residents but for people like

00:48:04.640 --> 00:48:06.776
delivery drivers, emergency services and

00:48:06.800 --> 00:48:09.800
other and other services. Um and we seek

00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:11.575
to remediate some of those legacy

00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:14.599
challenges as we as we move forward.

00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:17.496
Yes, councelor Halliday. Continue.

00:48:17.520 --> 00:48:20.456
Um, we heard also about the comparison

00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:22.535
of number one Albert Road, which is the

00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:24.616
old police building, I guess, on the

00:48:24.640 --> 00:48:27.095
corner of um, Sila Road and Albert Road.

00:48:27.119 --> 00:48:29.176
I'm just wondering if that building is

00:48:29.200 --> 00:48:31.815
in a similar or a different position.

00:48:31.839 --> 00:48:33.976
Um, you know, have we reviewed that

00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:36.136
building for its appropriateness of its

00:48:36.160 --> 00:48:38.616
address there where it um, whether it

00:48:38.640 --> 00:48:40.376
should be on Albert or on St. Kilder

00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:41.575
Road?

00:48:41.599 --> 00:48:44.376
Um, thank you, Council Holiday. through

00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:46.216
you, Mayor. Um, I'd need to take that

00:48:46.240 --> 00:48:48.376
question on notice. What I can say is we

00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:51.016
are guided by um relevant legislative

00:48:51.040 --> 00:48:53.496
provisions under the road naming 

00:48:53.520 --> 00:48:55.095
rules in Victoria, which have

00:48:55.119 --> 00:48:57.496
recommendations around how corner blocks

00:48:57.520 --> 00:48:59.976
are named. And in in short, it's

00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:01.496
essentially where the predominant point

00:49:01.520 --> 00:49:03.575
of access is for that building, which

00:49:03.599 --> 00:49:05.815
then specifies which street it's then

00:49:05.839 --> 00:49:07.896
allocated. So for corner buildings,

00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:09.656
really the point of determination is

00:49:09.680 --> 00:49:12.376
that point of access. In this case, what

00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:13.896
we're seeing is the point of access has

00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:16.920
changed.

00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:20.119
So, just to to clarify here that if the

00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:23.335
if the um access point is off Elbert

00:49:23.359 --> 00:49:25.496
Road, you're on Albert Road. If your

00:49:25.520 --> 00:49:27.416
access point is off Sinclair Road,

00:49:27.440 --> 00:49:28.616
you're on Sin Kilder Road.

00:49:28.640 --> 00:49:30.856
That's correct. Um and what we do have

00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:32.856
and in consultation with emergency

00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:34.936
services is it's really important to

00:49:34.960 --> 00:49:36.856
them that we have geog geographically

00:49:36.880 --> 00:49:39.176
correct um locations in that space

00:49:39.200 --> 00:49:40.616
because they don't rely on local

00:49:40.640 --> 00:49:43.575
knowledge. They rely on the um the geo

00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:44.776
information provided through the

00:49:44.800 --> 00:49:47.575
address.

00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:50.599
Councelor Jay, further questions.

00:49:50.720 --> 00:49:53.720
Um, James, I've had residents from the

00:49:54.240 --> 00:49:56.216
Hallmark tell me that they haven't had a

00:49:56.240 --> 00:49:57.896
problem getting ambulance there in the

00:49:57.920 --> 00:50:00.920
past for their partners or or themselves

00:50:01.040 --> 00:50:04.040
or neighbors. Um, yet in the report it's

00:50:04.319 --> 00:50:07.256
very clear that the emergency services

00:50:07.280 --> 00:50:10.280
um wants this. So, can you speak to

00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:16.216
how the emergency services

00:50:16.240 --> 00:50:18.376
um make these decisions? Maybe you

00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:20.616
can't.

00:50:20.640 --> 00:50:23.095
 what I can confirm councelor J and

00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.416
through you may um is that we have

00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:27.176
engaged emergency services throughout

00:50:27.200 --> 00:50:28.936
the duration of this process and it's

00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:30.456
been their recommendation for this

00:50:30.480 --> 00:50:33.416
change. Um whilst the report recognizes

00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:34.936
that there hasn't been an incident

00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:37.960
today. Um my office's view um is to

00:50:39.359 --> 00:50:40.776
potentially not wait for that incident

00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:43.800
to trigger this change.

00:50:45.680 --> 00:50:48.680
Councelor Buckingham,

00:50:50.079 --> 00:50:52.055
throughout the consultation process,

00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:54.696
were the neighboring buildings consulted

00:50:54.720 --> 00:50:56.535
at all and have we considered the impact

00:50:56.559 --> 00:50:58.535
of the renumbering

00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:01.016
on the neighboring

00:51:01.040 --> 00:51:03.095
 buildings?

00:51:03.119 --> 00:51:05.416
 through you, Mayor. I might ask my

00:51:05.440 --> 00:51:07.896
colleague Julie Snowden if she's

00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:10.920
available.

00:51:13.359 --> 00:51:15.335
No.

00:51:15.359 --> 00:51:17.176
So, just for those online, the answer is

00:51:17.200 --> 00:51:19.896
no. The um neighboring um residents

00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:21.335
weren't weren't engaged. My

00:51:21.359 --> 00:51:23.095
understanding is typically we would

00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:25.016
primarily engage the residents directly

00:51:25.040 --> 00:51:27.176
impacted as opposed to those um either

00:51:27.200 --> 00:51:30.200
side.

00:51:30.319 --> 00:51:33.319
Any further questions? Councelor Thomann.

00:51:33.839 --> 00:51:36.136
 I would It's not a question, but we

00:51:36.160 --> 00:51:39.160
just received an email from a resident

00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:41.815
 on the hallmark. She's in Japan. So I

00:51:41.839 --> 00:51:44.456
think it's she's following it online.

00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:45.815
It needs to be a question. Councelor

00:51:45.839 --> 00:51:47.815
Toan, could you frame part of that

00:51:47.839 --> 00:51:48.936
submission as a question?

00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:50.936
So yes, her concern is whether support

00:51:50.960 --> 00:51:52.535
will be provided for updating her

00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:54.216
address datas across Medicare, bank,

00:51:54.240 --> 00:51:56.456
superation funds and other relevant

00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:59.480
information as she  so is such

00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:01.416
assistance going to be providing

00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:04.440
provided to her as she is not able to do

00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:07.559
it on her own.

00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:09.976
And this is from Meg.

00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:11.575
Councelor Thomann. The question will be

00:52:11.599 --> 00:52:12.856
answered by James G.

00:52:12.880 --> 00:52:13.976
Me s

00:52:14.000 --> 00:52:15.416
 thanks for the question councelor and

00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:17.736
through um as noted previously where

00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:19.815
possible and where we can we'll update

00:52:19.839 --> 00:52:21.656
the relevant services in a holistic

00:52:21.680 --> 00:52:23.976
manner for all residents. So that's

00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:25.896
really those centralized services like

00:52:25.920 --> 00:52:27.736
the Google maps the Australian electoral

00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:30.216
commission Australia post fire rescue

00:52:30.240 --> 00:52:32.456
triple0 those type of services. In terms

00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:35.095
of residents own individual

00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:37.256
circumstance, we'll be providing a

00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:38.936
checklist of support to make it as

00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:40.856
intuitive and user friendly for them as

00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:43.416
possible as they navigate those changes

00:52:43.440 --> 00:52:45.815
as well as a grace period of 6 months um

00:52:45.839 --> 00:52:48.839
to support that change as well.

00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.456
Any further questions? Councelor Thomann.

00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:55.480
So I'm just wondering could um could we

00:52:56.000 --> 00:52:57.976
arrange for example for one morning for

00:52:58.000 --> 00:52:59.976
a council office to be there and meet

00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:01.256
the residents who are having

00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:03.736
difficulties to make changes for there

00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:05.736
to have sort of kind of a you know like

00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:08.760
a help session you know so you know if

00:53:09.839 --> 00:53:11.976
they need help can we provide that for

00:53:12.000 --> 00:53:13.416
them

00:53:13.440 --> 00:53:16.440
 through you may um my general sense

00:53:17.280 --> 00:53:19.016
is we'd be very open to provide an

00:53:19.040 --> 00:53:21.256
information session for residents where

00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:22.776
they'd have the opportunity to ask

00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:25.736
questions. In terms of offering bespoke

00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:27.176
supports for residents, we really need

00:53:27.200 --> 00:53:29.016
to be mindful around setting a precedent

00:53:29.040 --> 00:53:31.256
around the expectation

00:53:31.280 --> 00:53:34.055
expectations of officers in this space

00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:36.376
 around the relevant um support they

00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:37.736
provide residents and particularly

00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:39.815
around privacy considerations and

00:53:39.839 --> 00:53:41.256
provisions when you're starting to make

00:53:41.280 --> 00:53:44.280
applications on behalf of residents.

00:53:45.520 --> 00:53:47.976
Any further questions? councelor Timman

00:53:48.000 --> 00:53:49.896
my question was not for you know was

00:53:49.920 --> 00:53:52.376
just to help them maybe feel you know go

00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:53.736
on the computer and help things so

00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:55.016
are you going to frame it as a question

00:53:55.040 --> 00:53:56.456
I'm just saying is that something that

00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:58.295
can be done I'm not saying that we

00:53:58.319 --> 00:53:59.976
should do it on their behalf but can we

00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:03.000
help them do the report the the request

00:54:04.000 --> 00:54:05.575
the answer is the same isn't it

00:54:05.599 --> 00:54:08.376
yeah through you may I think I think the

00:54:08.400 --> 00:54:10.295
answer remains relatively consistent we

00:54:10.319 --> 00:54:12.216
can we can definitely attend and work

00:54:12.240 --> 00:54:13.815
with the body corporate to provide some

00:54:13.839 --> 00:54:15.815
supports for residents in terms of the

00:54:15.839 --> 00:54:17.575
individual bespoke spoke support. I

00:54:17.599 --> 00:54:19.176
think council would be limited in that

00:54:19.200 --> 00:54:21.176
capacity.

00:54:21.200 --> 00:54:24.200
Any further questions?

00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:29.095
All right. No further questions on that

00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:30.856
item in which case we do have a

00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:32.696
recommendation before us. Is the council

00:54:32.720 --> 00:54:35.335
that wishes to move that recommendation

00:54:35.359 --> 00:54:38.359
or something different? Councelor Jay,

00:54:38.880 --> 00:54:41.256
I I would rather go home and go to bed,

00:54:41.280 --> 00:54:43.976
but I have  an alternative

00:54:44.000 --> 00:54:45.976
recommendation.

00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:49.000
If we can bring that up on the screen

00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:55.079
and 

00:54:57.680 --> 00:54:59.416
in which case you'll be asked to read

00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:01.575
out the changes that you'd like for that

00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:03.095
recommendation. Councelor J.

00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:03.496
All right.

00:55:03.520 --> 00:55:05.016
Are the items in red?

00:55:05.040 --> 00:55:07.256
Look, we've tried to strengthen this

00:55:07.280 --> 00:55:10.280
motion. Um and I will read out

00:55:12.240 --> 00:55:13.736
3.3.

00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:15.575
Um can I just give a bit of background

00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:16.456
or just read it?

00:55:16.480 --> 00:55:18.376
 you're reading the item and then when

00:55:18.400 --> 00:55:20.376
you  are speaking if should you wish

00:55:20.400 --> 00:55:22.216
to move it then when you speak to it you

00:55:22.240 --> 00:55:25.016
can  provide the context. So 3.3 is

00:55:25.040 --> 00:55:27.256
request that the chief executive officer

00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:29.016
or their delegate write to the

00:55:29.040 --> 00:55:31.016
department of transport and planning

00:55:31.040 --> 00:55:33.095
seeking a review of the placement of

00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:35.256
existing directional road markings on

00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:37.815
St. Kilder Road and to explore

00:55:37.839 --> 00:55:40.295
opportunities to improve wayfinding and

00:55:40.319 --> 00:55:42.535
signage to support the proposed address

00:55:42.559 --> 00:55:44.535
changes.

00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:47.016
3.4 Four, requests that the chief

00:55:47.040 --> 00:55:49.335
executive officer or their delegate to

00:55:49.359 --> 00:55:51.575
engage with relevant ride share and

00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:54.535
mapping providers such as Uber and Dei

00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:57.559
to request updates to navigation systems

00:55:57.839 --> 00:56:00.216
and considerations of appropriate pickup

00:56:00.240 --> 00:56:02.856
and drop off locations aligned with the

00:56:02.880 --> 00:56:04.775
new address.

00:56:04.799 --> 00:56:07.799
3.5 requests council officers review and

00:56:09.040 --> 00:56:11.736
where appropriate implement improvements

00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:14.136
to signage and wayfinding on council

00:56:14.160 --> 00:56:16.856
managed land to support the proposed

00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:18.696
address changes and improve

00:56:18.720 --> 00:56:21.720
accessibility and navigation.

00:56:22.240 --> 00:56:24.936
Thank you. And do you wish to move that

00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:27.016
 recommendation before us? I do that

00:56:27.040 --> 00:56:28.376
resolution. Great.

00:56:28.400 --> 00:56:29.896
In which case is there a second?

00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:31.815
Seconded councelor Thomann. And now as

00:56:31.839 --> 00:56:33.496
mover councelor Jay, you can speak to

00:56:33.520 --> 00:56:36.520
the motion. you have 3 minutes.

00:56:36.720 --> 00:56:38.535
Um, this has been a really difficult

00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:41.256
motion for me because um, I really

00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:43.896
understand this area deeply. I

00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:46.136
understand the problems on Albert and

00:56:46.160 --> 00:56:48.295
with the um, the Ubers and the

00:56:48.319 --> 00:56:50.856
ambulances and the traffic.

00:56:50.880 --> 00:56:52.775
Unfortunately, I don't believe that an

00:56:52.799 --> 00:56:54.456
address change is going to fix that

00:56:54.480 --> 00:56:56.775
problem, which is why we've tried to put

00:56:56.799 --> 00:56:58.696
some more things in here to fix that

00:56:58.720 --> 00:57:00.696
problem. The truth is there's nowhere to

00:57:00.720 --> 00:57:03.720
stop on Stilder Road anymore. So, um,

00:57:04.400 --> 00:57:05.976
they're going to stop at the nearest

00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:08.136
safest, which unfortunately is in your

00:57:08.160 --> 00:57:10.456
driveway. We're hoping that we can

00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:12.216
change some of the geo markings and

00:57:12.240 --> 00:57:14.055
force some of these Uber drivers to go

00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:15.896
somewhere safer so they're not blocking

00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:18.535
off your driveway. So, that's where

00:57:18.559 --> 00:57:21.095
that's come from. Um, I have been

00:57:21.119 --> 00:57:24.119
speaking to a lot of visitors um, at the

00:57:24.160 --> 00:57:26.295
Hallmark, your painters, your tradies,

00:57:26.319 --> 00:57:28.136
and just trying to understand if they

00:57:28.160 --> 00:57:30.136
had trouble un trouble finding the

00:57:30.160 --> 00:57:32.376
place. Most of them didn't. What they

00:57:32.400 --> 00:57:34.136
had trouble with was that traffic light

00:57:34.160 --> 00:57:35.896
on Albert Road and the very short

00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:38.920
driveway and the very strange arrow that

00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:40.616
leads you straight into a private

00:57:40.640 --> 00:57:42.535
driveway as well as having the blue

00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:44.535
stone paving which makes it all look the

00:57:44.559 --> 00:57:47.559
same. It's a little bit of a S show up

00:57:48.319 --> 00:57:51.319
there at times. Um, if I was confident

00:57:51.599 --> 00:57:53.736
that this address change would solve all

00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:55.815
your problems, I'd be screaming and

00:57:55.839 --> 00:57:57.896
shouting and really happy. But I'm not

00:57:57.920 --> 00:57:59.815
confident that it's going to solve the

00:57:59.839 --> 00:58:01.815
problems on Albert. So, we will keep

00:58:01.839 --> 00:58:04.295
trying to solve the Albert Road problems

00:58:04.319 --> 00:58:07.319
and and the issues there. Um, I don't

00:58:09.040 --> 00:58:12.040
feel comfortable um um really changing

00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:14.535
the address on a lot of elderly

00:58:14.559 --> 00:58:15.815
residents that have been there for

00:58:15.839 --> 00:58:18.535
decades. I know that I've had a lot of

00:58:18.559 --> 00:58:21.016
um  older people call me and say that

00:58:21.040 --> 00:58:22.456
they've never had a problem with their

00:58:22.480 --> 00:58:24.055
husband or with their wife or in the

00:58:24.079 --> 00:58:26.616
ambulance. However, we sit in chambers

00:58:26.640 --> 00:58:29.016
here and we've debated this a long time.

00:58:29.040 --> 00:58:31.496
Um, I've deferred it numerous times and

00:58:31.520 --> 00:58:32.936
um, the councilors have been generous

00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:35.256
with letting me do that because I was

00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:36.936
really hoping that there was another way

00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:39.016
that would make everyone happy.

00:58:39.040 --> 00:58:41.256
Unfortunately, there is a sentiment in

00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:43.416
council and with the counselors that

00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:45.176
they don't want a death on their hands

00:58:45.200 --> 00:58:47.656
with the wrong address and they don't

00:58:47.680 --> 00:58:50.680
want to um, many of them don't even want

00:58:50.720 --> 00:58:53.720
to play with that. So, um, I have made

00:58:55.839 --> 00:58:58.456
these amendments hoping that this will

00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:00.456
make things stronger and we can get some

00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:02.295
of those arrows moved and we can get

00:59:02.319 --> 00:59:05.319
some signs put in. Um, and thank you

00:59:05.839 --> 00:59:08.839
councilors for supporting me in this

00:59:10.400 --> 00:59:11.815
tonight.

00:59:11.839 --> 00:59:14.376
Thank you, councelor Jay. And as the

00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:16.295
mover has spoken, so it's the second to

00:59:16.319 --> 00:59:18.376
wish to speak. Councelor Tamman.

00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:20.616
Well, obviously changing an address is

00:59:20.640 --> 00:59:23.640
always complicated. Um but if it makes

00:59:24.160 --> 00:59:27.160
 sense and hopefully the area safer, I

00:59:27.839 --> 00:59:30.456
think we should go with it. And I hope

00:59:30.480 --> 00:59:33.256
that  as we discussed that council

00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:35.416
will provide the support to residents

00:59:35.440 --> 00:59:38.440
who are struggling getting um online or

00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:40.136
on the internet and all those kind of

00:59:40.160 --> 00:59:43.095
things. So hopefully the honors cor um

00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:46.119
or with the help of council will help

00:59:46.480 --> 00:59:49.095
the residents who might struggle getting

00:59:49.119 --> 00:59:52.119
an update on on all the things they've

00:59:52.240 --> 00:59:55.095
got. Um I suppose we can only apologize

00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:57.575
for the inconvenience but there's not

00:59:57.599 --> 00:59:59.976
much choice. I think we have to do it

01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.696
and councelor Jay expressed well the

01:00:02.720 --> 01:00:05.656
issues around there. Hopefully what we

01:00:05.680 --> 01:00:08.680
have added will help ease the problems

01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:12.119
that you're facing.

01:00:12.400 --> 01:00:14.456
Thank you councelor Timman. The second

01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:16.055
has spoken. Does any other councelor

01:00:16.079 --> 01:00:18.856
wish to speak? Councelor Consol.

01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:20.535
Thank you. I am really sorry in advance

01:00:20.559 --> 01:00:22.055
for all the effort that people will have

01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:23.736
to go to to address this. But given that

01:00:23.760 --> 01:00:26.535
it was raised in 2024, it's probably

01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:27.896
been a bit of a limbo that people have

01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:29.335
been experiencing. Will it happen?

01:00:29.359 --> 01:00:31.815
Because clearly the driveway has changed

01:00:31.839 --> 01:00:34.696
um access points. So again, very sorry

01:00:34.720 --> 01:00:37.656
about the challenge that's ahead of you,

01:00:37.680 --> 01:00:40.680
but it gives you some um clarity about

01:00:41.599 --> 01:00:43.575
moving forward that the address has

01:00:43.599 --> 01:00:45.896
changed  location. And I'd like to

01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:47.896
thank councelor Jay for bringing the

01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:49.095
amendments. I think they're really good

01:00:49.119 --> 01:00:52.119
and strengthens this. Thank you.

01:00:53.520 --> 01:00:55.256
Thank you, councelor Consello. Any other

01:00:55.280 --> 01:00:58.280
councilors wish to speak to the item?

01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:02.535
No other counselors have indicated a

01:01:02.559 --> 01:01:04.216
desire to speak. So it comes back to the

01:01:04.240 --> 01:01:06.856
mover who wish may wish to close.

01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:08.616
I will close. Um

01:01:08.640 --> 01:01:09.496
two minutes.

01:01:09.520 --> 01:01:11.736
I'm not going to support this tonight.

01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:14.760
Um it will go ahead but but I just

01:01:15.839 --> 01:01:17.575
can't. It doesn't feel right. I didn't

01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:19.896
wake up this morning feeling great about

01:01:19.920 --> 01:01:22.616
it. And we have had some um emails and

01:01:22.640 --> 01:01:24.456
not even from residents. Some of our

01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:26.616
residents are beyond technology. So

01:01:26.640 --> 01:01:28.216
they're getting the concier and other

01:01:28.240 --> 01:01:30.856
people to message on their behalf. So

01:01:30.880 --> 01:01:32.376
which concerns me about how they're

01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:35.335
going to navigate this. Um I do

01:01:35.359 --> 01:01:37.656
understand why it is being changed and

01:01:37.680 --> 01:01:39.896
why it needs to  be changed. There's

01:01:39.920 --> 01:01:42.055
rules there. There's rules and this is

01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:43.896
 one of those things that has fallen

01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:46.920
within those rules. Um we cannot  we

01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:49.256
cannot offer you know help to the

01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:51.736
residents that that can't do it. But I

01:01:51.760 --> 01:01:54.136
will personally, Liz, email you and I'm

01:01:54.160 --> 01:01:56.295
happy to organize a day where I'll

01:01:56.319 --> 01:01:58.055
multiple days where I'm happy to sit

01:01:58.079 --> 01:01:59.335
there and help some of the residents

01:01:59.359 --> 01:02:01.176
that are older navigate all this if they

01:02:01.200 --> 01:02:03.575
want the help. And um I think that's the

01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:06.456
best that I can do today. So thank you,

01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:08.295
but I won't be supporting this for those

01:02:08.319 --> 01:02:11.319
reasons.

01:02:11.440 --> 01:02:13.575
 the mover has closed in which case

01:02:13.599 --> 01:02:16.216
we'll put the motion to a vote. All

01:02:16.240 --> 01:02:19.240
those in favor

01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:23.016
that is carried. Councelor Tamman,

01:02:23.040 --> 01:02:25.896
councelor Buckingham, Councelor

01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:27.736
Crawford, councelor Consello, councelor

01:02:27.760 --> 01:02:30.696
Halliday, myself, councelor Mak,

01:02:30.720 --> 01:02:32.856
councel me.

01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:34.616
No, I'm not seeing his hand. In which

01:02:34.640 --> 01:02:37.575
case, all those against

01:02:37.599 --> 01:02:39.896
that is against councelor Jay, councelor

01:02:39.920 --> 01:02:42.920
Hardy, and deputy Mayor M.

01:02:44.880 --> 01:02:46.775
Yep.  we need to physically see your

01:02:46.799 --> 01:02:49.656
hand too, deputy Mayor.

01:02:49.680 --> 01:02:51.496
There it is. We can definitely see it

01:02:51.520 --> 01:02:54.520
now.  so that is carried. 63

01:03:00.720 --> 01:03:03.720
takes us to item 8.1, the Royal

01:03:04.319 --> 01:03:07.319
Commission on Anti-semitism and Social

01:03:07.440 --> 01:03:10.055
Cohesion submission.

01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:13.079
Do we have any questions for officers

01:03:13.440 --> 01:03:16.440
for this item being item 8.1?

01:03:20.079 --> 01:03:23.079
No questions for officers on item 8.1.

01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:27.079
Thank you.

01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:32.936
Which case there are no questions

01:03:32.960 --> 01:03:35.095
indicated for item 8.1. I'm going to

01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:37.656
move this from the floor. Move May. Can

01:03:37.680 --> 01:03:39.976
we have a second her please? seconded.

01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:42.456
Councelor Buckingham.

01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:45.480
 the mover will now speak with

01:03:50.960 --> 01:03:53.496
our community is still  feeling the

01:03:53.520 --> 01:03:56.055
pain from not just Bondi but a whole

01:03:56.079 --> 01:03:59.079
series of anti-semitic

01:03:59.200 --> 01:04:01.176
attacks that have been born about on

01:04:01.200 --> 01:04:03.176
many parts of our community that have

01:04:03.200 --> 01:04:05.015
also had ripple effects on our wider

01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:07.896
community as as well.

01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:10.055
Our submission to the Royal Commission

01:04:10.079 --> 01:04:12.456
on Anti-semitism and Social Cohesion

01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:14.696
really looks at how local government can

01:04:14.720 --> 01:04:16.775
play its part in creating a greater

01:04:16.799 --> 01:04:19.575
sense of belonging and strengthening

01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:22.599
social cohesion and community inclusion.

01:04:22.640 --> 01:04:24.616
And there's a range of initiatives that

01:04:24.640 --> 01:04:26.775
council has rightfully highlighted as

01:04:26.799 --> 01:04:28.696
part of that alignment with the

01:04:28.720 --> 01:04:31.575
Victorian value statement.  the work

01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:33.976
that we did around the joint statement

01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:37.000
 involving 85% of councils and the

01:04:38.079 --> 01:04:39.575
work that we've done in collaboration

01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:41.815
with the city of Glenara as well and

01:04:41.839 --> 01:04:44.839
other councils in really working in

01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:47.416
strengthening and understanding our

01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:50.440
community. So I do want to commend the

01:04:50.720 --> 01:04:53.015
officers  for your work on this

01:04:53.039 --> 01:04:55.496
submission and also for the work that

01:04:55.520 --> 01:04:58.055
has been on on an ongoing basis with our

01:04:58.079 --> 01:05:00.216
neighboring councils, city of Glenire in

01:05:00.240 --> 01:05:02.696
particular, but also more broadly in

01:05:02.720 --> 01:05:05.095
fostering social inclusion and the work

01:05:05.119 --> 01:05:07.976
that we we undertake.

01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:10.616
This is not an easy topic. It is not an

01:05:10.640 --> 01:05:12.775
easy topic for people that live through

01:05:12.799 --> 01:05:15.256
this. is not an easy topic for much of

01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:18.136
our wider community as well in feeling

01:05:18.160 --> 01:05:21.160
 the reverberation of of the impact of

01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:24.760
Bondi of other attacks as well.

01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:27.496
And you know, I remember

01:05:27.520 --> 01:05:30.520
Saturday evening a few about a month ago

01:05:31.119 --> 01:05:34.055
where there was a targeted attack on the

01:05:34.079 --> 01:05:36.616
Adas community and the following day the

01:05:36.640 --> 01:05:39.256
Adas community came out and really

01:05:39.280 --> 01:05:41.976
highlighted the Torah procession and a

01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.136
celebration of that community. Our

01:05:44.160 --> 01:05:46.295
community has been through so much

01:05:46.319 --> 01:05:49.176
through anti-semitism, through a

01:05:49.200 --> 01:05:51.335
breakdown in social cohesion. This is

01:05:51.359 --> 01:05:53.736
our response to the submission. It is

01:05:53.760 --> 01:05:56.760
our response to say

01:05:56.960 --> 01:05:59.015
government needs to do better across the

01:05:59.039 --> 01:06:01.256
board. It is our submission to say we

01:06:01.280 --> 01:06:04.280
also have a role to play in reaching

01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:07.880
engaging local communities as well. And

01:06:09.039 --> 01:06:11.416
once again I really come back to my

01:06:11.440 --> 01:06:13.015
grandfather's sort of closing comments

01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:15.496
in his show of testimony where he just

01:06:15.520 --> 01:06:17.656
simply said we all need to be more

01:06:17.680 --> 01:06:20.136
human. And this is ultimately what we're

01:06:20.160 --> 01:06:22.376
asking for through this submission. How

01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:24.856
do we be more human? How do we treat

01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:27.015
each other with the respect and dignity

01:06:27.039 --> 01:06:29.575
that they deserve? I commend this

01:06:29.599 --> 01:06:31.815
submission and the collaboration that's

01:06:31.839 --> 01:06:34.136
also been undertaken as part of it as

01:06:34.160 --> 01:06:37.160
well in working once again particularly

01:06:37.280 --> 01:06:40.136
with the city Glenara in consistency and

01:06:40.160 --> 01:06:43.015
cohesiveness of our responses so that we

01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:45.015
can show that local government can play

01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:47.896
its part in fostering inclusion. I

01:06:47.920 --> 01:06:50.920
commend this motion and 

01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:52.936
move to the second who may wish to

01:06:52.960 --> 01:06:55.095
speak.

01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:58.119
Thank you, Mayor Min.  and thank you

01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:00.376
to the officers that have put in a huge

01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:01.896
amount of work in preparing this

01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:04.616
submission um and capturing the

01:07:04.640 --> 01:07:06.456
experiences of the Jewish community in

01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:08.055
the city of Port Phillip over the last

01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:11.079
couple of years. The submission does go

01:07:11.200 --> 01:07:13.496
to the lived experience of the increase

01:07:13.520 --> 01:07:16.520
in anti-semitism that has occurred in

01:07:16.559 --> 01:07:19.256
our area. Um, one thing that I like

01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:21.416
about the submission is it also um

01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:23.496
illustrates the diversity of our Jewish

01:07:23.520 --> 01:07:26.520
community and the vibrancy um of the

01:07:26.640 --> 01:07:29.640
community here in Port Phillip. Um we

01:07:30.240 --> 01:07:33.240
all are aware of certain incidents that

01:07:34.319 --> 01:07:36.616
do make the news such as the  fire

01:07:36.640 --> 01:07:39.496
bombing of the Adas Israel  synagogue

01:07:39.520 --> 01:07:42.520
in Ripen Lee. Um but one of the things

01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:44.616
that has come through the the submission

01:07:44.640 --> 01:07:46.456
is that there are daily acts of

01:07:46.480 --> 01:07:48.295
anti-semitism that don't make the news

01:07:48.319 --> 01:07:50.456
but have a deep and lasting impact on

01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:52.856
the lives of  the Jewish community

01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:55.880
here in Port Phillip. and it outlines

01:07:56.240 --> 01:07:58.295
the role of local government in

01:07:58.319 --> 01:08:01.256
combating anti-semitism.  I believe

01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:03.015
all levels of government have a role to

01:08:03.039 --> 01:08:06.039
play and it both um in response to when

01:08:07.520 --> 01:08:09.736
there is anti-semitism and I I do want

01:08:09.760 --> 01:08:11.575
to talk to a particular example because

01:08:11.599 --> 01:08:14.599
I think it it shows the power of local

01:08:15.039 --> 01:08:17.976
government. After the Aduz Israel Shul

01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:20.376
was firebombed, Port Philip appointed a

01:08:20.400 --> 01:08:23.400
culturally um  trained officer to be a

01:08:25.679 --> 01:08:27.096
single point of contact for the

01:08:27.120 --> 01:08:29.096
community. And that person went and

01:08:29.120 --> 01:08:31.016
literally had cups of tea with some of

01:08:31.040 --> 01:08:33.175
the women in that community and sat down

01:08:33.199 --> 01:08:35.735
and spent the time to really understand

01:08:35.759 --> 01:08:37.496
the community's needs at a very

01:08:37.520 --> 01:08:39.576
difficult time and overcome some really

01:08:39.600 --> 01:08:42.600
practical hurdles. Um, for example, they

01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:46.056
needed temporary places to to worship

01:08:46.080 --> 01:08:48.376
and live and um celebrate their

01:08:48.400 --> 01:08:51.400
religion. And the council officer um

01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:54.775
helped in rapid time to create

01:08:54.799 --> 01:08:56.295
disability access to one of the

01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:59.175
temporary shs. It might seem like a

01:08:59.199 --> 01:09:00.936
small detail, but it was the difference

01:09:00.960 --> 01:09:03.655
between people being able to go to Shaw

01:09:03.679 --> 01:09:06.679
or not be able to go to Shaw. Um, and I

01:09:06.960 --> 01:09:08.536
think that's the kind of role that only

01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:10.295
local government can really play in

01:09:10.319 --> 01:09:13.175
response to after these incidents occur.

01:09:13.199 --> 01:09:15.815
But it also goes to prevention and the

01:09:15.839 --> 01:09:18.839
role that we have in building connection

01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:21.960
um building understanding across faiths.

01:09:22.239 --> 01:09:25.239
 combating conflict um different

01:09:25.359 --> 01:09:28.056
interpretations of words

01:09:28.080 --> 01:09:29.896
um that we have may have heard here

01:09:29.920 --> 01:09:32.920
tonight. Um and keeping the lines of

01:09:33.839 --> 01:09:36.839
communication open and live and keeping

01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:38.616
us connected with our neighbors and with

01:09:38.640 --> 01:09:41.640
each other across conflict. um which I

01:09:42.080 --> 01:09:43.896
believe is ultimately the prevention.

01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:45.496
That's where we actually get prevention

01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:48.520
of hatred and violence. So I am very

01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:52.199
pleased to second this um this report

01:09:53.120 --> 01:09:54.456
today and I'm very proud of Port

01:09:54.480 --> 01:09:56.056
Phillips submission to the Royal

01:09:56.080 --> 01:09:57.175
Commission.

01:09:57.199 --> 01:09:58.695
Thank you Councelor Buckingham. Well

01:09:58.719 --> 01:10:01.719
said. Any other speakers to this item?

01:10:03.760 --> 01:10:05.896
Councelor Crawford. Thank you. I'm just

01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:07.256
going to ask under our rules. Would you

01:10:07.280 --> 01:10:08.936
allow me an extra 30 seconds if I don't

01:10:08.960 --> 01:10:11.016
quite get to the end of my three minutes

01:10:11.040 --> 01:10:13.096
because I I've written something if it's

01:10:13.120 --> 01:10:13.976
all right.

01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:16.695
Um, so we live in an area shaped by many

01:10:16.719 --> 01:10:18.456
different groups, but none so much as

01:10:18.480 --> 01:10:20.856
the Jewish community, and I am so proud

01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:23.016
to represent such an area. We have

01:10:23.040 --> 01:10:25.576
benefited greatly. What is incredibly

01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:27.256
distressing is to have to have borne

01:10:27.280 --> 01:10:30.280
witness to the rise in anti-semitism

01:10:30.480 --> 01:10:32.376
over the last few years, the suffering

01:10:32.400 --> 01:10:34.776
of our local Jewish community and the

01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:36.536
terrorist attack by an Islamic

01:10:36.560 --> 01:10:38.056
revolutionary guard on a local

01:10:38.080 --> 01:10:41.080
synagogue. It is so important for this

01:10:41.120 --> 01:10:43.576
council to make a submission  to

01:10:43.600 --> 01:10:46.600
document what we have witnessed and what

01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:48.936
how we as a council have responded and

01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:51.175
how we will continue to respond and look

01:10:51.199 --> 01:10:53.655
for more opportunities to stamp out 

01:10:53.679 --> 01:10:55.655
anti-semitism.

01:10:55.679 --> 01:10:57.896
I want our Jewish members of this

01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:00.056
community to feel safe and I want all of

01:11:00.080 --> 01:11:02.456
our community to feel safe. And in order

01:11:02.480 --> 01:11:04.616
to do that, we must call it out. We must

01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:06.296
condemn it and we must look for ways to

01:11:06.320 --> 01:11:08.695
stop it and ways to stand next to our

01:11:08.719 --> 01:11:11.719
Jewish um neighbors. We as a council

01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:13.256
don't have all the answers, but we

01:11:13.280 --> 01:11:15.416
continue to work towards stamping it out

01:11:15.440 --> 01:11:17.976
and looking to do more. A few things

01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:20.296
have struck me over the last few years.

01:11:20.320 --> 01:11:22.856
It is how some people dismiss the

01:11:22.880 --> 01:11:24.856
Jewishes pe Jewish people's experience

01:11:24.880 --> 01:11:27.336
of racism in a way we would not of other

01:11:27.360 --> 01:11:29.336
groups. We dismiss some of their

01:11:29.360 --> 01:11:31.896
experiences. We try to um make them

01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:34.376
smaller. We dismiss that terms and names

01:11:34.400 --> 01:11:37.400
they find offensive are not um in ways

01:11:37.440 --> 01:11:39.576
that we would not for other groups. We

01:11:39.600 --> 01:11:41.496
would tread more carefully with our

01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:42.936
words, with our rhetoric and our

01:11:42.960 --> 01:11:44.616
actions.

01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:47.175
I also note how important it is to not

01:11:47.199 --> 01:11:49.496
hold Australians of any heritage

01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:51.256
collectively responsible for the actions

01:11:51.280 --> 01:11:53.896
of another government and how we must be

01:11:53.920 --> 01:11:56.920
careful as a society not to do so. And

01:11:57.040 --> 01:11:59.576
we need to invest in accurate, nuanced

01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:02.456
discussion, not hate.

01:12:02.480 --> 01:12:04.296
When I attended the conference that was

01:12:04.320 --> 01:12:05.816
held for local government around

01:12:05.840 --> 01:12:08.376
anti-semitism and what we could do, the

01:12:08.400 --> 01:12:10.456
constant theme that although we were

01:12:10.480 --> 01:12:13.096
there discussing anti-semitism in this

01:12:13.120 --> 01:12:15.256
particular instance, it was the canary

01:12:15.280 --> 01:12:18.280
in the coal mine for social cohesion for

01:12:18.320 --> 01:12:20.296
u mutual respect and our humanity for

01:12:20.320 --> 01:12:22.776
each other. So the more we can ensure

01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:24.695
our Jewish community are safe and

01:12:24.719 --> 01:12:26.776
respected and cared for, the more that

01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:28.456
we can ensure that we are living in the

01:12:28.480 --> 01:12:31.175
type of society we want to. One of

01:12:31.199 --> 01:12:32.856
respect, one of compassion, one of

01:12:32.880 --> 01:12:35.336
empathy, and one of safety.

01:12:35.360 --> 01:12:37.576
I wish we were not having to make such a

01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:39.976
submission on this topic. It makes me

01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:42.695
incredibly sad, angry, and desparing all

01:12:42.719 --> 01:12:45.256
at once. But I am of the firm belief

01:12:45.280 --> 01:12:47.496
that in local government we must take

01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:49.175
this moment to support the Jewish

01:12:49.199 --> 01:12:51.096
members of the city of Port Phillip and

01:12:51.120 --> 01:12:53.576
across Australia. And I hope councilors

01:12:53.600 --> 01:12:55.496
you will support the motion.

01:12:55.520 --> 01:12:57.336
Thank you councelor Crawford. You had 10

01:12:57.360 --> 01:12:58.376
seconds spare.

01:12:58.400 --> 01:13:00.376
Oh good.

01:13:00.400 --> 01:13:02.296
And just to acknowledge your leadership

01:13:02.320 --> 01:13:04.135
 during your tenure of Mayor as around

01:13:04.159 --> 01:13:07.159
the US Israel synagogue too.

01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:10.920
Any other speakers to this item?

01:13:12.640 --> 01:13:15.640
Councelor Jay, three

01:13:16.880 --> 01:13:18.776
three

01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:21.800
hard to top any of those

01:13:22.480 --> 01:13:24.856
talks. Um,

01:13:24.880 --> 01:13:27.880
righteous amongst the nations. That's

01:13:28.159 --> 01:13:31.159
the title that was awarded to non-Jews

01:13:32.000 --> 01:13:33.655
that helped the Jews through the

01:13:33.679 --> 01:13:35.256
Holocaust.

01:13:35.280 --> 01:13:38.280
Righteous amongst among the nations.

01:13:38.719 --> 01:13:41.175
very proud to be sitting in a room and

01:13:41.199 --> 01:13:44.199
in a community with a lot of people that

01:13:45.040 --> 01:13:47.736
are righteous amongst the nations and um

01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:49.816
really

01:13:49.840 --> 01:13:52.616
stick up and support their community

01:13:52.640 --> 01:13:54.536
when they don't have voice or where

01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:57.416
they're too terrorized to use it. We

01:13:57.440 --> 01:13:59.816
have a very large Jewish contingency in

01:13:59.840 --> 01:14:02.840
Port Phillip  and Glenn Ira the

01:14:02.880 --> 01:14:05.096
biggest one of the biggest in the world.

01:14:05.120 --> 01:14:07.416
 before I was a counselor, I was a rag

01:14:07.440 --> 01:14:09.655
trader in the fashion industry. The rag

01:14:09.679 --> 01:14:12.376
trade is called the schmata trade. It is

01:14:12.400 --> 01:14:14.215
our Jewish community that brought the

01:14:14.239 --> 01:14:16.135
fashion industry to Australia many,

01:14:16.159 --> 01:14:18.856
many, many decades ago. So they have had

01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:21.880
an unbelievable impact on culture, on

01:14:22.080 --> 01:14:24.616
fashion, and on our community. So I am

01:14:24.640 --> 01:14:27.640
proud to um support our community um

01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:29.816
with this submission. And I just want to

01:14:29.840 --> 01:14:32.135
let anyone listening know that you can

01:14:32.159 --> 01:14:33.896
also make your own submission. It's open

01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:35.655
for a little bit longer. So if people

01:14:35.679 --> 01:14:37.096
wanted to make their own submission,

01:14:37.120 --> 01:14:39.976
they can do that online. So thank you.

01:14:40.000 --> 01:14:41.736
Thank you, councelor Jay. Any other

01:14:41.760 --> 01:14:44.760
councilors wish to speak to the item?

01:14:48.719 --> 01:14:50.376
I'm not getting a sense there's any

01:14:50.400 --> 01:14:53.400
other speakers in which case I'll move

01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:56.840
to myself as a mover to close.

01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:01.896
Once again commending the work that went

01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:04.376
into our response to the royal

01:15:04.400 --> 01:15:06.456
commission and also the work that we've

01:15:06.480 --> 01:15:08.936
undertaken both as a councelor group and

01:15:08.960 --> 01:15:10.776
 we highlighted councelor Crawford

01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:13.175
your leadership as Mayor during the US

01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:15.096
Israel synagogue councelor Buckingham

01:15:15.120 --> 01:15:17.175
your work within the community and each

01:15:17.199 --> 01:15:19.336
of us in the work that we undertake in

01:15:19.360 --> 01:15:21.976
our communities

01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:23.976
in

01:15:24.000 --> 01:15:26.135
working with our communities in the pain

01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:28.536
in the anguish and also how we can come

01:15:28.560 --> 01:15:30.936
together as a collective community as

01:15:30.960 --> 01:15:33.960
well. And when we look at the response,

01:15:34.480 --> 01:15:36.695
yes, we're responding to rising cases of

01:15:36.719 --> 01:15:38.616
anti-semitism which have been well

01:15:38.640 --> 01:15:41.640
documented as an increase, but also with

01:15:42.400 --> 01:15:45.096
that focus on social inclusion and

01:15:45.120 --> 01:15:46.616
cohesion.

01:15:46.640 --> 01:15:48.616
We need to come together as one

01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:51.256
community with many parts of within that

01:15:51.280 --> 01:15:52.695
community with many parts of that

01:15:52.719 --> 01:15:54.536
diversity

01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:57.016
because all of us are worthy of respect

01:15:57.040 --> 01:15:59.576
of dignity in how we worship how we live

01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:02.135
our lives and who we are and that is

01:16:02.159 --> 01:16:04.856
what our submission puts forward.

01:16:04.880 --> 01:16:06.536
I know we'll be I assume we'll be

01:16:06.560 --> 01:16:08.296
speaking as part of our delegates report

01:16:08.320 --> 01:16:10.135
around the MOV motion later on this

01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:11.655
evening but do want to commend also

01:16:11.679 --> 01:16:13.256
councelor Buckingham your work on that

01:16:13.280 --> 01:16:16.280
motion and also when we head to Elga in

01:16:17.040 --> 01:16:19.096
motion supporting social cohesion as

01:16:19.120 --> 01:16:21.976
well. We are one community with many

01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:23.896
people who all deserve dignity and

01:16:23.920 --> 01:16:26.296
respect and this is what this submission

01:16:26.320 --> 01:16:28.856
puts forward and to reinforce that local

01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:30.936
government has a big part to play in our

01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:33.416
community. We are the closest form of

01:16:33.440 --> 01:16:35.816
government to our community. We know our

01:16:35.840 --> 01:16:37.175
communities. We understand our

01:16:37.199 --> 01:16:38.936
communities and we can work with our

01:16:38.960 --> 01:16:41.960
communities to ensure an inclusive

01:16:42.080 --> 01:16:43.816
society.

01:16:43.840 --> 01:16:46.840
I commend the motion. Thank you.

01:16:47.840 --> 01:16:50.616
 that motion's now been put to a vote.

01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:53.256
All those in favor

01:16:53.280 --> 01:16:56.280
that is carried unanimously.

01:16:57.040 --> 01:17:00.040
Thank you. Thank you.

01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:05.000
And that takes us now to item 8.2,

01:17:06.719 --> 01:17:08.536
the Sanca Police and Community Youth

01:17:08.560 --> 01:17:11.560
Club. Any questions for officers?

01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:18.199
Yes. Councelor Halliday.

01:17:23.520 --> 01:17:25.576
Are there any questions for officers for

01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:28.600
item 8.2?

01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:32.695
in. Yes, councelor Halliday, now it's

01:17:32.719 --> 01:17:33.175
your turn.

01:17:33.199 --> 01:17:35.496
 apologies.  thank you, Mayor. Um,

01:17:35.520 --> 01:17:36.616
I'm just wondering, you know, there are

01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:38.056
two elements to this. One is the

01:17:38.080 --> 01:17:41.080
immediate um recognition and um funding

01:17:41.520 --> 01:17:44.520
of the $22,000 to get um PCYC up and

01:17:45.199 --> 01:17:47.256
running. The other is the consideration

01:17:47.280 --> 01:17:50.135
in through the budget for an additional

01:17:50.159 --> 01:17:53.096
$60,000. I'm wondering what um funding

01:17:53.120 --> 01:17:55.655
sources we might have in the budget for

01:17:55.679 --> 01:17:58.679
that $60,000.

01:17:59.840 --> 01:18:02.840
response will be provided by the CEO or

01:18:03.440 --> 01:18:04.856
Yep.

01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:07.576
 through you, Mayor, we're looking at

01:18:07.600 --> 01:18:09.175
that at the moment when we're bringing

01:18:09.199 --> 01:18:10.936
through the final budget figures. We're

01:18:10.960 --> 01:18:12.215
looking at all the requests that have

01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:14.215
come through from the community where

01:18:14.239 --> 01:18:16.056
we're currently sitting with a forecast

01:18:16.080 --> 01:18:18.936
surplus, but also  in particular in

01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:20.856
relation to individual items if there's

01:18:20.880 --> 01:18:23.256
an a funding source um from existing

01:18:23.280 --> 01:18:24.936
programs. Now, there are some programs

01:18:24.960 --> 01:18:27.256
that you have available next year that

01:18:27.280 --> 01:18:29.336
you may wish to prioritize, but we'll

01:18:29.360 --> 01:18:30.856
come through with options as part of the

01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:33.880
budget process um on potential ways to

01:18:34.080 --> 01:18:36.536
fund this request.

01:18:36.560 --> 01:18:39.096
And and just to clarify that that would

01:18:39.120 --> 01:18:40.856
be resolved obviously the budget we're

01:18:40.880 --> 01:18:42.856
going to adopt that um later this month,

01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:44.936
right? So, we'd be see that in the next

01:18:44.960 --> 01:18:47.016
three or four weeks by the looks of it.

01:18:47.040 --> 01:18:48.616
That's right. At the I can't remember

01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:50.536
the exact date, but at the end of June,

01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:51.416
end of the month.

01:18:51.440 --> 01:18:54.440
29th of June.

01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:57.560
Sorry, Council Buckingham. A question.

01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:00.456
I know that the officer's recommendation

01:19:00.480 --> 01:19:03.480
is um

01:19:03.520 --> 01:19:05.816
to provide some immediate financial

01:19:05.840 --> 01:19:08.840
support, but also to um support PCYC

01:19:09.600 --> 01:19:12.296
through our advocacy efforts.

01:19:12.320 --> 01:19:14.856
What other forms of support could the

01:19:14.880 --> 01:19:17.880
council potentially provide to PCYC?

01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:20.376
I'm particularly thinking around

01:19:20.400 --> 01:19:22.215
promotion.

01:19:22.239 --> 01:19:25.239
um and communications because key to

01:19:25.440 --> 01:19:27.016
their success will be rebuilding their

01:19:27.040 --> 01:19:29.256
membership base

01:19:29.280 --> 01:19:31.096
through through you Mayor. Thank you for

01:19:31.120 --> 01:19:33.976
the question counselor. Um we will

01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:36.856
certainly explore with PCYC

01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:39.016
 what what needs and requirements they

01:19:39.040 --> 01:19:41.336
might have and what might be possible

01:19:41.360 --> 01:19:44.360
within existing council resources that

01:19:44.960 --> 01:19:47.336
might include things  like

01:19:47.360 --> 01:19:49.976
communication. But we we'd need to

01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:52.456
firstly have a conversation with PCYC

01:19:52.480 --> 01:19:55.480
around what help might be  of of need

01:19:55.600 --> 01:19:58.600
for them and then also  work out how

01:19:58.719 --> 01:20:00.695
um we could do that within existing

01:20:00.719 --> 01:20:03.719
resources.

01:20:03.920 --> 01:20:06.920
Any further questions for officers

01:20:10.239 --> 01:20:13.239
in would Oh, sorry. Deputy Mayor Mes

01:20:14.560 --> 01:20:17.175
over to you.

01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:19.576
Thank you, Mayor M. Just a clarification

01:20:19.600 --> 01:20:21.816
on 3.1.1

01:20:21.840 --> 01:20:24.215
where it refers to a pathway to resuming

01:20:24.239 --> 01:20:27.239
community gym operations and membership.

01:20:28.080 --> 01:20:29.736
Um

01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:32.760
I'm not I'm not su

01:20:33.280 --> 01:20:36.280
any um amendments at this point but

01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:39.560
would that not be a membership um to

01:20:40.239 --> 01:20:43.239
support the ongoing operation of the of

01:20:43.280 --> 01:20:46.280
the gym as opposed to having some

01:20:46.320 --> 01:20:49.320
members? Um, isn't the intention here

01:20:50.080 --> 01:20:53.080
with this support to enable PCYC to get

01:20:54.159 --> 01:20:55.655
back

01:20:55.679 --> 01:20:58.679
into a membership level sufficient to

01:20:59.679 --> 01:21:02.679
support the operation of the business

01:21:04.960 --> 01:21:07.960
through through you may  certainly the

01:21:09.199 --> 01:21:11.896
um proposal that's been put forward by

01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:14.920
PCYC is some short-term support  to

01:21:15.360 --> 01:21:17.496
help them in reopening the community

01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:20.520
gym.  the intent of 3.1.1

01:21:21.440 --> 01:21:24.440
is  about making any grant council

01:21:24.719 --> 01:21:27.719
provides conditional on PCYC providing

01:21:28.400 --> 01:21:30.936
council with a satisfactory reopening

01:21:30.960 --> 01:21:33.960
plan um around the community gym given

01:21:34.159 --> 01:21:37.159
that it is um as we understand it a a

01:21:37.520 --> 01:21:39.416
core part of their financial

01:21:39.440 --> 01:21:42.440
sustainability plan. So  yes, you're

01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:45.655
right. It is about community it is about

01:21:45.679 --> 01:21:47.816
resuming the community gym 

01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:50.840
operations. Um and then also the

01:21:50.960 --> 01:21:53.960
associated membership um that  the new

01:21:54.960 --> 01:21:57.416
board indicate is central to their

01:21:57.440 --> 01:22:00.440
financial sustainability plan.

01:22:01.920 --> 01:22:03.896
Any further questions? Deputy Mayor me

01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:06.920
is your hand still up?

01:22:07.199 --> 01:22:10.199
Yes. I just wanted to clarify further.

01:22:10.239 --> 01:22:13.239
 Mayor Mak um

01:22:14.080 --> 01:22:16.215
clarify in the sense that I understand

01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:19.239
from what the intention of the  words

01:22:19.840 --> 01:22:21.336
are

01:22:21.360 --> 01:22:24.360
um will the board be advised of this

01:22:25.120 --> 01:22:28.056
requirement to the extent that Kylie has

01:22:28.080 --> 01:22:30.776
just explained  that you know it is it

01:22:30.800 --> 01:22:33.800
is it is not just ticking something they

01:22:33.840 --> 01:22:36.376
have to provide certain information are

01:22:36.400 --> 01:22:38.135
they aware of that information that's

01:22:38.159 --> 01:22:39.816
required

01:22:39.840 --> 01:22:42.215
through you, Mayor. I might start  the

01:22:42.239 --> 01:22:44.135
answer and then I'll refer to my

01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:46.536
colleagues. Um certainly if council was

01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:49.560
to pass this motion or another form of

01:22:49.840 --> 01:22:52.840
motion, um the conditions would form

01:22:53.280 --> 01:22:54.936
part of the funding agreement that

01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:57.960
council would enter into  with PCYC.

01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:02.600
 in terms of  whether PCYC are aware

01:23:03.280 --> 01:23:06.280
of these conditions um that this report

01:23:06.480 --> 01:23:08.695
is certainly a public report but I'll

01:23:08.719 --> 01:23:10.615
ask my colleagues to confirm whether

01:23:10.639 --> 01:23:13.175
they've had conversation with with the

01:23:13.199 --> 01:23:15.976
board

01:23:16.000 --> 01:23:18.296
 through you may have had some high

01:23:18.320 --> 01:23:20.056
level conversations but we haven't been

01:23:20.080 --> 01:23:22.615
very specific about what KPIs will be in

01:23:22.639 --> 01:23:24.376
the funding agreement that would be a

01:23:24.400 --> 01:23:27.400
conversation we would have tomorrow.

01:23:29.679 --> 01:23:32.679
Any further questions for officers?

01:23:34.719 --> 01:23:36.296
In which case there's a recommendation

01:23:36.320 --> 01:23:39.320
before us. Do we have a mover moved?

01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:42.456
Councelor Buckingham seconded. Councelor

01:23:42.480 --> 01:23:44.615
Halliday. Does the mover wish to

01:23:44.639 --> 01:23:46.695
speak?

01:23:46.719 --> 01:23:49.496
Yes. I'm very keen to speak about PCYC

01:23:49.520 --> 01:23:51.816
and I'd like to start by thanking all

01:23:51.840 --> 01:23:54.215
the members of the community that have

01:23:54.239 --> 01:23:57.239
emailed me and other counselors um in

01:23:57.840 --> 01:23:59.976
recent times about the importance of the

01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:03.000
PCYC. We've heard um from young, old,

01:24:05.360 --> 01:24:08.360
wealthy, less wealthy  locals, people

01:24:09.040 --> 01:24:11.256
from close by, people from further a

01:24:11.280 --> 01:24:14.280
field um about the impact that PCYC has

01:24:15.120 --> 01:24:17.496
had on their on their lives. And what

01:24:17.520 --> 01:24:19.096
has struck me about all the different

01:24:19.120 --> 01:24:20.776
accounts that I've heard is that it

01:24:20.800 --> 01:24:23.655
really is a melting pot where people

01:24:23.679 --> 01:24:25.655
from all different backgrounds spend

01:24:25.679 --> 01:24:28.679
time together. And

01:24:28.880 --> 01:24:31.880
simply sharing a facility like a gym

01:24:32.080 --> 01:24:34.776
leads to so many community connections.

01:24:34.800 --> 01:24:37.800
It combats loneliness, isolation. for a

01:24:37.840 --> 01:24:40.376
young person that doesn't have a safe

01:24:40.400 --> 01:24:43.400
home or um access to other clubs and and

01:24:44.800 --> 01:24:47.175
recreation spaces, it becomes like a

01:24:47.199 --> 01:24:50.199
second home for them. And the club has

01:24:50.880 --> 01:24:53.816
had um some real challenges in recent

01:24:53.840 --> 01:24:56.135
times, but the community has rallied,

01:24:56.159 --> 01:24:58.856
reconstituted their board, um got a new

01:24:58.880 --> 01:25:01.175
plan for financial sustainability and

01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:04.199
ongoing um operations, and from the

01:25:06.159 --> 01:25:08.135
membership of the gym, their youth

01:25:08.159 --> 01:25:10.376
programs are subsidized and they can

01:25:10.400 --> 01:25:12.456
continue running these incredibly

01:25:12.480 --> 01:25:15.096
valuable um services for our local

01:25:15.120 --> 01:25:17.256
community. And this is an example of

01:25:17.280 --> 01:25:19.096
where

01:25:19.120 --> 01:25:21.096
local council needs to be one of the

01:25:21.120 --> 01:25:22.695
first movers. If we're going to get

01:25:22.719 --> 01:25:25.175
support from philanthropy, um if we're

01:25:25.199 --> 01:25:26.695
going to rebuild that membership, if

01:25:26.719 --> 01:25:28.615
we're going to get support from state

01:25:28.639 --> 01:25:30.615
government, federal government, we've

01:25:30.639 --> 01:25:33.639
actually got a got a lead on this. Um so

01:25:34.320 --> 01:25:36.936
the decision tonight um to allocate

01:25:36.960 --> 01:25:39.336
$22,000 is a gamecher because it means

01:25:39.360 --> 01:25:41.655
that the club can reopen and start

01:25:41.679 --> 01:25:44.679
rebuilding the membership and um the

01:25:44.800 --> 01:25:47.800
$60,000 to  subsidize the youth

01:25:48.080 --> 01:25:51.080
programs  will put PCYc on a on a

01:25:52.080 --> 01:25:55.080
stronger footing going forward. And as

01:25:55.120 --> 01:25:57.896
per my question earlier, um I'm keen to

01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:00.920
see council support PCYC how we can

01:26:01.600 --> 01:26:04.600
financial advocacy and um partnering

01:26:04.960 --> 01:26:07.016
through things like helping rebuild that

01:26:07.040 --> 01:26:09.336
membership because I think the club will

01:26:09.360 --> 01:26:12.360
serve  local residents and our council

01:26:13.199 --> 01:26:15.096
community for many years to come if we

01:26:15.120 --> 01:26:17.336
can get this right.

01:26:17.360 --> 01:26:18.776
Thank you. That is moved. Councelor

01:26:18.800 --> 01:26:20.215
Buckingham just a second to wish to

01:26:20.239 --> 01:26:21.096
speak.

01:26:21.120 --> 01:26:23.175
 yes, please. Thank you, ma'am. you

01:26:23.199 --> 01:26:24.215
might

01:26:24.239 --> 01:26:25.816
um

01:26:25.840 --> 01:26:28.376
over the last year potentially we've

01:26:28.400 --> 01:26:31.400
been um you know

01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:34.376
looking at ways to support PCYC looking

01:26:34.400 --> 01:26:36.936
at ways to get PCYC back operational and

01:26:36.960 --> 01:26:39.960
with the new board um we have finally um

01:26:40.880 --> 01:26:43.880
had what looks to us like a a a

01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:48.760
um feasible  path forward for them.

01:26:49.760 --> 01:26:51.976
So, it's my pleasure here to be able to

01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:54.296
second this along with um Councelor

01:26:54.320 --> 01:26:57.320
Buckingham  so that we can get those

01:26:57.360 --> 01:27:00.296
doors open again. We heard several weeks

01:27:00.320 --> 01:27:03.320
ago the incredibly moving stories um

01:27:04.000 --> 01:27:07.000
from members  youth members of PCYC

01:27:08.239 --> 01:27:11.239
who um PCYC had an incredible effect on

01:27:12.080 --> 01:27:13.896
their lives and we've heard through the

01:27:13.920 --> 01:27:16.296
emails that we've had the effect that

01:27:16.320 --> 01:27:19.320
PCYC has had on other people's lives.

01:27:19.440 --> 01:27:22.440
So, I'm super proud to be in a position

01:27:22.480 --> 01:27:25.480
to um first  you know um fund them to

01:27:27.120 --> 01:27:29.496
get the doors open, but also to consider

01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:32.215
the other funding through the budget and

01:27:32.239 --> 01:27:34.615
find them  additional funding to get

01:27:34.639 --> 01:27:36.296
them back on their feet and rebuild

01:27:36.320 --> 01:27:37.736
their membership after this period

01:27:37.760 --> 01:27:39.256
they're closed. And I'd like to just

01:27:39.280 --> 01:27:42.056
thank the board members who came and

01:27:42.080 --> 01:27:43.976
advocating these volunteers who are

01:27:44.000 --> 01:27:46.856
doing this, but also all the citizens um

01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:49.880
who have  emailed us, you know, 

01:27:50.880 --> 01:27:53.175
Michael and Glenn and Kath and Ian and

01:27:53.199 --> 01:27:55.336
Kathy and Dileia and Belinda and Jaguar

01:27:55.360 --> 01:27:58.360
and Chenade and Joy  and Chloe and

01:27:58.400 --> 01:28:00.296
Simone and David and Lena and Mark and

01:28:00.320 --> 01:28:02.296
Lee and Ari and Carla and a few others

01:28:02.320 --> 01:28:04.695
I've forgotten. Thank you everyone of

01:28:04.719 --> 01:28:07.655
you for emailing us. Those really make a

01:28:07.679 --> 01:28:09.256
difference. You telling your own stories

01:28:09.280 --> 01:28:11.175
and telling us about the impact makes a

01:28:11.199 --> 01:28:14.199
difference. So thank you all.

01:28:14.560 --> 01:28:16.056
Any other councilor's wishes by

01:28:16.080 --> 01:28:18.776
councelor Timman?

01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:21.096
Just like to also thank the people who

01:28:21.120 --> 01:28:23.576
have sent us their personal stories and

01:28:23.600 --> 01:28:26.600
experiences.  you know I we do get 

01:28:26.960 --> 01:28:29.960
emails sent on different   you know

01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:33.576
projects things but you know these

01:28:33.600 --> 01:28:34.936
emails actually were quite different

01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:37.256
because they were quite u you know

01:28:37.280 --> 01:28:39.016
individual there wasn't just copy paste

01:28:39.040 --> 01:28:42.040
of a message these actually was um

01:28:42.320 --> 01:28:45.320
personal experiences individual stories

01:28:45.760 --> 01:28:47.736
obviously makes a a much bigger

01:28:47.760 --> 01:28:49.416
difference than getting the same email

01:28:49.440 --> 01:28:52.440
100 times so I support this and hope

01:28:53.120 --> 01:28:56.120
that we and help PCYC with the new

01:28:56.480 --> 01:28:59.096
board. Very enthusiastic. They want to

01:28:59.120 --> 01:29:00.695
make it work. We want to make it work.

01:29:00.719 --> 01:29:02.695
Hopefully, the other two levels of

01:29:02.719 --> 01:29:04.215
government will come to the party

01:29:04.239 --> 01:29:06.456
because we can't just do it on our own.

01:29:06.480 --> 01:29:09.480
Um RV to support and for that small

01:29:11.120 --> 01:29:13.896
amount of money to be to be given to

01:29:13.920 --> 01:29:15.976
them now to open the gym for them to

01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:18.856
keep continuing their operation.  and

01:29:18.880 --> 01:29:21.736
 and I wish them luck. I know that

01:29:21.760 --> 01:29:23.655
they have got the heart is at the right

01:29:23.679 --> 01:29:26.679
place. So hopefully  we will achieve

01:29:27.360 --> 01:29:28.695
they will achieve what they want to

01:29:28.719 --> 01:29:30.936
achieve and that for the you know the

01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:33.960
benefits of all of us and our youth.

01:29:35.199 --> 01:29:37.336
Thank you councelor Timman. Any other

01:29:37.360 --> 01:29:39.816
counselors wish to speak? Councelor

01:29:39.840 --> 01:29:42.776
Councelor Console.

01:29:42.800 --> 01:29:45.800
Thank you. I know the PCYC has  had

01:29:46.320 --> 01:29:48.536
some periods shut recently and that's

01:29:48.560 --> 01:29:51.560
going to impact the next few months as

01:29:51.679 --> 01:29:53.336
they rebuild. I think it's great that

01:29:53.360 --> 01:29:55.175
we're putting this money on the table to

01:29:55.199 --> 01:29:57.496
help them open up because that gym

01:29:57.520 --> 01:29:59.416
generates the money to help support a

01:29:59.440 --> 01:30:01.256
lot of the programs and these programs

01:30:01.280 --> 01:30:03.175
aren't just run out of this facility. we

01:30:03.199 --> 01:30:04.615
benefit up in Port Melbourne and I'm

01:30:04.639 --> 01:30:06.695
looking forward to that expansion that

01:30:06.719 --> 01:30:09.655
 they're partnering with the um Beric

01:30:09.679 --> 01:30:12.679
Beacon Estate and there's a room there

01:30:12.800 --> 01:30:15.336
and opportunity and the funding is 

01:30:15.360 --> 01:30:17.816
something that needs to be secured.

01:30:17.840 --> 01:30:20.056
There are so many youth right now that

01:30:20.080 --> 01:30:22.056
need this kind of program. The

01:30:22.080 --> 01:30:23.736
preventative model is the right way

01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:25.976
forward and I think that this is a small

01:30:26.000 --> 01:30:27.496
contribution that we can make this time

01:30:27.520 --> 01:30:30.520
to help um make the best of that. Thank

01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:32.695
you. Thank you, Council Canalo.

01:30:32.719 --> 01:30:35.719
Councelor Jay.

01:30:36.400 --> 01:30:39.096
Um, thank you, Councelor Halliday,

01:30:39.120 --> 01:30:40.936
for reading out those names. We have

01:30:40.960 --> 01:30:43.960
been inundated with really supportive um

01:30:44.800 --> 01:30:46.936
um emails from the community and sharing

01:30:46.960 --> 01:30:49.960
their real life lived experience.  we

01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:52.695
need support for our youth more than

01:30:52.719 --> 01:30:54.856
ever. So, I will absolutely be

01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:57.880
supporting this tonight. Um

01:31:00.000 --> 01:31:01.655
there's nothing much more to say than

01:31:01.679 --> 01:31:04.679
that. Um I really wish the new board

01:31:06.080 --> 01:31:09.080
luck in this. We want this to be a

01:31:09.760 --> 01:31:12.760
legacy for another hundred years. Um and

01:31:13.360 --> 01:31:15.496
as a council, as a counselor group, as a

01:31:15.520 --> 01:31:16.936
community, I think we will all do

01:31:16.960 --> 01:31:19.096
everything that we can to make this a a

01:31:19.120 --> 01:31:22.120
success. Um but you are right council as

01:31:22.159 --> 01:31:24.056
we do need to work with state and

01:31:24.080 --> 01:31:27.080
federal on this just to um provide true

01:31:28.000 --> 01:31:31.000
sustainability for this great community

01:31:31.040 --> 01:31:34.040
organization. So  fingers crossed I

01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:37.096
will be supporting this tonight.

01:31:37.120 --> 01:31:39.096
Thank you councelor Jay. Any other

01:31:39.120 --> 01:31:42.120
counselors wish to speak?

01:31:43.440 --> 01:31:46.440
Councelor Hardy,

01:31:46.560 --> 01:31:48.695
I'm

01:31:48.719 --> 01:31:51.576
I'm just a bit

01:31:51.600 --> 01:31:54.056
torn between the fact that I think we

01:31:54.080 --> 01:31:57.080
should fully fund the PCYC,

01:31:57.760 --> 01:31:59.336
you know, and really set them back on

01:31:59.360 --> 01:32:01.816
their feet. And example of that, like

01:32:01.840 --> 01:32:03.655
the Echo Center, how much are we funding

01:32:03.679 --> 01:32:05.816
to them? Could we carve $20,000 off

01:32:05.840 --> 01:32:08.135
their funding to put to this other

01:32:08.159 --> 01:32:10.376
worthy cause? Southside Justice is

01:32:10.400 --> 01:32:11.736
another one that gets a lot of funding.

01:32:11.760 --> 01:32:14.056
And I'm reading a sentence here the in

01:32:14.080 --> 01:32:16.296
relation to the urban forest strategy.

01:32:16.320 --> 01:32:19.320
The draft budget for 2627 includes 1.1

01:32:20.480 --> 01:32:23.480
1.194 million. Now why can't we carve

01:32:23.600 --> 01:32:25.816
some money off that and an additional

01:32:25.840 --> 01:32:28.215
420k is included in the draft budget

01:32:28.239 --> 01:32:30.615
2627 for the public tree canopy

01:32:30.639 --> 01:32:32.456
protection program. Well, there's a bit

01:32:32.480 --> 01:32:33.896
of money we can carve out of that as

01:32:33.920 --> 01:32:36.296
well. So that's our decision I suppose

01:32:36.320 --> 01:32:38.536
during budget time. But my argument will

01:32:38.560 --> 01:32:40.215
be let's fully fund the place, get them

01:32:40.239 --> 01:32:41.736
right back on their feet and give them a

01:32:41.760 --> 01:32:44.760
bloody good go. Thank you.  thank you.

01:32:46.159 --> 01:32:47.736
Thank you councelor Hardy. Any other

01:32:47.760 --> 01:32:50.760
counselors wish to speak?

01:32:51.520 --> 01:32:52.936
We're almost going around the entire

01:32:52.960 --> 01:32:54.936
group. Any other counselors wish to

01:32:54.960 --> 01:32:57.960
speak?

01:32:58.400 --> 01:33:01.400
I might just comment briefly.

01:33:04.320 --> 01:33:06.615
Fully support the motion before us. do

01:33:06.639 --> 01:33:08.135
want to thank councelor Buckingham. I

01:33:08.159 --> 01:33:10.215
know you have worked very closely with

01:33:10.239 --> 01:33:13.239
PCYC and the wider community on this. So

01:33:14.239 --> 01:33:17.239
well done in getting this to this stage.

01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:20.456
What we are providing will hopefully

01:33:20.480 --> 01:33:23.480
enable PCYC to reopen the gym, start to

01:33:25.120 --> 01:33:27.736
build its revenue basis and start to

01:33:27.760 --> 01:33:30.760
obviously resume operations.

01:33:31.360 --> 01:33:33.896
As highlighted by many of us around the

01:33:33.920 --> 01:33:35.976
table, this is not a journey

01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:37.736
unfortunately council can take on its

01:33:37.760 --> 01:33:40.296
own, but certainly take on council

01:33:40.320 --> 01:33:42.695
Buckingham your point two weeks ago in

01:33:42.719 --> 01:33:45.416
leading the way on this.

01:33:45.440 --> 01:33:48.056
We do need other levels of government to

01:33:48.080 --> 01:33:50.296
support PCYC particularly in this

01:33:50.320 --> 01:33:53.320
rebuilding phase as we have and as we

01:33:53.520 --> 01:33:56.520
saw a very committed board in setting in

01:33:57.040 --> 01:33:59.576
stage the governance pro the govern good

01:33:59.600 --> 01:34:02.215
governance setting in place the staffing

01:34:02.239 --> 01:34:03.976
required to reopen and resume

01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:05.976
operations.

01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:08.056
We do need other levels of government

01:34:08.080 --> 01:34:11.080
now to follow our leadership and to

01:34:11.360 --> 01:34:14.360
commit to PCYC as well. happy to support

01:34:14.880 --> 01:34:16.695
this resolution

01:34:16.719 --> 01:34:18.615
and obviously we'll have budget 

01:34:18.639 --> 01:34:21.175
deliberations as part of this as well

01:34:21.199 --> 01:34:22.936
but certainly support this resolution

01:34:22.960 --> 01:34:25.736
and this ability to start that journey

01:34:25.760 --> 01:34:28.760
so PCYC can reopen the gym, rebuild its

01:34:28.880 --> 01:34:31.256
membership, rebuild its revenue base and

01:34:31.280 --> 01:34:33.336
rebuild its community. I commend the

01:34:33.360 --> 01:34:36.360
motion and 

01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:39.560
any other speakers in which case we does

01:34:39.840 --> 01:34:42.840
the mover wish to close? The mover 

01:34:43.199 --> 01:34:44.536
has indicated that they would like to

01:34:44.560 --> 01:34:47.336
put the motion. Therefore, we will take

01:34:47.360 --> 01:34:50.360
that to a vote. All those in favor

01:34:53.360 --> 01:34:56.360
that is carried unanimously.

01:34:58.080 --> 01:35:01.080
Well,

01:35:03.040 --> 01:35:06.040
takes us now to item 9.1, the urban

01:35:06.320 --> 01:35:09.096
forest strategy annual update.

01:35:09.120 --> 01:35:12.120
Any questions for officers for this

01:35:12.480 --> 01:35:15.480
item?

01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:21.000
Over to you, Councelor Halliday.

01:35:21.679 --> 01:35:23.336
 thank you, Mayor. Just wondering

01:35:23.360 --> 01:35:24.615
when we're talking about um

01:35:24.639 --> 01:35:27.639
notwithstanding  councelor Hardy's 

01:35:28.400 --> 01:35:31.400
keenness to  maybe tighten up on this

01:35:31.760 --> 01:35:34.760
one. Just wondering how many trees we've

01:35:35.199 --> 01:35:37.496
um put in this financial year and how

01:35:37.520 --> 01:35:40.520
many trees we're um planning on planting

01:35:41.280 --> 01:35:44.135
next financial year.

01:35:44.159 --> 01:35:46.296
 through you may there's around 900

01:35:46.320 --> 01:35:48.135
trees that have gone in this financial

01:35:48.159 --> 01:35:50.296
year and there's a further 900 which are

01:35:50.320 --> 01:35:52.376
planned for next financial year at this

01:35:52.400 --> 01:35:54.936
point that's outside our capital works

01:35:54.960 --> 01:35:57.816
programs um

01:35:57.840 --> 01:36:00.840
thank you any further questions

01:36:02.159 --> 01:36:04.296
yes councelor Halliday

01:36:04.320 --> 01:36:05.816
just

01:36:05.840 --> 01:36:08.840
just noting that um we're pushing out

01:36:10.000 --> 01:36:11.976
the um one of the actions here I think

01:36:12.000 --> 01:36:14.776
it's action 11 around undertaking the

01:36:14.800 --> 01:36:16.376
feasibility for the canopy target to

01:36:16.400 --> 01:36:19.400
achieve on streets by 2040 of 30%. We're

01:36:20.400 --> 01:36:23.400
pushing out that analysis out to I think

01:36:23.679 --> 01:36:26.679
it's year five or something here. Um did

01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:29.800
we undertake an analysis during the

01:36:30.159 --> 01:36:32.776
design of the urban forest strategy

01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:35.800
about the number of trees we would have

01:36:36.800 --> 01:36:39.800
to plant over time to reach that target?

01:36:40.800 --> 01:36:42.936
 through you Mayor. Um yes, there was

01:36:42.960 --> 01:36:45.336
an analysis that was done at that time

01:36:45.360 --> 01:36:47.976
um and it was matched up with the um

01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:49.976
urban heat island effect and the other

01:36:50.000 --> 01:36:52.215
things we had. What we didn't have at

01:36:52.239 --> 01:36:55.239
that point was um the urban forest

01:36:55.600 --> 01:36:57.816
precincts plans and the mapping that we

01:36:57.840 --> 01:36:59.816
were done with that we've done for them

01:36:59.840 --> 01:37:02.695
and are doing for them. Um, and that was

01:37:02.719 --> 01:37:05.719
the missing piece as to whether or not

01:37:05.760 --> 01:37:07.896
um what we would need to actually reach

01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:10.920
the 30% and what was um a um viable

01:37:12.000 --> 01:37:14.856
target.

01:37:14.880 --> 01:37:16.296
Yes, councelor Hel.

01:37:16.320 --> 01:37:18.296
So, just to that point again, if we're

01:37:18.320 --> 01:37:20.056
if we're pushing out this actual

01:37:20.080 --> 01:37:23.080
analysis right to 20 2030, I think it

01:37:23.199 --> 01:37:26.199
was or sorry, um where was it? It was

01:37:26.560 --> 01:37:28.856
pushed out somewhere. Anyway, um if

01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:31.336
we're pushing that out to year five,

01:37:31.360 --> 01:37:33.175
like it sounds like we have most of the

01:37:33.199 --> 01:37:35.256
information there. Do we have a did we

01:37:35.280 --> 01:37:38.280
have a a target that we think we need to

01:37:39.760 --> 01:37:42.615
of trees planted per year of a

01:37:42.639 --> 01:37:45.576
particular size to reach the target of

01:37:45.600 --> 01:37:47.736
30% by 2040?

01:37:47.760 --> 01:37:49.896
 through you may the action is

01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:52.920
actually to stretch that um that action

01:37:53.440 --> 01:37:55.816
across years one to five. it isn't to

01:37:55.840 --> 01:37:58.536
push it out to year five. Um, and so

01:37:58.560 --> 01:38:00.615
work will continue throughout that

01:38:00.639 --> 01:38:03.639
process on that action with an  a view

01:38:03.679 --> 01:38:06.536
to get that information as soon as

01:38:06.560 --> 01:38:09.256
possible. With regards to the trees,

01:38:09.280 --> 01:38:11.175
there was some work that was initially

01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:13.256
done. I don't know what that is off the

01:38:13.280 --> 01:38:14.776
top of my head, so I'd need to take it

01:38:14.800 --> 01:38:17.416
off on notice.

01:38:17.440 --> 01:38:19.016
Further questions, council holiday.

01:38:19.040 --> 01:38:21.336
 no, no, that was your hand going up

01:38:21.360 --> 01:38:23.736
again. Any other questions for officers

01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:26.760
to this item?

01:38:27.119 --> 01:38:29.416
Yes, councelor Tamar.

01:38:29.440 --> 01:38:31.175
Just as a reminder, obviously this

01:38:31.199 --> 01:38:32.856
document is very dense and I understand

01:38:32.880 --> 01:38:35.496
we're going through the whole city 

01:38:35.520 --> 01:38:38.296
with document  can you remind us of

01:38:38.320 --> 01:38:40.615
what was the cost in the budget to do

01:38:40.639 --> 01:38:43.496
that the whole action  you know that

01:38:43.520 --> 01:38:45.816
the whole proposal going mapping the

01:38:45.840 --> 01:38:48.840
whole city through for this strategy. So

01:38:49.040 --> 01:38:51.416
through you, Mayor, um the urban forest

01:38:51.440 --> 01:38:53.896
strategy um was adopted a couple of

01:38:53.920 --> 01:38:56.920
years ago.  we do have a budget around

01:38:57.360 --> 01:39:00.296
700,000 each year for greening Port

01:39:00.320 --> 01:39:03.256
Phillip program that we do um at the

01:39:03.280 --> 01:39:05.336
next council meeting we're bringing the

01:39:05.360 --> 01:39:08.056
urban forest precinct plans um which is

01:39:08.080 --> 01:39:10.615
a very dense document which we are doing

01:39:10.639 --> 01:39:13.639
nine of across the municipality. Um and

01:39:13.679 --> 01:39:15.496
there's money in the budget for that at

01:39:15.520 --> 01:39:18.520
the moment around 300,000

01:39:20.000 --> 01:39:20.695
CEO

01:39:20.719 --> 01:39:23.175
through you, Mayor. I think there's some

01:39:23.199 --> 01:39:25.736
dedicated funding sources for components

01:39:25.760 --> 01:39:27.816
of the of the plan. The broader plan

01:39:27.840 --> 01:39:30.536
also um has about a million dollars a

01:39:30.560 --> 01:39:33.560
year um through our infill tree planting

01:39:33.679 --> 01:39:35.336
program, which is also an important part

01:39:35.360 --> 01:39:37.256
of where we will get a large part of the

01:39:37.280 --> 01:39:39.736
trees planted from. That's increased

01:39:39.760 --> 01:39:42.760
from about 700,000 I think or 660,000

01:39:42.960 --> 01:39:45.960
under the last contract. Um it has a

01:39:46.239 --> 01:39:48.056
we're planning just through that alone

01:39:48.080 --> 01:39:51.080
next year  about a thousand trees

01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:54.776
 under the contract. Um and they of

01:39:54.800 --> 01:39:56.536
varying sizes. We're actually looking to

01:39:56.560 --> 01:39:59.560
plant um larger size trees where we can

01:40:00.719 --> 01:40:03.095
um and that's also got a better

01:40:03.119 --> 01:40:05.256
maintenance period to reduce the amount

01:40:05.280 --> 01:40:07.256
of trees that we're seeing dying. So we

01:40:07.280 --> 01:40:09.336
get better bang or better value for

01:40:09.360 --> 01:40:10.936
money from the planting that we're doing

01:40:10.960 --> 01:40:13.576
each year.  in addition to that, our

01:40:13.600 --> 01:40:15.896
capital programs also have a requirement

01:40:15.920 --> 01:40:17.496
to now think about particularly in our

01:40:17.520 --> 01:40:20.456
parks and other spaces. Um putting aside

01:40:20.480 --> 01:40:23.480
budget and planning for um  tree

01:40:24.400 --> 01:40:26.215
planting as part of those works and also

01:40:26.239 --> 01:40:27.816
biodiversity.

01:40:27.840 --> 01:40:30.135
 council's also got money in there for

01:40:30.159 --> 01:40:31.896
our tree canopy protection program which

01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:33.416
is really about trying to reduce the

01:40:33.440 --> 01:40:34.936
erosion of tree canopy that we have

01:40:34.960 --> 01:40:37.175
through our electrical line clearance.

01:40:37.199 --> 01:40:38.776
 and the f next few years is about

01:40:38.800 --> 01:40:41.800
460,000. and it goes up to over 600,000

01:40:42.000 --> 01:40:43.576
towards the out year. So there's fairly

01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:46.135
substantial investment being made beyond

01:40:46.159 --> 01:40:49.159
the 700,000 and I am expecting I need to

01:40:49.520 --> 01:40:51.016
clarify with officers but I am expecting

01:40:51.040 --> 01:40:53.016
to see more than 900 trees planted this

01:40:53.040 --> 01:40:55.976
year well over a thousand.

01:40:56.000 --> 01:40:58.856
Any further questions? Oh councelor

01:40:58.880 --> 01:41:00.936
Timman back to you.

01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:03.960
So  if I recolct we just changed the

01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:07.576
contractor to look after our trees. So,

01:41:07.600 --> 01:41:10.600
have we  are we satisfied with  

01:41:11.840 --> 01:41:13.816
with the work of the new contract and

01:41:13.840 --> 01:41:15.256
have you seen any differences compared

01:41:15.280 --> 01:41:18.280
to previously?

01:41:19.280 --> 01:41:20.856
I don't know. Maybe it's maybe not long

01:41:20.880 --> 01:41:22.215
enough to

01:41:22.239 --> 01:41:23.896
Yeah, it's only been it's been about two

01:41:23.920 --> 01:41:26.695
months. So, we do we are we are we are

01:41:26.719 --> 01:41:28.376
tracking performance in a range of

01:41:28.400 --> 01:41:29.976
different areas with the contractors at

01:41:30.000 --> 01:41:32.376
the moment. Obviously, beyond tree

01:41:32.400 --> 01:41:33.976
planting and and maintenance, they have

01:41:34.000 --> 01:41:35.576
a range of other responsibilities around

01:41:35.600 --> 01:41:37.336
pruning and things like that. We have

01:41:37.360 --> 01:41:39.256
seen a noticeable improvement in the

01:41:39.280 --> 01:41:41.256
tree pruning performance which had been

01:41:41.280 --> 01:41:43.496
lagging for an extended period of time

01:41:43.520 --> 01:41:45.976
under the previous contractor.  I

01:41:46.000 --> 01:41:47.175
haven't had an update on the tree

01:41:47.199 --> 01:41:49.736
planting yet.  we are due to get a

01:41:49.760 --> 01:41:52.695
3-month post implementation review

01:41:52.719 --> 01:41:54.615
report  which we'll share with

01:41:54.639 --> 01:41:56.296
councilors and see have an update on

01:41:56.320 --> 01:41:58.856
progress how it's going. But um initial

01:41:58.880 --> 01:42:01.880
signs are pretty positive.

01:42:02.159 --> 01:42:04.615
Councelor Timman another question.

01:42:04.639 --> 01:42:06.936
Yes.  in my street  obviously the

01:42:06.960 --> 01:42:08.936
contract has been very busy because

01:42:08.960 --> 01:42:10.615
there actually four trees they have to

01:42:10.639 --> 01:42:12.056
go because they are not the right trees

01:42:12.080 --> 01:42:15.080
or they are dead or whatever. So in in

01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:18.520
um once a tree is removed how long do we

01:42:19.920 --> 01:42:21.896
have to wait until it is replaced? I

01:42:21.920 --> 01:42:24.135
don't know if there's a standard if

01:42:24.159 --> 01:42:25.175
someone can

01:42:25.199 --> 01:42:28.199
 through you may it does depend on

01:42:28.239 --> 01:42:30.056
when the tree is removed. If it's

01:42:30.080 --> 01:42:31.976
removed through planting season, it will

01:42:32.000 --> 01:42:33.976
happen quicker and if it's removed

01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:36.376
outside planting season, it will take a

01:42:36.400 --> 01:42:38.695
little bit longer and it depends on tree

01:42:38.719 --> 01:42:41.719
stock as well. So, um, with

01:42:43.119 --> 01:42:44.856
the answer is a little bit it can vary,

01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:46.615
but we do try and put trees in as

01:42:46.639 --> 01:42:49.175
quickly as possible.

01:42:49.199 --> 01:42:52.199
Deputy May, you have a question.

01:42:54.480 --> 01:42:57.016
Yes, thank you, Mayor M. My question is

01:42:57.040 --> 01:42:59.816
is in relation specifically to nature

01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:02.840
strip. Um and this may have been visited

01:43:04.239 --> 01:43:07.239
this issue in recent times but um I'm

01:43:08.000 --> 01:43:11.000
probably trying to find out how um

01:43:11.600 --> 01:43:14.600
constrained we are in terms of 

01:43:15.920 --> 01:43:18.215
perhaps adding to or changing some

01:43:18.239 --> 01:43:21.239
elements of the nature strip guidelines.

01:43:21.440 --> 01:43:23.256
 specifically

01:43:23.280 --> 01:43:26.280
when one looks at St Kilda Road there is

01:43:26.880 --> 01:43:29.880
I believe great opportunity for the

01:43:30.080 --> 01:43:32.936
nature strips the particularly wide 

01:43:32.960 --> 01:43:35.576
to be more than just grass

01:43:35.600 --> 01:43:38.600
um and when allied with a community

01:43:38.960 --> 01:43:41.960
interest and desire to participate

01:43:42.000 --> 01:43:45.000
in um developing those nature strips

01:43:45.440 --> 01:43:47.016
into

01:43:47.040 --> 01:43:50.040
more attractive areas. Um I is that

01:43:50.239 --> 01:43:52.615
something we are able to do in the short

01:43:52.639 --> 01:43:55.639
term or do we have to wait until 2029?

01:43:57.280 --> 01:43:58.615
Thank you.

01:43:58.639 --> 01:44:00.776
 through you may the nature strip

01:44:00.800 --> 01:44:02.936
guidel so nature strips throughout the

01:44:02.960 --> 01:44:05.960
municipality are mainly um   up 

01:44:08.400 --> 01:44:11.175
maintained by residents. Um the nature

01:44:11.199 --> 01:44:14.199
strip guidelines is was created so that

01:44:15.199 --> 01:44:16.695
residents didn't have to jump through

01:44:16.719 --> 01:44:19.719
hoops to to um upgrade their nature

01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:22.856
strips out the front of their houses. So

01:44:22.880 --> 01:44:25.880
what is in those guidelines is um how to

01:44:26.400 --> 01:44:28.776
do it, what you can do on those nature

01:44:28.800 --> 01:44:31.256
strips um and the best way to to

01:44:31.280 --> 01:44:34.280
approach it. Um so yes, we do encourage

01:44:34.880 --> 01:44:37.095
um community members to upgrade their

01:44:37.119 --> 01:44:39.736
nature strips. What they do need to do,

01:44:39.760 --> 01:44:42.215
what the nature strips also, nature

01:44:42.239 --> 01:44:45.239
strip guidelines also outline is some

01:44:45.440 --> 01:44:47.175
restrictions to make sure that people

01:44:47.199 --> 01:44:49.736
can get in and out of their cars so that

01:44:49.760 --> 01:44:52.760
pathways remain clear so everyone can

01:44:53.040 --> 01:44:55.816
use them um regardless of their access

01:44:55.840 --> 01:44:58.840
needs. Um and to not plant near too

01:44:59.280 --> 01:45:01.576
close to trees to ensure the trees are

01:45:01.600 --> 01:45:04.135
healthy. Um so we absolutely encourage

01:45:04.159 --> 01:45:07.159
our community to upgrade nature strips

01:45:07.440 --> 01:45:10.440
um in an appropriate manner. Um and we

01:45:10.719 --> 01:45:13.719
have um a greening community greening

01:45:13.920 --> 01:45:16.920
officer  within a council who can also

01:45:17.280 --> 01:45:20.280
help community members um with any 

01:45:22.400 --> 01:45:25.095
with ideas and um assistance as to what

01:45:25.119 --> 01:45:27.896
they can and can't do. That position um

01:45:27.920 --> 01:45:30.135
 is currently vacant, but it will be

01:45:30.159 --> 01:45:33.095
filled within the next month.

01:45:33.119 --> 01:45:35.416
Thank you. We had a further question

01:45:35.440 --> 01:45:37.736
from councelor Halliday.

01:45:37.760 --> 01:45:39.736
 just following up on that discussion

01:45:39.760 --> 01:45:41.655
like  obviously we have the nature

01:45:41.679 --> 01:45:44.056
strip guidelines but do we offer actual

01:45:44.080 --> 01:45:47.080
kind of support or you know more you

01:45:48.320 --> 01:45:50.695
know more tangible support for people

01:45:50.719 --> 01:45:52.856
who actually want to um plant out their

01:45:52.880 --> 01:45:54.936
nature strips

01:45:54.960 --> 01:45:57.960
 through you Mayor. Um

01:45:58.639 --> 01:46:01.639
 we we offer support in way of

01:46:01.760 --> 01:46:03.976
education and this the community

01:46:04.000 --> 01:46:06.615
greening officer. Um we currently don't

01:46:06.639 --> 01:46:09.576
offer any um financial or plants or

01:46:09.600 --> 01:46:11.655
anything but there is we do run

01:46:11.679 --> 01:46:14.679
education programs and um and the

01:46:14.800 --> 01:46:16.296
community greening officer can come out

01:46:16.320 --> 01:46:18.536
and help community members. Plus we're

01:46:18.560 --> 01:46:20.856
also updating the information on our

01:46:20.880 --> 01:46:22.536
website. So there'll be lots of handy

01:46:22.560 --> 01:46:24.936
tips and tricks there.

01:46:24.960 --> 01:46:27.095
And  did you have a further question

01:46:27.119 --> 01:46:29.095
council? Councelor Jay had a question

01:46:29.119 --> 01:46:31.655
earlier.

01:46:31.679 --> 01:46:33.416
Um

01:46:33.440 --> 01:46:36.440
couple of just random questions Dana. Um

01:46:36.800 --> 01:46:39.336
the first one is is irrigation and

01:46:39.360 --> 01:46:41.655
watering included in this plan or is

01:46:41.679 --> 01:46:44.679
that something separate?

01:46:44.800 --> 01:46:47.256
 through you Mayor. Um the urban

01:46:47.280 --> 01:46:49.976
forest strategy did um propose an to

01:46:50.000 --> 01:46:53.000
develop an irrigation strategy um which

01:46:53.040 --> 01:46:56.040
was off the back of both the um act and

01:46:56.639 --> 01:46:58.296
adapt strategy and the public space

01:46:58.320 --> 01:47:01.320
strategy. Um council approach now is to

01:47:02.880 --> 01:47:05.576
have a I might get the the words wrong

01:47:05.600 --> 01:47:08.600
here but um a a a water strategy rather

01:47:08.880 --> 01:47:11.496
than being at that granular level. Um,

01:47:11.520 --> 01:47:13.095
and we're waiting for that to be done

01:47:13.119 --> 01:47:16.119
first before we continue on um with

01:47:16.400 --> 01:47:19.400
other strategies to do with water.

01:47:23.440 --> 01:47:25.416
Oh, sorry. Let me just put my glasses

01:47:25.440 --> 01:47:28.296
on. Um,

01:47:28.320 --> 01:47:30.936
this might be a tricky question, but in

01:47:30.960 --> 01:47:33.960
areas like Lakeside and Demain, is Brian

01:47:34.639 --> 01:47:37.496
Mes getting an urban forestry strategy

01:47:37.520 --> 01:47:40.520
and is St Kilder Road state and can that

01:47:41.520 --> 01:47:44.520
nature strip be improved on St Kilda

01:47:45.199 --> 01:47:47.336
Road?

01:47:47.360 --> 01:47:49.655
 through you, Mayor. The urban forest

01:47:49.679 --> 01:47:51.095
strategy covers the whole of the

01:47:51.119 --> 01:47:53.576
municipality. Um the urban forest

01:47:53.600 --> 01:47:56.600
precinct plans um are the are the work

01:47:57.119 --> 01:48:00.119
plans for each area. Um we've done one

01:48:00.719 --> 01:48:03.016
for Bellaclava East and Kilda. We're

01:48:03.040 --> 01:48:06.040
bringing two next  well next council

01:48:06.239 --> 01:48:08.776
meeting  which is Elbert Park Middle

01:48:08.800 --> 01:48:11.800
Park and St Kilda and St Kilda West and

01:48:11.840 --> 01:48:13.496
the other ones will be done throughout

01:48:13.520 --> 01:48:15.976
the next financial year to be adopted

01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:19.000
before  June 30 next financial year.

01:48:19.440 --> 01:48:22.440
Um, and with regards to St. Kilda Road,

01:48:23.679 --> 01:48:26.135
um, I can take that on notice and and we

01:48:26.159 --> 01:48:28.215
can have a,  I'd need a little bit

01:48:28.239 --> 01:48:29.655
more information

01:48:29.679 --> 01:48:31.976
cuz it there are they're really lovely

01:48:32.000 --> 01:48:33.736
big nature strips, but it's a little bit

01:48:33.760 --> 01:48:35.336
sort of artial state.

01:48:35.360 --> 01:48:36.456
That's going to be a question.

01:48:36.480 --> 01:48:39.016
Well, just take it on notice and see if

01:48:39.040 --> 01:48:40.456
there's something we can do to St.

01:48:40.480 --> 01:48:43.480
Kilder Road. Now, one more question. Um

01:48:43.760 --> 01:48:46.695
if residents in more the suburban

01:48:46.719 --> 01:48:48.936
suburbs of Port Phillip are tending to

01:48:48.960 --> 01:48:50.376
their nature strip and there's some

01:48:50.400 --> 01:48:53.400
beautiful gardens um um and if they did

01:48:53.840 --> 01:48:56.056
feel that the nature strip which may not

01:48:56.080 --> 01:48:57.896
be a garden they planted needed more

01:48:57.920 --> 01:49:00.920
mulch. Is there an avenue for them to

01:49:00.960 --> 01:49:03.960
request more mulch for our nature strip

01:49:04.400 --> 01:49:07.256
gardens

01:49:07.280 --> 01:49:09.576
 through you may there's not currently

01:49:09.600 --> 01:49:12.600
budget to assist with alternate planting

01:49:12.800 --> 01:49:15.800
of nature strips.

01:49:16.719 --> 01:49:17.896
Further question councelor

01:49:17.920 --> 01:49:20.376
sorry this will be my last question. Um,

01:49:20.400 --> 01:49:23.400
when nature strips are planted out, do

01:49:24.719 --> 01:49:27.719
we maintain or do we check up on those

01:49:27.920 --> 01:49:30.695
nature strips regularly to make sure

01:49:30.719 --> 01:49:32.615
that they have enough mulch and and

01:49:32.639 --> 01:49:35.336
everything else that they may need

01:49:35.360 --> 01:49:38.296
through you, Mayor? Nature strip um

01:49:38.320 --> 01:49:41.320
maintenance is  a residential um

01:49:41.679 --> 01:49:44.679
responsibility. So, no, we don't.

01:49:46.320 --> 01:49:49.320
Council Holiday, back to you. Sorry. Um,

01:49:50.000 --> 01:49:53.000
thank you, Dana.  with the, um, with

01:49:53.679 --> 01:49:55.416
the plane trees, we're we're getting a

01:49:55.440 --> 01:49:57.655
plane tree strategy or whatever it is

01:49:57.679 --> 01:49:59.976
coming up. I'm just wondering, you know,

01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:03.000
 with the electrical line clearance

01:50:03.520 --> 01:50:05.896
work, which we're also still waiting on

01:50:05.920 --> 01:50:08.456
hopefully some relief on that front, but

01:50:08.480 --> 01:50:10.776
we have a, um, an aerial bundling

01:50:10.800 --> 01:50:13.800
program at the moment. How much money do

01:50:13.920 --> 01:50:16.536
we dedicate to aerial bundling at the

01:50:16.560 --> 01:50:19.016
moment? and and how much does that cost

01:50:19.040 --> 01:50:22.040
us per span um in the city?

01:50:25.280 --> 01:50:27.016
So

01:50:27.040 --> 01:50:29.016
through you may that program that I

01:50:29.040 --> 01:50:31.175
referred to previously around our street

01:50:31.199 --> 01:50:33.256
tree canopy protection program that's

01:50:33.280 --> 01:50:35.736
essentially the bundling. So basically

01:50:35.760 --> 01:50:38.760
it's about 440,000 I think this year and

01:50:39.760 --> 01:50:41.496
next couple of years it grows to about

01:50:41.520 --> 01:50:44.296
600,000. It just depends on we we are

01:50:44.320 --> 01:50:47.016
relying on working with um the

01:50:47.040 --> 01:50:49.976
electrical line agencies um to make sure

01:50:50.000 --> 01:50:52.376
that we get approvals and obviously then

01:50:52.400 --> 01:50:53.896
there's a work there's a there's a fair

01:50:53.920 --> 01:50:55.736
bit of work that goes into coordinating

01:50:55.760 --> 01:50:58.760
and making those works happen. Um the

01:50:58.800 --> 01:51:01.800
figures can vary quite widely. Um I'll

01:51:02.159 --> 01:51:04.536
come back I'll take it on notice and and

01:51:04.560 --> 01:51:06.456
get some information for you. Basically,

01:51:06.480 --> 01:51:09.256
it's where we're trying to avoid

01:51:09.280 --> 01:51:12.215
harsh pruning or tree removal through um

01:51:12.239 --> 01:51:15.239
taking practical steps to

01:51:15.520 --> 01:51:18.520
um readjust how the lines are currently

01:51:18.639 --> 01:51:21.416
um located. We don't really do

01:51:21.440 --> 01:51:22.296
undergrounding because that's

01:51:22.320 --> 01:51:23.816
prohibitively expensive, but the

01:51:23.840 --> 01:51:25.095
bundling that you've talked about is

01:51:25.119 --> 01:51:28.119
generally the strategy that we approach.

01:51:29.199 --> 01:51:32.199
Any further questions?

01:51:34.239 --> 01:51:37.239
Going once. Going twice.

01:51:37.599 --> 01:51:39.575
There's a recommendation before us. Is

01:51:39.599 --> 01:51:40.936
that

01:51:40.960 --> 01:51:42.536
Yes, you certainly can. Councelor

01:51:42.560 --> 01:51:45.560
Halliday. Do we have a seconder?

01:51:47.119 --> 01:51:49.896
That is seconded. Councelor Jay, does

01:51:49.920 --> 01:51:52.920
the mover wish to speak?

01:51:54.080 --> 01:51:56.536
Um,

01:51:56.560 --> 01:51:58.936
thank you again officers  and thank

01:51:58.960 --> 01:52:01.816
you Dana for um

01:52:01.840 --> 01:52:04.840
being peppered with questions.  I'd

01:52:05.360 --> 01:52:07.095
love to spend more money on planting

01:52:07.119 --> 01:52:10.119
trees, Rod.  let's spend more money

01:52:11.119 --> 01:52:13.496
planting trees. Everyone loves trees,

01:52:13.520 --> 01:52:15.416
don't they?

01:52:15.440 --> 01:52:17.896
 I think this is a very important

01:52:17.920 --> 01:52:20.536
piece of work um for the city of Port

01:52:20.560 --> 01:52:22.536
Phillip. First, in actually having an

01:52:22.560 --> 01:52:25.560
urban forest strategy.  second in the

01:52:26.320 --> 01:52:29.320
way that it a recognizes the benefits of

01:52:29.840 --> 01:52:32.296
tree canopy in the long term whether

01:52:32.320 --> 01:52:35.320
it's um because of urban heat island

01:52:36.080 --> 01:52:37.736
effects and the mitigating effect of the

01:52:37.760 --> 01:52:40.215
trees but just for the the health and

01:52:40.239 --> 01:52:43.239
well-being benefits of having trees near

01:52:43.840 --> 01:52:46.840
where you live, near where you walk on

01:52:47.199 --> 01:52:50.199
the streets um and near where you work.

01:52:50.320 --> 01:52:53.320
 as well. The the benefits of trees

01:52:53.440 --> 01:52:55.416
are immense in all of these areas. Very

01:52:55.440 --> 01:52:58.440
well documented. Um hence my questions

01:52:59.040 --> 01:53:01.896
here about how we're going to get to our

01:53:01.920 --> 01:53:04.296
target. I want to see us succeed in this

01:53:04.320 --> 01:53:07.016
target. I want us to um you know and I

01:53:07.040 --> 01:53:08.615
know we are taking this very seriously.

01:53:08.639 --> 01:53:10.936
I want us to resource this properly as

01:53:10.960 --> 01:53:13.095
well so that it does succeed so that we

01:53:13.119 --> 01:53:16.119
do achieve our 30%. Um as um Dana says,

01:53:16.880 --> 01:53:18.776
you know, we're seeing our next 

01:53:18.800 --> 01:53:20.856
precinct plans coming up for St. Kilda

01:53:20.880 --> 01:53:23.880
West, St Kilda um and Elbert Park and

01:53:23.920 --> 01:53:25.976
Middle Park.  it's exciting to see

01:53:26.000 --> 01:53:28.056
these. I think we have some challenges

01:53:28.080 --> 01:53:29.655
coming up as well. We have the

01:53:29.679 --> 01:53:30.936
challenges of how we're going to manage

01:53:30.960 --> 01:53:33.336
our plane trees. We have the challenges

01:53:33.360 --> 01:53:35.256
of how we're going to manage our palm

01:53:35.280 --> 01:53:38.280
trees. Um and we have some big risks in

01:53:39.040 --> 01:53:42.040
both of those areas.  so I am

01:53:43.679 --> 01:53:45.175
exceptionally

01:53:45.199 --> 01:53:48.199
um proud of the work we're doing here.

01:53:48.239 --> 01:53:49.736
Happy to hear that we've got new

01:53:49.760 --> 01:53:51.736
contractors here who are better

01:53:51.760 --> 01:53:53.496
nurturing our trees that we are getting

01:53:53.520 --> 01:53:55.736
in the in the ground. Happy to hear that

01:53:55.760 --> 01:53:57.736
we are planting more trees. We are

01:53:57.760 --> 01:53:59.896
taking better care of them.  this is

01:53:59.920 --> 01:54:01.496
important work and it's important for

01:54:01.520 --> 01:54:03.336
every one of us who lives in this city.

01:54:03.360 --> 01:54:06.360
 so thank you all and um let's keep

01:54:07.199 --> 01:54:10.199
pushing for more trees.  and better

01:54:10.400 --> 01:54:13.400
trees through our city.

01:54:13.840 --> 01:54:16.840
Does the secondary wish to speak?

01:54:22.159 --> 01:54:25.159
Um interestingly, one of the biggest um

01:54:26.320 --> 01:54:29.320
complaints that I've received over my

01:54:29.599 --> 01:54:31.496
year and a half at council is about

01:54:31.520 --> 01:54:34.520
trees. Um, not enough, too many. Too

01:54:35.119 --> 01:54:37.736
many roots, not enough water, too many

01:54:37.760 --> 01:54:40.760
weeds,  too close to the electrical

01:54:40.960 --> 01:54:42.695
lines. You've cut it back too much. You

01:54:42.719 --> 01:54:45.095
haven't cut it back enough. Um, it's in

01:54:45.119 --> 01:54:46.695
my gutters, it's out of my gutters, it's

01:54:46.719 --> 01:54:49.095
in the drain, it's out of the drain. We

01:54:49.119 --> 01:54:51.896
all absolutely um, living in the inner

01:54:51.920 --> 01:54:54.856
city is great, but we do face challenges

01:54:54.880 --> 01:54:57.095
where we are sharing our space with

01:54:57.119 --> 01:55:00.119
nature. um just due to a lot of the

01:55:00.320 --> 01:55:02.135
services that are so close under the

01:55:02.159 --> 01:55:04.135
ground makes it really difficult just to

01:55:04.159 --> 01:55:06.776
plant trees. I think um you know it's

01:55:06.800 --> 01:55:08.536
easy just to sort of say hey we'll just

01:55:08.560 --> 01:55:10.615
plant the trees but there is a lot of

01:55:10.639 --> 01:55:12.376
services in the inner city under the

01:55:12.400 --> 01:55:14.856
ground that really inhibits what we do

01:55:14.880 --> 01:55:17.816
and and where we do it. Um, this council

01:55:17.840 --> 01:55:20.840
is certainly focused um on more green,

01:55:20.960 --> 01:55:22.456
especially to balance out the

01:55:22.480 --> 01:55:25.016
densification of of our buildings,

01:55:25.040 --> 01:55:27.256
especially along St. Kilder Road and

01:55:27.280 --> 01:55:30.215
some of those other other really builtup

01:55:30.239 --> 01:55:32.776
areas. So, I absolutely support these

01:55:32.800 --> 01:55:35.800
strategies and finding a way through

01:55:36.400 --> 01:55:39.400
this um and having a green city. So,

01:55:40.560 --> 01:55:43.016
thank you.

01:55:43.040 --> 01:55:45.655
Any other councilors wish to speak? Yes,

01:55:45.679 --> 01:55:47.655
councelor Gonzalez.

01:55:47.679 --> 01:55:49.336
Thank you. I too am very supportive of

01:55:49.360 --> 01:55:51.095
more trees. You really notice in summer

01:55:51.119 --> 01:55:53.016
how much cooler it is when we have a

01:55:53.040 --> 01:55:55.736
treelined area.  they are problematic

01:55:55.760 --> 01:55:57.736
in the leaf season, but we are working

01:55:57.760 --> 01:55:59.175
through that and making sure that as we

01:55:59.199 --> 01:56:00.936
move forward, we're selecting the right

01:56:00.960 --> 01:56:02.296
trees and there's much more knowledge

01:56:02.320 --> 01:56:05.016
and our team's really well um resourced

01:56:05.040 --> 01:56:06.856
for this knowledge and I appreciate

01:56:06.880 --> 01:56:08.615
everything they put into this. The

01:56:08.639 --> 01:56:10.776
nature strip guidelines was a big topic

01:56:10.800 --> 01:56:12.695
a couple years ago and since then I've

01:56:12.719 --> 01:56:14.296
actually had really positive comments

01:56:14.320 --> 01:56:15.496
come back to me. So, I'm glad we're

01:56:15.520 --> 01:56:18.056
seeing that continue. I do think that we

01:56:18.080 --> 01:56:20.615
should look at a policy in the council

01:56:20.639 --> 01:56:23.175
about letting people irrigate the nature

01:56:23.199 --> 01:56:25.095
strips because if people are willing to

01:56:25.119 --> 01:56:26.456
pay for the water, it's only going to

01:56:26.480 --> 01:56:28.296
benefit. But it's just probably that how

01:56:28.320 --> 01:56:31.095
it works on public land. But it really a

01:56:31.119 --> 01:56:32.936
lot of people drag out the hoses to do

01:56:32.960 --> 01:56:34.456
it because it's the right thing to do to

01:56:34.480 --> 01:56:36.536
make those trees and um grass or

01:56:36.560 --> 01:56:37.976
whatever is all the nature strips. I

01:56:38.000 --> 01:56:39.736
live in Garden City, so it's very much

01:56:39.760 --> 01:56:41.496
big nature strips. That's probably more

01:56:41.520 --> 01:56:43.976
my area I'm talking about. But um

01:56:44.000 --> 01:56:45.016
something that we might need to look

01:56:45.040 --> 01:56:48.040
into as an option. Thank you.

01:56:48.239 --> 01:56:50.376
Any other counselors wish to speak?

01:56:50.400 --> 01:56:52.856
Councelor Tamman.

01:56:52.880 --> 01:56:54.695
Well, I think we need a new a good

01:56:54.719 --> 01:56:56.456
strategy because just looking at my

01:56:56.480 --> 01:56:59.256
street where trees were planted 15 or 20

01:56:59.280 --> 01:57:00.536
years ago and now they have to be

01:57:00.560 --> 01:57:01.575
removed because they had the wrong

01:57:01.599 --> 01:57:04.599
trees. So the trees take a long time to

01:57:05.199 --> 01:57:07.095
grow and it's sort of disappointing that

01:57:07.119 --> 01:57:09.896
if we don't do it right,  it's we

01:57:09.920 --> 01:57:11.736
don't we definitely achieve the wrong

01:57:11.760 --> 01:57:14.760
outcome. So um I hope that this strategy

01:57:15.920 --> 01:57:18.920
will guide us through the future because

01:57:19.040 --> 01:57:20.856
you know as I said trees take a long

01:57:20.880 --> 01:57:23.496
time to grow and  if you want to reach

01:57:23.520 --> 01:57:26.520
the canopy that we've reached by 2050

01:57:26.719 --> 01:57:29.719
 we need good trees that grow.

01:57:31.440 --> 01:57:33.976
Any other councilors wish to speak?

01:57:34.000 --> 01:57:37.000
Deputy Mayor messes over to you.

01:57:38.480 --> 01:57:41.480
Thank you.  my comments really I'm

01:57:41.760 --> 01:57:43.896
quite encouraged by this. I I think

01:57:43.920 --> 01:57:46.920
there's great potential. I believe we

01:57:46.960 --> 01:57:49.960
should tap further into the community's

01:57:50.400 --> 01:57:53.400
willingness and desire to be part of

01:57:53.520 --> 01:57:56.520
their  surroundings to to impact their

01:57:57.599 --> 01:58:00.536
surroundings to improve  be creative

01:58:00.560 --> 01:58:03.560
and  really spend time in the

01:58:03.920 --> 01:58:06.920
environment. I  I agree with 

01:58:08.560 --> 01:58:11.560
councelor Halliday.  everyone loves

01:58:12.080 --> 01:58:14.215
trees and there's a good part of

01:58:14.239 --> 01:58:17.239
Lakeside has got trees  up and down

01:58:17.920 --> 01:58:20.920
Sin Kilda Road. We've also got massive

01:58:21.760 --> 01:58:24.456
nature strips that are basically covered

01:58:24.480 --> 01:58:27.336
in grass. Council has to um mow

01:58:27.360 --> 01:58:29.016
frequently.

01:58:29.040 --> 01:58:32.040
My vision is that we motivate an army of

01:58:32.480 --> 01:58:35.480
these of the in the community to do more

01:58:36.159 --> 01:58:38.615
in the nature strip on the nature strips

01:58:38.639 --> 01:58:41.016
that that are up and down St Kilda road

01:58:41.040 --> 01:58:43.175
and I appreciate the comments that donor

01:58:43.199 --> 01:58:46.199
has made in terms of the availability of

01:58:46.320 --> 01:58:49.320
information um and guidelines etc. But I

01:58:51.440 --> 01:58:53.816
think over time I would like to be a lot

01:58:53.840 --> 01:58:56.840
more um I suppose put more pressure

01:58:58.320 --> 01:59:01.320
locally and give stronger guidance to

01:59:03.360 --> 01:59:06.360
how we can irrigate what type of plants

01:59:06.719 --> 01:59:09.416
and actually get people lined up to

01:59:09.440 --> 01:59:12.440
assist on the ground because I see the

01:59:12.639 --> 01:59:15.336
nature strip extending from Sinilda

01:59:15.360 --> 01:59:18.360
Junction to Turk Road as opposed to two

01:59:19.520 --> 01:59:21.336
two feet outside the front of my

01:59:21.360 --> 01:59:24.360
property. So, I I encourage and will be

01:59:25.040 --> 01:59:27.736
encouraging a lot more community

01:59:27.760 --> 01:59:30.760
involvement in this particular

01:59:31.040 --> 01:59:33.496
 strategy. So,  well done so far,

01:59:33.520 --> 01:59:35.655
but I think we can do a lot more. We can

01:59:35.679 --> 01:59:37.655
be a lot more creative and it doesn't

01:59:37.679 --> 01:59:39.976
have to cost us money. So, thank you for

01:59:40.000 --> 01:59:42.215
that. Thank you.

01:59:42.239 --> 01:59:44.135
Thank you, Deputy Mayor. May any other

01:59:44.159 --> 01:59:47.159
councilors wish to speak?

01:59:49.360 --> 01:59:51.496
We've all confirmed our love for trees

01:59:51.520 --> 01:59:54.215
by the takes of it.

01:59:54.239 --> 01:59:57.095
In which case does the mover wish to

01:59:57.119 --> 01:59:58.776
close?

01:59:58.800 --> 02:00:00.376
Over to you, councelor Halliday as a

02:00:00.400 --> 02:00:03.336
mover. Would you like to close? I look

02:00:03.360 --> 02:00:06.215
forward to um progressing the discussion

02:00:06.239 --> 02:00:09.239
about  support for nature strip reing

02:00:09.840 --> 02:00:12.296
with my fellow counselors.

02:00:12.320 --> 02:00:15.095
 and let's put the motion, shall we?

02:00:15.119 --> 02:00:18.119
The motion is being put. All those in

02:00:18.560 --> 02:00:20.376
favor,

02:00:20.400 --> 02:00:23.400
that is carried unanimously.

02:00:23.679 --> 02:00:25.575
Congratulations.

02:00:25.599 --> 02:00:28.599
Our love for trees is confirmed.

02:00:29.520 --> 02:00:32.520
Takes us to item 10.1, the Silda Marina

02:00:32.960 --> 02:00:35.896
endorsement of the updated site brief.

02:00:35.920 --> 02:00:38.920
Are there any questions for officers?

02:00:42.320 --> 02:00:45.320
 councelor Timman a question.

02:00:46.639 --> 02:00:49.639
Um the first question is obviously um

02:00:50.560 --> 02:00:53.560
council previously u attended to find

02:00:54.239 --> 02:00:56.936
the right tenant for the Sincular

02:00:56.960 --> 02:00:59.960
Marina. Um what are we doing differently

02:01:00.480 --> 02:01:03.095
this time  compared to the last time

02:01:03.119 --> 02:01:06.119
to be able to secure um a tenant who is

02:01:07.920 --> 02:01:10.920
able to run the marina for us?

02:01:16.320 --> 02:01:19.320
video. Anthony Sevenov, head of 

02:01:19.520 --> 02:01:22.376
portfolio

02:01:22.400 --> 02:01:25.400
through you, Mayor.

02:01:26.080 --> 02:01:28.056
We've  taken learnings from the

02:01:28.080 --> 02:01:31.080
previous um transaction transaction

02:01:31.199 --> 02:01:33.496
process. some key things we're doing

02:01:33.520 --> 02:01:36.135
differently for this one to help improve

02:01:36.159 --> 02:01:38.135
outcomes for city of Port Phillip and

02:01:38.159 --> 02:01:39.816
increase the chance of realizing the

02:01:39.840 --> 02:01:42.840
vision that's set out in the site brief

02:01:42.880 --> 02:01:45.880
include  providing more and better

02:01:45.920 --> 02:01:47.655
information to the market. So we've done

02:01:47.679 --> 02:01:50.456
some further technical assessments  of

02:01:50.480 --> 02:01:53.480
the site to help  tendras understand

02:01:54.080 --> 02:01:56.936
better the  site conditions and the

02:01:56.960 --> 02:01:58.615
risks associated with the site and the

02:01:58.639 --> 02:02:01.496
opportunities of the site.

02:02:01.520 --> 02:02:04.376
We've also as you see from the report 

02:02:04.400 --> 02:02:07.175
we're suggesting some  minor

02:02:07.199 --> 02:02:10.199
recalibration of the site brief  again

02:02:10.320 --> 02:02:13.016
to give it better chance of success in

02:02:13.040 --> 02:02:14.536
the market and therefore better chance

02:02:14.560 --> 02:02:17.175
of success of being realized. We've also

02:02:17.199 --> 02:02:20.135
made some  we're making some tweaks to

02:02:20.159 --> 02:02:22.695
the way we're approaching the market 

02:02:22.719 --> 02:02:25.719
in terms of um getting out the

02:02:25.920 --> 02:02:28.536
information about the opportunity  and

02:02:28.560 --> 02:02:31.560
also how we propose to evaluate

02:02:31.760 --> 02:02:34.760
um the the proposals what we're

02:02:34.960 --> 02:02:37.256
expecting from the market. Councelor

02:02:37.280 --> 02:02:39.175
Tamman further question

02:02:39.199 --> 02:02:42.199
so in terms of advertising

02:02:42.239 --> 02:02:45.239
 the fact that we're going for  you

02:02:45.599 --> 02:02:47.976
know eventually an EOI how are we going

02:02:48.000 --> 02:02:50.695
to advertise to the market that there is

02:02:50.719 --> 02:02:52.936
a great opportunity on the Sinula for

02:02:52.960 --> 02:02:55.960
sure that should not be missed

02:02:56.880 --> 02:02:59.880
through you may propose we propose to um

02:03:00.320 --> 02:03:03.175
build awareness of the opportunity 

02:03:03.199 --> 02:03:05.336
through um putting out information

02:03:05.360 --> 02:03:07.496
through multiple channels

02:03:07.520 --> 02:03:10.520
 primarily industry associations

02:03:11.599 --> 02:03:13.416
locally and internationally. For

02:03:13.440 --> 02:03:15.095
instance, the Marina Industries

02:03:15.119 --> 02:03:16.776
Association,

02:03:16.800 --> 02:03:19.016
newspapers, again locally and

02:03:19.040 --> 02:03:21.336
internationally like  Australian

02:03:21.360 --> 02:03:24.360
Financial Review and the business times

02:03:25.440 --> 02:03:28.215
 and thirdly through industry news

02:03:28.239 --> 02:03:31.239
websites like  the marinaorld.com

02:03:32.159 --> 02:03:33.896
website. So they're the primary

02:03:33.920 --> 02:03:35.575
channels.

02:03:35.599 --> 02:03:36.456
So

02:03:36.480 --> 02:03:38.135
further question.

02:03:38.159 --> 02:03:40.936
So we are actually promoting this

02:03:40.960 --> 02:03:43.960
opportunity locally but also  on the

02:03:44.000 --> 02:03:46.056
on the world scale. Yes.

02:03:46.080 --> 02:03:49.080
Correct.

02:03:49.360 --> 02:03:51.496
Any further questions? Councelor

02:03:51.520 --> 02:03:53.256
Halliday.

02:03:53.280 --> 02:03:54.856
 thank you Mayor. We have um

02:03:54.880 --> 02:03:57.880
representatives here um of  the

02:03:58.159 --> 02:04:00.135
Australian Volunteer Coast Guard. Is

02:04:00.159 --> 02:04:03.159
that right? Craig. Thank you. um just 

02:04:04.000 --> 02:04:06.056
they were

02:04:06.080 --> 02:04:09.080
you know engaging with us around their

02:04:09.440 --> 02:04:12.440
their level of um involvement or in

02:04:13.040 --> 02:04:14.695
being informed about the updates but

02:04:14.719 --> 02:04:17.719
also about having their needs on the

02:04:18.239 --> 02:04:20.856
site addressed through the process. what

02:04:20.880 --> 02:04:23.880
can they expect during this process and

02:04:24.320 --> 02:04:27.320
going you know if if there is a new um

02:04:27.520 --> 02:04:30.520
you know vendor or um operator appointed

02:04:31.119 --> 02:04:34.119
to the site.

02:04:34.480 --> 02:04:36.296
 thank you for the question through

02:04:36.320 --> 02:04:38.856
you Mayor.

02:04:38.880 --> 02:04:41.655
 we do note I'll start off by saying

02:04:41.679 --> 02:04:44.215
we do note the  the long interest the

02:04:44.239 --> 02:04:46.936
interest and  strong history long

02:04:46.960 --> 02:04:49.016
history of the coast guard  and their

02:04:49.040 --> 02:04:52.040
work um and their involvement in in the

02:04:52.800 --> 02:04:55.800
municipality.

02:04:55.840 --> 02:04:58.840
We also note their  interest in being

02:04:59.040 --> 02:05:01.816
directly informed  not just through

02:05:01.840 --> 02:05:04.840
the newsletters. Um we thank them for

02:05:05.119 --> 02:05:07.655
meeting with us last week.  that was

02:05:07.679 --> 02:05:10.536
informative and we  hope to keep up

02:05:10.560 --> 02:05:12.695
that dialogue as we move through the

02:05:12.719 --> 02:05:15.719
process. Um keep in mind that the

02:05:16.400 --> 02:05:19.400
process is um not likely to be a short

02:05:19.599 --> 02:05:21.575
one. The transaction process is multiple

02:05:21.599 --> 02:05:24.536
stage. Um from go to where we anticipate

02:05:24.560 --> 02:05:26.936
it will take about 18 months.  and

02:05:26.960 --> 02:05:28.615
that's just the transaction process. And

02:05:28.639 --> 02:05:31.639
then beyond that um assuming we secure a

02:05:33.119 --> 02:05:35.896
a tenant  there'll be other stages

02:05:35.920 --> 02:05:38.920
like design etc.

02:05:40.080 --> 02:05:41.336
Thank you for taking my question

02:05:41.360 --> 02:05:42.456
councelor Halliday. I was going to

02:05:42.480 --> 02:05:43.976
ask that one.

02:05:44.000 --> 02:05:46.456
Any further questions? Yes councelor

02:05:46.480 --> 02:05:49.480
Tim.

02:05:52.400 --> 02:05:55.336
As we are aware, there is a substantial

02:05:55.360 --> 02:05:57.416
soil contamination in the city of Port

02:05:57.440 --> 02:05:59.575
Phillip and this is in particular the

02:05:59.599 --> 02:06:01.175
case here at the Sincular Marina which

02:06:01.199 --> 02:06:04.199
was built on infield soil. This will be

02:06:04.639 --> 02:06:06.695
a risk for any prospective tenants for

02:06:06.719 --> 02:06:09.256
the marina and this has proven in the

02:06:09.280 --> 02:06:12.280
past.  what is proposed to help

02:06:12.719 --> 02:06:15.719
tenants understand and manage this risk?

02:06:18.800 --> 02:06:20.936
through you. Mayor, city of Port Phillip

02:06:20.960 --> 02:06:23.816
has commissioned a detailed site 

02:06:23.840 --> 02:06:25.575
investigation.

02:06:25.599 --> 02:06:28.599
The report for that, the report um

02:06:29.360 --> 02:06:31.496
provides an understanding of the

02:06:31.520 --> 02:06:34.520
contamination profile of the site. We've

02:06:34.880 --> 02:06:37.880
also  commissioned  an independent

02:06:38.239 --> 02:06:41.239
assessment  to consider the to assess

02:06:41.760 --> 02:06:44.760
the and consider the groundwater flow 

02:06:45.520 --> 02:06:47.816
across the site. principally from the um

02:06:47.840 --> 02:06:50.135
the petrol station.

02:06:50.159 --> 02:06:52.456
 so that's useful information that we

02:06:52.480 --> 02:06:55.256
have that we intend to provide

02:06:55.280 --> 02:06:58.280
 to  through this process to

02:06:58.480 --> 02:07:01.480
potential tenderers to help them assess

02:07:01.520 --> 02:07:04.135
the the risks of the site  the costs

02:07:04.159 --> 02:07:07.159
of dealing with those risks.  and um

02:07:09.119 --> 02:07:10.936
that's in addition to other other

02:07:10.960 --> 02:07:12.695
investigations that we've had completed

02:07:12.719 --> 02:07:14.376
or having completed and will also

02:07:14.400 --> 02:07:17.175
provide to help them build up a picture

02:07:17.199 --> 02:07:20.199
 of the of the opportunity and also

02:07:21.040 --> 02:07:23.336
make um help them with their own

02:07:23.360 --> 02:07:26.055
assessments of the site.

02:07:26.079 --> 02:07:28.215
Councelor Tamman,

02:07:28.239 --> 02:07:29.976
you tell me if it's a question I can't

02:07:30.000 --> 02:07:32.615
ask but  or it should be a question

02:07:32.639 --> 02:07:34.695
asked during the confidential but

02:07:34.719 --> 02:07:35.976
obviously there are cost of

02:07:36.000 --> 02:07:39.000
decontaminating the site. So um and I

02:07:39.599 --> 02:07:42.135
know that there have been problems with

02:07:42.159 --> 02:07:45.095
in the last you know through the proc

02:07:45.119 --> 02:07:46.615
you know the recent process about who is

02:07:46.639 --> 02:07:49.639
paying for it. So um how we and there

02:07:50.800 --> 02:07:52.376
were figures up to 20 million at some

02:07:52.400 --> 02:07:54.536
point in time for to decontaminate the

02:07:54.560 --> 02:07:57.560
site. So is who who are we are we just

02:07:58.079 --> 02:08:00.776
expecting the future tenant to pay for

02:08:00.800 --> 02:08:02.615
it or is council going to contribute or

02:08:02.639 --> 02:08:05.639
what what are the best options to look

02:08:05.760 --> 02:08:07.655
at the contamination obviously

02:08:07.679 --> 02:08:10.615
understand that it's contamin it's you

02:08:10.639 --> 02:08:12.776
know you have to take once you start 

02:08:12.800 --> 02:08:14.695
digging and things so I suppose there

02:08:14.719 --> 02:08:17.719
are ways to deal with it but how we how

02:08:18.800 --> 02:08:20.536
we you know you know if there's a big

02:08:20.560 --> 02:08:23.336
cost who's going to pay for it or who

02:08:23.360 --> 02:08:26.360
are we expecting to pay for

02:08:26.880 --> 02:08:29.575
through you may to develop the site

02:08:29.599 --> 02:08:32.456
according to the site vision um comes

02:08:32.480 --> 02:08:35.256
with very major costs. One of them is

02:08:35.280 --> 02:08:37.816
the site contamination

02:08:37.840 --> 02:08:40.296
we're doing. The principal way that we

02:08:40.320 --> 02:08:42.296
can assist is to provide the information

02:08:42.320 --> 02:08:44.215
that we have to help people make their

02:08:44.239 --> 02:08:47.239
own assessment about  the costs.

02:08:47.360 --> 02:08:49.896
Importantly though

02:08:49.920 --> 02:08:52.776
um part of the cost of of  of

02:08:52.800 --> 02:08:55.016
decontaminating and and the management

02:08:55.040 --> 02:08:58.040
of that that um contamination challenge

02:08:58.880 --> 02:09:01.336
um will depend on what specifically is

02:09:01.360 --> 02:09:03.095
proposed. So by understanding the

02:09:03.119 --> 02:09:05.575
profile of contamination

02:09:05.599 --> 02:09:08.376
 including which parts of the sites

02:09:08.400 --> 02:09:11.400
are more or less contaminated the the

02:09:11.440 --> 02:09:14.440
the development um a tendra can propose

02:09:15.440 --> 02:09:18.055
a concept that that better or less suits

02:09:18.079 --> 02:09:20.776
or better suits and better manages the

02:09:20.800 --> 02:09:23.800
contamination. So part of the cost

02:09:24.000 --> 02:09:26.536
 and managing the cost is really a

02:09:26.560 --> 02:09:29.560
matter for for the developer.

02:09:31.199 --> 02:09:34.199
 councelor Tamman.

02:09:34.400 --> 02:09:37.175
So obviously um looking at

02:09:37.199 --> 02:09:39.175
contamination, we've got the land and

02:09:39.199 --> 02:09:42.135
then we've got the water. So and I

02:09:42.159 --> 02:09:44.215
understand that the water has never been

02:09:44.239 --> 02:09:47.239
really  cleaned or decontaminated. So

02:09:47.920 --> 02:09:50.615
is that the the water where the boats

02:09:50.639 --> 02:09:52.936
are? Is that also part of the

02:09:52.960 --> 02:09:54.456
contamination of the way we look at it

02:09:54.480 --> 02:09:57.336
or is it just the land content around

02:09:57.360 --> 02:10:00.360
the water?

02:10:01.599 --> 02:10:04.456
Through you may um

02:10:04.480 --> 02:10:07.480
it's known it's known that  this site

02:10:07.760 --> 02:10:10.296
when it was developed um that used

02:10:10.320 --> 02:10:13.175
imported soil and that imported soil was

02:10:13.199 --> 02:10:15.655
contaminated. It's also known that there

02:10:15.679 --> 02:10:17.976
is contamination in the basin of the

02:10:18.000 --> 02:10:21.000
marina. 

02:10:21.119 --> 02:10:23.976
and that's contaminated partly through

02:10:24.000 --> 02:10:27.000
land uses uses over time. The

02:10:28.960 --> 02:10:31.496
in going to the market, we're expecting

02:10:31.520 --> 02:10:34.215
um interest from professional developers

02:10:34.239 --> 02:10:37.239
and operators of marinas.

02:10:37.920 --> 02:10:40.856
It's it's within what they usually do to

02:10:40.880 --> 02:10:43.095
deal with with development including

02:10:43.119 --> 02:10:45.976
contaminated soil, including um

02:10:46.000 --> 02:10:47.496
contaminated

02:10:47.520 --> 02:10:49.175
u

02:10:49.199 --> 02:10:50.695
basins

02:10:50.719 --> 02:10:52.856
 and managing that and dredging that

02:10:52.880 --> 02:10:55.256
is part of what they do in the ordinary

02:10:55.280 --> 02:10:58.280
course of of their business.

02:10:58.400 --> 02:11:00.856
So whilst it's a concern,  whilst it's

02:11:00.880 --> 02:11:03.095
a challenge for the site,  it's

02:11:03.119 --> 02:11:04.296
something that certainly needs to be

02:11:04.320 --> 02:11:06.695
managed.  we're making people aware of

02:11:06.719 --> 02:11:09.719
it. U it's a historical issue. Um it's

02:11:10.560 --> 02:11:13.336
not something that we're seeing is an an

02:11:13.360 --> 02:11:15.336
obstacle that can't be can't be dealt

02:11:15.360 --> 02:11:17.336
with.

02:11:17.360 --> 02:11:19.816
Councelor Console,

02:11:19.840 --> 02:11:22.215
thank you. One item I really enjoyed in

02:11:22.239 --> 02:11:24.536
the previous iterations is was the

02:11:24.560 --> 02:11:26.856
bridge. I understand the limitations and

02:11:26.880 --> 02:11:28.856
why it's being proposed to not be there,

02:11:28.880 --> 02:11:31.880
but what it allowed for was that that 

02:11:32.000 --> 02:11:35.000
back part along the open water was very

02:11:35.920 --> 02:11:37.416
accessible to the public and it would

02:11:37.440 --> 02:11:39.416
have been increased from what people can

02:11:39.440 --> 02:11:42.055
access. Now I've seen the document that

02:11:42.079 --> 02:11:45.079
it has um a little bit called

02:11:46.320 --> 02:11:49.175
verge/landscape/

02:11:49.199 --> 02:11:51.095
public circulation seaw wall and

02:11:51.119 --> 02:11:53.896
services in this sliver but it's it's so

02:11:53.920 --> 02:11:56.695
small that it's not really spelled out.

02:11:56.719 --> 02:11:59.416
Is this something that we could um make

02:11:59.440 --> 02:12:02.296
more prominent to suggest that that is

02:12:02.320 --> 02:12:04.055
the intent is that people would still be

02:12:04.079 --> 02:12:06.376
able to access that area because if it's

02:12:06.400 --> 02:12:08.536
not louder, I think that it's going to

02:12:08.560 --> 02:12:10.776
be lost and that's where the public

02:12:10.800 --> 02:12:12.695
expectation

02:12:12.719 --> 02:12:15.416
 has been in the previous iteration.

02:12:15.440 --> 02:12:18.440
one part

02:12:19.440 --> 02:12:21.655
through you may  there's certainly no

02:12:21.679 --> 02:12:24.296
intention that that public access

02:12:24.320 --> 02:12:27.320
generally  is lost.  so that to be

02:12:28.480 --> 02:12:31.480
clear um the deletion is around  the

02:12:33.280 --> 02:12:36.055
need to consider a bridge over the inlet

02:12:36.079 --> 02:12:38.776
canal.

02:12:38.800 --> 02:12:41.095
the um

02:12:41.119 --> 02:12:43.016
in in in

02:12:43.040 --> 02:12:46.040
terms of making it more clear  from

02:12:46.320 --> 02:12:49.320
memory the resolution gives  the CEO

02:12:49.840 --> 02:12:52.296
 the ability to make changes to the

02:12:52.320 --> 02:12:54.856
site brief in including editorial type

02:12:54.880 --> 02:12:57.016
changes. So if that's something that we

02:12:57.040 --> 02:12:58.536
can deal with as an editorial matter

02:12:58.560 --> 02:13:01.095
perhaps it could be dealt with that way.

02:13:01.119 --> 02:13:02.615
Thank you

02:13:02.639 --> 02:13:04.695
Mayor. Happy I'm happy to have a look

02:13:04.719 --> 02:13:07.719
into that with officers.

02:13:08.239 --> 02:13:09.976
Any council any further questions?

02:13:10.000 --> 02:13:12.936
Councelor Tamar.

02:13:12.960 --> 02:13:15.960
So the two u items that were part of the

02:13:17.679 --> 02:13:19.416
previous

02:13:19.440 --> 02:13:22.440
 proposal or that was accepted. There

02:13:22.480 --> 02:13:24.695
were two things that  where the

02:13:24.719 --> 02:13:26.695
committee sort of created you know a bit

02:13:26.719 --> 02:13:29.336
of noise around is one private beach and

02:13:29.360 --> 02:13:31.256
secondly helipad.

02:13:31.280 --> 02:13:33.095


02:13:33.119 --> 02:13:36.119
 what we are doing you know today if

02:13:36.560 --> 02:13:39.560
we go ahead can the future um  tender

02:13:42.159 --> 02:13:44.215
include an helipad and privatize the

02:13:44.239 --> 02:13:47.016
beach like it was going to happen with

02:13:47.040 --> 02:13:50.040
the current operators.

02:13:54.159 --> 02:13:56.936
 through you may there's

02:13:56.960 --> 02:13:59.736
there's nothing in the site brief 

02:13:59.760 --> 02:14:01.976
that calls for either of those two

02:14:02.000 --> 02:14:05.000
things. The side brief is remains the

02:14:06.880 --> 02:14:09.496
fundamental document a fundamental

02:14:09.520 --> 02:14:12.520
document for the um the tender and the

02:14:13.040 --> 02:14:15.336
evaluation process.

02:14:15.360 --> 02:14:17.175
So

02:14:17.199 --> 02:14:19.976
a a core thing without going into the

02:14:20.000 --> 02:14:22.615
details of an evaluation plan, the core

02:14:22.639 --> 02:14:25.639
thing that will be considered in

02:14:27.520 --> 02:14:30.520
evaluating any bids is how they advance

02:14:31.280 --> 02:14:34.280
and reconcile with the site brief.

02:14:37.760 --> 02:14:39.575
Any further questions? Councelor

02:14:39.599 --> 02:14:41.575
Halliday.

02:14:41.599 --> 02:14:43.095
 thank you, Mayor. There's been a

02:14:43.119 --> 02:14:46.119
little bit of um commentary a little bit

02:14:46.639 --> 02:14:49.639
 about that this is a a rerun of the

02:14:50.560 --> 02:14:53.560
previous um the previous tender process

02:14:54.079 --> 02:14:56.615
and obviously we've seen some changes

02:14:56.639 --> 02:14:59.575
here but can you please explain how the

02:14:59.599 --> 02:15:02.599
approach to the market and the the the

02:15:02.719 --> 02:15:04.695
options that we're offering the market

02:15:04.719 --> 02:15:07.175
are different than what we offered them

02:15:07.199 --> 02:15:10.199
in the previous  you know kind of um

02:15:10.400 --> 02:15:13.400
tender process.

02:15:15.360 --> 02:15:18.215
through you may.

02:15:18.239 --> 02:15:21.016
So the intention is  to go to the

02:15:21.040 --> 02:15:23.575
market in two key stages. Firstly, the

02:15:23.599 --> 02:15:26.456
request for information  followed by

02:15:26.480 --> 02:15:29.175
the request for tender. Before we even

02:15:29.199 --> 02:15:31.896
get to that, we will be alerting  the

02:15:31.920 --> 02:15:34.296
world of this opportunity that and that

02:15:34.320 --> 02:15:37.175
we are intending to commence this 

02:15:37.199 --> 02:15:40.199
public competitive market process.

02:15:45.840 --> 02:15:48.840
What we're the site brief  has a

02:15:50.480 --> 02:15:53.016
vision, has objectives, has some

02:15:53.040 --> 02:15:56.040
parameters, criteria for the development

02:15:57.440 --> 02:16:00.440
that that document  remains core to

02:16:01.119 --> 02:16:03.256
that whole process.

02:16:03.280 --> 02:16:05.896
 it anticipates

02:16:05.920 --> 02:16:08.920
and and as council has clearly signaled

02:16:09.599 --> 02:16:11.816
for instance through its council plan,

02:16:11.840 --> 02:16:13.816
it intends to go to the market. It

02:16:13.840 --> 02:16:16.615
intends to secure a long-term lease.

02:16:16.639 --> 02:16:19.416
Nothing changes there. What we're

02:16:19.440 --> 02:16:21.896
proposing is that, and we flagged this

02:16:21.920 --> 02:16:24.920
in this  site brief version 1.1, this

02:16:26.159 --> 02:16:28.776
rec-calibrated site brief

02:16:28.800 --> 02:16:31.800
that um that's our clear intention that

02:16:32.800 --> 02:16:35.800
remains.  we are seeking long-term a

02:16:36.639 --> 02:16:39.639
long-term  tenant.

02:16:39.840 --> 02:16:41.415
And here's the here's the important

02:16:41.439 --> 02:16:43.415
change.

02:16:43.439 --> 02:16:46.439
or the important addition to either

02:16:46.479 --> 02:16:48.776
develop the site according to the site

02:16:48.800 --> 02:16:50.695
brief.

02:16:50.719 --> 02:16:52.216
So realize the site brief through

02:16:52.240 --> 02:16:55.240
development or alternatively

02:16:56.080 --> 02:16:59.080
and and this is triggered if we don't

02:16:59.359 --> 02:17:02.359
receive bids that are evaluated as being

02:17:04.080 --> 02:17:05.575
sufficiently

02:17:05.599 --> 02:17:08.599
of a standard sufficiently acceptable in

02:17:08.800 --> 02:17:11.800
achieving the site brief. Then we're

02:17:12.399 --> 02:17:15.399
also evaluating  bids that are not for

02:17:16.880 --> 02:17:19.415
development or not purely development.

02:17:19.439 --> 02:17:21.655
They're they're based on operating. So

02:17:21.679 --> 02:17:24.216
it's an operating lease.

02:17:24.240 --> 02:17:27.176
With operating um the site would still

02:17:27.200 --> 02:17:30.056
come obligations to observe for instance

02:17:30.080 --> 02:17:33.080
an asset management plan. And that way

02:17:33.519 --> 02:17:36.519
in the longer term the site um the

02:17:36.639 --> 02:17:39.016
objectives and vision of the site brief

02:17:39.040 --> 02:17:41.176
 have got potential to be realized.

02:17:41.200 --> 02:17:44.200
Yes, it'll take a a longer time um but

02:17:45.920 --> 02:17:47.655
we're still advancing the site brief in

02:17:47.679 --> 02:17:49.896
that way through operation but the

02:17:49.920 --> 02:17:52.695
intention is to be very clear that the

02:17:52.719 --> 02:17:54.615
intent of City of Port Phillip and the

02:17:54.639 --> 02:17:56.136
strong preference of City of Port

02:17:56.160 --> 02:17:58.936
Phillip is to obtain is to secure a

02:17:58.960 --> 02:18:01.960
development lease. However,  there's

02:18:02.319 --> 02:18:04.535
this alternative option too. So people,

02:18:04.559 --> 02:18:07.559
we do also welcome um serious 

02:18:08.479 --> 02:18:11.479
operating lease proposals.

02:18:12.880 --> 02:18:14.375
Brian T, you wish to

02:18:14.399 --> 02:18:17.399
just to um

02:18:17.519 --> 02:18:20.519
add three in there that  Anony's

02:18:21.519 --> 02:18:24.375
already identified the um international

02:18:24.399 --> 02:18:27.399
search component.  the

02:18:28.319 --> 02:18:30.856
 significant additional information

02:18:30.880 --> 02:18:33.495
available to the market that will derisk

02:18:33.519 --> 02:18:36.216
the market so they can have a a clearer

02:18:36.240 --> 02:18:38.455
sense of what the risks are and how to

02:18:38.479 --> 02:18:41.415
accommodate those in any proposals. But

02:18:41.439 --> 02:18:43.575
the third element is around the

02:18:43.599 --> 02:18:45.415
descoping of some of the requirements

02:18:45.439 --> 02:18:48.439
that were in the former proposal. Um

02:18:48.639 --> 02:18:51.639
those go to the requirement to consider

02:18:52.080 --> 02:18:54.856
the bridge which has been  identified.

02:18:54.880 --> 02:18:57.880
 the requirement to build 100 venue 

02:18:58.800 --> 02:19:00.695
and the requirement to consider the

02:19:00.719 --> 02:19:03.719
removal of the petrol station. Those 

02:19:04.399 --> 02:19:06.455
proposed elements in the recommendation

02:19:06.479 --> 02:19:09.256
will make um the proposal more

02:19:09.280 --> 02:19:12.280
attractive. we anticipate to the market.

02:19:15.359 --> 02:19:18.359
Any further questions?

02:19:20.160 --> 02:19:23.160
Well done.  so if there's no further

02:19:23.599 --> 02:19:25.976
questions, is there a mover that is

02:19:26.000 --> 02:19:28.136
moved councelor or move the

02:19:28.160 --> 02:19:29.495
recommendation or something different?

02:19:29.519 --> 02:19:32.136
I just want to move a slightly amended

02:19:32.160 --> 02:19:34.375
recommendation

02:19:34.399 --> 02:19:37.399
if um that can be put on screen.

02:19:47.359 --> 02:19:50.359
And then you'll need to read your

02:19:51.280 --> 02:19:53.335
additions, council to man, all your

02:19:53.359 --> 02:19:54.136
modifications.

02:19:54.160 --> 02:19:55.976
Can I move? Can I actually go closer to

02:19:56.000 --> 02:19:57.415
the screen? I can't see it properly.

02:19:57.439 --> 02:20:00.439
You certainly can.

02:20:04.240 --> 02:20:07.176
You can. Councelor Halliday is kindly

02:20:07.200 --> 02:20:09.335
letting you borrow his microphone.

02:20:09.359 --> 02:20:10.936
That's right. So I would like to add an

02:20:10.960 --> 02:20:13.656
item 3.4. Note the market process

02:20:13.680 --> 02:20:15.576
intended proceed through market seating,

02:20:15.600 --> 02:20:17.256
a request for information and a request

02:20:17.280 --> 02:20:19.415
for tender and then the next council

02:20:19.439 --> 02:20:20.856
briefing will occur following the

02:20:20.880 --> 02:20:23.016
request for information stage unless an

02:20:23.040 --> 02:20:26.040
earlier briefing is required.

02:20:26.319 --> 02:20:29.319
Great.  that therefore has your

02:20:30.960 --> 02:20:33.496
wishing to move that councelor Thomann.

02:20:33.520 --> 02:20:36.520
Yes. Is there a seconder?

02:20:38.560 --> 02:20:40.536
Um seconded councelor Crawford. Thank

02:20:40.560 --> 02:20:43.560
you. Does the mover wish to speak?

02:20:45.280 --> 02:20:48.280
Yes, obviously we we do have a marina.

02:20:49.120 --> 02:20:50.536
Whatever we've got to do, there is a

02:20:50.560 --> 02:20:52.216
marina there and we have to make sure

02:20:52.240 --> 02:20:55.240
that it is managed properly. Um so I we

02:20:57.760 --> 02:21:00.455
have gone through 

02:21:00.479 --> 02:21:03.256
seven briefings in the last year or

02:21:03.280 --> 02:21:06.280
something.  and  so I think there's

02:21:07.439 --> 02:21:10.439
a lot of thoughts and has gone through

02:21:10.640 --> 02:21:13.640
this new um tender this new tender

02:21:14.319 --> 02:21:16.455
whatever you want to call it. thought 

02:21:16.479 --> 02:21:18.696
thank the officers for the the work

02:21:18.720 --> 02:21:21.096
they've done especially Anthony putting

02:21:21.120 --> 02:21:23.896
a a sort of a new eye to the proposal

02:21:23.920 --> 02:21:26.856
with someone you know who is you know

02:21:26.880 --> 02:21:28.936
sort of more a real estate person than

02:21:28.960 --> 02:21:30.696
just

02:21:30.720 --> 02:21:33.176
um you know just a

02:21:33.200 --> 02:21:34.856
you know someone with a yeah a real

02:21:34.880 --> 02:21:37.880
estate eye. So um

02:21:38.880 --> 02:21:41.335
I hope it is successful but the reason I

02:21:41.359 --> 02:21:43.976
have put that in is that if through the

02:21:44.000 --> 02:21:45.816
process

02:21:45.840 --> 02:21:48.840
there's a problem um I would like

02:21:49.120 --> 02:21:50.776
council to look potentially at other

02:21:50.800 --> 02:21:53.800
options  but I do hope that with all

02:21:55.600 --> 02:21:58.600
the work and the international search we

02:21:59.200 --> 02:22:02.200
will find um interest of the market.

02:22:02.880 --> 02:22:05.880
Obviously, it is a great  asset. It is

02:22:07.280 --> 02:22:10.280
well patronized. It's full. It's got a

02:22:10.560 --> 02:22:12.295
petrol station. It's the only petrol

02:22:12.319 --> 02:22:15.319
station on 11 kilometers on on the

02:22:15.359 --> 02:22:18.359
foreshore. It's got a very successful

02:22:19.359 --> 02:22:22.216
 place with over summer with lots of

02:22:22.240 --> 02:22:25.240
events. Um, so it is, you know, I don't

02:22:25.280 --> 02:22:27.096
want to turn it to the centrope or

02:22:27.120 --> 02:22:30.120
something like that. But, um, why not if

02:22:30.479 --> 02:22:33.256
if the right operator comes along. Um,

02:22:33.280 --> 02:22:36.280
so I wish you well and I keep my fingers

02:22:37.680 --> 02:22:40.056
crossed. I'm an optimist. You know, it's

02:22:40.080 --> 02:22:41.656
not because it's failed the last time

02:22:41.680 --> 02:22:43.896
that it's going to fail this time. So

02:22:43.920 --> 02:22:46.136
with the work that has done in and has

02:22:46.160 --> 02:22:49.160
gone in and with a lot more details into

02:22:49.680 --> 02:22:52.680
the into the proposal I hope that we

02:22:53.359 --> 02:22:55.736
will attract interest and then

02:22:55.760 --> 02:22:57.896
eventually at the end of this current

02:22:57.920 --> 02:23:00.696
lease which is 28 hopefully we can find

02:23:00.720 --> 02:23:03.720
an operator that will make this place

02:23:05.200 --> 02:23:08.200
sorry to say great again.

02:23:09.520 --> 02:23:11.736
Thank you. Movered  the mover

02:23:11.760 --> 02:23:13.256
councelor Thomann seconder. Do you wish

02:23:13.280 --> 02:23:15.335
to speak? Councelor Crawford

02:23:15.359 --> 02:23:17.656
don't know if great is a word I have

02:23:17.680 --> 02:23:19.576
ever used to describe the marina

02:23:19.600 --> 02:23:21.816
functional and useful yes but maybe not

02:23:21.840 --> 02:23:23.976
great. Um, look, I think when we

02:23:24.000 --> 02:23:26.375
originally did this site brief, um, and

02:23:26.399 --> 02:23:28.056
I have the benefit of being here this

02:23:28.080 --> 02:23:30.375
whole time, it was a very different time

02:23:30.399 --> 02:23:32.056
economically,

02:23:32.080 --> 02:23:34.375
um, just in the world at large. What was

02:23:34.399 --> 02:23:36.375
a priority? And I know that the

02:23:36.399 --> 02:23:38.136
community and the council group, we

02:23:38.160 --> 02:23:40.616
dreamed big,

02:23:40.640 --> 02:23:42.696
although I never dreamed big around a

02:23:42.720 --> 02:23:44.696
bridge. And I'm really glad that it's

02:23:44.720 --> 02:23:45.896
being removed. I think I was the only

02:23:45.920 --> 02:23:48.536
one vote against it. But I do think we

02:23:48.560 --> 02:23:51.560
need to reassess and look at how do we

02:23:52.399 --> 02:23:54.696
maintain a functioning marina but also

02:23:54.720 --> 02:23:57.335
then get some benefits for our community

02:23:57.359 --> 02:23:58.856
and it does need to be a little

02:23:58.880 --> 02:24:00.455
different from where we started given

02:24:00.479 --> 02:24:03.479
that so much time has passed and  and

02:24:03.760 --> 02:24:06.216
so much has changed. Um I think this

02:24:06.240 --> 02:24:08.616
site brief does take um addresses some

02:24:08.640 --> 02:24:11.496
of the kind of as I said the bridge was

02:24:11.520 --> 02:24:13.656
never feasible. No one ever wanted it

02:24:13.680 --> 02:24:16.455
other than council laws.  and they

02:24:16.479 --> 02:24:18.776
told us at the time it wasn't possible

02:24:18.800 --> 02:24:21.415
doable  and would council would have

02:24:21.439 --> 02:24:22.696
to pay for it themselves if they ever

02:24:22.720 --> 02:24:24.216
want to and actually removed a lot of

02:24:24.240 --> 02:24:27.240
public space but the council at the time

02:24:28.479 --> 02:24:30.455
supported it. So I think removing it

02:24:30.479 --> 02:24:31.976
just moves something that just gets in

02:24:32.000 --> 02:24:34.056
the way of finding a good p  a good

02:24:34.080 --> 02:24:36.696
group to take over and and hopefully

02:24:36.720 --> 02:24:39.720
revitalize the um marina  in cards to

02:24:40.800 --> 02:24:42.776
the the space for the coast guards. We

02:24:42.800 --> 02:24:44.375
do want to work closely with you. it

02:24:44.399 --> 02:24:45.816
might just be a little bit different to

02:24:45.840 --> 02:24:48.295
what we originally envvisaged. Um I

02:24:48.319 --> 02:24:50.056
think one of the things that that has

02:24:50.080 --> 02:24:51.896
come to light over the last few years is

02:24:51.920 --> 02:24:54.056
multi-purpose spaces like no one group

02:24:54.080 --> 02:24:55.736
can have one thing and it might be just

02:24:55.760 --> 02:24:58.536
being smarter with how we um plan and

02:24:58.560 --> 02:25:01.335
you know those kind of spaces but um I

02:25:01.359 --> 02:25:03.096
think there's room to move on that it is

02:25:03.120 --> 02:25:05.176
about possibly you know reimagining

02:25:05.200 --> 02:25:07.335
exactly what it looked like back when it

02:25:07.359 --> 02:25:09.496
was 10 years or 8 years ago. So I'm

02:25:09.520 --> 02:25:11.016
happy to support this site brief. I

02:25:11.040 --> 02:25:12.295
think it's more practical. I think

02:25:12.319 --> 02:25:15.319
keeping the petrol station there for the

02:25:15.600 --> 02:25:18.375
um for the  tenants to take on to

02:25:18.399 --> 02:25:21.256
allow that you know that  reimagining

02:25:21.280 --> 02:25:23.576
growth and obviously the sustainability

02:25:23.600 --> 02:25:26.136
of the um of the marina in the current

02:25:26.160 --> 02:25:28.295
situation is the right thing to do.

02:25:28.319 --> 02:25:30.056
Thank you councelor Crawford. Any other

02:25:30.080 --> 02:25:33.080
councilors wish to speak?

02:25:34.160 --> 02:25:37.160
Councelor Halliday.

02:25:38.160 --> 02:25:39.816
Um,

02:25:39.840 --> 02:25:42.840
this project vexes me. Um, as usual, 

02:25:45.520 --> 02:25:48.520
and I I'm not sure which way I'll go on

02:25:49.200 --> 02:25:52.200
this tonight. I think that it is it is a

02:25:53.120 --> 02:25:55.096
a piece of infrastructure that has been

02:25:55.120 --> 02:25:58.120
part of um, Silda for some time. Um, but

02:25:59.120 --> 02:26:01.816
also it for us right now is a huge risk

02:26:01.840 --> 02:26:04.840
and a huge liability for us.  and even

02:26:05.359 --> 02:26:08.359
if the site brief is realized um sorry

02:26:09.200 --> 02:26:12.200
for pointing at you Anthony but even if

02:26:12.319 --> 02:26:15.319
the site risk is  brief is realized um

02:26:17.120 --> 02:26:19.656
we'll be putting massive um

02:26:19.680 --> 02:26:22.375
infrastructure on our foreshore that

02:26:22.399 --> 02:26:24.216
once people see it I think they will be

02:26:24.240 --> 02:26:27.240
very um upset about it. Um, and this is

02:26:27.840 --> 02:26:30.375
in a world that is changed from where it

02:26:30.399 --> 02:26:32.616
was last time we went out to the market

02:26:32.640 --> 02:26:34.455
and where it was when we first built

02:26:34.479 --> 02:26:37.479
this. Um, so I am skeptical um that

02:26:39.040 --> 02:26:42.040
someone will, you know, arrive um and

02:26:43.200 --> 02:26:46.200
decide to put what could be hundreds of

02:26:46.640 --> 02:26:48.616
millions of dollars into this particular

02:26:48.640 --> 02:26:51.640
site. Um, and I think my

02:26:52.720 --> 02:26:55.720
personal feeling here is that the city,

02:26:56.640 --> 02:26:58.455
the residents of the city of Port

02:26:58.479 --> 02:27:01.479
Phillip should not be on the hook to pay

02:27:01.760 --> 02:27:04.616
for effectively the private benefit of a

02:27:04.640 --> 02:27:07.640
small number of people um who who have

02:27:08.080 --> 02:27:11.080
the opportunity to use a marina. Um, so

02:27:12.399 --> 02:27:13.816
I'll have a think about how I'm going to

02:27:13.840 --> 02:27:16.840
vote um and see where it goes. But as I

02:27:18.960 --> 02:27:21.960
say, I um I'm skeptical.

02:27:22.399 --> 02:27:24.536
Council consol wish to speak.

02:27:24.560 --> 02:27:25.976
I think it's a great asset. It's so

02:27:26.000 --> 02:27:27.256
great just the activation of our

02:27:27.280 --> 02:27:28.856
foreshore. It's not like these have big

02:27:28.880 --> 02:27:30.776
solid walls and no one can see what's

02:27:30.800 --> 02:27:32.455
going on behind it. Like looking at the

02:27:32.479 --> 02:27:34.295
boats, it's really picturesque. It's

02:27:34.319 --> 02:27:36.056
nice. However, it can be done better.

02:27:36.080 --> 02:27:37.816
And I think that through this process,

02:27:37.840 --> 02:27:39.736
the previous process, we've identified

02:27:39.760 --> 02:27:41.816
that this land, all this area can be

02:27:41.840 --> 02:27:43.896
done much, much better. And I'm

02:27:43.920 --> 02:27:45.896
passionate about being more accessible

02:27:45.920 --> 02:27:48.455
to the community through the initiatives

02:27:48.479 --> 02:27:50.856
of um the space and the increasing open

02:27:50.880 --> 02:27:53.880
space and how Reva has been having so

02:27:54.319 --> 02:27:55.896
many concerts there lately. It's cool.

02:27:55.920 --> 02:27:57.335
It's so great that we have this on our

02:27:57.359 --> 02:28:00.359
for getting tired. It's really run down.

02:28:00.479 --> 02:28:01.896
There's a lot that needs to be fixed and

02:28:01.920 --> 02:28:03.415
of course it has to come with the

02:28:03.439 --> 02:28:06.216
investment that also has a commercial

02:28:06.240 --> 02:28:09.096
arm to pay for it. So, I think state

02:28:09.120 --> 02:28:10.375
council officers have done a really good

02:28:10.399 --> 02:28:12.936
job trying to find the balance here and

02:28:12.960 --> 02:28:15.656
um I I support I'm supportive of what is

02:28:15.680 --> 02:28:18.455
being considered to be removed as 

02:28:18.479 --> 02:28:21.176
some are nice to have or not practical

02:28:21.200 --> 02:28:24.200
um and the petrol station we still need.

02:28:24.240 --> 02:28:25.816
So,

02:28:25.840 --> 02:28:27.656
thank you.

02:28:27.680 --> 02:28:29.335
Thank you, Council Consol. Any other

02:28:29.359 --> 02:28:32.056
councilors wish to speak? Yes, Deputy

02:28:32.080 --> 02:28:35.080
May.

02:28:35.840 --> 02:28:38.840
Thank you.  I'd like to endorse 

02:28:39.760 --> 02:28:42.295
Councelor Consol's comments.  my

02:28:42.319 --> 02:28:44.216
comments are similar. I think it's a

02:28:44.240 --> 02:28:47.096
great asset that needs to be 

02:28:47.120 --> 02:28:50.120
refreshed. Um, a new opportunity for the

02:28:50.720 --> 02:28:53.720
entrepreneurs out there to add to a

02:28:54.720 --> 02:28:57.720
vibrant area of St Kilda. Um, yes,

02:28:58.160 --> 02:28:59.576
people have got boats, but they've

02:28:59.600 --> 02:29:02.056
always had boats and boats go with

02:29:02.080 --> 02:29:05.016
water, funnily enough. So, it's a good

02:29:05.040 --> 02:29:07.816
thing to do.  I believe it would it

02:29:07.840 --> 02:29:10.616
has the potential of being a great asset

02:29:10.640 --> 02:29:13.640
and improving um yet further that area

02:29:15.600 --> 02:29:18.600
of the foreshore. So  I certainly

02:29:18.640 --> 02:29:20.936
endorse it. I I think it's a great idea.

02:29:20.960 --> 02:29:23.960
We need to perhaps dream big and  see

02:29:25.120 --> 02:29:27.736
what we can do. Finally, I've got every

02:29:27.760 --> 02:29:29.576
confidence that our council officers

02:29:29.600 --> 02:29:32.136
will with the systems they're putting in

02:29:32.160 --> 02:29:34.616
place and the procedures get the very

02:29:34.640 --> 02:29:37.016
best outcome for us for the city of Port

02:29:37.040 --> 02:29:40.040
Phillips. So, well done.

02:29:40.960 --> 02:29:42.856
Any other councilors wish to speak?

02:29:42.880 --> 02:29:44.776
Thank you, Deputy Mayor Mes. Any other

02:29:44.800 --> 02:29:47.800
councilors wish to speak to the motion?

02:29:51.120 --> 02:29:53.016
Now other counselors have indicated a

02:29:53.040 --> 02:29:55.176
desire to speak in which case we revert

02:29:55.200 --> 02:29:58.200
to the mover who may wish to close.

02:29:58.479 --> 02:30:00.696
To respond to councelor Halliday's

02:30:00.720 --> 02:30:03.720
thing you know when  in my previous

02:30:03.760 --> 02:30:05.736
incarnation at council we built a skate

02:30:05.760 --> 02:30:08.295
park  people were objecting to it

02:30:08.319 --> 02:30:10.696
because it had no coastal use. So in

02:30:10.720 --> 02:30:12.616
this case a marina obviously is an

02:30:12.640 --> 02:30:15.640
obvious coastal use and um you know it

02:30:16.080 --> 02:30:17.656
it's

02:30:17.680 --> 02:30:19.736
I think we have to give the best shot

02:30:19.760 --> 02:30:22.216
and and you know it is a marina it is a

02:30:22.240 --> 02:30:24.776
working marina it just is a bit tired

02:30:24.800 --> 02:30:26.616
and hopefully

02:30:26.640 --> 02:30:29.640
 like  you know we can find someone

02:30:30.319 --> 02:30:32.856
who can give it the face lift that's

02:30:32.880 --> 02:30:35.880
needed so I and I also would like to 

02:30:36.399 --> 02:30:39.399
thank the coast guards who are there

02:30:39.840 --> 02:30:42.616
making, you know, a great job um through

02:30:42.640 --> 02:30:45.335
the year and especially with the new jet

02:30:45.359 --> 02:30:47.816
ski rules gives you something else to

02:30:47.840 --> 02:30:50.455
do. Um and  hopefully something that

02:30:50.479 --> 02:30:53.479
you you wanted as well. So I hope you

02:30:55.120 --> 02:30:58.056
know as I said we we got a marina. Um

02:30:58.080 --> 02:31:01.080
let's try to do our best to make it

02:31:01.600 --> 02:31:03.415
work.

02:31:03.439 --> 02:31:05.976
The mover has closed the debate and that

02:31:06.000 --> 02:31:08.295
motion is now being put. A show of hands

02:31:08.319 --> 02:31:09.656
to indicate support for the

02:31:09.680 --> 02:31:12.455
recommendation put forward. That is

02:31:12.479 --> 02:31:15.096
councelor Timman, councelor Jay,

02:31:15.120 --> 02:31:16.776
councelor Buckingham, councelor

02:31:16.800 --> 02:31:19.176
Crawford, councelor Consalo, Deputy

02:31:19.200 --> 02:31:21.576
Mayor Mes, and myself, Mayor Mak. All

02:31:21.600 --> 02:31:23.576
those against

02:31:23.600 --> 02:31:25.016
councelor Hardy and councelor

02:31:25.040 --> 02:31:28.040
Halliday. That motion is carried. 72.

02:31:40.479 --> 02:31:43.479
 item 10.2. Thank you,  Ethan for

02:31:44.080 --> 02:31:46.696
answering those questions as well.

02:31:46.720 --> 02:31:49.496
10.2 is our public space strategy annual

02:31:49.520 --> 02:31:52.520
update. Are there any questions for this

02:31:52.560 --> 02:31:55.496
item? Item 10.2.

02:31:55.520 --> 02:31:58.520
Thank you. 10.2. Item 10.2. Any

02:31:59.200 --> 02:32:02.200
questions?

02:32:06.080 --> 02:32:07.496
Yeah. Oh, sorry. Council Heliday, I

02:32:07.520 --> 02:32:09.976
thought you were pointing to the screen.

02:32:10.000 --> 02:32:11.335
Councelor Halliday. Yes.

02:32:11.359 --> 02:32:13.335
Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. Um, just

02:32:13.359 --> 02:32:16.136
wondering here, um,

02:32:16.160 --> 02:32:19.160
I think that, um, Elma Ward has been an

02:32:20.000 --> 02:32:21.736
early beneficiary of the implementation

02:32:21.760 --> 02:32:23.976
of the public space strategy.  and I

02:32:24.000 --> 02:32:26.216
think that's tremendous. One of the

02:32:26.240 --> 02:32:29.240
other areas that, um, was identified 

02:32:29.439 --> 02:32:32.375
in the early work, the technical work

02:32:32.399 --> 02:32:34.455
that underpins this strategy was

02:32:34.479 --> 02:32:37.016
Lakeside Ward. that area along St Kilda

02:32:37.040 --> 02:32:39.176
Road. Um, and I see here that we have

02:32:39.200 --> 02:32:42.200
the Lakeside Place Plan here um, coming

02:32:43.600 --> 02:32:45.976
into the  strategy. I'm just

02:32:46.000 --> 02:32:49.000
wondering what sort of time frame can we

02:32:49.040 --> 02:32:51.576
expect for the development of this

02:32:51.600 --> 02:32:54.600
Lakeside Place plan and maybe what um,

02:32:55.359 --> 02:32:58.359
you know, what what time frame could we

02:32:58.560 --> 02:33:00.455
see for the development of the plan and

02:33:00.479 --> 02:33:03.479
then for potential actions out of it?

02:33:05.359 --> 02:33:07.176
Yep. CEO

02:33:07.200 --> 02:33:09.736
through you, Mayor. Can I clarify

02:33:09.760 --> 02:33:12.760
um this is about the precinct plan for

02:33:13.200 --> 02:33:15.016
the urban forest strategy for Lakeside

02:33:15.040 --> 02:33:16.536
because we're also doing some work

02:33:16.560 --> 02:33:16.856
around

02:33:16.880 --> 02:33:18.776
a

02:33:18.800 --> 02:33:20.375
space, right?

02:33:20.399 --> 02:33:23.399
Yes. Okay. Yep. Sorry.

02:33:24.560 --> 02:33:26.536
Yes. So, I might be able to answer that

02:33:26.560 --> 02:33:28.616
unless the team

02:33:28.640 --> 02:33:30.696
you've got it. Yeah. Great.

02:33:30.720 --> 02:33:32.776
Through you, Mayor. So the time frames

02:33:32.800 --> 02:33:35.016
are currently being confirmed through

02:33:35.040 --> 02:33:38.040
the project business case. Um so it is

02:33:38.880 --> 02:33:41.880
likely that councilors will see a draft

02:33:43.040 --> 02:33:45.016
lakeside place plan later this year

02:33:45.040 --> 02:33:48.040
around October.

02:33:49.760 --> 02:33:52.136
Any further questions for the public

02:33:52.160 --> 02:33:54.936
space strategy annual update?

02:33:54.960 --> 02:33:57.960
Going once, going twice.

02:33:58.080 --> 02:34:01.080
Councelor Timman.

02:34:02.080 --> 02:34:05.080
So my question is um  obviously the

02:34:07.040 --> 02:34:10.040
Blessington Street between   the

02:34:10.399 --> 02:34:12.696
peanut farm and whatever the name of the

02:34:12.720 --> 02:34:15.720
other reserve is um I support  that

02:34:16.880 --> 02:34:18.936
the road stays the road and I think you

02:34:18.960 --> 02:34:20.936
know it's obviously too green it would

02:34:20.960 --> 02:34:22.375
cost a lot of money and I'm sure that

02:34:22.399 --> 02:34:24.056
money could be used elsewhere. So, have

02:34:24.080 --> 02:34:27.080
we   consulted with um the sports

02:34:28.720 --> 02:34:31.096
people and everybody else to make sure

02:34:31.120 --> 02:34:33.415
they're happy with the decision that we

02:34:33.439 --> 02:34:36.439
are making tonight?

02:34:36.640 --> 02:34:38.616
Through you, Mayor. No, we haven't done

02:34:38.640 --> 02:34:41.496
any consultation on the proposal to

02:34:41.520 --> 02:34:43.415
remove the action from the strategy that

02:34:43.439 --> 02:34:45.016
has come from council offic's

02:34:45.040 --> 02:34:48.040
recommendation only.

02:34:50.640 --> 02:34:53.640
Can I maybe can I actually say u that 

02:34:57.520 --> 02:34:59.415
 the clubs are very happy that we make

02:34:59.439 --> 02:35:01.415
that decision. So I thought

02:35:01.439 --> 02:35:02.616
this going to be a question.

02:35:02.640 --> 02:35:05.256
No my question you know obviously my

02:35:05.280 --> 02:35:07.096
question is obviously not aware that the

02:35:07.120 --> 02:35:08.455
clubs are very happy with the decision

02:35:08.479 --> 02:35:10.216
but I would have you know it would have

02:35:10.240 --> 02:35:12.536
been nice for the question to be asked.

02:35:12.560 --> 02:35:15.335
They are very concerned. Um, so my

02:35:15.359 --> 02:35:17.736
question is, my question is, will the

02:35:17.760 --> 02:35:19.496
club be informed of the decision we're

02:35:19.520 --> 02:35:21.335
making tonight? Even if it's after we

02:35:21.359 --> 02:35:24.295
make the decision

02:35:24.319 --> 02:35:25.976
through you, Mayor, yes, council

02:35:26.000 --> 02:35:28.216
officers can inform the Peanut Farm

02:35:28.240 --> 02:35:30.295
Reserve Sports Clubs of the decision if

02:35:30.319 --> 02:35:33.319
that's what councilors make tonight.

02:35:34.640 --> 02:35:37.640
Any further questions?

02:35:40.319 --> 02:35:42.936
In which case there is a recommendation

02:35:42.960 --> 02:35:45.576
before us. Moved. Councelor Halliday.

02:35:45.600 --> 02:35:48.600
Seconded. Councelor Buckingham.

02:35:48.800 --> 02:35:51.800
Does the mover wish to speak?

02:35:52.240 --> 02:35:53.736
I did have my hand up.

02:35:53.760 --> 02:35:55.096
Oh, sorry.

02:35:55.120 --> 02:35:57.096
 sorry, Deputy Mayor. Was that a

02:35:57.120 --> 02:35:59.016
question or to

02:35:59.040 --> 02:36:01.176
 I was wanting to ask a question?

02:36:01.200 --> 02:36:01.736
Yeah, sure.

02:36:01.760 --> 02:36:02.856
Mayor Mon.

02:36:02.880 --> 02:36:05.880
Yep. Yes, please. Well,  without

02:36:06.160 --> 02:36:09.160
prolonging it, but I understand the 

02:36:10.000 --> 02:36:13.000
strategy plan details a period of 2022

02:36:14.080 --> 02:36:17.080
to 2032 and when then looking further

02:36:17.359 --> 02:36:19.896
into the lakeside place plan, which I

02:36:19.920 --> 02:36:21.816
understand will be developed now in

02:36:21.840 --> 02:36:23.335
October

02:36:23.359 --> 02:36:26.359
 up from September this year. Um will

02:36:27.760 --> 02:36:30.536
this place plan have a termination date

02:36:30.560 --> 02:36:33.560
of 32 2032 or is it possible that it

02:36:34.560 --> 02:36:37.560
will be earlier than that time

02:36:42.160 --> 02:36:44.856
through you may um the public space

02:36:44.880 --> 02:36:46.295
strategy sets up a whole lot of

02:36:46.319 --> 02:36:48.776
different policies and plans um and

02:36:48.800 --> 02:36:51.415
those policies and plans have um their

02:36:51.439 --> 02:36:53.896
own timelines. they don't necessarily

02:36:53.920 --> 02:36:56.856
align to the public space strategy. So

02:36:56.880 --> 02:36:58.936
through the development um councilors

02:36:58.960 --> 02:37:01.960
will be updated on the um action the

02:37:02.160 --> 02:37:04.136
proposed action plan for the lakeside

02:37:04.160 --> 02:37:06.616
place plan

02:37:06.640 --> 02:37:08.056
through you CEO.

02:37:08.080 --> 02:37:10.056
Yeah through

02:37:10.080 --> 02:37:12.375
 through you may

02:37:12.399 --> 02:37:14.856
come back and confirm the times on the

02:37:14.880 --> 02:37:16.616
lakeside place plan. I did have a chat

02:37:16.640 --> 02:37:19.176
to the manager who was responsible for

02:37:19.200 --> 02:37:22.200
that um just a couple of days ago and I

02:37:23.040 --> 02:37:24.455
believe that councils will be getting a

02:37:24.479 --> 02:37:26.856
briefing before October. the completion

02:37:26.880 --> 02:37:28.696
might be

02:37:28.720 --> 02:37:31.256
um into October, but  my understanding

02:37:31.280 --> 02:37:34.056
is that's probably the that you will get

02:37:34.080 --> 02:37:35.656
a sense of what it's looking like

02:37:35.680 --> 02:37:38.375
earlier than that. Um

02:37:38.399 --> 02:37:39.816
the 17th of June

02:37:39.840 --> 02:37:42.840
17th of June.  and there is also while

02:37:43.680 --> 02:37:46.056
that will also frame the timing just to

02:37:46.080 --> 02:37:47.976
reassure there has been a budget

02:37:48.000 --> 02:37:49.496
allocation

02:37:49.520 --> 02:37:52.520
included in the um draft  26 27 budget

02:37:55.120 --> 02:37:57.335
for the out years not for the out years

02:37:57.359 --> 02:37:59.976
but for um the next couple of years I

02:38:00.000 --> 02:38:01.335
think I think it's about three or four

02:38:01.359 --> 02:38:03.736
years for implementation so there's a

02:38:03.760 --> 02:38:06.056
budget allowance there  it won't be

02:38:06.080 --> 02:38:08.776
delayed significantly beyond um when the

02:38:08.800 --> 02:38:10.776
plan is finalized we have to get into

02:38:10.800 --> 02:38:12.375
some design and procurement and things

02:38:12.399 --> 02:38:14.696
like that after that. Um, but there is

02:38:14.720 --> 02:38:17.496
an intention once it has been adopted to

02:38:17.520 --> 02:38:19.576
get on with implementation as well and

02:38:19.600 --> 02:38:22.295
there's money for it.

02:38:22.319 --> 02:38:23.096
Thank you.

02:38:23.120 --> 02:38:25.576
Thank you very Thank you.

02:38:25.600 --> 02:38:26.936
Did you have any further questions

02:38:26.960 --> 02:38:29.656
deputy may meas before we move back to

02:38:29.680 --> 02:38:31.896
the debate.

02:38:31.920 --> 02:38:34.295
No, thank you Mayor Megan. Well done.

02:38:34.319 --> 02:38:35.096
Thank you.

02:38:35.120 --> 02:38:37.816
Not a problem. We and we had a seconder.

02:38:37.840 --> 02:38:40.840
So does the mover wish to speak?

02:38:41.520 --> 02:38:43.176
Um

02:38:43.200 --> 02:38:46.200
I forget whether it was six years ago. I

02:38:46.479 --> 02:38:49.479
think the early engagement on the public

02:38:50.080 --> 02:38:53.080
space strategy was my first um deep

02:38:54.080 --> 02:38:56.616
engagement with council um working

02:38:56.640 --> 02:38:59.640
working with Helen. We um proposed a

02:39:00.800 --> 02:39:03.800
whole bunch of projects um that would

02:39:04.319 --> 02:39:07.319
deliver equitable um access to open

02:39:07.439 --> 02:39:10.439
space um in St. Kilder in Bellaclava,

02:39:10.960 --> 02:39:13.016
but also looking at areas like Lakeside

02:39:13.040 --> 02:39:16.040
as well. Um, so

02:39:16.880 --> 02:39:19.176
it's great to see this work progressing

02:39:19.200 --> 02:39:21.576
now on the ground with new spaces and

02:39:21.600 --> 02:39:24.600
I'd also like to extend especially um,

02:39:25.760 --> 02:39:27.736
you know, recognition of the former

02:39:27.760 --> 02:39:30.760
council who actually allocated all the

02:39:30.880 --> 02:39:33.880
budget for the increase in up in open

02:39:34.160 --> 02:39:36.455
space across the the different areas

02:39:36.479 --> 02:39:39.479
whether it's balaclava and kiler um, and

02:39:39.760 --> 02:39:42.616
also into fisherman's ben. So, thank you

02:39:42.640 --> 02:39:45.415
former and  serving counselors for

02:39:45.439 --> 02:39:47.896
doing that.  this is great work um

02:39:47.920 --> 02:39:50.920
that we all benefit from. So, I'm super

02:39:50.960 --> 02:39:53.960
excited to see this work continue.

02:39:54.319 --> 02:39:55.896
Thank you. The mover has spoken. Just a

02:39:55.920 --> 02:39:57.415
second to wish to speak. Councelor

02:39:57.439 --> 02:39:58.616
Buckingham.

02:39:58.640 --> 02:40:01.640
 I'm really happy to be seconding 

02:40:01.680 --> 02:40:04.536
the recommendation tonight, the motion

02:40:04.560 --> 02:40:06.375
tonight. I think this work is so

02:40:06.399 --> 02:40:09.016
important. um particularly all of our

02:40:09.040 --> 02:40:10.856
wards, but particularly Balaclava ward

02:40:10.880 --> 02:40:13.576
has a real shortage of um open space and

02:40:13.600 --> 02:40:15.736
it's used for so many different purposes

02:40:15.760 --> 02:40:18.760
and this plan really sets us up for how

02:40:18.960 --> 02:40:21.960
um we can live together and make the

02:40:22.080 --> 02:40:24.455
most of the limited space that we have

02:40:24.479 --> 02:40:26.136
got and I'm particularly excited about

02:40:26.160 --> 02:40:28.776
the ripenly place plan that has um

02:40:28.800 --> 02:40:30.856
actually gone out for consultation right

02:40:30.880 --> 02:40:33.880
now. anyone listening along um you know

02:40:34.560 --> 02:40:36.375
you can jump online and and give us your

02:40:36.399 --> 02:40:38.216
feedback about that plan that we'll see

02:40:38.240 --> 02:40:40.216
an uplift of the Bernard Gay Gardens and

02:40:40.240 --> 02:40:42.295
the surrounding area around the Ripenley

02:40:42.319 --> 02:40:44.616
village um and significant greening

02:40:44.640 --> 02:40:47.640
around that area where the space is so

02:40:47.840 --> 02:40:50.840
limited. Um and I think the the success

02:40:51.280 --> 02:40:54.136
of the plan is borne out in our success

02:40:54.160 --> 02:40:56.776
of the pick my park program that um you

02:40:56.800 --> 02:40:59.335
know the state government looking at

02:40:59.359 --> 02:41:02.359
ways of greening um and creating more

02:41:02.560 --> 02:41:05.560
open space picked so many of our parks

02:41:05.760 --> 02:41:07.976
in our municipality and are investing in

02:41:08.000 --> 02:41:09.415
them. So I think that's just an

02:41:09.439 --> 02:41:12.056
indication that this plan is um worth

02:41:12.080 --> 02:41:13.976
investing in and worth continuing and

02:41:14.000 --> 02:41:16.536
supporting. So I'm very um keen to

02:41:16.560 --> 02:41:18.776
support it tonight.

02:41:18.800 --> 02:41:21.496
Thank you. The second has now spoken.

02:41:21.520 --> 02:41:23.496
Any other counselors wish to speak to

02:41:23.520 --> 02:41:26.056
the item.

02:41:26.080 --> 02:41:27.496
Councelor Crawford.

02:41:27.520 --> 02:41:28.616
 I know we've got a lot to get

02:41:28.640 --> 02:41:29.976
through. I just want to say thank you to

02:41:30.000 --> 02:41:32.056
all the people who over the years have

02:41:32.080 --> 02:41:35.080
advocated for you know the various parks

02:41:35.439 --> 02:41:38.439
green ideasing. Um you know this

02:41:38.560 --> 02:41:40.136
councilors may have decided but it was

02:41:40.160 --> 02:41:42.295
it was a collective effort of officers,

02:41:42.319 --> 02:41:44.295
community and counselors to get to this

02:41:44.319 --> 02:41:46.616
point. So thank you.

02:41:46.640 --> 02:41:48.696
Any other counselors wish to speak?

02:41:48.720 --> 02:41:51.720
Thank you, councelor Crawford.

02:41:52.160 --> 02:41:55.160
No other counselors wish to speak. In

02:41:56.399 --> 02:41:59.399
which case does the mover wish to close.

02:42:00.720 --> 02:42:03.016
 just briefly echoing  councelor

02:42:03.040 --> 02:42:04.856
Crawford's  gratitude to the officers

02:42:04.880 --> 02:42:06.295
who are going to do all the work on the

02:42:06.319 --> 02:42:08.936
ground and get these public spaces um

02:42:08.960 --> 02:42:10.536
you know actually delivered for us. So

02:42:10.560 --> 02:42:13.560
thank you all for that. The mover has

02:42:13.600 --> 02:42:14.936
closed the motion and therefore the

02:42:14.960 --> 02:42:16.375
motion is going to be put. Can we have a

02:42:16.399 --> 02:42:18.856
show of hands indicating support for

02:42:18.880 --> 02:42:21.880
this notice of motion that sorry for

02:42:21.920 --> 02:42:23.415
this motion? This is carried

02:42:23.439 --> 02:42:25.576
unanimously.

02:42:25.600 --> 02:42:27.816
Well done.

02:42:27.840 --> 02:42:30.840
That takes us now to item 11.1 the draft

02:42:31.280 --> 02:42:33.816
multicultural strategy. Any questions

02:42:33.840 --> 02:42:36.840
for officers for this item?

02:42:38.319 --> 02:42:41.319
Yes, councelor Bucky.

02:42:41.439 --> 02:42:44.439
 what plans do council have? Um so I

02:42:45.760 --> 02:42:48.696
note that this is now going

02:42:48.720 --> 02:42:50.776
out for community

02:42:50.800 --> 02:42:53.800
in further um community engagement. How

02:42:53.920 --> 02:42:55.256
are we going to ensure that

02:42:55.280 --> 02:42:56.936
multicultural communities, people with

02:42:56.960 --> 02:42:58.856
English as a second language have an

02:42:58.880 --> 02:43:01.880
opportunity to provide

02:43:03.600 --> 02:43:05.576
for you Mayor and thank you councelor.

02:43:05.600 --> 02:43:07.496
Um, similar to the first phase of

02:43:07.520 --> 02:43:09.576
engagement, this round of engagement

02:43:09.600 --> 02:43:11.415
will include translated materials in a

02:43:11.439 --> 02:43:13.096
number of key languages, specifically

02:43:13.120 --> 02:43:15.656
around  multicultural groups who have

02:43:15.680 --> 02:43:17.496
older residents who may not be able to

02:43:17.520 --> 02:43:19.576
access the other forms of community

02:43:19.600 --> 02:43:21.415
engagement material or online

02:43:21.439 --> 02:43:23.576
translations and those sorts of um,

02:43:23.600 --> 02:43:26.600
resources that are available. Um in

02:43:26.640 --> 02:43:29.640
addition there's also um some targeted

02:43:30.399 --> 02:43:33.176
engagement with groups specifically um

02:43:33.200 --> 02:43:35.656
and  the co-design approach from the

02:43:35.680 --> 02:43:37.816
phase one engagement will continue and

02:43:37.840 --> 02:43:39.415
some of those members participate in

02:43:39.439 --> 02:43:42.439
that process with interpreters.

02:43:43.279 --> 02:43:45.896
Any further questions?

02:43:45.920 --> 02:43:48.920
Councelor Jay

02:43:50.560 --> 02:43:53.560
um just wanted to understand

02:43:54.880 --> 02:43:56.136
how do we engage our

02:43:56.160 --> 02:43:59.160
non-English-speaking residents?

02:44:01.040 --> 02:44:02.216
You're going to say you just answered

02:44:02.240 --> 02:44:04.375
that and I wasn't listening. Are you

02:44:04.399 --> 02:44:06.536
I wasn't going to say that but through

02:44:06.560 --> 02:44:08.056
you Mayor. Sorry. Um

02:44:08.080 --> 02:44:10.375
I I literally picked up on that while I

02:44:10.399 --> 02:44:12.375
was while I was looking through

02:44:12.399 --> 02:44:15.255
everything. Um, I think just to give it

02:44:15.279 --> 02:44:17.335
some context, it's a bit fresh for for

02:44:17.359 --> 02:44:20.056
us along St. Kilder Road. So many

02:44:20.080 --> 02:44:23.080
diverse residents, so hard to get to,

02:44:23.120 --> 02:44:25.736
not just  through the languaging, but

02:44:25.760 --> 02:44:28.056
through the location. So

02:44:28.080 --> 02:44:29.816
maybe councelor J, it might be a

02:44:29.840 --> 02:44:32.840
question. How do we engage non 

02:44:33.040 --> 02:44:34.936
English-sp speakaking speakers in

02:44:34.960 --> 02:44:37.656
high-rise diverse in urban density in

02:44:37.680 --> 02:44:40.136
urban dense environment?

02:44:40.160 --> 02:44:42.136
 thank you and through you, Mayor. 

02:44:42.160 --> 02:44:44.936
so in in the phase one engagement we had

02:44:44.960 --> 02:44:47.016
um direct targeted popup in those

02:44:47.040 --> 02:44:50.040
locations including um a youth offices

02:44:50.319 --> 02:44:53.176
um present to do surveys with people in

02:44:53.200 --> 02:44:56.200
person. Um so similarly this time

02:44:56.240 --> 02:44:57.896
through the phase one engagement we've

02:44:57.920 --> 02:45:00.375
collected the contact details of all the

02:45:00.399 --> 02:45:01.816
people who are engaged in phase one and

02:45:01.840 --> 02:45:04.840
one of the primary um  focus for phase

02:45:05.359 --> 02:45:07.415
2 engagement is to ensure that we loop

02:45:07.439 --> 02:45:10.216
back to those people um as the this is

02:45:10.240 --> 02:45:11.576
the first time that we're sharing the

02:45:11.600 --> 02:45:14.056
draft plan publicly and so the people

02:45:14.080 --> 02:45:15.816
who've informed that we're wanting to

02:45:15.840 --> 02:45:17.976
close the loop with them. Um, so those

02:45:18.000 --> 02:45:19.496
hard-to-reach communities, whether

02:45:19.520 --> 02:45:21.335
they're in high-rise in those locations

02:45:21.359 --> 02:45:23.096
or or some of the other locations around

02:45:23.120 --> 02:45:25.176
the municipality, will have that direct

02:45:25.200 --> 02:45:26.616
line of ability to go back to them

02:45:26.640 --> 02:45:27.415
again.

02:45:27.439 --> 02:45:29.176
And through you, Mayor, just to build on

02:45:29.200 --> 02:45:32.056
Josh's response,  I think um the

02:45:32.080 --> 02:45:34.136
multicultural strategy has been a great

02:45:34.160 --> 02:45:36.616
opportunity to test and trial new ways

02:45:36.640 --> 02:45:39.640
of engaging with the community  in

02:45:39.760 --> 02:45:41.656
different parts of our municipality, but

02:45:41.680 --> 02:45:42.936
also from different cultural

02:45:42.960 --> 02:45:45.255
backgrounds. So, I'm sure there'll be an

02:45:45.279 --> 02:45:47.656
opportunity through this um process to

02:45:47.680 --> 02:45:50.680
pick up on some of those um  tools and

02:45:51.840 --> 02:45:53.496
techniques that we've used through this

02:45:53.520 --> 02:45:55.335
strategy development that are working

02:45:55.359 --> 02:45:57.415
across some of  council's other

02:45:57.439 --> 02:45:59.976
engagement activities.

02:46:00.000 --> 02:46:02.216
Given Councelor Jay's question, perhaps

02:46:02.240 --> 02:46:03.896
just to follow up, does that engagement

02:46:03.920 --> 02:46:06.696
also include owner corps or the building

02:46:06.720 --> 02:46:09.720
managers of those high-rise buildings?

02:46:11.600 --> 02:46:13.016
I'll have to take that question on

02:46:13.040 --> 02:46:15.496
notice um and come back to you on that.

02:46:15.520 --> 02:46:16.776
Yeah.

02:46:16.800 --> 02:46:18.375
Yes, councelor Joy.

02:46:18.399 --> 02:46:21.399
Very good question from the Mayor. Um

02:46:22.160 --> 02:46:24.136
 the other thing that may want to be

02:46:24.160 --> 02:46:26.295
considered is WhatsApp groups. A lot of

02:46:26.319 --> 02:46:28.056
these buildings including my own have

02:46:28.080 --> 02:46:31.080
got active WhatsApp groups. So certainly

02:46:31.279 --> 02:46:34.136
that is an excellent line of um

02:46:34.160 --> 02:46:36.056
we all have our moments councelor Jay.

02:46:36.080 --> 02:46:37.976
So through you may um and thank you

02:46:38.000 --> 02:46:39.415
councelor Jay. So in the phase one

02:46:39.439 --> 02:46:42.439
engagement, we developed um targeted 

02:46:42.800 --> 02:46:44.856
stakeholder packs in language

02:46:44.880 --> 02:46:46.455
specifically for use within those

02:46:46.479 --> 02:46:49.176
WhatsApp groups um and targeted key

02:46:49.200 --> 02:46:50.455
community leaders to be able to then

02:46:50.479 --> 02:46:51.896
disseminate that information in those

02:46:51.920 --> 02:46:54.920
forums. Um so we um this time round the

02:46:55.359 --> 02:46:58.295
the messaging is a little bit more um 

02:46:58.319 --> 02:47:00.856
simple to be able to convey around um

02:47:00.880 --> 02:47:02.216
and the probably the other thing to

02:47:02.240 --> 02:47:04.295
emphasize is as part of the pack going

02:47:04.319 --> 02:47:07.319
live um we've translated the  the

02:47:08.240 --> 02:47:10.936
draft strategy into an infographic. Um,

02:47:10.960 --> 02:47:12.776
so there's also a visual representation

02:47:12.800 --> 02:47:15.800
of the plan on a page um that picks up a

02:47:16.080 --> 02:47:17.576
visual representation all of the key

02:47:17.600 --> 02:47:20.600
themes and um  and objectives um with

02:47:21.359 --> 02:47:23.656
key language but then also um visual

02:47:23.680 --> 02:47:25.415
representation. And so we think that's

02:47:25.439 --> 02:47:27.096
another way that some of the groups that

02:47:27.120 --> 02:47:28.375
we're talking about will be able to

02:47:28.399 --> 02:47:30.616
engage in that material. Um and just to

02:47:30.640 --> 02:47:33.640
extend on um  our GM's contribution,

02:47:34.960 --> 02:47:36.056
one of the things that I think the

02:47:36.080 --> 02:47:37.976
counselors were  or valued in the

02:47:38.000 --> 02:47:39.656
phase one engagement was the citizenship

02:47:39.680 --> 02:47:42.680
ceremony um  popup. Um and so we're

02:47:43.359 --> 02:47:44.936
doing that again in phase two just as

02:47:44.960 --> 02:47:47.960
some of those um  creative ways to

02:47:48.000 --> 02:47:50.136
engage community members of a wide range

02:47:50.160 --> 02:47:52.375
of backgrounds but also diffing language

02:47:52.399 --> 02:47:54.616
ability.

02:47:54.640 --> 02:47:56.216
Council Buckingham, I saw your hand

02:47:56.240 --> 02:47:59.176
before. Question. Um a strategy like

02:47:59.200 --> 02:48:01.096
this for good reason needs to be quite

02:48:01.120 --> 02:48:04.120
high high level. We as counselors often

02:48:04.240 --> 02:48:07.240
have um quite practical

02:48:07.520 --> 02:48:09.255
 issues that come up for our

02:48:09.279 --> 02:48:12.279
multicultural communities around um

02:48:12.960 --> 02:48:14.696
really practical day-to-day things that

02:48:14.720 --> 02:48:17.656
the council facilitates. How will the

02:48:17.680 --> 02:48:20.680
strategy lead to um a more inclusive and

02:48:22.640 --> 02:48:24.295
um address some of those practical

02:48:24.319 --> 02:48:26.375
issues that we that have come up

02:48:26.399 --> 02:48:29.176
multiple times

02:48:29.200 --> 02:48:30.696
through you Mayor and thank you

02:48:30.720 --> 02:48:33.016
councelor um in the implementation

02:48:33.040 --> 02:48:35.736
section of the report um and and of the

02:48:35.760 --> 02:48:37.415
draft plan itself there's a bit of

02:48:37.439 --> 02:48:40.439
detail on that um  particularly some

02:48:40.560 --> 02:48:42.616
of the objectives um when the

02:48:42.640 --> 02:48:44.375
implementation plan is developed speak

02:48:44.399 --> 02:48:46.856
directly to that around trusted services

02:48:46.880 --> 02:48:48.616
and support. So, if we're thinking about

02:48:48.640 --> 02:48:51.176
council services, um how they're

02:48:51.200 --> 02:48:53.496
implemented and having the frameworks

02:48:53.520 --> 02:48:55.096
and guidance to be able to do that in a

02:48:55.120 --> 02:48:57.415
way where people can access information

02:48:57.439 --> 02:49:00.439
easily, but then also um negotiate and

02:49:00.560 --> 02:49:01.816
navigate that and that there's

02:49:01.840 --> 02:49:04.136
flexibility in that to be responsive. Um

02:49:04.160 --> 02:49:05.576
so, some of those very practical

02:49:05.600 --> 02:49:07.176
concerns that have been raised have led

02:49:07.200 --> 02:49:09.096
to changes in the draft plan. While they

02:49:09.120 --> 02:49:10.375
still are represented in a very high

02:49:10.399 --> 02:49:11.816
level way due to the nature of the

02:49:11.840 --> 02:49:14.840
document um they're able to be

02:49:14.880 --> 02:49:17.016
implemented directly with um community

02:49:17.040 --> 02:49:18.536
members across different areas of

02:49:18.560 --> 02:49:21.335
service.

02:49:21.359 --> 02:49:24.359
Any further council bucking

02:49:25.040 --> 02:49:28.040
I have one more. So from from the very

02:49:28.399 --> 02:49:30.776
sort of small issues to the the big

02:49:30.800 --> 02:49:33.176
question how will we evaluate the

02:49:33.200 --> 02:49:36.200
success of the strategy? Um I understand

02:49:37.359 --> 02:49:38.856
a lot of like the goals of the strategy

02:49:38.880 --> 02:49:41.880
are quite hard to to quantify in some

02:49:42.240 --> 02:49:45.240
ways or the outcomes. Um

02:49:45.600 --> 02:49:48.600
have we how do we feel about how we're

02:49:49.120 --> 02:49:52.120
going to evaluate and measure success?

02:49:53.600 --> 02:49:55.335
Thank  through you may thank you

02:49:55.359 --> 02:49:58.136
councelor. The um the strategy itself

02:49:58.160 --> 02:50:00.776
outlines um community sat satisfaction

02:50:00.800 --> 02:50:03.255
survey measures that we as a collective

02:50:03.279 --> 02:50:06.279
of across the different actions um we're

02:50:06.560 --> 02:50:08.616
anticipate and and hopeful of being able

02:50:08.640 --> 02:50:10.136
to see improvements in those areas

02:50:10.160 --> 02:50:11.736
specifically given the nature of the

02:50:11.760 --> 02:50:14.455
responses relating to the actions

02:50:14.479 --> 02:50:16.856
itself. Um I think in terms of how we

02:50:16.880 --> 02:50:18.936
then  have a level of transparency and

02:50:18.960 --> 02:50:21.415
accountability around um the range of

02:50:21.439 --> 02:50:23.016
actions we've built that into the

02:50:23.040 --> 02:50:25.096
existing council endorsed  diversity,

02:50:25.120 --> 02:50:27.415
equity, inclusion framework reporting.

02:50:27.439 --> 02:50:30.439
So that's twice yearly looking at um 

02:50:30.560 --> 02:50:31.816
the number of actions that are

02:50:31.840 --> 02:50:34.136
progressing on strategies  and then

02:50:34.160 --> 02:50:35.896
building in evaluation to those projects

02:50:35.920 --> 02:50:37.656
themselves. So I think there's a fair

02:50:37.680 --> 02:50:40.216
amount of rigor around that both from a

02:50:40.240 --> 02:50:42.375
um community level in terms of those

02:50:42.399 --> 02:50:44.216
community satisfaction survey measures

02:50:44.240 --> 02:50:46.295
but then from individual actions and how

02:50:46.319 --> 02:50:48.295
we  track those and report on those

02:50:48.319 --> 02:50:50.776
internally.

02:50:50.800 --> 02:50:53.800
Any further questions

02:50:56.000 --> 02:50:57.816
in which case there's a recommendation

02:50:57.840 --> 02:51:00.295
before us. Is there a mover? Move

02:51:00.319 --> 02:51:03.319
councelor Buckingham a seconder.

02:51:04.560 --> 02:51:07.176
seconded. Councelor Hardy, does the

02:51:07.200 --> 02:51:10.200
mover wish to speak?

02:51:10.880 --> 02:51:12.616
 when I was on the multicultural

02:51:12.640 --> 02:51:15.640
advisory committee  and the committee

02:51:16.160 --> 02:51:17.736
was the former committee was wrapping

02:51:17.760 --> 02:51:20.760
up, we did an exercise where we um the

02:51:20.800 --> 02:51:22.616
committee gave feedback on what they

02:51:22.640 --> 02:51:25.640
would most like to see happen in 2526

02:51:27.760 --> 02:51:30.295
um in the multicultural space and they

02:51:30.319 --> 02:51:32.776
said they wanted to see a strategy and I

02:51:32.800 --> 02:51:34.776
I think what I what I heard back then

02:51:34.800 --> 02:51:37.800
was that we do a lot. We do so much and

02:51:39.200 --> 02:51:40.696
I definitely think it's part of our

02:51:40.720 --> 02:51:42.375
values here at City of Port Phillip that

02:51:42.399 --> 02:51:44.056
we are inclusive and that we celebrate

02:51:44.080 --> 02:51:47.080
our diversity and we value it. Um, but

02:51:47.439 --> 02:51:49.176
we were doing a lot without that

02:51:49.200 --> 02:51:52.200
overarching framework and I'm really

02:51:52.319 --> 02:51:53.816
excited by this strategy because I think

02:51:53.840 --> 02:51:56.840
that's what this gives us. Um, and this

02:51:57.120 --> 02:51:59.816
will guide where we put resources, where

02:51:59.840 --> 02:52:02.840
we put our our time and our efforts to

02:52:03.200 --> 02:52:05.016
ensure that we we don't have gaps that

02:52:05.040 --> 02:52:06.696
are not being addressed and that we are

02:52:06.720 --> 02:52:08.856
picking up the full diversity of our

02:52:08.880 --> 02:52:11.016
communities. And as we've, you know,

02:52:11.040 --> 02:52:13.496
discussed earlier this evening with our

02:52:13.520 --> 02:52:15.576
um submission to the Royal Commission,

02:52:15.600 --> 02:52:17.496
it's not an easy time like

02:52:17.520 --> 02:52:20.136
multiculturalism that we may have um

02:52:20.160 --> 02:52:22.776
felt was such a ingrained part of who we

02:52:22.800 --> 02:52:25.415
are. there are threats to our cohesion.

02:52:25.439 --> 02:52:28.439
There are um cracks showing and so we do

02:52:28.560 --> 02:52:29.976
need to be more proactive and more

02:52:30.000 --> 02:52:32.136
strategic in this space and I think this

02:52:32.160 --> 02:52:35.160
document um sets us up for that. So,

02:52:36.240 --> 02:52:37.335
thank you to everyone that's

02:52:37.359 --> 02:52:39.096
contributed. I know that a lot of people

02:52:39.120 --> 02:52:41.335
put a lot of time and effort and shared

02:52:41.359 --> 02:52:43.335
a lot of their own experiences to inform

02:52:43.359 --> 02:52:45.335
the strategy and I encourage everyone

02:52:45.359 --> 02:52:47.255
else that may not have had an

02:52:47.279 --> 02:52:49.496
opportunity to engage to now have a look

02:52:49.520 --> 02:52:52.136
at it and share your ideas and your um

02:52:52.160 --> 02:52:55.096
your thoughts because this will be a

02:52:55.120 --> 02:52:56.696
guiding document that will shape our

02:52:56.720 --> 02:52:58.936
community for many years to come.

02:52:58.960 --> 02:53:01.176
Thank you. Moved councelor Buckingham.

02:53:01.200 --> 02:53:03.656
Thank you. Councelor Hardy as second

02:53:03.680 --> 02:53:05.736
would you like to speak? Many of us

02:53:05.760 --> 02:53:07.176
think and many Australians think that

02:53:07.200 --> 02:53:08.936
we're all inclusive with our

02:53:08.960 --> 02:53:11.896
multicultural people that we are, but 

02:53:11.920 --> 02:53:14.375
sometimes we're not. And strategies like

02:53:14.399 --> 02:53:17.399
this really bring it home to the people

02:53:18.000 --> 02:53:19.816
who are in the multicultural

02:53:19.840 --> 02:53:21.576
environment, but we are including them

02:53:21.600 --> 02:53:24.600
and we do value their opinions.

02:53:25.120 --> 02:53:27.496
Thank you, councelor Hardy. Any other

02:53:27.520 --> 02:53:29.736
councilors wish to speak to this item?

02:53:29.760 --> 02:53:31.816
Councelor Timman,

02:53:31.840 --> 02:53:33.816
you know, as a migrant, I think, 

02:53:33.840 --> 02:53:36.840
have to speak. Um,

02:53:37.359 --> 02:53:40.216
one of our, you know, joys is,  being

02:53:40.240 --> 02:53:42.936
part of the citizenship ceremonies and

02:53:42.960 --> 02:53:44.616
to actually, you know, the last one I

02:53:44.640 --> 02:53:46.056
missed it, but there were nearly 200

02:53:46.080 --> 02:53:49.016
people.  I was in, I was in in town,

02:53:49.040 --> 02:53:50.696
but, you know, and knowing that is a

02:53:50.720 --> 02:53:52.375
backlog. I don't know how many hundreds

02:53:52.399 --> 02:53:54.536
of people who  want to become

02:53:54.560 --> 02:53:57.560
Australians. And  it is such a joy you

02:53:58.560 --> 02:54:01.335
know I went through that in on the 26th

02:54:01.359 --> 02:54:04.359
of January 1990 outside the town hall

02:54:04.560 --> 02:54:07.560
here. So it is u a moment  to

02:54:08.160 --> 02:54:11.160
celebrate and um you know obviously you

02:54:12.720 --> 02:54:14.216
know we talked about the anti-semitism

02:54:14.240 --> 02:54:16.136
but it's much much broader you know like

02:54:16.160 --> 02:54:17.816
I suppose antise-semitism at the moment

02:54:17.840 --> 02:54:20.840
is is taken a bit of the the kind of the

02:54:21.279 --> 02:54:23.255
the first step but you know we talk

02:54:23.279 --> 02:54:25.096
about you know every time there are 30

02:54:25.120 --> 02:54:27.176
or 40 countries or people coming from

02:54:27.200 --> 02:54:29.415
all these countries that come and have

02:54:29.439 --> 02:54:31.896
chosen to live in our city and become

02:54:31.920 --> 02:54:34.920
Australian. So u I think it's important

02:54:35.520 --> 02:54:37.496
um you know um I've done haven't done

02:54:37.520 --> 02:54:40.520
too badly as a as a as a migrant  and

02:54:41.120 --> 02:54:44.056
councelor B is the same but um you know

02:54:44.080 --> 02:54:46.216
I wish you know it is a great place to

02:54:46.240 --> 02:54:49.240
be and um but we it it is a challenge

02:54:49.760 --> 02:54:52.760
and whatever we can do to make our

02:54:52.800 --> 02:54:54.936
migrants and multicultural people

02:54:54.960 --> 02:54:57.576
welcome into our city whatever we can do

02:54:57.600 --> 02:54:59.335
we have to do and hopefully this

02:54:59.359 --> 02:55:02.056
strategy helps us getting there and

02:55:02.080 --> 02:55:04.936
making the people who are not from here

02:55:04.960 --> 02:55:07.960
welcome to hear.

02:55:08.080 --> 02:55:09.816
Thank you councelor Timman. Any other

02:55:09.840 --> 02:55:11.976
counselors wish to speak to the item

02:55:12.000 --> 02:55:14.455
before us?

02:55:14.479 --> 02:55:16.136
Yes, councelor Halliday, the floor is

02:55:16.160 --> 02:55:18.136
yours.

02:55:18.160 --> 02:55:19.896
Um,

02:55:19.920 --> 02:55:22.920
unless your ancestors walked here 40,000

02:55:24.960 --> 02:55:27.960
years ago,  pretty much your

02:55:29.200 --> 02:55:31.576
ancestors, your predecessors were

02:55:31.600 --> 02:55:33.016
immigrants. You know, they came here

02:55:33.040 --> 02:55:36.040
from somewhere else. Um, and I think

02:55:36.800 --> 02:55:39.800
this reflects the experience where some

02:55:39.920 --> 02:55:42.920
of us have go back different numbers of

02:55:43.120 --> 02:55:44.616
generations, some of us go back

02:55:44.640 --> 02:55:47.640
millennia. Um but I think that this the

02:55:49.359 --> 02:55:52.359
multicultural strategy here reflects the

02:55:52.800 --> 02:55:54.616
experience of a whole bunch of people

02:55:54.640 --> 02:55:57.640
who've come together um to Australia

02:55:57.680 --> 02:56:00.136
from different places over different

02:56:00.160 --> 02:56:02.295
time periods. And um I think this

02:56:02.319 --> 02:56:05.319
hopefully reflects our shared values of

02:56:05.920 --> 02:56:08.920
embracing new people and the differences

02:56:10.160 --> 02:56:12.936
that they bring um rather than expecting

02:56:12.960 --> 02:56:15.736
everyone to be exactly the same. and 

02:56:15.760 --> 02:56:18.760
live in one way. So, I'd like to um

02:56:19.359 --> 02:56:22.136
thank  Council Buckingham for

02:56:22.160 --> 02:56:24.536
championing this last year um and

02:56:24.560 --> 02:56:27.415
getting this done and um hope that this

02:56:27.439 --> 02:56:30.439
speaks to all the different  facets of

02:56:30.479 --> 02:56:33.479
our community here  in saying that um

02:56:33.760 --> 02:56:36.616
you know, we all belong here.  so, I'm

02:56:36.640 --> 02:56:39.016
happy to support this.

02:56:39.040 --> 02:56:41.176
Thank you, Councelor Halliday. Any

02:56:41.200 --> 02:56:44.200
other counselors wish to speak?

02:56:46.000 --> 02:56:48.375
No other counselors have indicated a

02:56:48.399 --> 02:56:49.816
desire to speak, in which case we'll

02:56:49.840 --> 02:56:51.576
head back to the mover to close.

02:56:51.600 --> 02:56:54.295
Councelor Buckingham, over to you.

02:56:54.319 --> 02:56:56.936
Just in closing, and I probably should

02:56:56.960 --> 02:56:59.960
have asked this as a question. Um,

02:57:00.720 --> 02:57:03.720
the strategy is the achievement of the

02:57:04.000 --> 02:57:05.976
people on the multicultural advisory,

02:57:06.000 --> 02:57:07.656
the former multicultural advisory

02:57:07.680 --> 02:57:09.415
committee. So, I think it would be

02:57:09.439 --> 02:57:11.576
really great if they were notified about

02:57:11.600 --> 02:57:13.415
the decision. you know, I'm presuming

02:57:13.439 --> 02:57:16.439
there's broad support for um this

02:57:16.640 --> 02:57:18.216
strategy taking the next step. And I

02:57:18.240 --> 02:57:19.896
just think it's really important that

02:57:19.920 --> 02:57:21.976
those community leaders that have been

02:57:22.000 --> 02:57:23.335
calling for this and actively

02:57:23.359 --> 02:57:25.976
participating are brought along on this

02:57:26.000 --> 02:57:27.415
journey even though we've um

02:57:27.439 --> 02:57:30.439
reconstituted that that committee um

02:57:31.680 --> 02:57:34.680
and that they they come along with us on

02:57:34.960 --> 02:57:37.816
this next step. And I'd just like to

02:57:37.840 --> 02:57:39.656
thank all the officers for their work on

02:57:39.680 --> 02:57:42.680
this strategy. Thank you.

02:57:43.040 --> 02:57:45.176
Thank you, Council Buckingham. In

02:57:45.200 --> 02:57:47.096
closing the debate, the motion is now

02:57:47.120 --> 02:57:50.120
being put. All those in favor,

02:57:50.240 --> 02:57:52.776
that is carried

02:57:52.800 --> 02:57:55.800
unanimously.

02:57:56.399 --> 02:57:59.399
Brings us now to item 11.2, the draft

02:57:59.520 --> 02:58:01.656
creative strategy for community

02:58:01.680 --> 02:58:03.335
consultation.

02:58:03.359 --> 02:58:06.359
Any questions for officers?

02:58:08.880 --> 02:58:11.176
Councelor

02:58:11.200 --> 02:58:14.200
So we got a draft. What are we doing

02:58:15.439 --> 02:58:18.439
next? Because obviously we are priming

02:58:18.560 --> 02:58:21.560
ourselves to be a creative city. Um so

02:58:22.080 --> 02:58:24.216
you know we are a multi multicultural

02:58:24.240 --> 02:58:25.976
creative city. It's kind of interesting

02:58:26.000 --> 02:58:29.000
that both  drafts come to us tonight

02:58:29.200 --> 02:58:32.200
at the same time. Um so

02:58:32.319 --> 02:58:35.096
what are the next steps to make sure

02:58:35.120 --> 02:58:38.120
that first you know I think it's we have

02:58:38.800 --> 02:58:41.800
many  groups um that are very active

02:58:42.640 --> 02:58:45.640
in that scene. So, you know, so what are

02:58:45.920 --> 02:58:48.295
we doing next to make sure that they are

02:58:48.319 --> 02:58:51.319
heard and that their input is going to

02:58:52.319 --> 02:58:55.319
be featuring in our final document

02:58:56.560 --> 02:58:59.496
 through you may ask Adele  who's

02:58:59.520 --> 02:59:02.375
online to answer that question.

02:59:02.399 --> 02:59:04.056
Over to Adele Dennison, our head of

02:59:04.080 --> 02:59:06.616
arts, festivals and events.

02:59:06.640 --> 02:59:08.536
Thank you. And through you, Mayor, we

02:59:08.560 --> 02:59:11.255
will kick off tomorrow a 5we community

02:59:11.279 --> 02:59:14.216
consultation period on this strategy.

02:59:14.240 --> 02:59:16.136
And um you're right, the synergy that

02:59:16.160 --> 02:59:17.736
this  will coincide with the

02:59:17.760 --> 02:59:20.760
multicultural strategy means we are um

02:59:20.800 --> 02:59:22.856
aiming to reach far and wide into the

02:59:22.880 --> 02:59:25.880
community. It also will align with um

02:59:25.920 --> 02:59:27.976
key events both at Lynden Gallery and

02:59:28.000 --> 02:59:29.816
the St Kilda Film Festival opening

02:59:29.840 --> 02:59:31.656
tomorrow where large parts of our

02:59:31.680 --> 02:59:33.335
community and and creative industries

02:59:33.359 --> 02:59:35.896
are already engaged. So the engagement

02:59:35.920 --> 02:59:38.776
will take place on have your say. We'll

02:59:38.800 --> 02:59:41.096
promote that on social media through

02:59:41.120 --> 02:59:44.120
diversity.  and um we will also do

02:59:44.880 --> 02:59:47.880
popup consultation activations at those

02:59:48.640 --> 02:59:51.640
events that I just mentioned as well.

02:59:52.880 --> 02:59:55.736
any councelor Tim

02:59:55.760 --> 02:59:58.536
would um

02:59:58.560 --> 03:00:00.295
I know I like pop-ups and all these

03:00:00.319 --> 03:00:02.295
things but you know for would it be

03:00:02.319 --> 03:00:05.319
worth having sort of a round table with

03:00:05.760 --> 03:00:08.760
Copak and film the port flip film

03:00:09.120 --> 03:00:12.056
alliance and other parties even

03:00:12.080 --> 03:00:15.080
separately so it's it's sort of a bit

03:00:15.279 --> 03:00:17.656
more engaged than just  you know a

03:00:17.680 --> 03:00:20.056
popup around the corner

03:00:20.080 --> 03:00:21.896
we do have organizations that are

03:00:21.920 --> 03:00:24.216
passionate So you know we got theaters

03:00:24.240 --> 03:00:26.136
and stuff. So

03:00:26.160 --> 03:00:28.616
your question is Yep. the round table

03:00:28.640 --> 03:00:31.096
format consultation. Kie Bennett over to

03:00:31.120 --> 03:00:31.736
you

03:00:31.760 --> 03:00:34.136
through through you Mayor.  Joel do

03:00:34.160 --> 03:00:36.856
you want to answer that question?

03:00:36.880 --> 03:00:38.856
Sure. Through you Mayor. There is no

03:00:38.880 --> 03:00:41.736
roundt planned but officers will and

03:00:41.760 --> 03:00:43.576
have already scheduled meetings with all

03:00:43.600 --> 03:00:46.600
the key  networks and organizations

03:00:46.880 --> 03:00:48.455
within the municipality that will

03:00:48.479 --> 03:00:50.936
include COPAC and the film alliance

03:00:50.960 --> 03:00:53.576
among many others. And we'll we'll 

03:00:53.600 --> 03:00:55.335
spend the next five weeks talking

03:00:55.359 --> 03:00:57.255
extensively to all of those groups to

03:00:57.279 --> 03:00:59.816
ensure that they are represented as part

03:00:59.840 --> 03:01:02.840
of the consultation.

03:01:02.960 --> 03:01:04.936
And there was a lot of early engagement

03:01:04.960 --> 03:01:06.696
in the development of the strategy.

03:01:06.720 --> 03:01:08.455
Maybe it might be worth just outlining

03:01:08.479 --> 03:01:10.056
some of the early engagement steps

03:01:10.080 --> 03:01:12.455
before it reached the draft status at a

03:01:12.479 --> 03:01:15.479
broad level

03:01:16.240 --> 03:01:18.856
through you may. Absolutely. We  did

03:01:18.880 --> 03:01:21.880
undertake extensive consultation within

03:01:21.920 --> 03:01:23.816
the creative sector and creative

03:01:23.840 --> 03:01:25.896
industries both locally and with state

03:01:25.920 --> 03:01:27.656
government. We we primarily did that

03:01:27.680 --> 03:01:29.896
through an external consultant who held

03:01:29.920 --> 03:01:32.216
a number of workshops to understand the

03:01:32.240 --> 03:01:34.295
sector's challenges, opportunities and

03:01:34.319 --> 03:01:36.056
priorities. And that included our arts

03:01:36.080 --> 03:01:38.455
organizations as well as independent

03:01:38.479 --> 03:01:40.536
artists,  representatives from some

03:01:40.560 --> 03:01:42.536
of our key industries such as live music

03:01:42.560 --> 03:01:45.016
and screen, our traditional owners, our

03:01:45.040 --> 03:01:46.936
local businesses, and we also did an

03:01:46.960 --> 03:01:49.096
online survey to,  sector

03:01:49.120 --> 03:01:51.496
representatives and independent

03:01:51.520 --> 03:01:53.496
practitioners as well. That's all

03:01:53.520 --> 03:01:55.816
informed the draft, which then was also

03:01:55.840 --> 03:01:57.576
peer-reviewed by people within the

03:01:57.600 --> 03:01:59.255
sector prior to this community

03:01:59.279 --> 03:02:01.896
consultation period as well. and also as

03:02:01.920 --> 03:02:03.976
part of that accommodated a fairly

03:02:04.000 --> 03:02:05.335
significant number of stakeholders that

03:02:05.359 --> 03:02:07.255
I think I sent your way to as part of

03:02:07.279 --> 03:02:10.279
that consultation

03:02:10.560 --> 03:02:13.016
through there were hundreds of people

03:02:13.040 --> 03:02:16.040
consulted through that consultation.

03:02:16.399 --> 03:02:18.616
Thank you. Any further questions

03:02:18.640 --> 03:02:21.640
councelor

03:02:21.840 --> 03:02:23.656
obviously we have a lot of organizations

03:02:23.680 --> 03:02:26.680
in that  in that  sphere in the

03:02:26.800 --> 03:02:29.800
city.  can the final report actually

03:02:30.479 --> 03:02:32.136
identify

03:02:32.160 --> 03:02:35.016
what we have got and try to get some

03:02:35.040 --> 03:02:37.896
information from them. Um in terms of

03:02:37.920 --> 03:02:40.920
even you know we know the issues that

03:02:40.960 --> 03:02:43.896
exist at the moment with financing

03:02:43.920 --> 03:02:46.696
we want organization to be sustainable

03:02:46.720 --> 03:02:49.016
 but we know that there's been cut

03:02:49.040 --> 03:02:51.576
budget cuts and others. So is there any

03:02:51.600 --> 03:02:54.136
ways to  incorporate in the final

03:02:54.160 --> 03:02:56.536
report the organization we've got and

03:02:56.560 --> 03:02:59.560
having made pie charts or things to you

03:02:59.680 --> 03:03:02.680
know we know um you know how we how they

03:03:03.920 --> 03:03:05.976
work how they are financed you know

03:03:06.000 --> 03:03:07.976
because if they if they have got grants

03:03:08.000 --> 03:03:10.375
by the state government and that's been

03:03:10.399 --> 03:03:11.976
cut or whatever you know I think whether

03:03:12.000 --> 03:03:14.455
the ticket says what this is a pie chart

03:03:14.479 --> 03:03:16.375
I know I've spoken with some of them and

03:03:16.399 --> 03:03:18.295
they're happy to provide those figures

03:03:18.319 --> 03:03:21.016
so so to make sure that we know what we

03:03:21.040 --> 03:03:24.040
deal with in our city and and and how we

03:03:24.240 --> 03:03:25.496
can help if needed.

03:03:25.520 --> 03:03:27.976
Thank you.

03:03:28.000 --> 03:03:30.136
Through you, Mayor, we would feasibly be

03:03:30.160 --> 03:03:32.136
able to do that with the organizations

03:03:32.160 --> 03:03:34.375
that we fund or our key arts

03:03:34.399 --> 03:03:36.375
organizations to do that more

03:03:36.399 --> 03:03:38.856
extensively would need more time than

03:03:38.880 --> 03:03:41.736
the 5we consultation period we have. But

03:03:41.760 --> 03:03:43.415
I note one of the year one actions in

03:03:43.439 --> 03:03:46.375
the strategy is to do some cultural

03:03:46.399 --> 03:03:49.399
mapping to locate um where where these

03:03:50.000 --> 03:03:52.216
businesses are and and what sort of

03:03:52.240 --> 03:03:54.616
services they're providing and as part

03:03:54.640 --> 03:03:56.295
of that we could undertake that more

03:03:56.319 --> 03:03:57.976
extensive work. But to put that in

03:03:58.000 --> 03:03:59.816
perspective,  we understand there's

03:03:59.840 --> 03:04:02.136
600 registered businesses in the

03:04:02.160 --> 03:04:04.455
municipality that would fall under the

03:04:04.479 --> 03:04:07.479
umbrella of this strategy. And so to get

03:04:07.520 --> 03:04:10.455
any significant proportion of those

03:04:10.479 --> 03:04:12.216
would would be a challenge in a fiveweek

03:04:12.240 --> 03:04:14.056
period.

03:04:14.080 --> 03:04:17.080
Any further questions?

03:04:17.520 --> 03:04:19.415
Councelor Consol.

03:04:19.439 --> 03:04:20.696
Thank you. Hopefully this hasn't been

03:04:20.720 --> 03:04:23.720
asked previously, but on 3.6 six where

03:04:24.800 --> 03:04:27.576
it says that the um reallocation of the

03:04:27.600 --> 03:04:29.816
$450,000 from the St. killer festival

03:04:29.840 --> 03:04:32.295
peranium given that that's sort of how

03:04:32.319 --> 03:04:34.216
we talked about it in this financial

03:04:34.240 --> 03:04:35.976
year that we're in now where it was we

03:04:36.000 --> 03:04:39.000
carved off some um is that suggesting

03:04:39.520 --> 03:04:42.136
that ongoing we're going to s call it

03:04:42.160 --> 03:04:45.096
that it's kind of carved off that 450

03:04:45.120 --> 03:04:47.816
and not that it's um its own bucket of

03:04:47.840 --> 03:04:50.840
money because in a future council they

03:04:51.279 --> 03:04:52.536
might start interpreting it a little

03:04:52.560 --> 03:04:54.056
different which is their right to do so

03:04:54.080 --> 03:04:56.936
but I just wondered how we're going to

03:04:56.960 --> 03:04:59.960
um call that in the future budgets

03:05:00.000 --> 03:05:02.455
through you, Mayor.  we can certainly

03:05:02.479 --> 03:05:04.375
give some further consideration to the

03:05:04.399 --> 03:05:07.016
way that is  treated in the future.

03:05:07.040 --> 03:05:10.040
But the intent is  that any new

03:05:10.560 --> 03:05:13.335
actions um that are outlined in the

03:05:13.359 --> 03:05:16.359
strategy would be funded um by council

03:05:16.880 --> 03:05:19.816
reducing  the the budget or

03:05:19.840 --> 03:05:21.896
maintaining the budget as it is sort of

03:05:21.920 --> 03:05:24.856
currently I guess um and using the

03:05:24.880 --> 03:05:27.880
$450,000 that had been had been

03:05:28.240 --> 03:05:30.455
previously available to fund those

03:05:30.479 --> 03:05:33.255
activities. But I take your point.  we

03:05:33.279 --> 03:05:35.096
need to probably give some consideration

03:05:35.120 --> 03:05:38.120
to the way that's worded going forward.

03:05:38.160 --> 03:05:41.160
Okay. And I had councelor Jay and then

03:05:42.080 --> 03:05:43.976
we'll go to councelor Hardy.

03:05:44.000 --> 03:05:46.856
Yeah. just um remind me this was

03:05:46.880 --> 03:05:49.880
originally a creative and economic

03:05:50.080 --> 03:05:52.936
development strategy that we as

03:05:52.960 --> 03:05:55.255
councilors decided to split so we could

03:05:55.279 --> 03:05:57.335
focus on the creative and then focus on

03:05:57.359 --> 03:05:59.176
the economic development as something

03:05:59.200 --> 03:06:02.136
separate which um is great. When is the

03:06:02.160 --> 03:06:05.160
economic development part of this

03:06:05.760 --> 03:06:08.760
um coming to town

03:06:09.200 --> 03:06:12.200
CEO

03:06:12.319 --> 03:06:13.016
over to you

03:06:13.040 --> 03:06:16.040
through you may work on that has 

03:06:16.880 --> 03:06:19.816
commenced I can't tell you the exact

03:06:19.840 --> 03:06:22.840
date but  it will be coming to 

03:06:24.160 --> 03:06:26.136
counselors

03:06:26.160 --> 03:06:29.160
but it's probably um a number of months

03:06:29.439 --> 03:06:31.656
away rather than immediately. and and

03:06:31.680 --> 03:06:33.736
that's in part because we've I suppose

03:06:33.760 --> 03:06:36.616
seen the development of this strategy um

03:06:36.640 --> 03:06:39.415
and then have done some work to then see

03:06:39.439 --> 03:06:41.976
um what else we need to do um so it's a

03:06:42.000 --> 03:06:44.375
sequential development rather than doing

03:06:44.399 --> 03:06:47.399
the two together

03:06:49.680 --> 03:06:51.576
councelor Hardy now's your time for that

03:06:51.600 --> 03:06:52.536
question

03:06:52.560 --> 03:06:54.136
under the current policy could that

03:06:54.160 --> 03:06:57.160
$450,000 be put back into the S Kilda

03:06:58.319 --> 03:06:59.496
Festival

03:06:59.520 --> 03:07:01.896
 three May that's a matter for

03:07:01.920 --> 03:07:02.375
council.

03:07:02.399 --> 03:07:04.936
No, it can't. So you've made a decision

03:07:04.960 --> 03:07:06.216
unless you counselors want to make

03:07:06.240 --> 03:07:09.240
another decision. Um so at the moment

03:07:09.840 --> 03:07:11.576
where council officers are operating to

03:07:11.600 --> 03:07:13.255
the decision that the council have made

03:07:13.279 --> 03:07:15.176
and it was quite quite a difficult

03:07:15.200 --> 03:07:18.200
process for officers to  to find that

03:07:18.880 --> 03:07:19.736
450,000.

03:07:19.760 --> 03:07:21.576
I'm sure we stand by the decisions we

03:07:21.600 --> 03:07:24.600
have made. Councelor Hardy, any further

03:07:24.960 --> 03:07:27.960
questions?

03:07:29.920 --> 03:07:32.920
All righty. No further questions. 

03:07:32.960 --> 03:07:34.295
councelor Tom. Was that a question or

03:07:34.319 --> 03:07:36.696
did you wish to move?

03:07:36.720 --> 03:07:39.255
Move. Councelor Thomann. Seconded.

03:07:39.279 --> 03:07:41.415
Councelor Crawford.

03:07:41.439 --> 03:07:44.056
Does the mover wish to speak? The floor

03:07:44.080 --> 03:07:45.016
is yours.

03:07:45.040 --> 03:07:46.536
The first thing I would like to say,

03:07:46.560 --> 03:07:47.896
it's the first time I think that a

03:07:47.920 --> 03:07:49.255
councelor wants to spend more money on

03:07:49.279 --> 03:07:52.279
the Sincularo Festival

03:07:53.439 --> 03:07:56.216
in my in my in my history. Um, it was

03:07:56.240 --> 03:07:57.816
pretty good last year with a bit of

03:07:57.840 --> 03:08:00.536
saving. Um

03:08:00.560 --> 03:08:03.560
I I'm hope you know this is a draft and

03:08:04.000 --> 03:08:07.000
I'm actually really hoping that with all

03:08:07.439 --> 03:08:10.439
the creative minds we've got in our city

03:08:10.479 --> 03:08:13.479
um they will help us shape even a better

03:08:14.160 --> 03:08:17.160
 strategy with the input of the

03:08:17.680 --> 03:08:19.255
numerous people like you know I didn't

03:08:19.279 --> 03:08:21.176
realize there were 600 organizations in

03:08:21.200 --> 03:08:23.176
the city I know that you know there's a

03:08:23.200 --> 03:08:26.200
lot of people so I hope um that um the

03:08:28.319 --> 03:08:30.616
draft, you know, it's pretty good, but

03:08:30.640 --> 03:08:33.640
it can be much better because, you know,

03:08:33.680 --> 03:08:36.136
it's it's a

03:08:36.160 --> 03:08:39.160
it's a document and it's a theme that I

03:08:39.439 --> 03:08:41.335
would say a lot of people in our city

03:08:41.359 --> 03:08:44.359
will be interested to be part of

03:08:44.960 --> 03:08:47.016
because, you know, they've literally

03:08:47.040 --> 03:08:48.216
have a conf, you know, they have an

03:08:48.240 --> 03:08:49.576
interest, I'm not saying a conflict of

03:08:49.600 --> 03:08:52.136
interest, but they have an interest for

03:08:52.160 --> 03:08:54.616
our cultural strategy to be successful

03:08:54.640 --> 03:08:56.936
in our city because if it because it

03:08:56.960 --> 03:08:59.960
helps them. So I encourage everybody to

03:09:00.240 --> 03:09:02.936
be part of it. So we can include their

03:09:02.960 --> 03:09:05.960
thought that we have already included

03:09:06.240 --> 03:09:09.240
but um good good on you for you know we

03:09:10.560 --> 03:09:13.255
have been part of a of a session  with

03:09:13.279 --> 03:09:16.279
the consultant and some of our ideas are

03:09:16.720 --> 03:09:19.720
are in there but you know we are we want

03:09:19.840 --> 03:09:22.136
to have the best we want the best

03:09:22.160 --> 03:09:24.375
cultural city in our in the state. We

03:09:24.399 --> 03:09:26.136
know we even state sometimes we are

03:09:26.160 --> 03:09:28.536
already  but this strategy will

03:09:28.560 --> 03:09:30.136
actually shape that in the future and

03:09:30.160 --> 03:09:32.696
again I encourage everyone in that

03:09:32.720 --> 03:09:35.096
sector to be part of the consultation

03:09:35.120 --> 03:09:38.056
and tell us how we can things do things

03:09:38.080 --> 03:09:40.216
even better.

03:09:40.240 --> 03:09:41.976
The mover has spoken. Does the second

03:09:42.000 --> 03:09:43.335
wish to speak?

03:09:43.359 --> 03:09:45.096
 yes I did. I just wanted to thank

03:09:45.120 --> 03:09:47.255
officers and the community at large who

03:09:47.279 --> 03:09:49.335
have contributed to this. I do think

03:09:49.359 --> 03:09:51.255
it's a very different strategy to the

03:09:51.279 --> 03:09:53.576
last one in its framing where it values

03:09:53.600 --> 03:09:56.600
the arts and creativity for itself and

03:09:56.960 --> 03:09:59.896
what it brings to um a community, a

03:09:59.920 --> 03:10:02.856
society, you know, a municipality. Um

03:10:02.880 --> 03:10:04.536
and I really think the framing of

03:10:04.560 --> 03:10:06.136
producer, promoter, and partner is

03:10:06.160 --> 03:10:09.160
really clever and succinct. Um I think

03:10:09.359 --> 03:10:12.359
that a lot of arts um the arts itself or

03:10:13.520 --> 03:10:15.496
creativity itself brings people together

03:10:15.520 --> 03:10:17.736
at a time when we need to do that more

03:10:17.760 --> 03:10:20.760
than ever.  and often it is in person

03:10:21.279 --> 03:10:23.656
which is and well not always but it is

03:10:23.680 --> 03:10:26.455
in person and I do think in kind of line

03:10:26.479 --> 03:10:28.295
with the multicultural strategy this

03:10:28.319 --> 03:10:29.736
this is the kind of things as we're

03:10:29.760 --> 03:10:32.760
facing AI you know polarization

03:10:32.800 --> 03:10:34.616
algorithms and that this is actually the

03:10:34.640 --> 03:10:36.536
thing that can um maybe break through

03:10:36.560 --> 03:10:39.560
with our humanity and um  and and

03:10:41.040 --> 03:10:43.176
bringing us back to you know what it is

03:10:43.200 --> 03:10:45.576
to be human and and with each other and

03:10:45.600 --> 03:10:47.496
respecting you know look after each

03:10:47.520 --> 03:10:50.375
other. Um I do want to do a plug here

03:10:50.399 --> 03:10:53.399
that I do think as much as we can tweak

03:10:54.080 --> 03:10:57.080
around the actual um words or the intent

03:10:58.960 --> 03:11:01.255
of this strategy. The major thing that

03:11:01.279 --> 03:11:03.576
we really need to get from other levels

03:11:03.600 --> 03:11:05.896
of government is to reinstate or

03:11:05.920 --> 03:11:07.976
increase the funding that actually keeps

03:11:08.000 --> 03:11:10.936
this ecology of independent theater um

03:11:10.960 --> 03:11:13.960
you know visual arts music alive. Um it

03:11:14.560 --> 03:11:17.560
is a gap. there is often a jumping to

03:11:17.760 --> 03:11:19.576
other industries to support the

03:11:19.600 --> 03:11:21.496
construction industry or the whatever

03:11:21.520 --> 03:11:23.736
from them falling over or whatever other

03:11:23.760 --> 03:11:26.056
services but it doesn't matter if jobs

03:11:26.080 --> 03:11:27.976
in the creative industries fall to the

03:11:28.000 --> 03:11:29.576
wayside and it's actually not huge

03:11:29.600 --> 03:11:31.415
amounts of money so I'm putting that

03:11:31.439 --> 03:11:32.936
call out to state and federal

03:11:32.960 --> 03:11:34.856
governments to work with us these are

03:11:34.880 --> 03:11:36.696
jobs these are people's and there is a

03:11:36.720 --> 03:11:39.335
huge ecosystem of industry beyond just

03:11:39.359 --> 03:11:42.056
the artists themselves and um and some

03:11:42.080 --> 03:11:44.056
of the organizations themselves so I

03:11:44.080 --> 03:11:44.936
think we need to think of it

03:11:44.960 --> 03:11:47.496
differently. It's jobs that matter. It's

03:11:47.520 --> 03:11:50.520
people that matter. And  this kind of

03:11:50.960 --> 03:11:52.936
um getting back to humanity is more

03:11:52.960 --> 03:11:55.335
important for social cohesion than it's

03:11:55.359 --> 03:11:57.816
ever been. Um but I do think that has to

03:11:57.840 --> 03:12:00.375
be our first and foremost focus and I

03:12:00.399 --> 03:12:01.736
thank you to the officers who are going

03:12:01.760 --> 03:12:03.576
to put in a submission on behalf of the

03:12:03.600 --> 03:12:05.255
city to the federal government's

03:12:05.279 --> 03:12:07.896
cultural strategy at the moment. But um

03:12:07.920 --> 03:12:09.656
if I don't even think councelor Thomann

03:12:09.680 --> 03:12:11.736
we need to find out how much

03:12:11.760 --> 03:12:13.816
organizations have lost in ticket. they

03:12:13.840 --> 03:12:15.496
can just just tell us how much they need

03:12:15.520 --> 03:12:17.255
to survive. It's not worth doing the

03:12:17.279 --> 03:12:19.415
work. They can tell us it's and they're

03:12:19.439 --> 03:12:21.496
pretty clear all of them already. So, um

03:12:21.520 --> 03:12:23.656
let's not waste our time and their time

03:12:23.680 --> 03:12:25.736
and let's just get on with this ad

03:12:25.760 --> 03:12:27.976
advocacy and do what we can in this

03:12:28.000 --> 03:12:28.776
space.

03:12:28.800 --> 03:12:30.455
Thank you, councelor Crawford. Any other

03:12:30.479 --> 03:12:32.776
councilors wish to speak to the motion?

03:12:32.800 --> 03:12:35.800
Councelor Buckingham,

03:12:36.000 --> 03:12:38.616
this strategy is so important to the

03:12:38.640 --> 03:12:40.856
future of the city of Port Phillip. We

03:12:40.880 --> 03:12:43.335
have to get this right. Um just this

03:12:43.359 --> 03:12:46.295
morning it was reported that um

03:12:46.319 --> 03:12:48.455
attendance at live cultural events is

03:12:48.479 --> 03:12:51.479
up. Australians want to be together.

03:12:51.840 --> 03:12:53.576
They want to go to live music. They want

03:12:53.600 --> 03:12:55.736
to go to live theater. Um it was

03:12:55.760 --> 03:12:57.255
reported this morning that it's up to

03:12:57.279 --> 03:13:00.279
74% of Australians have attended um in

03:13:00.560 --> 03:13:03.560
recent times, but cost is a barrier and

03:13:04.160 --> 03:13:07.160
um and that is stopping some people that

03:13:08.000 --> 03:13:10.136
would want to go more often and want to

03:13:10.160 --> 03:13:13.160
engage more um from being able to. And

03:13:14.640 --> 03:13:17.496
um I recently was looking at some 

03:13:17.520 --> 03:13:19.656
data that suggested that one in 10

03:13:19.680 --> 03:13:22.680
people in this area work in the arts or

03:13:24.000 --> 03:13:27.000
the cultural sector. So it's key to us

03:13:27.120 --> 03:13:29.176
coming together as a community, us

03:13:29.200 --> 03:13:31.816
connecting with other other people,

03:13:31.840 --> 03:13:34.840
engaging in our um in our society in its

03:13:36.319 --> 03:13:37.976
truest sense of the word, but it's also

03:13:38.000 --> 03:13:41.000
a big employer for this area. And yet 

03:13:43.520 --> 03:13:45.656
it has been described as a perfect storm

03:13:45.680 --> 03:13:47.896
particularly for our independent arts

03:13:47.920 --> 03:13:50.920
organizations and there will be theaters

03:13:52.000 --> 03:13:54.936
and galleries and live music venues that

03:13:54.960 --> 03:13:56.936
will shut and close and just because

03:13:56.960 --> 03:13:58.776
they've been here for 40 plus years

03:13:58.800 --> 03:14:01.800
doesn't mean we can't imagine a city of

03:14:01.840 --> 03:14:04.056
Port Phillip without these institutions.

03:14:04.080 --> 03:14:07.080
So this strategy is crucial and I think

03:14:08.399 --> 03:14:09.976
there's a lot of good ideas in there,

03:14:10.000 --> 03:14:12.936
but I ask the community, I ask that one

03:14:12.960 --> 03:14:14.776
in 10 people that work in this sector,

03:14:14.800 --> 03:14:16.536
is it ambitious enough? Are there things

03:14:16.560 --> 03:14:19.415
we could be doing that we're not? Um how

03:14:19.439 --> 03:14:22.056
can we better support this sector?

03:14:22.080 --> 03:14:23.736
Because if we don't get it right, we're

03:14:23.760 --> 03:14:26.760
going to lose it. Um, so I'm I'm very

03:14:28.800 --> 03:14:31.415
keen to see how the next stage of this

03:14:31.439 --> 03:14:34.439
engagement goes and um very keen to see

03:14:34.960 --> 03:14:37.656
this strategy succeed.

03:14:37.680 --> 03:14:39.496
All right, we will need a time

03:14:39.520 --> 03:14:41.016
extension.  are there any other

03:14:41.040 --> 03:14:42.536
councilors that wish to speak to this

03:14:42.560 --> 03:14:44.776
motion before I put it? Councelor

03:14:44.800 --> 03:14:46.856
Halliday.

03:14:46.880 --> 03:14:49.880
Yep.

03:14:51.120 --> 03:14:54.120
 as a person with a long  connection

03:14:55.600 --> 03:14:57.976
to the creative industries um especially

03:14:58.000 --> 03:14:59.896
the screen and gaming industries I think

03:14:59.920 --> 03:15:02.215
that the inclusion of those in this

03:15:02.239 --> 03:15:04.536
strategy is important you know we have a

03:15:04.560 --> 03:15:06.856
large number of our um residents here

03:15:06.880 --> 03:15:08.776
who are employed in these industries and

03:15:08.800 --> 03:15:11.096
I realize this isn't just an economic

03:15:11.120 --> 03:15:14.120
thing um but it is  important the arts

03:15:14.880 --> 03:15:17.496
and culture and the jobs that they

03:15:17.520 --> 03:15:20.215
support are important for for us beyond

03:15:20.239 --> 03:15:23.239
the actual creative um expression that

03:15:23.279 --> 03:15:25.656
we gain from um the creative industry.

03:15:25.680 --> 03:15:28.680
So totally supportive of this um and 

03:15:28.960 --> 03:15:31.960
happy to support um those  people who

03:15:32.720 --> 03:15:35.720
are um employed or otherwise engaged in

03:15:36.080 --> 03:15:38.536
the  creative industries and creative

03:15:38.560 --> 03:15:40.455
activities.

03:15:40.479 --> 03:15:42.136
Interesting definition of 10 seconds but

03:15:42.160 --> 03:15:44.056
well spoken councelor Halliday. Any

03:15:44.080 --> 03:15:45.976
other councilors wish to speak to this

03:15:46.000 --> 03:15:47.576
motion?

03:15:47.600 --> 03:15:50.215
Councelor Tamman, you may close. No

03:15:50.239 --> 03:15:53.239
other councils have indicated they wish.

03:15:53.600 --> 03:15:55.096
Um

03:15:55.120 --> 03:15:57.255
I think what's kind of missing the

03:15:57.279 --> 03:15:59.176
strategies how we can generate extra

03:15:59.200 --> 03:16:02.200
income um apart from state and federal

03:16:02.880 --> 03:16:05.255
involvement. So hopefully the next stage

03:16:05.279 --> 03:16:07.576
will help us be more creative when it

03:16:07.600 --> 03:16:10.600
comes to supporting financially

03:16:10.720 --> 03:16:13.720
 the sector. But um um as I said, I'm

03:16:14.000 --> 03:16:16.536
looking forward to the next few months

03:16:16.560 --> 03:16:19.560
with community engagement and  even

03:16:20.640 --> 03:16:23.576
better strategy.

03:16:23.600 --> 03:16:26.215
Great.  the motion has now been

03:16:26.239 --> 03:16:28.455
closed. It is being put. All those in

03:16:28.479 --> 03:16:31.479
favor that is carried.

03:16:32.479 --> 03:16:35.479
 okay.  councelor Thomann, councelor

03:16:35.680 --> 03:16:38.536
Jay, councelor Buckingham, councelor

03:16:38.560 --> 03:16:40.136
Crawford, councelor Consol, councelor

03:16:40.160 --> 03:16:42.056
Halliday, deputy may all those

03:16:42.080 --> 03:16:44.616
opposed.

03:16:44.640 --> 03:16:47.176
 one abstination. So therefore the

03:16:47.200 --> 03:16:50.200
motion is carried and as per item or as

03:16:51.840 --> 03:16:54.840
per our governance rules 8 10.2 do call

03:16:55.600 --> 03:16:57.736
for an extension of up to 30 minutes to

03:16:57.760 --> 03:16:59.736
consider the remaining items. I'll put

03:16:59.760 --> 03:17:02.455
that or move that although a seconded

03:17:02.479 --> 03:17:04.375
council holiday. It's a procedural

03:17:04.399 --> 03:17:07.399
motion. All those in favor

03:17:08.399 --> 03:17:11.096
that is carried unanimous.

03:17:11.120 --> 03:17:13.576
Only did the half hour.

03:17:13.600 --> 03:17:16.600
 next item is

03:17:17.359 --> 03:17:20.359
13.2 Donovan's.

03:17:23.200 --> 03:17:25.656
Any questions for officers? This is item

03:17:25.680 --> 03:17:27.976
13.2. Donovan's restaurant capital

03:17:28.000 --> 03:17:30.936
building upgrade and new lease proposal.

03:17:30.960 --> 03:17:33.016
Questions for officers? Yes. Council

03:17:33.040 --> 03:17:35.415
Holiday.

03:17:35.439 --> 03:17:38.136
 thank you, Maya. Just wondering um we

03:17:38.160 --> 03:17:40.375
had a discussion earlier today um about

03:17:40.399 --> 03:17:43.399
this this  this proposal here extends

03:17:44.800 --> 03:17:47.800
the lease for Donovan's  out to 20 um

03:17:50.239 --> 03:17:53.239
2046, maybe 2047 depending on when they

03:17:54.080 --> 03:17:56.936
undertake all the works here. Obviously,

03:17:56.960 --> 03:17:58.455
you know, we've had discussions earlier

03:17:58.479 --> 03:18:00.856
around the impacts on on our coasts. We

03:18:00.880 --> 03:18:03.016
don't know exactly what the um state of

03:18:03.040 --> 03:18:05.656
our coast will look like in 2047. I'm

03:18:05.680 --> 03:18:08.680
wondering what exposure or risk we have

03:18:09.040 --> 03:18:12.040
um along the coast if we have a contract

03:18:13.120 --> 03:18:15.096
that you know a lease that extends that

03:18:15.120 --> 03:18:18.120
far. Are we liable for, you know, if the

03:18:19.120 --> 03:18:21.736
lease is unable to be fulfilled due to

03:18:21.760 --> 03:18:24.375
flooding or saltwater intrusion or storm

03:18:24.399 --> 03:18:27.399
surges or some other unforeseen um you

03:18:27.840 --> 03:18:30.840
know  change in the environment

03:18:34.800 --> 03:18:36.936
through you may and thank you councelor

03:18:36.960 --> 03:18:39.176
Halliday for that question. Um, in

03:18:39.200 --> 03:18:42.200
relation to um the the climate um

03:18:43.600 --> 03:18:46.215
changes that that we experience, we are

03:18:46.239 --> 03:18:48.056
increasingly looking at what those risks

03:18:48.080 --> 03:18:50.616
and actions um could be around our

03:18:50.640 --> 03:18:52.215
assets. And in this case, we're talking

03:18:52.239 --> 03:18:54.856
about a building asset um that that

03:18:54.880 --> 03:18:57.576
needs renewal under its current lease.

03:18:57.600 --> 03:19:00.600
And um what we would propose to mitigate

03:19:01.359 --> 03:19:04.359
this in a future lease is a a force

03:19:04.960 --> 03:19:07.960
measure clause which would um reduce

03:19:08.720 --> 03:19:10.776
liability or eliminate liability on

03:19:10.800 --> 03:19:13.800
either party if an event um of such a

03:19:14.000 --> 03:19:17.000
nature was to to impact the asset. Um,

03:19:18.479 --> 03:19:19.896
essentially what that means is that

03:19:19.920 --> 03:19:22.056
either party could walk away from their

03:19:22.080 --> 03:19:25.080
obligations under the lease if a um a

03:19:26.239 --> 03:19:29.239
severe event such as um sea level rising

03:19:29.680 --> 03:19:31.255
causing flooding was to occur and

03:19:31.279 --> 03:19:34.279
prevent um continued obligations under

03:19:34.479 --> 03:19:37.479
the lease um from from um being

03:19:38.080 --> 03:19:40.536
fulfilled. What we'd also be looking to

03:19:40.560 --> 03:19:42.696
incorporate as part of that clause are

03:19:42.720 --> 03:19:45.720
climate change event definitions. Um, so

03:19:46.239 --> 03:19:48.375
specifically,  we'd be listing

03:19:48.399 --> 03:19:51.096
occurrences such as flooding from sea

03:19:51.120 --> 03:19:54.120
level rise, extreme heat stress, or

03:19:54.319 --> 03:19:56.856
supply chain,  disruptions that can

03:19:56.880 --> 03:19:59.576
be caused by environmental degradation

03:19:59.600 --> 03:20:02.600
such as what you're referring to.

03:20:03.279 --> 03:20:06.279
Any further questions for officers?

03:20:08.000 --> 03:20:09.335
Councelor, hello.

03:20:09.359 --> 03:20:11.415
Given that we have other other um leased

03:20:11.439 --> 03:20:14.295
assets along the um along the foreshore,

03:20:14.319 --> 03:20:16.215
do we envisage incorporating those same

03:20:16.239 --> 03:20:18.215
sorts of provisions into the leases for

03:20:18.239 --> 03:20:19.335
those assets?

03:20:19.359 --> 03:20:21.656
Yes, we do.

03:20:21.680 --> 03:20:23.576
Any further questions for council

03:20:23.600 --> 03:20:26.375
officers to this item?

03:20:26.399 --> 03:20:27.656
Was that another question?

03:20:27.680 --> 03:20:30.680
Sure. um in in consideration for this

03:20:31.120 --> 03:20:34.120
lease extension, did we consider the the

03:20:34.160 --> 03:20:36.936
climate risks of this particular site

03:20:36.960 --> 03:20:39.960
and did we review those and assess them?

03:20:40.239 --> 03:20:42.295
Yes, under our asset plans, we're

03:20:42.319 --> 03:20:44.455
increasingly reviewing what those risks

03:20:44.479 --> 03:20:47.479
are and um for for all of our sites um

03:20:48.239 --> 03:20:50.455
we are continuously doing that. So as

03:20:50.479 --> 03:20:53.479
part of this proposal that was discussed

03:20:54.160 --> 03:20:57.160
further questions for this item

03:20:58.399 --> 03:20:59.656
councelor Heler.

03:20:59.680 --> 03:21:01.496
Sure. No one else is asking questions so

03:21:01.520 --> 03:21:04.056
I'll keep going. Um

03:21:04.080 --> 03:21:06.375
there's reference in the plans to the to

03:21:06.399 --> 03:21:09.255
the red line  and extending the red

03:21:09.279 --> 03:21:11.976
line of the leased area. Does this

03:21:12.000 --> 03:21:15.000
proposal expand the footprint of

03:21:15.279 --> 03:21:17.816
Donovans on the foreshore

03:21:17.840 --> 03:21:20.840
beyond its existing lease area?

03:21:21.520 --> 03:21:23.816
 yes, through you may it does slightly

03:21:23.840 --> 03:21:26.616
increase um out to the side the lease

03:21:26.640 --> 03:21:29.640
area.

03:21:29.840 --> 03:21:32.056
Any further questions?

03:21:32.080 --> 03:21:35.080
Councelor Tamman,

03:21:36.479 --> 03:21:38.936
do they do they need a planning permit

03:21:38.960 --> 03:21:40.696
for to do the thing? And has the

03:21:40.720 --> 03:21:42.936
planning permit been issued already?

03:21:42.960 --> 03:21:44.856
 yes, the planning permit has been

03:21:44.880 --> 03:21:47.415
applied for and granted and works did

03:21:47.439 --> 03:21:50.439
actually commence last week on site.

03:21:51.200 --> 03:21:54.200
Any further questions?

03:21:55.279 --> 03:21:58.279
Oh, sorry, Deputy Mayor May.

03:21:59.600 --> 03:22:02.600
 thank you, Mayor Min. Um as it has

03:22:03.200 --> 03:22:04.936
been said,

03:22:04.960 --> 03:22:07.016
you should always take caution with

03:22:07.040 --> 03:22:08.936
making predictions, especially about the

03:22:08.960 --> 03:22:11.960
future. However, I understand that or is

03:22:12.960 --> 03:22:15.960
it typical for a lease term such as

03:22:16.080 --> 03:22:19.080
suggested here  this is not out of the

03:22:19.279 --> 03:22:21.176
ordinary for a business such as

03:22:21.200 --> 03:22:23.496
Donovan's no matter where they are,

03:22:23.520 --> 03:22:26.520
waterfront or other ways   expect or

03:22:27.200 --> 03:22:29.496
anticipate this sort of term. It's not

03:22:29.520 --> 03:22:31.415
out of the ordinary.

03:22:31.439 --> 03:22:33.496
 through you, Mayor. Yes, that is

03:22:33.520 --> 03:22:35.656
correct. It's not out of the ordinary

03:22:35.680 --> 03:22:37.576
and our policy certainly makes

03:22:37.600 --> 03:22:40.600
provisions for us to um grant up to a

03:22:41.200 --> 03:22:43.816
21-year term like this, particularly

03:22:43.840 --> 03:22:46.840
where there is capital investment and an

03:22:47.040 --> 03:22:49.656
opportunity to amatize is required over

03:22:49.680 --> 03:22:52.680
the the duration of the lease.

03:22:54.720 --> 03:22:56.936
through you ma'am. I just add

03:22:56.960 --> 03:22:59.896
um there are some there are some

03:22:59.920 --> 03:23:01.896
differences because of the the nature of

03:23:01.920 --> 03:23:04.616
the location that it's forshore location

03:23:04.640 --> 03:23:07.640
on crown land means there's um

03:23:08.399 --> 03:23:11.399
additional requirements and  leasing

03:23:12.160 --> 03:23:14.136
conditions what you'd normally see under

03:23:14.160 --> 03:23:16.056
a retail lease for instance which is

03:23:16.080 --> 03:23:18.776
what a um a restaurant like this might

03:23:18.800 --> 03:23:21.335
normally operate under. um they've

03:23:21.359 --> 03:23:23.656
sought the 21 years there to get it

03:23:23.680 --> 03:23:25.496
they've had to demonstrate a significant

03:23:25.520 --> 03:23:27.415
capital contribution.

03:23:27.439 --> 03:23:30.439
Um under a retail lease it might be a 5

03:23:30.479 --> 03:23:33.479
plus 5 plus 5 or um so in a in a

03:23:34.720 --> 03:23:37.656
non-cancouncil governmentowned location

03:23:37.680 --> 03:23:39.016
like this they might be a little bit

03:23:39.040 --> 03:23:42.040
different um but the  the lease suits

03:23:44.160 --> 03:23:45.976
the legislation that governs these

03:23:46.000 --> 03:23:49.000
areas.

03:23:49.680 --> 03:23:51.976
Councelor Tamman,

03:23:52.000 --> 03:23:53.335
can I maybe make a point of

03:23:53.359 --> 03:23:55.816
clarification and say that the seabbash

03:23:55.840 --> 03:23:57.415
just got another 30 or 40 years

03:23:57.439 --> 03:23:58.856
extension on their lease through the

03:23:58.880 --> 03:24:01.335
state government. So obviously this is

03:24:01.359 --> 03:24:01.816
not

03:24:01.840 --> 03:24:02.776
that's a question.

03:24:02.800 --> 03:24:04.375
No, I'm just saying you know it is not

03:24:04.399 --> 03:24:06.455
unusual because the state because the

03:24:06.479 --> 03:24:08.856
seab just got a huge extension on their

03:24:08.880 --> 03:24:09.656
lease

03:24:09.680 --> 03:24:12.680
through you may not unusual in terms of

03:24:13.200 --> 03:24:16.200
um a lease on crown land for this type

03:24:16.800 --> 03:24:19.096
of business. Um we've got a number of

03:24:19.120 --> 03:24:21.896
them in the sea of Port Phillip  along

03:24:21.920 --> 03:24:24.536
the foreshore for around the 21 years 15

03:24:24.560 --> 03:24:27.560
21 I think  the stoke house was 30 or

03:24:28.239 --> 03:24:31.239
35 um but in responding to council

03:24:32.319 --> 03:24:34.215
deputy Mayor M's question he asked about

03:24:34.239 --> 03:24:36.776
it not only on on the foreshore and

03:24:36.800 --> 03:24:38.295
local government area but also more

03:24:38.319 --> 03:24:40.776
broadly more broadly the leases would be

03:24:40.800 --> 03:24:41.976
a little bit different but you could

03:24:42.000 --> 03:24:43.896
still have a long-term lease but it'

03:24:43.920 --> 03:24:46.920
usually be under a retail lease. Any

03:24:48.160 --> 03:24:51.160
further questions?

03:24:52.720 --> 03:24:55.720
No further.  move councelor Thomann

03:24:56.800 --> 03:24:59.800
seconded by councelor Hardy.

03:25:00.640 --> 03:25:03.640
Does the mover wish to speak?

03:25:04.479 --> 03:25:07.479
 well in my previous term  we did a

03:25:09.439 --> 03:25:12.439
private treaty with Donovans and um

03:25:12.800 --> 03:25:15.335
because they were a good operator 

03:25:15.359 --> 03:25:17.496
successful you know they give Sinilda

03:25:17.520 --> 03:25:20.520
and the foreshore a good name um

03:25:20.560 --> 03:25:22.616
unfortunately

03:25:22.640 --> 03:25:25.415
Mr. Donovan is no longer with us.  but

03:25:25.439 --> 03:25:28.056
u his manager at the time has carried

03:25:28.080 --> 03:25:31.080
the the flame and it is still a very

03:25:31.279 --> 03:25:33.496
successful restaurant and what they want

03:25:33.520 --> 03:25:36.295
to do is providing  private dining

03:25:36.319 --> 03:25:38.295
room that actually we don't actually

03:25:38.319 --> 03:25:41.319
have in St Kilda to have something. So I

03:25:41.760 --> 03:25:44.455
think it's for the attraction

03:25:44.479 --> 03:25:47.479
 to um to St Kilda and the city of

03:25:47.840 --> 03:25:50.215
Port Phillip. it's for them to be

03:25:50.239 --> 03:25:53.176
spending nearly $2 million to provide

03:25:53.200 --> 03:25:55.496
something that we actually haven't got

03:25:55.520 --> 03:25:57.335
and that will be a great asset to the

03:25:57.359 --> 03:25:59.976
city and obviously eventually  we will

03:26:00.000 --> 03:26:02.455
take over that asset in you know it will

03:26:02.479 --> 03:26:05.176
take a few years but  it will take so

03:26:05.200 --> 03:26:07.415
I think it's a great um you know a great

03:26:07.439 --> 03:26:10.439
initiative I think originally

03:26:10.960 --> 03:26:13.016
 the plan was to have a fish and chips

03:26:13.040 --> 03:26:16.040
a little fish and chips next to it um as

03:26:16.319 --> 03:26:19.319
part of their investment that $1.3

03:26:20.319 --> 03:26:21.896
um million dollars that they had to to

03:26:21.920 --> 03:26:24.920
invest in the previous lease that was um

03:26:25.040 --> 03:26:28.040
aborted in 2000 in 2010. Mr. Carol, you

03:26:28.479 --> 03:26:30.375
remember saying you were there at the

03:26:30.399 --> 03:26:32.616
time? Um

03:26:32.640 --> 03:26:35.640
so a lot of lot of water has gone over

03:26:35.840 --> 03:26:38.840
under the bridge. But  but I think you

03:26:39.120 --> 03:26:40.856
know as I said I think it's a great it's

03:26:40.880 --> 03:26:43.415
it's great that a business a successful

03:26:43.439 --> 03:26:45.496
business is prepared to spend all that

03:26:45.520 --> 03:26:48.520
money to improve um a facility that is

03:26:48.560 --> 03:26:51.335
owned by council and again something

03:26:51.359 --> 03:26:53.255
that actually doesn't exist in the city.

03:26:53.279 --> 03:26:56.279
So um I support  the recommendation.

03:26:57.200 --> 03:26:59.576
The mover has spoken. Does the second

03:26:59.600 --> 03:27:01.896
council Hardy wish to speak?

03:27:01.920 --> 03:27:04.375
Yes. U we talk about culture supporting

03:27:04.399 --> 03:27:06.295
diversity and the arts. Well,

03:27:06.319 --> 03:27:09.255
restaurants in this city of Port Phillip

03:27:09.279 --> 03:27:11.656
are a great draw card for people outside

03:27:11.680 --> 03:27:13.896
the area and also inside the area. And

03:27:13.920 --> 03:27:15.736
the diversity of our restaurants is

03:27:15.760 --> 03:27:18.760
immense. I know that  Donovan's in

03:27:18.880 --> 03:27:20.455
Middle Park, not Donovan, sorry, the

03:27:20.479 --> 03:27:22.295
European in Middle Park attracts a lot

03:27:22.319 --> 03:27:23.656
of local people where we can get

03:27:23.680 --> 03:27:26.056
together, have a few wines, have a meal,

03:27:26.080 --> 03:27:29.080
etc. Although there might be only a

03:27:29.120 --> 03:27:30.616
certain part of our population that

03:27:30.640 --> 03:27:33.016
could afford to dine at Donovan's, but

03:27:33.040 --> 03:27:35.176
Donovans is there for us as well. So, I

03:27:35.200 --> 03:27:37.176
fully support this long lease and

03:27:37.200 --> 03:27:39.415
hopefully we can  support Donovan's

03:27:39.439 --> 03:27:41.576
and other restaurants like it as well as

03:27:41.600 --> 03:27:43.816
the restaurant that I was lucky enough

03:27:43.840 --> 03:27:45.976
to dine in with a few of my council of

03:27:46.000 --> 03:27:47.736
colleagues which was noisy. We were

03:27:47.760 --> 03:27:49.896
squashed near the corners but the food

03:27:49.920 --> 03:27:52.776
was great. Um and I really really really

03:27:52.800 --> 03:27:54.776
want to support these restaurants. Thank

03:27:54.800 --> 03:27:56.856
you.

03:27:56.880 --> 03:27:59.880
Any other counselors wish to speak?

03:28:00.960 --> 03:28:03.960
In which case does the move go sorry

03:28:04.800 --> 03:28:07.800
councelor Halliday

03:28:11.040 --> 03:28:14.040
um I'm happy to support restaurants 

03:28:15.040 --> 03:28:17.576
but in this particular case what I don't

03:28:17.600 --> 03:28:20.600
support is the further encroachment of

03:28:21.200 --> 03:28:24.200
commercial interests onto public land.

03:28:25.359 --> 03:28:28.359
um this continual erosion of the public

03:28:28.880 --> 03:28:31.255
realm through enclosure through these

03:28:31.279 --> 03:28:34.279
longer leases. You know we see this on

03:28:34.399 --> 03:28:37.399
you know on um on the marina plans where

03:28:37.600 --> 03:28:39.976
you know the the public might get access

03:28:40.000 --> 03:28:42.856
to a scar of the foreshore along there

03:28:42.880 --> 03:28:45.880
you know maybe um so I fundamentally um

03:28:48.560 --> 03:28:51.560
have concerns about um again erosion of

03:28:51.680 --> 03:28:53.335
public space. We see this everywhere. We

03:28:53.359 --> 03:28:55.656
have limited public space here. We our

03:28:55.680 --> 03:28:58.136
foreshore is an area that um you know

03:28:58.160 --> 03:29:01.160
we've constantly degraded um and 

03:29:01.680 --> 03:29:03.496
we'll be increasingly under threat and

03:29:03.520 --> 03:29:05.656
we expose ourselves to more risks um the

03:29:05.680 --> 03:29:07.656
more the more infrastructure we put on

03:29:07.680 --> 03:29:10.536
it and we should be in in my opinion in

03:29:10.560 --> 03:29:13.176
a mode of us derisking the foreshore

03:29:13.200 --> 03:29:16.200
rather than reinforcing um our  our

03:29:17.040 --> 03:29:18.936
potential risks there into the future.

03:29:18.960 --> 03:29:21.576
So I won't be supporting this.

03:29:21.600 --> 03:29:23.335
Thank you, Councelor Halliday.

03:29:23.359 --> 03:29:25.176
Councelor Jay,

03:29:25.200 --> 03:29:26.936
Councelor Halliday has encouraged me

03:29:26.960 --> 03:29:29.016
to speak.

03:29:29.040 --> 03:29:31.176
Um,

03:29:31.200 --> 03:29:34.056
in the current economic climate for any

03:29:34.080 --> 03:29:36.215
business to have the confidence to sign

03:29:36.239 --> 03:29:39.239
a 21-year lease is a miracle. And I

03:29:40.560 --> 03:29:42.776
would love more of these leases in our

03:29:42.800 --> 03:29:45.335
community buildings. It means we have um

03:29:45.359 --> 03:29:48.359
long long-term tenurs. um we have great

03:29:48.960 --> 03:29:51.960
relationships and we have  successful

03:29:52.000 --> 03:29:53.896
organizations that can actually afford

03:29:53.920 --> 03:29:56.920
to fix these buildings. So I will

03:29:56.960 --> 03:29:59.960
absolutely support this tonight. Um um

03:30:01.520 --> 03:30:03.096
although it is not somewhere where

03:30:03.120 --> 03:30:05.736
everyone dies, it is a destination place

03:30:05.760 --> 03:30:08.760
and it does bring all sorts of diverse

03:30:08.800 --> 03:30:11.800
people to our  foreshore and maybe

03:30:11.920 --> 03:30:14.295
even someone that can afford to buy a

03:30:14.319 --> 03:30:17.319
marina or rent a marina. So I will

03:30:17.840 --> 03:30:20.136
support this.

03:30:20.160 --> 03:30:21.816
Thank you councelor Jay. Any other

03:30:21.840 --> 03:30:24.840
counselors wish to speak?

03:30:27.120 --> 03:30:29.415
I am not seeing any further indication

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of speakers. In which case does the

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mover wish to close?

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I just would like to respond to council

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holiday. The little space that's taken

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is that space between Donovan's and the

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life-saving club. You know, it's not

03:30:43.279 --> 03:30:45.096
really,

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you know, it's not even grass. It's

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concrete. It's the, you know, where the

03:30:49.680 --> 03:30:51.656
rubbish bins are. You know, the the bins

03:30:51.680 --> 03:30:52.936
are there and stuff. So, I actually

03:30:52.960 --> 03:30:55.016
think, you know, I'm I agree with you.

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we shouldn't be taking over  public

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land but this public land is not quite

03:31:01.040 --> 03:31:02.856
 you know it's not really something

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that valuable so um you know let's you

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know as I said let's support a business

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that is prepared to take a big risk for

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the next 21 years whatever and  and

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provide something that we actually

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haven't got in the city of Port Philip

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so maybe one day we can have a kind of a

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my 70th birthday day or something but

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 the motion has been closed and we

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will put the motion. All those in favor

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that is councelor Thomann, councelor Jay,

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Councelor Buckingham, Councelor

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Crawford, Councelor Consol, Deputy Mayor

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Mes, and myself, Mayor Min. All those

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against councelor Halliday. The

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motion is carried 81.

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And that takes us now to item 14. There

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are no notices of motion tonight. Item

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15, reports by councelor delegates. Any

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councilors wish to share their delegate

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report? Thank you, councelor Buckingham.

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Thank you, Mayor Min. I'd like to give a

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report um from the recent MAV

03:32:09.920 --> 03:32:12.920
assembly that occurred  last Friday.

03:32:13.359 --> 03:32:16.136
 City of Port Phillip worked on seven

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motions ranging from issues to do with

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housing, transport, our coastline, and

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um recognizing our frontline workers and

03:32:24.960 --> 03:32:26.056
giving them frontline worker

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protections. Um, and I moved a rec a um

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motion around strengthening social

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cohesion um including  combating

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anti-semitism and all forms of religious

03:32:39.359 --> 03:32:42.359
intolerance. Um all of our motions were

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supported with hefty majorities which

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was wonderful to see. Um and

03:32:50.319 --> 03:32:51.656
particularly around the strengthening

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social cohesion

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 motion people stood up  council

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stood up from all around the state from

03:32:59.840 --> 03:33:02.840
Mary Beck to Hopson's Bay um to you know

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 the city of Melbourne the Lord Mayor

03:33:05.200 --> 03:33:06.856
stood up and spoke in support of that

03:33:06.880 --> 03:33:08.936
motion. So, it was it's quite a moment

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at MAV to hear so many um councils

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speaking in support um of what we're

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working towards here at um City of Port

03:33:18.399 --> 03:33:20.936
Phillip, but also across the state in

03:33:20.960 --> 03:33:23.960
the service of of making um all people

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safer and more included in their

03:33:27.120 --> 03:33:30.120
communities.  84 motions were

03:33:30.800 --> 03:33:33.096
considered in total. um all of them

03:33:33.120 --> 03:33:36.120
passed except one and the um the

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opportunity to meet with other councils,

03:33:39.359 --> 03:33:41.896
hear what's going on locally around the

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state was fantastic and I believe that

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we really furthered a lot of our

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advocacy priorities on the day

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and thank you councelor Buckingham for

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being our representative at the MAV as

03:33:52.800 --> 03:33:54.776
well and such fantastic results. Well

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done. Any other councilors wish to share

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anything as a delegates report?

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It's a great note to leave the delegates

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report on. Well done once again. In

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which case, item 16 is urgent business.

03:34:10.399 --> 03:34:12.295
I believe there are no items of urgent

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business this evening. You can correct

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me if that's not correct.

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That then moves us to a confidential

03:34:20.399 --> 03:34:22.856
matter that we need to consider, which

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is the Silda Marina evaluation plan. So,

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I'd like to move that council resolves

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to move into confidential

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um yeah closed door confidential to deal

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with the following matters pursuant to

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section 66 the soda marina evaluation

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plan. I'll put that or move that

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seconded councelor Halliday.

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I'm not speaking to that motion. 

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anyone let's just do a show of hands.

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That is carried unanimously. We will

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move in camera confidential.  to our

03:34:56.000 --> 03:34:57.896
members of the public,  those of you

03:34:57.920 --> 03:34:59.736
here in the gallery, well done for

03:34:59.760 --> 03:35:01.176
always staying the distance. And for

03:35:01.200 --> 03:35:02.776
those of you online, well done as well.

03:35:02.800 --> 03:35:04.776
Staying the distance, too. We shall see

03:35:04.800 --> 03:35:07.496
you in two weeks time. The public

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component of this meeting is closed.